Morbid - Episode 25: Urban Legends

Episode Date: November 3, 2018

We didn't get baby-faced Jared Leto in for this one but we still managed to trudge through some of the spookiest and truest urban legends out there. We cover everything from Bloody Mary to the Carnival Corpse.  Also, I know it was by REM and not Dave Matthews Band. Trust me, you'll get it. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That's ANGI, or download the app today. Hey, weirdos, I'm Ash, and I'm Elena. And this is Morvid, Halloween edition. Halloween! Halloweenies. Sam Hayes. I know I wanted to say I'm Sam and I'm mean, but then I didn't understand that. And it was actually a great exchange that I had recorded because I said the whole thing, like, yeah, this is a great idea.

And that just goes, I don't get it. I was like, I don't understand. And it's actually even funnier because we're recording from two separate places tonight for the first time ever. I know this is new and exciting and scary. It's exciting and scary and it feels really weird, but I feel like so independent. I know it's weird.

Like I hit the record button and then I get to end it and then I have to save this whole file. It's true, you have a lot of responsibility on your work. I do. It took me almost an hour to figure out how to set this up. Now, let's just see how long it takes for me to figure out how to save the stamp file. I'm really proud of you though. Thank you.

You got this far. I mean, we're going. Now let's just hope we get to the end of it and you're not like, oh, it wasn't recorded. No, I'm actually watching it record because I was like freaking out. Also, apologize for my voice that you have to listen to for the next like hour. Your voice doesn't sound that bad though.

It doesn't because I feel like it sounds like super raspy. No, it doesn't. I hope it's not annoying to listen to. No, you honestly don't sound sick. So like, maybe you're just lying. Shut up. Well, like, I just, I posted last night to let everybody know why we're a little little behind on our episode this week. And why no bonus episode came out is because a plague was cast upon our houses. Yeah, all of us are so sick. Yeah. Annie's sick now she just got it. Oh no. John already had it.

The kids already had it. Everybody has it. So we're back though. We need to get on up. Should we dive into some Patreons? Yes, let's say thank you to some wonderful Patreons. So we have a custom Patreon this week. Her name is Amy Hall.

Hey Amy. Thanks Amy. And actually that's a surprise gift from her fiance Thomas. I am swooning. I know. I thought that was so sweet. He wrote us an email and just wanted to surprise her and like make her a Patreon. And they're from Johannesburg, South Africa, which I was like, it's not so cool. It's not so cool. It's not so cool. So, I know. Thank you so much, Amy, and thank you so much, Thomas. That was so cool. Thank you guys both.

That was so nice. And like, I just love that couple's even with the door. I know. I love it. We're just spreading love everywhere. Yeah, we really are. All over the globe.

Seriously. Diving into window-latching cousin, we have three window-latching coveners this week. So the coven's getting extra big. We got a big powerful cousin. We really do. We have another Madonna. Oh, another Madonna. I love it. And her name is not Madonna. It's just

Caitlin. Caitlin. So hot right now. And she spells it like our little niece cousin spells it. Sorry. Because it's her niece in my cousin. And I think our niece's mother listens to this. So hey Kim. Hey Kim. And thank you so much, Caitlin.

Yes, thank you, Caitlin. Our next one, also in the window watching, Kevin is Sherry V Nixon. Hey, Sherry V Nick, that's a really cool name. That is a wicked cool name. I wonder if she's a descendant of President Nixon. Who knows? I'm just like that she's got the V in the middle. That makes it very official. Very cool. I'm going to start going by Ashley and Kelly.

I like it. Thank you. Well, thank you Sherry. Our next juni tour is Jarsiekhar, and she's in the window Lachin Kavan. I've never heard of her before. Are you Jim? Yeah. Just kidding.

It's my mom. My mom is very familiar. Thanks, mom. That's Aasha's mom and my sister. So thanks, Dazs. Thank you. Thank you. Our next category is an even onion, excuse me, evil onion. And we only have one lonely evil onion this week.

Welcome, evil onion. So let's cheer her up. She's Haley Brady. Thanks, Haley. Thank you. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought it would survive it. I thought we were going to survive it. I thought we were going to survive it. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The only survivor. The onlyged little bitch, so thank you so much. Thank you so much, girl, and welcome to the jagged little bitches. Yes, welcome to that, Kevin. That's amazing. We appreciate that.

They're all comments. And then our last picture on this week, also in the jagged little bitch category, is Jamie Mathis. Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, Jamie. I love you. I love you too. I work with a woman named Jamie and I always call her Jammy and she gets really mad at me.

Because she calls me Aush and I'm like, what's up Jam? You're very much an A. Oh yeah, so Aush. You're very A. So Posh. I was just about to say that. I know the same wavelength. We may be not in the same pod say that. I know the same wavelength. We may be not in the same pod lab,

but we are in the same wavelength. We are of the same mind. We are kindred souls. We are. So yeah, so thank you so much to all our new patrons. Thank you. Good things are coming. I promise.

In fact, some of our listeners have been helping me out with contacting places to get different little goodies to send to the Patreon. So thank you to all our listeners for being awesome and helping me figure this shit out. Yep. We have awesome listeners. We really do.

And actually, there is a couple of emails that we've gotten recently that will definitely be reading on the next episode because we've got some really interesting emails and I want to read some of them. So I just want to email them and make sure they don't mind that we read them on the air. But so the next episode we're definitely going to do some reader emails because we've been getting a few of them that are amazing. Ooh, I'm excited Because when I got a new phone, I logged out of our email and I forgot to log back into it, so I should probably do that soon. Yeah, so you've just been out of the loop.

I'm in very out of the loop. Also, I'm just going to go ahead and say it. In my headphones, I don't know where it's coming from, but like, there's this weird sound and it's not going away. And it sounds like very extra-terrestrial and I'm afraid. I kind of love that. I feel like I'm like entering another dimension. I feel like it's just it should be there. I don't want it to be anymore.

It's actually kind of like upsetting. Well, I feel like it's like a good environment tab since we're going to be talking about urban legends. Urban legends. Me too. Also a great movie. I don't know if that counts. Do you know who I feel like right now though actually and this totally fits in. Wow, actually credit to me for thinking of this. Whoa. Oh, fuck what's her name. Hold on. Who's the blonde in urban legend? Oh, Tara. Oh, Tara I feel like Tara read because my

ears like a little bit funky and I have like these big like recording headphones on. Yeah. What's her name Sasha? Yeah, she has her own radio show. She does. She has a great radio show in that movie. That's a great movie. Such a good movie. We're definitely watching one that for a bonus episode. Yeah, hell yeah. At the end of this episode, everybody turn it off when you're finished and go turn on that movie. I don't care where you are. Because you're going to be in the mood. Yeah, because we're talking about ULs today. ULs. Urban. Elegions. Urban. Elegions tonight. Lurban. Urban Eurgens. Do you want to hear a fun story actually?

Because for once it wasn't me that said something dumb. Yes. I don't know who it was because the story was reiterated to me after the fact. But I was sitting in the breaker network today in between my shift and the client that I had coming in. And they were talking about how whitey bulger died. And they were saying that somebody said, oh, Whitey Bulger's wife Whitney died. And like somebody I, somebody I worked with said that. I was like, it was something like that.

And I was like, wow, that sounds like something Elena would say that I said. And I was like, I didn't, I like, I wouldn't actually. I can actually send it. Yeah, exactly. Wow. Whitney Bolder died. That's really sad. I know.

It's so like Whitey and Whitney, RIP. RIP Whitney. You know Whitey Bolder's like rolling over in his grave, like cursing us right now. Well, you know what, dude? Like he's lucky he lasted as long as he did to be quiet on this. Didn't he like kill one of his wives or something?

Yeah, he strangled a lady. Yeah, that's messed up. He's done a lot of bad shit. Yeah, but Boston, especially coming from Boston, we know that Boston was, like, especially Southie was very split. Yeah. Like, I'm pretty sure he asked my dad

and he's like, he got that drugs out of Southie. Like, he's old. He's fine. Like, dad wanted him let free. Like they were like, let's just let him live his life. He's 80. I was like dad. He's whitey-pulcher.

Yeah, like me, maybe not. Maybe not. I feel like he's not just a harmless 80 year old. He's whitey-pulcher. Yeah, exactly. There's movies about him. What's not? Right.

But yeah, so he's dead. Don't RIP. No, definitely not. You're late to go. Yeah. So yeah, I think that's the last like true crime, weird ass update. And they may just jump into this shit. Let's do it.

So do you want to start with your ULs? Yeah, I'll start with mine. Sorry, if you can hear paper rustling, if you can't edit it out somehow. Sorry to the listeners. Because I went old school this week. I did more than the basicest amount of research. And I wrote down my notes in a notebook. That's impressive. And then tear the pages out. So here we go. Erwin Legend number one. Dead Guy in a Carnival was my first one.

I love this one. So, because this seems like it's not true. This story is actually wild. So in 1976, the TV show, the $6 million man was preparing to film at Pike Amusement Park in Long Beach, California. So they had planned on capturing Steve Austin riding a ride or like riding alongside in a car by a ride and the ride was called Laugh in the Dark. So it had a tunnel where like the are you afraid of the dark episode laughing in the dark? Oh yeah!

Little clowns. Yeah yeah yeah. That episode is creepy as fuck. Oh yeah! Little bit clowns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That episode is creepy as fuck. I'm actually like, I remember that, but I think I was too young for our group. I think you work. But I liked your enthusiasm with pretending that you remembered that. Thank you, I really tried.

All right, a lot of our listeners will know what I'm talking. I'm like, yeah, I loved that episode. Oh my God, that was the best episode. It really was. It was so, it was called Laughing in the Dark. And it was about a carnal, like a haunted house carnival ride. Yeah. This fucking kid steals a clown's nose

and the clown goes and haunts him and takes his nose back. It's really scary. Well that will teach you a lesson to not steal things. But funny Laughing in the Dark. Yeah. Okay, so the ride was laughing in the dark. And so during the ride, like things would just like pop out at you, like, uh, you know, demons,

ghouls, etc. It is burped in the middle of saying that. I like, um, you know, you know, sooo your car also, like, the car that you were in it. So I guess it was like kind of like a roller coaster sort of deal. Um, it would like jump and like jolt side to side. Okay. So like those like old school, like kind of like mind shaft rides,

probably exactly. Right. So like you're jumping around and things are jumping at you and there's just a lot of jumping. So what? And the club is jumping. Jumping. Ladies leave your clowns at home.

Anyways, leave your dead bodies at home. Yeah, always leave your dead bodies at home or don't have deads at home. Anyways, leave your dead bodies at home. Yeah, always leave your dead bodies at home or don't have dead bodies at home. Bye. While they were getting ready for filming, one employee noticed Mannequin hanging from a niece in the corner. So he went to pull it down because he was like,

why is there a mannequin over there? Like, where about to film? And when he pulled it down, he reached for the hand and like the arm broke off the mannequins like entire arm and he like kind of looked down and was like wow what a flimsy ass mannequin. And when he looked down he noticed that there was like bone in the middle of like a bunch of layers of skin. Oh and I don't see a problem yet. Oh, you don't? Because no.

The problem is that it was a fucking human arm and a human body hanging from the corner. It's not like, so people have just been going by this thing. Apparently. Like in their little mind shaft car being like, oh, spooky. Well, just going by. Yeah, it was really fucking spooky because it was real. Like in their little mind shaft car being like, oh spooky. Well, just going by. Yeah, it was really fucking spooky because it was real. So this was like a straight up corpse and,

cool, you know, casual. It belonged to a guy named Elmer McCurdy. I know it. Yeah, have you heard of him? Yeah, totally. Yeah, he's like really powerful. No, me either. So he was,

He was, Elmer's glue. No, different, no, no, no. So he was, He was Elmer's glue. No, different. He created this fucking urban legend. Oh, good, okay. He, yeah, you know, like really close. He was an outlaw who had died in a gun fight, not too long before this incident, only 65 years before this.

Oh, you know, So like a hot second before this incident, only 65 years before this. Oh, you know, so like a hot second before this incident occurred. A quick minute, you know? Yeah, like a blink of an eye. I literally wrote in my notes, what question mark, question mark, explanation point? In all capital letters, like I was like, what? So he'd been involved in a shootout with police 65 years earlier after robbing an Oklahoma train.

And just in case you were wondering what he robbed from the train, he got away with like a lot. He got away with two jugs of whiskey, which is exactly what I would steal. Wow. And 46 dollars. Whoa. Which back then was probably a lot of money because it was like 19. I Roller. Yeah, you know 46 dollars could buy you a lot in 19. Eleven. I don't know if it's enough to get in a shootout and die But and end up hanging from a fucking carnival for rock on Elmer 65 years

Did you say rock on Elmo Elmer? Oh, it sounded like you said Elmo. And I was like, no, I mean rock on Elmo too. Rock on everybody. Yeah, just rock on in your Elmo suit. Yeah, I'm sure there's an Elmo out there that wants to rock on right now. Definitely. Um, okay. So that's what he got away with. And he died during a shootout with police. So like the police were catching up to him and they were like bang bang and he was like bang bang and then he was like dead.

Nice. Yeah. I think that's like an exact playback. Yeah. Bang bang bang dead. Yeah. That's how it goes. So.

Not very exciting. No, it's just like really chill. Yeah. So they brought his body to a funeral home in Pahuska, which I love it. I love it. It's a little homeless. I love it. But as I'm not the researcher of the year, I don't know because I didn't look it up. Anyways, bye. So they brought his body there, but nobody ever claimed it.

Sad, kind of, you know. But yeah, I mean like, stop stealing shit. Yeah, exactly. He was an outlaw, so. Stop stealing shit. Yeah, you know, that's all life goes. So the undertaker who obviously was just like a normal guy saw this as a money making opportunity. I mean, who wouldn't?

Right, you know, I mean, that's what I would do. So do you want to hear what his scheme was? Yes, I do. To get some extra money, he decided that he was going to embalm the corpse and he would allow people to view it if they placed a nickel in the mouth of the corpse. So this guy was only making nickels. He was making nickels and having them put in the mouth of the corpse.

So it's like, how are you getting those back? He must just take them right out. I mean, he's an embalmer, so he's used to it. That's a lot to go through just to be theatricals fuck. Yeah, really is. So I wrote casual. Very casual. So five years into this scheme, how did it even go on that long?

I was just going to say five years, everybody was like, bad. It's like, if you go to this place, you can stick a nickel in a dead guy's mouth. It's like, if I had a nickel for every time, somebody said that. But this guy actually does have a nickel for every time, somebody did that.

And well, it's funny, because it's like people just walking up to this dead guy put a nickel in his mouth and then be like, yep, that's a dead guy. Yeah, like you don't walk in a way. You don't get anything out of it, right? You're just examining a dead guy. For, I mean, I guess it's only a nickel, so.

Yeah, mine as well. So anyways, five years into the scheme, a carnival worker showed up and claiming, or excuse me, a carnival worker showed up claiming he was a long-lost relative of mycurdies and he wanted to claim the body so he could finally be put to rest. So he could get all the nickels? No, the other takeer already took all the nickels.

Well, you never know, some could be left in there. Well, this guy... Clear them all out. This guy was actually not related to him and he was not... I'm shocked. Lying into rest. What's not what happened? I'm shocked. I'm interested. It's not what happened. I'm shocked.

He saw this as an opportunity to bring this dude to a carnival and just use him as a prop for years and years and years. I mean, there's only a couple paths in life. You know, like get the queen. Get the queen. You either claim a body and respect it or you claim a body and you put it in a carnival haunted house right as a prop. You only have to go out of the house to go. Yeah that's it. So it's like 50-50 shot.

Should I get buried, cremated or used at a carnival? Always pick used as a carnival prop. Which box should you check? Always the carnival prop. So they brought it back to the carnival where it made rounds through haunted houses, wax museums, etc. for 60 actual years. 60 actual years. Damn. So it's unclear how it ended up at this particular carnival where they were filming, but where they were filming, but after that whole incident where the man who was filming found it and like ripped its arm off by accident, or excuse me, his arm off by accident, they finally buried him. Well, that was nice of them.

Yeah, they were like, you know what? You've seen some shit. I think it's tough. Get the nickels out of that guy's mouth and you know, very improperly, okay? Shake the nickels out of his face, where he attaches his arms, and stick them in the ground.

You know, it'll all be okay. Just fine. Yeah, it's fine. R-I-P-L-M-R. Yeah, so that is the story of Elmer McCurdy. Yeah, who to thank it. And also the story of the dead guy at the carnival. You know that's the,

you know that casual ass story. That'll chestnut. It kind of reminded me of like a Scooby-Doo episode. 100%. Yeah, like it seems like it would be a Scooby-Doo episode. Yeah. So my next urban legend, are you ready? You're next to you, well.

My next urban legend, I'm ready. Is waking up at your own funeral. That's a nightmare. Fuck is what that is. Yeah, no, like no thank you. Because I have some very alive moments in mind and whoo, that freaks me out. Everything about that. I have two cases where it actually happened. So it's not a legend, it's real. Not a legend. Most of these have truth in them. Yeah, a lot of them have like some true-ass parts. Yeah, we tried to pick ones that have at least a little kernel of truth into them.

And it's a kind of the truth. Little kernels. So... Um, this name is really hard to say, and I hope that I don't say it wrong. I faith in you. So, Fajlou Muc-Hat, Mucomet Zionov. I think... Think that it's 100% correct. Ifov, I think. Think that is 100% correct.

If not, my apologies. She was 49 years old when she unfortunately really did die. However, she died after waking up at her own funeral. Wow. So I mean, shitty, but very convenient. Also, soups, soups, ironic. Very. Soups, just like soups. That's too much. So morning relatives, at least you can just close the casket and be like, well, I'm up she done now. So, so, so morning relatives and

friends were walking by, paying their respects to the body and we're likely stunned and horrified when Fijou, Fajouliwa, I'm really sorry. When she. Yeah. When she woke up screaming. Oh, casual. I'm just pictureing that. Like she literally, like you're just like walking by and then all of a sudden the body

sits upright and is screaming. A.K.A. the person, not even the body anymore. I don't even know how to react to that. I don't want that. No thanks. I would just be like, no, I'd be like, and I'd just leave. That would be it. I have to go wash my cat by.

I have to go take many showers. I've got to go and think many thoughts. I've got to go think many thoughts. I've got to go anywhere else but here. So literally anywhere else but here. I have to go breathe air into my lungs. I'm running late for something anywhere else but here. Bye. So her husband had, or excuse me,

her husband who had first been told that his wife died of a heart attack after she was brought to the hospital for collapsing at home in severe chest pain. Was told a second time that his wife truly was dead after having lived 12 minutes in the ICU. So she literally came back to life for 12 minutes and then died again? Mm-hmm. So they brought, so when she woke up screaming at the funeral, they brought her back to the hospital, clearly. And she lived for 12 minutes in the ICU and then was again pronounced dead. Did they bring her back to the same doctor that was like, yep, she's dead the first time? Unclear. Because I would be like, maybe get a second opinion on this. I'd be like I'm not having another funeral so yeah so see we're so we're just gonna go with this.

We're gonna go as she died first and just pay for the people's therapy bills. So that actually happened to somebody else too. Oh my god. Another man. No, it's so fucked up. Another man. Watson Franklin, Mendozano D'Rotio. I hope. I hope. He was of a Peruvian city, Tingo Maria,

and was inside his coffin at his open casket funeral when family members noticed his ribcage rising and falling. A.K.A. he was breathing. You know. You know, as one breath. Yes, as one breath.

But A.K.A. not when you're a corpse. Oh, this is like, this is what I think I see all the time in the morgue. Oh, fuck that. Like when you stare at someone too long enough, you can almost feel like you see a chest going up and down. So I feel like I would just think my mind was playing tricks on you. I think I would just walk away into the parking lot and drive anywhere else by this.

It's the abyss. That's my- You just walk away into the abyss. That's my theme for people waking up with their own funerals. Like I gotta go anywhere else. Bye. I just gotta leave.

I'm going anywhere else. The whole I gotta go anywhere else. Bye. I just gotta leave. I'm going anywhere else. The whole pile of nope. May. May. So Dorotio had been pronounced dead by his doctor after experience, or not, I mean, by a doctor, after experiencing fever and chills following a root canal.

Oh, ho. So he went in for a root canal. Okay, this could seem even worse. Oh, it does. Like, it gets bad. So, so back to the funeral. So that's how he what supposedly died the first time. So he died after a root canal? Well, he actually didn't, not really. What kind of? So we're done. So a doctor was immediately called to the funeral and confirmed that Duretio, that he was showing vital signs. So he was removed from the coffin and transferred to the hospital where he was again pronounced dead. I'd be like, but how do you know? I'd be like, I question life itself.

Like, where were these vital signs the first time? And then all of a sudden you see them, and now they're gone again. Yeah, like, are you using the right thing? I don't think so. Are you using a Fisher Price Stethoscope? Or are you using it? It sounds like it.

It sounds like it. It sounds like it. What the fuck? So his family felt that he may have been alive, like all along, and that he may have been alive like all along and that he was just sedated as a result of the drugs that he'd been given for the dental procedure. So hopefully his family never went to the same dentist as him is my take away. Yeah. Yeah. That's my take away. And hopefully that poor family never had to go to another

funeral ever again. Oh my God. Like I family never had to go to another funeral ever again. Oh my God. Like I would never wanna go to one ever again. I'd be like, you know what? I just wouldn't. I'd be like, so I have PTSD and I can't go. RSVP, no. Yeah, I have PTSD from this.

Oh my third and final urban legend is the best. I saved the best for last yeah okay so dead body in the swimming pool oh fuck that repeat I am not a swimmer so this is just gonna keep me farther away I was like aka the reason why I'm all set with public pools exactly no thanks so this actually happened in Fall River, which is not too far. Fall River Massachusetts. For my neck of the woods. So yeah, there's like a few things I don't want to find in a pool and dead body is like at the top of the list. Yeah, like I'd say like right up there with poop. I was just gonna say that. That was my next joke. Yeah, but I'm shh. Right up there with poop. So unfortunately,

some follower of her kids were not so lucky. And so they stuck into the public pool, just like have like a late night swimmer, whatever, like, you know, kids do super chit. Night swimming, which you never are gonna want to do again. So they are approaching the pool getting ready to dive in. I'm a better diving. That's a song. I was like I don't even know that one. Yeah I think it's tracings. I think mine was Dave Matthews band. Why what did you say? Night swimming. Oh what? I didn't even realize that was Dave Matthews.

Yeah, it's a Dave Matthews song. I don't know. I thought that you were just like talking. I'm just making up beats over here. Yeah. Yeah. You know me. So it turns out that that was the body of a woman named Marie Joseph.

Oh, man, Marie. So Marie had been rotting in the pool for almost three days. Huh! In the public pool for almost three days, just below the surface, where people had been like unknowingly Marco Poloing the shit out of their lives. Oh, yeah. So people were swimming in the pool that she was founded.

They were swimming in a pool of putref founded. They were swimming in a pool of future faction. Talk about what they were doing. Talk about some fucked up shit. Talk about some PTSD. Shh. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it No, you ain't got no reason, honey. These kids got all the reason. You know what? You probably, I mean, that's a double way of me too. It was pooping there. That's for a show. Oh, yeah. Don't hit the poop pipe, kid. Yeah, three days, that's happening. So yeah, like I said, it belonged to 36 year olds, which is really sad. Woman, Marie Joseph, she'd been shop-roaning at the pool and

Marie Joseph, she'd been shop-roaning at the pool and it's like unclear what happened I guess she just drowned like somehow. And like no one knew. And no one knew. Yeah. So her friends thought that she had just like left like she was there with friends and they were like oh maybe she just left like that's weird and then three days went by and they were like that they were like that's weird. And then three days went by and- And they were like, huh. They were like that's weird. And then these kids found her in the pool. And people were like, what?

So apparently this pool also had like a 12 foot deep end, which is like pretty, really deep. Yeah, that's really deep, right? And also it's like six feet usually. Yeah, like double. The, I think like the deepest pool that I've ever like knowingly been it knowingly been in was Like eight feet deep. Yeah, which is I mean even that is like wicked deep like 12 feet is crazy Yeah, no thanks. I don't want that so apparently no one enjoyed cleaning the pool that much anyways and the life

Apparently well the lifeguards never noticed her at the bottom My god, so it must have been that was a been disgusting water oh it was murky as water and if that wasn't bad enough um to most likely now since fired health inspectors stopped by the pool to like just check it out while she was in while she was in there like rot rotting. So a day after... Oh, you didn't need to be fired. A day after she had gone missing, they like went to check the pull out

and they didn't see anything, but she was rotting in the deep end. Like, did they just go in there and be like, yep, that's a pull, bye. Yeah, I don't know. So... We check. They just didn't notice.

Wow, that's fun though. And that is your urban legend of why you should never fucking pee in the floor because it's rude and don't get in cloud-yass public pool water guys uh-oh you don't know what's in there no they can also be crazy parasites and shit there probably was a not one oh oh that gives me the heaps the heapsbes. Well, you definitely ended on a high note. Thank you. I tried. And by high, I mean very, very low. I ended on a deep note. You did. But I'm ch... Okay. Well, I'll bring us back up with mine.

Don't worry. Totally. I'm sure you might want to. Oh, mine are very fluffy. Yeah, totally fluffy. For Halloween, we wanted to be as fluffy as possible. Super fluffy. So, I have a few more than Ash had because Ash was very busy and I didn't want to overload

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Children's father answers and she asks them if they would be offended if she put a sheet over some kind or like some kind of cover up over the clown statue that's in the room. Because although she appreciates their weird, unique, artistic taste, it kind of freaks her out. There's a beat of silence on the phone and the father replies, take the children and get out of the house now. We do not have a clown statue in our house. What? I just got chills. Right. You had a better setup than me. Sorry. I'm just like here it is. I think there's just spookiness running through my veins. I guess so. Although there's no specific case of this exact scenario happening,

it does have some real life kind of like counterparts. For instance, I think we've all heard of John Wayne Gacy dressed up as Pogo the clown in his free time, and the image of this is completely infamous and holy nightmarish. And obviously we're going to get into John Wayne Gacy in a future episode and we'll go way deep into it, but obviously he was horrific and prolific serial killer. And even now we still get those random explosions of clown sightings all over the place. You know they always crop up in some place and they will experience like weeks at a time, sudden invasions of creepy clowns just staring at people or some of them even try to chase people. I hate clowns so much. This phenomenon is actually cited as

beginning in Boston. Did it really? Yeah. According to Lauren Coleman's mysterious America book, it apparently began in 1981 when reports started flooding in about men dressed as clowns who were trying to lure children into their vans in Boston. Hate it. So that's where the sudden weird phenomenon of where the fuck did all these clowns come from begin. In the clinical term for fear of clowns is called calrophobia.

I have it. It is also surprisingly widespread, especially among children. Really? There was a 2008 study done by the University of Sheffield in England in all of the 250 children that were surveyed in the study said that they did not like the clown images that were part of the decorations in the hospital they were in. Oh wow! Yeah. So this whole urban legend obviously hinges on the fact that clowns are nightmares and no one likes them. And then to imagine when inside your home without you knowing is whole it's so weird. The whole part of it, this part in particular, the whole idea of someone waiting in your house while you're inside of it, kind of harkens back to BTK, which again, we will cover even though I fucking

hate BTK. He actually waited inside of some of his victims' homes all day, and even when they arrived home, he would hide in a closet and just wait for the perfect time to pop out. That is literally so fucked up. Right? Like so long. That's why I check every closet before I go to sleep. Ah, yeah.

So yeah, that's the clown statue urban legend. The next one is a lot more people might know this one. It's the vanishing hitchhiker. So this legend usually says that there's a good Samaritan driving along the road, sees a man or a woman hitching on the side of the road. They pick them up and either poof, they're suddenly gone, or sometimes it takes it a step further and says they gave them a ride home, only to find out from the homeowner that this particular person passed away sometimes years before. Spooky. So again, because Massachusetts is spookiest

fuck, we have our very own infamous, Manishing Hitchhiker in the Bridgewater Triangle. 44, right? Yeah. We call him the red-headed Hitchhiker. He not nice. He not nice. He doesn't I mean, he's spooky. He is often reported as walking down Route 44 in Rehoboth, Massachusetts. And obviously that is part of the bridgewater triangle. His description is always the same. It varies very slightly, if at all. Someone is always driving near the Rehoboth slash sea concline. And they come across a well-built somewhere between the ages of 45 and 55 year old male. He has signature red hair, which is usually accompanied by a beard. He is said to be wearing a flannel shirt and jeans or work pants and work boots.

Some people see him as very well put together, very clean, and then other times people will see him and he looks disheveled and kind of like, like he just worked a really hard day. Either way he's always described as wearing those clothes and he always looks the same. Now when you pick him up, one thing that happens is he doesn't talk to you. He gets in the car, you might ask him a question or two but he will not say a word to you. Some people say he just stares at you which I'd be like cool, cool, cool. But eventually you turned a look and I'm in poof, he fades away. Now when he fades away, he either laughs at you, taunts you, or screams at you. I told you he not knows. Yes, which is not cool. No. There's also people who see him on the side of the road and he'll just wave and disappear,

or he'll just go to walk into the woods and disappear before he gets there. Over my me to never drive near there, ever fucking again. And the worst one is some people say that they will be driving in the area and he just appears in their backseat for a hot second. No thanks. Exactly. I am all set. Isn't there be like some kind of rule where it's like if I don't invite you into my

car, like even if you're dead you can't come in. I know, that should be the rule. Like we should live in a polite society, guys. It's like we should cover this at some point and that's why we drink has a really good episode on the black-eyed children. Oh, that's a great topic. I just gave my own self-chills, just saying. I know, I did too.

I, yeah, it freaks me out. I know I did too. Yeah it freaks me out. That just stressed me out. Yeah. Yeah we're definitely going to be covering them for sure. And we'll eventually, like I said, do a deep dive into the Bridgewater Triangle on an episode. So some of these stories will come back but we're definitely with more detail. So yeah, that's the vanishing hitchhiker. Freaky. The next one everybody knows Bloody Mary. Uh, you know I did this when I was younger. I think everybody did. Yeah, you had it so scared. It's just part of growing up. No, it's, it's horrifying. Like, don't do it. It's like, you know, at a sleepover, you go into the bathroom, you're supposed to take a lit candle.

I think it's just a single lit candle and say her name three times into the mirror with all the lights off. Now what's supposed to happen kind of varies. Either she appears and just scares the shit out of you because she's covered in blood or she tries to drag your ass away. It can be a number of outcomes, but no outcome is good. It's never fun. Yeah, it's never a good outcome, so don't do it.

Now where did this come from? Well, there could be a few different marries that you could be meeting in the mirror when you do this. One point of origin could be Queen Mary the first. She was historically known in her life as Bloody Mary because she was responsible for the deaths by burning at the stake of nearly 300 Protestants to make sure England State is Catholic as possible. So they called her Bloody Mary.

Which is one of the most metal nicknames ever. Like if your name is Mary, just start going by Bloody Mary. Do it. I mean, don't start burning Protestants at the stake, but take that nickname for sure. Mary was unable to produce an heir or have any actual pregnancy, unfortunately. She did have a few phantom pregnancies. One of them was so real that they thought she was going into labor. And they were just like, oh, just kidding, you're not pregnant.

What? Yeah. Which is a phenomenon that's really interesting. But she had a few of them and actually ended up dying in the middle of one. So her version sometimes requires the person to say into the mirror, bloody Mary, I have your baby. Which is just rude. I was gonna say that she's like, don't taunt an infertile dead woman. Yeah. That's just not typically not in the highest of spirits. No. And you just don't need to go there with your spirit games.

I would do the same thing. I would drag them somewhere. I would scare the piss out of them. Now, it could also be Mary Queen of Scots. She didn't directly cause any bloodshed, but she definitely had some shit happen around her, and she met a pretty grizzly end. So she married her cousin.

Whoa. Never a good plan. Yeah, that's not recommended. She married her cousin, the Earl of Darnley. And he ended up being stabbed 56 times in front of her while she was pregnant with his child. Oh, wow. So, bum city.

Very bum city. People immediately started pointing fingers at her, like she did it, even though she didn't. So she had just ended up fleeing with her infant son, John, who would later become the King of England. Fun fact. Because everyone was just like, you did it, burped her. So when she got to her cousin, Queen Elizabeth the first crib, Liz was just like, uh, and had her thrown in jail. Because she didn't want to deal with the bullshit that an uprising would have brought with it.

So she was like, you know what? Let's just get rid of this real quick. I mean, can you blame her? Yeah, she was like, I got shit to do. I'm Queen Elizabeth I. So Mary Queen of Scott ended up being in prison for 19 years. Wow, that's a long time. Yeah. And eventually she was beheaded, but it took several passes to do the job. What?

I think it took like three or four passes with the sword or axe, whatever they used. So that's rough. Because there was clearly a very unskilled executioner on shift to that day. Even worse, somebody like the executioner's assistant or something went to lift her head and yell, long live the queen, as one does. But he grabbed her red wig and her head fell to the floor and rolled away. She had a wig. Yeah. Most a lot of them did have a wig. Damn. But that's just rough times.

Yeah, that's just like humiliating. I would have been really pissed. So, yeah, well, that's a thing. It's like, degree. So it definitely could be her. I would blame her. I would have blamed her. And there's also a woman that's cited often named Mary Worth.

But there are so many variations of her story that it's kind of bullshit. It's like she's a witch, she wasn't, she's this, she's that. It's just, I'm banking on it's Mary Queen of Scots or Mary the First. So yeah, that is Bloody Mary. And my next urban legend is the Halloween decoration that turns out to not be a Halloween decoration. So it's kind of like your kind of a one, but kind of not. I was going to say, like, wait a second. I already did it. I did it. I did it. So this one is, you see a body hanging from someone's tree on Halloween? Turns out to be an actual dead body as opposed to a

cod halaryne decoration. No boy no. No. So it turns out the first scream when the casey's hanging from the tree. Oh yeah. You'd be like, that's a grizzly Halloween decoration. Wow. That's really realistic.

Very well done. Dis-tasteful, but okay. So this actually happened in 2005. Did it really? Yeah. In Frederica, Delaware, a 42 year old woman climbed to a branch more than 15 feet in the air to hang herself at about 9 p.m., just a few days before Halloween.

For several hours that night and then throughout the next day, the hanging body was very visible to everyone passing by. Literally it was in the front yard of someone else's house. Oh my god! It wasn't until around noon the following day that police were called when they realized it was a little too realistic. turns out she did intentionally commit suicide. I'm about to be checking all the trees tomorrow morning. And that is like, that's gnarly. Like a few days before Halloween, you do that in someone's front yard.

That's fucking a sea level. Like that's very metal. That's metal in like a little scary. In a scary way. Yeah. Yeah. That's black in like a little scary. In a lot of scary way. Yeah, that's black metal. Yeah, that's death metal. That's death metal. So yeah, that one's real, so that's fun.

Wow. This one kind of goes along with this one, but it's a little different. This one's the haunted house hanging decoration. That turns out to be a real person. So it's again, another variation of yours. This tale is that a haunted house decides to go for the realism angle and uses a real dead body to hang from a new someone in the props. There is a real instance of this, but it doesn't pan out exactly the way the urban legend states.

In Fenton, Montana, there's a haunted attraction called Creepy World, which is like super original news. On October 27th, 2011. Oh, damn, not that long ago. Yeah, not long ago at all. A 17-year-old actress in the haunt somehow slipped herself into a prop newse that was hanging over a bathtub. She must have slipped on the edge of the tub and began to hang herself accidentally, as people walked by all night thinking she was part of the show. Oh my god!

They found, yeah, they found chuprints and scuff marks on the wall and the tub around her, so she was obviously struggling for a while. Oh! And luckily, a maintenance guy was checking the electrical work in the haunt like between groups yeah and found her unconscious and hanging there oh my god they all cut her down and she ended up surviving she was unconscious they brought her in like she had to go to the ICU she was for a while but she survived thank god so yeah that's and they said it was said it was just a horrific accident.

Like it wasn't intentional. So I think she was supposed to be set up on the edge of the bathtub and she was wearing like a white bathrobe or like a white bath towel. She must have just like maybe tried to do something funny and like slip her head into it and slipped and it actually like tightened around her. Damn, that's really messed up. Thank God she lived. Yeah, like if around her. Damn, that's really messed up. Thank God she looked. Yeah, if tonight bear, I know.

So moving on from that urban legend, we're going to move into something a little different, which is decapitation awareness. Okay. Urban legend states that a human head could remain aware for several seconds after being decapitated from the body. Well, this isn't totally proven yet

because it's weirdly kind of tough to get study this because we can't just go about chopping people's heads up. Why? I know. It's, I don't know. Why don't we just ask a dead guy? Yeah, that's what, I mean, everybody makes things so difficult.

I mean, just like, I'm like, let's just give it a shot. One, one in one is two, you know. You know, it's one of those situations. I'm going to say that about everything. One in one is two, you know. Always, always. Every time. Every time. So that totally connects to this. I get it. Thank you. Well, luckily, luckily, I say, not luckily. There is evidence to suggest that it is possible that decapitated heads sometimes know what the fuck is happening a few seconds after the fact that's kind of cool. It's horrifying. I mean it's fucking terrifying. It's cool in the most horrifying way. Yeah. Um, an example of a study of this, um, Dr. Bureau, I think his name was, who conducted an experiment on a French murderer named Langille.

Supposedly. So this guy Langille went to the guilty because he was a murderer. And the doctor was like, I'm going to attend the execution and I'm going to write down what I see because he just, he wanted to see like what the fuck goes on. So supposedly after he was guillotineed, Langiel's eyes and mouth continued to move for five to six seconds. At which point he appeared to pass on. Now that you can just chalk up to like nerve-ending shooting off and stuff, you know?

Right. Like non-voluntary movement. But then when Biro shouted his name, his eyes popped open, like to answer, like to look at him like what? What? It gets worse. In Biro's own words, quote, lingual eyes very definitely fix themselves on mine. Then the pupils focusing themselves.

So then for the next 30 seconds, he kept trying to get him to look at him. Yeah, he kept, it's so for 30 more seconds, he got him to look at him one more time. When he shouted his name, he shouted his name a third time and he was finally dead. But he said that the look he gave him when he actually like looked at him when he called his name was like somebody had interrupt, like when you're in deep thought and somebody interrupts you, like the glare you give them, like what? Like that? Like, yeah. That's wild. Which gives you all the chilly willies. Yeah. Now there's also like a sign. I haven't seen a lot of you cutting my head off, so. Yeah, like he's just sitting there being like,

really? Yeah, that's messed up. And then he's like what dude? So there's also like a sciencey one, which I thought was interesting. A chemist named Antoine Lavassier was one of the greatest French scientists during the super gnarly French revolution when everybody was just getting their heads chopped off and shit.

So that's unfortunate. Unfortunately, he was also an investor in a private tax collection company and had a clash with one of the leaders of the revolution, Jean-Paul Marat. So all of that basically meant that he had to be guillotine. You know. You know. It's just the way shit went. Yeah, it's just the way the cookie crumple It's just like one and one is always two one and one is always two, you know, it's the way that the croissant Crohn's Same, this is French Molo croissant

Molo croissant. That's a French ass name. That's a French ass name evil if you don't don't know what I'm talking about I hate you. If you need to go YouTube bad If you don't know what we're talking about just type in like that's a French ass name My love I get your number. So yeah, he had to go to the girl team unfortunately sometimes I got on the on the 8th of May 1794 and on the 8th of May 1794 and the cool thing about him was he was dedicated to science even in the end. He managed to participate in one experiment even during his death. He promised that after his beheading he would keep blinking as long as he retained his consciousness.

Oh my God. And he asked his friend to watch him and record this if he did it because he said I'm going to keep blinking. How long did he retained his consciousness. Oh my God. And he asked his friend to watch him and record this if he did it because he said, I'm gonna keep blinking. How long did he blink for? He reportedly continued to blink for 15 seconds. Holy shit, that's a long time. Like kept blinking.

And that's not just like a coincidence that he's like, I'm gonna blink. No way. And he keeps blinking. So that's fucking terrifying. Now, this whole thing can be attributed to something called the quote, wave of death, which immediately after the, it's pretty gnarly. It's, it happens immediately after the head is removed from the body. They've done tests

on lab rats, unfortunately, to test this out, because times the way they use the eyes lab rats is by decapitation because they think that's the most humane way because it it ends really quick. Right. Or so they thought supposedly. But they were starting to see in these lab rats that all of a sudden there was this surge of brain activity that can cause the head to be aware and actually produce thoughts right after being removed. Like you can take in like auditory and visual things as your head is removed. And it only stops after the brain is sufficiently starved of glucose and oxygen long enough to die. So this provides basis for the argument that this, that you could kind of,

your head could kind of be saved if it was supplied with glucose and oxygen. Wow, that's a big time. I mean, it's not bizarre. I mean, I'm not saying you'd have, you can do anything, but technically, it could still be alive. That's like so weird to think of. Isn't it bizarre? Yeah. Because you think it like, I always say decapitation freaks me out. Me too. We were talking about the the Gainesville Ripper. Yeah. That one's instance. It's like removing someone's head just seems like the most barbaric and scary thing you can do. Because it just seems very person. It just seems very inhumane. It is. It does. And and at first like the guillotine to me always seemed like very humane.

Like at least it's quick and clean. And is there a humane way to die? I don't know. Not really. But if you can start, if you can see, and I think there's like, there's also situations where like I think Ann Bolin was said after she was beheaded to like her lips. We're still moving in prayer. Yeah.

And it's like, there's a few others. There was a woman who after she was guillotine to the guy because they always held up the head and did something awful. Like they were always just dicks about it. And I guess the guy who held up her head slapped her cheek and said something and people watching like it's in the history records that says her cheeks flushed and she looked angry Oh, wow Angry face, which can you imagine that to capitate it had making an angry face? No, like when the face was like one like a different expression right before Exactly. It's like no, I would make a duck face. I don't know like I'd be like you would

If I had 15 seconds to prove that theory, that's what I would do. I'd be like, you would not play because I was about to die. You'd be like, hmm. Before you'd go, you'd be like, all right, so watch me. And if I start making duck faces, I'm conscious. And right now, Ash is making like a million selfie-fold faces. I love it. Amazing.

So, yeah, that's the competition awareness. Hey, oh. Sounds like it's like a week. Like, the competition awareness week. It should be a week. Where we educate you on the competition. So I only have like two more left and they kind of have to do with each other. Okay.

And the next one is buried alive. Uh, the worst. I know that. The fuck does that have to do with? Well, the, the urban legend says that a woman who went to her grave at, like a young woman who went to her grave after dying suddenly, Usually a family member has some kind of dream or feeling or vision that this woman isn't dead yet. They dig her up to Jesus person's fears

or to prove that she's fucking not. And they find scratch marks on the inside of the lid of the coffin. I hate that. Dun dun dun. So the medical term for the fear of being buried alive as a result of being incorrectly pronounced dead is taffophobia. Okay. Definitely have that. Unfortunately, this liberal legend has proved to be true. There was actually an instance recorded in the New York Times on January 18, 1886 in Woodstock, Ontario. It says, this is what the news clipping said. Recently, a girl named Collins

died here, as it was supposed very suddenly. A day or two ago, the body was exhumed prior to its removal to another burial place. When the discovery was made that the girl had been buried alive, her shroud was torn into shreds. Her knees were drawn up to her chin. One of her arms was twisted under her head and her features bore evidence of dreadful torture. Oh my god. And that was like a real news clipping. No thank you. Now in 1905, the English reformer William Teb collected accounts of premature burial. He found that in 219 cases of near-live burial had happened. What?

149 actual live burials had happened. 10 cases of live dissection happened and 2 cases of awakening while being imbalmed happened. What? Also live dissection, goodbye. Yeah, no. Not about it. Not about it. That would be rough.

I'm telling you. That's like always my fear when I go to cut into someone I'm like, hello? There should be like tests. Like you should just like speak now or forever hold that piece girl. For real. Or like the opposite of peace. We always know everybody's dead before we cut them just as a year. I share hope so. We do. It's modern medicine and all. So as like I just

said, this was all before modern medical science. So checking for vital science was not something they could really accurately do back then. It was just super archaic. So someone could look in a pure dead, but not actually be clinical dead, which can happen now. Right. During these times, like the 18th, 19th and even the early 20th century, people actually had their coffins outfitted with safety precautions like bells and shit, just in case they were pre-maturedly in tombs. I would do that shit. I would do that now. The first recorded safety coffin was Duke Ferdinand of Brunswick, which is an awesome name.

Hell yeah. Before his death in 1792, he demanded to have a window installed to allow light in, an air tube to provide a supply of fresh air. And instead of having the lid nailed down, he had a lock fitted. And then in a special pocket in his shroud, he had two keys, one for the coffin lid and one to unlock the tomb door. Oh my God. He was like, let's do this. But did he actually actually die? He did. Yeah, he didn't have to use all his shit, but he was ready. That's good. Is better to be ready. Yeah, I mean, the better safe than sorry. So in 1798, PG Pesler,

a German priest, suggested that all coffins must have a tube inserted from which a cord would run to the church bells. So if an individual had been buried alive, they could tell people by ringing the church bells from their coffin, which I think is a pretty good one. Now this one's pretty rough. Pessler's colleague, Pastor Beck, suggested that coffins have a small trumpet-like tube attached. And each day, the local priest could check the state of putrefaction of the corpse by sniffing the odors emanating from the tube. You imagine having that job? Like, what?

So if no smell was smelled or the priest heard cries for help in the coffin, they could dig them up. I'd be like the priest in training. Yeah, that would be like the bitch priest. Like, I'm like the bitch of the salon right now and I would so have to do that. They'd be like, oh yeah, you would have to do that. Go smell for the bodies. They really go smell those trumpets girl. Yucky.

You look no, thank you. No, thanks. And it's like in a good day is coming back from that being like they all smelled like shit. Yeah, true. Yeah. Like a bad day is when you're like, no, it smells good. Everyone's alive and we buried them. So in 1995, a modern safety coffin was patented by Fibrizio Cazelli. In what year I'm sorry? 1995. Oh wow, they're here before of my birth. Yeah, exactly. Before of my birth, I just said, before of your birth. It's all over me. Before of my birth. His said. Before of your birth. It's all over me. Before of my birth.

His design included an emergency alarm, an intercom system, a flashlight, breathing apparatus, and both a heart monitor and a stimulator. Wow. Yeah. And it's also believed that the phrase is saved by the bell, dead ringer and graveyard shift come from the use of safety copdans in the quarter.

It makes sense. What was the second one? A lot of sense. Dead Ringer. Dead Ringer. Because you would ring the bell of the eye. Yeah. And then Graveyard Shift is going around and smelling all the fucking tubes.

And saved by the bell is just like Kelly Kepowski. Exactly. That's where that came from. Yeah. It's fairly modern. Okay. I want to hear what kind of is this. Barry to live with an engagement ring. Oh, okay. Don't worry. So this isn't really an urban legend, but it's fucking nuts. And I had to share it because it's a real thing that happens. So a woman named Mika-Lina, Lluendoska, she's a little bit silly, 27 years old, was alive by her fiance, Marcin Kaspreck, and his friend Patrick Bore is in 2011.

Oh wow! Now literally, he got bored with her and wanted to be with other women. So he was like, I'm just going to attack her and bury her alive. He attacked her with a taser. She said quote, I was trying to push him away with the taser. He knelt down. He pressed my ribs with his knee and continued to use the taser. Holy shit.

He was taser twice in the neck, bound and gagged, and put into a cardboard computer box. Um, he like, what happened to just breaking up with someone? That's the thing. It's like, can we just break up? Like, I'll get over that much faster than you taser in very life. I mean, very alive.

That's just fucked up. He taped the box shut, put her in the trunk of his car, then drove her to the woods, and buried her head down under nearly half a foot of dirt, and then left. So she testified that she struggled to breathe that made use of the only tool she had. Her big ass engagement, right? You motherfuckers. She cut her legs free, then

scratched the box with the diamond in her engagement ring until she got all the way out. She said it took her a half an hour to cut herself out of the cardboard coffin, and then she flagged down a motorist to help her. Oh my God! Can you imagine? They all went to jail for attempted murder, by the way, So that's good for how long? I don't even know, but the best part about this is that the way she got out was that big ass engagement ring that he gave her. Yeah. And then you sold that shit for mad money, I hope. Exactly.

Because I would not want to keep it. But you know what? Always get a big ass engagement ring. Just in case. I mean, that's my goal at any. Yeah. And that's the reason just so you can carve your way out of the cardboard box. Just in case Annie buries me alive,

which I don't see happening in the future, but who does? I really hope that doesn't happen in the future. I mean, PSI don't allow it to. Yeah, I won't. So those are urban legends. We hope you enjoyed them. We wanted to keep it a little little shorter and sweeter. And to the pointer. I think. And to the pointer. This was so fun.

And I was going to go into some of the urban legends of like the Razor Beleds and Candy and Shit, but we all have for another day. Yeah. Just check those candy. That's cool. Shit, see, that's not true. So you're not not. No, each each okay. Andy check your case since of that happening, but check your candy. Anyways, well check it candy. Yeah, I think that's all the we don't have a lot more business to tend to, but we are doing a bonus episode soon. I promise. Yes, we will. Maybe we'll watch urban legend because it will be like fitting. Oh, there you go. You should do that. And then we'll keep House of 1000 Corps is for another one.

Yeah let's do it. But uh yeah so maybe we'll do Urban Legend and Chichad about that just to have a companion episode. Yes. So be on the lookout for that. We'll let you know when it's coming it will come soon because we are all on the mend now so we can function again. I hope so. I got some medicine at Whole Foods today. I'm trying to be holistic and shit. You got some earthy crunchy meds. I did. It was like all natural and fucking $12. Hey, whatever works, man.

Hopefully it does. Whatever blows the shit out of your system because it sucks. It's like something about like bronchial infections and I was like, yeah, I think I have that. You look, I got that. Self-diagnosed. MD. Then I bought some sushi.

Yeah, that goes together. So, yeah, so we'll let you know when that's coming out. And in the meantime, you can find us on Instagram. At morbidpodcast. You can send us an email. morbidpodcast.gmail.com. You can follow us on Twitter. At a morbidpodcast. And you.com. You can follow us on Twitter at a Morebidpodcast.

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