Morbid - Episode 322: Spooky Castles Vol. 1

Episode Date: June 4, 2022

We decided to create a new installment of our spooky series and this time we’re bringing you some SPOOKY CASTLES!!!! Alaina brings us the Scottish haunts of both Edinburgh castle and Glamis... Castle and Ash brings us to Villa De Vecchi in Italy and then to Houska Castle in The Czech Republic. We’ve got sealed off places, grey ladies, historians, a possible sealed off pit to hell and more!!!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:23 of your home. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's ANGI.com. Hey, Weirdo, I'm Ash. And I'm Alena. And this is a new series that we're gonna do. Have we not done one of these before? No, I don't think we've done a spooky castle. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I mean, I'm sure we've covered a spooky castle, but we didn't like officially make it a series. Yeah, yeah. So, welcome to spooky castles, kind of like spooky lighthouses and spooky roads. So I'll kind of spooky shit around. And we have another spooky coming. Like another new series.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Okay, series. Because you know what, there's a whole fucking world out there. A castle. A castle. A ship. A road of lighthouses. And they're all fucking spooky. Hell yeah. So, with this one, because I think with the lighthouses, we stayed mostly in the United States, but we're definitely going to venture out that way too. Oh yeah. But with this one, we like really took it international. So we went wild with it. Because let me But with this one, we like really took it international. So we went wild with it. Because let me tell you, Europe,
Starting point is 00:02:48 you know how to have a spooky castle moment. Yeah, you really do. This is literally only in Europe. Yeah, right? Are you're two? Yeah, because you guys, I mean, mine's only in Scotland because I really like focused it. Listen to you.
Starting point is 00:03:00 On my homeland. I'm in Italy and I'm also in the Czech Republic. Oh, look at you. See, we're all over the place. Girl, shit. But yeah, this is really exciting. The cool thing with these spooky places is, you know, it's kind of a nice mixture of some like old true crime
Starting point is 00:03:18 with some paranormal fun. Because, you know, there's always some really gnarly shit that's happening. I will say for this one I was going to cover chilling him castle. Mmm, but I've decided that deserves its own episode completely. There's just that so be on the lookout for that one because that one's coming up. I got to cover that. I'm excited. It's so much in that. But I'm really excited about this today and we are on like an adrenaline rush right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Literally just sitting in the kitchen, talking to John, talking to Alina. Well, baby was there. Well, youngest baby. Yep. And all of a sudden she started gasping for air because she was eating little chips and hummus, like little pita chips.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And she very much like, not like, oh, I just choked like, oh my goodness. Like, no, she full on turned another shade of red and was choking and John was like, hun, she's choking and then Alina literally scooped that baby up. Like, I'm like just like so, the two of them, I was like, you're so calm right now. Like, and I'm just standing there helplessly
Starting point is 00:04:20 in the corner like, wow, there's nothing in this situation that I can do to provide help because I don't know the highlight which I should know I'm gonna learn that later. As I'm watching Elena like, the back of my little two-year-old bebanese and then she vombed everywhere. She did, she got it out but the one thing I could do was clean that because as we all know, I'm a vombed here. I was just gonna say, don't you dare say you didn't, you didn't give anything to this because Ash was there. And then this was like a really scary one. I think everybody who has kids, like they choke sometimes, like quote unquote choke. Yeah. Where like, you know, you can get it out. It's a scary second or two. But this took a few minutes.
Starting point is 00:04:57 But this was like a real, an actual choke. And that has not happened to us before. So that was like really scary. It was like two minutes, but it was really scary. It felt like knee-to-deep minutes. And so I got, she got some of it out, and it was like puke with some chip. And Ash was just there, like, scooped it right up, wiped it right up as it came out, and I was like, thank you,
Starting point is 00:05:19 because the last thing you want to do after all that is clean up on it. So, but we got it out the second time. I was in that first, you want to do after all that is clean up on it. So, but we got it out the second time. I was in that like, first, you want to do like the bump between the shoulders with the heel of your, you know, hands kind of thing, like a few good slaps. And if that doesn't work, that's when you have to like turn them over at this age and like do the like actual like you've got like pump. And I didn't, I really didn't want to have to do that.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Like that's, I would obviously do that, but like, that's really scary and like, really, one real to me, like that's like, cause you could break a rib. Well, and it's just like, that's when shit's like going awry. So I was like, I really gotta get it out here in these like five good slaps that I can do. But holy shit, guys.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I think John, John's like in another planet right now. Like he did that just, that sent him into a tizzy, but what you would never know because he was so calm through that whole thing. And then she literally, she's like, I want a good doctor. And put another chip in her mouth and I literally took it out of her mouth
Starting point is 00:06:22 and then I grabbed the bag. We had like two bags of chips from this really delicious Greek restaurant. Like I felt I feel really sad about this, but I threw them right in the trash. I was like, no, I don't need to see those chips for a moment. No more chips for you. Oh, yeah. She's like one of those kids who just like, you really got to watch her and give her tiny little pieces and it only takes one second.
Starting point is 00:06:42 She just will like, whoverin. I know it's not funny. It's ironic, I guess. I was eating the chips so I was giving them to her like before this happened, like 25 minutes before, and I kept giving her like the tiniest piece because in my head I was like, these are big chips that I wanted to choke.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah. And I literally thought that in my head. And then, yeah, it was funny because right afterwards, she was like, I wanna go to the doctor and said she was like, I want to go to the doctor. And I was like, you don't need to, luckily, but that's okay. Oh, that was, that'll take you down a few notches real quick. That was like a real scary experience.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I texted her at work and I was like, she's fine, but he was like, oh my god, they just like, whoo, that's like really, really scary. And then two minutes later, I got her like this like rocket ship thing and she was like, she was like, I wanna go do that! She was like, let's zoom.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I was like, oh okay. So now she's zooming around in a rocket ship, completely fine, breathing like a champion and where the one's not breathing like, I was just gonna say meanwhile, we've all aged 16 or so years. Yeah, in that moment. But I've already like thought to myself, like, okay, get home. Google, I'm like, classes.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, it's hard learning all that shit. Figure out how to save a life when one is joking. Oh, so yeah, that was fun. So we're feeling like ready to go, ready to talk about the spooky castle. Yeah. I'm glad we're talking about spooky castles after that, because this is what I needed right after that for real Do you want I think
Starting point is 00:08:11 I don't I feel okay. Yeah, let's have ash go first Yeah, I mean you just went through a lot so I'm relax take a minute All right, so my first little haunted place. I decided to dive into it. It's called Viedeveki. Ooh, and it's in Italy. Ooh, so it's located in the mountains of a place I haven't looked up yet, so we're already gonna have to pause. Alright, let's pause for pronunciation. Yay. What's fun is I actually didn't need that pronunciation key because it just auto corrected to a word that didn't exist. There you go, and you had it right.
Starting point is 00:08:42 When you were saying it before. Yeah, it's the mountains of Cortanova, and it's right near Lake Como, which hopefully I said that right. I like it. So throughout history, it's also known by like a few other names other than Bia de Vecchi, including the Red House.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Ooh, the Ghost Mansion. Ooh, and you thought you liked those two, but the last one it's known by is the House of Witches. Oh, shut the fuck up, right? Get me there immediately. I know. That's all my favorite things. Red, love the color.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Ghosts, love the band. Spooky little assholes. Oh, and the boo. And the boo, and the boo, and the bandit all. Look, the boo of it all. I love it all. I love the band, I love the spooky, they're spookyit all. Look the boo of it all. I love it all. I love the band, I love the spooky, they're spooky, too. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Whoa. And I love witches. Yeah. It's made for me. It is, honestly. If you look at a picture of this place, it really is. It's the boo of it all. It's the boo for me, dog.
Starting point is 00:09:38 So it was believed to have been built somewhere between 1854 and 1857 by a man named Count Felix Devecki. Yeah. Now, at that time he was actually the head of the Italian National Guard. Okay. And for Felix. And like for good reason, he served in the liberation of Milan from Austria back in 1848. Damn.
Starting point is 00:10:03 And that's how he became the head of the Italian national god. Look at that. So to plan this mansion, which he really only planned on using in the summertime as like a little, well, large retreat family. Just a little retreat. Yeah, just a little tiny retreat out in the mountains. No, it was huge.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But he enlisted the help of Alessandro Sudoli. Yeah, him. Like why wouldn't you call him Alessandro? And Alessandro was an architect who shared the same love that the count had for intricate design. So together they settled on a baroque style. Ooh, I love baroque. I know you do.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And they had some classic Eastern trends mixed in. Okay. Meaning there would be an element of drama within the house between the way that it was all lit and the dome ceilings and the intricate murals. I'm into it. Now the ceilings and walls were all painted with watercolors and there were like sculpting on the walls,
Starting point is 00:10:59 like beauty, like gingerbread-esque kind of stuff. Kind of stuff, you know? Baroque-y Baroque-ness. Now I'm saying, now in the main parlor, there was a giant fireplace and in the same room there was a grand piano. This whole episode is just gonna be me like talking in a weird accent.
Starting point is 00:11:14 But unfortunately, and you know like maybe this was some kind of warning sign. Uh-oh. Alessandro died only one year into building the mansion. Oh no. And you didn't even get to enjoy it. No, he didn't. Well luckily, it's the counts mansion.
Starting point is 00:11:28 So like, you don't get to like, come visit. I know. You know, I know. And he totally, you're gonna be well. Yeah. I would love to do that. I was Sandra will always come visit. Maybe he's still there. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I don't know. Actually, there's no like, ghost named Alessandro in this story, but he's there. Maybe he's nameless. Like, in the afterlife. There you go. So the year that he worked on the property, though,
Starting point is 00:11:48 he did some amazing things considering the time period especially. There were indoor heating pipes. Damn. Yeah, and we're talking 1800s. Look at you. There were dumb waiters. You know those little elevator things
Starting point is 00:12:01 I want a dumb waiter in my house. Like ideal for laundry. Oh yeah. Right? Yeah, you know, and it also had a pressurized water fountain that used air pressure from the mountains nearby. Damn. Look at all of Sandro.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Mind blowing stuff for the time. Now the mansion had been built on 32 acres of land and there were all these gorgeous, gorgeous gardens. Gorgeous, gorgeous gardens. It's like gorgeous, gorgeous girls, but a little bit different. They were all around in the family. But the tentacle.
Starting point is 00:12:31 They were a little bit botanical. Gorgeous, gorgeous botanicals. That would be a really good name for like a plant store. What? TM. So TM. So the family, where they would take walks outside and these gorgeous, gorgeous gardens with botanicals
Starting point is 00:12:45 and they'd play outside together. Sounds lovely. It sounds gorgeous. But unfortunately, Alessandro's death would not be the only one that the family would experience while living in said mansion. Uh-oh. So there's no historic record of anything
Starting point is 00:13:00 that I'm gonna tell you. Okay. Right now. We love to see it. But what I am gonna tell you is the main legend that's always told whenever anybody brings up Via de Vecchi. Okay. So I'm gonna tell you this wild ass story
Starting point is 00:13:13 and then I'm gonna tell you what historians actually believe happened. Cool. So take this with a large grain of sodium, the biggest sodium grain you could possibly find, okay. So one day in 1862, the count came home to find his wife, Carolina, FranCetty, Duponte. Murdered.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Murdered. Her face had been mangled and she was left displayed in one of the rooms of the mansion. My God. I know. Now as soon as he found his wife in that state, obviously he started panicking because that's his wife. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:13:44 But also because they thought whoever had done this to her most likely also found his daughter and did the same thing to her. Oh no. So he's worried that he's gonna find her in a similar state. So he tries desperately to find his daughter within the mansion walls.
Starting point is 00:13:59 He looks from top to bottom, all over the mansion can't find her anywhere. It was like she literally just vanished into thin air. He spent the next year of his life looking like in the woods in the area and the mountains and just never found his daughter, never found out who had done this to his wife. That's almost unbelievable. It is almost unbelievable. So wild. It's the craziest thing. Geez. Now eventually, he just kind of hit rock bottom. He couldn't take the heartbreak anymore. Of course.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And unfortunately, he decided to take his own life. The legend says, now when it was discovered that the count was no more, his brother, Biago, took over the estate and he moved him with his whole family and he changed a lot of stuff about the mansion, which is kind of shitty. Seems legit. You know, it might be true, actually. I bet like he did about the mansion, which is kind of shitty. Seems legit. You know, it might be true, actually, that like he did this. His brother really did take it over, but a lot of people think actually like actual historians think that, um, count actually just out of liver failure.
Starting point is 00:14:56 It's a little different. A little bit. Yeah, that's a little different, but like still, it's weird that his brother just like moved his whole family into this place. I believe the count left it to his brother. And again, if I, here I am thinking that like this brutal massacre happened, and this house so, you know what it did.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So that's not weird. Or maybe it did about it. Or maybe it did. The historians are like, how can we say that this brutal murder happened and we never found out who did it? No, liver failure. Wow, liver.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Like it's the historians that are upset that they didn't crack the case. I mean, you know. They're like, how many we not? No, the historians. How? Liver. The historians that are upset that they didn't crack the case. I mean, they're like, how do we not? No, the historians know what's up. They do. But, but Biago took over. He changes everything, kind of rude. You know, like took out all the classical Eastern touches.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah, that's a bummer. It's ridiculous. And he and his family actually ended up living in the mansion until World War II came around. But one day after the war broke out, the broke out, excuse me, they just up and left and they never returned. Oh, that's some weird amity,ville shit.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And it left via DeVecchi completely abandoned. Oh. Entirely abandoned. Why'd they do that? Haunted? Can you ask them? Why'd they do that? Piago. you ask him? Why'd they do that? Piago.
Starting point is 00:16:06 What'd you do? Piago. Not answer. He didn't say, okay, he's gone home. Sorry, that was a funny bit. That was, that was a really funny bit. It was hilarious. L.A. laughed really hard.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Oh my gosh. How would I ever be so funny again? So the next report of anyone visiting the property was when Alistair Crowley decided to go on over to Italy and pay the place a visit. A little guy named Alistair Crowley. Yeah, I'm not sure if you've heard of him or not. I have not.
Starting point is 00:16:33 So he was said to bring a whole crew of people with him to perform some kind of like sacrificial ritual in which they wanted to invoke Satan himself. Obviously. According to Italic's magazine, the ritual, and a whole slew of the crew Alistair brought along with him were slaughtered, quote unquote, painting the house with foul blood. Oh, yeah. And the blood was foul. Fowl blood. Okay. Now, once words spread that Alistair and company had been to Via de Vecchi, it became a premotorist spot, obviously. And there's all kinds of rumors that people will now use the via as a place to carry out murder,
Starting point is 00:17:10 satanic rituals, all kinds of other dark ass shit. They say that like witches, like we'll bring their coven there and do crazy shit. Yeah, like the, what is it, the shameful kiss? The shameful kiss. You've carried out there, I'm sure. Oh my God, Oscar Lemus. Absidim. Absidum, there you go.
Starting point is 00:17:26 As the ask-host. I was gonna say, I was like, you're not making any astabias. You're not saying anything about that. Next time I see Tobias, I'll ask him. Cool. So yeah, so people, like everybody says, like murder's happened there,
Starting point is 00:17:40 which is going visit. Satan, that. It's Satan, Satan. Rapins there. Satan, that Satan happens there. Satan, he just took over my body. He's satanic rituals, this is what I meant to say. And all kinds of crazy stuff happens. These people just walk past the no-protress passing signs and they go into the historic mansion themselves
Starting point is 00:17:57 and they fuck shit up. Yeah, they just go full dark side. And they actually do, because I don't know who did this, but a bunch of assholes just destroyed the Bambini destroyed it. Yeah, like not like Satanists or anything like that. No just bandals. So just probably like shitty beef teenage assholes. Yeah, so there's graffiti all over the walls. That's some things have been smashed at pieces. Like, come on kids. Just completely ruined it. It's a mystery man. I know. Well, it's like, why would you want to destroy such a beautiful place?
Starting point is 00:18:26 And it's not yours. Yeah, get out of here. Don't destroy things that are yours. Don't destroy anything, but especially if it's not yours. So luckily, the Italian Environmental Fund actually has set up campaigns for the VIA and they're hoping to spread public awareness that this is going on. So sadly, at some point, the the grand piano was smashed to literal pieces. A grand piano? Who's a fuck?
Starting point is 00:18:50 What kind of fucking demon did that? That, thank you. That should be a crime. Like that's like high felony in my opinion. You don't fucking smash an ancient grand piano. Like, go to wrongly. Aw, man. Holy shit. And also, biago, you don't just leave a grand piano. Like, good to wrong. Aw, man. Holy shit. And also, biago, you don't just leave a grand piano. Yeah, what the fuck? Throw that on the minivan and get.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Toss it, let it run, whatever. Yeah, it's fine. And then all the murals are completely defaced. They've been covered in spray paint. It's so sad. One woman who visited the property actually fell through the ceiling while she was on the second floor
Starting point is 00:19:24 because it's in that much disrepair from all the years that it's been left on care for. I'm really sorry. I almost laughed because I know exactly what you were picturing. But what happened in our first apartment? John fell through the ceiling. You shared like a bunch of friends. John fell through the ceiling. Did you go downstairs and just like see the legs? We did what's on the legs. And we just ended up at our landlord who lived below us because it was like a double-decker house.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And we just went down there and we were like, uh, John's in the sea. So John fell through the sea. And he came up, looked at the hole and was like, all right, I'll fix that tomorrow. And we were like, thank you. But he actually fixed it. He did. He fixed it, he was great.
Starting point is 00:20:05 If he didn't just like put, why am I not? Our landlord was a gem. We love him. I don't know if that's not. My god, it was funny to want, like, he was okay, and everybody was okay. Yeah, like, somebody was sitting in the living room and dust just whatever you were,
Starting point is 00:20:18 and they said, you just, you're like, don't, it was really funny. That's hilarious. I know, like, I hope this woman was okay, but picturing somebody coming's hilarious. I know. I hope this woman was okay, but picturing somebody coming through as she gets hilarious. I hope this woman had a John scenario where it was just funny for everyone.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'm also the worst person on the planet. I become the worst person on the planet. When people fall, it sends me into America's funniest home videos when the kids could fall over. I'm cackling. Oh, and one of the things that I laugh at every time is in step-brothers when they make the bed into bunk beds and he's in the bed and he's going, and then it just falls on him.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I laugh so hard every time. It is the funniest thing, that kind of thing people falling through things. I love it. Or things fall. I don't know what it is. It's the funniest thing, like that kind of thing, people falling through things. I love it. Or things fall, it's, I don't know what it is. It's the funniest thing I've ever seen. So that's all I picture is just like, something falling. Oops. So I hope this person was okay,
Starting point is 00:21:16 because otherwise that's not funny. She was fine. She was okay. And listen, she walked past a no-trust passing sign. There you go. You gotta be careful, man. That's what the no-trust passing is for. That's exactly what it's for.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Now, so people, they ruined this place, they fallen through the ceilings and all that stuff, but people do have some interesting stories from visiting. Medium writer Emily Lindstrom wrote of her visit, that quote, upon entering one immediately senses eyes following them, neither welcoming, normal level in. It's as if the house is holding its breath,
Starting point is 00:21:46 waiting to see where you step and what you'll do next. And it's hard to shake the feeling that as soon as you depart, it will stir to life again. Ooh. It gives me beauty in the beast. It does. It is serving beauty in the beast realness. Yes, it really is.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Now what a beautiful way to say that. Yeah, great writer, Emily and Ström, Emily, that was like really is. What a beautiful way to say that. Yeah, great writer. Emily Lindstrom. Emily, that was like really beautiful. Check out her articles on media. Yeah, like good for her. Now, other visitors have heard female voices calling out to them as they walk through the hallways. And some people say that if you're there at night, you'll still hear the sounds of music, like someone is at the grand piano playing music. I love that. Isn't that like so haunting and beautiful? It is. Now let me just, we're gonna end this here, but I do have to leave you with some wild information. In 2002, there was an avalanche in the area, like a full blown fucking avalanche,
Starting point is 00:22:38 and every single place around Vietivecchi was destroyed, completely and utterly destroyed. It was terrible. Yeah, horrific. The Via was basically untouched, like nothing ever happened to it. What? Gigantic boulders are cascading down the mountain tops, but for some reason they all just completely missed this place. What?
Starting point is 00:23:01 Isn't that in, like that's some kind of phenomenon. That's wild. It's insane. Holy shit. It's the haunting of it all. It is the haunting of it all. And we'll obviously post a picture of this place. It is so eerily beautiful. I want to live there. Oh, I want to see it. I want to like go buy it somehow and restore it. Just have to fill it with love. Just live part time in Italy. No full time. Full time. Yeah, honestly, bye. Moving.
Starting point is 00:23:27 We're out. See you never. Wow. Catch me at the villa. Catch me at the villa. So wow. Crazy. That's a creepy one.
Starting point is 00:23:36 It is creepy and it's beautiful. It's even creepier when you're looking at pictures of it as you're researching it too. Like, just like spooky. There's not like a ton, but like there's a ton. Yeah, just like the vibe of it as you're researching it too. Like, just like, ooo, spooky. There's not like a ton, but like, there's a ton. Yeah, just like the vibe of it is really scary. Yeah, it caught a vibe. It caught, it did catch a vibe in that it's for sure.
Starting point is 00:23:53 It was not ready for the ride. And you know what, we got like some like devil stuff going on in there. I mean, Alistair Crowley was there. We got some witches doing some crazy shit in there. Yeah, you know, I'm into it. It's considered like Italy, one of most, one of Italy's most haunted places.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And I was like, but there's not even a haunted. And I know, this is beautiful. Just playing a piano. This is beautiful. Well damn. What's next? Well now we're gonna take a trip over to Edinburgh. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Over in Scotland. Over, do we have to go over the pond? Over in Scotland. Over the pond from go over the pond? Over in Scotland. Over the pond from us for sure. Alright, cool. So we're gonna go to Edinburgh Castle. Edinburgh. Edinburgh.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Edinburgh. We googled how to pronounce it again. Cause I've covered things in Edinburgh before. I've done a bunch of things about it and I say it right every time because no one yells at me. I've looked it up up like I've made sure of that because I feel like these are my people. I feel like I should say it right. So, but for some reason,
Starting point is 00:24:52 I second guess myself every time. And especially with Scottish things, because I'm like, I don't want to disappoint you, Scotland. Yeah, I mean so much. Like I get very nervous. I'm like, I don't want to disappoint you. Yeah, but when we were looking at the video
Starting point is 00:25:04 and they said that people who live there just shortened it to Embra. Embra. I was like, I don't want to disappoint you. Yeah, but when we were looking at the video and they said that people who live there just shorten it to Embra. Embra. I was like, I want to do that. I was like, I love that, but I don't feel like I'm like worthy of that yet. Like, I'll get there. Of course you are. You're worthy of everything. I feel like a Scottish person has to bestow that upon me. You are, Scott. I'm Scottish. So, like, somebody who's like living in Scotland right now. Yeah. First generation right now. That's true. Like, if you bestow that upon me, then I'll call it Embra, but right now I'll call it Embra. You have living in Scotland or in the first generation right now. That's true. But if you would stow that upon me, then I'll call it Embra. But right now, I'll call it Embra.
Starting point is 00:25:28 You have land in Scotland. I do. I bought it for you. I'm a lady. Like, it was like a dollar. It was like one of those square plot things. This is what I didn't say. I didn't say.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I didn't say. It was one of those things I have like a thing that says I have it. And you're a lady. I am a lady. I'm a lady of Scotland. Lady, lady. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Lady, lady. All right, anyways. We're in Wild Room. We'm a lady of Scotland. Lady, lady. Lady, lady. All right, anyways. We're in Edmbrough Castle. It's known as the most haunted place in Scotland. It is literally ancient. Literally. Literally. Literally.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally. Literally. Oh, it has been the site of Gasly deaths, tortures, imprisonments. At first, I thought you said it's been the site of Gas Leaks. It's been the site of gas maybe, I don't know. I didn't read anything about a Gas leak, but Gas to leak murders. Yep. But it's one of the oldest fortified places in Europe, which means it was built with like strong walls
Starting point is 00:26:21 and shit to kind of like stop attacks. Very cool. It's the oldest one. It once was a royal like strong walls and shit to kind of like stop attacks. Very cool. The oldest one. It once was a royal treasury where records and jewels and like very important shit was kept. Jewels. Apparently even magical amulets were housed there
Starting point is 00:26:35 at one time. Magical amulets like Sofia's. Hell yeah, like Sofia in the first. Are you sure you're still? Hell yeah. That I loved. I was like magical amulets, right? Right. Sign me up. Now if you've seen it, which we still, yeah. That, I love it. I was like, magical amulets, right? You say?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Sign me up. Now, if you've seen it, which we'll post a photo of it, obviously, but if you've seen it, it's like really high above the city on this huge craggy rock formation. It just like overlooks everything. If you live in Edinburgh, and you can just like look up at that, it must be so fucking cool.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And obviously, this was on purpose because that's a great way to fortify something you wanna keep safe. Yeah. You know, the Iron Age people saw this and boom, it was built as a fort. That's awesome. They were like, this is a great way to keep people away from this.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Oh hell yeah, this place is cool. It's gorgeous. Now in 1093. I'm sorry, Walt. 1093 Queen Margaret, who is literally a saint now. Oh shit. It was born there. Oh shit. Yeah. The 10th century. Yes. That's so crazy to think that it has been seen so much life. So much. And it's been like transformed into what it is today.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Obviously, like it started as like a fort and all that. But the castle has been seized a lot and it's changed control a lot. Like in 1314, the Scots took it back from the English and actually according to the Edinburgh Castle website, it is the most besieged place in Britain. Oh wow. It has been attacked a lot. I mean, I get why people want it.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Like the attack it so they can have it. I mean, I want it. Also, I get 13, 14, or 14. 13, no big deal. The honors of Scotland, which are the oldest crown jewels in Britain are on display in the crown room here. There's also a stone of destiny on display that was used to inaugurate kings and queens
Starting point is 00:28:19 for literal centuries. Wow, I need to see this. I know I want to see all of this. Imagine seeing that in person and just being like, the people this has inaugurated. Right. Like that's wild. I would want to like touch it.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I know. I'm sure you can. I'm sure you would not agree. I want to look at it. In the 1650s, it became a military base most. Of course. Between 1757 onward, it was a place to house prisoners in the vaults.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Like it was a really secure place. Is that where all the hauntings come from? Yeah, that's a place to house prisoners in the vaults. Like, it was a really secure place. Is that where all the hauntings come from? Yeah, that's a lot of where the hauntings come from. It was very secure. It had like a reputation for being like, inescapable for a while. Because again, it had those craggy rocks all around it. It's very high up.
Starting point is 00:28:59 It's hard to get out of there. Even if you get out of the castle, where the fuck are you going? Down into the rocks. Yeah. No, we're good. But in 1811, the Great Escape happened. And it kind of shot that whole reputation into a...
Starting point is 00:29:13 I thought of that too. Gwen. Gwen is part of the history. No, no. No, Gwen Stefani is not part of this history, but it was in 1811, 49 French prisoners who were being housed here. They systematically chopped out a hole that is still there in the castle wall. You can still see the original hole they chopped out.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It's in a place referred to as the Devil's Elbow Rampart, and they escaped by going into this hole, 49 of them, and they lowered down onto the rocks. They had tied their washing lines together to make a long rope. That's pretty genius. Okay. One of them actually died though during this by falling onto the sharp rocks.
Starting point is 00:29:56 The rest of them, they got away, but they were all recaptured later. No, they went through all that for nothing. I know. And apparently you can still see that escape hole in the rock like they have kept it. captured later. No, they went through all that for nothing. I know. And apparently you can still see that escape hole in the rock like they have kept it. That's what I think would be so cool to see in person. There's also a pet cemetery there in the castle walls and it's like a dog cemetery essentially.
Starting point is 00:30:19 It's precious. Usually pet dogs are buried there that were from like soldiers of high regard and regimental mascots. And in fact, one ghost that is often seen at the castle is that of a black dog. And it's thought to be some soldiers' companion. That's like state around. I know. Now, some other ghosts that are seen at this castle, one of them is the Grey Lady. Oh, wait, there's always a Grey Lady or a White Lady. Exactly. You have to have a Grey Lady. You have to. This, they believe, it looks like a 16th century woman who appears to be of a noble background. That's what everybody says. She walks around the castle. She's either just wandering around sadly. It looks like, or she's crying, like a weeping. around sadly it looks like or she's crying, like weeping. Who could she be?
Starting point is 00:31:05 I don't know. So I went to this website called MercatTours. I'll link it in the show notes, because it was very interesting. They were the only ones that I, or at least the first ones I saw to give this idea of who this person could be. A lot of people think it's the second one that I'm going to talk about, and I kind of believed
Starting point is 00:31:24 that a little bit too, but this one's a really good theory. Like theory for who it could be. And it was just very interesting. So they think it could be Marie Degiece. Or like Marie Degiece. I can't say it, I'm not French. Marie Degiece.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Marie Degiece, oh France. She had quite the life. She was the mother of Mary Queen of Scots. Oh, yeah. All right, yeah, that one. So she, I feel like I've never even heard her name before. Well, when she was region for a long time, because Mary became queen, became queen of Scots when she was an infant. So she ruled for her daughter until she became of age. She had been married two times before she married James
Starting point is 00:32:02 the Fiss. She was married once when she was 19 to Louis of Orleans, Duke of Longville, but he died shortly after, and then like political moves had to be made as soon as that happened. So James the Fist's wife had just died and immediately was on the look out for a new lady because he needed a partner to rule Scotland. Yeah. So he asked Marie's father, Francis the first for her hand in marriage. This would be good because it would further tie up that alliance between Scotland and France for a little bit. I'm sure Marie was like, cool. Glad I can be of help everybody.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Well, I couldn't, you know what's confusing is like why wasn't she queen? Like why did her baby become queen before her? Well, that's because technically she came over from France and she like I think because James, the fifth ends up dying. So instead of her becoming queen, it would be his like air, air. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Like in a way, I'm sure I'm saying that wrong and I'm sorry, but like she had the right full claim to it. Okay. So meanwhile, as this is going on, so he asked for her hand, but meanwhile Henry the A, so that, that fucker. That's like, man. He was like, oh shit,
Starting point is 00:33:16 that alliance would not be a great thing for England. So I better throw my nasty ass hat in this ring and he asked for her hand as well. Oh shit. But France is the first. Her father was like, I'm going to go with James's offer for marriage and get that France Scotland thing rolling. Like, let's sew that up.
Starting point is 00:33:34 He also really liked his daughter's skull. Yeah, he just heard Bobby. I like her head there. Yeah. So he accepted that one on Marie's behalf, which I'm also like, this is this is great guys. So gross. So fun. I saw on a website called undiscovered Scotland that they were speculating
Starting point is 00:33:49 what would have changed historically if Marie had instead married Henry VIII. And I thought it was interesting a lot because Mary Queen of Scots went, wow, you'll, well, that's the thing. There would be no Mary Queen of Scots, right? And maybe, maybe she would have even like they were saying maybe what if she had a son with Henry VIII, right? And maybe, maybe she would have even, like, they were saying maybe what if she had a son with Henry VIII, right? Like an heir. Like, what, it's just strange to think about, like, something that's that one moment of him making that decision over that, a man making that decision for a woman, like, what history
Starting point is 00:34:19 would have been like. It's just very strange to think about. It is fascinating too. And it was a website called Undiscovered Scotland. It was just very strange to think about. It is fascinating too. And it was in a website called Undiscovered Scotland. It was very interesting to go through. So either way, James and Marie got married. They had a baby, Mary. And James ended up dying in 1542, which left Mary as the queen,
Starting point is 00:34:38 but Marie, to be regent, while Queen Mary was growing up. Learning not to shit her pants, kind of thing. Yeah. Because she was a literal infant. She was apparently a good ruler for the most part during her time as a region, but she was Catholic and during the Reformation going on, she was not in a great position there.
Starting point is 00:34:57 No, no. Pissed especially in Scotland. So she fought back against Protestant rule. This made her very unpopular with the Protestant population around her, obviously. She died in 1560 while in the process of fortifying Edinburgh Castle against English forces. She died of Dropsey, which now we would call Adema. Oh! Her limbs and stomach would swell up and she began having neurological issues because of it.
Starting point is 00:35:23 She wouldn't be able to speak or really do much at times, like it really ravaged her. What causes that? I don't know exactly, to be honest. It's like an inflammation of a collection of fluid that happens. Yeah, should have given her some fox glove. I know, I'm saying. There you go, we always bring it back.
Starting point is 00:35:41 But yeah, she was only 44 years old when she died of it. But that was like elderly. I know at that point, it's like, yeah, she was only 44 years old when she died of it. But that was like elderly. I know at that point, it's like, wow, she won a life. The gross part is though that she was kept in the castle for literally nine months after she died. Nine months. They put her body in a lead casket wrapped in wrapped her
Starting point is 00:36:00 to try to keep the smell out, but like you know that should stink. Dude, no wonder Mary had issues. And this was because she was going to be the smell out, but like you know that should stomp. Do you know Wonder Mary? Yeah, that is shoes. And this was because she was going to be buried in France, which was her original home, but the Reformation and Fighting was not allowing her Catholic body to safely be transported out of the fortified Edinburgh castle
Starting point is 00:36:19 and off to be buried. What a wild fucking time. Yeah. So she might be haunting the place as the great lady. Like, I'm like, that's a very good theory. Yeah, well, and if she's like wandering the halls crying, she's probably crying about the fact that her body wasn't buried for a month.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Exactly. And everything that happened with her daughter. Well, yeah. And at this time, like, her daughter was already shipped off to me. I mean, like, she was shipped off pretty early on to be married off somewhere. So like, she wasn't around for that, but like, still saying like, maybe she knows, like
Starting point is 00:36:47 her mother knows. Of course, of course. But people also think this gray lady is Janet Douglas, who she, which sounds like someone weirdly like Janet Douglas to me, sounds like somebody who like, like writes like bad Yelp reviews. Yes. A mine, doesn't it? Like 100%. Like I feel like I have heard a Janet Douglas tell me I swear too much. like writes like bad Yelp reviews. Yes. Yes. Doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:37:06 Like 100%. Like I feel like I have heard a Janet Douglas tell me I swear too much. Yeah, Janet Douglas sounds like she's your bitchy neighbor who like comes over to talk to you, but you hate her. But this Janet Douglas was nothing like that. Oh, she was ladyglamms. And she was, she got a raw deal. Oh no. Yeah, she got a real raw deal. She was done Glams. And she was, she got a raw deal.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Oh no. Yeah, she got a real raw deal. She was done very dirty. So year before James V married Marie in 1538, so this was in 1537, he was busy burning Janet Douglas, Lady Glams, who was a mother of four at the stake for witchcraft. Oh shit. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Between 1479 and 1722, over 2000, supposed witches were burned at the stake over there. Janet Douglas had been accused of witchcraft by a man named William Lyon, who was a jealous fuck. Oh, oh, I see. He was just someone who really liked Janet Douglas, but she rejected him. It's like when Daphne rejects that ugly-ass guy
Starting point is 00:38:07 in Bergerton who's like disgusting, and then he gets all jealous and gets a marriage license, fuck back there you go. So he literally accused her of witchcraft knowing she would burn alive for it because he was jealous. Wow, what an asshole. Talk about like Tiny Man syndrome.
Starting point is 00:38:22 For real. She was highly regarded as one of the great beauties of her time. She was like beyond. And the charge that she was given was that she was planning to poison King James the fifth and he was a paranoid fuck at the time and everyone knew it. So this was totally intentional. Like they knew that by claiming and accusing that she was going to poison King James,
Starting point is 00:38:48 that he was gonna go nuts. Of course. Like holy shit, like we have to burn them all. Right. And they were saying like she was gonna do it with like some witchcraft potion thing. So stupid. So William Lyons was related to her first husband,
Starting point is 00:39:00 John Lyons, and he was bros with the king. Like so he was really close with the King. The new, how paranoid he was. He could get in his ear too. So it also didn't help that King James had beef with the Douglas clan as a whole. Oh man. He always hated them and this was just something else to add to it.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So William even confessed on his own deathbed that it had all become, was because of jealousy. He confessed the whole, like I only did it at a spite. Tude. Somebody got burned at the stake because you were jealous. Oh yeah. And even worse, when the accusations rolled in about her, her family, friends, and staff were all tortured for confessions and like information and evidence about her.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So after some intense prodding, a lot of them made shit up and threw her under the bus just to stop whatever pain was being inflicted on them. Yeah, to save their own lives. So she was tortured as well, and it was written about her that quote, in the prime of her years of a singular beauty and suffering through all, through, though a woman with a man like courage. So apparently she, which I'm like, like a man like her. Yeah, that's annoying. she, which I'm like, like a manlike courage. Yeah, that's annoying. But also, I'm like, I get where you were trying to say back then, that was apparently a compliment back then.
Starting point is 00:40:12 She was burned at the stake outside of Edinburgh Castle on July 17, 1537, in front of her 16 year old son who was literally forced by King James, the fifth to watch the entire thing. He had to watch him, his mother, be burned at the stake. Things were beyond fact then, like beyond. Yeah. And after this, her husband, who was like,
Starting point is 00:40:35 I think is like Archibald, I think is named like Archie, he tried to escape from Edinburgh Castle because he was a prisoner there, by using bedsheets to climb from the window, but he fell to his death on to the rocks below. Her daughters were sent to a nunnery, and her son was sentenced to be quartered and beheaded. Why?
Starting point is 00:40:56 Because they were like, we don't want the Douglas clan to continue. They just didn't want them to seek vengeance. So, we're yet they didn't want any of that revenge shit happening. They didn't want any of it to continue. They're like, let's get rid of them all. Let's just wipe out an entire family. So, maybe the great lady could be her as well. Both her sound like great candidates to me. They really do because people also, there's like legend that says like that Janet Douglas rose from the gray ashes around her to become what she is now.
Starting point is 00:41:26 That's great lady. That's why she's the great lady. Well, she was one of the great beauties of her time. And was it Martha? Margaret? How's it going, Martha? The Mary's mom? Marie.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Marie, okay, cool. And the M names. You were there. But she must have been recognizable because she was regent for a little while. And then Janet was a great beauty. So I'm like, okay, like let's, somebody do a sketch of this one.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah, let's see who this lady is. Let's see. Well, and people also said that the day she was burned at the stake, Scotland had a very heavy gray mist that fell over it. Oh, it's Janet. Don't even say like it's Janet. Put your pencil down, it's Janet.
Starting point is 00:42:02 No, the gray lady can be seen sitting, like walking around like I said, pencil down, it's Janet. No, the gray lady can be seen sitting, like walking around, like I said, very sad, very like solemn. She's also can be seen sitting in the castle chapel and praying, and people believe that she's praying for those who have wronged her. Oh, what a big person. Like what a do-person.
Starting point is 00:42:19 People also hear hammering when she is around randomly, and it's thought that this was the, like, just, like some kind of like, I don't know what the word is. Like something that is just like still there, some like, what is the fun? Oh. Residual. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I was, that was gonna bother me. I don't know what it is today. I, this has happened to me a couple of times today where I can't think of a word. Yeah. But the letter will just repeat in my head and I was going, are. Me too. I was like,
Starting point is 00:42:45 if it begins with are, what am I thinking of? Some residual, like, sounds and haunting of workmen putting together this scaffolding where she was burned alive. Oh, or you said that Marie was overseeing like the fortifying of the castle. So that could also be that.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Exactly, it works for both. Now, some other ghosts that are part of Edinburgh castle. There's a ghost of a man who tries to push visitors off the tops of the castle. That's where the battlements are. So apparently one of the prisoners tried, like, because again, there were so many prisoners of war in here, they were tortured horrifically, like,
Starting point is 00:43:21 you know, shit goes down. One of these prisoners. He tried to escape from torture, and he was like, I'm not gonna try to jump out the window, because I feel like I'm just gonna land on the rocks and die. Yeah, you will. So he was like, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna hide in a dung-filled, filled wheelbarrow.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Oh, poor guy. You know, this was dung from everything, including humans. Every human dung. All the things. All the dung. But he wanted to get out and he was like, no one's gonna look for me in there.
Starting point is 00:43:47 And he was thinking, so he was in the prison or latrines. That's where he was able to climb into the done part. He was thinking, cool. They will bring me somewhere. They'll tip me out. Wherever they tip out the done barrels, they'll tip me out. I'll fall into more poop and I'll be on my way.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Oh, no, they sounds like a legit, I know. What's gonna happen. What he didn't know was that the wheelbarrow was not gonna be like, they're not just gonna like dump you into the woods or in a garden or something like that. Instead, they just tipped it over the parapets that are on the top of the castle. He went falling into the rocks,
Starting point is 00:44:20 dying a pretty gruesome death. So like, that's horrible, but it was probably like a quick end to a ton of other horrible things that he had already done to him. Probably. You would hope so. Now apparently visitors will smell dung
Starting point is 00:44:35 when he's around and will feel like they're being pushed on their own hands. Oh man. Yeah. Which I'm like, dude, like don't push people. Maybe that's residual. It might be. Just it's not over. Over and over.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So Edinburgh Castle is very big. Yeah, as you can see when you're at it. Now, there's tons of tunnels underneath it. And apparently there were times when new people would come in in different centuries. And this was a long time ago. And they would take it over and they wouldn't even know the various passages around it. At one time, these people, like a whole group that was in there,
Starting point is 00:45:09 found a hidden passageway beneath the dungeons, and they wanted to map it out. So they got a young boy to go down there alone. No. And play his bagpipes as he walked so that they could walk above him on the streets and map it out from the sounds. Okay. Was there no adults that could have done so? Well, that's the thing. He was small and the tunnel was pretty small. Oh, yeah. So he was really, he was chosen that way. And he was like, yeah, I'll go down there and play the bagpipes, why not? So they told them, play as loud as possible so we can hear you,
Starting point is 00:45:39 we'll follow you, and then, you know, we'll lead you back out. Well, apparently halfway down the Royal Mile, which is what leads up to Edinburgh Castle. I love it. In front of the Tron Kirk, which is a beautiful historical building with a gorgeous spire on top. The sounds stopped out of nowhere. So they went down there and they're like, what the fuck happened? They went down there. They couldn't find him anywhere. What? Couldn't find him, he just disappeared. No, he didn't. Apparently a massive search was launched,
Starting point is 00:46:10 they found nothing. No bagpipes, no kid. They freaked the fuck out. So the city council ordered that they seal the tunnel off with bricks. They were like, they were like, we don't know what the fuck is in there. So let's forget about it.
Starting point is 00:46:24 They also love that they were like, here's the solution. fuck is in there. So let's forget about it. We also love that they were like, here's the solution. Lock him in there forever. Yeah. We don't know where he is, but like, just can't find a place off. And they did, they sealed it off. That should have sealed off.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And people now say that even now, they will hear like faint bagpipes beneath them while rock walking on that room. Wow. Ro Spooky. How spooky is that? Oh, that would make me so sad. I know.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I know. Oh, that was a little bit of... Well, and there's also a headless drummer boy that people have seen. Why is he headless? Well, don't worry, because he has... The last time he was like officially seen was in 1650. Mm. By servants at the castle, they saw him drumming without a noggin
Starting point is 00:47:05 in the courtyard of the castle. And then soon after the castle, after they saw this, the castle was under attack by Oliver Cromwell, right after this. So no one knows who he is or where exactly he came from, but obviously he was like a military drummer boy, and he was beheaded as it appears. So now it's seen as a bad omen.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And they say if he shows up again some shit is about to go down at the castle. That's scary. He hasn't been seen again that we know of, but like basically anybody that would have seen him the last time the castle was besieged, which was in like the 1700s I believe. Everyone's dead now from that. So even if people saw him before that, we don't know. Right. So nobody's seen him since then because it hasn't been beseuged since then.
Starting point is 00:47:53 But hopefully it will not again. I know. But still, that's really scary. And people still hear drumming sounds at night sometimes. Oh, that creeps just like coming from the courtyard, almost like military drumming. But you don't want to see this headless kid drumming from I feel like a myriad of reasons. I don't want to see it at all. That was really weird because I
Starting point is 00:48:13 just took a breath to say for a myriad of reasons. There's so many reasons not to see this kid. One, you don't want to see a headless kid drumming and ashes blowing up right now. Sorry. But one, you don't want to see a headless kid drumming, and Ash is blowing up right now. Sorry. But, but when you don't want to see a headless kid drumming and two, it's a bad fucking omen. Yeah, of course it is. We don't want it. Scary.
Starting point is 00:48:35 So that's just like the tip of the iceberg of Edberg Castle, I feel like I feel like I could probably go back into it. Maybe I will, at some point. Do it. Because Ed and Brett's like full of shit. Gave me like Mary King's close fives. That was one of my favorite things to research. That was one of my favorite things to listen to
Starting point is 00:48:51 after you researched it. That one blew my brain apart. I loved that one. That place is Hylz. Hylz. Actually, somebody sent us something from there recently. Oh yes! Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:49:04 The way that it was literally in front of me on this table. It was right in front of us. We had like a stack of mail from the PO box and this came with it. It's this really cool, like wood. I know, like postcard. And it has a plague doctor on the front. It says Mary King's Close.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And it's like a little postcard that got sent to us from Lindsay and Michaela after a week in Edinburgh, Scotland. Oh, so jealous. Oh my gosh, oh, they have pictures. I'm gonna go look at them after. That's awesome. But thank you for sending that because we fucking love it.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I know, we're gonna hang this up on our wall. We are. We are. We really are. So thank you guys. Cool. And bra. And bra.
Starting point is 00:49:40 That was really fascinating. Thank you. All right, so my next one is, was it Huska? No, it was Huska. It was Huska. I'm not gonna tell you how I remembered that. Yeah, but it was really fascinated. Thank you. All right, so my next one is, was it Huska? No, it was Huska. It was Huska. I'm not gonna tell you how I remembered that. Yeah, but it was Huska. And it is in the Czech Republic.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Hell yeah. And so we're going over there. We are, we're going over. I'm asking you to please bring your sage. I've got it, we've got a candle, sacred sage candle right there. You, you, me, like Elena. Like I'm pointing at her.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You are going to be obsessed. You're going to want to go here. Let's go. Okay. So, who's good castle? No, damn it. Hostica. So, the thing is, and I'm going to just be upfront
Starting point is 00:50:15 and honest with everybody, I'm a big fan of the teen mom franchise on television, and I love Chelsea Huska. Maybe that's not even how you say her last name. Maybe. I thought it was, but anyways, maybe it's Hostica. So, that's why I was Chelsea Huska. Maybe that's not even how you say her last name. Maybe, I thought it was, but anyways, maybe it's Huska. So that's why I was saying Huska, but Huska Castle was constructed sometime in the 13th century, around 1253, 1278.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Nobody's really sure. Okay. It's about an hour north of Prague, and it was built on the edge of a limestone cliff, Oh, hell yeah. So the area itself, even today, it's a very remote area. There's like swamps and mountains and tons of woods surrounding this place.
Starting point is 00:50:52 And back in the 13th century, there really would have been no reason to build a castle in the first place here because it was really so far out of the way of like anything. Yeah, there was not even like a water source nearby so that it could have running water. But the king at the time, I believe it's Otaqar, the second of Bohemia.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Oh, yeah. He said that he was using the building for administrative work. I feel like that's not true. Yeah, I don't think so either. A lot of people have questioned the certitude of that. Instead, they think it has something to do with a giant, potentially bottomless hole
Starting point is 00:51:31 that was found in this area. And they think that that hole maybe is a portal to hell. Fuck yeah. Yeah. And I'm also pretty sure that it is indeed. You gotta have a portal to hell. I'll put these places. is indeed. You gotta have a portal to hell. In these places.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Yeah, I was waiting for a portal to hell. Oh, get ready. Hell mouth. So, yes. Fuck yes. Where are my buffy heads at? Right here. Right here.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm a new buffy head. Hell yeah, you are. So, I don't know. I've only watched the first episode. Yeah. So there's a few oddities when it comes to the castle itself. For one thing, the way that it was built, it makes it seem like the intent was to keep something inside. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Versus being built as like a, like usually, castles are built for protection. Yeah. This one seemed like the protection aspects were inside. Ooh, okay. It was like, what? I love that. When it was first built, there were no stairs going from the courtyard to any higher level floor. Oh. And looking from the courtyard to any higher level floor.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And looking from the outside, it turns out that some of the windows are fake. Like you'll see windowpains, but then you look closer and you realize that there's just a wall behind there. Whoa. Yeah. There's also, like I said, no running water, no water source at all, and there was no kitchen. So if the king claimed that he was using this place for administrative purposes, that was pretty weird because nobody ever saw him there.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Huh. Now, when he decided, He didn't even know. It's like a really creepy place. Like it looks creepy. So when he decided to construct a chapel right over that giant hole in the floor after completely sealing up said hole,
Starting point is 00:53:02 that only raised eyebrows more. So, and then the chapel was dedicated to the Archangel Michael, and not only added fuel to the fire, because Archangel Michael is known as the angel who led God's armies against Satan and the fallen angels. Obviously. So people were like,
Starting point is 00:53:20 you're covering up this whole that we all think is a porto de hell, you're putting a chapel over it, and then you're dedicating it to the guy who like won the battle against Satan. Seems, seems to all add up. I feel like you're telling us everything we need to know. Yeah, I feel like you're not bearing the lead at all. No. Now, even dating back to the sixth century, people have been talking about this place, this bottomless hole, and what possibly lurks beneath it.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Now back then, obviously before the castle was built, there was just this small structure built over the hole, and the people who knew of it that lived in that town, they would literally take like different longer routes to wherever they were going, so that they didn't have to be anywhere near this area. Whoa. They were especially cautious, obviously, about being in the area at night, because they thought that whatever was lurking in that hole would come out at night and cause mischief for death. You know, yeah. I like mischief or death.
Starting point is 00:54:18 You know, like nothing in between. Just, it's gonna, just toilet paper some trees or slit your throat. I was just gonna, just toilet paper some trees or slit your throat. I was just gonna say that. It's gonna like, it's gonna paper towel your fucking trees. So it's gonna absolutely shred you to pieces. Correct.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Nothing in between. What is in between those two things? I don't know. I don't know. I said paper towel too. Did you like that? You did. I let it go.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Yeah, I appreciate that. You let it go. You know, my brain's a little foggy right now, because you saved a child's life. Yeah. Now, there were all kinds of thoughts about what lived inside. Some people thought that there were like flying demons
Starting point is 00:54:54 with these huge black wings, like the Linus friends. Yeah. And others thought that there were creatures down there that were half human and half animal. Ooh. Yes. Now either way. Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 00:55:05 One thing was for sure. These creatures were associated with the devil and were 100% some kind of demon that nobody wanted to run into in the daylight, never mind in the pitch black night. And they just played metal music. Yeah, they were like, deer in an an anion.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I was like, I don't really have a reference. I think it's like Henry on last podcast on the left that like any time they talk about an axe, he always just like that. Damn it, it's hilarious. It's amazing. So everybody also was very worried that if they did meet one of these crazy creatures, somehow they would end up inside this mysterious dark hole. Yeah, I understand that.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Now, before the king had the whole sealed up, he really wanted to know what was inside. And he decided that the best way of doing so would be using the prisoners. Yeah. I mean, what else did they do? And, you know, the being tortured. Yeah. So let's just torture them in a different way.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Throw them down a bottomless pit to hell. Yeah. He said, if they were willing to be lowered into this whole, take a look around and maybe report back about their findings. Definitely report back. Then they would be given a full pardon no matter what crime they committed. Okay. Murder someone. It's fine. You just got to go in this hole and tell me what you see. Just go in the hell hole. It's like a pitch black hole. How'd they see anything? They bring a candle
Starting point is 00:56:21 down there. Maybe. Wouldn't it go out lantern lantern of some sort. A little lantern, yeah. All right, you know, it could have been really dangerous. Extrordnarily dangerous, and nothing about this is safe. No. Because also how are they lowering them down? I don't think they had like sophisticated mountain climbing equipment here. They didn't.
Starting point is 00:56:38 It was just like a rope. It was. It was, that's exactly what it was. Just like a gnarly shredded old rope. Yeah. And like some hopefully strong dudes. And some hope that's exactly what it was. Just like a gnarly shredded old rope. Yeah. Yup. And like some hopefully strong dudes. And some hope.
Starting point is 00:56:48 And some hope. Yeah. We used to hope. And a prayer. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, definitely a prayer. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:56:56 So legend has it that the only man who was brave enough to be lowered down into this fucking devil's demon den. I love an eliteration. Yeah, that's a great band name. Devil's demon den. Great band name. I'll call it. I don't know. That's a great band name. Devil's Demon Dend. Great band name. I don't know why I knocked on wood. You know what, it felt great.
Starting point is 00:57:10 So they're lowering him down and he starts screaming bloody murder as soon as he gets even a little bit inside. And as he got lower and lower, the screams muffled, but they were still there. And the other thing that seemed to be there was no end. Like they just kept lowering him and lowering him and lowering him.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And eventually the rope that he was being lowered with just ran out of any more line. And he had to be brought back up to where he got brought back up. Oh, he did, all right. Now he screamed as it's less muffly as he started to come back up. It's like, I've just picture him. It's like the entire way. The whole entire way. Sorry if I hurt your ears.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Now he didn't even stop screaming when he came out of it. He just kept on screaming. And then the looks on other people's faces around him, maybe they started screaming too. They must have been horrified. And just started screaming. Not only because this guy's screaming bloody murder, but because he seems to have aged about 30 years, oh. They pulled him up.
Starting point is 00:58:15 When he brought, when he was back up, they were like, what the fuck? He was a young guy going down, but when he re-emerged, all of his hair was white, and all of his skin was like entirely wrinkled. Like he looked like an old man. What? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:31 He'd been gym and buttoned and reversed. The way that I was just gonna say, Oh! So when asked what he saw down there, he paused his screams for a moment and he said that he saw half men and half human beasts. I mean, that'd be kind of cool. Of course it would. and he said that he saw half men and half human beasts. I mean, that'd be kind of cool. Of course it would. Okay, thank you, because I was like, I'd be like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Like, I don't know if I would scream, but I just like, whoa, that's so darkly. Well, he screamed a lot. He actually could not stop screaming. He paused for a second to say half man, half human beast started screaming again. The up screaming. And was quickly admitted into an asylum.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And he saw that coming. Died two days later of completely unknown causes, probably because no modern medicine, but maybe because demons. Probably because the ancient of it all, but like, yeah, man, so he got lowered down there. I mean, you get lowered down there. You see some like gnarly half-man half-fanimal demons. Oh man, so he got lowered down there. I mean, you get lowered down there. You see some like gnarly half man, half animal demons. And then you come up and it's like gone.
Starting point is 00:59:31 You don't even get to tell that tale later. Then first you have to go to an asylum and die two days later. I know. Because that's like your two truths and a lie forever. If you live. Yeah. Why are we referencing two truths?
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah, I saw a lot. So much lately. But that really is but that's like yes You can be like one time I got lowered down to a bottomless pit to hell and I saw half man half animal demons I'm gonna use that for my next two Two try As the lie, but I'm also gonna have to come up with like set some wild truth Yeah, which I'm I definitely have because I'm a wild bitch, but you're a wild bitch Wild bitch where wild couple of thatches.
Starting point is 01:00:07 That's like, wow. I know, right? Wow. I wanted to play two truths and a lie with somebody that doesn't really know me. So I know. I know. I know. Just so I can say it.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I also wish that I had like an iPhone that he could have snapped a little, little piggy pick. What a wish for the, for the 13th century. What a wish for the 13th century. What a wish. So, because they see the cheese. Because the new iPhone takes sick pictures in the dark. And that's about it.
Starting point is 01:00:33 That would have been great. The new iPhone sucks other than that. But like when in the dark, we would have gotten pictures that would have been on those billboards in Boston. They'd taken with an iPhone. And it would have just been like, Max, half animal demons throwing up a piece sign.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Yeah, just like, ranging down there. Throwing up a rock on the board. Yeah, I love it. I love it. I go rock on signs. I'm like, I'm not doing love on doing rock on signs. Rock on signs. Those are double horns. Yeah, the double horns. That's that's like rock on signs. Rock on signs. Those are devil horns.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yeah, the devil horns. That's like really what they are. Never again, never again. I wish that was on video. Elena just put the binder head in like stuck her tongue out and it was like really wild. Or fine, yes. So for most of the time that Hoska Castle has been around,
Starting point is 01:01:21 nobody's really lived inside for too long because you know, devil demon den. Yeah, like bottautable Spital. Yeah, but back in the 17th century, around 1639, a man named Aronto moved in. I just want to let you know that historians have also disproved this, but I'm still going to tell it to them. You get a lot of those. I know, they're coming for me. They are. So he was apparently from Sweden, but maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe not. And he was very into potions and elixirs and just all kinds of stuff that would have been considered incredibly dark magic back then.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Same dude. Now when he moved into Hoska Castle, it said that he would spend all night inside experimenting and trying to create some kind of potion to give people eternal life, i.e. tuck-ever-lasting. Yes. Now, the villagers in the nearby areas were losing their shit about this guy because they were so struck with fear
Starting point is 01:02:11 that all this witchcraft was going down anyways. But the fact that it was going down in Huska Castle only terrified them more. Of course. Because they were like, what if something goes wrong and it involves demons and then they're gonna infiltrate our villages and then the world as we know it is gonna be over. Yeah, I mean, like when people are fucking around with dark
Starting point is 01:02:28 magic around a bottomless hell pit, like I can understand why people are like that feels like the wrong environment to do it in. Yeah, so like things could come out of there, I feel. Yeah, like calm down around. Yeah, but I'm in a new place. Instead of just like chatting with him, you know, working through that, like you wouldn't talk therapy Telling him about local office spaces for rent that he could do his dark work. Yeah, sign him up for indeed Yeah, I think that's where you find a babysitter. I think indeed is where you find a job actually. Okay, so he instead of going on there There you go and chatting with him and maybe asking him to cease that potion mixing No, they sent two hunters out to the castle
Starting point is 01:03:05 and had him assassinated like boom. Wow, like what it, that feels like a very intense reaction. They were not fucking around. But disproportionate response, I feel. And they really weren't fucking around because historians have said that they weren't fucking around, but so like that didn't happen. Fun tale, it is a fun tale.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah, there you go. Now the rest of the shit really did happen. So from then on, it seems as that didn't happen. Fun tale. It is a fun tale. Yeah, there you go. Now the rest of the shit really did happen. So from then on, it seems as if the castle was pretty much abandoned. Nobody wanted anything to do with it until about 1923 when it was restored by a man named I think it's Yosif Simoneck. I like it. Yeah, his family are actually still the owners as of today, but it's unclear if he ever lived
Starting point is 01:03:44 there or if he simply owned the property. Now, weird that World War II was a part of both of my stories, but World War II broke out, and the castle was not inhabited by Joseph, or excuse me, Joseph, but instead a much darker force. The, I think it's called Vermocht,
Starting point is 01:04:01 which is the German military, which was riddled with Nazis during this time. Riddled. So it said that the Nazis would, so they like siege this castle, and it said that they would do all kinds of experiments on people, oh, specifically women, while they were inside the walls of the castle.
Starting point is 01:04:20 And rumors have circulated over the years that women who the Nazis considered part of the master race. So like, you know, they were brought to the castle. That's a thing. Yeah, absolutely fucking disgusting. They were brought to the castle so that they could aid in the continuation of the master race. Oh.
Starting point is 01:04:38 So like the Nazi soldiers were impregnating them to have children. Oh my God. And like this, like it was happening all the time. That is so dark. And this is something that definitely took place at other different SS locations. So it's not unlikely that Husqa Castle could have been one of these
Starting point is 01:04:54 and they're referred to as breeding farms, which is so horrific. But obviously, it makes sense, none of it makes sense, but it makes sense that they would want to use a place like that because it's so secluded. Yeah, and nobody wants to go there. Right. So nobody's going to be just like knocking on the door randomly. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:12 So the Nazis use to post a castle was actually said to be Heinrich Himmler's idea. Oh, Himmler for those who are not familiar and like, bless you that you're not familiar with this man. He was Adolf Hitler's right hand man, and also the leader of the SS. Now, he's been described as an, quote-unquote, architect of terror by the National World War II Museum, which by the way is in New Orleans. Oh, I actually did not know that.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Neither did I. Which is like really sad, but I know we should know that. Wow, absolutely, but that's very good to know. I would love to go there. Yeah. Now, him or he was very into the occult. So, of course, he would know about Hoska Castle. And he believed that the castle would make the Nazi stronger
Starting point is 01:05:53 because it would allow them to quote unquote, harness the power of hell. Like what the whole thing, I can't even. Which they did. I was just gonna say that's exactly what they did. So, and he also thought that it would be a good hiding place for his 13,000 manuscript library. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:06:13 So people who lived nearby when the Nazis had taken over the castle, they reported hearing strange lights and horrifying sounds coming from the area constantly. Now, obviously with its entire dark history, this place is haunted as fuck, and haunted more than just the beast that occupied that hole. Yeah. It's haunted by actual beasts that walked the earth, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Yeah. And like the darkest of all dark energy and vibes. Yes. Yeah. Precisely. So since the castle was first open to the public in 1999, people have the had tons of paranormal sightings. They felt incredibly uneasy during their visit, or they've had experiences after visiting
Starting point is 01:06:54 that led them to believe that they were either cursed or that the building gave them some kind of bad luck. Oh, shit. Those are the things that always scare the shit out of me. When things can like attach to a castle. It's like a statue-use, yeah. So for one thing, to this day, people will still report hearing screaming noises,
Starting point is 01:07:09 coming from the hole, even though it's been sealed. They will even hear scratching sounds, like on the where it's been sealed off, like the demons are just trying to escape with their acrylics. Oh, with their acrylics. No, with their acrylics. With their acrylics, with their acrylics. No, with their acrylics. With their acrylics, because always, of course, demons have a acrylics.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Oh, my God, of course they do. And the screams are said to echo out into all areas around the castle, too. So like anybody who's nearby, they report hearing, it's always written down. It's always written down as an orchestra of screams. I need to hear the orchestra of demon screams. I knew that you were gonna wanna go here.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Oh my god. Now the artwork inside the castle only freaks people out even more. And most of the paintings are really macabre, but there's one that stands out the most to the visitors and theme of the day, historians, who have studied the castle. There we go.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Now the main focus of this particular painting is a woman whose upper half is human, but her lower half is horse, like a centaur. Okay. Centaur? Yeah, right? Centaur. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Now we know Centaur is from Greek mythology, but at this time, the painting, at the time that the painting was created, it wasn't typical for artists to use mythology as inspiration, like it would have been taboo back then. Oh, okay. Now, another detail that leaves people like really confused and uneasy about the painting is that the centaur is shooting an arrow, but using its left hand to do so.
Starting point is 01:08:37 And back then, I wasn't sure a lot of you know, being left-handed was the mark of the beast, like one of the marks, and probably meant that you were working with the dude. Still means that. Of course it does. If you're left-handed, you're working with the devil. Sorry to tell you. Sorry, do you know any left-handed people? I do.
Starting point is 01:08:54 I know left-handed people. Cool, I don't think I know. I'm a second name one right now, but I'm a left-handed person. I definitely know some. Watch, I probably have a left-handed friend and they're gonna text me like, cool, asshole. You're real nice. I'm sorry that the world isn't made for you, left-handers.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Like, that was so. I know, you're, oh, yeah. You're real nice. I'm sorry that the world isn't made for you, left handers, like, that was suck. I know you're, oh, yeah. You're always like smearing your paper and like all that stuff. It's like desks are made, like, I feel like it's just, must be annoying. Yeah, it is. Oh, scissors too.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Sorry, like, I didn't do it, but like, I feel bad. Sorry that Satan fucked you over. Yeah, it's really bullshit. But historians believe that the painting is almost like a warning or a not-so-subtle hint about what lurks beneath the castle. Mm-hmm. Makes sense.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Say, go. You know, they're like, ooh, look at this painting. We'll look at this painting. Figure it out. I feel it. People have also seen a head-list ghost who has said to really enjoy promenading around the courtyard.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Oh, love that. Which would be like alarming but also cute. Yeah. If it weren't for the blood that constantly gushes out of his neck wound. Oh, I have a bloody ghost in my next one too. Oh, you do, I love it. So also kind of weird that he enjoys a courtyard stroll
Starting point is 01:09:54 because the courtyard is said to be constantly full of dead birds to this day. Okay, to this day. Okay. And then I also read about a woman and her partner who own a ghost touring business called McGee's Ghost Tours. Hell yeah, it's in Prague,
Starting point is 01:10:08 if we have any Prague listeners that wanna go. I always wanna Prague. Now they decided to go out and take a peek about the castle to see what all these rumblings were about. Hell yeah. And he feel like they probably regretted that decision afterwards and during. So the two owners, Hannah and Tyler,
Starting point is 01:10:21 they brought their dogs along for their tour and immediately when they got to the courtyard. Like a lot of hauntings are associated with the courtyard. Their dogs started losing their shit. Oh no. They were barking, they were whining, but to the human eye, there was really nothing that should have provoked such a big reaction. Yeah. And as soon as Hannah got to the courtyard, even before the dog started barking, she said she felt a feeling of unease. Now, for Tyler, it wasn't just the courtyard that made him uncomfortable. He said that he felt like they had been being watched throughout the entire tour.
Starting point is 01:10:57 He described it as being watched by a predatory being. Oh. Isn't that so fucking creepy? Oh, I don't like that at all. I don't either. And unfortunately, the shitty feelings did not end when the tour did. So later that night, Hannah and Tyler had a ghost tour that they were doing back in Prague.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And they parked their car that night and then, you know, made their way to the ghost tour location. But when they came back, their car was gone. And the police were luckily able to track it down a few hours later. But when they did, everything of value in their car had been stolen, and whoever had stolen everything left it like trashed. Which could be a weird coincidence, but... But like bad vibes all around. Bad vibes. Just bad vibes. And other people who have gone to visit the castle have car troubles when they're trying to leave.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Their car simply will not start in the general vicinity of this building. And some people claim to have seen come some kind of animal lurking in the woods nearby and I'm gonna leave you on this. It's a frog, human, and a dog. Frog, human, dog. It's a cross between a frog human and a dog,
Starting point is 01:12:06 and I need somebody to also draw that. Like, and they don't tell you like what pieces of which. No. No? Nobody knows what it looks like. I gotta know which pieces of which, because I'm picturing like a frog head. No.
Starting point is 01:12:20 People are saying just a cross between a human, a giant frog, and a dog. And I think specifically a bulldog. Ooh. Okay, so maybe a dog face. Yeah, because that's how you would... And a human torso with frog legs. But it says giant frogs.
Starting point is 01:12:34 So I would think like giant frog legs. Oh! Yeah, right, that's like fucked. That's nasty. Or maybe even just like a frog body with like human arms or something. Frog body, human legs, dog head. Oh. Just somebody draw few variations.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Somebody made it. I need an artist rendering. That is horrifying. Yeah, I want to go to Huska Castle. So I really want to go to Huska Castle. Huska Castle. It's not Chelsea Huska's castle. No, it is not.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I want to go there. The vibes seem very scary, but I need to see that sealed up pit to hell. The vibes seem both scary and immaculate. Yeah, for people. Like in different ways. People like you. Yeah. Like it's the Nazi stuff that really like, that's the stuff that like throws those vibes away
Starting point is 01:13:15 into like the real bullshit realm. Very much so. Like I don't want to be a part of, but like I just want to see that pit to hell. Yeah, yeah. Like I just want to see that. That's why I would go there. Exactly. It's the Nazi stuff that I'm like, I don't honestly, honestly, I, I just want to see that pit to hell. Yeah, yeah. I just want to see that. That's why I would go there. Exactly, it's the Nazi stuff that I'm like, I don't honestly, I don't know if I would be able to go there.
Starting point is 01:13:31 That's a thing, I feel like it would be so fucking heavy. Just because of that, Nazi shit. Yes. I, like that would, I feel like that kind of energy is like, in like, not like just like just Nazis because that's disgusting and horrifying in its own, but like the leader of the Nazis right and that's real rough.
Starting point is 01:13:52 So if you've ever been there, let us know. Seriously. I'd like to know. Give us some listener tails. And then the next time we do one of these, we can start off with some listener tails about the last one. Exactly, because that's been kind of fun
Starting point is 01:14:02 to do with the lighthouse's. So wow, thank you for Hostica Castle. Absolutely. Well, my final one, and we'll end this on, is going to be Glamis Castle. Ooh, or Glamis. I was gonna say it's Glamis. It's spelled Glamis.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Now, you might remember this like, wait a second, you said Glamis in the last one. I remember. Well, we were talking about Janet Douglas lady gloms She this is actually her castle. She moon lights in both of these castles as a great lady What yeah, you know like she's like she's a hustler like she doesn't just do one job. She does She is she's a hustler baby and She's a hustler baby. And that's, yep, that's me.
Starting point is 01:14:47 So you're hustler baby? No, like that's me how I say, like I can't say in a cool way. Is what I meant. Okay, I thought you said it. Like you say it in a cool way, I cannot. Oh, I feel like we're saying it the same. I love that. I think you're so cool.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I think you're so cool. Rock on. So this is, we're going to move to, this is another Scottish castle. Lady Gloms, it's her castle. I can't believe she had a whole last castle and that's what they did to her. I'm saying. Now, Gloms is located in Angus, Scotland from what I could see and it was home to the Lyons family since the 14th century.
Starting point is 01:15:22 It's seen some shit. I bet. In fact, the 13th Earl of Strathmore died in 1904, and he is said to have told a friend that the true secret of Glam's castle was so horrifying that if he shared it with anyone, if he shared it with him, it would take him down to his knees thanking everything that it wasn't his secret. But he never said what the secret was. Imagine if it was that Janet was a witch. It's just that Janet is a fucking bitch.
Starting point is 01:15:52 No, I don't think that would take you to your knees. No, I had something like way more horrifying. I need to know. Now, like I said, this was Janet Douglas's home when she was burned at the stake in front of Edinburgh Castle. Right. This castle was also the childhood home to Queen Elizabeth, and it always had an Earl of Strathmore all up in it.
Starting point is 01:16:10 All up in it. A bunch of Earl's of Strathmore. Earl is such a funny name. I know the Earl. I know the Earl. I know, right? Apparently the castle was supposed to be built originally on some hill nearby, where it actually stands.
Starting point is 01:16:24 And when the people constructing it arrived to build, their supplies every morning would be broken and scattered everywhere. And legend says one of them heard a booming voice that said, build not on this enchanted spot where man have to neither part nor lot, but build down in Yonderbog. Where it will neither shake nor shog. I love that he said, let me just do some spoken word poetry today to get you the fuck off this hill. I'm so upset with you because you had a beautiful,
Starting point is 01:16:57 beautiful opportunity right now to say, to get the hell away. Oh, yeah, that would have been better. Yeah, I was not, yeah, I wasn't thinking. You weren't in a place of spoken word history. I was in a place of rhyme, but you know, they moved it. They moved down to Yonder Bogg. Moral of the story.
Starting point is 01:17:14 They moved it. They moved to Yonder Bogg where it stands today. So people think that like that initial like, ooh, some shit was going down here even before it was built. Yeah. So Janet Douglas is obviously said to Haunt here. Like I said, she moonlights, like if she is the gray lady at Edinburgh Castle, which I could definitely see. Yeah. At least she's one of the gray ladies, maybe they're both there. Maybe she's all of the gray ladies. She might be all. There's
Starting point is 01:17:39 a lot of them. There is, and maybe she's every single one. But she also uses the chapel in this castle to pray for those fucks who wronged her as well. She also just walks around weeping. It's now customary to knock three times before entering to let the Grey Lady know that you have arrived or that you want some pie. There you go.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Now, Alexander Lindsay, which is the fourth Earl of Crawford, AKA Earl Beardy. Oh, don't know where that came from. Okay, maybe he had a nice beard. Maybe he said to Haunt this place, and he's a real cad, this one. He was apparently like kind of a dick, and he was also like a nasty gambler in his day.
Starting point is 01:18:19 And one night it said he refused to stop playing cards, even though it was the gosh darn Sabbath the next morning. Oh, that's like blasphemy. They were like, you to stop playing cards, even though it was the gosh darn Sabbath the next morning. Oh, that's like blasphemy. Yeah, and they were like, you gotta stop playing cards. The sun is coming up, it's gonna be the Sabbath. And he said, he was gonna keep partying, he was gonna keep playing these cards, even quote, if it was with the devil himself.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I mean, that is pretty badass. Very metal. Ask me. Well, apparently someone showed up to play, and people believe this was the devil himself in disguise that he played cards with the Temple said you should have just called me. He was like I was ready to play a card game beauty Well, he lost his damn soul that night in the shitty card game So there's that probably gambled it off he probably did people hear him still playing cards
Starting point is 01:19:00 They'll hear the shuffling and dice and hear him him causing a ruckus, like swearing and shit in another room. He's just like a ruck, he's like a wreck. I'll like and think of right now as the song about selling your soul to the devil. Like, yes. Like, yeah. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:19:15 But people also will see him at night, which is not cool, and like, especially children will wake up. Oh. If they're staying there and they'll see his dumb face, and he's wearing like a full suit of armor and he just leans over them and stairs at them while they're in bed.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Do you think he's like checking on them or do you think he's like a real kid? He's a cat. Like he was not a cool guy. That's gross. Now this next one is terrifying. Visitors have seen a woman wandering frantically around. Like she looks like she's in like holy shit.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Like what is going on? She's looking for something. Like you remember in the America's Next Stop Model episode, I knew you were thinking this. I was thinking this! That last runway where they get to be ghost-friens and they're supposed to look like and melrose.
Starting point is 01:19:56 For a sick, yeah. That's what this woman is. Like she is frantically going around. And Miss J. And Miss J. Exactly. Now she is always pointing to her face when she comes to you. And when you look at her, there is blood just pouring out of her mouth and she is crying
Starting point is 01:20:13 and screaming. Oh my God. Now this woman is said to be a maid or some kind of staff of the of the castle who heard something she should not have heard. And the Earl had the guards cut her tongue out so that she would keep her secrets. And so now she's running around. Is that the secret? Maybe that's the secret. She heard the secret and got her tongue cut out. This is, are there any thoughts about what the secret is? There is one thought, and I'll talk about it.
Starting point is 01:20:43 So actually famous Scottish novelist Walter Scott actually spent a night in the room in a room in the castle in 1790. He wrote about it and he said, quote, I must own, as I heard door after door shut after my conductor had retired, I began to consider myself as too far from the living in somewhat too near to the dead. He actually wrote that
Starting point is 01:21:05 there was a secret and completely sealed off room in the castle that no one knew about. He said, quote, the castle has a secret chamber, the entrance to which, by law or custom of the family, must be known only to three persons. The Earl of Strathmore, his heir apparent in any third person they may take into their confidence. What? Now, this is what they think might be the secret. Tell me. And it involves that seal, that room that nobody knows about.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Tell me everything. This is the monster of Glam's. Now, October 21st, 1821, the 11th Earl of Strathmore had a son named Thomas Boeslion. He was born very deformed, apparently. And although they claimed he died that same night, he was born. People believe he did not die. And they just, he lived and was hidden away from the public
Starting point is 01:21:56 because of his deformities. That's so sad. Legend says he was only allowed to come out outside the castle walls at night. And because of this, he would just wander around the castle in the dark, and this place where he does his nightly walk even today, now like they see like this monstrous thing walking in the dark. They say that it's called the Mad Earls Walk. And he likely died in the 1920s, they think, which is like really wild,
Starting point is 01:22:26 because it would make him like very old, but whatever. And when he did all of these rooms that he existed in and was like left to, like, he'd be hidden away and they were all sealed off forever. And apparently this can be backed up because if you count the windows from the outside, you will always count two more than when you can access on the inside. Like rooms that you can access. But no one can find them. Find the windows.
Starting point is 01:22:51 Find the windows. Find where those windows are because something sealed off somewhere. Okay. And you can't see them. So people think that might be the horrible secret is that they hit away this child's. Who would have been the heir? That's horrible. but do you think it would bring you to your knees? I don't know. I mean, it's pretty horrible. It's definitely horrible. I don't know. They let them go out at night, though. But then I wonder if there's like more to that.
Starting point is 01:23:17 I think there's a lot more to that. I like if they like did something terrible, you know, even more terrible. Now speaking of windows, people see horrifying faces just staring back at them from inside the windows. People also hear screaming and whaling sometimes at night from empty rooms. Apparently you will also likely hear hammering noises from the rooms. At night? You love a good hammer. I know. And if you mention it to anyone who works there now, they'll ask you to stop talking about it. Like they don't want to talk about it. They were just like hired to say that. Like they're like, well, anybody else just tell them don't.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Well, then I was like, are they just embarrassed that they're maybe like doing work to the castle at night and like waking people up and they're like, well, I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, maybe. Don't bring it up on Yelp. Yeah, we don't know. We don't want to talk about that. But who knows. Now, a woman ghost can also be seen doing chores and carrying things around the courtyard,
Starting point is 01:24:06 but she always makes it to the middle of the courtyard and then just vanishes. I hate that she still has to do chores in the afterlife. That sucks. Now, there's also another crazy thing that happened here. That definitely brought some ghosts. And this is the last thing about this. In 1486, the Olga V clan came running to the castle gloms. They were running from
Starting point is 01:24:27 the Lindsey clan, with which they had a blood feud with. I love that it's the Lindsey clan. The Lindsey clan. They wanted to, like, take some shelter at gloms and hide out for a bit. So the Earl was like, absolutely. You can stay here, my friends. Oh, I will take care of you. Come on in. So he brings them into one of the secret hidden rooms in the castle and he's like, stay here, be safe. So they all go in, he locks the door and just leaves them sealed in there.
Starting point is 01:24:53 What a jackass. He's for like what purpose? He already knew of the blood feud and in true Ramsey Bolton fashion has made this deal with the Lindsay's to just let their rival clan rot in his castle. I fucking love it. So he made a deal before this and was like, yeah, come on in.
Starting point is 01:25:09 I'll take you, I'll make sure you're safe. And then he was like, whoop, that's super weird. So it was weeks after this that someone went down to check and make sure that they had all kicked it at this point. And one member was alive, but barely. And like, couldn't even really be called alive, and he had been forced to eat his dead family members just to stay at this barely registering level of alive.
Starting point is 01:25:31 That's horrific. So they definitely hear screaming and whaling from down there, and they will see somebody like emaciated, like a ghost, so that looks like Barry emaciated walking around. Oh, that must be absolutely horrifically gross and scary to see. And those are the ghosts of Castle Glams.
Starting point is 01:25:49 They are. And it's pretty gnarly. It was, so yeah. Scotland, you know what I'm saying? I mean, the Czech Republic and Italy, you know what I'm saying? There you go. Europe, you know, castles.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Here we go. Just ghost history, bad shit, scary, spooky, sealed off room. It's lots of sealed off shit. I know everywhere, like tunnels sealed off room, sealed off, pits to hell, sealed off. Yeah, yeah. Weird, yeah. Historians, yeah, sealed off.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Sealed off. Sealed off a story in the studio, never. So yeah, that was our first entry into haunted castles officially. Yeah, and like we said, if you have any listener tales about any of these places, do send them to our girl. Oh, no, you're going, sorry. No, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm just kidding. Send them to our girl Deb Deb at morbidpodcast.gmail.com. And if you could just put spooky castles in the headline. Yeah, and if you guys have any, I was gonna say if you have any suggestions for castles, you would like to hear about,
Starting point is 01:26:52 by all means do the same thing, send it to our girl Deb Deb at morbidpodcast.com, spooky castles in the title, and we'll do them. And write her like a nice little note. Yeah, like, hey Deb, just say, hey, Deb Deb, what's up? Okay, all right, well, that was like so much fun and a really weird horrific way. Or a fine and fun. And we hope that you keep listening. And we hope you keep it. Weeeeee! But not something you do any other things that the people did in these castles because
Starting point is 01:27:16 everything that they did in these castles seems to be absolutely horrific and I don't think you should be carrying out any of the activities that they did their body. Yeah. Hey, Prime Members! You can listen to morbid, early, and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at Wondery.com slash survey. What makes a person a murderer? Are they born to kill? or are they made to kill?
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