Morbid - Episode 326: Spooky Road Vol. 5

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

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That's ANGI, or download the app today. Hey, weirdo's I'm Ash. And I'm Alena. And this is morbid. It's a spooky road's edition. That makes me wanna go, spooky, spooky, spooky. You know what I'm saying. I do. You get it. I get saying. I do. You get it.

I get it. I totally get it. Spooky, spooky, spooky. There you go. Ash is a juggalette. I don't know if you know this. You can get away from me. I am not.

I am not. But I did see that true life. I'm marrying a jugalow, remember that one? Oh yeah, like my jugalette, or it was like a strange or like, my parents don't approve of my wedding. Yeah, and that's what it was. It was weddings, and one of them was a jugalow

and a jugalette. It was a beautiful wedding, if you ask me. And you know what, they loved each other. I hope they're still happy. I think the dad did end up coming. I think he did. Spoiler alert, if you haven't seen that episode from 25 years ago.

But they also had like, did they have the, that wasn't the vampires one, was it? No, that was respect my sect. Oh, that's a great one, guys. That's one of my favorites. I know, and um, remember the vampires? How cool they were? They were? They were?

Their names, their names. Did they listen? Yes, their names were no They didn't listen, but they I think we were gonna try to get them on an episode. Oh, is that what it was? Maybe we should still try to get them on an episode. Yeah Daily and Logan. Yeah Oh, it's their name. Yep. What are they doing? I follow daily on um Instagram. I just think she's killing it I think I follow both of them on Instagram, but I'm just never on Instagram,

so I don't know how they're doing. I think they're still beautiful, so. You know what, there you go. I bet they're still beautiful. I hope they're still, I think daily was like into fay stuff now. Oh yeah, I think you're right, actually. Good girl. I hope you're living your best life.

That'd be cool. Yeah, that would make my day. Maybe we can try to get them on, that would be fun. But I don't know how we got to, I respect my sect true life because you called me a juggalette. Okay, that's what it was. Thank you. All right, well back to spooky roads.

Okay. We are here for another edition of spooky roads. It has been a while. Yeah, I actually don't remember the last episode that we did on there. It's because we've ventured into a few other spooky realms. You know, the spooky lighthouses. We ventured into a few other spooky realms. You know, the spooky lighthouses.

We have the spooky castles, spooky butts. We're going all over, spooky. And what's fun is spooky stuff always involves ghosts and ghosts always involves some kind of crazy story of how they became ghosts. Accurate. So it kind of involves everything. It does, in my opinion.

So we were looking through some of the suggestions because please still give us spooky roads that you would like us to cover, just like we want you to give us the lighthouses you want us to cover. The castles. The castles, give us lakes. The lakes, give us forests.

Whatever spooky thing you want us to hit will add it into the little arsenal here. Yeah, I wanna do Mothman soon. Ooh, yeah, we'll hit it into the little arsenal here. Yeah, I want to do Mothman soon. Oh, yeah, we'll hit some cryptids for sure because those are fun. Suggest those, suggest some cryptids, whatever you guys want, that's what we want to do. So we got a few suggestions.

We kind of like picked through them. And one that really intrigued me was Rogues Hollow, in Ohio. Anything that ends in Hollow is usually spooky. It is, and this was suggested by Michael, so I wanna say thanks to Michael. Michael, that's a great name. I think he was the only one that suggested it too,

which I'm shocked to buy, because when I looked through it, I was like, whoa. Wow. Solo Michael is in the know. He does only Michael knows about this road. That's what I think. Now Rogues Hollow is in the know. He does only Michael knows about this road. That's what I think. Now Rogues Hollow is in Ohio,

and it's found a mile south of Doyle's town. It's actually right off of an old abandoned coal mining town, and is actually a hauler. A hauler? Do you remember Buck Wild? Do I remember Buck Wild? They looked in a hauler? Yes. Candy candy. R.. I know. As she used to love that show.

Ice. You still do. Like I would watch that if it was available somewhere. And this is what I love about you. So it's literally a geographical depression in the earth. Now it's known as Rogues Hollow Historic Park and Chippewa Nature Preserve. Okay. Now that's what it's known as Rogues Hollow Historic Park and Chippewa Nature Preserve. Okay, now that's what it's known as. It has been called the Sleepy Hollow of Ohio. In its heyday, it was a hopping place to be. This road was right through an old coal mining town or like a village of some sort, you

know, in a hall or who doesn't love a hall or. Well, in the 1860s, 1870s, it turned into kind of a place, like a dark place, I would say. It was like this hop and coal mining town and then it turned into this scary kind of outlaw town where outlaws gangsters, scary people lived in Hengah. And she always laughs when I say gangsters, but that's how you say like gangsters. I know, it's just funny. Like I'm not gonna call like gangsters

from the 1800s, like gangsters. That's not what I want you to do. I'm not going to though. It's gangsters. Every time she's to laugh every time. Every time. But either way, outlaw's gangsters, Gary, Gary people, Gary's hung out there.

You know how scary Gary sucks. You're scary, Gary. It's fate, Kate. Let's go on a date, Kate. Name that movie, everybody. But yeah, so lots of Gary's with their, they lived, they hung out there. People shot each other on the regular there. Like, there was lots of Gary's were there. They lived, they hung out there. People shot each other on the regular there. Like there were shootouts all up in there. You just walked into that,

like it was nothing. You were like, yeah, and then people shot each other all the time. Well, they did. They were like, why? They had shootouts constantly. You were safe to walk down the streets alone. There were robberies, burglaries. It was like crazy. There was a wild time in a wild taller. The wild wild. The wildest taller. Not worst. The wild wildest taller. Yeah.

No, authorities literally wouldn't enter this place. Like, police were like, no thank you. Godspeed everybody. We're going to stay out of here. It got its name because of the kinds of people who chilled around there. Rogues. It's an all-est place. So in fact, it was, that's funny that you say that. Ooh. It got its name because of the kinds of people who chilled around there. Rogues.

It's a lawless place. So, in fact, it was, that's funny that you say that. It was determined to be the most lawless place in America. At one point. That was weird. That's really funny. And I actually watched this really fun and spooky video about this on a YouTuber named Rick's Nerd Life. And it was really good.

I feel like I've watched Rick's videos before. It was good. I was really about, I was like, get it, Rick. Like he told me some stuff that I was like, wow, I didn't read that. So thank you, Rick. I love you, Rick. So go check out Rick's Nerd Life.

Hopefully he's still doing videos. He did great with this one. So here's a couple of the ghosts. Here's a couple of the legends that are associated with this. Again, this was a like coal mining town. There were mills in here and all that good stuff. There was one that was called the Chidester Mill. And there's the Chidester Mill Ghost or Ghosts, I should say.

The old Chidester Mill actually burned down a while ago, but no one knows how. It was very mysterious. Cause lawlessness. Because lawlessness. Because lawlessness. And either way, there was a tale of a mill worker who fell into the giant churning mill wheel that's in the water there. Ooh, you know those big wheels you see outside of a mill. I do.

He was crushed under the wheel. Oh gosh. And people claimed his ghost guarded the mill and tried to like, was like still doing his work like over and over again. And probably trying to make sure nobody else fell in the mill. Probably. And a lot of people believe it was him. It was possibly him who started the fire, that burned down the mill because they didn't want anyone else like falling to the similar fate. There was also another legend that says one of the former owners of the mill hanged himself from the rafters in the mill. They also believe he

might have been the one that start the fire like in the afterlife because he didn't want the mill going to an outsider who was going to attempt to purchase it. Okay, kind of makes sense if he's the original owner. I could see how those things happening. Apparently some younger boys broke into the mill in the middle of the night in the 1800s, and it was after the water wheel accident killed a worker, and they came running out screaming to their parents, even admitting that they had broken in at night. They were not even trying to hide it at that point. And they claimed that when they broke in, they saw the

face of a tortured man up in the second floor of the mill. Ooh. It scared the shit floor of the mill. Ooh. It scared the shit out of them. I bet they never went back there and broke the rule. No. Well, after it burned down, they did the Chippewa Rogues Hollow Historical Society made a replica of the mill. So it's there. It's got, it's almost like a museum kind of thing.

It has all these things about it. It is spooky. I was like, should we go? I want to go because it kind of looks, it reminds me of the witch house in Salem, it's black and very spooky. Yeah. Of course, they also have a cry baby bridge here. Oh, I love that.

A lot of cry baby bridges, everywhere. There are. And especially Ohio apparently has a lot of them. Oh, really?. Which is weird. I'm like, what makes you guys so special that you get tons of a Crybaby Bridges? You feel like that makes them special? That's a little scary. So this Crybaby bridge, the legend is now the Crybaby bridge is right in Rogue's Hollow. Like is this little thing over a creek. Okay. I'm also giving you a lot of credit because Crybaby Bridge is really hard to say. Crybaby bridge. Say that five times fast, ready? Crybaby bridge. Crybaby bridge.

Crybaby bridge. Crybaby bridge. Crybaby bridge. Crybaby bridge. Crybaby bridge. It's hard, I don't know if we did it perfectly. It's a little tough. So the legend says that a woman threw her newborn over the bridge near what is today the visitor center. Oh, come on and visit us. Where this woman yeeted her child over yonder. But apparently you can still hear a newborn crying. Usually people say it's like in the middle of the night at like midnight or something. You can also still hear the mother weeping and she can be seen leaning over the side of the railing crying and reaching for her baby. That's so sad. Yeah. And the most of those legends are pretty similar that like they just toss a baby into the water.

And then they like weep a bunch. And then they cry about it. But there's another tale for this bridge that says a woman crashed in her car off this bridge and her child drowned in the river below. That's how you know. Now it says she supposedly took her life nearby as a result of the guilt.

Now you can find her wandering the bridge weeping for her child. That's sad. I know it's really sad. They also have in this sleepy hollow, they have a headless horse. They have to. Not a headless horse, men. A headless horse.

You know, I was waiting for you to get to the men part, but a headless horse. A headless horse. I don't want any part of that. So at the corner of, I think it's phrase and Clinton roads, there was a big oak tree at one point. It's not there anymore. This tree had a low hanging branch that riders used to have to duck under because it wasn't a thin branch. It was a doozy of a branch. If you hit this thing, you were going to be like, taken out. Now, one night, a horse was running through their wildly. He had apparently escaped from his owner.

He was like on the move. But the horse ran full speed into that thick branch and was decapitated by the branch. Baby. Now, Cal Holden, who was a part of the Rhoag's Hollow Historical Society, said people will still see a horse running around the area. But it's missing its head. That's like, I don't, I hate that. I just love that this like Ohio sleepy hollow,

it's such like a, it almost feels like it's like a like the off-brand sleepy hollow. It does. It's rogue's hollow and also like we don't have a headless horseman, but we have a headless horse. It's like good value. It's like you kind. It is like, I kind of love it. Like, I kind of love that for you. I love it. I know. You've got something at least.

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He passed by the tree and immediately he was struck. He wasn't struck by anything, but he was struck like emotionally. He was struck emotionally when he saw two glowing red eyes up in the branches of the tree staring down at him. That is something that would strike you emotionally. It would be a big strike you, right? Yes. Ooh, I'm struck. I wouldn't feel emotional about it though. I would feel stressed out about it.

I mean, that's an emotion, isn't it? Stressed? Yeah, emotional to me though is like, oh, she got emotional like she cried. Oh, okay. I see that. I'd be struck with fear. I'd be struck with like curiosity. I'd be like, what's that? Yeah. Very fitting for the bull.

But this, this thing was staring at him very menacingly. Yeah, bye. And he found himself unable, even, unable, unable, unable, unable. Unable and unable. I can't talk, guys. It's the end of the week. I don't know what's happening. You can't talk, but this is a podcast. I'm kidding me. I should quit.

No. I was like, oh my god, no, I'm never, never, even when I can't talk. But no, it was very menacing, but he found himself unable to tear his eyes from it. He was like, what is this thing? It was drawing him in. And he soon saw that this was either a demon,

what they referred to as an imp, a diamond or some kind of devil just sitting on the branch looking down at him crouching. What did some kind of devil also just be a demon? Some kind of devil? Yeah, I guess. I don't know. A diamond. I made it up. Now, later, real songfake song, what about it? Totally fake. Made that up. It's real love. Really? Real song, fake song. What about it? Totally fake. We made that up.

It's real loud. Now, later, more residents around the area said that they saw this little Damon devil creature sitting up on the branches of the old oak tree, or they would get a two for one special, and they would see that headless horse, and they would see this little imp sitting on top of the headless horse just staring at them. Again, a good value. That is a great value. Yeah. Two for one.

If you're going to see one, you better see both. Bring your coupon. Why not? Now, this oak tree actually either fell down or it was cut down. There was reports of both, not sure. If you were there, let me know. Did you cut it down or did it fall down?

Call me. But there were documented reports of vehicles stalling under this tree when it was still up, specifically under this tree. Several of them, like enough to make it weird. Give me urgent, urgent urban. I almost never, I almost just an urgent leabend. Yeah.

Gives me urban legend vibes. It definitely does. And like the bridge water triangle, which we are currently sitting in the middle of right now, there are also reports of weirdly, like weirdly gigantic animals in this area. In the hollow and on the roads surrounding the hollow.

People have reported seeing legit pythons in the area. Like big, huge, huge snakes that couldn't possibly live there in Ohio otherwise. They're not Ohio native to Ohio. I'm shaking my head and racking my finger. Now, according to Weirdo-Hio, a reader wrote in and said that they spent a lot of time on that road outside the hollow. And one night, they saw what they referred to as the gray lady ghost. Always, of course.

Any good haunt has one. I'm telling you. She was in an old-timey frontier dress and ran down the road at an unnatural speed with all her dress flowing behind her and it was gray. Pretty. And like the America's next top model. We're always going, all roads lead back to that runway. Really? They do. They do. That runway where Karen, who was it? Karen D. And Melrose. And Miss J. Alexander. There you go, we're all in wedding dresses and they had to run down there. Like they were ghost league brides and shriek

and act out, yeah. That was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Well, that great lady is working her own runway, apparently, because people see her a lot and she's always running and she's always stressed. She's got somewhere to be. And they hear. Wait, it is yeah, run away.

There you go. And they'll it is yeah right there you go and they'll also hear you got it nailed it. They also will hear a ghostly train. Yep they hear it and it's like woop woop and it's like yeah it's ghostly. And apparently there's no train working in the area, so that's weird. It's spooky. Now lastly, I did see a ton of mentions,

just mentions in several different reports and websites and videos, even, that say there's a graveyard near the road where apparently the ground shakes near midnight sometimes, fault line. Especially around Halloween. And I would love to hear more about this, but I could not hear one specific detail about it. And it was literally like, and then there's a graveyard where the ground shakes.

And you're like, do you want to tell me more about it though? Like, do you want to, were you there? Like, can you, no one's told me they were there? Have you been there? That's like my least favorite part of researching haunted things is that like you will always find just one thing that you cannot find and further information about. But it's so interesting.

It's interesting, so I have to say it, but I do have to tell you that there's no basis. Well, and it's like, it's a thing that you will find in like a hundred different sources, but only just that it exists. Not any further details about it, that's that. Drives me of a mayonnaise. So that, my friends, is Rogues Hollow

and the road that surrounds it in Ohio. Fun! You can go take a peek. Okay. But you can't go down the road in your car, it's closed. Well, don't you? You can walk though. You can go walk and you can go look

at the Chida-Stormill replica. Where are your sneakers in case you have to run out though? Yeah, and don't go near the wheel. Oh, yeah, no. Don't do it. I was like, which wheel? And then I was like, that wheel. It's a spooky, yucky place. Sounds like it, you know? Well, for my first spooky road, I decided to start it with a listener tail to really get you in the mid. Let's go. Alright, so we're going gonna be talking about Gold Camp Road, which is in Colorado. Oh, we're not in California. No.

I thought we were going there when there are accents. Oh, no. Bra. I mean, stoneery. There you go. Yeah, that works. Whatever. So this one, like I said, starts off with a listener tale

and it's from Monica. It says, hey, Lena and Ash, my name is Monica. All the names I used are made up, so you can use all of them. Mine included. Okay, Monica. I love when people do that, you're the best. It's the best. Let me start by saying, I know, we all start these stories this way,

but who am I to break tradition? You two are badass bitches, and we wouldn't have you any other way. Any negative reviews are shrouded, and I'm jealous. Wait, no, no, no, are shrouded, I'm jealous. Anyways, I get no, no, are shrouded, I'm jealous. Anyways, I shrouded, I get it. Okay, yep, yep, that was good. Thank you for that. I love you, Monica.

Anyways, I guess we should cut to the chase. Am I right? Of course, you're always right. You're always right. That's like the fourth time that you and I have done today. And I'd like you to get the fuck out of my brain, okay? Leave me alone. You also don't want to spend too much time in my brain.

Get out of there, seriously. It's fun. I don't know. So let me preface this by saying, and I can't stress this enough. I was 16. Oh, so don't judge my lack of judgment. Because I promise I still do have,

I still do that enough after all these years. It was a Friday night. My mom was an Aspag and nonexistent in my life. And my father had me when he was old. So he was probably hiding in a closet for my raging hormones, hoping that I'd be anywhere other than fucking with him. As long as I didn't get pregnant, I was good.

Standards were really high, y'all. I don't know why I said y'all. I'm from Colorado Springs. But anyway, I like to be dead. I love you, yeah. I don't know why I said that. Your emails are so funny, I love them. I feel like I can also always read them how they wrote them.

Yeah, because it's how my brain works, too. So they said, I like to my dad and told him I was staying that I'd at my best friend's house. My best friend, let's call her Parker. Anyway, Parker said she was staying the night at my house. That's what we did in the early 2000s, and it was so, so, so dumb. Because there was a lack of technology. But why did we do this? Because we wanted to drink and go hang out with this random fucking people in the mountains. There's this road in our city called Gold Camp Road. I know that Monica. I know it. When I was growing up, all the edgy teens and

skis would go there to drink and whatever other fuckery they could imagine. So with our water bottle of a little of every alcohol my father had, we were off. Oh man, this is the most relatable story. And it was just like right there with you. Yeah I that was like my life. That shit was divine, don't judge. It was, I won't. Oh, we drive to said location park and start drinking. It's about 11 and dark as fuck outside, feeling pretty badass while flirting with some random ass dudes. Imagine Janko jeans, chains and baggy shirts

that could fit a 300 pound linebacker, but on a skinny 110 pound string bean type of early 90s guys. Wow. You painted a picture. You painted a picture that I am familiar with. Yeah, so feeling bad ass flirting with Janko jeans, all of the above.

Yeah, then we hear it. A scream that can only be described as some sort of banshee getting strangled. Oh, I don't know, but all I said was, I'm out, fuck that. The fuck is my 100 pound ass gonna do? Nothing, good for you. All the while hoping that Janeco wearing Jimmy

will man the fuck up and go see what's up. Janeco wearing Jimmy. Janeco Jimmy everybody, Janeco Jimmy enters the chat. I just said jippy. That's fine. To say the same thing. Nope, he sure didn't. So my friend and I, we decided to use our big dick energy

because obviously they weren't, so we go see what's up. We walk around a bend because it was really just a road with pull-offs. And about a minute up, we see it. You guys, when I say, I don't know what the fuck we saw, I really don't know what the fuck we saw. Oh no. Up ahead was a red Corolla-looking car

with white sheets around the whole front and back seat. Seriously, imagine sheets covering everything, but the driver's seat inside the car. What kind of dexter bullshit was this? Yeah. What's outside the car that made us stop, oh, excuse me. What outside the car made us stop, you might ask? Some angry looking fucking crazy dude staring at us.

Oh. When he saw us, he started yelling at us to fuck off. Oh, okay, sure, you got it. I will fuck right off, sir. But by that time, Janko Jimmy was behind us. And he decided he was tired of us having the only big dick energy, and he asked what was going on. Yeah, cool, cool, cool.

I see him answering calmly. Crazy Carl though pulls out a knife and yells at Janko Jimmy and the rest of us to fuck off again, except now he's running at us. Oh! So yeah, we read the room, we fuck off. Good for you again. Now as we get back to our cars deciding what to do

because none of us had our phones, that red Corolla drives by with crazy car all in the driver's seat. He drives super slowly and bitch, when I say my ass fell off, I mean it. It's no longer with you. A woman moves the sheet, screams help, bangs on the window and gets pulled back. And we all see as crazy Carl drives away that her hand is still on the window.

What the actual fuck? I did not see that coming. No. Whoa. Yeah. My big dick energy turned into micro penis guilt and I just stood there. Parker and I just cried.

Janko, Jimmy, and his string being asked and his posse and I just stood there. Parker and I just cried. Janko Jimmy and his string being asked and his posse, they just stood there. But then my senses kicked in after the cloud lifted and I looked at the license plate. I ran to my car and wrote down the license plate number. Wow. Janko Jimmy promised us that they were gonna head to the police station since they were 18.

I gave him my private room number. Yeah, I was one cool trash bag. Wow. And said that if we have to, we can out ourselves to the police if they want to talk to us. Parker and I spent the rest of our night in a Burger King parking lot because we couldn't go home. That happened to me before. I once got stranded in a Burger King parking lot with my friend Marissa, shout out Marissa. One of the Marissa's if it's the one that you're not thinking of, it's not you. But yeah, literally stranded in a Burger King parking lot. Wow.

I feel like weirdly relatable to Monica here. That's wild. Crazy. So I lost my place because I was talking about myself. That's okay. We're in a Burger King parking lot. Burger King parking lot couldn't go home, we can't stay shit. I never got a call.

I checked the news stations for years, you guys guys and I never saw anything that synced up. The kicker? That road is notoriously haunted and a known dumping body, or excuse me, dumping ground for bodies. Stop. Oh, and just for shits and giggles, I'll add. My father was a prison guard who had been a cop before, that for a very long time. Now get this shit. Two weeks later, Janko Jimmy calls me and had been a cop before, that for a very long time. Now get this shit. Two weeks later, Janko Jimmy calls me and tells me a cop followed up with him and told me that he visited the person with the license plate that I gave him, and the guy told him that it was some kind of kink that him and this girl do.

She has sex with a random guy while doing a specific fantasy every once in a while. No, no, no, no, no, no. A, this bitch consented to none of that shit. Don't involve minors in your reindeer games. No. And B, no, I did not believe that. I don't know if I believed that. I still don't know.

I feel oddly guilty, and I always wonder if my instinct was correct. Anyway, sorry this was so long. Cut what you like. Wow. Or keep it. Keep it weird. But not so weird that you and your friend decided

to drink in the mountains with some random ass dudes and get involved in somebody's kink shenanigans. Fucking crazy Carl. Holy shit. That would also just be like such a clean excuse for that. Well, a dirty excuse. Well it's a dirty. But no, I, it's like, okay, then can I talk to the girl

so that she can also tell me that? Exactly. Cause like, I'm not just taking your word for that crazy coral. And him telling them to like fuck off and had a knife and was like chasing them with it, I'm like, that doesn't seem like kinky behavior. That seems like somebody trying to hide crime.

That seems aggressive personally. Whoa. So with that, so give me that road because that was a great listener tale. It was a great listener tale. So I couldn't find anything about being a dumping ground for bodies. I'll tell you that right off the bat, but I did find some wild shit. So old camp old gold camp road is right by Colorado Springs and it was constructed way back during the 18th century while the gold rush was going down. Make sense. Now originally the road was covered with train tracks,

so that all the gold rushers could get up there and strike for their golden chip. And rush for gold. And rush to find the gold. Yeah. Thinking about the gold rush is like, remember learning about that in school and just doing like, what?

And literally just being like, what? Like the whole time I was just like, okay. Just in a constant state of, huh? What? And like, can you teach me how to do my taxes? Or like write a checkbook? Yeah, but instead I just learned about the gold rush anyway. It's believed that some of the workers who were put in charge of digging out the tunnels actually died while doing so and were basically just buried alive in the process. Like, it tuned. Yeah, yeah. So obviously immediately that sucks us up for a hunt.

Yeah, it does make sense. But around 1920s, the railway was transformed into just a regular road where traffic could make its way through. And that pretty much marks the beginning of people claiming this place to be haunted. Now, there's a bunch of tunnels up there. And over the years, a ton of them have collapsed.

But one of them, tunnel number three, has been sealed off. Ooh, what's up with tunnel number three? Nobody's completely sure, but a lot of people claim the reason that it's sealed off is because of a tragic accident. I don't know what accident just overtook my body. You know, it's one of those old souls. Accident. Accident. I said the accident.

Accident. So apparently in 1988 this tunnel collapsed because of school bus crashed into the side of it. Ooh. Now all kinds of claims have been made about the reason for the crash but the two most popular theories are one the driver was suicidal and intentionally caused the bus to crash. Oh my goodness. Or number two, the crash truly was an accident and just a result of the windy unpaved roads, because this is a dirt road, by the way.

Yeah. Now, either one of those stories could be true. And either way, the story would still go on the same way. As the bus crashed into one of the side walls of the tunnel, the tunnel collapsed onto the bus like all these rocks were falling down and like crushing the bus and all the kids inside and the driver.

This is terrible. Yeah. Now the only problem is there's literally not a single record of this accident. That's supposedly happened in 1988 where like records did exist. I did. But people still love to talk about it.

I like it. And people who are brave enough to visit the area, that they literally will peer into the tunnel and see what they can make out. And a lot of people see the operation of men in cloaks walking around. What? And nobody knows why.

And no one has just been like, Hey! What's you guys doing in there? Why are you wearing cloaks? You got something on a ritual going on? Is it just kind of cold in there? Yeah. Sick cloak, cloak broke.

Bye. Yeah, I don't know. Just see. Find out. See? Maybe they're willing to let you in on the whole thing. Maybe they're just like, hey, this is the meeting of our annual cloaks of the World Club

or something fun like that. Yeah. Something innocuous. I don't know. I think it's innocuous. It's very innocuous. I don't think it's innocuous. I think it's innocuous.

I agree. No, and other people who are brave enough to visit, they also say that they'll hear either screaming children in the area or giggling children. Both of which pretty terrible. I don't want either of those things when kids aren't supposed to be around. No, no, no.

People also claim that if they're around tunnel number three, that they feel tiny hands, like putting their hands on their hands. If they're tense. And then hands on hands. In tiny hands. Tiny hands. Always creepy. Or belonging to children.

And they'll also fear their clothes being tugged at. Oh my God. I know. That's such a little kid thing. Whenever I hear your like clothes being tugged at by like ghost kids, I'm like, that's such a little kid thing. I know you're like clothes being tugged at by like ghost kids. I'm like, that's such a little kid thing. I know. Like, oh, oh, just tugging on your clothes.

That makes me so sad. And also people who have driven up there will say that as they drive through the tunnels that aren't sealed off, if there's like any dust or like shit on their car, they'll see the imprint of hand-to-hand. Little baby hands. Yeah. Now the haunting does not end with tunnel number three.

No. Because over the years, people think actually not end with tunnel number three. No. Because over the years, people think actually that tunnel number two is the most haunted. I knew it. How did you know? I just knew it. Because you're in my brain. I told you to vacate. I was like, you're telling me about number three, but I feel like number two is a real

star here. You're not wrong. It's the most haunted. And local legend says that if you park inside of the tunnel and then kick your car into neutral, don't like kick it, but like, shift it into neutral. Just like round house kick your car into neutral.

Hiya! There you go. No, don't do that. Miss Piggy style. Miss Piggy style. I love Miss Piggy. No, she's not here. No.

She's not here. She's not here. In case she were one of the No. She's not here. She's not here. In case you were one of the tricks, she's like, hell, no. No, but if you, if you get your car in a neutral while you're parked in, tunnel number two, your car will start feeling like it's being pushed up the hill. That's nice. And people think that the guy responsible for pushing your car up the hill is somebody who died a long time ago in a car accident And that's why he's so quick to help and he cars passing through

He thinks that they're having some kind of car trouble and he just wants to help you out of it Just a good Samaritan. So don't waste his time. Don't know it. If you're not actually having car trouble. No, he's like triple A. He doesn't have time for that Doesn't no triple A always has time for that. They're always so AAA. He doesn't have time for that. Doesn't, no, AAA always has time for that. They're always so late. They don't have time for anything. Oh, really? You call AAA, you're gonna wait forever.

No, no. I mean, like good for, I love AAA. I'm a AAA. I was just saying, I'm a AAA member. I am too. I have lost gas on the highway two times. I've lost gas. Yeah, it's a better way to say that I'm stupid

and I didn't fill my tank before driving to work. I have lost gas on the highway. No, it's coworker. I have lost gas. Yeah, I'm a high-weight. No old-school worker, my point it out to me that I did not lose it. I simply wasn't there. It just wasn't there to be in with. Correct. Can't lose what you didn't have.

But AAA showed up within like 20 minutes. There you go. I mean, they're busy though. Yeah, they do. He's AAA, he's busy. Yeah, he is busy. Not a lot of calls. Ring ring.

But here's the thing though. I believe this one because gold camp road has been the site of like a lot of calls. Ring, ring. But, but here's the thing though. I believe this one because gold camp road has been the site of like a ton of accidents over the years because it's super twisty, windy and unpaved. But there's rumors that 11 cars that have gotten into accidents there are abandoned below the road now. Oh, yeah. And like actual authorities have come out and said that.

That's so creepy. I want to go see them because I feel like that would be like in wrong turn or like yeah or like the hitcher or something where you just see a bunch of like that's so scary to me. That is one of the scariest. Just like a big that big field of abandoned cars. Hate it. At that point in the movie, I'm like, I'm done. I'm done, bye. Bye. Wow. Spooky.

That's really spooky. I know, right? No, thank you. I want to go there, but like, no, thank you. You want to, but no, thank you. Yeah, just like, no, thank you. That's spooky, but I definitely want to go. Yes, please.

There's two parts that we need to go. I'm really conflicting right now. What are you, a Gemini? No, I'm not. I'm a Kepprecord. Oh, you are? Okay, so nobody knew that. Capricorn and the other girl.

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Marrow Road. Marrow Road. It's an all-gan-ac Michigan. Okay. We have another Crybaby Bridge. Oh. They're everywhere. Now, the haunted part of this road is between Che and Holland roads, apparently, and this

road was dirt, like, unpaved until recently. And also, was it cow path in the 1800s? No! Thank you. You're welcome. They were very few houses of any sort or any kind of civilization around here until very recently. There are also two small waterways or, like, little creeks beneath it. any sort or any kind of civilization around here until very recently.

There are also two small waterways or like little creeks beneath it. So the legend says that a woman haunts the road looking for her lost child. Apparently she was killed one blistery winter's night looking for her son. Legend has it that she was one of the only residents near this road. In one night her young child went missing from his bed. Oh. So he had been abducted. Yeah, he was taken from his bed.

She was lying, wasn't she? She panicked. And she ran out into the night, into the winter night, into like the blistery winter air of Michigan. Cold. Looking for her child. Because again, he had been abducted. And she was only wearing her night gown. So she's frantically searching for her child and she was either struck on the road

or she was killed possibly by the person who had abducted her child. Oh man! Either way, who's to say? She was found days later frozen in the snow. And now she's still searching for her child. Right, because she never found him. Never found him. So she's always wearing a light blue night gown. That's like very tattered. And apparently has the initials. I've seen this in a few places. I see, possibly named Isabella.

I've seen in some sources. Okay. And that's also, I found this information on Michigan's other side.com. Ooh. And also on like a few other places. But that was just like a really interesting one. Also, she's seen with bloody hands. Ooh. Which is interesting. Did she fall?

When she got struck. That's what I'm saying. And she's wailing or screaming, where's my baby? Oh. Now, another legend says that a woman had a baby with a man who left her and she abandoned that baby by the bridge. But then she felt guilty almost immediately afterwards. She went back to get him and he was gone. That's why you don't leave your baby by a bridge. That's why you don't do it. So after she died later, she haunts the bridge searching for her baby because she's the guilt. You shouldn't love them in the first place. So aside from seeing the woman or women, people also hear babies crying and look to find them but can never find a source. They also say if you honk your horn three times while on the bridge, that's when

a baby will start crying. Like you like make it happen. So don't, which I would never want to do. I don't like hearing a baby cry. No, you're a mom, of course. But if you don't hear a baby cry after you honk three times, you might get the other choice that happened. It's three, honk honk honk. You either get a crying baby off in the distance. What's the hot door number two? Well, the hot door number two is the mother will appear and she will slam her bloody hands on your car

and chase your car. Whoa, like bloody Mary kind of style. I'm a little tempted to do that. Yeah. The also car trouble is reported a lot on the bridge. People will stall and won't be able to start their car. And then this mom comes out and or and slams their hands on your car.

And we'll like try to get in. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Saying try to get in sent a wave of fucking chills tingling down my damn spine. And people have reported that like they stall, they hear things and they feel things. And then they finally start again.

And they find like fingerprints and shit on their car Like really scary shit. Yeah, really I thought you're gonna say really scary fingerprints really fucking terrifying fingerprints like over there gnarly Orbs are also a huge part of this road pretty people see mainly green orbs that follow them or will hover in the woods off the side of the road. I have orbs in my next one too. We love some orbs. I don't know how I feel about it. Like, they're fine. They're there. They're green. They're fun. It's not going to love my orbs. But if you go to morrowroad.com or morrowroad.com, which is M-O-R-O-W. So. Morrow. Morrow. That's it. That's it.

Marrowrow.com, you can explore a film project in the works. Oh, shit. About the road and the legends, and it looks super creepy and super fun. It's going to be like a documentary. I think it's going to be like an actual film. Oh, I think they're going to do a scary movie about it. Oh, yeah.

But it's like independent, like very like grassroots kind of campaigning kind of thing. And they're trying to like get some financial backing and all that. So like they've been updating like as early as like May 2022. So I'll donate to that. So it's like I'm like I'm like I want to see this. Let's go. But it's morrowroad.com. I'll link it in the show notes so you guys can go see it. And maybe if you I think they're also looking for like actors and stuff and people to work on the film. You said it's in Michigan. It is in Michigan.

Well too far. Now also for my haunted heads out there, there's a haunted trail attraction that is called the Marrow Road haunted trail. Let's go. It's a 75 minute walk through the area. They tell you the legends, people scare you. It's like during Halloween time. It's like 75 minute walk through the area, and they tell you the legends, people scare you. And it's like during Halloween time, it's like a haunted attraction.

It's apparently awesome. The reviews are like out of this planet. And one actually said that the trail scared the contacts out of their eyes. Oh, see, that would not be good for me because then I would be walking down that ship, blind as a bad baby. I just betcha, and somebody just be like,

pup, and they just come out of the, I just funny. They might have been crying. Maybe. I've cried by contacts out before. They used, the trail literally scared the contacts out of my eyes and I was like, that sells me on a haunted house. That does, I need to know more about it.

Now I'm going to give you guys a couple of listener tales about this place. Oh, you just had to wanna. Me like that. I said, wanna be. All right, I see you. You were in my brain and you said, I'll wanna per.

You're always one-uping me. Always and forever. That's fine, just kidding. This one's from Caitlin. Hi. She says, Queen Weirdos, I just wanna start out like everyone else and gush over how much I love the podcast.

I listen every day at work. I work outside on the maintenance crew at a golf course. So I always spook myself out while listening to an extra creepy story. Oh, that sounds fun. Fresh air is for dead people, right? Anywho, I want to suggest a spooky, spooky road in my hometown of Algonac, Michigan. Mora Road, also known as Crybaby Bridge, give it a goog and you'll find tons of articles on it. As dumb teenagers normally do, my group of friends

always went out to the bridge to see if we could hear the cries of the baby or see the woman searching for her son. As legend has it, a woman died on the bridge searching for her son. If you drove your car onto the bridge, honk the horn three times, you'd see the woman or hear the cries.

I never saw or heard anything, but I did have car problems driving over the bridge. My car would start sputtering almost like it wanted a stall. Then, be completely fine as I reach the end of the road. Like what the hell? No thank you. The bridge has since been removed, and it's very residential now. But back in my father's youth, it was full of sand dunes. Great spot for teens to go party, right? Nope. To this day, my father will not speak about things he has seen or heard on that road. Ooh, he avoids even driving past the road now if we go visit family. It's crazy. I apologize for my ramblings and misspelled words in my email. You did great. Don't worry about it, no. I currently have my loin fruit sleeping in my arms.

Oh my god, it took me a minute. That's fucking great. So I'm rushing to get this sent to you before the little monster wakes up. I love you ladies and hope to hear you cover the Crybaby Bridge. Yes, you can use my name and I'm looking forward to hearing you pronounce the name of my hometown.

Algonac. Like Almonac. Like Algonac, I did it. So that was Kaelin's, that was crazy. And then this one is from like, who is it from? I figured it out, it's from Joy. Yeah. Alright, it says, hello, first off, I want to say I love the podcast. I'm not one for listening to podcasts, but yours just has a special place in this weird old heart. So thanks. Oh wow, who love you? Thank you, Joy.

Anywho, onto the creepy haunted road. This road is called Maraud Road, located in Columbus, Michigan, right outside of St. Claire. One night, around like two or three in the morning, a group of friends and I went out to try and see if any of the legends of the road are true. So a group of friends and I went out to this road. My friend Kate and I are very in tune, I guess you could say, with the spirit realm. Yes. We've been able to sense spirits and just get vides off of certain things. It's hard

to explain, but we just know when something's there, and when to also get the hell out of dodge what need be. As we're driving down the road, Kate and I both get a piercing pain right above our right eyebrow. And both of us kind of complained about it at the same time, which sent Katie's boyfriend and brother, the other two people with us, into a fit of, you guys are just fucking with us that didn't happen. But it did. And it hurt. LOL. When I heard she got hit in the head too, I reached around her and pressed onto the same spot I was hit, and she agreed it was the same spot. That was the first of many things to happen that night. After that, we continued driving down the road

to try and find the bridge, but we quickly become overwhelmed with the smell of rotten eggs. And if you don't know, that's exactly what sulfur smells like in boom. Sulfur equal demons. We weren't okay. Eventually, we get to the end of the road,

and nothing really happened except these two occurrences, but it wasn't enough for me. So I made them turn around, so I couldn't get out, or excuse me, I made them turn around, so I could get out and walk the road. You're brave. Yeah, for real. Kate and her boyfriend didn't think it was a good idea,

but I didn't care, LOL. And her brother agreed to get out and walk with me. That's when shit hit the fan. I love that. You guys were like demons? Yeah, let me over here. And then I love it. She's like, that's when shit hit the fan.

And then she did cry, laughing emoji. I love it. The second I get out of the car, I had a sinking in my gut and felt like I wasn't supposed to be there. You think that would have been my first sign, but no. I'm dumb. So I kept going. Kate had the windows rolled down and the music turned off, and her and her and Josh, her boyfriend,

stayed in the car. RC, her brother, was on the right side of the road, and I was on the left. Within a minute of me walking, I suddenly felt like there was someone walking behind me. I turned around and no one was there. Thinking it was RC, I turned to him, but he was still on the other side of the road, on the other side of the car, so there was no way it was him. Not even 30 seconds after, I heard a baby crying. Which sent pure fear through me. Only due to the fact that we were surrounded by woods, and each house in the road sat far back into the woods. I asked Kate if she had music on, and she said no. I then asked if anyone

heard the baby and again everyone said no. Oh, that's even crazier. So at this point I'm hella creeped out and I feel like someone is behind me. So I just keep walking and occasionally turning around and checking over my shoulder. The more I walk, the closer this thing feels to me. At one point, I heard our C's start to freak out and he ran and jumped in the car, begging me to get in too. And me thinking I'm a big bully badass said no. Kate and Josh also began telling me too and again, I say no. So I keep walking alone next to the car and at this point, whatever I feel following me is like right behind me. It feels like it's breathing down my neck. It's so close that when I was

like, maybe I should get in the car and right as I think that all three of my friends start screaming and telling me to get in the car. I quickly run and jump in and Kate starts driving. When I got in, RC tells me that the reason he got in was because he and the other two heard an animalistic growl. because he and the other two heard an animalistic growl. And not only that, he saw what he described as a woman crouch down on all fours, following behind me in the woods, wearing a white stained dress. Oh, oh, oh, oh I never heard the growl, and I never saw the woman. Josh, who was sitting in the front, was crying,

and couldn't get control of himself. He said that he had a flash image of a woman with the same description standing right behind me also, and all he felt was fear in couldn't control his emotions. I felt a pure sense of dread and sadness, and I couldn't get rid of the feeling. I also felt that whatever that woman was that followed me down the road continued to follow me

for a couple blocks as we drove home. And I had to continue praying for almost 20 minutes before that feeling subsided. I also along with Kate had a feeling of wanting to turn around and stay. We didn't want to leave, which is weird because my body was screaming run, but my head was like, this is fine, it's okay,

let's just stay and hang out. That was single-handedly the most terrifying moment of my life. However, I did go back, and this was only a couple days ago. This time, I was too scared to get out of the car, but I did roll my windows down and tried listening to see if I heard anything, which I didn't. But I did see a weird string of glowing lights floating in mid-air, and then they just disappeared like nothing was ever there.

I'm not sure if I'd ever go back again, because this place is absolutely terrified me. But who knows, I love a good ghost story. Anyways, I hope you guys loved my terrifying story and get to experience true fear like that someday, or maybe not. It's not fun. LOL stay weird. Joy honey. I don't know about that. Joy. Joy.

You made me freak the fuck out. I- Oh just picturing that woman like on all fours. Yeah get out of here. Stand up. I cannot. On all fours I am. No. Like her upper out of here, stand up. I cannot, on all fours, I am, no, like her upper body strength must be unmatched. Oh, and she's just following behind you. Like, I hate that with most of my hatred and my body. Oh, yeah.

Thanks, Joy. Let's kind of leave from that, please. And let's go away from that. To a better place. Shades of Death Road. Oh, there we go. In New Jersey. Bring it to a lighter place. By the way, apparently This is not the only shades of death road So just took out. I this one is in New Jersey. I never would have known that there were several. Yeah, neither would I have so that's Sentence now nobody is like really sure how shades of death road in new jersey, which is that by the way, one of the most

haunted roads in the world. Okay, nobody sure how good. It got its name. But there's a lot of stories that have been told throughout history that could point to a possible namesake. One of those stories that is that like in the area, there was a bunch of wild cats like panthers and shit. Oh, panthers. That would chase you down and eat you. Okay.

Yeah, that's just one. Okay, that's just one. Just to start you off with. But if you've never heard of this road, I'm gonna set up like a little visual for you. It's about seven miles long and it runs along Jenny Jump State Forest. Now, along said road,

there's supposed to be this old haunted lake. And if you drive by this specific part of the road at night, you might experience a phenomena called the Great Meadows fog. Now legend has it. That when settlers first arrived on this land, they of course started battling with Native Americans because they were fucking terrible. The people battling them. Exactly. Now, they already considered this land home and many of the Native Americans, though, ended up getting killed. They were either drowned in the lake itself, or they were tossed in the lake after they were already murdered.

Oh my god. So now people driving through the road at night will see this like thick fog surrounding the area. But for some reason, like above, like where the sky is, looks like it's super bright. So you can make things out in the fog, and people will see apparitions of humans, just hovering above the lake, or walking alongside it.

And it's just like, it feels like it's like an embodiment of tragedy. It totally does. Like, you know, it's just like that's it. That's the personification of just death and trauma. It is. It's just like horrific. Yeah.

Now, other people think that Shades of Death Road got its name because a ton of people have been murdered there over the years. Yeah, that makes sense. It does. So back in the day, it actually was just simply notice Shades Road. And people think the reason for that

is that there's this area of really low-hanging trees toward the end of the road. But the trees didn't just provide shade for people driving by's to like knock at the sun in their eyes. But it also provided a hiding place for the highway robbers of the time. Yeah. They would lurk behind, not behind.

They would lurk underneath those trees and wait for people traveling to make their way down. Now once those people made it to the shady part, the crooks would come tearing from their hiding spots, they'd slit your throat if you were traveling by and steal everything that you were traveling with. Now that could be one explanation as to why of death was added to shades for me. Yeah. Makes sense. But there's actually a little more to that story that could be another explanation.

So the people who lived nearby or had to travel down the road often, they were fucking fed up with this highway robbery bullshit. Yeah, it's highway robbery legit actually. And they wanted to do something about it. So they band together and they got a hold of the robbers. And when they did, they hung them from all those low-hanging trees. Oh damn. It's also said that they would leave the bodies of these men up in the trees as a way to warn other people that this would happen to them if they started highway robbing people. What a time to be alive. Yeah, so people would like walk by and see that

and they'd be like, oh my God, I'm not gonna highway rob anybody. But also we should add of death to the end of the shades road, 100%. I mean, that's a very good deterrent, I would say. I would say so. But wait, there's more. Now another possible reason for the name of the road is actually a rather deadly malaria outbreak back in 1850. Cute. This area was filled with swamp land, I guess. And for that reason, there was a ton of

mosquitoes looming in the area, and a lot of them were infected. Those damned squeetos. Mosquitos. And this doctor, Dr. William I. Row commented back then on just how badly these people were affected by the malaria outbreak. And he said, the intermittance were very severe, and many of the residents expected the usual attacks of chills in the spring. While a family moving into the neighborhood from a non-malarial district seldom escaped the ravages of myasma in one form or another. Ooh, to like all these people were just getting lower. So it was not great. No. Now, luckily in 1884, New Jersey spent over $100,000 back then,

and they drained the swampy area, which luckily led to the death stopping for a while. But unfortunately, there would be plenty more. We just couldn't play mosquitoes. Oh, three confirmed murders have taken place in the area, like confirmed, but like, unconfirmed all at the same time. Right, I feel it.

Yeah, most of them happened around the 1920s and 30s. One man was robbed alongside the road, and he was actually killed with his own car jack for some gold that he had on him at the time. Another woman lived in the area along side the road, and he was actually killed with his own car jack. Oh, damn. For some gold that he had on him at the time. Another woman lived in the area, and she killed her husband. She decapitated him and buried his head on one side of the road, and then apparently buried his torso on the other side of the road.

Damn! And then finally, another man was shot to death and then buried in the area. Wow. His name was Bill Cummins, and from the sound of it, his case is actually still cold. They never found out why he was killed or for what reason or who did it. Whoa. So with so much deaths surrounding the area, obviously legends have been conjured over the years about different things that will happen to you as you're traveling through. Now some people say that you're gonna see the ghost of a woman

or like a teenager and she apparently died after prom as her and her friends were speeding along the road in a rainstorm. They crashed and they passed away, but people will see her her spirit still walking up and down the road wearing her tattered prom dress. Which I feel like that would just be so creepy. That is so creepy. And other people play this game where they drive along Lenepe Lake Road and they stop at this abandoned farmhouse at the end of the road. It's like a long, it's like near shades of death road.

Now, if you stop in front of the stable next to the farmhouse It's like a long, it's like near shades of death road. Now if you stop in front of the stable next to the farmhouse and you wait a second, a lot of people say that you'll see this white orb coming from the end of the road and that's when you're supposed to start driving. And the white orb is going to chase your car all the way to shades of death road. And then at some point while you're on this high speed chase together, with this white orb, it might turn red. Oh. Now, if this happens, you're gonna wish that you had not played this game, because when the light turns red, that's a sure sign that you're about to get killed.

Oh, no! Yeah. That's a spooky game. But one beautiful thing that happens on this road is that there's actually a Native American spirit guide said to actually morph into a deer and appear to you as like a way of urging you to slow down. Like you're, because, and he does this, because he knows that like there's a deer later on

like along the road that is gonna run out and that you'll crash and probably hurt the deer. So he appears to you trying to tell you to slow down. I love that. And to end this. I'm not good to married, and I know I love that so much. And to end this, apparently so many people have actually tried to steal the road sign

that locals have been forced to grease the pole up with oil or like some kind of slippery substance so that people can't steal the sign. Oh my God. So if you want to go see the road and like maybe go see the spirit guide, that's beautiful, but don't try to steal the sign. Yeah, don't try't steal the sign. Oh my God. So if you want to go see the road and maybe go see the spirit guide, that's beautiful, but don't try to steal the sign. Yeah, I don't try to steal the sign.

Because I'm just gonna get slippery hands on them. I'm just gonna get oiled up. Wow. Yeah, that's gnarly. The leaves of death road is so metal. I know, I think if the other one is like of substance, I'll cover it for the next spooky one. Yeah, we're gonna have to look at the other one for sure. Yeah.

Guys, thank you for these road suggestions. And please send us more to a morbid podcast at gmail.com and just make sure that you put spooky roads in the title. In the title, I started to feel like I was a disjointed. Guys, you need to know. But was a disjointed. Nice, you need some. Oh, ha. But no, you've done a amazing job. Guys, we have hundreds and hundreds of roads to choose from.

I love that. So we can keep this going. It's been so fun, because I have not heard of any of these roads. No, me either. This is opening us up to a whole new, like, fun thing here. I feel like the next edition that we should do should just be a Massachusetts edition. Yeah, it should. And like, we should travel to them. edition. Yeah, it should. And like we should travel to them. We

should. Let's go. Do the legends. Do them. All right, that's the next bookie reds. Okay. When that's coming out, we'll let you know. We hope you enjoyed this one. And we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird. Keep it so weird that if you want to go to these roads, you do go to these roads, but definitely don't steal the signs. It definitely don't leave your baby crying by a bridge because you're going to have instant regret and then you're going to want to go back and get it. And it's not going to be there anymore.

And then it's going to be the sight of everybody driving down that road and finding you and your baby. And it's just like, do you really want that to be your life or the rest of the afterlife? I feel like you don't. You don't want to be a legend like that and you don't want to be trespassing. So don't do that.

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