Morbid - Episode 383: The Framing of Kelli Peters

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

For this episode of Morbid Ash has a bit of a different tale for us. This is the case of Kelli Peters; a mom, the PTA president, and framed woman. The afternoon of February 17th 2010 started ...off so normal for Kelli. She pulled into the school she’d been volunteering at for years and started getting to work with the kids. Out of nowhere, Kelli’s afternoon took a turn. She was called to the office where a police officer waited for her, and when she got there he wanted to know whether or not he could search her car. When he did he uncovered a ceramic pipe, 17 grams of pot, 11 percocet pills and 29 vicodin pills. But for the first time in probably the history of ever, the drugs really weren't Kelli’s. She had been framed. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 Mina Lena, we're early risers these days. Early birdies. I mean, we've pretty much been early risers for a while now, but yeah. But, um, so I'm getting geriatric and around like three, four in the afternoon. I'm just like, I don't know my name. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not. We usually, like three, four in the afternoon, I'm just like, I don't know my name. Oh, yeah, I'm not. We usually, like we've told you before, we record in the mornings usually and that's when we're at our like, most sprightly.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Oh, sprightly. I want to say, and now it gets weird, it gets weirder, which I guess is good, because it can get weird in a fun way. But we don't really know how to talk at this time of day. So it can get weird in a weird way. Yeah. But we don't really know how to talk at this time of day. So it can get weird and a weird way. Yeah. But here we are. And speaking of weird, weird in a good way. It's you. Let's talk about you. You're weird in a good way. It moves. We went to the PO box. And my goodness. Are you guys even real? My goodness, guys. Like I'm wearing two-news things.
Starting point is 00:03:06 The jewelry that are like the most beautiful, thoughtful things. Yeah, you guys just like, and you write such nice things and say like, you know, keep being yourself and all that. And you're like, it's just like really, I'm telling you, every time we read something like that, or anything like that, where always it just like sets our day off, right?
Starting point is 00:03:25 It really does. We've been bouncing through the day. Yeah, it just feels good. Yeah, so just know that everything that you've said and sent and done and all that stuff has really made every day awesome. So you're making a difference. It's so appreciated that there needs to be a new word
Starting point is 00:03:44 for appreciated quite honestly. True because I get overwhelmed with the sense of happiness. Yeah, like truly. And a good way, not overwhelmed. Yeah. Oh, I'm so overwhelmed. No, it's overwhelmed in the best way. Right now I'm wearing skeleton hand earrings.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. That were sent to us, and I'm wearing a witchy woman bracelet that I love. Yes, and somebody sent us, and we're gonna thank everybody, obviously. Yeah. We have like the little tags that go along with everything next to your thing, so. But I got like this cool snakering and the witchy woman bracelet.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And also somebody like crocheted us ghosts. Yes. With little witch hats, and they are sitting in front of, please know. And again, we like put everything with all the things so we know, but like right off the top of my head, I can't, I don't know everybody's name that sent it, but the little ghost that's crocheted with a witch hat is sitting on our pod desk in front of us while we pod.
Starting point is 00:04:38 And Alena can attest to this. There's something about, I took the one with the purple hat if you sent it, so you know, there's something about this guy that I'm looking at right here. She's holding him like a child right now. There's something about him, and I just, I love him. This ghost has soothed ashes soul. Yeah, well many times in the last couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah, I've had like a lot of anxiety in the last couple of weeks. She'll just grab him. I literally grab him and I just, yeah, him, and I'm not really like, like I love a good stuffed animal when I was younger, but I'm not like a big stuffed animal really now. This is my guy.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah, this is my man. That is your man. Stuff a side true, I'm just kidding. No. But honestly, like you guys just, you rule, and you've made us feel really appreciated, and I just hope that you feel just as appreciated because it's absurd.
Starting point is 00:05:27 How much we appreciate you. It is. And wait, I also just like, today's been such a good day. I really want to shout out my wedding photographer. Like, I just have to because we got a sneak peek of our engagement pictures today. And like, all of you should use this woman as your photographer because number one, she's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:05:45 She made us feel so comfortable within like five minutes and these fucking photos. They came out so good. And these are just the sneak peeks that we got sent to us. So our photographer that we're using is Molly Quill. And if you wanna follow her on Instagram, it's Molly Quill Photography. And if you don't do that, then I think you're lame.
Starting point is 00:06:02 She is amazing. Like, can't wait for you guys to see some of these. Cause I was so nervous and I know like, anybody else getting married, it's like, it's a crazy process. Yeah. And I was so nervous like, cause I was like, what if I don't like
Starting point is 00:06:15 how I look in the pictures? Like I'm not, I'm not at the weight that I wanna be at. And you know, like, what if my face looks weird here and blah blah blah, let me tell you, none of that matters. Cause you have the right photographer and if you are in love with the right person, none of that matters at all. I love that.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Like, Molly made me feel like a goddess in these pictures. You look like a goddess in those pictures. Shut up, thank you. And Drew looks like a handsome prince. And Drew is just so fucking cute. I want a punch hit. I'm a... Me too.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm not going to. Yeah, not nice. But, I'm just happy. I'm so glad you're happy. I'm glad that to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. Yeah, it's not nice. But I'm just happy. I'm so glad you're happy. I'm glad that you're happy. I'm happy. My little matron. My matron.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Technically, Elaine is my matron of honor. I'm like, how rude is that? Yeah, it just doesn't sound great. Isn't that the rudest thing to say to somebody? Yeah. When they announce you, I'm going to tell them not to say that. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I just have two maids. I'm still a maid. I know. Even that is like the opposite. I know the truth that it's all. I'm going to call you guys that. Thank you. I appreciate that. I just have two maids. I'm still a maid. I know. Even not as like a maid. I know the truth that it's all the way. I'm gonna call you guys my humans of honor. I love that. Yeah. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You're gonna make your bitches of honor. Oh my god. Imagine if I had you guys announced I might let you. I might let you. Yeah. I'll do that. Please do that. I will.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Wow. Wow. When he playing his fun because you can do it ever the fuck you want. Yeah. It's your damn day. It's your damn day. But this whole episode is not about me. It is ass. It is ass.
Starting point is 00:07:30 It's hard to say. It is ass. So there's that. You know what, Mikey, my little brother, I understand why you called me that for the first three years of your life. Ass. He used to call me assly.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Yeah, you did. Yeah, a little shit. But I get it because I just couldn't even say my own name. Yeah, you know? That's where we are right now. It is an ash-centric episode, and I'm trying to get comfortable. I was gonna say, and can you hear this? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:07:51 The chair, the everything. I'm happy, okay? I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. All right, we have an ash-centric episode today, and it's kind of honestly different than anything
Starting point is 00:08:01 we've really ever done before. Ooh. Because this is gonna be like an episode about somebody that was framed. Ooh. Yes, which kind of gives it a win-trick. In-trike. The spoiler episode title would also give it away.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I have to move again, so I'm sorry, okay? These chairs, we need new ones, they're not comfortable. I can't look at my computer and also look at you if I don't move. So I moved. There you go. I will not squeeze again. Squeaky, you go. I will not squeak again. Squeakity, squeakity, squeakity.
Starting point is 00:08:29 All right. So this episode is about the framing of Kelly Peters. Ooh, have you heard anything about this? No. Nor had I. I actually don't even remember how I found this case because it was a while ago. All right, there we go.
Starting point is 00:08:41 But I did find it. It was an interesting tale. Yeah, you're welcome. We're both like, yeah, I don't know what this is. Well, I know what it is. You know what it is. I just don't know how I found it. I did probably Google. But I did find a great source in the LA Times articles written by Christopher Gofford or Gofford. I'm sorry if I didn't say that correctly. He did. It was cool. How they broken up. It was like broken up into chapters on the other time. I love when they do that. I'm going to link in the show notes for sure. Yeah. Incredible. Six-part article. And then I also found a great source in Kelly Peter's
Starting point is 00:09:15 book, which is entitled, I'll get you, Drugs Lies and the Terrorizing of a PTA mom. Wow. So I see where we are now. What gave it away? I don't know. What do you say about feeling? But I used a bunch of other great sources that I'll link in the show notes, but for time purposes, let's get rolling. Shall we get into this PTA moms? Let's go. Yeah. On February 17, 2010, Kelly Peters was where she usually was on weekday afternoon. She was rounding up children for their afternoon activities. Kelly had a completely different career before her daughter Sydney started school. Before Sydney started school, she had been on the finance end of things and worked in the mortgage industry.
Starting point is 00:09:59 It was like a good job, but it wasn't really Kelly's calling. So when she and her husband Bill decided to move to Irvine, they got an apartment and decided that in order for Kelly to become more of a part of her daughter's school experience, she was going to quit her finance job and dedicate her time to volunteering at Sydney School. Okay. Really great. Yeah. Bill would continue running the restaurant that he owned and on the side, Kelly would operate her small business
Starting point is 00:10:34 only for the Groovy. What? She painted tied hygiene. Okay. She was basically, she's kind of like a hippie which is fucking right. Or like was a hippie at one point in time. So she had a side business called Only for the Groovy. Only for the Groovy. Yeah. So if you're not feeling you should start a business like that. I would love to yeah I don't know what time I will do that with only for the group. You do weird things Yeah, the time that doesn't exist exactly. So maybe I will you can do it. Thank you What I believe in you pep talk. You know, I'm here to believe in you So so they decided that they were gonna stay in their apartment She would be able to leave her job runner-side job
Starting point is 00:11:03 But since they were in an apartment they they could have, you know, a little more leeway. Yeah. And they were like, you know, being permanent renters was not ideal, but being more of her daughter's life outweighed the negatives that came along with it. Yeah. What if you were trafficked into a cult over shot nine times, or fell in love with a vampire, or went into a minor surgery and woke up one week later, paralyzed? What would you do? I'm Whit Missildine, the creator of this is actually happening, a podcast from Wondry that brings you extraordinary true stories of life-changing events, told by the people who lived them. From a young man that dunes his entire future with one choice, to a woman who survived a notorious
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Starting point is 00:13:11 Slacy, follow the rewatcher, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen early and add free on the Amazon music or Wondery app. Darn, ee-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e and she had really great ideas too, so in no time she became president of the PTA and also had a critical role in eventually orchestrating a program for the kids that offered cooking, sports, and art classes. Oh, cool. Yeah, really cool of that.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So a few weeks before that specific afternoon that I mentioned in the beginning, Kelly was getting all the kids lined up to go inside after their tennis lesson. It was almost time for the parents to come and pick them up. When Kelly thought that everybody was all rounded up, they headed inside. But shortly after returning inside, she realized that there was one little boy who did not line up.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So the tennis coach, excuse me, who had just worked with the kids, realized that this little boy was still outside and brought him to the front office. When his mother Jill Easter arrived to pick him up, she was a little late, so he was still sitting in the office and Kelly was waiting with him. And she could kinda tell that something was up,
Starting point is 00:14:33 so she was like, she asked her son what happened. So once he filled her in, she was like, well now I wanna talk to Kelly to make sure that I have this whole story 100% because like, did my kid get left outside? Yeah, I'd be pissed. I'd be pissed. Very angry.
Starting point is 00:14:47 So Kelly was like, yes, he had been slow to line up and this was really rare for this to happen, but unfortunately it had and she apologized profusely for this. She assured Jill Easter that the tennis coach had brought the boy right inside once he saw him and he had only been left outside for a short time. A matter of minutes. Still, that's a little boy and he was left outside and that is not okay.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And a million things can happen in a matter of minutes. Oh yeah, absolutely. And we know that to be true, of course. Yeah. So Kelly later remembered, again, apologizing profusely to Jill and her son too and thought that the conversation was over and everything had been smoothed over, but she thought wrong. Jill Easter had started walking away,
Starting point is 00:15:30 but a thought entered her mind, and she had one more thing to talk to Kelly about. What was the deal with the tennis coach who brought her son to the front office? She said, had he been inappropriate with my son at all? And Kelly was like, no, absolutely not. She was like, I know this coach personally. We've worked together for years.
Starting point is 00:15:48 He would never be inappropriate with a child. So Jill was like, okay, and she walked away again. But this time she didn't really seem as a short. And Kelly was a little more concerned because the whole time that Jill was talking to her, she had this same smile plastered on her face, even though she seemed like she was irritated. Oh, that's a little scary.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It is a little scary. It was unnerving to Kelly, but she had kids and a job to get back to, so she was like, all right. And that was probably why she was a little less patient the third time Jill Easter approached her. This time, not with her child, and this time she wanted to speak outside away from the children. So her and Kelly made their way outside, and she started pushing the point about the tennis
Starting point is 00:16:31 teacher more. She was like, are you sure that nothing inappropriate happened? And Kelly was like, I'm absolutely positive. And she was like, well then why was my son crying and why was his face dirty? Kelly later said that the boy had not been crying at all in her care and that his face wasn't all that dirty. It was just like six-year-old boy messy. Like there wasn't mud on his face or anything like that. But Jill saw it differently. To her, it looked like her child's face had been forced down into the mud. That's what
Starting point is 00:17:01 she glades. This is stressing me out like a lot. It's stressful. Ah, don't worry. Nothing happened to this little boy. Because I'm just like, yeah, should have started out with that. Nothing happened to this little boy. He did get left outside for a couple minutes after everybody got lined up and that's not okay.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Which I'm gonna be honest, I would be furious and my kid would be out of that. Yeah, situation. Absolutely. But I wouldn't do anything further. No, that would just be it. No, that would be it. Yeah kid would be out of that. Yeah, situation. Absolutely. But I wouldn't do anything further. No, that would just be it. No, that would be it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 The trust has been broken, you can't handle it, so I'm gonna leave. Exactly. Exactly. Because that's what you should do when something happens like that when no one was hurt, nothing big occurred. If nothing happened to this child, you know what I mean? If you feel like you want wanna remove him from the situation,
Starting point is 00:17:45 that's fine, you go about your day. Yeah, exactly. Let the thing continue. Other people can make their decisions. Exactly. And that's where you and Julie stir a little different. Oh, I see. So she was like, I think that it looks like he was forced
Starting point is 00:17:57 down in the mud, like his face is covered and dirt. And Kelly was like, it's not at all. Like, what? We wouldn't have left him covered and dirt, even if he had tripped in dirt. Yeah. No. But Jill would not stop pressing the issue
Starting point is 00:18:09 and it was getting weird and Kelly had enough. She was like, I'm not gonna continue to entertain that something happened with your son and the tennis coach. Absolutely not. It did not happen. So she said to Jill one more time that nothing inappropriate had happened
Starting point is 00:18:24 and that she was done with this conversation it would not happen. So she said to Jill one more time that nothing inappropriate had happened and that she was done with this conversation, it would not continue. So Jill did not change her irritated smile, but she turned to walk away. And before she did, she said, how do you sleep at night with the way that you treat people? And then she was walking away, she yelled to Kelly, I'll get you for this. Ooh, yep. So Kelly was understandably really freaked out by the latter part of her interaction with Jill
Starting point is 00:18:50 and really upset about the whole thing, specifically the accusations that Jill had made against not only her, but the tennis coach. Yeah. She was really shaken up by this. And it's like, that's such a, that's such a, they can actual super villain thing to say, I'll get you for this.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It's a lot. Or it's like the Wicked Witch of the say. I'll get you for this. It's a lot. Or it's like the wick in which in the West. I'll get you for this, my pretty. Yeah, and your little dog too. And your little dog too. She was like, I am shook. Yeah, I'd be nervous. So she spoke to her co-workers about it.
Starting point is 00:19:15 She talked to some of the staff at school and they were like, listen, you can't let that happen again, but don't worry about your interaction with her too much. Like, things like this happen from time to time with parents. It usually blows over pretty quickly. Yeah. And Kelly was like, okay, but she was still not so sure.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Something about this whole interaction made her think that this wasn't going to be a cut and dry situation. Yeah, when she, when somebody says, I'll get you for this. That's probably not going to be over conversation. Yeah. So Jillie Starr, much like she had promised, wasted absolutely no time starting a campaign against Kelly. Yeah, see, this is where I don't understand people like this.
Starting point is 00:19:55 No. If something happened, by all means, I would burn the entire world down. Absolutely. That would be the end of all of them. Oh, yeah, I would start more than a campaign. But if something did, of course, that I am, I would be pissed. Yeah, I don't care how long it was if you leave my six-year-old outside. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:16 And you're in charge of them. They're never going to be in your charge again. That's just the way it is. I get that. I get that. But even if that happened, like I said, I would never start a campaign against someone. No, I would just be involved. I wouldn't do that anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So I don't understand, like when that stuff happens now, with people I don't understand starting campaigns against somebody. No. It's a weird waste of time. It's like a very weird fixation. It also just says so much more about you than it does in a person.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Well, that's a thing. You're campaigning against. Like just remove yourself and your son from that situation and let other people make their decision. If they want to leave their children there and everything turns out great, then that is their business. Right. Like you can make your decision, but other people I'd never understand these kinds of things. No, and honestly when I'm approached by somebody like trying to get me to think one way because of their experience, I'm like, oh I'm approached by somebody like trying to get me to think one
Starting point is 00:21:05 way because of their experience, I'm like, oh, I want to experience my own thing. Yeah, just like, let me make my choice. Yeah, this isn't a cult. You don't need to bring, wash me into thinking how you think. But Jill, that's what she wanted to do. But it's like, did she really say, and sorry, if I'm going ahead. Oh, no, you're okay. You can say like, shut the fuck up. I would literally never. But if like, did she, do you think she really thought something happened? It's hard to say. Okay. And I think it will become, it will become clearer as the episode goes on that it is hard to say. I think that Jill Easter loved her children. Yeah. Obviously. Because if she really believed something happened. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 because if she really believed something happened, did I'm like, so the thing is, and we're gonna get into it, there was an investigation, that there were multiple investigations done and all three investigations, and I don't wanna get too far, but all three investigations proved
Starting point is 00:21:59 that absolutely nothing happened. This child was not distraught, like he was completely fine. So I don't know. I don't know if it's hard. I don't know if her brain wanted to trick her into thinking that something had happened. It's easy to get that way when you're the worked up.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Yeah, and I, yeah, you'll see. We'll go to it. We'll see. So she starts this campaign against Kelly, the day after this whole incident had gone down. Jill was at the school handing out fires to parents accusing Kelly of deliberately law and this is in quotations, deliberately locking her son outside of the school, calling him slow to his face, and dragging him out back and bloodying his knuckles.
Starting point is 00:22:41 What? So this incident turned in from he got left outside for a couple minutes, too long, wrong, like we've said. But it got escalated into, she deliberately locked him outside, called him slow to his face, which I think that came from. She said he was slow to line up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:59 She was not saying, she wasn't being like in any way. Yeah. Delicious with what she was saying. Then saying, bloodying his knuckles. Like how do you even bloody someone's knuckles? Especially if you've already locked them outside,
Starting point is 00:23:12 I don't understand. Like, bloodying his knuckles. She said, she dragged him out back and bloody his knuckles. Wow. I think there would probably be footage of that. Wow. Yeah. I just picture her standing with her arms crossed
Starting point is 00:23:26 Regina George style as she is watching everybody read the flyers. Yeah. And I'm like standing at the top of the stairway. Yeah, just like. But the school's principal Heather Phillips got a call about this, all this commotion. And once she was briefed, she went outside to confront Jill herself. She was like, Jill, this is her ass man.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah. And you need to get off of this property. Like, you got to stop. Jill and attorney told the principal that she was fully within her rights, and that she was going to continue to do this until Kelly Peters was either fired or left. That is a plot twist. I did not know she was an attorney. Whoa. He is an attorney. So she threw in, oh, excuse me, she threw in that she was actually considering making a bumper sticker for her car laying out what she'd written on her flyers. Like she was not done here. And she spent the next few days handing out those flyers.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And when she ran out of those, she would just hang outside of the school and talk to any parent who would listen about her version of events and how outraged she was that the school was not doing anything about it. But that wasn't the truth. The school had done something about it. They launched an investigation into her reports as did the after-school enrichment director who oversaw Kelly and the volunteers and the Irvine police launched their own investigation. So the school did the parent company of the after school program did or like the enrichment program did and the police did.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Wow. All three investigations founded the same results. Neither Kelly nor the tennis coach had done anything inappropriate to this boy. No crime was committed. And while Jill had said that her husband had been left outside for 20 minutes, all three investigations found that the time was similar, or excuse me, was closer to five to eight minutes, which is still a very long time to be left outside unattended, but it's not 20 minutes. But it's not 20 minutes. And the other thing is, I don't know
Starting point is 00:25:22 if this was like a gated area. So, you know, if I would hope that it was, I would hope that it was. I would think like that, like even eight minutes, like leaving a six-year-old outside for eight minutes when they don't know if they're being let in. And again, it would be terrifying for the six-year-old, like a little like, why am I locked out? Yeah. Kind of thing. But I just like, one, you don't need to make it worse. No. Like eight minutes is already pretty rough. That's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:25:51 That doesn't look great. No. For anybody involved in this situation, no kid should be left outside at a school. No. That's just the way it is. Eight minutes is bad. So why are you upping it to 20 to look crazy?
Starting point is 00:26:01 Right. Because like, eight minutes is bad. You don't need to elongate the time. Yeah. Now it's just looking. Now it's just looking. It's a rough amount of time. Because like, eight minutes is bad. You don't need to elongate the time. Yeah. Now it's just looking. It's a rough amount of time. And now it's just looking wild. Like 20 minutes is, you don't need to lie.
Starting point is 00:26:10 No. And then what is happening? Like why are you adding all of this stuff on? And that's so messed up to do to your kid. Oh, it absolutely. Like are you trying to get your kid to believe something happened? Like what is going on? Well, into everybody that was like undergoing these investigations spoke with this little boy.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah, so he's having to go through all this. He's having to go through this, but all three investigations, literally they were like, he wasn't bothered by this at all. Yeah. Like, it happened and he was probably scared when it happened. But he, honestly, he probably wasn't that affected by it. No.
Starting point is 00:26:40 More like a parent thing, that's exactly. But all of them were like, yeah, no, like, he was completely fine. Yeah. Like, he wasn, that effect. Exactly. But all of them were like, yeah, no, like he was completely fine. Yeah, like he wasn't even crying. Damn. And there was no mud on his face whatsoever. This is just so weird. It's the crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Like this is so weird. This will be the weirdest beginning. Oh, we are only going to get straight now. I'm just like, what? So Kelly, she made a mistake and she was very distraught over this entire thing. Yeah. So she actually went to the school and offered to resign.
Starting point is 00:27:10 She was like, I fucked up. I feel like I should resign. I'm making the school look bad. Like, I can't believe this has all happened because of me. I'm freaking out. It was a mistake. It was a mistake. No one was hurt luckily. And I'm sure she never had it happen again. I was gonna say and I'm sure that will make you look
Starting point is 00:27:26 a hundred more times before you go inside. So this school was like, you don't need to resign over this. Absolutely not like these things do happen. So Jill Easter was still not happy though. And now took things even further. She petitioned the court for a restraining order against Kelly on the grounds of stalking.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Wait, yes, I did say that Jill petitioned the court for a restraining order against Kelly for stalking. Jill claimed that Kelly was now stalking her and her son and had gone as far as to even threaten Kelly, uh, Jill's life. Wow, this has escalated. There was no evidence of such and so the petition was denied, but Jill was still not done. Now she filed a civil suit against Kelly,
Starting point is 00:28:12 staying true to her word that she was going to get her. She also filed against the school, the school district and the parent company of the after school enrichment program. So in the civil suit, she and her husband, who was also an attorney, claimed that Kelly had falsely imprisoned their son and that the event left him with emotional distress
Starting point is 00:28:35 and extreme and severe mental anguish. This is so disturbing. It's the most bizarre. This is so disturbing. It is the most bizarre. This is so disturbing. It is the most bizarre. Like, I'm just about to loss. I don't even know what to say here. It's wild.
Starting point is 00:28:52 So it was enough for Kelly to have to hire an attorney at this point. But eventually, the Easter's, that's them, Jill and her husband's last name, the Easter's dropped the suit when it became clear that they weren't going to win. Yeah. So now let's go back to February 17th, 2010. The day started off like any other day. Kelly drove her PT cruiser to the school.
Starting point is 00:29:12 She got ready to spend the afternoon keeping the kids busy with their activities. These days she was sure to double and triple account each head as they got ready to line up. And the day was going on like normal, but then things shifted quite dramatically. Kelly was called to the school and made administrators office. And when she walked in, there was an Irvine police officer standing there. Oh, she was told that the officer needed to speak with her privately. And Kelly's first thought was that something had happened to her husband because her husband traveled for work. And she was like, oh my gosh, was he in some kind of accident. They quickly assured her that wasn't the case.
Starting point is 00:29:49 That wasn't why they were there. So the police officer asked Kelly his first question and she is taken aback. He wanted to know if he went in her car and searched it, what he would find. And he said, Kelly was like, you wouldn't find much of anything, but you can go ahead and search it, like feel free. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:12 So she follows the officer out to the parking lot, but she's like getting nervous and confused. Yeah, because even if you know you haven't done anything, but you're like, why? What is happening? Like, anytime, it's like when you get pulled over, for like barely doing anything, like maybe you're speeding or something, and you get pulled over and you're like, am I going at it? Why am I being at it? Like anytime, it's like when you get pulled over for like barely doing anything, like maybe you're speeding or something and you get pulled over and you're like,
Starting point is 00:30:28 am I gonna be like arrested? Like you just like, you have no idea because it's such a scary situation. Anytime it's like a person of authority asking you to do something, it's like you're like, yeah, why am I being made to do this? Well, and she's walking outside and she sees that there's a cop car with its lights turned on,
Starting point is 00:30:44 parked behind her car so she is not gonna be able sees that there's a cop car with its lights turned on, parked behind her car. So she is not gonna be able to get out and a helicopter flying overhead. So she's like, what the fuck is going on right now? So the officer opens the doors and takes a look around and it does not take him long to exit the vehicle, holding a pouch that had been tucked behind the driver's seat. It kind of sounds like it was in the pocket on the back of the driver's seat. It kind of sounds like it was in the pocket
Starting point is 00:31:05 on the back of the driver's seat. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Inside the pouch that he took out was one ceramic pipe, like kind of like what you would like smoke drugs out of. 17 grams of pot, 11 per cassette pills, and 29 viking and pills. Oh, I'm gonna give you that round up one more time.
Starting point is 00:31:25 A ceramic pipe, 17 grams of pot, 11 per cassette pills and 29 vikin' and pills. The weirdest medley. Yeah, that one could find. That's a strange concoction of things. Now the possession of pills were enough to be a federal offense. So that was bad, that's really bad. So everything gets spread out on the roof of pills were enough to be a federal offense. Oh. So that was bad.
Starting point is 00:31:45 That's really bad. So everything gets spread out on the roof of the car, and Kelly is sobbing and begging the officer to get that away from there. She's pleading with him, and she explains over and over how she has no idea where these drugs came from. She has no idea who they belong to. She absolutely does not do drugs. Her husband doesn't do drugs. She doesn't even think she has friends that do drugs. Her husband doesn't do drugs.
Starting point is 00:32:05 She doesn't even think she has friends that do drugs. Oh no, she's losing it. Oh, I feel so much anxiety for her right now. When you're trying desperately to say you didn't do something and you know you didn't do it. Yeah. Oh, that's the worst feeling. Is when you just wanna like scratch your own face off
Starting point is 00:32:22 because you just wanna be like, ah, this is not mine. This is not mine. And then the other thing is, so they're taking all of this into evidence and she's freaking out and she's getting taken inside to do a bunch of field sobriety tests.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Oh my God. And the whole time all she can think about is her 10 year old daughter Sidney who goes to this school hearing about this or seeing it and just in general having the word spread that she was some kind of, and this is her words, common criminal. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:49 She's losing it. Oh my god, my whole body is like stressed out right now, right? So like I said, she's taken inside for all of these, like field sobriety tests, and the reason she's taken inside for these, as well as further questioning, was because the Irvine police had received a call not long ago that came in from a concerned parent of a child at the school. This parent was a man who identified himself as VJ Chan Draschker, I'm sorry if I said that wrong, and said that he had actually seen the PT cruvr driving erratically in the school's parking lot. He saw
Starting point is 00:33:27 drugs in the vehicle and was able to identify the woman driving as Kelly Peters, the president of the school's PTA. Oh boy, he even provided the police with her license plate number. And he said he had seen all of this. Couldn't a lot to see. Using how he would have seen drugs tucked into the back of the driver's seat, but like, okay, totally. So Kelly passes all the sobriety tests,
Starting point is 00:33:50 and she was told, and then she's told what time the call had come into the school reporting her, and she was like, yeah, I had been in the school for already 30 minutes when you got that call. So that doesn't really make any sense. And this person said, like, I'm watching her drive. Like, erratically, I see drugs in the car. Like, I see all of this.
Starting point is 00:34:09 What? Multiple staff members at the school were able to confirm that she absolutely had been in the building at this point. So they had to go and search her apartment. They're like, we have to search her apartment. Yeah, you can't just point. You can't take someone's word like, no, those are mine. No, okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Oh, just screw us in the book. So she allowed them to, and they ask obviously, like if they can have permission and she's like, yeah, like I have nothing to hide. Or at least I think I don't. Yeah, now she's probably like Jesus, like, yeah, I thought there was nothing in there, and now I'm sending them into my home.
Starting point is 00:34:42 That's the thing. She did say though that she did leave her car unlocked from time to time. Like she was like, I just didn't really think about it, my home. That's the thing. She did say, though, that she did leave her car unlocked from time to time. Like, she was like, I just didn't really think about it, especially when we're in the school. Everybody lock your cars. Well, not just because people will play at drugs in them, but because they'll hide in your backseat and kill you.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Lock your cars. So luckily, there was nothing incriminating found in the search of Kelly's apartment, not a single drug or any kind of paraphernalia. So the cops are like, she's got all the makings of a drug dealer in her backseat, but nothing at home. And at home, there was the specific pill pouches that were found with all the drugs in them. They were like bagged up separately.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And she didn't have those baggies in her house. She had different baggies. So they were like, the other like that. Not a dozen checks. So they were like, the other, like that's what we're doing. That doesn't check. So Kelly also informs the officer. She's like, neither me and my husband's are drug users. Like, you're not gonna find anything in here.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I don't know who would have put that parcel in my car. And then she said, oh, wait a second. She didn't know one person who might be capable of setting her up. Maybe someone who said, I'll get you. She said, I have one enemy, a parent at the school named Jill Easter. So now a little background on Jill Easter.
Starting point is 00:35:56 What, let's talk about Jill. Jill? I've been really wanting to say, she's Yama Pele. She's Yama Pele. John said it the other day and I was like, I'm gonna say that more. Also, Jon said it with like a really good friend-shack so hotty-o-lanes eyes are real spicy right now. And I was like, can you learn more from it?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Aw, she loves it. Aw, just kidding. That wasn't supposed to come out like that. It was supposed to be more like, aw, but it came on us, aw, aw, my fucking goose. What just happened to me? I'm scary.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I'm not well bitched. Oh man, that's funny. Oh, not to Jim Appell Jill. Jim Appell not Jill. The Jim Appell Ashkel. They rhymes. Tuzha Pell, Jilly Stur. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I don't know. Anyways, I'm losing it. Jill and Kelly were cut from two very different cloths. Kelly was said by many to have a heart of gold, whereas Jill had been known to be a stoic standoffish inaccessible ice queen. Oof, those were literally what, like the adjectives used by the people closest
Starting point is 00:37:00 to her to describe her. Oh no. So that's bad if anybody used any of those words to describe me other than maybe stoic, I'd be like, wow, I should get new friends or a new personality. What's your personality? Bitch, I don't know, I couldn't find her birthday. Oh, I want to see if I can track it down. Do it, Jill Easter.
Starting point is 00:37:17 So there were people who even went as far as describing her as quote, a bit of a spoiled brat who was used to getting her way. Ooh, so I think that's kind of where this whole thing is from. That's not great. Jill had gotten her law degree from one of the best schools in America, which is UC Berkeley.
Starting point is 00:37:34 And she worked for a time as a corporate and securities lawyer at a firm in Palo Alto. Hope that's true. Palo Alto. Palo Alto. Thank you, geography queen. I might have said it wrong and I might have just steered you into the storm, but I'm hoping that I didn problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. I hope that's not a problem. She worked there. But that was actually where she met her husband Kent, who she would eventually have three children with. [♪ Music playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, playing in background, Now once she became a mom, Jill put an end to her lockery and tried her new hand at becoming a stay-at-home mom. Jill and Kent were like incredibly well off people. They had a beautiful home. They lived in a very bougie neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:38:36 They were killing it. And also Kent was a partner at a very successful and powerful law firm in Orange County. So they were doing the damn thing. Yeah, they're a bit of a power couple. Kelly came up and lived a more blue collar lifestyle. She was born in 1961 in Reno, Nevada. I don't know if you're supposed to say Nevada or Nevada. I think it's Nevada. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:00 To people from Nevada. Okay, cool. I grew up saying Nevada. I did too. But I've been told many times it's Nevada. So, Nevada. Okay, cool. I grew wrong saying Nevada. I did. But I've been told many times. It's Nevada. So Nevada. Nevada is honestly more fun to say. So when Nevada just feels right to me, but I don't live there. So I can't say, man, I don't know. Just like you can't say, Warchester, because that's not how you say it. No. Well, Kelly was from Nevada.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And her father was an insurance salesman who also played drums part-time in a band, which is pretty fucking rad. Wow, okay. Kelly's mom actually would take her to her father shows. I love that. She just like take her on tour. And so Kelly grew up loving music
Starting point is 00:39:40 and she also loved art and animals. She rode horses and she learned to take care of them from her mom who was a part-time horse trainer. Aww. So Kelly was like really always taking care of everybody around her, animals and people. She learned how to take care of kids by helping out with her three younger brothers.
Starting point is 00:39:56 And then she and Bill met when she was about 25 years old and working on Newport Beach. They'd always had like a really loving relationship. So many people described their marriage as a fairy tale romance. Oh, I love that. And they were married in 96. And by 2000, Sydney was born.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And as we know, just like Jill, Kelly also wanted to be a stay-at-home mom and left her career for it. But that was like literally the only thing the two of them shared in common. Awesome. So a few of Kelly's friends had warmed her about Jill. She would stop at nothing to get her way. And in the weeks and months leading up to the drug
Starting point is 00:40:31 bust of her car, Kelly would learn that to be true. Whenever they ran into each other at school, Jill would just stare menacingly at Kelly. She would mutter insults under her breath at Kelly. Sometimes if she wasn't up for like too much of an interaction, she'd actually just flip the bird at Kelly. Just like at school. Wow. I wish that you would watch Big Little Lies because it is giving that.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Ooh. With them. I know the, I know like the gist of. Yeah. So that kind of makes sense actually. You watch the first episode of Big Little Lies and like immediately I'm set in this story, you're just in here.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And you're right, you can't really find your birthday. No, you can't. So it's hard. I don't know what her sign is. I'm not gonna speculate because it's only gonna get crazier and I would offend anybody who signed up all the signs. I'm also always offending people with their signs. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I'm the fucking Gemini. So offend me too. Like I'm made for it, man. Yeah, exactly. And also like, I'm always offending people just by like being opening more Nostas. So it happens. This capricorn vibes. Yes. Me, Michele was a capricorn. She might have been. She might have been. She's No, she's like a yeah. So we're like, I'm there I go. That's the way I go. Shut up Ash. So we're like, there I go. That's the way I go. Just shut up, Ash. So Kelly explained these run-ins that she had with Jill to the officers in her apartment.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And she also told them about some more recent harassment that she'd received. She couldn't prove that it was from Jill, but she obviously had a feeling. She started getting these emails to her personal email account and to her PTA one that she had through the school from all kinds of different senders. It was basically like bots attacking her for the people growing up in the nowadays.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Can you imagine spending this much time on anything? No. Literally anything. No, and if I was going to spend this much time on anything, it would be something to like add value to my life and not terrorize another human being. So these people are emailing her saying, you better hope that I never run into you in a dark alley. What?
Starting point is 00:42:31 At least, like, well, I don't really hang out in dark alley. So also, are you just like an animated character from like a, you know, 60s television show? Yes. Twirling your mustache? Yeah, like she's twirling the ends, exactly. They would also send things like, you're lucky it wasn't my child.
Starting point is 00:42:47 You hurt because I would handle this myself. I mean, girl, here's the thing. Like if she actually says she didn't, like the investigation has proven she didn't the background to pull investigation. And to me, it seems like she's got a pretty good, like solid history and background behind her to kind of,
Starting point is 00:43:05 especially along with the investigation, say that this was just a, a very big mistake that was remedied. No one was hurt. Right, that's it. Exactly. And it's like, God, like, my goodness, like, she didn't hurt anybody.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Like, you would think that she had, like, broken this child's arm in the middle of a Wendy's. Because that's the thing, it's like, there doesn't seem to be any hurt that happened here. I understand rage in that moment, being like, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, I would lose my shit. But I do not understand the level of rage
Starting point is 00:43:39 that this reaches. No, because it's a very easy, if that's what happened, then you say, okay, we're done in this school. I hope you know that like you fucked up and he will not be coming back. Exactly. Thank you. We'll be figuring something else out. Exactly. And then you move on.
Starting point is 00:43:56 You move on. Exactly. Yeah. But no, Jill had to win this. Yeah. I think that's what it was. Yeah. So all of these weird emails are seemingly
Starting point is 00:44:06 from Fink accounts, but it doesn't end there. Kelly was telling the officers this. She was like, I took my dog to the park one day, and I had this super weird interaction with a woman who was really interested in dog sitting for me. This woman gave Kelly her card and insisted that if she need anything at all to give her a call. But the weird thing was this woman hadn't approached any other person in this dog park at all, and all of these people have dogs. So it's like, if you're looking for new customers, why are you only interested in me? Yeah. And Kelly said that the conversation felt like it was rehearsed beforehand. She was like, something about this was super weird. That's creepy. In the days following, Kelly would realize that this woman was following her.
Starting point is 00:44:50 What? And there had been another instance where she noticed an older man in a white car following her too. I don't know how she figured this out. She was able to figure out that the woman was a private investigator hired by the Easter's and she was hired to be friend Kelly and get any incriminating evidence on her that she could. And the man who was following her was another private investigator hired by the Easter's and he was hired to gather evidence to show that Kelly was having an affair with the tennis coach. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:45:24 She was not. I understand that my private investigators are necessary in certain circumstances. But it's stuff like this. Things like this. What do you do? That's terrifying. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 That's really scary. That's crazy. So Kelly's getting more and more scared. Her mistake had not called for this kind of a reaction. She'd apologized profusely. She did not think that this was going to be the end result of this. Yeah. She did not think that this was going to be the end result of this. And she started worrying that she was dealing with somebody unhinged here.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah, I'd be a little worried. She was terrified that things were going to escalate further. She was really scared about the safety of her daughter because it seemed like this woman was going to stop at nothing to destroy her. So she started worrying about letting her guard down, and she was worried about letting her guard down specifically when it came to Sydney. She said she, quote, felt in her heart that Jill was going to kidnap her daughter. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:46:14 She was terrorized. So she changed the locks on her apartment. She started carrying pepper spray and she avoided being alone any moment she could help it. But as we know, this was still far from over. My God. The police didn't arrest Kelly, although they very much could have.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Since they didn't find any kind of evidence of drugs or drug use at her home, or like I said, anything that matched to this weird parcel, and they now had the background on her relationship with Jill Easter. They were like, I think we need to investigate this a little further before it's going on here. Any kind of arrest is made.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Kelly was not ruled out as a suspect, but she also was not the only one that the police wanted to look into. There's actually another character, quote unquote, in this whole debacle, this is a character. There was a father who lived across the street from the school, who was known to have a history of quote,
Starting point is 00:47:09 strange and alarming behavior. This man was known to wander onto the school property without permission. He and I said he's a parent at the school, like a parent of a child at the school. Still. You can't do that. I just wanted to make sure I had something. Yeah. He would go on strange rants to the staff. He was heckling the crossing guard all the time. And he would videotape the kids crossing through the crosswalk. No. He also showed up as Batman to pick his son up on a day that wasn't Halloween.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And he was also known to be desperate for the PTA president position that Kelly held. So the police were like, yeah, he's a pretty good suspect. Huh. So they interview him, but he gave an alibi that checked out for the time that the phone call was made. But this man was arrested later for imitating a security guard on a high school campus while in possession of a gun. What the fuck? Yeah. This area like Irvine, California. Is everybody okay?
Starting point is 00:48:11 It's one of those areas where everybody moves because there's no crime and it's going, because you know when you got to the Batman thing, I was like, I didn't even be mad at that. No, maybe he told them you would show up as Batman. And that's fine. Sometimes you tell your kids something, you're like, oh well shit, I gotta do that.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And I wouldn't give a fuck about what other parents thought about me when I pick up my kids, but like you put together with everything else and you're like, like videotaping children in the cross-run. The videotaping the kids was the part when I was like, um, no. Yeah, exactly. And then the last part, children in the cross-run. The videotaping the kids was the part when I was like, um, no.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Exactly. And then the last part, well, in the last part, you're just like, what the actual fuck? Exactly. Exactly. Something is wrong here. It sounds like he was a mentally ill person.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yeah, there's something wrong. Judge Tevalee, but then he needed help clearly because he was that incident happened. That's dangerous. So, you know, let's hope that that man got a help he needed. Let's hope. But back to the help he needed. What's hope? But back to the original predicament.
Starting point is 00:49:07 And another attempt to get to the bottom of how these drugs ended up in Kelly's car. The police decided to investigate the phone call that they'd received from that concerned parent, VJ fake last name guy. There were a few problems with that caller. There was no parent or student on file with that last name. The caller had given a fake number as the call back number. Like if they were like had to call him back, he literally provided them with a fake number.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Listening back to the call, the investigators agreed that the man seemed nervous and had stuttered a few times. And for, he started off with an American accent, but after he was asked for his name, which was a name of Indian descent, he started using a fake Indian accent. Huh.
Starting point is 00:49:54 So the police said that it was like after he gave the name, he realized that it required an accent or something. It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't at all. But okay. How rude of you. What? So with all the bizarnas, they make the decision to trace the call.
Starting point is 00:50:09 The caller had said that he lived across the street from the school, and that's why his vantage points showed him so much. But when the call was traced, the location did not come up as being across the street from the school. The call had actually come from a very ritzy hotel in Newport Beach. What? And the caller had used one of the phones
Starting point is 00:50:27 in their business offices at this hotel. What? And because of that, the investigators kind of hit a jackpot. Yeah. There were security cameras pointing in the very direction of those offices. Oh, shit. So they were able to get the footage from the day
Starting point is 00:50:43 that the call was made, and wouldn't you know it? A man, that man, making that call, happened to look just like Jilly Stur's husband. Get the fuck out. Kent Easter. Are you kidding me? The footage was shown to multiple school,
Starting point is 00:50:58 like administrators and staff, and they were like, oh yeah, that's kind of like 100%. What? Yep. It also just so happened that his personal law office was feet, feet away from this hotel where the call was made. I, what? So later.
Starting point is 00:51:16 He's wrong with these people. Later in their investigation, the police would find that on the night the drugs were planted in Kelly's car, Jill and Kent had sent 15 texts back and forth between the hours of 2.37 a.m. and 4.21 a.m. Wow. And after a few more weeks of investigating and gathering more evidence to point toward these, there's involvement, the police were actually able to get permission to serve search warrants for Jill and Kent's home Kents' office. So the warrants were served on March 4, 2011 separately.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Kents was actually parking his car in the parking garage and getting ready to head into his office when he was served. The officer has asked him a couple questions and then he said that he wanted to get a lawyer before speaking any more to them. That's because he's married to a lawyer. He knows. Oh, yeah. And he is a lawyer. Oh, I forgot.
Starting point is 00:52:11 He is a lawyer. I forgot. So he's like, yeah, I know how this works. Yeah. So he had answered like a couple of questions because they started off simple. They wanted to know if he knew Kelly. He was like, oh, yep, me and Jill had a problem with her, but we'd squashed our beef. Like, we're all good now.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And the cops were like, yeah. So like, if that issue was really solved, like, do you know anything about the drugs that got planted in her car? Oh, and, um, why did your phone ping a tower near her apartment on the night that the drugs were placed in her car? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:52:39 And that's when he was like, yeah, I'm gonna, um, it's like about that. I'm gonna need a lawyer. Yeah. But obviously, they could still execute the search warrant. Uh-oh. They found and Kent Easter's car, a baggy filled with diet pills in his center console.
Starting point is 00:52:54 All right, cool. The baggy was the same brand that was used to separate the pills found in Kelly Peters car. Wow. Kelly Peters didn't have those baggies at her house. But Kent does. But Kent has them in his car. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yeah. So another set of officers was sent to kill, excuse me, Jill and Kent's house that they just made their couple. You made them a power couple. Whoa. To serve that weren't separately for the home. Before they pulled up into the driveway though, they sat outside kind of like getting ready.
Starting point is 00:53:24 And they noticed that they were being watched. A man was watching them and he was on his cell phone and he just looked like super sus to them. So as they took that in out of the corner of the ride, they see the Easter's front door, fly open. And Jill dressed in a negligee, pops her head out. Stop it. As soon as she sees the officer, she slams the door shut.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And it seemed to the officers that this man watching them had probably tipped Jill off. Oh my gosh. This guy gets back into his truck and he pulls away. And the officers are like, who the fuck is this guy? So they pull him over. They made some kind of excuse to pull him over. They found out that his name was Glenn.
Starting point is 00:54:04 I'm not gonna say his last name, just because like, whatever he why. His name is Glenn. He's a firefighter in the area. And he's been having an affair with Jill Easter for the past two and a half years. Oh. In fact, he was the very reason why Jill Easter
Starting point is 00:54:19 was late to pick up her son on the very day that he was left outside. Oh my God. Yup. to pick up her son on the very day that he was left outside. Oh my God. Yup. Also, I forgot that she was even late to pick up her son that day. Yeah, it's like, what did the... Oh, so do we all make mistakes? We all fuck.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah. This poor child. I know. I feel really bad. Like, he's just in the middle of all of this. I do too. I know. I hope he's all right.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And he's getting left outside. He got picked up late. Yeah. That's a rough day. It shit eat every day. Yes. That's the thing. People don't realize, I think, like their own big kid problems.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Fuck their kids up. Like there's kids involved here. Yeah, you got to think of them. So they asked this guy, they're like, okay, wow, you just like really spilled the beans. They're like, would you be wearing to wear a wire and talk to Jill about what was going on between her and Kelly Peters? And he was like, oh, I don't even really know anything about that.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And he was like, I don't know if I should wear a wire. Like, I don't know if that's the right thing to do. But after a couple of weeks, he decided why the hell not. He's like, you know what? Sounds fun. Let's go. Exactly. So I think they met at like a park or something where her try at like another one of her children. She's just like watching her kids with her side piece. With her paramour. Yes. So the conversation, but oh, paramour has a really good new song that just came out.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I forget what it's called, but Drew told me about it and then he played it for me. It's really good. I love Hailey Williams. Me too. She's so cool. Ginger energy. Well, the conversation between Jill and her paramour
Starting point is 00:55:42 was really not that useful to the police. He was just asking why the police had started asking him questions and Jill just got mad at him for questioning her and quote unquote abandoning her in her time of need. Okay. Yeah. Okay, Jill. She actually got so pissed at him during that interaction that she later went to his house and told his wife everything. Oh damn. She showed her the wife. I didn't know that he was married to. He's married to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Oh, shit. She showed his wife all of the texts that they had shared throughout the two and a half years they'd been together and photos they'd taken together. Oh, no. So although this wire thing didn't help the investigation much, it did let one woman get away from a douche canoe cheating butt face
Starting point is 00:56:27 I was gonna say there is some kind of silver lining there. There's always a silver lining But oh yeah, so they to find out too. I know I feel really bad for that woman two and a half years Yeah, I mean that's bad. That's really bad and when you get contacted by the five the other one Yeah, that's a no go. And I would also just be so, I'd be like, what, you're showing me pictures. Well, that's not going to see the, like I've seen enough.
Starting point is 00:56:53 That's the thing. It's like you have the betrayal and the awfulness of hearing about what your husband or spouse is doing. Right. But now you're hearing it from her or him or them or whoever it is, like that's like going through with this. And they're showing you evidence, like almost like they're enjoying showing you this.
Starting point is 00:57:11 It's like you know Jill, which like I've been fucking your husband. Oh yeah. Like that's 100% like that's so messed up. But I'm glad get out of there girl. Get out of there girl. So as the investigation went on, Kelly was officially cleared of any wrongdoing. And the police were able to get warrants for the Easter's DNA.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And that's actually why Kelly was cleared of any wrongdoing. Because they did find that Kent's DNA was found on the ceramic pipe, the vikin, and the percuset. So all three little whammy's there. Wow. And Jill's DNA was found on the pipe and the vikin' but for some reason not the percussette. So that combined with the proxicity, I was gonna say, that combined with the proximity of Kent's phone to Kelly's apartment that night and the fingerprints and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:57:59 It made the police pretty confident that they had a strong case here, but they still needed more if they wanted to bring this case in front of a jury and get both of the easter's convicted of a crime. And it was going to prove to be pretty difficult to do so because the easter's had the means to hire a really good defense attorney. The other thing working in their favor was just the simple fact that they were married, Because they had spousal privilege, it was going to be really difficult for the police to get information off their cell phones, which was something that the police really wanted
Starting point is 00:58:32 to do to help this case. Now, if you're like me and you just thought that spousal privilege just meant that the married couple couldn't testify against each other, have no fear. I did head over to lawcornell.edu. And according to them, quote, spousal privilege shields communications made in confidence during a valid marriage. The purpose of the privilege is to provide the assurance
Starting point is 00:58:55 that all private statements made between spouses will be free from public exposure. In order to invoke a spousal commitments privilege, the party must establish that that A, at the time of the communication, the spouses were in a valid marriage. B, the communications were intended to convey information between spouses, and neither spouse has been disclosed the communication to a third party. And C, the communications were intended to be confidential. Okay. So I didn't realize- I didn't know that. Your conversations and your communications
Starting point is 00:59:27 are even as long as you do not share them with anyone else. With a third part. They have to be secret secrets. Because secret secrets are no fun. Secret secrets hurt someone. Kelly. Yes. So. That was gonna be difficult because they really, really wanted the communications on their
Starting point is 00:59:58 cell phone, but it was basically impossible to go. Yes. If they were holding it tight. And the spousal privilege, man. So the police having done the best they could, which really was a bang-up job. Like they brought the case to the Orange County District Attorney Special Prosecution Unit. Wow. So many mouths, words, so many things.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So many things in that title. But one of the attorneys there, Christopher Duff, looked over the case and he was really impressed with everything that the police had done. They had put a lot of officers on this case. At one point, there were about 20 officers investigating a case. Yeah, this is so wild. They probably were like, pick me.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I was gonna say, I'd be like, I wanna do that. I was an officer, I'd be like, ha, I will be part of this. Please fill more tea. I just need to know how this ends. Exactly. So he also felt incredibly bad for Kelly. And he, which is something we haven't talked about,
Starting point is 01:00:49 he realized how differently this case could have gone if Jill and Kent were able to get her arrested. Yeah, absolutely. He said he also could have seen this case going very differently if Kelly Peters was not a white woman. Yep. Like, 100%.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Had they done this to a person of color, that person would absolutely be in jail right now. Presently, no bushings asked. Open and shut. Like, I don't even think their apartment would have been searched to prove that they weren't doing anything wrong. That would have been cut and dry, like, that was it.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And how nine times that is, that would be the case. How fucked is that? Like, not cool. So that pissed him off and he was like, you know, it's terrible that they chose to do this to anybody. But if they had chosen a different person, they could have absolutely destroyed somebody's life even more than they destroyed Kelly. Yeah, it's like a revocable way.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Like it would have been, and that's the thing. It's like this isn't just playing, this isn't like a game, man. No. Like this is such heavy shit that can destroy someone's life. Because there were people and I'll make that clear. And this is a mother later.
Starting point is 01:01:49 This is a mother with a child. She's a child. Yeah, which is the saddest thing about. That's what it's wild to me. It's a mother doing this to another mother. It's like, damn, you could have taken her away from her children forever. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:02:01 And even though Kelly Peters didn't go to jail, there were still people that thought she did this and thought she was guilty. It's reputation. It destroyed her reputation. And then you're sending private investigators after her, which is heightening her anxiety. Like she thinks she's so scared,
Starting point is 01:02:16 she thinks you're gonna kidnap her daughter. Which I can't imagine that. I would probably think the same thing if I was in this position because the length that Jill and her husband went to to destroy this woman's life, I mean, I would be terrified as well. I really think the same thing if I was in this position because the lengths that Jill and her husband went to to destroy this woman's life, I mean, I would be terrified as well. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So Chris Duffy was just as fucking passionate as we are right now. And he was like, you know what? I think it is, quote, crucial that Jill and Ken Easter are arrested and put through the same legal and criminal process that they wanted Kelly Peters, an innocent victim to go through. Yeah. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:02:49 So he decided to file the case. And once he did, Jill and Kent were promptly arrested. Damn. Kent was arrested outside of his Newport Beach Law office. Excuse me. Newport Beach Law office. And Jill was arrested at their home. They both were charged with conspiracy to procure a false arrest, false imprisonment, funny
Starting point is 01:03:09 how the tables have turned, and conspiracy to falsely report a crime. So their trial was set for October 2013, but the night, literally the night before it was supposed to start, Jill's attorney filed a declaration with the court stating that Jill had been the one to plant the drugs in Kelly's car, not Kent. Whoa. Now, all of the evidence pretty much proved that it was Kent.
Starting point is 01:03:33 His cell phone was pinging those towers, yeah, those hours, and he was texting Jill from that area. Yeah. So maybe Jill was finally ready to fess up to something, or maybe she knew that if she and Kent were tried separately, she could testify on his behalf because you can testify for your spouse.
Starting point is 01:03:53 You just can't testify against them. And maybe she could help prove his innocence. And then she knew that by pleading guilty herself, she would most likely receive a lighter sentence. Wow. So she thought she lowered it. She lowered it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Exactly. But the DA, Christopher Duffy, had absolutely no intention on going easy on Jill. He later said, it was symbolically important that she went to jail. She was a rich, orange County housewife who committed a serious crime, and people wanted to make sure she paid for what she'd done. Damn. So, when all was said and done with Jill's trial, she was sentenced to 120 days in jail. Okay, that's it. Okay. Kent was not going to go, not going to plead guilty or go down without a
Starting point is 01:04:38 fight. He hired a very impressive legal team when it came time for his trial. And he also, so he hired like a legal team and also hired some of the most highly respected defense attorneys in the country. Damn, like he went for it. So since Jill had confessed to doing the actual planting, it was really easy for Kent's team to make it look like he was kind of just a pawn in Jill's game.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And that she basically bullied him into helping her take down Kelly Peters. So, as attorney explained everything to the jury, and summing it all up by saying that Kent was a, quote, overly trusting husband trying to appease a difficult wife. Wow. I'm like, you're really just going to be like, he was just trying to shut her up. Yeah. So, he planted drugs in an unassuming woman's car.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Oh, okay. What a defense. up. Yeah. So he planted drugs in an unassuming woman's car. Oh, okay. They actually even used Jill's affair to their advantage, claiming that Kent actually knew about it. And that's how powerless he was. He just sat around and let it happen because he didn't want to lose Jill. Wow. Yeah. So during a later civil civil trial, Kent admitted that he was the one to make the 911 call implicating Kelly Peters and that the reason he'd done it was to save his marriage with Jill. He doubled down saying that he was scared of what Jill would do if he didn't help her. Wow. So his team really just tried to set him up to
Starting point is 01:05:58 look like a pathetic nink and poop. Yeah. They actually even tried to convince the jury that he and Jill switched phones that night. And that's why Kent's phone had pinged the towers near Kelly's house. It was really Jill with Kent's phone. Okay. Yep, totally. Yep. The jury was not buying it though, especially once the DA provided evidence showing that both the Easter's phones had been pinging for at least eight hours near Kelly's apartment, which meant that they quote, were both driver-ground Kelly's apartment the entire night before the drugs were found in her vehicle.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Oh my God. They all scary is that. Yeah, just thinking about that, you're like, my God, they just were like, drive it. And also like, where are your kids? That's what you're gonna say, your parents. Like, how do you have fucking time to do it? Like you hire a babysitter to go plant drugs
Starting point is 01:06:49 in some of these cars, like be phologias, are you okay? Also, where did you get that amount of vikin' and I'm fucking saying, like weed is like everywhere, but like where did you get that? My goodness. Now the thing was the jury also didn't really like Kent Easter as a human.
Starting point is 01:07:06 They said that he was detached and arrogant. But when it came time to deliberate, there was one juror who did not want to convict. She said that she felt like the crime didn't fit the punishment. But the judge was like, let me clear things up for you. Your role is not to determine sentence. Sentencing or anything like that. You're just to decide whether they're innocent or guilty.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Nothing more, nothing less. But in the end, the jury still couldn't figure it out. I think this one person wouldn't budge in a mistrial was declared. Wow. So a second trial began in 2014. And this time, the jury quickly decided that Kent Easter was guilty. Yeah, I was waiting for that. He was sentenced to 180 days in jail, 100 hours community service,
Starting point is 01:07:53 and a five-year suspension of his license to practice law. Damn. Yep. He was fired from his job, his reputation as a lawyer was absolutely destroyed. It was unlikely that he would ever get a job in law again. And he was only given one day to make arrangements before he was taken into custody. And when he got there, this is a trigger warning because this is the most fucked up, one of the most fucked up things in this case. When he got to jail,
Starting point is 01:08:22 Jill started in, like the conditions were really awful for him, like he really hated it, and he was talking to Jill about how terrible it was. She started convincing him to try to kill himself so that she could cash in on the life insurance policy that would have given her $500,000, and she felt like Kent should do this for his family. Are you kidding me? No. No. Holy shit. Yeah. Like that's a real thing. Wow.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Like that's who we're dealing with here. Wow. Thankfully Kent did not do as she asked and they were divorced very soon after. Yeah. But Kent still obviously wasn't happy about the income or excuse me. Kelly wasn't happy about the outcome. Or excuse me, Kelly wasn't happy about the outcome. Not the income. That was a real big mistake. Somebody wasn't. Kelly wasn't happy about the outcome. After all of this, she'd never received an apology.
Starting point is 01:09:13 And she had gone through years of stress, anxiety, panic, all of the above. And although few, there were still people, like I mentioned, who didn't believe that the drugs had been planted. They thought she really had done this. Wow. And even though Jill pleaded guilty,
Starting point is 01:09:28 she was going around town claiming that she actually had nothing to do with it and that she just had no choice but to plead guilty. So not only is Kelly suffering, her daughter actually suffered similar effects to her mother between anxiety and stress and everything like that, She was scared. And so was Kelly's husband Bill.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Throughout the entire ordeal, Bill had trouble sleeping and was suffering panic attacks. Oh my God. And the day after Ken Easter was found guilty, Bill was actually hospitalized. He had multiple organs failing, including his kidneys. Oh my God. Because he was so stressed out.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Luckily, he was able to be treated. Oh good. And he started therapy, but he actually had to go out on disability to deal with everything. Oh, that's awful. So with everything Kelly and her family had gone through, coupled with the fact that the Easter's never even gave a mode of us to why they wanted to destroy
Starting point is 01:10:19 this woman's life. Yes, seriously. Kelly felt like she was entitled to compensation. Yeah. And she felt like she was entitled to compensation. Yeah. And she felt like she was entitled for compensation for false imprisonment and inflection of emotional distress. So she sued the Easter's any civil suit. I don't blame her.
Starting point is 01:10:35 So Kent, excuse me, Kelly's attorney knew that it was gonna be difficult to win this case. Kelly most certainly had gone through a lot, but at the same time, she hadn't lost her job with the school. She was still the president of the PTA and she had not been physically injured. So it was gonna be hard to convince a jury
Starting point is 01:10:54 that anything had happened here. Of course. Also, because Ken Easter had no money and no job, he had no choice but to represent himself in this matter. This meant that he was going to be the one cross-examining Kelly, which was going to be incredibly stressful, and he's a skilled attorney. I was going to say that's literally his job. So, cancel Stick was to really emphasize that he had lost absolutely everything. Kelly remembered in her book that he was, quote, acting poor and penniless.
Starting point is 01:11:25 He would hang his head and give sad eyes to the jury like some starving waif. He didn't even wear a belt. He didn't even wear a belt. He didn't even wear a belt. What the fuck? I think he also wore like the same purple sweater in the courtroom a lot.
Starting point is 01:11:38 It was a choice. But he, in his defense of himself, made it seem like Kelly was overreacting here. He said he and Jill had already faced their punishments. He actually even called Jill to testify for him. They were divorced at this point, but she still did so. She made a mother-fucking spectacle of herself. She insisted that the court address her by all of her names, which included Jill Easter
Starting point is 01:12:04 as we know, but also Ava Bjork, which was a pen name that she used to self-publish a mystery novel about getting away with the perfect crime. I gotta go. Yep, I really gotta go. She also had Ava Easter that she went by and Ava ever heart.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And she made them address her by all of these. All of those names, which was confusing to the jury. They were like, yeah, where are we? Yeah. She also came in tow with an American sign language And she made them address her by all of these. All of those names, which was confusing to the jury. They were like, yeah, where are we? Yeah. She also came in tow with an American sign language interpreter, claiming that she was now deaf. No explanation, just like from the stress of it all, she'd gone deaf.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Okay. How insulting to people who actually are deaf or hard of hearing? Like how fucking dare you? Wow. So she announced to the entire courtroom also that she had gone to a better law school than any person in this room, and also that she'd grown up on a Native American reservation in Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Okay, didn't have literally anything to do with the questioning, and it didn't make her appear sympathetic to the jury if anything, she just came off like her husband did, as Eric Denton Rude. Yeah, so that's just very confusing. And just like, what the hell is going on? Just what is happening right now.
Starting point is 01:13:05 So this jury deliberated for less than an hour, and when they returned with their verdict, it was announced to the courtroom that the Easter's were certainly liable for false imprisonment and inflection of emotional distress. Good. I think Kent calling Jill to testify. Yeah, to testify him was the straw that broke the camel's back. Selling that for sure. Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:26 So this meant that Kelly and her family were going to be awarded $5.7 million. And don't you worry, I got the breakdown right here for you. 365,000 endamages to Kelly for false imprisonment. 800,000 endamages to Kelly for emotional distress. 365 endamages to bill for false imprisonment of his wife. 600,000 to Sydney for emotional distress. $1.5 million in damages to Kelly Peters from Kent Easter
Starting point is 01:13:57 for malice, oppression, and fraud. And 2.1 million in joint punitive damages to Kelly from Kent, and Jill.1 million in joint punitive damages to Kelly from Kent and Jill. Wow. Unfortunately, very shortly after this, Kent filed for bankruptcy. Yeah. So it's unlikely that Kelly's ever going to see any of the money that she's owed, but it really wasn't the point for her.
Starting point is 01:14:18 She really just wanted to prove according to her lawyer that quote, these people thought they were above the law and the jury acted accordingly. Yeah. Now, the easters seem to still be trying to outsmart the legal system. They moved their assets around and gifted their home to Jill's father who then sold the home and put the money in some kind of trust for Jill and Kent, which is like incredibly illegal.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Wow. They didn't really do themselves any favors trying to be smart because now Kelly's lawyers are actually going after Jill's father for damages and it's gonna be pretty easy for them to prove that he participated in a fraudulent asset. Oh, it's for no. So that sucks.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Yeah. Because it's like he might have not have understood that I wouldn't have. Yeah, just like stop involving other people in your skin. And your shit. Right. Jill and Kent are still divorced
Starting point is 01:15:04 and they do share custody of their children. Neither of them has ever really expressed any kind of a morse. And they still say that Kelly blew everything out of proportion and overreacted. You planted drugs in her car. Pot, meat, kettle. Like you Kelly overreacted?
Starting point is 01:15:21 You literally planted drugs in her car. Like I think you overreacted. Kent literally planted drugs in her car. Like, I think you overreacted. Yeah. Kent tries now to help people out with law matters for like, you know, like a job. And he freelance writes, but he says that both his professional and romantic lives have been ruined. I think they call that like a consequence where I'm from. Yeah. And their romantic life being ruined is because you can Google him now. Yeah. And I guess he had gone on a date and the woman or was going to and before they even got to the date,
Starting point is 01:15:50 the woman was like, no, I'm not going out with you. She was like, you literally planted dry woman's car. And the PTA president's car. Thank you. Kelly spent a very long time in therapy. She, Bill and Sydney had to work together to rebuild their lives and their sense of trust.
Starting point is 01:16:05 And in 2016, Kelly wrote that book that I mentioned in the beginning. It's co-authored by Riley J. Ford. Kelly also appeared on an episode of Dr. Phil, as well as 2020 inside edition and good morning America. And I'm pretty sure that Jill was also on the Dr. Phil episode. Yeah, I think so. She, Kelly, wanted to promote the book that she wrote and share her cautionary tale. She says that though that she hopes people are interested
Starting point is 01:16:31 in the story not because of just how crazy it is, but because of her and the investigators' perseverance. Yeah. Which I don't blame her. They put a lot of work into this. Yeah. She said she still, again, hasn't gotten an answer as to why they wanted to destroy her life. But her therapist shared the following
Starting point is 01:16:48 from her book or for Kelly's book, and tried to shed light on the situation from like a mental health standpoint. Okay. She said, quote, I have not personally evaluated Jill Easter, so I don't have any opinion on her diagnosis. But there has been mention of the psychopathic personality
Starting point is 01:17:03 in regard to this case. We are all exposed to the reckless behavior of those who may be psychopaths. They are out there in our everyday life. Kelly was trusting, loving, positive, and she disbelieved in the level of evilness of someone who she came to interact with her for just a few minutes. Whose evil behavior changed Kelly's life forever. Wow. So whether or not you believe that Jill was mentally ill, ultimately she was used to getting what she wanted
Starting point is 01:17:32 when she wanted it, and she didn't get that from Kelly Peters. Kelly Peters seemed to be one of the first people that Jill encountered that just didn't give into her antics. So I guess for Jill and Kent, Kelly's resilience and refusal to give in for them was enough to ruin her life. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:48 And that is the story of framed Kelly Peters, the PTA president. I'm shook at a loss for words with that. In sane. And there's even more detail, by the way, in those LA Times articles written by Christopher Gopher to gofer to Gofer to I'm sorry. Definitely if you want to hear more, go read those because he includes like even more detail like between like when Kent was first served the papers, he actually has the interactions between the officers and Kent that are really interesting to read. There's a lot more tidbits in there that I didn't use. I just don't understand this.
Starting point is 01:18:27 No, I don't understand that. I just don't understand that. I think I'm really, I'm like, just trying to, like, what the fuck? What the fuck is right? What the fuck? Like, what's wrong with you? Right. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:18:41 This is like such a different case than I think you were I have ever presented. Yeah. But when I was reading it, I was like, no, the weirdo's literally gotta hear this. Yeah, they gotta hear this because it's just so wild. That is the most reckless thing I've ever heard. Reckless. And it's like just like, there's not even a word.
Starting point is 01:18:55 If you really thought someone hurt your child, then you go to lengths to make sure that person is like, you know, investigated. Absolutely. And through the law. Faces a consequence. Right. Through the law. to lengths to make sure that person is investigated and through the law. And it's a consequence, through the law. But like, investigations happened multiple. And it sounds like nobody was really claiming that anything happened here.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Right, like besides somebody who wasn't there. Right. And it's like, what? Yeah, what? Like I've said, we both said it a million times. I understand being mad. Yeah. I do not understand the level that this reached with that being the inciting incident. I just never understand devoting your life to taking someone else down. I will never understand that kind of behavior. I really won't. And this is just a perfect example of it that it's like,
Starting point is 01:19:47 you devoted your all of your time. It literally is like an episode of Housewives. Yeah. Kelly's lawyer says that at one point, like Jill was like an OC housewife and so. Yeah. It really is like an episode of a TV show. Like, it's just really weird to me.
Starting point is 01:20:04 I'm like, why do you have that much time? You shouldn't have that much time. Why are you spending this much time doing that? I have no idea. And it can't be good for your insides either. And the thing is, it's like, they both had time because they were stay at home mom. So like you do, you get time, like when your kids
Starting point is 01:20:19 go to school to like get stuff done, but like Kelly dedicated her time to being at school with her child and like helping the lives of the other kids. Exactly. And Jill dedicated her time to doing this. To doing this all the time. That's why you wanted to be a stay-at-home mom. And it's like, were you feeling good inside?
Starting point is 01:20:36 Like that had to have fucked your insides up too. But I think she, like, I mean, she was all the time. So tough. So tough for two and a half years. Yeah, this is like, in their home. Ooh, it's the whole thing. Damn. It's such toxic shit.
Starting point is 01:20:48 And it's also a cautionary tale. Just lock your doors, don't trust people. Freak it and don't talk to anybody. Yeah, and make sure my dad always told me to like, if somebody's strange or somebody's weird or somebody's just like off to you, like giving you bad vibes, he was like right, right it down, right everything down. He always says, always.
Starting point is 01:21:13 He says, set that. Vlog that shit. Because later, if you need to show it, you can go, well, on this day, this is what happened. He was like, it diaries a diary, do it. It's true. And diaries have been used in court cases for many, many years. And in this case, I don't know, you know, who knows if it would have helped at all,
Starting point is 01:21:29 but it's just one of those things like, well, maybe I should always log things if you can. It just helps. And it helped Kelly that she had talked to people at the school who were willing to vouch for her and say like, this incident was not at all what it was made to be. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:21:43 So damn wild. I had to tell you guys this was my own way. it was made to be. Yeah, exactly. So damn wild. I had to tell you guys this was my story. What did I throw in it? I was like, what the fuck? What a story. So with all of those words being said, we do hope that you keep listening and we hope you keep it.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Wee! But that's where you convince your husband to plant drugs in somebody's car and you take down their life because wow, that would be like such an over reaction to anything. Literally. Literally anything. Don't do that. Bye.
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