Morbid - Episode 427: The Brutal Hoia Baciu Forest

Episode Date: February 6, 2023

Today we travel to Romania where everything is terrifying and awesome. Come on, it's the birthplace of Dracula (Vlad the Impaler) and it's got one of the scariest forests on this planet. The Hoia Baciu forest is a place where the trees bend like a rule, there is a dead zone in the center that might be a portal to hell, it may have been the location of one of the earliest doomed Romanian settlements and a truly macabre slaughter may have taken place there. Need more? Trust us, there is an endless slew of mystery and terror lurking in this place. The locals won't go in there after night falls, will you?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And I'm Alaina. And I'm Mikey. And this is more Bid. And we have a special guest today but don't you dare turn off the fucking episode. You can if you want, but don't do it. You might have heard of us talking about this guy named Mikey on the re-watcher if you listen into the Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which you should be. Which you should be. Plug plug.

Plug-A-, plug, plug. Our friend Mikey helps us with that and now he's gonna be helping us with so much more. So he'd be in the studio and we said, do you wanna be on this episode? And he said, of course. He said, duh, duh, duh. Cause we're gonna be talking about spooky, scary,

terrifying, Romanian forest. Ah! Exactly. But before we talk about that, we have some exciting news to share, everybody. We are going to be available on the YouTube, but not like us. No, never that. Just you can listen to the podcast on the YouTube. On the YouTube. Yeah, you can find more the podcast on the YouTube. On the YouTube, yeah, you can find more of it on YouTube.

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So take my shit. So don't go to those ones, go to this one. Yeah, so there's that. And that's fun. We went to Disney, guys. Yeah, we took the kids to Disney worlds. I fucking loved it. Ash is a full-blown Disney adult now.

I got the Daisy duck sweatshirt and the Mickey socks. Oh, and the Marie socks to prove it. We're not kidding. Like this is real. Oh, I should, you know, oh, I also got a sweatshirt that says it feels good to be home with the Magic Kingdom castle. Right across my hits. Yeah.

And I fucking hate Disney worlds. Does that really come as a surprise to anybody in this room? No. No. No. Here's the thing though. I went in and you know, I went in with it with an open heart, a clear mind. I was ready.

Yeah. Because I wanted like, the only thing I liked about it was how much the kids loved it. That was, that's where I found my joy. Mom, but literally every other part of it, I fucking hate. Have you guys ever seen the Grinch? Hate, hate, hate, low than tally. That was me, the entire time.

Her heart did not grow three sizes bigger. No, we did, like, like, might have shrunk. We did the Bipity Bipity boutique for the gals for their birthday. That was the, likeini Bipini boutique for the gals for their birthday That was the like that was the time when I was like all right magic Like that was when I felt great about it. That's when I felt the Disney vibes Who I don't like it guys. I don't get it you also don't like rides But I've and I know that's like a big part of it, but I don't get the vibe of it.

I don't like it. Like walking into that place. I was like, I was like, I don't feel like this is the happiest place on earth. I feel like this is the most stressful place on earth. But actually though, you went into it so stressed out already because going into it, everybody had already barfed. Yeah, which I'm gonna get into in a second.

But, and I know you want me to like, I can tell that you're trying to find the shred of hope here. I don't like it. I'm ready to like purchase a time share. Looking at a picture of the Disney castle now, would give me, and a chills. I would get chills, and not in like a, ooh, I got chills, I love it so much.

A chills, like I am in a haunted forest. Chills. So I shouldn't give to you the picture of your family and from the castle in a frightened. Oh, that's the thing. The kids fucking loved it. They loved it. The castle was magical to them. That's all that matters to me. Yeah. This isn't about me. Disney is not about me and it never was and it never was supposed to be. But like just isn't about me. Disney is not about me. And I never was. And I never was supposed to be. But like just my feelings on the whole thing are like holy shit. I don't like it. I came home with like five new pairs of ears. Yes. You did. I was living my Disney fantasy.

I felt, you know, who I felt like our girl Holly. You felt like Holly Madison. And I said, I was like, you, you are Holly Madison right now. I love that because I love Holly. Let's see it. Madison, and I just said, I was like, you are Holly Madison right now. And I love that, because I love Holly. Let's see, and I love that you love Disney. Yeah, I'm into it. Yeah, I got into it, you did. You really did. Do you like Disney? I used to live down in Florida for a period of time,

so I loved it when I lived there, but I'm kind of more of a universal studios guy, to be honest. Universal's still top of my list. Disney doesn't top of our social network. Harley and Horonite, Alaina. That I wanna experience. I love it.

You would love it, love it, love it. It is incredible. Even without, like, I think we should definitely take you for a Halloween Horror Night, but even without the Halloween vibe, I think you would be more of a universal girl. You know what the issue is here? I don't like theme parks.

I think that's really where it all stems from. Like, you know this the issue is here? I don't like theme parks. I think that's really where it all stems from. Like you know this about me. I'm just not a I just want you to theme park girl. I'm a theme park girl Lee. I get that's why Haunted House season is like my season because that's my time to go to like my theme park. I got that. But actual theme parks, I don't like, I don't get it. I feel like they smell weird. There's too many people. Everybody's usually sweaty.

People are bumping into you. They're rude and it's like, ugh. Yeah. The colors are all just like, well, now I hate it all. Now you have to get into what made it like exponentially worse. So I already was like, yeah, I'm not into this. But at that moment, I was like, this is for the girls though. So like, let's go for it.

Yeah. But then, not only did John get sick for the whole week, but all three of my gals got stomach bugs and all of them vomited throughout a whole night altogether. There was one that did it in the beginning of the week and the other two did it in the same night. And there was towards the end. One that did it in the beginning of the week, one that did it during the day while sitting next to me on a Disney transportation bus. It was really damn bus. Almost ruined my time. But I didn't let it. I said, wow, that's chocolate milk. We're moving on now. We thought that was it.

We were like, oh, you know what? Maybe she just jiggled her tummy. She just had chocolate. Fine. But no, that was the beginning of a stomach bug and we didn't know because that night, that little one and the other one got sick all night. And John and I were just awake, catching puke, cleaning off kids. And thank God, thank all the goddesses, thank the earth and the universe. So we had a washer and dryer in our room because we were just doing laundry after laundry, just trying to keep the sheets clean and just redoing it. It was hell. I had no idea. I was just peacefully in my room with my guest affair watching Real Housewives of Potomac, which that's all I'm living. I had no idea. I was just peacefully in my room with my guest to fair watching Real Housewives of Potomac.

Which that's all I'm living. I'm glad that other people had a great time and that's really all that matters because this was an auditrip for me. So it's like, no, we're gonna go to like, Sweden and Seagost for you. Oh, fuck yeah, we are. Do you want me to try to figure it out?

We're gonna go to Sweden and Seagost. That's what travel advisor. It's gonna be a sweet drive there. Is there a way to drive there? Oh, yeah, I'm gonna fly. Yeah, yeah. I'll get hypnotized. Yeah, yeah to fly Definitely. Yeah, because we drove we we did drive to Disney. Yeah, so that we drew in Elena. Yeah, so that was in 22 hours on the way there only 18 on the way home. Yeah, not because we were speeding, just because ways found a better route. But still, it was a lot. It was a lot, it was a long, long week. I was living, I was like Paris Hilton X,

Holly Madison, vibing my way through Disney. You were. You were. That's also when I call it now, is Disney. Disney. Disney. I think it's better. She almost asked one of the kids, did you tell your friends about Disney today? I literally was like, how was school? Did you tell your friends about Disney? They're like, yeah. Obviously, I probably

should have just said I'd pick at me. And again, even with the stomach bugs, and that happened in the middle there and everything, they had a blast. They were by the end of it, they were done. Because that's when things really hit. You went to the fireworks show. I did, that was pretty cool. I teared up during the fireworks show. I literally almost moved to Tias.

Gorgeous. When Tinkerbell flew across the screen to me, or the sky to me, I just said to myself, because my therapist told me to do this. She was like, no, I'm not even kidding you. She told me, like throughout little moments in your life, like check in with little ash, because she's still in there, you know,

in their swimmer. In their swimmer. And their swimmer going to the pool shit. I was like, Lida, in my head, I was like, little ash, we are a fucking Disney right now. And Tinkerbell just flew across to you and like, I'm an aw, and I literally just, I started tearing up. I love that.

It was beautiful. And you know what? That really was a moment as soon as Tinkerbell came up. I love that. It's beautiful. And you know what? That really was a moment as soon as Tinkerbell came down. I looked at the girl, because I was just watching the girls for most of that. Yeah. Because I just wanted to watch their faces. And as soon as Tinkerbell came down,

they were both like, what the, like their faces were like, it is so magical. I remember when we brought my niece and my nephew when they were, when they're babies. Like just a look of absolute like delight. When they saw stuff and plus you could get like little hats with their names on the back of it. Yeah.

So that way, you know, everybody would know like, Oh, how are you doing Alexis? Yeah. And it was just like this thing like holy crap. Right. Did you see that Cinderella knew me? She knew me. She knew me, guys. She knew me. And they call you princess too.

It's a fucking piece. Oh, and I loved that. Every time we got on the bus, the bus driver would be like, hi princess, hi princess to the kids. Yeah, not to the kidney. That would have weirded me out of that. That would have been a lot. I would have been like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Yeah, it was not my favorite trip. It was my favorite trip for the gals. Yeah. And me. And for you, you're included in the gals. All four of my gals, I was very... I'm a Linus Oldest. Excited to see.

We have a family picture of it. Yeah, together and me and Truera, off to this side. I'm like, we just, it looks like you started really early and then took a walk. Yeah, Paul. And it was like, this is my oldest that I had when I was 10. But yeah, so I know that like everybody who loves Disney like don't yell at me. I don't like it.

It's just the way it is. Wait, wait, wait for that. Yeah, it's just the way it is. I'm so glad that anybody loves Disney. You can continue to me not liking it does not stop you from liking it. Yeah. But like, I don't like it. You did like you genuinely, the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. That was cool. Okay, thank you. It was cool.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained, you know? So you're like, you know, you know? If you don't know, now I know. That's true. Now I know I wanna go to Scotland and see Haunted Shit. Another trip all plan. Exactly. You better learn how to like flying.

Please take a seat. Is there any hint of idea? Is this listening? Are there any hypnosis listening? What's the correct English on that? I just need, I do need to be hypnotized to get out of plane again. So there's that. So listen to the eye. But you know, we'll do that. We'll do that. We'll get it done. Yeah. We'll get out of plane. I think Kyle Richards did that. Didn't I tell you that? Yeah, you did. Yeah. So there we go. Yeah. We'll figure it out. Okay. Okay. And you know what? Maybe we'll travel to Romania. The Sagu. The Sagu. Maybe we'll travel to Romania. You know what the butcher and the ren is translated in Romanian. I want to hear that. It's over

there. I bet it's I bet it's scary. Can you imagine the audiobook? I as hell. You can come to Romania with us. Let's go to Romania. Hop in the car, bitches. We're going to Romania. Because you know where we're going? A haunted forest. We're going to the Bermuda Triangle of Transylvania. I was like, but the Bermuda Triangle is in Bermuda. You have that correct. You have pressed a correct key. You're absolutely accurate when you say that.

So this is the Bermudariangle of Transylvania. That makes me want to watch hotel Transylvania. I was just going to say that makes me want to watch Dracula. That's who we are. It is. There we are. There we are. This is, this forest is called Hoyabachu.

And I know I said that right because I checked up the pronunciation everywhere. And we had a Romanian listener who sent us a pronunciation like a tree. A tree. So thank you to you. And it's said to be named after a shepherd who disappeared in this forest along with his 200 sheep, chepr rose. Sheep rose from Southern China. He was never seen again. Hemen is 200 sheep. Please picture that, everyone. He that watches, bro.

She's Sheep rose venturing into the whole. Just see that. Gosh. Gosh. Please listen to watch what crapens, if you are not yet. They're all wondering how to. They are. So listen to watch what crapens.

They're wonderful. We love Ron. Ron, he had been to. They are. So listen to watch what happens. They're wonderful. We love Ron. Ron, he and Ben. I sorry. I had to take a breath. We love Ron. He said, oh, that's the other thing. I sound sultry because I also got sick during this week.

So big ones. You sound like Lilo back to sounding like Lilo. Because you know, every time I get a cold, I lose my voice now. It's just part of starts a 1,800 business. And I think it's cold in flu season. So the kids are just always either sick or getting us sick. That's just the way it is. I'm taking an extra airborne gummy every single day. Yeah, there you go. And it's working. It is. So not going to work. I'm not going to work. I'm not going to work. I'm not going to work.

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But explore it. Romanian listeners. Faye. What are your thoughts on Faye? Like, I need to know now. Faye, Russnik. Faye, Russnik. There you go.

Now, I like the shepherd thing. I don't know if it's actually named after the shepherd. It's in a lot of sources, but like these are a lot of legends. I love a good ledge. Either way, if a shepherd went in there with 200 sheep and was never seen again, that's something to talk about. The sheep were also never seen again?

Yeah, 200 sheep. How do 200 sheep just disappear for abskees? I'm saying. I'm scared. I'm scared. So it's located outside clue, I'm gonna butcher this and I'm very sorry. Cluj napoca.

I thought that was spot on which is on the northern border of Romania. Okay. And it covers 250, I was going to say 50, 250 hectares, which is basically 617.763 acres. How many? 617.763. So essentially 618. But if I'm being very specific, I don't even have Anne Aker. 618 is how much this covers. Yeah. And it's known as one of the most haunted places on the planet. And I think it is. This is a strange ass forest. Regardless of whether it's actually haunted or not, it's weird. There's a lot of weird shit physically happening in this forest. So it kind of started being talked about more in the 1960s when a biologist named Alexander

Sift entered the forest for research purposes. He had heard like locals talking. He had heard a lot of stories coming out of here, and he was trying to discover the origin of what we're going to talk about in a little bit, the trees in this forest, which are very strangely shaped and they have a very strange growth pattern. So he went in there kind of looking to see why this was possibly happening. To see about the trees. To see about some trees, you know? He went in there on some tree business. Exactly.

So this is the beginning of Arbor Day, as we know it, right here. He went in there on Hargatory, to Hargatory, several thousands. There you go. And he was said to have seen eight trees coming from a single root, like growing out of a single root.

Yeah. That's on some GMO type shit. That's so creepy. That tree is not organic. He also said that as he entered further into the forest, he heard quote unquote teeth chattering. Yes, that. I hope that showed up.

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And he was feeling more and more anxious and sick as he traveled further in. But he was like, I have to know what's happening here. So he had also heard about a clearing in the center. We're nothing grew. Always, always a clearing where nothing grows. And don't you worry, we're gonna talk about that clearing. Of course we are. But he was heading towards it.

And as he's heading towards it, he saw a flying object in the sky above the forest. So that's what I was gonna say, because he started feeling sick. I'm like, is this on some alien type shit? Because the radiation will make you feel like shit. That is true, sorry, I took a sip of water while you were talking.

How dare you? Because I was about to cough, but I didn't want to cough in your ear, okay? Okay. So he saw a flying object in the sky. It was silver, saucer, it was a saucer. It just flew. Was it a bomb, was it unidentified?

It was unidentified. To this day, it is unidentified. Yeah, but he looked up. He was like, holy shit, that's a silver disc floating in the sky, but that's an UFO. And then he actually took pictures of these things. Uh-oh. And some of them survived, some of these pictures.

But a lot of them weren't missing, strangely. From the government. From the government, from the government, and get rid of it. Now, he passed away in 1993 after spending a ton of weeks investigating the forest, and he was said to have burns all over his body and a high fever. Burns. And those are things that people experience in the forest.

They will come out with burns. That's radiation. And they will come out with like high fivers, which we're gonna talk about the physical symptoms people feel. Interestingly, his friend, a chemist named Adrian Petrute, spent a ton of time investigating the forest like after he had passed away. He had done it, yeah. He had done it while he was alive with him,

and he decided to keep going with it. And he wanted to really look into the phenomenon that was surrounding this place. So he published a book in 1995 called Phenomenali, Deila Pardruski, Hoyobachu. Perfect. You know? Oh, look at me. Wow. Where he posits a lot of the theories about the paranormal experiences, a lot of theories

excuse me, about the paranormal experiences, a lot of theories, excuse me, about the paranormal experiences in the UFOs there. He kind of comes up with a lot of, he leans towards which I appreciate the science part of it, and less about the paranormal, but he doesn't say that paranormal things, supernatural things aren't happening here. He just wants to only prove the science stuff.

Now, he said, he was said to have told researchers, quote, we have enough results to tell you what it is not. It is not something we can possibly hope to understand in this age. Damn it. That's so creepy. Exactly. Now, some of the things that people experience

when they go through here, are they'll feel anxious and restless and agitated as soon as they get in there. Like a panic attack. That's how I felt that Disney the entire time. That's how I feel outside of Disney. I'm like, are you sure you're not just in Disney World? Look around. Do you think you know?

Yeah. Is there somebody like, you know, yelling at you to get in a certain line or get away from the beast because he's going to come do a flourish in the center of BR BR. Okay, not Lady was wild. Yeah. Can I quickly just throw that? Absolutely. The Lady was too much. This is our first episode back, so we're just, you know, what we're here. Lucy Goosey. Lucy Goosey. We were at BR guest for the girl's birthday. You know, the bell castle. It's like, hold on, the bell castle where bell isn't nowhere to be found. Why the fuck is bell not at that castle? We went there because I thought bell was at that. That I'm pissed about. And the girls were like, she lives here and I was like, yeah, you're going. I don't know why she's not here.

Also, my girl, I'm going to, like, my girls are smart. Yeah. And they, they, they see through the shit. So the, they have the beast come waltzing out every hour, and he just walks around and flourishes. He like waves. And waves, and then just leaves, but he has a handler. And this handler is a Disney employee who thinks she's escorting the mother fucking president. If you're listening right now, are you okay, Madam?

I see. Because- I put her hands on a little boy. Oh, she put her hands on a child to move him out of the way. If that was my child, my hands would have been thrown. And we were coming back from the bathroom to come to our seats. And it, excuse me, the beast was flourishing his way

into the center of the fucking room. So we're just walking on the edge, trying to like get to our table. She put her hand up in front of my face and was like, you need to stop. And I just looked at her and literally left and just kept walking, because I was like, fuck you. She would not.

Because she would not. Because that's the thing, if she had said, been like, oh, excuse me, you have to just stop for a second because he's like, oh, they're like, absolutely. But she literally put her hand almost touching my face and then put her other hand out to stop my girls. And I saw this happen. And was like nasty about it. And I was like, no And I saw this happen. And was like nasty about it.

And I was like, no, and I just kept, well, I was like, I'm sorry, he'll be fine. I think he'll be okay. She was not kind. She was not a day. She was not leading with kindness. She was not leading with kindness at all. You're not supposed to point at Disney.

I wonder what the thing is about putting your hand in people's faces. That's not cool man. I feel like that's frowned upon. I'm literally shocked. I'm not honest. I was like upset about that, but then I saw her literally put her hands on a child and hold him back.

And he was like a little boy just trying to run back to his table with his family. And he also wasn't in the way. No. The beast was like 10 feet away at that point. And also it's like calm the fuck down. Right, like it would take a lot to trip that man. And I'm gonna be honest with you,

the girls were watching the beast float around and one of them turned around and said to me, why is he a beast? He turned into a prince at the end of the movie. And I was like, you're fucking right. Yeah, they got that wrong. Like I was like, and I literally told, I was like, you're right.

And then I was like, he turns into a beast when he wants to now. Cause that's the only answer I could think of in the moment. Like the reveals on RuPaul's Drag Race. Why can't we do that? Like a wig reveal, like when they're wearing like a wig underneath. Yes, the prints underneath the beast. Because it's like, I should work at Disney.

Like how are we, and I think those are the things about Disney. And I think I'm too, by the detail oriented. And I'm too by the detail oriented and I'm too logical for this like I love magic. I'm too logical for Disney. No, no, I'm like I love magic and I love like fantasy like I'm into that shit. I'll be really large. I love what like she farped. I've barped okay so I like I'm into it.

But like it's those little details that I'm like you you got it wrong. And you need to get it right. Because Kaley wrong. Like my kids are gonna pick up on that shit. And then I'm gonna have to explain for your misdoings. Yeah, okay. There needs to, or even just like the beast comes out and then they're like, oh, like we have to do it.

Even if it's not the same like person like a wig reveal, like just a few minutes later, just send out Prince Adam. Exactly, and be like, I know have Belle out of Epcot. I don't know why she's an Epcot. Bring her to Magic Kingdom and have her be at the castle especially for all the money you pay for be our guest. Exactly. That dinner, food, fucking incredible. 10 out of 10. Also 10 out of 10 recommend Belle being there. Yeah. It's just I, because I, in my head, was like, he's not a beast anymore. Why do we have him being a beast?

And then when one of my girls said it, I was like, I mean, yeah. I don't know what this says about me, but like, I prefer the beast. I mean, yeah. I don't know what it says either. It's like from childhood. You know what though, you're not alone. A lot of people feel that way. The beast is just like handsome man's. childhood. You know what though, you're not alone. A lot of people feel that way. The beast is just like handsome man's.

Yeah, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like for it. Yeah. I liked Adam too though. Like when the beast transforms, you're like even like six year old me was like, dang. No. See, the cartoon one, I was like, you.

No. Really? The real live action one. I was like, I prefer that one. You don't love a fellow ginger. Well, it had nothing to do with his hair. I just wasn't into it. But you know, I'm a Prince Navine girlie myself. Prince Philip. Prince Philip. I'm a niche. A niche. A niche prince. You know, who's your favorite prince?

Dave. You know it. I loved Aladdin. He was actually my first crush. He was my awakening. That's how I found out that I was, well, I knew before then, of course, but. Yeah, but that was like, that was the first, first love. Aladdin is a good one. He is so cute. Oh my god.

You know, I was going to ask that. This is just brought to you by my friend loved life. You seem alive, actually. You know I was gonna ask that. This is just brought to you by Disney, by the way. Everyone's like, what about the forest? And anyways, my first love was Luke Skywalker, back to the forest. Thank you for tuning in. I mean, if we're going for a first love completely, not at Disney, then it was David Bowie and Labyrinth.

Oh yeah, yeah. And Luke Skywalker isn that Disney or right? But I'm not a Star Wars girl anymore, so I avoided that like the plague. Yeah, but you know what, either way, be our guest, you should think about having Prince Adam instead of the Beast because some kids are gonna pick up on that.

But the food? 10 out of 10, fucking good. Yeah, and the handler for the Beast, maybe just like don't touch people and don't put your hand in people's faces. Maybe, maybe like work at TSA. Yeah, and the handler for the beast, maybe just don't touch people and don't put your hand in people's faces. Maybe, maybe work at TSA. Yeah, exactly. That's what people are.

But either way, we're talking about how, you know, I felt anxious, restless, and agitated at Disney, people feel that in this forest. Yeah, yeah. So they also feel like they're being watched or followed. Did you feel like that at Disney too? I felt that way very much, especially up your gas. Then people lose track of time. Also me, they get, like I said, they got the burns.

I actually do have burns. I did get hives from anxiety, but that's it. But people get burns. They'll come out with actual skin burns. Like that. Yeah. And it's one of those things where people will be like, well, did you brush up against like a plant that you're allergic to or something, but they can't figure it out. It's like an actual burn on their skin. People get headaches and migraines in there, like immediately. From the radiation. People get nausea. They get scratches on them. They get like really bad rashes. They get high fevers. People are shoved to the ground in cameras if they have them will be thrown on the ground like

Really wild shit like really wild shit that you can't and everybody will say I didn't go in there feeling sick I came out of there feeling like shit, like weird. Yeah. That's so bizarre. So that Adrian Petrute, who took over the research for Alexander Sift, he actually believes that some of these ailments that people are dealing with may actually be super low frequency sound waves. That human ears can't really detect or hear. Infrasound. This might sound familiar. This causes electromagnetic hypersensitivity, which is similar to what happened, possibly at diet love pass. The infrasound. They thought that might have been part of what had happened, was that kind

of those frequencies were happening. They couldn't hear them, like with the human ear, but it started causing them to lose it. Like, because what will happen is it causes very unsettling symptoms. It'll cause headaches, extreme anxiety, nosebleeds, nausea, fever symptoms, hallucinations, cognitive issues, basically mania. It'll make you like start to lose it. Is there a way to like elevate that sounds that the human ear can hear it? I'm not sure if I can. I know. I honestly, if you could hear it

I don't know if that would be Completely fatal like I don't know if that's I don't know. That's how I feel about the other side of the moon Oh, yeah, the other side of the moon is a scary fucking place. I don't know what have you ever heard those frequencies? After this we're playing you those frequencies it'll change you as an individual. Yeah. You have to. Okay. I'm sorry.

You work here now. This is what's gonna have. It's the hospital work environment. I'm pinning you down and playing you the dark side of the mood. I'm gonna play that and some black hole sounds and then you can go home. Have you heard black hole sounds? I've heard them referenced and now I'm afraid. Black hole sounds. I have heard them referenced in that order of phrase. Yeah, black hole sounds, it basically sounds like, you know, a hell chorus.

Correct. Of tortured souls. That's Hades. It's given sinister vibe. It's given sinister vibe. Give them dark signs. Give them dark signs. Good job going and following sinister vibe.

Oh, you did? Because I've seen a lot of people be like, I'm here from listening to more of it. I'm here. You're here sinister it. I'm here to survive. It's me, don't do my job. It's a good job. It go find her sinister pom-pay, it's hilarious. But yeah, so.

On the talk. I think the impression of the sound is very interesting to me. It was interesting me in Diet Love Pass. I think it's a possibility for Diet Love too, for both. I think it's a pretty good, and at least is one of those that you're like, okay, like that has legs. I can see that. Just because of the symptoms that it causes. I just don't like it. Oh, I hate it. Yeah. I hate the existence of it.

That's actually something that like some paranormal investigators, when they go to like haunted places and stuff like that. That's one of the things like the theories behind why people are experiencing certain stuff like that is because of like poor wiring and stuff like that. So it can actually cause that like frequency and it can make people feel like nauseous and kind of gross and like paranoid and stuff like that. So it's like an interesting. It's just like a thing side of it. It's like the ghost chatting. Yeah.

They're all just using that sound. I mean, never know. On like a different way, if like I think wasn't didn't Sam and Colby like at the um Velisca acts murder house didn't Colby say like either him or Sam had to like run out of the house because they were not sure yeah I think it was Sam and I think he said like for days afterwards he's so close to it like he was super nauseous so I wonder if that was anything to do with it in terms Colby if you're listening what what say you um also let's all go to Romania to this forest I I wanna go see this.

Oh, you gotta get over the fighting side. I can do it. They would be so down to go to Romania. Let's go to Romania. I'm Colby correct. This is our official invitation to say I'm in Colby. But either way, our guy Adrian, Adrian, he was actually interviewed.

He has great hair. By the way, he has this huge mop of black hair. Adrian, why? Adrian, you're like, I need this huge mop of black hair. Adrian Waw. Adrian, you're like, I need to see this. I'm like, let me see this. Adrian Patrute, P-A-T-R-U-T. He has a wonderful head of hair. He was interviewed on Destination Truth, which Mikey told to me. He was one of my crushes, Josh, from that.

I heard the voice. I heard the voice. I heard her like she was watching a clip from it and I'm like, is that Josh? He like, is that Josh? Is that Josh? Me and him. And it was.

We're dating. He didn't know. It's fine. It's fine. But now he does. Now he knows. And you know what, Josh went to Romania to the Hoiabachi forest.

Shit. And he describes reports of people being pushed back off their feet in this forest. And on destination truth, the camera guy got physically scratched on camera. Like you can see the scratch happen. You can see it start to bleed. Like you got scratched while being in the middle of the forest. But the camera operator also got literally blown off of his feet in the circle from when he was sitting in the middle of the clearing. There was no wind. He just got like blown and you can see it on camera. Lots. It's wild. I'm trying to find Adrian. And also, they flew in this tiny plane over the forest so they could see that giant clearing in the middle.

And as they were in the little plane, the plane started going crazy and then the roof of the fucking plane ripped off. Bye. Yup, bye. Yeah. Not that, not that, how pure anxiety. Well, this was a tiny little plane

that was like the size of his forearm. So like, I won't be getting in any of those. My God, Adrian is a beautiful human. He is a beautiful man. Look at Adrian. He's a beautiful man. Like a just a beautiful, adorable human. I love that.

That is some flow. Yeah, that's a lot of flow. It's true. He has a great moustache. He does. Shout out to Adrian. Shout out to Adrian. But yeah, the roof was ripped off.

It was on camera. Like they were filming in the plane. And at one point you see the roof tear off. And one of them is like the roof just tore off. Like, and they're flying. And they were flying above the forest when this happened. How did it go home? Like that is time to go home.

Yeah. You know, I'm going to be honest. That would be my, uh, see you later. Yeah. You just like you. I don't even know, that would be my, uh, see you later. You just like, I don't even know. I would go to Cardiac or else. She would come like, I would, that would be the end of me. Yeah.

Like, like, she dies. I'm so proud of you. She had the kind of you thing, bitch. Like, she died. Um, wow. Yeah. I'm not well, bitch. I have to get out of plane on Saturday.

So thanks for getting. Again, this is like one of those tiny, like when Josh, when your boy Josh, doing that skillet, he could have picked it up in his arms. Like it's like a toy plane. Like a toy plane. Like it was, oh no, nobody's going on that plane. Like nobody except for Josh.

Nobody now, because the plane, that fucking roof is gone. It's gone now. And that was in the first episode that they went to this place. They went back to this place because they wanted to re-cat, they wanted to see if they could have the same experiences because they tried to debunk things. They wanted to the roof to fall off again. Well, not that necessarily. They wanted to go back into the forest and see if they felt the same things to see if it was just a fluke, like, if they could figure out what it was. So the second time they went, they did the same things to see if it was just a fluke, like, if they could figure out what it was. So the second time they went, they did the same flight over the forest so they could see

the clearing and they wanted to take thermal imaging of it. As they're doing it, tons of wind just over that clearing started throwing the plane everywhere to the point where the pilot was like, we have to land because we're at the limit of what this aircraft can take. Holy shit. And it happened just over that clearing. And do they have to land in the clearing? No, they had to land luckily back where they were,

but they had to like, almost crash land. Like, they were like bracing for impact. Holy shit. Is this like, like geographically, is this like in the middle of like a hill? Or like what is this super clearing? It's, that's what's so weird. Like, the clearing is just in the middle of like a hill or like what is this super clean? It's definitely, it's, that's what's so weird. Like the clearing is just in the middle of the forest.

Like just a flat clearing in the middle of the forest. Like weird. And when they took off, there was no like weather advisory or wind advisory, but while they were up there over it, all of a sudden the plane starts going crazy. Like, I need, I need an answer. Yeah. It's a lot of wild shit going on in here.

And people will see lights along the edges of the forest when they're in there, which remind me of like fairy lights. Say. Like, fey and it kind of, and they'll use thermal imaging on these lights to see if they're either fires set by people or just people with lights. And they won't show up. Meaning they are not people and they are not fire. The chill that just went down my spine. And they won't show up, meaning they are not people

and they are not fire. The chill that just went down my spine. Because they won't show up. Oh, bitch. That is so creepy. And people will get them on camera. Like you'll see on the horizon through the forest, you'll see little lights on the edge.

I hate it. Yeah. And what people think these might be are the spirits of farmers and peasants from medieval times that were murdered in like, because this comes from a story of like, the Middle Ages where hundreds of peasants were taken into the forest and slaughtered by like,

raiding armies. What the fuck? So they think these might be like spirits of those people. Oh my God. Yeah. That's so sad. Isn't that so sad? That's horrific. And when it's even sadder, is locals also have said that people often go in there, kind

of like Okigahara, and they kind of go in there to hang themselves a lot of times. And they'll say, and people locals think that it's like the energy in that forest, like pushes them to do it. Oh, I just, I hate a haunted forest. Yeah. And so this, this whole like thing of like the lights on the edges and possibly they're like these spirits of these murdered, you know, farmers from back in the day, there is something that points to the possibility that that is can kind of real. Because there's evidence of a settlement that was from very near there,

dating back to Neolithic period. What the fuck is that? The Neolithic period is basically the new Stone Age, and it has to do when ground or polished stone weapons were like the thing. And while the rage, the liquid animals were being domesticated, permanent settlements were finally being developed

like way back into 6,500 BC. Which would make it the oldest settlement in Romania. And it was right near this place, which means the place where Hoyabachi is could potentially be part of that settlement or just on the outskirts of that settlement. I'm not well. Which makes that settlement disappeared. So they think maybe a raiding army came in, rounded them all up in the forest and killed off all the people in that settlement. I thought it'll leave some energy.

It will, yeah. So this settlement is Gura, and I don't know if I'm saying this right, we looked everywhere. We did, we had a survivor. So I think it's Guru Bacheloo. I believe it is. I'm going to go with it.

I thought it was Bachelooie. You thought it was Bachelooie? It could be either, to be quite honest. If you're from Romania. What is it? Help us. According to ancient origins.net, it is associated with the Stasivo course, Chris Archaeological Complex, and it's basically the settlement

representing the earliest farmers in Europe. And it's extremely important for investigating agriculture where it began, how it changed, and how it made its way to Europe in the first place. Which is just interest. That's because. It's just some interesting shit. Farmers need. Farmers't know I think farmers are Yeah, or like only farmers. Oh my god guys. I'm starting an only farmer only farmers check out my crop exclusively here That would be adorable So people also will see faces in the forest And they show up in photos a lot.

Yeah, a lot of faces, a lot of spirits, a lot of full body apparitions. Oh, the cheerfrike of me. All that shit. They show up in photos. A lot of times people will hear female voices or children's voices. That's the issue. Those are the two type shit. Yeah.

And people, like a lot of the ghost, you know, Hunter people are, they've experienced this on the two. Those are the two type shit. Yeah, and people, like a lot of the ghost, you know, the hunter people, are, they've experienced this on the shows. Some people hear giggles of young girls, especially. No. And they'll hear screams of young girls and women, particularly. That's not for me. They describe a lot of the voices as talking wind, like they're traveling on the breeze. Like it almost feels like it's like being blown over to you,

the voice, which is like both horrifying and beautiful at the same time. It's true. It's like poetry. It is. It's just like, oh, talking wind. I like that. So also people here, the sound of really, like, it almost sounds like deer, like hooves, but it's like really heavy, like too heavy for a deer, and like almost like a horse running through the forest.

Damn. And they won't see any of this, and they'll hear it at night. And many tour guides, because you can go on tours through this forest, like hello, they won't camp out in there at night, because they've experienced that and they've come out of their 10,

some million times to see nothing. But they'll hear things running right past their 10. Do you think it could possibly be like some kind of animal that's extinct now? Or like some kind of weird cryptid. Yeah, some Romanian cryptid. Yep. There you go.

Cause people will also see glowing eyes at night and sometimes they're greenish or red. It's the, it's the melaneds. It's the melaneds in Romania. They traveled. You never know. On spring break. Also, electronic devices will stop working.

That happens a lot to the tour guides. And let's get to the trees. Because we were saying the trees are weird. They're weirdly shaped. I saw a couple curvy ones. trees are weird. They're weirdly shaped. I saw a couple curvy ones. They're twisted. They're strangely shaped.

They almost seem like they bend in like a J or like an L shape. Yeah. And they almost seem like people say it seems like they bend towards you, almost like they're trying to grab you as you walk. And they also have char marks on them sometimes, like randomly with no explanation, they just look burned. What?

And then people will say like, there will be no wind, but their trees around you will start bending and moving. Like whose wind? Yeah, almost like they're grabbing you. Or like leading you somewhere. This is not Harry Potter and I'm not interested. They also grow in a clockwise direction.

That's never good. Which is, it has very strange growth patterns happening And scientists have tried but they can't figure out what's happening Like yours is happening my theory maybe back in like the Stone Age as they planted the trees I don't know if you could do that back then, but like the crop or the crop farmers and all of them like did it as like a superstition the crop farmers and all of them, like, did it as like a superstition. You know? But it's like, why are they bending? Like, that's the problem.

I don't have an answer about it. But like, I don't have an answer, because I tried. There's really no explanation for it now. Like, they really, because they are bent in such a way that is so extreme. It's such a severe that is so extreme. It's such a severe bend that it's not like wind could have caused it. It's like they go straight up for like a little like boom. Like they bend.

Yeah, it should look like they, like if they shouldn't bend like that without breaking. No, they bend and don't break. Yeah. But it's very strange. Like this whole foot, which gives this whole thing and even creepier feel to it, because these trees are just not normal. Because the trees are trying to get you. Yeah, and some of them have like a red tinge to the bark.

It's like, yeah, so you'll be feeling like they're like blood. It's blood, blood. But, and then I talked about that, that perfect, like clearing in the middle of the forest. It's completely bare. It's a clearing in the middle of the forest. It's completely bare. It's a dead zone. No vegetation, no trees, nothing grows there. And it's known as the circle.

And they have tried. People have tried to plant things there. They have tried everything. It is a perfect circle that nothing grows in. And they have tested the soil here. Because they were like, okay, maybe there's something to do with the soil composition. It is exactly the same composition as the rest of the forest. There is no, and the lush dense forest around it. There is absolutely

no reason that they can find that things would not grow here. That is so bizarre. Like what the fuck? Some people think that one, the damnable, either this is like the portal to hell and like this is where all the shit comes from and that's why it's just like dead. It kills whatever happens there before it even gets a chance to grow. Or some people think that a UFO actually landed there

at one point and killed off all the things like under it because it's a perfect circle and it's big. But when you think that would affect the soil beneath, I don't know. I would think that I don't know enough about UFOs. I mean, I don't either, but my inference would be that some kind of radiation would end up in the soil. That would show up on tests. But who knows? But it all depends on whether they're testing. Exactly. So if they're not testing for radiation They're not testing Test for that UFO radiation And you test for radiation and it's there a UFO landed there period. There you go

I also love the portal to hell idea where like this is where everything just comes out of the Because people do say that as they get closer and closer to this clearing That's when more and more shit happens and that's when more and more shit happens. And that's when more and more of the symptoms are happening. That's when more and more of the, you know, like ghosts and sounds and giggling and feelings and all the stuff starts happening the closer you get to it. And it was in that clearing that on destination truth, they got the scratch, they got blown off their feet like diamonds. Yeah, diamonds. Diamonds.

I said earlier that when in that destination truth episode when they flew over it, they were trying to use the thermal cameras. So they did. They use the thermal cameras and they found that just the circle gave off thermal energy. Nothing around it. Because it's hell. It's way hotter than the surrounding forest. That's hell.

I'm saying. I never thought I believed in her, but there she is. There she is. There she is. There she is. There's a hell mill. It's not in Sunnydale. It's Sunnydale. That's the... That's the... That's the... The original... We found him. Oh, he died, but he died. He died. It's the original Sunnydale. Dude, a spike lift down. And they show if spike lift down there, sign me up for the next flight. A little bit of a death. I will dive, sign me up for the next flight. Oh, it is about to die. I will die, but I'll give you up for the next flight.

But that's crazy. There's a video too, like they show the thermal energy computer, and you can see it is a perfect thermal energy, like circle in that clearing. Do people say that they got like, they feel hotter there? I haven't, honestly, I haven't read that they feel hotter, but the people do get fevers and shit, so.

Yeah. It's so creepy. And they also got an EVP on that episode of a little girl giggling and it is the most clear fucking sound. It horrified me. At least she's happy. And it was in response to them saying like, we thought we heard a little kids voice earlier, is that you?

And then she giggled in response, which is like, oof. Now people do think like we're saying that like big clearing could be like the portal hell. They also just think that this entire forest is some kind of portal. There's something going on, some kind of time manipulation happening in this place. So, I don't like that. Like, it's a place where time bends on to itself kind of trees do too. A too. Exactly. And it's like, maybe that's why the trees are so fucked up and bent. Like, it's like time literally folding in on itself and causing all these weird things. It's very... Like, Donnie Darko. Maybe it's like a parallel universe in there that like, nothing is like, things are kind of like they are, but exactly. I mean that's just me as per saying. Thank you. A lot of people lose time when they come

out of here. Like I said they'll be in there and they'll come out any other not remember anything about what happened in there or they'll go in thinking they've been in there for hours and it's been like 10 minutes when they come out or they go in there thinking they've been in there for 20 minutes and it's been six hours when they come out. That, I don't know. That gives me hours. Yeah, I don't know what it is.

That freaks me out. Like when time gets more time. Long time. I don't like it. Yeah, I don't know. I think they got abducted. They got probed. They got probed.

You probed. You probed. I think that's what happened. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. So one of the tour guides for the forest named Alex Cerdaken, I believe. I saw him.

There you go. He told the independent in 2017, once when I came here, I found 60 people from Bucharest, I believe it is, a village nearby, trying to open a gate into another dimension. So there's that. One? like 60 people all being like, Oh, hello, Alex, we're just trying to open a gate into another dimension.

I think you're right. Like, could you? Are you all right? How do you make that plan? How do you get 60 people to make that plan with you? Now, there are, and there's two legends that I'm that we have no basis for. Like, you can't find a good newspaper article. But they are enduring legends that like Romanian people

tell to this day, believe they happen. So I'm with you Romania. I'm in. One of them is that a five year old girl disappeared in the forest once. Okay. Nobody knew where she was. The search parties went out. They could not find her. No trace of her. Nothing. Nobody knew where she was. The search parties went out.

They could not find her. No trace of her. Nothing. They had to give up. They had to mourn the loss. All that. And then she reappeared five years later, wearing the same clothing,

and not remembering anything about the time that she had been gone. And she was still five. No, she, I think she had aged. She had aged. There are some that say like she didn't age, but like that's not really too much for me. You're like, she was trying to be close, but she was still five. No, I think she had aged. She had aged. There was some that say like she didn't age, but like that's not really too much for me. You're like, she was close, but she was 20.

But she was 20. How many years later started? No, it was five. She was 10. She was just 10. Put math as hard, okay? Yeah. And I mean, I'm sure she wasn't eating heartily

while she was gone in the paranormal dimension for five years. But she didn't remember anything. Didn't remember anything. That sounds like fairy circles. I'm saying. Like literally. It does.

Because that's the type of stuff that you hear about in like Celtic legend and stuff like that. It's so true. It just disappear into the forest and reappear and it's. And have no idea what just happened. It's wild. I'm saying. I think that might be it.

And the second one that I thought was really interesting was a woman went missing. And when she was finally found wandering out of the forest, they found that she had a coin in her pocket from the 15th century. And she did not go in with a coin in her pocket from the 15th century. And it was like an authentic coin.

Cool. Which I'm like, did you go back to the fucking 15th century, my girl? My do like tell me my do dress. What happened? But she couldn't remember. Damn, it sucks. I know what you remember, which I think it's like, I'd be like, well, you have a cool, like you went back there, like just dig it out. It's in there. Sure. That memory is in there somewhere. He's got to be hypnotized or something. Exactly. Yeah. Not well, not well, bitch. bitch. Now of course there may be radio activity. They did say that some of the parts of the forest they did find natural uranium in some of the soil. So keep that

in mind that could be a thing. And like it could be radio activity. Like could be a part of the same. Right. Exactly. Like isn't that Imagine Dragons? Yes. Yeah, for a long time, I thought that song said, ready to rock you. You did think that. You didn't think that can confirm. Do you know what I found out recently? What did you find out?

I stream shot at it. Sorry, this is not anywhere where we are. You know how I always thought that this song said, don't go Jason Waterfall. Other people thought that. Other said don't go Jason waterfall other people thought that other people thought so and I found out on Instagram recently so thank you thank you and other people thought that when I was a child I sing it I sing it like that. And I found out. And I said it's chasing. She said, no, it is Jason. Waterfalls.

I said, OK. Then I'm not alone. You're not. Sorry. You are not alone. Isn't that? Oh, that's like Michael Jackson. Isn't it?

Boo. Yeah, I think it is. Isn't it? These are questions. Isn't it? These are questions. Isn't that? I don't think that one of his balance, I'm pretty sure. Everybody gets the way I'll just grab their phone. I was like, how did we get from uranium to Jason?

Waterfalls. Well, then, isn't that the, isn't that like the free willy song? Yeah, yeah, remember that movie. I never saw free willy. Wow, free willy. In fact, me and Drew in line were playing headbands and it said free willy and I was like, it's not a whale. Free willy when you put this hand up and the whale flies over his hand. I just told you I never seen it. I'm just saying, okay, so let's get back to, uh, we got there because I said radio activity and you said, radio active. And then you were like, what is that good? Thank you. All right, so let's get back to, we got there because I said radio activity and you said radioactive

and then you were like, what is that good? Thank you. All right, so August 18th, 1968, military technician, Emil Barnes was in the forest with his friends and his girlfriend, just hiking as one does. Just hiking through. And he said he saw, or his girlfriend, excuse me, saw something strange in the sky. And she was like, guys, like, can you look at this? So he looked up and sure enough, he saw a silver disc floating above the forest. And it was silent. So he took four photos of this and they're creepy. And they exist still.

The thing flew away, like just jolted away, wicked quickly. They like could barely feel what. It said no pictures. No pictures. way, like just jolt it away, wicked quickly. They like could barely feel it. What? It said no pictures. No pictures. Now a lot of people thought immediately they were like, oh, they were probably weather balloons or like something. You could throw a weather balloon. You never heard of a weather balloon. Yeah. So a weather balloon, like they use it to like, like a blimp. No, it's like a no, it's like an actual balloon. Oh, and it's used to like gather data. Yeah. And whether balloons are like, you know, they can be accounted,

like they can account for a lot of like UFO sightings sometimes. But the thing is, you can always look up whether whether balloons have been put up in the air. They are always documented. Not this time. And then you can line it up and say, yeah, there was one in the sky when you saw that. So like, that's probably it. But this time, none. There was no whether balloons going up. None of it made sense. They even looked at the negatives of these photos and they had found that there was no tampering done to these photos. Now, it's also important to note that any belief in the supernatural or paranormal would have been considered literal insanity from the communist government at

the time. He would have actually, and he actually ended up losing his job because of this, because he came out and said that he saw this. So he didn't gain anything by doing this. And like, he's actually lost a big thing. The government literally considered him like clinically insane for saying this. And he knew that, but like he was like, no, I fucking saw this. So there's that. And then in 2002, a bunch of people in a building nearby,

like a high rise building, so they saw something strange over the forest and they recorded it on video. And what they got was this really strange cigar or cigarette-shaped thing in the sky. And it was brightly colored, like all lit up. And then it just disappeared. Like just flew.

Dude. Almost like the side of a disc. I mean, aliens are real. Oh, we're definitely not alone. There's no way. No, the truth is out there. Yeah, just a silly mother. I forget where it was and mad at myself

that I don't remember, but there was like a UFO-shaped cloud somewhere recently. I love that. Sorry, I don't have more information on that. It was just a cloud. It's called something also. I think that was something weird in the sky the other day when we were on the way home from somewhere.

We were on the highway and I looked over and there was this like weird light in the sky that looked like a plane almost but never moved and it just like got and it just like suddenly was gone. So I have a confession. I almost drove us off the highway because I also saw a light in the sky. But it also didn't move and then I looked closer and it was like a light post coming out of the trees. It was weird as fuck though. It then I looked closer and it was like a light post coming out of the trees. It was weird as fuck though.

It is weird. I thought it was an ufo. I think mine was a new foe. Yours definitely sounds like it. Because it was during the day. Oh. That's what was weird. I think who was I in the car with?

Maybe I was in the car with John and I think I said something and was just like staring at it. I also think I might have taken pictures of it. So I'll look at, I'll look and see if I can see the pictures. And she just told me this now. I was in a car with this hoe for 18 plus 22 hours. Yeah, you didn't tell me that? Yeah, I think I took a picture of it.

I'll have to look. Damn. And we'll post them if I can read this. It was like a couple of weeks ago. Are you sure? Can you guys see what for a day? You're like, yeah, a couple of weeks ago, I think I met a student you I felt.

I just forgot to mention it. I think I did. Wow. Yeah. Sometimes I'm tired. Sometimes for weeks on end. Okay. Yeah.

Sometimes I forget. So I'll look. Sometimes I can't look at that. But that's the hoiabachu for it. Yeah, it is. And we don't like. We had mentioned it in our like, stay out of the woods episode, but we didn't really go like too far into it, and I had to take another look at it.

It deserved its own episode. Neated it. I needed it. Wow, I loved that. Did you love that? I love that. I just think it's so interesting that they, you know, like the ultrasonic, whatever that is.

It's so crazy. Infrasound freaks me out. Me too. Like it really does. Can't dogs hear it? Oh, possibly. That makes sense. So that they wouldn't. I wonder what would happen if you brought a dog in there, but I don't want you to do that. Oh, no. In fact, like, don't go in there. I'm not encouraging you to go in there. I'm actually discouraging you. Yeah, I'm really not. So, but if you have been in there let us know but don't go in there

I just can't believe you saw you a foe the other day. Yeah literally never told me are we friends? I don't tell anyone so she'll keep a secret I guess no he knows well now everyone knows now you all know But yeah, oh, yeah about you so Romanian listeners Tell us about it. Let us know if you have any experiences and also You're gonna be able to read the butcher and the rent in Romanian. So, go do that. If you have a listener tell about it, try to send it in within this coming week

and maybe we can update on Friday with some listener tales about it because I'd be really cool. If you've gone one. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, maybe we can do like a forest themed listener tale this week. Yeah, that would be cool. So if Yeah, maybe we can do like a forest themed listener tale this week. Yeah, that would be cool.

So if you have a woods even or a forest themed listener tale, type a listener tale in the subject line and also put in like something about the woods or the forest. Yeah, there you go. And we thank you for listening. And thanks for being here, Mikey. I love you. Thank you.

I love you guys. Mikey's gonna be here so much more in the pod lab. So you'll hear him, everyone's gonna love you. Yeah, you'll hear him. I'll be cackling in the background. Exactly. The faces are amazing. You're right.

Seeing Ash shook his hilarious. Thank you. It's a great face and Ash's period is hilarious. It is, it's true. Ah, that's the LOL. I love you guys. This has been a fun day. It has. We's true. It's the LOL. I love you guys. This has been a fun day. It has.

We're not on drugs, by the way. No, I'm like this has been a fun day, everybody's like, oh, we're also not drunk. But yeah, we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it. We're here, but that's a weird that Mikey's not sitting in your proud lab because that's fucking weird. That's right. It's not a good kind of weird, bad kind.

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