Morbid - Episode 44: The Seattle Excedrin Poisonings

Episode Date: February 9, 2019

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Starting point is 00:01:23 of your home. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's ANGI.com. Hey weirdos, I'm Elena and I'm Ash and this is Mini Morbid. Mini Morbid. Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini more bed, mini more bed, mini more bed, mini more bed! That was beautiful. That was wonderful. That was harmonized. It was. That was good.
Starting point is 00:01:54 We are the Jackson 2. We are. And welcome to a mini morbid episode that is Ash Centric. It's Ash Centric. A centric. Boogie, boogie, boogie. Quickly, maybe we should apologize for a mishap that happened in our last episode. Yes, so we got a couple of messages and I feel a fool because Elena, me, accidentally misgendered M from and that's why we drink when we discussed how awesome they were in the last podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:29 So I want to apologize for that and I want to plead my ignorance because I am a new fan of and that's why we drink like ash was the one who got me into them because she's no GFAM. She's the OG. And so I'm working on the back catalog right now. So I'm a little behind on everything and everything surrounding the podcast. So I apologize. And I hope everybody can forgive me for that. And thank you to the people who mentioned it to us because I would never want to do that and just blissfully be ignorant. And they're super nice about it too. Yeah, you guys are super nice.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So thank you for letting us know because we are always ready to correct ourselves. Absolutely. Especially if're super nice about it too. Yeah, you guys are super nice. So thank you for letting us know, because we are always ready to correct ourselves. Absolutely. Especially if people are really nice about it. I'm not sure if I said anything in the last episode. But if I did, I think you were. I apologize. Yeah. So again, thanks a lot, and thanks for being nice about the correction, because we responded
Starting point is 00:03:19 to that. So that was the business. Yeah, that was the business. Now let's dive into our Patreons as promised. Patronuses. To speak, we don't have any weirdos. Oh man. Well, they're all weirdos and I mean, they're hearts.
Starting point is 00:03:32 So in the window watching, Kevin, we have Cheyenne Toblin. Cheyenne Toblin, you are the tits. She's gonna come up. She's been weak with these things. I was gonna come up with something to rhyme but I'm tired I didn't sleep a lot less than I have kids. I don't have kids so I'm having so much to shine. Thank you so much, Cheyenne. Even though I didn't rhyme I appreciate you. Next is Laura Petr-Squeue. Laura Petr-Squeue. I think. Sorry if I fucked your name up.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I just love you. Laura Petrusky, you are the poo. Poo! Thank you so much to take a big wiss. Next is Hannah Watson. Hannah Watson, are you related to Sherlock Holmes' friend? I don't know. Watson? Watson? Thank you so much. Thanks, Hannah. Thanks, Hannah. Next is Madison Boldes. Madison Boldes. How bold have you to donate?
Starting point is 00:04:31 You're so bold to donate to our Patreon. Thank you so much. I don't know if it's Boldes or Bouds. Either way, you're bold. You're the best. You're the best. Next is Tamika Knight. Tamika Knight.
Starting point is 00:04:44 I would pick you up on the road in the middle of the night and give you a ride. Wow. Because I trust you, Tamika. Yeah, I trust you. Thanks you too, guys. Thank you so much. Next is Lonnie Yarnold.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Lonnie Yarnold. Your name is cool as fuck. Yeah, I don't even know what to say. That's a great name. Are you from Hawaii? I feel like Lonnie is a Hawaiian name. Yeah, Lonnie seems like a Hawaiian name. Like you seem like a super chilled tropical person.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I don't know if I ever mentioned it, but I was born in Hawaii. She was. I'm a native. She's a native. I don't remember that. So if you happen to be from Hawaii, that's super rad.
Starting point is 00:05:16 If you don't happen to be from Hawaii or have any connection to Hawaii, we still love you and that's still a cool name. So thank you so much Lonnie. Thank you. Next is Holly Shea Holly Che. You're my bae. I thought I never would hear you say it. I actually hate the word bae, but I'll use it. You got a bae? Or no. Thank you so much. Thanks Holly. Next is Diane Dirloyne. I'm gonna say.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Diane Dirloyne? Yeah. You're like a sirloin steak. Oh, which is delicious. So rarest. And less you're vegan in which case I'm sorry. Unless you're a leanon like you're steak well done. I do.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I ruin steak. Death to all people who like steak well done. Thank you so much. Thanks Diane. Next is Bree Rawlings. Bree Rawlings, you are named after a really great cheese spread. I can't even express to you how much I love Bree cheese. And the name Bree is very nice.
Starting point is 00:06:16 It is. It's just nice to my senses. I like it. It feels good. So thanks Bree for being so good. Thank you so much Bree. You're delicious. Next is Madison Woolbert. Madison Woolbert. Woolbert. Wool-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W-W Francis D-Leon, or D-Lon. D-Lon.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It's a good thing I wasn't a teacher. I could never fucking read a ton of cheats. I'd be like, sorry everyone in my closet. You'd be like red-headed kid, are you here? Thank you so much, Francis. You belong in our cup, and... Yeah, you do. You belong here. Thanks, Francis. Next is Benjamin Price.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Benjamin Price. Benjamin is one of my favorite names. I love that name too. Benjamin. So thanks Benjamin. Thanks. Thanks for having a nice name. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next is Janine Styles. Janine Styles, you Stylin. Yeah, you just are. You're styling in our cousin. You made our, you made our cousin more stylish. Yes, with yourself. Yes. Thank you so much, girl.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Next is ChloeHS. ChloeHS. Do you have your own high school? Yeah, there you go. Chloe high school, good call. Hey, oh. And also, Ash loves the name Chloe. I do.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And I also dig the name Chloe. Thank you so much, Chloe. Thank you. In the evil onion category we just have Trista Johnson. Trista Johnson, welcome to the evil onion. You know what? She's enough. You're you know what you are enough. Thank you so much. You're more than enough. You're the most enough. You're the most. I love you. Thank you Trista. I just love you. Then we have a jagged little bit. up Jen Vinsel Jen Vinsel Thank you so much for being a jagged little bitch. Thank you Jen. I wrote your name really pretty You did it looks nice. She took time on that one
Starting point is 00:08:14 I did I wrote it with a Prismacolor pencil. You did I have Prismacolor colored pencils I was like you got a pen and she's like I got these Prismacolors. I was like I'm just writing people's names I like a don't coloring books. Okay. Get off my back I don't. That's like one thing that I never got behind. I have an egg ground po1 and it's pretty fun. I have like six but I don't. I only have one of them. And it's the egg ground po1 and I like it. It's very soothing when you've had a bad day. It's nice to color. If you have time or drink wine. I got wine. I'm not a big one. I know it's last night. Not a big wine drinker. Yeah. Then we have a custom zoneator and she actually already was a patron, but she edited to a custom and she's in her own category and her name is Carolyn J. Loop.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Can Carolyn J. Loop? I have to remember you, you threw us for a loop and she's done it again and you just keep doing it. Loping and looping and looping. Thank you so much Carolyn. So let's get to the case. Oh my goodness. So many amazing petrances. Guys, thank you so much. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Every day. You're getting well rewarded for it. I promise. Every damn week you blow our minds. I really do. Elena and I are getting together tomorrow night. We're going to hang out and we're gonna put your shit together and send it out to you.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Pretty true. We're gonna get it together. And we got big plans that we're gonna be working on tomorrow night. We sure do. So get ready. Maybe we'll live stream every like some, we should.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So goofiness. I'll try to look good tomorrow. Yeah, I'll announce it if we feel like we're gonna, we're gonna live stream. If I look like horse shit, don't comment, okay? Yeah. All right, are you ready? I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm really ready. I'm gonna do that thing where I just start reading my notes to you. I love that. I love that. So on the day of Andorne I dove, June 5th, 1986, Bruce Nichol came home from work with a headache. I mean, that's one often does. According to his wife, he took four extra strength
Starting point is 00:10:05 excedrons and collapsed only minutes later. Ooh. Yes. I think I might know this one. Fuck, I'm not sure. Just kidding. It's great if you do. Either way, it's great if it's the one I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Bruce took some excedrons and he collapsed after, and then he died, unfortunately, at the Harbor View Medical Center. That's terrible. It's really sad. He's come home with a headache and you're dead. Well, and at first his death was ruled to be the result of natural causes and and fizima. But his wife begged to differ when she heard about another death that had happened only about a week after her husband's death. So at first she was like, maybe it was after Zazeema, but that seems weird.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah. And then she was like this other person just died. So that's a weird coincidence. And you would think it would be like aneurysm or something that they would think it would be. Right. So the other person that unfortunately died was Susno. She was a mother and a wife
Starting point is 00:11:02 and actually a vice president at a local branch of the Puget Sound National Bank. Damn, you go girl. She was killing it. She was. She was 40 years old and had recently been married for a third time. Her new husband recalled the pair being madly in love. Aww.
Starting point is 00:11:18 That's what they always say. Just kidding. Maybe they weren't madly in love. You never know. Maybe he's a suspect. Ooh, he's throwing me for a loop. You don't know. I'm throwing you for't madly in love. Maybe he's a suspect. Ooh, he's throwing me for a loop. You don't know. I'm throwing you for a carol and a loop. On the morning of June 11th, Sue woke up and started her regular routine.
Starting point is 00:11:35 She went to the bathroom to get ready and she took two exedron capsules, which she did every morning. Wow. Which, some sites said that she suffered migines, so she just took them in case, but then other sites and one documentary that I watched said that she liked the caffeine from the pill instead of drinking coffee. Oh, okay. I mean, I get migraines and I take accedrin migraines. Yeah, but not every day, right? No, in fact, I only take them when I feel one coming. Wouldn't you be a tolerance? I wouldn't want it. Yeah, I wouldn take them when I feel one coming. Wouldn't you be a intolerance to have- I wouldn't want it.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Yeah, I wouldn't want to take one every day. And I just wouldn't want to take like an over the counter pill every day if I don't have to. Well, some people said that she likes the caffeine, so maybe that's what it was. Or maybe my nose is great. I don't know. Either way. So actually, in my notes, it says except either way. This morning did not go on as usual.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I know. Her 15-year-old daughter, Haley, heard a thud in the bathroom, and she went to check on her mom. Also did it happen like right away? Like a few minutes. Wow. Okay. So she went into check on her, and she discovered that Sue was like on the floor, and she still had a faint pulse. And her eyes were open.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And when she called 911, she said she looked dead, except her eyes were open, and she had to faint pulse and her eyes were open. And when she called, it's nice, and one more time. She said she looked dead, except her eyes were open and she had a faint pulse. So Sue was rushed to the hospital, but because the doctors couldn't figure out how to treat her based on her symptoms, she died quickly and was sent to the medical examiner. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:12:59 I know. This is just like a nightmare. It's really sad. Like you just take a pill that like normally just take for like an egg or like a cramps medication. These kind of things scare the shit out of me. I know I wanted to take out Bill P. M last night, but when I had a lot of wine and two, I was afraid to take anything. So while the autopsy was performed, Janet Miller realized that she smelled the scent of bitter almonds. Ooh, I know what that is. That's hot.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Maybe. I talk psychology test was performed and the results confirmed the bitter almonds scent. Sion of the... Oh no girl. So I actually didn't know this before, but only between 20% and 40% of the population do not carry the gene to smell cyanide. That's interesting. Some people can smell it, but some people can't. Yeah, that's interesting. I don't know if I would want that to rate. I mean Maybe it's kind of a good treat to have yeah Anyways, so investigators did a search of the snow home and discovered that cyanide Descined came from the Accadren capsules that Sue had taken that morning. So fucked up. And more fucked up, her husband also took
Starting point is 00:14:09 excedron from the same bottle that morning. What? And he was fine. And he was fine. So it was determined that three capsules out of the remaining ones contained toxic amounts of cyanide. And she happened to get.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And it was just like, oh my god. Oh my god. I'm off of the draw. Wow. So news the draw. Wow. So news in Seattle spread quickly. After another tampered bottle was found at a grocery store in Kent. And at this point, Bristol Myers, who is slash was
Starting point is 00:14:35 the manufacturers of Accadren, I think they still are. I don't know. Well, Bristol Myers, they were. The manufacturers of Accadren, publicized a recall of all Accadren products in Seattle. And a group of drug companies came together with an offer of $300,000 reward for the capture of whoever was responsible for tampering with the products. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:14:59 This must be so hard to figure it out. Yeah. So in the meantime, Stella and Sue's husband, Paul, both pointed the finger up, Bristol Myers and a filed wrongful death suits against the company. I would in one second do that. Absolutely. And then while this was all happening, the FDA went out to the plant, which was in Morrisville, North Carolina, to inspect it, to figure out where the sign I was coming from.
Starting point is 00:15:23 How far reaching is this now, like the destination wide? So they inspected it and that was the tainted lot had come from that branch. Oh, okay. So, but when they got there, they were unable to detect any signs of cyanide whatsoever in the branch. Wow. Like nothing. So on June 18th, Bristol Myers recalled all exedron capsules in the US. That's probably a good idea.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And warned consumers not to take any that they had previously purchased. Two days. I couldn't piss because that's the only thing that helps my life. I know. Can you imagine? I know. I'm going to be so prepared. And they probably lost like billions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Oh my god. So then two days after that, the company announced a recall of all of their non-prescription capsulated products. Oh shit. So like everything. Oh my god. And then on June 24th,
Starting point is 00:16:15 a cyanide contaminated bottle of Anacin three was found at the same store where Sue had purchased the Accadrin that killed her. So it's like, is somebody doing it in the store? Well, wait. So then, I know I know this case, but I don't know the details. So on June 27th, Washington State declared a 90-day ban on the sale of non-prescription medication and capsules. Oh shit. Like any fucking medicine. Wow. So if you had cramps, yeah, it was gonna work out. You're getting on your heating pad. If you had a headache, you had to go to bed. We just had to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. Wow, that sucks. Especially for people with like chronic pain and stuff that have to take like, yeah, you know, just these like over the counter pain pills just to like get through the work day. Exactly. Oh, that sucks. Like I said, Stella, back to her, had serious doubts that her husband died for a month of Zima.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And she told police that he had died after taking the excedron capsules and that this must have had some connection. Yeah. So she actually gave the police two different bottles of the exedron that she claimed to have bought from two different stores. Well, I heard how you said claimed. Yeah. So, at this point, thousands of bottles from the Seattle area had been tested for cyanide and only two came up positive For traces of the poison and they were the ones that killed the people, right?
Starting point is 00:17:31 I believe so. Yes, and Stella's bottles were tested and shockingly both came up positive for traces of cyanide So now that makes four and she has two of the four in the entire yeah makes four and she has two of the four in the entire. Yeah. So actually I don't think that includes two more. I was gonna say so that probably didn't. I think one of them was Seuss, two where the one she handed over and one was random. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:17:53 But then eventually five bottles total were confirmed to have cyanide traces, including the two that Stella had. Yeah, that's a lot. So two out of five, you got, and you bought them at two different stores. The odds of that, like some math genius needs to write out the odds of that. Yeah, that's crazy. You're unlucky girl Yeah, you're real unlucky. Well Stella always seemed to run into bad luck. Oh Stella she was born in Portland, Oregon and do you say Oregon or do you say Oregon Oregon? I say or I don't know what I say
Starting point is 00:18:24 I just said Oregon. I think I say Portland, Oregon. Yeah, maybe when I'm talking I say Oregon or do you say Oregon Oregon? I say or I don't know what I say. I just said Oregon. I think I say Portland, Oregon. Yeah. Maybe when I'm talking I say Oregon, but then, no, that sounds weird. Sounds like Oregon. Like Oregon and you are gone. So yeah, she grew up there.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And she had grown up poor. She was married before Bruce and had her first daughter Cynthia at 16 years old. OK. She had another daughter years later, but there's not much information about that. She had also been into frequent trouble with the law over the years for things like fraud.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Oh, forgery. Oh. And beating her daughter Cynthia. Oh, okay. Yeah, so little stuff. I forget what she beat her with, but she beat her so bad that she bruised her cheek, I believe. Oh my God. And when, like when she was a kid that she bruised her cheek, I believe. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And when, like when she was a kid, I think she was like nine years old. Oh my god. I mean, not that it's better to beat your adult child, but a child. No, child abuse. Child abuse. Child abuse. And she said it was because she was jealous of her. Oh, Stella's not looking good.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Like her daughter, she said that her daughter was jealous of her. Yeah, Stella's not looking good here. Like girl, like maybe, maybe don't do that. Yeah. Maybe you're her mother. Maybe, like try to be her mother. Yeah. So she didn't have the best reputation either after all that. Weird. So strange. Very weird. People said that she liked to wear tight dresses and go bar hopping with her husband Bruce. Which if I take out all that other stuff and like you do you. Yeah, people like, I think when you add on all the other stuff, you're like,
Starting point is 00:19:49 Stella, what are you doing? Yeah. Basically, it sounds like she was just kind of tacky. Yeah. She doesn't seem like she's living her best life. That's classiest life. No. I really like the name Stella too, but I do too. I love that name. I can't be liking it anymore. No, because that's all I'm gonna think about. Is that she's just not doing well? Doesn't somebody yell that in a movie? Still not! Streetcar named desire.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Wow, that's it. You said that fast. Sorry. So yeah. According to Cynthia, her mom had been getting really annoyed with Bruce lately because he'd been out of work a lot and he'd also quit drinking. And still, I thought that was a bore.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I know that it really annoys me when people get sober. I was like, what is up with you? Why are you sober? Like, come on. Get out of here. Fucking a bruise. Fucking sober. So for five years, Stella had been talking to Cynthia
Starting point is 00:20:39 about killing her husband. I mean, mother-daughter shit, right? Yeah, you know, like bonding as a new dinner and get your nails done together. You just like sit in there. I think I'm gonna kill Bruce. Watching Project runway. That okay.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I might kill your dad, is that cool? Well, it wasn't her dad, it was so bad. But like still. Your father figure, is that cool? And she just felt like it would solve a lot of her problems. Yeah, totally. It won't bring any new ones at all.
Starting point is 00:21:03 At all. Yeah. Killing people always solves problems. It never totally. It won't bring any new ones at all. That's a shame. Yeah. Killing people always solves problems. It never brings new ones to them. For sure. It's just like clear that I heard. Yeah. I'm glad that she watched enough date line to realize she totally did.
Starting point is 00:21:15 So another thing that would probably solve a lot of her problems was the $76,000 life insurance policy that she took out on Bruce in 1985. Guys, life insurance policies are tricky, man. I don't think I'll ever get a life insurance policy. If you're not doing it together, then there's a problem. If one person is doing it on their own, you know, there is a segment on 2020 in your future. And also, sometimes if you're doing it together,
Starting point is 00:21:45 it's not so easy. I know that's true. You don't know what your boy or your man or your woman or your lady, but it's like, has planned. I'm gonna bury it under an old tree like Ron Swanson. Yes, off the grid. Ha ha. So the other thing that probably would have solved a lot of her problems is if her husband died accidentally.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah, I mean, wouldn't that solve everyone's problems? Well, it would really help her because if Bruce died accidentally, it gave her an extra $100,000. Wow. And, oh, and also she was the sole beneficiary just so you know. So she literally would have gotten every single penny of that. Man, the bad luck that this woman has, it's wild. It's just, it's really wild. It's just it's really
Starting point is 00:22:26 interesting. Huge bummer. Yeah, it really is. So Cynthia came forward and told police that in the spring of 1986, her mom became fascinated with the Chicago Tylenol poison ice. That I was thinking of that one, which is actually unsolved. And that's the one I knew was unsolved. So I was like, wait, and for a second, I thought this thought this might be that and you're like Ashley wrong. It's time. Yeah, no But I was like ooh this is a day. No, it's Chicago Guys I fucking research you did I'm very into this so She said that she knew her mom was capable of doing something like this But she said quote when it's your own mother. You don't want to believe she could oh my god
Starting point is 00:23:04 I can't imagine being like, my mother is very capable of poisoning a bottle of eccentricity. My mom is very capable of literally murder. Like, I'm being very confident in that. Like, oh no, she's very capable. My mother is very capable of handling cyanide. Yeah, like that's a life. Shit.
Starting point is 00:23:21 That's a life. So it started to become pretty clear why Stella had been so adamant that her husband's death was not for M. Fizima. Oh yeah. She wanted the extra money for the open terms. Oh yeah, it's getting that extra hundred grand. Like, has it fucking $70,000 isn't enough for you? I would sh-
Starting point is 00:23:36 But if she had a hundred and seventy thousand- I would sh- Shit. My pants, if anyone was like- Here's- You get this. Yeah. Like-
Starting point is 00:23:44 I mean, what if they were like- You have to murder your spouse first? I'd- Shit, my pants then too and like, here's your... You get this. Yeah. Like, I mean, what if they were like, you have to murder your spouse first? I'd shoot my pants then too and say, no, thank you. I'd be like, yo, who are you? I'd be like, what? You're come from who are you shading fingers? That's a bridge troll. First, you have to solve a riddle and kill somebody.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Kill your spouse. That's a... Bye. I feel like, whoa. I don't want to cross the bridge. You went from riddle to murder your spouse. What happened here? Thanks, though. So, yeah, she wanted the want to cross the bridge you went from riddled to murder your spouse what happened here. Thanks though So yeah, she wanted the extra money from the life insurance policy and if her husband had been murdered by some crazy person
Starting point is 00:24:11 Lacing exedron with cyanide that would surely fall under the accidental that feels pretty accidental The male super accidental So the question was now how were they gonna get concrete evidence that she did it? I think you can't just be like I'm gonna do. Well, she got well all of this makes a lot of circumstantial evidence that I'm That's pointing to it, but they wanted a good-ass kiss So Cynthia came forward with some more information Cynthia what you got I think she got a money reward for all her information But like I'm gonna go on her after a childhood I had
Starting point is 00:24:44 Stella told Cindy that she'd been trying to poison Bruce with Fox Glove. Oh my saying that right. Fox Glove. Fox Glove. Hidden in capsules but that it had been unsuccessful. Wow. After this. I think that's also called like digitalists. I believe digitalists. I meant to look more into it but I didn't. After this she started going to the library to check out books on poison as one does. Cynthia never thought to be like hey stop. Maybe she didn't. Or maybe she was afraid her mom was gonna hit her on the face again. It's true but I'd rather be hitting the face than be like knowledgeable about my
Starting point is 00:25:24 mother poisoning so that's true. But who's to say that she didn't? That's true but I'd rather be hidden the face than be like knowledgeable about my mother poisoning substance, true. But who's to say that she didn't? That's true. Stella seemed unstoppable. To be honest, that's very true. So yeah, she had been checking out books on poison, which like you're leaving a paper trail if you're checking out fucking books. So the police headed over to the Auburn Public Library with a search warrant for all the books that Stella had checked out. Oh no. One was legit called Human Poisoning. Like girl, be a little more nonchalant. How to murder your husband for dummies. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:25:53 You might as well have checked that out. And I have a lot of weird books that would definitely put me on an FBI watch list and somebody looked at my library, but I'm also not slowly poisoning my husband. So that's good to know. I feel like that's where she crossed that line. I was thinking last night when I was typing in 50 million things,
Starting point is 00:26:10 like how to know if you can smell cyanide. The cyanide Chicago murderers. I was like, I'm fucked if anything ever happens to anyone. I think that all the time while researching cases, because I Google the weirdest shit. I do try to get the little details, like you were saying how you can can detect cyanide. Yeah, it's like they're like yeah you're a good guy. Whoever big brother is watching my search engine right now. Oh god. So they fingerprinted the books too and found her fingerprints like all over the pages.
Starting point is 00:26:38 She was like loving all over it. Including one page for cyanide. Oh, interesting. Like that specific page of cyanide. Again, what bad luck for her. Yeah, it's really just very coincidental. So in case that wasn't enough evidence, it also became clear while inspecting the contents of the Accendron, the ones that were contaminated with the cyanide. Within the cyanide, there was also little green specs.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Ooh. That they were like, what the fuck is this? Look at that, B. And a pond. Is that the digitalis? Nope. Upon further investigation, they were tested and determined to be algae destroyer.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Wow. That's very specific. The investigators remembered seeing a large aquarium at Stella's home. Oh snap. Like, fuck yeah. I love when shit connects like, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Wow, wow. Like that's awesome. Wow. So they started to check fish stores nearby, you know, like the fish stores. You know fish stores. I thought that was funny. The fish store.
Starting point is 00:27:39 The fish store. They come across one that Stella apparently frequents often. We all frequent a fish store. I mean, no one comes out of a fish store. Who does that? Mine's pet go, where the pets go. Sponsor us, but the employee there remembered selling her the algae destroyer, and he had told her to soften it before she used it.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Ah, so it confirmed that Stella must have crushed up the cyanide in the same container that she has been crushing her algae or like softening the algae. Oh my god Imagine that leading to it and that dumb move. It was it was present in all five bottles. That were all about it Like every single bond all the bottles together. Yes. Oh my God. So on December 9th, 1987, the jury indicted Stella Nichol on five counts of product tampering. Holy shit. Including two which resulted in the deaths of Brissnick by Brissnickle and Sue Snow. She went to trial in April of 1988 and was found guilty on all charges on May 9th after
Starting point is 00:28:46 five days of deliberation, which I really didn't get to take in that long. I know. But she was sentenced to two terms of 90 years in prison for the deaths of Sue and Bruce and then out top of that, three 10 year terms for all of the product tampering. Bye, bitch. She still maintains her innocence. Oh, fuck off, Stella. And she's like, there's things that didn't come out and they paid the fish store guy Oh stop it's Stella it is Stella oh I'm so glad that ended that way algae destroyer the algae destroyer and that it was
Starting point is 00:29:18 present in all the bottles all of them can you imagine being Sue family? No. How much you would want to rip this bitch? Lim from limb because it's like not only are you disgusting that you wanted to kill your own husband for a reason just to get his money But this person now you've taken my loved one with him because you're an idiot like I know fucking reason Oh, that's so senseless and she never and she she knew that knew that was going, that was a possibility that was gonna happen. So I'm gonna get that bottle. 100%. Take those pills. It's so messed up.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Fuck Stella. Man. I also could have gone like super deeper into that, but I wanted it to be like, I love it. I love it. It was so good. That was great. That was like one of my favorite ones I've ever done.
Starting point is 00:30:01 That was so weird. It's such a weird like tampering with met, like that Tylenol poison in case is really crazy. It's also more fucked up that that one is unsolved. Unsolved. They have no idea who did that. I remember I used to come home and I was like always home alone
Starting point is 00:30:14 when I was younger, thanks mom. And I would watch like all these like fucked up shows that I probably shouldn't have been watching at like 12 and 14 years old. Well 14's not bad. But I remember seeing one about the Chicago cyanide, or a Tylenol poison eggs. Tylenol poison eggs. On like the, remember like the E crime shows,
Starting point is 00:30:34 like you said, you watched the Black Dulled Angel and Benza. I remembered the, the Chicago one. Like watching it. Because it's a great, it's bonkers that they can't trace that back to anybody. Yeah, like that's the scariest part of that case. Well the other thing is in this case they didn't know where Stella got the cyanide from. Like there's no way for Trill of how she got the cyanide. I didn't even think of that. Like I couldn't find it anywhere. Wow. That's even scarier.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah. Like how the fuck? How does this get cyanide? Like what the hell? Like there's fucking a trail of you getting algae destroyer, but not signed. Yeah, exactly. Like, someone remembers you buying that weird shit, but not signed. I just wanted to told her daughter, like, I've been trying to fill your father's slowly with Fox Glove, but it's not working out. Shit, it's not working. So, I'm gonna take, I'm gonna go to the library real quick, read up on some shit.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Yeah, and I'll update you. She was researching on a murder. How fucking premeditated is that? I mean, and then you try to maintain your innocence, but all your fingerprints were all over the fucking place. And it's not like you were taking at like true crime books like case books, just to be like, oh, I'm just interested in it.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Human poison. Like you were literally looking up and then to have it connect to like, it's like, no, these kind of coincidences don't happen They don't all align just don't especially that allergy destroyer. It's like bitch. You're you got got that was the best for you got got Stella you got wow That was a good one. Yeah, that was really good. Thank you. Asch centric more
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