Morbid - Episode 453: Curses: Micah Rood & The Omen

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Today we are looking at CURSES. We talk about the curse of Micah Rood and his bloody apples which stems from murder, execution and a haunting! Then, we get into the truly real, fatal and terrifying events surrounding the production of the horror film, The Omen. Deaths, plane crashes and bombings? Was it really the wrath of the devil or something else entirely?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm always right. Yay. Hey everybody. It's morbid in the afternoon. Hey guys. No, we had a we had a morning dealing with like some some some dicky people dealing with some fuck shit. Pretty dealing with some fuck shit. Not not any of you.

Don't worry about it. Of course not. It was never. Oh, sorry. I did just rip my sweatshirt. Sturied in my anger in my anger. But yeah, we were just dealing with some fuck shit. So it's going to be morbid in the afternoon today because we meant to do this earlier. But then we got pissed off and we were like dealing with some fuck shit. So it's gonna be more of it in the afternoon today because we meant to do this earlier, but then we got pissed off. And we were like, I don't wanna do an episode pissed off.

Because my friends don't wanna hear me when I'm pissed off, they wanna hear me when I'm happy. And guess what, we're happy because Alina found a new song on TikTok. I did. By the Radist girlie that's ever graced this point. Yes. Her style is unmatched.

It unmatched. Her voice is a heathen, but like in the best way. Yeah. She is chinchilla music. I think it's chinchilla underscore music. You, you might, if you are awesome, you might have already seen this sound come across your for you page on TikTok.

And you are awesome. So you probably have. So I feel like you've heard it. But if you haven't go search it out, I'm not kidding you this song. I think the full song doesn't come out until like April 21st, I think it is. Yeah.

But she has been like promoting it with this snippet of it. Oh my God. It will, every time she posts it, people are like, why am I feral? Right now. It makes you it, people are like, why am I feral? Right now, it makes you just wanna go like, fuck shit. Like, catch us on April 21st,

like roaming around town, just leaving out the mother fucking sunroof. Do you know that about me? It's so good. That I love to like sing out the sunroof. It's my favorite thing ever, but Drugette's so mad at me. Usually it's because after it's like after a couple of drinks, when we're on my home from somewhere and he's like, get your head in the sunroof, it's my favorite thing ever, but Drew gets so mad at me. Usually it's because after it's like after a couple of drinks, when we're on our way home from somewhere and he's like, get your head in the sunroof, you idiot. He would never say that to me, but like, you know,

but I want to sing this song out the sunroof. Hell yeah, I want it, but we are going to blast that song in this studio every day. We're going to like, we're going to fuck shit up. You are covered in rainbows right now. In fact, may I take your photo? Of course you can. May I take your hat, sir? You wanna get that? We got new.

We got new. Hold on, I have to smile for a photo. Excuse me if you could please hold. You look so magical. So we got, oh my God. We, our ex should say, oh my God, I am. I'm so rich. Oh my God.

And Billy's in the photo, Billy Loomis. Of course. I'll post it. So Mikey got these new window clings for our skylights because our skylights are always just like a menace. They're always bathing us in a very harsh light and we're always like, ow, ow, ow. So Mikey was like, let me fix that.

And he got these clings that make rainbows all over the room when the sun hits it, and it is so wondrous and magical and whimsical, and it makes me so happy. It's iconic. And now even when the light is coming in harshly, it doesn't feel harsh because it's like well,

it's a rainbow. Because it's a rainbow. So I mean, some people would be mad at that, but not me. But not the kind of people we wanna hang out with. No, it doesn't matter. I'm about to go by all the Bud lights with rainbows on them. I fucking love Dylan Mulvaney. Hell yeah.

I don't even like Beer, and I would literally go by all of them. Exactly. The end. So there's that. Rainbows, Chinchilla Chin. Chinchilla Chin. What was Chinchilla music? Chinchilla music.

Yeah, that's right. Those are our recommendations for the day are rainbows and shinchilla music. And Bud Light. And Bud regular too. I was gonna say it doesn't have to be light, I don't think. It's like the blue cans though, are those the light ones? I don't know. Nor do I.

Whatever they support it, the red can. By the rainbow ones. Just by the rainbow ones, why the fuck not? What are you gonna talk about today, Bish? So we've had some gnarly ones, some gnarly cases lately, and we've also got some lined up that are gonna blow your socks off. So our anniversary's coming up.

Our five year anniversary, and we got quite, we got something planned. We have a couple of things planned. And it's something a lot of people have asked for for five full years, and Mama has been holding on to it, waiting for the right time. And the right time. But we've got, even before that,

we have some really gnarly intense, pretty bleak cases, but ones that for sure need to be told. Of course. But we figured we would kind of do a quick little, little mind reset here. Yeah. This is still pretty gnarly do a quick little mind reset here. Yeah. This is still pretty gnarly, but like in a different way. We wanted to do an episode about random curses.

Yay. So do you ever just wake up and say, I want to hear about random curses? I know who does it. And you know, the first one I will do has murder in it. It has ghost stories in it. It has a curse in it, has apples in it. It's called multifaceted look in it. But it's got several true crime elements to it, actually.

And then the second one I'm going to do, because it's just going to be two random stories that have to do with curses, is the curse of the movie, The Omen, which you might have heard that there's a curse with the Omen, but when you really dig into it, that should have wild. Good gnarly. Yeah. Good gnarly. Yeah. Super gnarly. So the first one we're going to do is the curse of Micah Rude.

Micah or Mic. It's Micah. Micah. But yeah, but it got turned into Mic later down the road. Oh, that's what we do. You know, that's weird. We just make everything shorter. I like the name Micah.

I do too. So Micah Rude also referred to us, Mic, sometimes, in several literatures. Everybody has a nickname. You know, he was a farmer in what is now Franklin, Connecticut, in the 1720s. It's Micah's name. So New England.

Can't place. You know what I'm saying? While he was alive, this play... His farm was known as Nine Mile Square or Norwich West Farms. Micah was the youngest of at least nine children too many. So he came from a little bit of chaos. He himself was known for at least a time to be a very nice man, but he develops some issues

later that may be explained when you take a look at his family. Oh, okay. So, Michael's father, his name was Thomas Rude. I'd like to give a quick little trigger warning. We are going to mention incest. Oh, horrible. He, Thomas Rude, so Micah's father, was charged and convicted for incest. Oh. He allegedly impregnated his own daughter Sarah, and she told the town officials herself. They'd become a little sus when they saw that Sarah being on wood in the 1720s had a new baby. And so she was asked about it,

and she confessed and admitted that the baby was biologically her father's child, and I guess technically his grandchild as well. Oh my God, that poor poor girl. And this wasn't even in the 1700s, this was 1600s, late 1600s when it happened. In 1772 they arrested Thomas Rude and actually hanged him. And hanged him for the crime of incest. And interestingly, he is the only person in America to ever

be executed for the crime of incest. Not the title you wanna go down with. Oh, like damn. Wow. Yeah, it was wild. And according to Stephen Jen Carella who wrote spooky trails and tall tales Connecticut. Oh, like that. He said, quote,

it was the only official execution for incest and what would become the United States. Sarah was spared death but publicly whipped. And so they agreed that she had been raped. Like she did not participate in incest, as most people do not. But this is what the original texts say about her sentencing, because I was like, excuse me. Yeah, what? It says, the sentence of the court is that she be severely whipped on the naked body once at Hartford and once at Norwich. That others may hear and fear

and do no more such abominable wickedness. So they said, don't get raped. Don't get raped by a family member. Wow. Especially. Yeah. And got whipped on the naked body publicly twice for being raped. That's like a whole other sexual assault

that she suffered. The trauma sandwich there, I can't even handle. Like that is, my brain won't even compute it. Like publicly in front of people, oh my God. So it's like now that you've been raped and are having to deal with that, let's strip you naked in front of people and whip you. Ah. Yeah.

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So he set up his farm in 1699 and he was respected. He was moderately good at farming. I wouldn't say he was like stellar. I would say he was gonna win any blue ribbons. No. You know, but like, like he wasn't as good as I am at keeping a house plant alive. It's been a couple weeks. Which I will say I have done for a couple of weeks and so I feel, I feel as though I can speak on this subject

as a farmer myself. No. I planted this weekend and within 48 hours killed two hydrager plants. You know, I usually, I'm, I'm one to, to slaughter host plants, but like, but I'm doing really good. And mostly because John said he doesn't think I can keep one alive.

So I'm like, now I'm a challenge, except I can prove it to the mother fucker. And I'm doing really good. And mostly because John said he doesn't think I can keep one alive. So I'm like, now I'm a challenge, except I'm gonna prove it to the mother fucker. And I'm doing good. Her name is Lisa Vanderpump and she's thriving. I also have one named Rupert Giles. He is also thriving. So, fingers crossed. But then, what's the other one?

I don't, the other one, I haven't named yet because he came to me a little worse for wear. So I'm gonna, He though, okay. They feel like he, Billy Lumis. Yeah. He goes Billy Lumis for wear. He came to us a little worse for wear. You know?

Yeah. But back to Micah, he was moderately good, like I said. He was all right. Me too. And he was said to be someone who helped people. He was social. He gave people food and stuff from his farm. A good dude.

Someone you want to have to round. Hmm. That's the story you hear. But then the other story, oh there's two, is a bunch of people who say he was weird, strange, and mean. So either history has failed us here with a shitty game of telephone, or he just pissed off some people

and they're loudly telling everybody about it. I was gonna say, which, yeah, I feel like that might be it. Maybe it just depends who you ask. Like, you can't please everyone. No, you can't. I mean, if you asked like, about me, you'd get a lot of different viewpoints. I'm gonna say, she's grunt.

She's grunt, but like, I'm sure Micah is like dealing with the same fate. I mean, at one point Micah, you know, he does something that like, you really can't argue with, saying he's kind of a shitty person, but like we'll get there. Okay. So one thing that was not disputed by anyone was the fact that he may not have been the best all around farmer or all around human, but he had the greatest and most beautiful and thriving driving Apple orchard in the galaxy the galaxy the galaxy this one. Yep, and the next and then I we don't know about that No, we know we know there is not more thriving apples on another guy like they just just not possible I'm not putting my money on that his apples were juicy. They were beautiful. They were fucking huge

They were beautiful, they were fucking huge. They were all in a neat line, all the trees, and they had white blossoms, and every fall, they would all pop out, and he would sell them all. They would pop off. They would just pop off, and everybody would just like, lug them away, because they were so giant and amazing. I love it. And one night in December, on his farm,

so everything's going great for Micah. He's just selling these apples. He's like, I'm in not be great at this other farming, but you better believe I can give you an apple. So one night in December, a salesman came through the area. And he was like those kind of salesmen, like the one in Sabrina, the teenage witch. I can always bring it back there.

Always. When that salesman comes through the linen closet portal in sell Sabrina tomorrow ball Ball against trance wishes. That one. He, it's just like that. He had everything. And he was a Mara Balls. He had tomorrow balls.

And he was a regular in that area. So he had told the, he had told, sold the ton that week and he had a lot of cash on him. So in those days, this was risky business. Yeah. You just listened to our episode with Red Handed about the, about Levinia Fisher, you know that being a highway man or a highway woman was like an actual thing back then. And any salesperson or merchant that was walking around with tons of cash was just like

a giant bull's eye on their head. I mean, it's risky, risky business. So the risk of being robbed or worse was really high, but he was known there. So he felt safe, you didn't know before. He somehow that night ended up like in or near Rudes farm and no one is really sure how, but he ended up going inside the house.

Okay. I don't, he must have been invited, something happened. He liked apples, he wanted to get some, but then he went missing. Yeah. No one knew where he went. He never returned home. Search parties went out.

And then there was a tip that came in saying they, that somebody had seen him in the rude farm area. They searched the property. The salesman was found. They found him. I can tell by the look at your eye, the fat man was. They found him.

He was buried under an apple tree with his head shattered open and all of his money gone. Okay, that's not quite what I was expecting, but damn. Yeah. Of course, it's a very 1700s investigation followed. So everybody was invited to the crime scene by hand. Yeah, and everything was totally fine, very up to standards. Oh, man.

Michael was definitely the prime suspect since it was his farm and he was the only one there. That makes sense. But he denied, denied, denied. And they couldn't really gather any more physical evidence other than the body being found under a tree on his property. So they had to let it go for the time being. Oh my God. So even though this guy was found buried under an apple tree with his head smashed open.

Yeah, and all his money gone. There was really nothing that could tie it directly to Micah. The apples. That's it. It was really nothing. So he was just kind of, that's the apple. It was like the apple. So he was just kind of like, oh, in spring came, his trees thrived again. Wow.

But one tree came back completely different this time around. It was the tree of the body of the salesman was found under and it came back with bright red blossoms. And remember, I said he would get these bright white blossoms. Yeah. As if that wasn't strange enough, once harvest time came at the end of the summer,

huge yellow apples grew. And when they were cut open, they contained a red circle in the center that looked like a stain of blood. Do not eat those apples. All the apples on that one tree had this and no others in the orchard did. That's strange. Like a totally different kind those apples. All the apples on that one tree had this, and no others in the orchard did. That's strange.

Like a totally different kind of apples. And after this, so he found this, and he knew. So after this, he started to lose it. He was stuck in the heart. It is. It's very much like that. So everybody said, his demeanor completely switched out of nowhere. He was depressed. He withdrew from everyone. He never came into town, and people in there his farm said he would just scream late into the

night alone and pace around and around all evening. I want to start doing that just to see what people do. Just to see if people are like, she just screams at night alone. Maybe that would be a cool legacy. Yeah, I think it would. But he wouldn't eat or tend to his farm and everything just completely died. He let everything go. But that luxury, everything except that red apple tree.

Oh my God. Every season it came back even though he didn't tend to it. Bitch. There is a story in Legends lore and secrets of New England by Thomas Diagostino in Arlene Nicholson. And it says he told a few towns people that he was being haunted by a ghost. And he said that it attacked him any time he tried to work on his farm.

Ooh. So people think it was the ghost of the salesman back for revenge. And it also says there's a story of one season, a young boy stealing apples from that red tree. And when Micah caught him, he told him to take the entire tree of apples because he was so frightened of it. And he wanted them gone. He was like, just take them all.

Wow. And the boy was like, no, no, no, no, I was just like, I'm sorry, I stole one. He was like, no, I want you to take all of them. I don't want them. And terrified that boy just ran away at the end of his life, the town's people believed he had either been falsely accused of murdering the salesman, which that is a possibility. And that the body had been placed under the tree by someone, you know, the killer to frame him or that he had done it and lived a life of guilt being haunted. What do you think? I don't know, because it sounds like Michael wasn't a bad guy. So it is a little strange that he would suddenly lash out.

Right. But I don't know. That tree was definitely the symbol of whatever had happened here. And the people of the town did come together when he became too frail to take care of himself in his old age. And they paid two shillings to volunteers to watch over him for two days at a time. So to me, it feels like the community kind of believed

he didn't do it and that he was falsely accused. I don't think they would be going through this trouble if they thought he just killed a salesman in cold blood. Yeah, they're not gonna worry to murder an apple tree anywhere near him. Yeah, so there's, I mean, to me, I'm like, that's some good community right there. Yeah.

Especially since there is a possibility he was a brutal murderer. Totally. Like, I would love to believe he isn't. I don't kind of believe he's not. And he ended up dying in December of 1728, looking over that red apple tree. You sitting in his chair, looking out over it.

That's so sad. What's crazier is that tree stood and thrived until 1938. What? And it was blown over by a hurricane. That's how it was finally gone. But before it was still up 1930s. And people were still eating the apples.

Yeah. And people took pieces of the branches and tried to replicate the apples, but they never could. And there are some legends that say there are traces of red in some of these strains, though, and especially in the Franklin, Connecticut area. That's so interesting. And they would call them like Mike's apples or Mike's apples.

I want to go apple picking next year, in this area and find one of those apples. Until I find one of those apples. And there is a movie on Prime right now. I don't know if you can still get it on Prime, but I saw that it was on there called The Curse of Micah Rude. It's from 2014 and it's about this whole story. Oh shit.

Yeah. So there is a curse in the apples. If you find the apple, I don't know exactly what happens to you that you can't say. I think it was more Micah's curse than anybody else's. But I don't know. I want to believe, I both want to believe that you can't say. I think it was more Micah's curse than anybody else's. But I don't know. I want to believe, I both want to believe that he was falsely accused,

and I don't want to because I feel bad. Agreed. You know, like it's like that would suck if his whole life was him being like not a murderer. Would you treat it like one thing? I feel like the thing would be, did he come into like a lot of new things after that salesman was killed, like did he spend the money? lot of new things after that salesman was killed?

Did he spend the money? That's the thing. You know? That's the reason. Right. Or did he just kill this guy? But all his money was gone. I know.

So that seems to be the motive. Yeah, I don't know. It's very strange. It makes a lot more sense to be honest that some highway man or highway man found this guy on his way, robbed him, killed him, and then buried him under the tree thinking no one would find him. Yeah, that makes more sense to me too,

than Micah just randomly snapping and killing this one man who was well known in town, too. That's the other thing, and it's like if I know Micah, right, I don't think he did this. That's exactly how I feel. Despite him coming from a father that was like, whoa, he was executed as the first person for getting executed for incest charges.

Some people's parents are fucking terrible in their brain. Well, that's a thing, you know? It's like, you know, and they're great. You know what I mean? So I mean, I don't know. That's the curse of micro-rude in the apples. I thought it was an interesting one. It's a nice new Englandy one, which is always fun.

It's always fun. But the next one I'm going to talk about because I want to watch this movie, essentially, is The Omen. You know I've never seen it. You should watch a great movie. It's a really, really great horror film. What year did it come out in 1976?

OK, never mind. Yeah. There was like a remake. A key album. I out in 1976? Okay, never mind. So I think there was like a remake. Yeah, it was remakes for sure. Yeah, one of the remakes came out when I was little. And I remember being fucking terrified of the preview and like crying about it. I saw that remake. I think with my ex boyfriend in the theater terrible. Yeah, was it good? It was good. But at the original one that was. The movie was all yet. Um, religious, scary movies to me are the scariest.

And you always say that too. Yeah, I feel like that whenever you bring religion into a horror movie, it just brings an element of uncomfortability to it, no matter what. And uncomfortability in the best way for me. Like I love it because it scares me on a whole different level. That's, it's so funny because I agree with the latter part

of that, it scares me on a whole different level, but to a level that I don't wanna be scared on. Oh yeah, you see, you don't like it. I love it. And it's weird because I'm not, like, I mean, we all know, like, neither of us are very religious at all. That was gonna say very... But it still scares me. That's weird, because I'm not, I mean, we all know, like neither of us are very religious at all.

I was gonna say very, but it still scares me. Yeah, it scares me because, like, usually when they use it in a horror movie, it's used in a really fucked up way. It's just the idea, everything that they'll do, like the scene in Hellraiser, when he's in the church. I love that scene. And he does the fake stigmata kind of thing. Yeah.

One of, I love that scene because it is so uncomfortable. It's like such a wildly, I don't know what it is about it. I don't know. I think maybe it's because I feel the same as like paranormal movies. Like it's just like, it's unknown to me. And I don't want to fuck with it. And it's very like, there's a lot to it.

It's a thing. Yeah. Yeah. Because like I don't care what you practice religious wise. I don't give a shit as long as you're not hurting anybody. You literally would just get the same thing. That's how I feel like so that this is to be like, you know, a knock on religion. No, I don't. I literally don't give a shit.

But it's because I'm not religious, I think it does make me uncomfortable and like, I'm scary way. Yeah. And I watch it. I don't know what it is. It just freaks me the fuck out. Also, did anyone see Ghost release an EP?

Of course I did, because I essentially live with you. And it was so good. The whole story that you were telling me, like, behind the video that they released. Yeah, it was like cool Yeah, they did go watch the video because it's it's wild ghost fans, but it's a yeah ghost fans go watch the video like everyone else Don't but I'm just kidding But they did a cover of Genesis like Phil Collins of Genesis Jesus. He knows me It's a great cover and I think they have like a whole EP of covers coming out in May, I want to say. Covis.

Covis. But it goes with the video and they released it on Easter. And it was just like a really good cover in the videos, like really wild. I love that. So it was a nice little Easter treat. And it kind of goes along with all this religious talk. So there we are. So the almond.

Let's talk about it. Because it definitely has some like, you know, Satan and all that and the anti. So there we are. So the Omen. Let's talk about it. Because it definitely has some like, you know, Satan and all that and the Antichrist things in it. It was like I said, came out in 1976. It's directed by Richard Donner and it was written by David Selzer. So it's her. The Omen is pretty fucked

and is a classically terrifying and disturbing horror. Like it's one of those masterpieces of horror, just the way it is done, in my opinion, I'll say. But it starts out with a guy named Robert Thorn, who's played by Gregory Peck, and his wife, Catherine Thorn, played by Lee Remyk. They're in Rome and about to give birth to a little boy when things go horribly wrong,

and the baby is actually born deceased. Oh, so obviously Robert is distraught and he has to be the one to tell his wife this. She doesn't know. But before he can do that, the hospital chaplain comes in and it's like, hey, a baby has just been born a few doors down and the mother died during childbirth.

He's like, I'll take it. You should just take this baby and just tell your wife it's yours. Easy peasy. Like nothing can go wrong with this. I think this will be fine. That's why this all went wrong. That's far away.

That's called kidnapping and it's a crime. And I love it because Robert's like, that sounds great. What luck. Like he's just like, all right, let's go. Men. And he does, and they name this boy Damien and Jesus. They don't name him Jesus.

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Damian, we find out, is the actual Antichrist. Oops. For some reason the term antichrist to me is hilarious. Well I think of it in Donnie Darko when he's like, I think you're the fucking Antichrist. Same. So I have two thoughts we're going down a path here. I think in Donnie Darko the that whole scene which makes me lull. And then I also think of the anti-fares from fairly odd parents, which you won't understand

by other people will. Yeah. And then like now that you think of that, you're like, oh wow, like they were definitely inspired by the anti-crisis. So that's hilarious. Oh shit. And it's just like a wild term,

the anti-crisis. The anti-crisis. Like, okay. And it's like that Damien is just, is the anti-crisis. It's like, okay. Yeah. What does that mean? Well, I don't understand. Or Patrick Swayze. Yeah. And apparently they tell you what it means because like they're like, oh no, Damien is the Antichrist. Like, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops, oops,

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right now. Oh, right now. I'm not not gonna give spoilers right now. I'm not gonna give spoilers right now, but watch the movie. You'll get the answer. And it's wild. You wanna watch it together? Yeah, I think we should watch it. Because who boy?

Oh no. He's all I'm gonna say. But yeah, so he's the Antichrist, Sun Satan, whoopsie poopsy. No, he's wrong kid. But then Catherine becomes pregnant again. Yeah. And the priest ups the bad shit level when this happens

and says, oh yeah, since Damian is the son of Satan, he's gonna be hell-bent. Pun intended. Unmurdering that unborn fetus and both of you. So you gotta kill him, but all like 100% look the other way. Like this priest is like, don't fucking worry. I feel like can you kill him for me?

And Father Brandon's like, no, I cannot, but I will absolutely not report you to a Thor Tase. Oh my God. So shit goes down, again, I won't spoil it in case you haven't seen it. It was from 1976, so you have had the time to see it. Full any of the time. I would be very justified in spoiling,

but I love you all so much that I won't do it to you. Okay. Watch it. It's nuts. So many more twisties, but we're not here just to talk about the movie plot. We're here to talk about curses on the Cess. So let's go. So obviously, it involves a lot of really dark shit,

this movie plot, all of that. You know, very like historically dark shit. Yeah. Satan, demons, murder, anti-Christ, dark religious topics, and all the like. So right away, everyone making this film was like a little weary that they may be messing with some forces that like could potentially be dangerous.

So that's the thing. Like I would feel that way a bit. I wouldn't. No, I know you wouldn't. Yeah. I wouldn't feel that way. I know you wouldn't. No, I know you wouldn't. But I know you wouldn't. Yeah, but it's weird because I don't believe wholeheartedly in any of them. Yeah. But like a little piece of me would be like, I'm not, my whole goal in life

is to not fuck around to find out. You know, I think that's a very smart way of going about life. I'd like to find out certain things, but I'm not gonna fuck around to find them out. Honestly, I'm smart. Thanks. Very smart.

I'm fully on board with that way of thinking. Too many inexplicable things can happen in the world, and I'm not trying to figure it out like that. I mean, there's a lot going on. There is. But it a lot did go on really during this. So an advertising exec and an evangelical Christian named Robert Munger was the one who helped birth the idea

of this child, Antichrist. He had said to producer Harvey Bernhardt that he believed the Antichrist was walking around in the form of a child because that would be the thing no one would expect. He really believed that to be true. He believed that to be true. I believe that to be true.

I beg to differ this as do all parents, I'm sure, because no one's to expect a child to be the antichrist. I think everyone's going to expect that. Who are you? Yeah. Who are you? Yeah. So I get it, but whatever. So this idea, you know, this idea is obviously pretty fucking terrifying. Like at its core. And it's also pretty brilliant as like in a horse. terrifying, like at its core. And it's also pretty brilliant as like in a horror sense. And then to have a child walking around as the Antichrist. So they started working with it.

They're like, what an idea. Some religious ideas in the film were created and not taken directly from the Bible, like the idea that the Antichrist is the son of Satan himself. I don't know what he actually is, but that wasn't, I guess that's not what the Bible says. Okay.

David Seltzer created that idea for the movie, but it really does work really well. That's the son of Satan. That's way scarier to people. You hear the son of Satan. It's like, you're, that works. Like you know what you're coming with here. So yeah, they made up a lot of that stuff, but people think that it's that. It's these kind of changes that angered something dark. Like the real antichrist was like,

that's not my authorized bio. Like why are you doing that? It's pretty heinous lies. But then I, here's my thinking. I'm like, well, why would the antichrist give a shit? First of all, that you're not going by the Bible. Yeah, I don't think the antichrist would care about'm bothering. So I'm so like, what are the dark forces that are mad that you're not going by the Bible? Like that gets a little that gets a little hairy.

That's gets a little hairy scary. No comment. Yeah. I'm like that's I don't know. I feel like another side would be angrier that you're not going by the Bible. But again, I don't know. I don't know if there's pieces of the Bible that would turn that again, I don't know. I don't know if there's pieces of the Bible that would turn that on its head, you know? I don't know much about the Bible. No? No. But before he even got the film started or greenlit,

he pitched it by telling producer Harvey Bernhard that he believed the devil didn't want them to make the film, which seems like a pretty bold pitch to me. We were like the guy who made this whole idea, said the devil doesn't want to do this. Yeah, like he was like, I'm pretty sure that devil doesn't want us to make this film. The devil doesn't want screen time?

Which I don't, and I'm not saying it's a bad pitch because I don't believe that's a bad pitch. I think it's a bold pitch. That's one of those like risky, I gotta hit the right person with this pitch because you're being like, hey, I'm pretty sure that the devil himself does not want us to make this film.

It's like you're gonna get some person that's like, oh, Femle shouldn't. And you're gonna get somebody else who's gonna go, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da gonna do like devil horns together and rock out. So I think I would be the former and you would be the latter. I was just pulling the electric guitar literally like covering above the land. But yeah he got someone to be that did the darenna in here. More time. They do that on the last podcast on the left like whatever. Yeah whatever they'll say something like super metal they're always like. Shout out. Shout out to Les Paul Castles on the left. like, whatever, yeah, whatever they'll say something like super metal. They're always like, shout out, shout out to Les Paul Castles on the left.

One of the first podcasts I ever listened to. Yeah, remember one of them? Oh, yeah, that was great. I got Vertigo. You guys are funny, but it was great. But later in interviews, they both repeat this idea. Like, they tell this story and that this was a true story that he pitched it that way that they were like, yes.

And Munger is quoted as saying, I said, if you make this movie, you're gonna have some problems. If the devil's greatest single weapon is to be invisible, and you're gonna do something which is going to take away his invisibility to millions of people, he's not going to want that to happen.

So the devil is invisible, I guess. That's not a good way. So Bernhard recalled, the devil was at work and he didn't want that film made. So here's where I sit. Again, I'm gonna keep telling you where I sit from here. Please do. Imagine the devil, like if that is an actual thing,

which like, I don't know. But imagine him, what the icon, iconique that we think he is, like that, whatever we see him as, the horse demon, and all that. Imagine him being so mad about a Hollywood horror movie. See, so here's where I'm at. I picture the devil, like the one in Sabrina, but like the new Sabrina.

Did you get to that season where like sure did. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's with me right now, because Mikey just fined himself that man made me question so many things about my identity Anyways, yeah, I pictured cat devil and I forgot where I was going cuz I was just Thinking about him to my story are we just picturing that devil We're doing here's where I was going with that. I picture that handsome man. Not handsome devil. And I would think that that devil would want the PR.

Thank you. That's kind of what I don't see him being pissed. No. Like that's just me. Because people are also going to be fucking terrified and isn't that the devil's whole thing is like terrifying people. That's the thing.

I'm like, I feel like that's kind of like his stick and oh my god, I'm looking at the devil now. Now also, I'm looking at the Sabrina's T-Dish, which one I have to refresh mama Marie. I'm looking at the devil. Just look at the devil right now. Yeah, if it's that one, he would definitely be down for it, but I don't, yeah, I don't tell for what.

I don't tell him for what. I don't tell him what you say. No, I don't, I don't know, but that one I think about it, I'm like, that's my interpretation. So there's a vast number of, and Mikey's bringing up pictures of the devil, of that devil, the one from Sabrina, and I'm just, it's getting so much fun in this room. I'm trying to look elsewhere. It's because I can't, but there's, they call him Daddy Satan. But yeah, you know, watch that show, by the way,

that's a great show. Also now, all I can do that show. I know what the fuck, all I can hear in my head right now is that Jack Black song where it's like, oh my god, the Tenacious D. Yes. Does that stand for devil, Tenacious Devil? was that Jack Black song where it's like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da- what his motivation is, what his personality is, this is just mine. You probably do have a different interpretation because we're all different here.

And that's okay. And maybe you're devil that you're thinking of. I mean, it doesn't have to be your devil, just the devil you think about doesn't want the PR. Maybe he doesn't want the PR. Maybe he doesn't want to be invisible. So I think my idea of is that he wouldn't give a shit about a haul you would horror film. I feel like that's a small potato. So I think my idea is that he wouldn't give a shit

about a haul you would horror film. I feel like that's a small potatoes to a Damon to the devil to him, but maybe your demon does. So I'm not here to stomp on your idea here, but that's just how I feel. We digress. So filming is about to begin in London, and the cast is heading on to set, and shit already is going really awry.

And this is the part where when you enter into this, you're like, okay, yeah, Chris, like the devil, when are you talking about, shut up. But then when you hear the shit that happened, you're like, what was going on there? Because it's a lot. So I've heard like some of the things

that I know are definitely not man-made accidents. Do you think any of these accidents were man-made to like add to the hype? Honestly, I know. I don't know if I can come up with one that is man-made. A lot of these are too big and too bad of everyone's hands. Okay. For them to happen, you'll see why. So Gregory Peck was on his way into London to begin filming, and the plane he was on

was struck by lightning. So that's not manmade. No. And now I looked into it, and according to scientific American, each airplane in the US commercial air fleet is struck by lightning at least once a year. Remember when it happened to Miley Cyrus? It did. Now usually these strikes are light and not really notice that much. Don't do a bunch of damage they used to, but they definitely don't anymore. It happens once a year to each plane on average, but December 8, 1963, a commercial airliner crashed as a direct result of being struck by lightning. Well, that's terrifying. That was in 63, remember before they put in a bunch of different shit, which I will

talk about. That has made that so it won't happen again, usually. But it was Pan-American World Airways Flight 214, and it was a Boeing 707. The flight was going from San Juan, Puerto Rico, to Baltimore, Maryland, and then it was taking off from Maryland and going to Philadelphia. So the plane took off from Puerto Rico, got to Baltimore. Then as it was going from Baltimore to Philadelphia, the plane exploded and went down with 73 passengers

and eight crew members on board. Oh my God. And the last words they heard over the black box was May Day, May Day, May Day, Clipper 214 out of control. Here we go. Ooh. Isn't that like the most chilling? Here we go. What the fuck would here we go?

What the fuck would you say that? Now everyone on board perished. This was directly due to lightning strikes and it ignited the fuel tank, and that's why it exploded. After this though, so don't worry, after this planes were ordered to install lightning discharge wicks or static dischargers

on all planes in the US. This basically what these are are there on the wings and they allow the excess electrons of built up static energy to have a pathway back into the atmosphere so they don't build up and say ignite a plane's fuel tank, like they get shot out into the atmosphere. So it's like a way to like ground it

and send it somewhere else kind of thing. And they work. Like they've tested them out. They work. That's how it works. Thank you for that. Yeah. So just wanted to like detour on that because, whoa.

Scary. So shortly after this, within days, writer David Seltzer's plane also was hit by lightning. He said it was the roughest five minutes I've ever had on an airliner. I am self-flagulating my fear of flying, but this is usually art. This is all in the name of content for you because I love you. Wow. If you've ever doubted it. What if you were trafficked into a cult over shot nine times or fell in love with a vampire or went into a minor surgery and woke up one week later paralyzed. What would you do? I'm Whit Missaldine, the creator of this is actually happening, a podcast from Wondry

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add free on the Amazon Music or Wonder app. Right after this producer Mace Newfield, Newfile, I think it is, Newfield. What a cool name. Also in the plane headed to production, and his plane was struck by lightning. What? Come on. That's insane. Three planes were struck by lightning, and you said it only happens to have a plane

for a year. It happened once on average a year. No. So Harvey Bernhardt was almost struck by lightning while standing on the ground, while filming on location and Rome once production began. Too much lightning. Yeah, and it was literally right next to him.

See, that's why these are a little weird. Like, how do you not think like something had to have been at work here? Something, yeah. Right, like, don't you believe that? That's like smiting. But like, I smite you with these things. Like, you believe that something was at work, right?

Something weird is happening here. I don't know what. I can't put my little finger on it. But you know, something is wrong here. I believe a lot of energy. There you go. So it's bad energy. I mean, that's what it is.

You're talking about like a whole last kid being born. That's a whole last kid. It's like, I'm gonna kill the mom. I'm gonna kill the mom. I'm gonna kill my mom. I'm gonna kill my mom. I'm gonna kill my dad. That's him. That's literally him.

That's me in. So, dad and I have a juice box, but yeah. And you know, it did have some bad energy going into production because they were immediately setting this up as like the devil doesn't want this. So, they were setting the bad energy from the start. Yeah, not manifesting properly. Now Harvey Bernhard was so stressed that he began wearing a crucifix on set. I might also do the same. I would not. But he said he's like upside down, but he said, quote, I wasn't about to take any chances, which I get. The devil wasn't work and he

didn't want that film made. We were dealing in areas we didn't know about. And later on in the picture, it got worse, worse, and worse. Oh my God. So like I get it, you know, like, you're not going to take any chances. You might as well throw a crucifix around your neck. It's crazy that this movie like happens completely. No.

There was a private plane that was rented for production because they were using it for like overhead scene. Sure. And during production, like during filming, somebody else rented this plane. Like they charted it while they weren't using it. Upon takeoff, the engine was hit by a flock of birds, cause the engines to fail and the plane crashed onto the end of the runway, skid it into the road and hit a car.

Oh my God. Everyone on board and in the car was killed. Yeah. This is true. This much is true, but in some sources, and I don't know if this is true, I can't verify this. It's just in some sources.

They say the car was carrying the pilots, wife and two children. I really hope not. That's way too over the top. They do cite it in some sources, but I found, I wanna be clear, I found nothing to verify this. Okay, yes, sometimes. But you will read that in some sources,

and that's why I wanna let you know, like I couldn't find something to verify it if you can, then that's even worse, but. And if you can, I'm like, you know, like it's already bad enough that everybody on board died and everyone in the car died. You don't need to make it worse. Thank you, because I'm literally like, you don, like it's already bad enough that everybody on board died and everyone in the car died You don't need to make it worse. Thank you because I'm literally like you don't need to make that like I already are in more Traumatizing like people die. Yeah, like I I'm already upset. Yeah, I'm upset that so that happened

Apparently, I think it was a peck who was supposed to be renting one of the planes to and It might have been that actual plane and he ended up not renting it that they're using one of the planes to, and it might have been that actual plane, and he ended up not renting it that day, or using it that day to do something, and it crashed. Wow. And he was supposed to be on it. There was also an animal trainer who was on set, because there's a scene with wrought wilders, where Peck's character is chased and attacked in a cemetery by really angry vicious

dogs. Oh. Hellhounds, if you will. But the dogs, the wrought wilders, attacked the stuntman for real, and they wouldn't stop. And they bit through the paddings and ignored the handlers and the animal trainer. And I guess the stuntman ended up being okay,

but he suffered actual injuries from it. Wow. And it was very unlike these dogs to not listen to the handlers and the trainer. Yeah. Were they okay? They were okay. Okay, good. So, Richard Donner was leaving Harvey Bernhard's office.

Something else happens to the animal trainer, by the way. We'll get to it. But he was leaving Bernhard's office after a meeting and he was hit by a car. Oh my God. He was okay, but like what the fuck? He was actually hit by a car. Do you know how long this production was? Like how long it took? No, I don't know exactly how long it took, but like what the fuck? He was hit by a car. How, do you know how long this production was? Like how long it took?

No, I don't know exactly how long it took, but it happened quickly. I'm not trying to find out because I'm like, all of these things are happening. Like was this a couple of months? Exactly. An executive producer, Mace there, was staying at the London Hilton with his wife while filming.

And it was bombed by the IRA. What? And on November 12th, they were all there and executive producers, directors, actors, all of them were having some kind of dinner at some restaurant. And that restaurant was bombed by the IRA minutes before they arrived.

Oh my God, this is over in 11 week period. I was gonna say it was quick. 11 weeks. All crammed into this period. Oh my God. And now there's a scene speaking of the animal trainer. There's a scene in the movie where they go to a zoo. And Damien's presence, just his presence there,

makes all the animals go crazy. They're all screaming, they're flipping out. Oh, that stresses me out. It's a really haunting and very scary scene. Yeah, it's really good. And they come across a group of baboons. And the baboons freak the fuck out when they see Damian. And he's just smiling at them.

It's so scary. And so the baboons attack the car they're in, that they're driving through. And according to Richard Donner, Lee Remick, who played the mom, was legitimately terrified while filming this sequence. So her screams and the fear you see are very real and they're what's in the final shot of the film. So they use that

animal trainer for these shots as well and everything was fine. But the next day that animal trainer was killed by tigers. What the fuck? Bernhard later said he was killed the day after we shot there. He was killed by a tiger. He grabbed him by the head and killed him instantly. Oh my God. Like what the fuck? And too many freak asses. And what's even worse is it didn't end after filming.

So special effects supervisor John Richardson was responsible for a really infamous scene. It's a decapitation scene in the movie. The man, this man is like really brutally beheaded by a sheet of glass sliding off the back of a truck. It's very final destination-esque. Yeah. It's really brutal.

Well, John Richardson was in Holland with his girlfriend Liz Moore on August 13th, 1976. They were filming Richard Attenborough's, a bridge too far in their car crash. He survived, very injured, but she was decapitated. Stop. Now, really quickly, just because I looked into Liz, the girlfriend, the victim here,

she was a really talented and really respected painter and sculptor. She designed and sculpted starchild in Stanley Kubrick's 2001 space Odyssey. Oh wow. The nude furniture in a clockwork orange. The C3PO suit in Star Wars. Oh my god. And worked with another artist named Brian Mwear. Mwear I think it is sorry to create the finalized version of the Storm Trooper helmets. Holy shit. She was only 32 years old when she was killed. Wow.

Imagine what she did. She did all that shit. Yeah she was killed. Wow, imagine. She did what she could have gone on to do. And killed by decapitation. That's terrifying. Now, allegedly, according to reports, he said he escaped from the vehicle and he saw a signpost they were in Holland pointing to the nearest town.

And it was of the town's name was Omen. And it was O-M-M-E-N. Stuh. And according to him, the kilometer marker where this was was 66.6. I don't know what to say to that. Another crew member, a stunt person named Alf Joint, also went from working on stunts and working on the Omen.

He went to the Richard Attenborough's, a bridge too far too. So they both went over to that. He had an accident almost immediately as well. He was supposed to be filmed jumping off a roof and he would land on some kind of like airbag, obviously. He fell from the roof really strangely according to all witnesses and somehow missed the airbag. He ended up critical in the hospital. Luckily, he did recover, but when he woke up, he said, he would, everyone said he was absolutely adamant. He said, I was pushed

off that roof. Oh, I just got all the mother fucking chills. And the way he fell, everyone was like, that was not a stunt manfall. Like, that wasn't a stunt manfall. He was awkward. It was like like he wasn't ready for it. But he was like, someone had pushed him and he wasn't ready to do an actual fall. Like a safe fall. Oh no. They said he was like super awkward and strange how he fell.

And he was like, I was 100% pushed, I felt it. And he was like, that's where I looked at him. Yeah. Fuck that. No one. Fuck that. And to end it all out, the kid who played Damon, Harvey Stevens, he disappeared for years after.

He's a terrifying-looking child. And the crew of the documentary about this curse had to hire a private detective to search him down because they thought he was dead or missing. What? Then when they talk to him, he won't speak about the curse. Literally will not say a word. You can't get him to open up about it.

What? Yeah. Which I'm like, is that like, what is that? Is that could that be that you are like, playing into it? Cause like, good on you. I would play the fucking to that if I could be like, damn.

I would not play into that. Like that's why it's so like, no. Cause look, we're talking about it. Well, yeah, but have people be like, damn. I would not play into that. Like that's why it's so like, no. Cause look, we're talking about it. Well, yeah, but have people being like, what is going on? Oh, fuck, dude. I, that's why I say a lot of that, those are not like man-made things.

They're like, no bones. None of the IRA, they're like planes crashing, they're lightening hitting planes, there's people getting in like weird, strange accidents. Like, yeah, sure, there are coincidences, but not that many. And that's the thing, a lot of the people involved in this production were like, yeah, in the beginning,

when you like hear about it, you're like, sure. Yeah, okay, like you can kind of explain away some things, but they're like, as it goes, you just stop being able to explain. Like, how can you have that much bad luck? I'm not well, bitch. I am not well well bitch, but I think it's an interesting, I love a cursed movie set. Actually, um, shutter for a while had like a whole series of cursed movies. There's a lot of them, there's like Rosemary's baby, there's Poltergeist, there's the exorcist. Exorcist, and again, a lot of

them are like religion or like, you know, certain based kind of thing. But I think it's one of those things. I don't know. Maybe it may be, I mean, religion is one of the oldest things in the world. You know, like so it's like maybe it's just messing with energy. And maybe it doesn't even necessarily have to do with like, you know, the, the deal. And stuff like that.

It's like this, you're messing with something ancient that you don't understand. An ancient force. That none of us understand. Maybe, you know, like maybe it's something to do with that. I don't know who I'm like, I feel like I'm going to be very creeped out the next couple of days. Whenever I talk, yeah, I know me too, because I love that feeling. But like I also hate it at the same time. Yeah. All the end of my hallway is going to freak me out. Lately, I've been freaked out by the end of my hallway. Ooh, yeah. You might wanna like, clear that. Yeah, clear that out.

Yeah, it's my spare bedroom too. So, yeah, clear that out. Yeah, definitely. You don't want that being fun. I think it's just because, honestly, there's a lot of laundry in there. Then that's bad energy. You're like, I just don't wanna fold it.

So, that's the bad energy. No, it's why I'm freaked out. It's dirty laundry. That's a couple of hammers full of laundry that I need to get done. So, maybe that's it. That No, it's why I'm freaking out. It's dirty laundry. Like a couple of hamper's full of laundry. Yeah. I need to get done. So maybe that's it. That would freak me out too.

Tell you I got it. Fucking hate laundry. Yeah. That's like, that's wild. It's bad vibes. That's bad vibes. It's true. That's stinky vibes.

It's bad stinky vibes. Oh man. It's creepy. We love a haunted movie. And these are, and there was a lot of, there's a lot of actual death involved here. So it's true crime. It's got the true crime you element.

We should make this a series. And like if you guys know of any cursed movies, if that you want us to look into, like cursed movies, cursed TV shows, cursed Broadway shows, cursed productions, cursed productions. I like it. Because that might be kind of fun to look into.

Totally. I love a good curse. Every be kind of fun to look into. Totally. I love a good curse. Everyone's in a while we need a little, I don't want to be cursed, but I also like to look into a curse. But they are very interesting. Let me speak clearly with a touch. Give the universe the right word. Yeah.

But yeah. And go listen to Ghosts new, you know, cover single. It's great. I heard it. You're going to hear it a lot. So what? So there you go. But yeah, I hope everybody had a good weekend

and watched the Omen. And we hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it weird. But that's a weird that you're the Antichrist or maybe do keep it that weird, just up to your preference. Yeah, whatever you wanna do, man. Keep it that weird. Keep up to your preference. Yeah, whatever you wanna do, man. Keep it, keep it that weird.

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