Morbid - Episode 477: The Murder of Teresita Basa

Episode Date: July 17, 2023

On the evening of February 21, 1977, Chicago firefighters responded to a call at the Pine Grove apartment complex. Once they’d extinguished the fire, they discovered the nude body of forty-eight-year-old Teresita Basa with a kitchen knife protruding from her chest. The apartment looked as though it had been ransacked during the commission of what they assumed was a sexual assault or robbery gone wrong. With little evidence or leads to work from, Teresita’s murder investigation quickly went cold.But then five months later, it seemed like it was Teresita herself who led investigators to discover the man who murdered her. What followed was a truly sensational investigation and trial where not only murder, but belief was up for debate.ReferencesBoston Globe. 1978. "Did Voice of the Dead Name Murderer?" Boston Globe, March 6: 2.Decatur Herald. 1979. "Man Pleads Guilty; Named by 'Voice From the Grave'." Decatur Herald, February 23: 9.O'Brien , John, and Edward Baumann. 1978. "Accused of Murder By a Voice From The Grave." Ebony, June 01: 56-63.O'Brien, John. 1979. "'Voice From Grave' Case a Mistrial." Chicago Tribune, Janaury 27: 3.O'Brien, John, and Edward Baumann. 1992. Teresita: The Voice from the Grave. Los Angeles, CA: Bonus Books.Toledo Blade. 1978. "'Voice From Grave' Suspect Ordered to Trial for Murder." Toledo Blade, September 7: 38.Warden, Rob. 1978. "'Voice From the Grave' Evokes a Murder Trial." Washington Post, September 17.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening to a Morbid Network podcast. Hey, we're Dosedouz, I'm Ash, and I'm Elena. And this, right here, what you're listening to and your fucking ear meat is... Morbid. I'm unhinged. I'm unhinged. I'm not a physical physical fucked up. I'm just physical physical. She's on a space level. But I'm not Fisid-y Fisid-y fucked up. I'm just Fisid-y Fisid-y fucked up on life. On life, on happiness. On vibes.

On vibes. Honestly, on hydration. Yeah. Vienna, Lena. Alina and I are drinking a lot of water. Yeah, we're trying to hydrate more. We're manifesting our health and wellness. Yeah, we drink a lot of coffee, so we gotta balance it out.

Yeah, I know. I didn't even fucking finish my coffee today. Whoa, I didn't either. And I ate a salad. That was scary. I know. I don't know what to say about that. It was good.

I mean, I put a lot of dressing on it so it really wasn't even as solid anymore, but. But you know what, well-dressed. Still got the nutrients in there. Eight the greens, whether they were soaked in Parmesan peppercorn or not. That's the thing. If you want to eat a salad, eat a fucker.

But you want a lot of dressing. I see a lot of gruelies on TikTok being like, no, don't put the dress, I got it, because that will ruin the purpose of eating satin. No. No. No. No. Greens in your belly. Yeah, exactly. And no, we're not nutritionists.

And no, we're not any of those things. And I realize that some of you are, you, I don't think it's fine. Whatever you want. Everybody, what you want, you'll be fine. We're not given health advice. Don't worry. I'm not giving medical advice. I'm not giving nutritional advice.

No, no, no. I'm not a nutritional advice. I just like my salads with a shit ton of dressing on them. And I think if that makes you happy, you should do it too, my people. I am a life coach. I am that. I am that. I just wanted to make sure we are not

not given that. That's not a medical advice. That's just like happiness and my nutrition on your salad. It's great. But do it. You have to do it if you want to live long. It's Friday. It's Friday.

It's not when you're listening to this. I think it's probably fucking Monday. Oh, I do stay one day Thursday. You could. It'll be like me for five weeks in the future. If you told me I'm going to push you off a cliff if you don't answer that correctly, when this is coming out, I could not answer you. Can I tell you?

Oh, oh, whoa. Can I tell you why I thought of you the other day? Why? I saw, do you ever see those things on Instagram? And it's like, like, if you invite this person to a party in their late, you win like several million dollars. Who do you invite every single time? It's like, gun to your head and like,

you have to call this person and they can't answer. Or like anything like that. I'm like, oh, Elena. Yeah, me. Absolutely. You're like, yeah. Yeah. But honestly, I am the answer to that question too.

Both of those. You're the answer to the first question. And the second, I am the answer to that question too. Both of those. You're the answer to the first question. And the second, I don't, well, I feel like you're way better at answering. I don't think I would feel comfortable calling you if they can't answer. I feel like I don't know. She might answer. That's true. I'm like a toss up.

You'd be like, she will absolutely not answer. No way. She screens her mother fucking calls. When you do answer my phone call, it's jarring. Yeah, I think it's jarring for everybody involved. But I don't like phone calls, so. Yeah. But you're reliable in a weird way.

I appreciate that. You're okay. I didn't want anyone to think that I was like full-blown insulting you. That's cool. Yeah. That's what we do here. That's what we do, we just insult each other.

Fuck you. Fuck you. The worst. I hate you. Everybody's like, what the fuck is going on? It's like, you got so ready. Leave it all in. Yeah, leave it in.

This is the truth. Mention it all. Oh. Oh. Oh. What an intro. I know. What an intro.

What are you bringing to the table today? You know what it is. Sometimes I haven't even gotten to it. I don't care. I don't even get through it. I don't care. I don't care. But you know what it is? Sometimes I haven't even gotten to it yet. I don't even get there. I don't care. I don't care. I care. But you know what it is? We are, you know, we're ahead of ourselves here. So we're we're recording, recording, recording. We're claiming our power back. And we're feeling all like, woo, right now. I have a unicorn ponytail. She does. So we're feeling all like, woo, right now. I have a unicorn ponytail. She does. So we're feeling all

like, woo, right now. So we're feeling all like, woo, right now. I have a unicorn ponytail. She does. So we're feeling all like, woo, right now. I have a unicorn ponytail. She does. So we're feeling all like, we are are feeling all like, woo, right now. I have a unicorn ponytail. She does. So we're feeling all we are. We are this scariest thing about this. I'm not kidding. We are full blown. Oh, so buraza. Yes. As a judge. So buraza, you know, I mean, actually that's honestly, shoes are always so bad.

I was gonna say there's never a time where I have, can say I've seen or heard of a drunk shoe. You have, Mikey, have you heard of a drunk shoe? I hear shoe when you went to that room. Oh my God, that shoe. That's a drunk shoe. You have Mikey? Have you heard of a drunk shoe? I hear shoe when you went to that room. Oh my god, that shoe isn't drunk. She was just a bitch. Yeah, my shoe, my shoe is broke. She was, yeah, she was a broke bitch.

That's what my shoe was. You gotta send that shoe out by the way. Yeah, I do have to send that out by the way. I gotta get a cobbler to fix that shoe. Are there still cobblers? Hell yeah, there are cobblin. Every day a cobbler. Fix that tree. Are there still cobblers? Hell yeah, there are cobblin. Yeah. Everyday on cobblin.

Cobblin, cobblin, cobblin, cobblin. I can't fix my shoe. I need a cobbler for that. No, honestly, I was gonna say you could fix that shoe, but no one could fix that shoe. No, no one could we try to all over the place. It was like I was invented. I was gonna say I was like at an event where it would be

a bunch of like walk out on stage. Yeah, but it only had long pants on and I was like just walk out barefoot and then just don't cross your legs when we get out there. And if I do, I just be like, this is who I am. I know our shoes. But no, she walked out there with a broken heel. It's true. But going back to the point. Yeah, what was the way? I've never seen a Trump shoe. Shoes are always pretty sober. Yeah, but judges, I don't know, they're like them to be. And they should be. Of course, you know, way down the law.

But even when they go home, they're fallible. Yeah, and even when they go out to dinner or like to a birthday party, they're judged, but like still, they're not a part. And it's crazy, that birthday party. It's crazy. No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. You've ever been to a birthday party with a judge?

It's crazy. I have. Where are we? I don't know, but we're gonna find our way back. So, where we go from here. Where we go from here is a pretty wild tail. It's also, it's a sad tail because it involves like a really, really cool lady who lost her life in a terrible way,

but then she ends up solving her own murder. Oh shit. From beyond. Beyond, beyond, beyond, beyond. This is beyond. So, oh, okay, all right, let me get a little bit more. So now we're gonna settle in to this tale because this is a wild one.

And I think this is what Dave loved this one too. We were, this is just such a good, like in the end when it all comes together, you're like, hell yeah, cause she like solved her own shit. You know that song that's on TikTok right now, where it's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

yeah, it's exactly. It's gonna be like that at the end. That's what it is. It's happy in the end. Okay. I like that. Thank you for setting us up to know that. No problem. Just so you be like that at the end. That's what it is. It's happy in the end. Okay. I like that. Thank you for setting us up to know that. No problem.

Just so you can like, roll with me here because there's some really sad parts. I'll roll with you, hold on. But this is the case of Teracita Bassa, the voice from Beyond the Grave. Ooh. And again, like I said, this is a case where Ghost possibly pointed to her own murderer.

Shit. Now, let's talk about Teresita. Because Teresita lived a pretty cool life. She seemed like a really cool lady, very kind, like just somebody who he wanted to be around. Teresita Bassa was born on March 13, 1929, in Duma Get City, Philippines. And she was the only child of Pedro and Sacoro Bassa.

So Teresita, right off the bat, was a very passionate child. When she liked something she dove headfirst into it. And she took a lot of different interests, a lot of different likings to different things, like she was really well-rounded. But she really loved music, and she loved gardening, especially.

Oh. And her mother had this beautiful and lush garden in the back of their home, and she showed her everything she knew about taking care of it. And Teresita's family was actually one of the wealthier on the island at the time. Swanky. And this afforded the tools at her disposal

to learn the skills that she was interested in. She was able to dive into music. She was able to take time to learn gardening. And she wanted to learn piano at one point. I really want to learn how to play piano. I love the piano. Yeah. I want to dive back into the piano really bad.

Mm-hmm. So her family, of course, wanting to like nourish whatever it is she was interested in. They had imported a Steinway grand piano from Manila. And she would sit around this piano and just play for hours. And she would learn all the classical music, like she was amazing at it. And when she wasn't learning to play classical music on the piano, she would be sitting in front of their Victola with a pile of 78 records absorbing all the latest songs that had made their way to the Philippines. I love picturing this right now.

Right? It just, she sounds like a cool chick. She does. She really does. Right from the get-go, too. She was just like music, she was into shit. Yeah, she sounds just like a fun time. Yeah, just sitting there listening to records. And I'm sure it took a little while

for certain songs to get to the Philippines. So like she was discovering them on a whole different wavelength. Like I didn't think of that. Yeah, that's cool. That is cool. Now when the Japanese army invaded the Philippines in 1941, DumaGet was used as a critical strategic point. And at this time, her parents were kind of agonizing over whether they should leave altogether or it would in flee into the mountain regions to just avoid everything because many other people had done so.

And ultimately, Pedro, her father, was persuaded by those in authority to stay. Because the local government was like kind of on the verge of collapse and, quote, his council would be needed more than ever. So he was a very influential guy in the government. Okay, wow. And the invasion was profound influence on Teresita, who was a teenager at the time. She had grown up in she was very used to learning English in the classroom, but was now against her decision being learned forced to

learn Japanese in its place. Oh wow. And she was comfortable learning English. She was now thrown over to this other thing that she didn't choose. Right. And at the same time, this island paradise that she had enjoyed as a child where she knew everybody, it was like, they were in this nice little routine. And it was just easy, she knew everybody. It was like, they were in this nice little routine and you know, like it was just easy, easy living thing.

It was now dramatically transformed. And a lot of Filipinos were forced into service work for the soldiers. It was really bad. There was like a lot of bad stuff happening. So very drastically different from when she grown up. Right. She's a teenager.

That's so hard. That's such an important time in your life. Yeah, and for your home to be changed so dramatically like that. Yeah, and that's, I mean, everything is changing. Everything you, as a human, in part of it. Now everything around you was changing. I can't imagine how much you adapt to that. So by 1947, the island had more or less kind of returned to normal, luckily.

But for Terracita, it was a lot of like trauma and a lot of memories. There was a lot of violence there that had happened, a lot of oppression that had happened. And so, yeah, so she was like, it just wasn't the same. So she made the decision to move to Manila. And once there, she studied music at St. Scholar Rass, I'm going to try to say this, I'm sorry, at St. Scholastica's college. I feel like you did that right. And eventually she became a very accomplished pianist. And after her graduation, she ended up moving to London. Oh, bitch.

And continued her studies in music at the time at the Royal College of Music in London. Nice. Now, London was very different than where she had grown up. She had grown up in a tropical climate, a very tight-knit community. Sunlight. She was very used to all that,

and it was like a whole new world for Tarrisita London. But she loved it. She loved it. And whenever she could get away from schoolwork, she would love just exploring the city, and she loved all the outdoor concerts that would happen, and all the different things that she could go to the museums, all that fun stuff. That is fun.

So, after two years at the Royal College of Music, Terracita graduated with a certificate in piano forte. Ooh. Yeah. And she loved being in London. She loved her time away. She had a good time. She met some people.

She did some things. But she was missing her friends and family in her home, as we all do. So she had hoped her return back home just for a visit, but instead she actually was convinced by her friends to go on a tour of Europe with them. Oh shit. And she did. She ended up back in. Yeah, she ended up visiting Vienna, Salzburg, Paris, other places, like all kinds of cool places. That's a dream of mine. And it was in Paris that Terarracita met a rushing composer

by the name of Alexander Turepnen. Mm-hmm. I looked up how to say that. He definitely took a liking to Tarracita, but a liking in like a mentor way. Oh, okay. He was like, am I going to regret my past statement? No.

And he was very impressed by how dedicated she was to music, her skills, like just how varied she was in her musical talents. And he really believed that she could become a great composer if she continued her studies. Wow, what a fucking compliment. I know, right? So Cherepnan and his wife actually both taught

at DePaul University in Chicago. Oh. Funny that they met them in Paris. I know. And invited Teresita to visit them anytimePaul University in Chicago. Oh. Funny that they met them in Paris. I know. And invited Teresie to visit them anytime she was in Chicago. So it sounds like this was like a little trip. Yeah. So in the summer of 1957, she was 28 years old,

and she ended up flying from the Philippines to Honolulu, Hawaii. And from there, she traveled a pretty short distance relatively, I suppose, to Bloomington, Indiana. Yeah, it's only like a six hour flight. Yeah, there you go. Insider.

Insider. And there is where she enrolled in the Foreign Exchange Visitors program at Indiana University. During her time there, she made a lot of friends. She really did well academically. she had a good time, but she didn't end up finishing her credits completely. She was actually just a handful of credit chive, completing her graduate studies, and she ended up relocating to Washington, D.C. like out of nowhere. All right.

And I think she was just like, bebopping. You know, like she was just hitting everything. Bebop a loop of baby. So she relocated to Washington DC, and that's where she took a job as a typist with a family friend. This family friend was working in the government. Because remember, her parents are very influential,

like they are doing stuff in the Philippines. And so this was like a connection. Right. And so she could do this typing job while also continuing to study music at the Library of Congress. Oh, yeah. She is doing everything.

Teresita. Teresita. So, while she's working and studying in Washington DC, she attended a diplomatic reception with fancy. And there is where she met Edward Omira, who was a Chicago lobbyist, and he took an immediate liking to Teresita, but in the romantic sense.

And remember, she's like a grown adult at this point. Yeah, she's a co-eat. And soon after this first meeting, they started dating, and they started spending a ton of time together. And then unfortunately, just as the relationship was kind of like taking off,

her visa was set to expire. No. And she was required to return to the Philippines before she could apply for U.S. citizenship. Oh, God damn. So in 1965, she was 36 at this point, and she turned returned home to her parents. And Edward actually came to visit a ton.

He came to the Philippines at the business. But during his final trip to Duma Get, Pedro Bassa, her father, found something out about Edward, Edward Omira. Of course he did, he works in the government. Of course he did. He cannot get anything else, Pedro.

Pedro found out that Edward had been frequenting one of the city's brothels. Oh, Pedro. Pedro found out that Edward had been frequenting one of the city's brothels. Oh, bitch. And that ended Teresita and Edward's relationship mighty fast. Good. And Pedro was essentially like, I think it's time for you to leave. Bye.

And go home. Don't let the door say. Hey, you on the way out, we're actually maybe you should. Yeah. So Teresita was devastated by this. Because one, it's like she's been duped and then now she can also never see him again. Yeah, it's like not only has her relationship ended

in this awful way, but now her dreams of returning to the US are kind of put on hold. Yeah. And instead, now she decided she was just gonna continue pursuing her passion for music. She started teaching piano at Ciliman University and she was trying to find happiness where she was in the Philippines. But no matter how hard she tried, she really couldn't feel comfortable there. I think she had dealt

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being approved. And she was like, you know what, I'm gonna shake this up. I don't need him. No. I don't need him to go to the United States. So she was. She was able to return to the United States without that asshole.

I was gonna say, because there's plenty more for her in the United States than to set loser. So on December 7th, 1971, 42 year old Teresa Tabasa returned to the United States. Okay. And she had less than $400 in her pocket and a small amount of luggage. And that's all she had to start a new life.

Damn. So, with help from the Philippines Consulate in Chicago, she was able to find an apartment on Mozart Street in the city's northwest side. How fitting. Yeah, right? Mozart Street. And she decided she was going to complete her graduate studies at Indiana University. And in the meantime, she would find more work as a

typist during this time. So she just went back to what she knew. Now, Edward O'Meara had really traumatized Teresita and she was reluctant to even make new friends. Yeah, because she didn't trust anyone. Exactly. And she spent a lot of her time just reading, kind of exploring the city alone. And she decided she loved the city of Chicago. And this is where she wanted to make her home. Now, although she had hoped she'd be able to continue her studies and find work as a piano teacher,

it didn't take long for her to figure out that the job market for musicians was kind of small. A little tough at the time. The competition was fierce. And the schedule really wasn't great for her, and she wasn't going to be able to make enough money to support herself in the meantime. So she enrolled as a student in the Respiratory Therapy Program at the Central YMCA Community College in September of 1972.

And in the late spring of 1974, she graduated from that program. And she quickly found work as a therapist at Edgewater Hospital in Chicago. Good for her. So she's working as like a respiratory therapist. She's just like rolling with the punches. She's a badass.

Like she's like, oh, this won't work. I can just excel at this other thing and I'll just get a job here. Like she's just killing it. Yeah. Like nothing can deter her. Yeah, she's just like an independent lady She doesn't need anybody and she's gonna figure out how to make it work So she working at edgewater kind of opened up a whole new world of experiences for Tera Sita Her new salary meant that she could find a new apartment, a little larger, and this one could accommodate

a piano. Ooh. So in September of 1974, she moved into a big apartment, and this was in the Pine Grove Apartments, which was a new apartment building, across from Lincoln Park, and she immediately began looking for a small piano. And now, with her success in, you know, at school and the new job and moving into this bigger place, she had some new confidence and she started kind of opening up to new friends. Yeah. And she was like, you know, what I'm working with some cool people.

I can hang out with these people, not everybody sucks like Edward. Yeah, it started making her see that like I can be, I can live my normal life. So she became very close with Ruth Loeb, who was one of the hospital administrators. She became one of her best friends. And not long after moving into the apartment, she found a very small, but very reasonably priced, electric organ at a music shop nearby.

Oh, that's cool. And she had to put in her apartment. Now, she would play all the time, and then she ended up forming a small music group with her cousin and a few co-workers. Oh, that must have been so much fun. Yeah, like it's so cute and they would call themselves the Mahogany 5 plus 1. And they had five Filipino members. It was her cousin and a few co-workers. And then a drummer who was like the only white guy. Oh my god. That's why they called themselves the Mahogany Five plus one. That's incredible. So that is Mahogany Five plus one.

So the name was like a funny play on that. Yeah. And the band played like parties and events, like basically whenever they had time outside of work, they would play at different things. Oh yeah, Teresita. Yeah. And with the new job and apartment

and a really cool small group of friends, the like the band happening. She finally felt like her new life was like coming together. She was feeling comfortable, but she still had a lot of feelings from that heartbreak. Oh, yeah, I mean, of course. Yeah, she was still not ready to totally like give in to anybody romantically. She was not feeling dating. Yeah, I didn't want to get out there romantically. Yeah.

And in the fall of 1975, she got a letter from a former pen pal of hers, Robert, who was saying that he would be in Chicago for a convention and would like to take her to dinner. OK. His name was Robert Kraus, I believe. Kraus had intended to take her on a date. That was his intention with this.

It was a like, I want to take you to dinner as friends. He was like, I this. It wasn't like, I wanna take you to dinner as friends. He was like, I like you. Yeah. And I wanna take you to dinner. I kinda got that vibe. So he showed up at her apartment to pick her up and she had invited two of her coworkers with her. And the two coworkers said,

we kinda look out for her. They were just like, we're kinda like, that's the actual men. So he was like, all right. It's like, oaky doaky. So unfortunately, the fear of getting romantically or emotionally involved with men, especially, would be something that you kind of have to deal with her whole life.

She wasn't ready to move on from that. Yeah. But fortunately, Terceita never let it get to her and never let it take away anything from her life. Good. She was happy and she was fulfilled regardless. So truly, with the exception of the small amount of introvert hiding awareness that she had when she first arrived in Chicago, she ended up loving spending time with friends.

She loved any opportunity to throw a party. She was a social gal. I kind of girly. So she really got over it. I also love that she was like, if you wanna be be my lover, you got to get with my co-workers, you know? So you got to get with my band. So after what would be her eventual deaths, because obviously we know how this ends. I know. Many people would say that although she was what they referred to as a straight person, meaning she didn't drink her used drugs. Yeah, straight ahead. She always kept

beer and good scotch whiskey on hand for whenever she was entertaining for everyone else. What if I can do? She's so cool. Like what a girl. Like my girl. Now, one of the biggest and most memorable parties that Teresita ever threw was in the summer of 1976.

Her mother had come to Chicago for a visit and Teresita was so excited to take her mom around the city. She'll show her all the things that had caused her to just fall in love with that city. And she also wanted her mom to meet all of her friends that she made. And especially her co-workers like Ruth Loeb and another new friend who she had been spending time with at work named Alan Shaoery. So it was like a great time. And I love how close she was to her mom. Yeah.

Like that her mom taught her how to garden. Right. They had that bond. And then it's like she just couldn't wait to show her mom like the new city that she loved. That's really special. Now at about 3 p.m. the evening, the afternoon of February 21st, 1977,

Teresito was preparing to leave the hospital of February 21st, 1977. Teresito was preparing to leave the hospital after a long day of work. And she was putting on her coat getting ready to leave when her friend, Alan, who had just mentioned Alan Shawery. I didn't like your face when you said Alan. Yeah, he came into the room and they just kind of chatted and they left together. They were going to catch the bus together. They would do that often because the bus went by both their apartments. Yeah. So they would just get on the bus together. They would do that often because the bus went by both their apartments.

So they would just get on the bus together. Right. Now on the ride home, Terracita had mentioned to Alan that her television was all fucked up. And he was like, oh, I can come by tonight and take a look at it and see if I can try to fix it. I'm kind of handy.

And she was like, oh, that's great. And then they kind of discussed the Mahogany Five Plus ones upcoming show that they had. And Tara Sita said that they might be losing their drummer soon. And so Alan was like, I can play the drums. Like if you need someone to sit in, like I can do that for you. For you.

And it's one plus one. Exactly. So Tara Sita was like, oh, you know what? You can buy a ticket to see us at the show. And then you can decide if you really want to be a part of it. Yeah. And at the time, Alan was like, I can't really, like, I don't have an a lot of extra money,

so I can't really do it. And before getting off at her stop, she was like, listen, I'm going to set a ticket aside for you and you can come pick it up later. What a sweetheart. Yeah. So once she'd settled in at home that evening, she called her friend, who was also her bandmate,

Dr. John Abella, and a little after 7 p.m. they were just chatting on the phone, they discussed the upcoming show, you know, they talked about ticket sales and how they were gonna market it. And Teresita had also said that her friend, Alan, who he also knew might be taking, could take over the drumming seat. And he

was like, and she was like, oh, it might be, you know, a good opportunity for you to hear him play if we can get you guys all together. They talked for about 10 minutes and then Teresita apparently excused herself and said, someone's knocking at the door. And she told, she did tell him I was, she was expecting company. And she said someone who might buy a ticket for the concert. Okay. So at about 7.30 p.m., she was, Teresita got another call.

And she answered, Okay. And it was her friend and coworker Ruth Loeb. And they just kind of chatted for about 20 minutes. Very casual chat, just best friends, you know, besties. Besties be in besties. Yeah. And Teresita mentioned that she, quote, had a male visitor and roosted here a male

in the background just kind of chatting, like nothing crazy. But she didn't give Loeb a name and before ending the call. Okay. That was the last time that Loeb or anyone else would speak to Teresita Bassa. Oh.

So a little after 8.30 pm, Catherine and Mario Nasi, I believe it's how you say it, they were cleaning up after dinner. They lived on the 15th floor in the Pine Grove apartment where Teresita lived. I know that's high up. They were just cleaning up and they, you know, not long after turning off the television, they just kind of like settled in for the evening.

And Mario was like, what does that smell? And he suddenly smelled burning. Oh no. So they were like, what does that smell? And he suddenly smelled burning. Oh no. So they were like, what the fuck? So they ran around their apartment being like, did anything burn or something left on? Right. They couldn't find anything.

And Mario opened the door in the hallway and was immediately overwhelmed with smoke that was like filling up the floor. So he screamed for his wife to run out with him and they started running down the hallway, yelling fire and banging on their neighbor's doors to try to get everybody out. Right.

And as they made the way to the elevator, Mario got, he got out of the elevator on the seventh floor to let the buildings janitor know. His name was Patro Lulusa. Okay. He was like, I'm sending my wife to the lobby, but like there's a fire, we gotta get everyone out. Yeah, also like badass.

You also shouldn't use the elevator in a fire, right? Probably not, no. But Chicago firefighters had actually made their way into the hallway at this point because the fire alarm started going off and they told the men please leave immediately. And they had to crawl on their hands and knees like under the smoke. It was really thick at this point. And they had to crawl on their hands and knees like under the smoke.

It was really thick at this point. And they were going through trying to make sure everybody was out of all the different rooms. And they entered Tera's seat to boss' apartment and noticed that whatever the smoke was coming from, it was coming from inside this apartment. Her apartment was the smoke. And not only that, but it was coming from the middle

of her bedroom floor like right next to the bed. That's where that, but it was coming from the middle of her bedroom floor, like right next to the bed. That's where it seems to be originating. That's weird. And it was still burning. So they used axes and they smashed all the windows, the balcony door in her bedroom, and they just were trying to vent out all the smoke. And they were able to put the fire out.

And I think they had to use like the fire hose and two handheld extinguishers. So it was pretty big. And once they had cleared it all, the fire lieutenant Warren Wellen began investigating, trying to figure out what the fuck was going on here. And he said it looked like somebody had attempted to burn the mattress in that bedroom. And there was a pile of clothes on the floor, and it looked like the mattress had been put on the pile of clothes and then lit on fire. Weird. But so he kicked the smoldering pile.

And was like, what the fuck is under here? Like what's going on? That's when he discovered the nude body of Teresita Bassa. And he found a butcher knife embedded to the wooden handle in the exact center of her chest. Oh my God. Yeah. It was mayhem.

Teresita's apartment appeared to have been completely ransacked. They immediately thought that this was a rape murder or perhaps a robbery gone wrong. And they thought it was a rape because she was found nude. Right, of course. And with the clothing and mattresses piled on the body, they thought it was basically set a blaze to get rid of any evidence. The fire caused a ton of damage to Teresita's body. She had burns on

both sides of her body and head and a little left of her jet black hair was found. Now, fortunately, though, the fire hadn't made its way through the heaviest part of the clothing pile, so a lot of her face, torso, and upper legs were spared from being burned. That's good. Now, fire Lieutenant Whalen radioed the police because now they had found a body, and it was clearly a murdered body. Right. And so they called in the body and detectives arrived at the scene pretty quickly. Now, to the more seasoned detectives, the crime scene, particularly,

especially the pile of clothes in the center of the floor, it made them think of William Highrends, who is the lipstick killer. We haven't covered him yet. That's actually on my list to cover. He murdered several women in the mid-1940s, and he would leave piles of items at the crime scene as like his signature. Oh, weird. So immediately they were like, whoa, this is wild. But Hirons had been in prison for decades. I was just gonna say it was no longer in the 40s. So they were like, but they were like,

is this a copycat? Right. This just is a weird thing to do. Yeah. So but they were like, I don't know what this is, but it's not good. So from a quick search of the apartment, detectives were able to identify the victim from photos and, you know, personal papers and stuff. And they noted that there were three locks on

the door, and not one of them had been damaged or broken at all. Like whoever the killer was, it was likely that they were led into the apartment by Teresita. There was no struggle in that sense. The bedroom, though, really looked like a robbery, had occurred. Jewelry boxes were open and flung on the floor. They were overturned. Drollers were pulled out. The contents of everything was strewn around the room.

It was a mess. And the living room was kind of in a similar state of disarray, like plants, vases, tables were flipped over. Two televisions were side-by-side in front of the sofa, and next to them was her organ. Almost like, does she have a downstairs neighbor? I know, that's like, what happened here? Did somebody hear anything? Now, outside the bedroom, they didn't really get a lot

of evidence just like aside from the chaos out there. It's a fire. But they did find a note. It was on a memo pad by the phone, and on it was written in TeraSetus handwriting, get tickets for AS. Right, Alan Shavery. Right.

So officers, and they saw that, and we were there like, we should collect that. I don't know who that is. So officers started going door to door, interviewing residents on each floor, just trying to learn something about her. Like, about the about anyone she knew and what they found was that she was very private. Yeah, she was a private person. She kind of kept to herself when it came to her neighbors. Right. But the neighbor said

she was very pleasant. I just don't know a lot about her. And the best lead they could find came from the janitor, Pedro. And he told detectives that he had seen Tarracita arguing with someone in the lobby a few weeks earlier. He said he was a white guy, about 50 years old, and he seemed like he'd been drinking. That's weird. And he said, unfortunately, he couldn't really hear what they were arguing about, because he's like, I really shouldn't be listening to people's conversations.

Like, I wasn't trying to. We're in the city here. Yeah. Like, I'm going to leave that alone. But he said he hadn't seen the man before this and he hadn't seen him since. Hmm. Teresita's neighbor across the hall, Bruce Campbell, which I was like, wow, Bruce Campbell. Evil dead.

Sorry. That's a damn. You're like, not picking up what you're putting down. Sorry. That's a damn. You're not picking up what you're putting down. So Bruce Campbell, her neighbor from across the hall, he said he had seen her with a man as well. And she never told him the man's name and she didn't hear it. She never introduced him or anything. But Campbell was like fairly certain that the man was a sheet metal worker.

He remembers her saying something about that. Okay. Now, Catherine Nazzi, who was the one who had helped alert everybody about the fire, she gave investigators another lead. She said she didn't know too much about Tarrisita personally, but she did recall hearing from another neighbor a few weeks earlier that Tarrisita had been attacked

or raped or something like that. What? According to Catherine, Teresita apparently had been standing at the door, trying to get her key into the lock and a man in a ski mask grabbed her and attacked her. What?

But she didn't have any more information about that. So they asked the building manager, Joyce Coltsman, and Joyce Colaltman remembered another incident in September of 1974 where they had to have the locks changed after someone broke into Teresita's apartment and stole some things. Why? Yeah. What are you telling me right now? I'm not sure. That's the thing. Like no one had any real information and that was what they told them. That's the thing, like no one had any real information and that was what they told them. But all, that's so sinister.

So two separate instances where somebody broke in and I'm one of those instances, she was raped. Well, they said, the way she said it was that she had been attacked or raped or something like that. What we learn is she was not raped. Okay, okay. She might have been attacked though. Yeah, I mean, Jesus.

Yeah. Now, the case was assigned to 40-year-old homicide detective Joseph Stahula. Um, he- He was on the force for like a decade or more. Definitely had already made a name for himself as like the guy who gets should done. Like he's not going to quit. Stahula, he's not going to be anywhere. No, no.

And so initially, he, like everyone else, believed this was a rate murder, arson robbery kind of thing, making it very high profile. You would say that. So once the scene had been secured, Stahula and his partner, Lee Burley Epplin obsessed. They headed to the apartments

to kind of look over the scene. It was basically how they had been told it would be, like very little leads to go on right off the bat. But in the kitchen, Stahula found a cutting board out on the counter, and there was some lettuce and half a tomato. And next to that was a small piece of meat still wrapped in butchers paper. Okay.

And now the only thing that was very absent from this scene in the kitchen was a knife that had been used to cut the vegetables. And he assumed and was correct that it was the knife that was found protruding from Tera's seat to chest. So she had been cooking with it earlier? Yeah.

Now other than that, the detectives discovered some, you know, personal papers. They found her dress book with a lot of names and $30 in cash. And that, that address book had the names and numbers for like everyone she knew. So they were like jackpot. Now as Stuhula and Eppelin made their way through this address book, they were calling people trying to get anything they could. They finally came across the numbers of Ray King and Richard Pizzotti.

Okay. They were two men who had accompanied Teraesita out to dinner with Robert Kraus a few years earlier. They were the two co-workers that were like, we kinda look out for her. Oh, shit. They were the ones that she brought to dinner with the guy who wanted to take her out.

So these are good guys. Yeah. And these two men confirmed they came like, and were there for this. They confirmed that Teresita didn't have a boyfriend, not to their knowledge, but that she hung out with men. I think they said she liked men for their company.

Yeah. But she was like, no, she wasn't romantically involved with anyone. Right. And they did say in the months before her murder, she had seen off and on this man named Robert Nudson, who was a construction worker in his early 50s, who knows if that was the guy that the neighbors had seen her in the janitor and seen her arguing with.

It kind of a white guy in his 50s. Right. Now, the detectives next call was to Ruth Loeb. That was Teresita's coworker and closest friend. Ruth confirmed that she had spoken to Teresita on the night of the murder and that the two had made plans to have lunch the following day.

I can't imagine having that knowledge like that your friend got off the phone. Oh yeah, and then they got murdered. Yeah. Like, oh my god. And she had told her like I have someone kind of like someone knocked at the door. She's like, I heard that person come in.

Right. Like, oh, and she told detectives that while she was on the phone with her, she heard a male voice in the background. And she said, she couldn't make out what he was saying, just that it was a male voice. And the best she could tell was that Teresito was, you know, in good spirits, didn't seem to be in this man's company against her will, didn't seem to be like stressed out or anything, very normal conversation, very normal attitude. And the information from Ruth confirmed the earlier suspicion that

Tera's seat is killer was likely known to her and was led in voluntarily. Now going to the autopsy. to her and was led in voluntarily. Now going to the autopsy. On the morning of February 22nd at the morgue, pathologist Dr. Tai An began his autopsy of Tera's seat his body. While he was doing the autopsy, Stahula and Eppelin, Burley Eppelin there, they were waiting in the corner just watching, yep, which pathologist loved that. And among the more significant findings, was that beneath the skin of her neck, which was totally charred, the doctor did find bruising on her throat and a fractured larynx, which indicated that at some point before she died and was lit on fire, she'd been choked. How did they find out if there's bruising if it's charred skin? Because they're able to see like the where there's some like gathering like pooled. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Like underneath the skin. Oh, I see

Like is in the different layers. Yeah. Now they determined that the cause of death was a stab wound lacerating the heart and strangulation Wow. They also noted that TeraCita as body showed that she had not been sexually assaulted. Okay. So the findings of the autopsy pretty much completely undermined the theory that the detectives had been building since they first got there. Oh, no. She hadn't been raped. Yeah.

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with the pathologist, two other detectives went to the home of Robert Nudson, the guy that she had gone to, she had been seeing us. See you. Yeah, be a little bit. And the man, he confirmed that he did know Teresita and that they'd been on a few dates, but he said on the night of the murder, he hadn't left his house except for a short trip to the grocery store.

Yep. And they scheduled a polygraph test for him that day, but apparently the officers let him take a volume before the test. Is that what you're really called? Which would make the results inconclusive. Right. But still his prints did not match the second set that was found at the scene that they ended up finding.

I'm just picturing him like, do you guys mind if I take this volume? And they're like, yeah, that probably won't mess that up, but I'll think what? So for months, the detectives poured over Teresita's life that address book, they talked to everyone she knew. They chased down every single little pulling thread that they could.

Unfortunately, while they initially would have these like promising leads, they would all fall apart. They'd all get ruled out with an interview or a polygraph exam. And by the spring, all the leads had dried up. And they were running out of people's interview at this point.

And in the summer after Teresita's murder, things at Ed's Water Hospital all the leads had dried up, and they were running out of people's interview at this point. And in the summer after TeraSita's murder, things at Ed's Water Hospital had kind of just returned to normalcy at that point. You know, all the employees just had, in the respiratory unit, just had to go about their lives. That's really sad, because they all loved her a lot. And yeah, in a 39-year-old inhalation therapist at Edgewater named Remi Chua, she was working there. She had hardly known Teresita. They had literally, I think, met each other

at orientation when Remi was at orientation. They had worked different shifts, like they did not hang out. They didn't know each other very well. They knew of each other. Okay. I think they called each other a nodding acquaintance ship at best. Yeah. And that I say this because it's strange because Remy's husband and co-workers said that she became kind of preoccupied with Teresita's life overnight. It got of nowhere. One day in July, Remy was sitting alone in the hospital's break room, just all alone, and her coworkers are in the hallway, and they see her almost jump out of her chair and tear out of the room, like something scared the shit out of her.

And when they looked to see what she had run from, there was nothing there. Yeah, there was. And so, whatever it was, it scared the shit out of her so badly that she went home. She wouldn't finish her shift. Okay. And so Remi didn't say anything at the time, but later she told her husband, Dr. Jose Chua,

that she said she was sitting alone in the break room and she just kind of briefly closed her eyes like kind of just like resting a little bit and then she opened them and looked up and saw Teresita Bassa standing in front of her, not moving her speaking, just staring at her. What the fuck? And she said she jumped up and ran the fuck out of there.

And she had become obsessed with her life before this happened. Yes. Okay. Like, she had kind of become like very into what had happened, and very into like her, and asking people like, you know, like, did you, and it wasn't like she was asking people like, what did she like? What was she into kind of thing?

She was almost telling people facts about her that people were like, how do you know that? Oh, that's so funny. Like why do you know that? Like, you don't know her. Yeah. And she was like, yeah, I'm not really sure because I don't know her.

So it sounds like she's an empath. Now in the days that followed Teresita's appearance to Remy, co-workers remembered that Remy's personality shifted a lot after this. They started noticing that she was very chatty when she wasn't very chatty before, and she would just quote, chat her on about the piano, about classical music, playing or partying, like throwing parties, all the things that Teresita was into. So she was possessed.

And Teresita's co-workers were like, this is disturbing. Like they had all been very close to Teresita. Probably like pissed them off. Well, and it seemed like this woman was doing a strange impression of her almost. Yeah. So they all actually ended up reporting it to Remy's supervisor, Ted Ellis,

and being like, she's being weird. And but now Remy was feeling ganged up on and kind of harassed by her coworkers, and who were like, what the fuck dude stopped pretending to be Tera Sita? So she ended up reporting to Ellis, that she believed that it had become a hostile work environment.

And Ellis tried to deescalate this whole situation. And just like, what is going on? Because he was like, what? But he was just making Remy angrier when he was trying to deescalate this whole situation. Just like, what is going on? Because she's like, what? But it was just making Remy angrier when he was trying to deescalate it. She was like, I'm not doing anything. Like, I don't understand. She ended up being terminated that day

for gross insubordination. Oh man. So it was rough, like obviously getting terminated out of nowhere, but it was kind of a relief for Remy because she said she was very confused and anxious at work. Like something was different and she wasn't feeling comfortable there. And she said, you know, like, people making comments

about the terracy to thing and like claiming that she was impersonating this woman that she hardly knew, like it was just getting weird there. So she said, like, she was kind of relieved that she was like out of there because she felt like something some weird energy. Okay. And I'm sitting here like what the fuck is going on? That evening, as she and her husband Dr. Jose Chua were relaxing in their living room and she's just kind of like fuck I got fired. Remi kind of drifted off to sleep in a chair and then a few minutes later she stood

up very abruptly didn't say anything to her husband and just walked into the bedroom. That wasn't like me kind of drifted off to sleep in a chair. And then a few minutes later, she stood up, very abruptly, didn't say anything to her husband and just walked into the bedroom. And that wasn't like her. Yeah. And when she didn't come back a few minutes later, like just stayed in the bedroom, Jose was like, okay, I'm going to check on her. So he went in there and checked and she was lying on the bed with her eyes wide open. And so he was like, hey, what's wrong? You okay? But she wouldn't say anything. So he was like, what the fuck? Like, are you okay?

And then she started speaking in Tagalog, I believe is how you say it, which is like their native language. And she was saying, mama, mama, are you there? Mama. What? And Jose was very confused. And he was like, what the fuck? Because the chewers also, they came from the Philippines and they spoke to Gala at home.

When you just said that they also came from the Philippines, my whole body did the... Wom. Yeah. Like, they're like, oh, I have...I'm covered in chills. Because this is the language they spoke at home. Yeah. And this is the language that Teresito would also know. Uh-huh.

And he said, The voice coming from his wife was not like her normal speaking voice. I got a call. So he said, She was speaking a language I understood that we speak at home. But not in her voice.

But this was not her voice. And then he said, To Jose's ear, it sounded like there was a slight Spanish accent here. And then he said to Jose's ear, it sounded like there was a slight Spanish accent here. And then he said, Remy had her eyes fixed on the ceiling, and she said, I am Tera C. Tabasa.

Holy shit. And Dr. Chua was like, oh fuck, and he was like, I was very alarmed, and she kept rambling on in this language about the dead woman, whom she barely knew, and he tried to get her to snap out of it

and just explain what the fuck was going on. And then she looked at him and said, Dr. Chua, I would like to ask for your help. And he was like, why are you calling me Dr. Chua? I know, I'm your husband. And he said, so he was like, what kind of help? Yeah. And she responded to stop the person who killed me. Oh, what the fuck? And he was like, what kind of help? Yeah. And she responded to stop the person who killed me.

Oh, what the fuck? And he was like, what? Oh my God, stop, stop. Now, stop. In this moment, holy fucking shit. Jose was like, okay, this has been a tough week for Remi, my wife. She's having a break. She's gone through some shit.

She thought was Terese Tabasa in the break room. People have been shitty to her. She kind of got ganged up on. She was like, fired from work. Maybe she's just really stressed and under a lot of anxiety. And this is like some kind of hallucination or like she's having a bad dream.

She's like, maybe having a night terror right now. So he started walking towards the bathroom because he was gonna get something like a cool cloth to calm her. Yeah. And like, he sounds so sweet. He does sound like a sweetie. Yeah.

Drew would be like, I have to leave a meeting, right? Yeah. And this is, in Jose, Dr. Chua's like, I'm gonna take care of you. Like, I'm gonna get you something to calm you down. I promise you, Drew would be running down the fucking street at this point. And he said as he was walking towards the bathroom, she lifted her arm and gestured to the telephone

and said, call the police, please doctor, call the police and tell them who killed me. I cannot rest until they know. And Jose was kind of starting to panic at this point because he's like, I can't call the police right now. And he was like, I don't know what to tell them. I don't know what you're saying. Like, I don't know what's happening right now. And then Remy suddenly abruptly came to and was very confused why she was in bed

and what the fuck was wrong with her husband, why would he be so alarmed? This is real, this happened. This happened. And he explained to her what happened. He was like, um, this is what just happened. And she was like, what? Like I have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh my God, she must have been so scared and he must have been so scared. And they're like, what? Like they had not, nothing like this had happened to them before. Oh, usually it doesn't in your life. It's not like these people are people that are like trying to do this all the time. Like this was a very random thing.

Oh my God. In the next day, Jose had driven his wife to edgewater to get her belongings from work. And they, you know, they came back, they were in the living room, and Remi was talking on the phone. And suddenly, she hands him the phone abruptly and says, Teresita wants to come back. Nope, nope, nope, nope, oh my god, what?

And then she walked out of the room in the middle of a phone call. She literally stopped, handed him the phone, said, Teresita wants to come back and walked into the bedroom. And so Jose was like, I'm sorry, my wife has to call you back and ended the phone call and followed her into the bedroom and she was laying just as she was the day before,

on the bed. Isn't it interesting that like, she kept going back to her bedroom to lay in the middle of her bed? Yep. What? And again, she said, I am Tera's seat Tabasas. I feel like I believe you. And she said she was murdered by a man named Alan Shaoery. Yeah, I already knew that. And she said, and she spouted this to him.

She said, he came to fix my television. He stabbed me, he choked me, and he stole some of my jewelry. And she said, and then she just urgently requested him, please go to the police, please go to the police with this. And she was, he was so confused. And he was like, I can't go to the police. I don't have any proof of this. So I can't call them and say that you are just telling me this ghost of this woman. Yeah, he's like, I can't tell them the police. I don't have any proof of this. Like I can't call them and say that you are just telling me

this ghost of this woman. Yeah, he's like, I can't tell them that you're telling me this beyond the grave. Like they will think I, he was like, they'll think I'm losing it. Right. I will get in trouble. Right.

And the voice just kept pleading for him to help and insisting that they could provide proof. And then they provided proof. Tell me right now. They explained every piece of jewelry that he had stolen. And they said it was a ring that my mother had given me. It was like another piece of, and I'll explain those in a little bit.

But that ring that her mother had given her a year before. Oh my God. Also, sorry, didn't he work at the hospital with her? Yeah. So this fucker, like, to Remy and Dr. Alan, and they know him. Yeah. What?

Yep. Now, as they provided this proof of this is what he took from me, Remy came to and was again completely confused what just happened. And this happened again the following day, the exact same thing over and over with the voice saying, I know, like, please call, please provide this proof, please tell them that

this is what's happening. So Remi was like, when she came to, when he told her again that this is, you keep doing this, this is the third day. Remi was like, we got to do something. It's just going to keep happening otherwise. So it's, Remi called a friend until the friend, the story, and this friend who I guess was connected to the consulate,

they placed a call to the Evanston police and using their connections were like, this is what I've heard is happening. Right. They didn't give them the full rundown, I guess, but they didn't give them the rundown from the great, the whole thing. So the tip about the chua's was assigned

to Detective Floyd McKinney at the Evanston police. Okay. And he drove to the Chua's home to interview them. This is absolutely hilarious. So they were worried that the detective was not going to take the story of Tarrisita's spirit possessing Remy's body and telling them. I feel like most people really were.

Really well. Now remember, if they were looking to get something out of this and they were looking to like get attention, they would have just said it. Yeah, they would have been like, wow, she got possessed. Like this would have been like that thing. No, they didn't want it. They just told McKinney that Remy had received a threatening phone call

from a former coworker, Alan Shaoery. And that she believed that he could have played part in TeraSita's murder because of how aggressive he was, and that he had mentioned something that made her think. Guys, this is wild. So they were like, we have to get Alan's name out there because TeraSita is telling us, but we can't tell that TeraSita told us this.

Because then they were like, the walk of three, which it's like, why would they have done that? No. They would have just said it if they were trying to get attention. My God. I like losing it. So there's no actual evidence to support this at the moment. And McKinney, the detective, just kind of took the statement, left the house. Like, I'll write it down, I guess. Yeah. He was like, wow, that's wild. And back at the station, he reported it to a supervisor.

Like, you know, they have this name. They got a threatening phone call. They think it could be connected. So his supervisor was like, you know, they have this name, they got a threatening phone call, they think it could be connected. So his supervisor was like, and passed this on to Chicago, where the jurisdiction is. So, you know, they would have to be the ones to conduct this. So they did. So detective McKinney and Evanston was the one who received the tip. Okay. And they hadn't had any leads in the case since the end of April, so he was like awesome.

Like we'll just go with this. And he was not aware of all the specifics. Obviously, he got that story from it. But he explained to the people in Chicago that he had received a tip from this couple in Evanston, about a man named Alan Shaoery being involved possibly in the Basa murder. And it was Stahula, obviously, who heard this tip. And he got the tip and he placed a call to the Chua's the next day. Okay. Now this is Stahula in Chicago, who is now having to contact the Chua's.

Where did, sorry, where did the Chua's live? They lived in Evanston. Oh, okay. Which is just another jurisdiction. That's why they had to like... I see. And apparently, they had lived about a half hour outside of Chicago. So Stahula had to go, you know, to their address, he had to go sit down and talk to them. And he was like, what do you guys know? Right. Now at first, they stayed with the story. They heard of, they received a harassing phone call

from a man that Remy believed was Alan Shawery. Yeah. And she explained that Shawery worked as what she thought was an orderly at Edgewater. She was like, I'm not really sure what he does. There's different reports that he was an orderly or he was in a respiratory therapist. Okay. But she said he likes to pretend he's a doctor. Yes. He even gets mail addressed to Dr. Shawery.

That's something. Something about the story seemed a little strange to Stuhulla. He just had like his feelings. Yeah, his radar was going on. His body senses are tingling. Yeah, yeah. And he said the chewers were being a little cagey and they seemed a little reluctant to talk,

which he thought was weird. Right. And he was like, this seems kind of just like a prank phone call. Like, I don't know about this. And he said every time that Shaori's name was brought up, he could see Jose tense up and become uncomfortable. Really? So he was like, what's going on?

And he kind of pressed on them a little bit and was like, what do you know? Like what's happening here? And finally Jose leaned towards him and said, tell me Mr. Detective, do you believe in the occult or an exorcism? Uh-huh. And so he was like, I'm open-minded. Okay. And so thank you. She was explained the events of the previous week, the real events. They told the detective Jose had asked the voice who killed Tarsita and she had said Alan Shawery. And he said she kept repeating his name over and over and over. And Joseph

said, or excuse me, Jose said, he said he killed me. He killed me. He killed me over and over and over. Then he added credibility to the story because Jose explained that the voice had said that showery had taken her jewelry and so Shua said, okay, and he was like, so he didn't even give him the specifics of that yet. He was like, he took his jewelry and he was like, all right, we don't know that yet because people said they didn't think anything was missing from the scene. But then he was like, I'm going to test this.

So he goes, did the voice indicate to you that her killer raped her? And Jose said, Oh, no, no, she did not. She only said that she had been stabbed. Oh, wow. And Jose also, then right after this, went into the description of the jewelry, and said that it was appendent from the Philippines that was taken, a cocktail ring with a pearl in leg given to Teresita by her mother a couple of years earlier. And also that the, I guess that the voice insisted that this was going to be how they would know the truth. Like, I guess the voice was literally like,

you tell the police this. And they're going to find these things in Shao Rui's possession. Yeah, I promised you this. So he was like, Shit. This is pretty wild. So how are we gonna get a search warrant?

That's the thing. All of the, like this, this, this, whatever. And he was like, okay, it's weird because in the press, they had said this was possibly a rape murder robbery.

It was not in the press that she had not been sexually assaulted. So that was a strange one. And when he went back to the stations to Hula, considered the whole thing. He didn't know what to make of it. And like I said, no one had reported that any jewelry was missing from Teresita's apartment. And he said they interviewed most, but not all of the co-workers that she worked with. And no one ever really talked about a man named Alan Shaoery.

And then he's flipping through the case file and he comes across the memo pad next to the telephon. That was next to the telephone. And it's said on that memo pad, get tickets for A.S. And he was like, huh, Alan, Shauri. The fact that she was gonna get him from all three tickets. And this is what he fucking did to her.

Yeah. Now fortunately it turned out that whoever received the call from the Evanston police earlier in the day like to take that tip and pass it on to the detectives. They had already run Shauri's name for them, which I was like badass. Yeah, like ahead of things.

So they had already pulled his full report, his full case file for still who less. So he was like, yeah, you're an MVP. You're the real one. Alan Shao Rui was 30 years old when he started working at the Edgewater hospital. Yeah. He was born and raised in New York City. He'd studied sociology and psychology at New York University and Utah State. Wow.

Before settling in Chicago, around 1969. He'd studied sociology and psychology at New York University and Utah State before settling in Chicago around 1969. So like I said, there's varying reports whether what his job at the hospital was, but he did work with Tera Sita alongside her. Right. They didn't seem like they would be likely friends because on paper, they are very different. Yeah. He had an arrest record that was like very long,

but she probably didn't know that. If that included arrests for burglary in 1967, stolen mail in 1966, theft in 1971, two arrests for rape in 1972. How far was he doing working at a hospital? Yep. And both of those rapes were done on Chicago's north side where Teresita lived.

Now they were but they were both friendly with each other. They had very outgoing personalities the two of them. They bonded together They both loved music. He was about to be in her band. I guess they really got along like the two of them were like friends Yeah, it sounded like it is a ride the both together in the mid 1970s He had been living with his German-born girlfriend, Yanka Kalmach. She, they lived on the city north side, which was opposite the Chicago Transit Authority. So investigators were like, he was not outwardly, obviously a guy

that would have rape or murder on his rap sheet. They said he was the sort of person that like you could easily come to like. He had a face that projected, I wanna be your friend. That's scary. And it took some time to actually track him down. But once they got him at his apartment and knocked on the door,

he seemed perfectly fine with going down to the station and talking to the detectives. And before they'd even arrived at the station, he asked if whatever they wanted to talk about had to do with Tarrisita Bassa. They didn't respond. They just brought him into the interrogation room and immediately read him his rights. And the detectives explained that they'd been speaking with a lot of these co-workers

at the hospital. And there were some things that were said that kind of led them to want to talk to Alan. That's what they let out. Yeah. They didn't say that Tarresita told us you didn't. I hope he did find that out eventually. Teresita, so Shaoery claimed that he and Teresita were very good friends, but he said it was platonic.

He explained they would talk during work. They would ride the bus home together. They ate lunch together. It was a very normal coworker friendship. Wow. Now initially, he said that he hadn't seen Teresita outside of work for about six months. But the detectives decided to bluff a little and they told them that they'd found his fingerprints

at the apartment. They had no. Yeah. And he said there was no way that those were six months old. So he was like, okay. And then he revised his story. And that's when he told the detectives that not only had he not not seen her in six months out of sight of work, he had ridden the bus home with Teresita on the day that she was murdered. Right, like that's gonna look a little weird, dude. Yeah, and he told them he'd promised

to go to her apartment later that night to fix her television, but he said he'd forgotten and instead had gone home, and he had fixed wiring in his own apartment. Lies. And he assured them that his girlfriend would verify the sell by. I bet she would.

Now, they were like, huh, okay. And they were like, you have a girlfriend. I wonder if she has new jewelry. So they said, I wouldn't have even thought of that. Yep. And now that they have brought him in for questioning, they could now search his apartment. So they went and Bianca was there, so they could question her.

And when they told her about the alibi, she was very confused and said, we don't have any problems with the wiring in here. He never did any work on it. She was just like, fuck that, no, he didn't. And so they were like, can we look in your jewelry box? And she was like, absolutely, you can. Good for her. And they didn't really know what they just like, fuck that, no, he didn't. And so they were like, can we look in your jewelry box? And she was like, absolutely, you can. Good for her.

And they didn't really know what they were like looking for quite yet, but they, you know, they were just like, I don't know. At this point, they were like, maybe it's going to be good. It's not. And they eventually, they were able to find someone, like one of her friends, who could actually look in the jewelry box too, and point to see

if anything was recognizable. What about Teresita's friends? Exactly. And so they found who they found was Richard Pazotti, who was one of the two men that went on the day. That's right. And he said he didn't see anything that he believed belonged to Teresita and they had him come down where Yonka was and look into this thing.

And he was like, yeah, I don't see anything. That's hers. And then he was leaving the room and he looked over at Yanke and he said, that ring on her fingers, Tera Sitas. Oh, and Yanke told, yeah, Yanke told detectives that Allen had given her the ring as a belated Christmas gift sometime around the end of February. What the actual fall. So she said, here you go, take it. And it was later identified by Teresita's cousin to be the cocktail ring given to her by her mother. Oh my God, that's disgusting.

That he gave that to his girlfriend as a late Christmas gift. And the cousin also looked and was able to look in the box and identified a Jade pendant. That was Teresita's. And I remember her, Remy had said, there's a Jade pendant. There's a pendant. She said, she said, a pendant, a ring, a cocktail ring that belongs to, and a cocktail ring

that belongs to my mother. Yeah. That was my mother. Right, right, right. And he said, the cousin said there was also two other items in there that he believed belonged to Teresita as well. This is so horrific. Now, after he heard about the jewelry and about his girlfriend denying the alibi,

Shaoori tried to spin a story about how he bought that jewelry from some guy on the street. But both detectives just kind of looked at him and were like, really? Is that really the fucking story you want to go with? He immediately dropped it. And he said, I murdered her. Just confessed. Why?

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So he said the reason was he said he had been helping Tera Sita obtain citizenship papers and it had on several occasions driven her to the naturalization office. And after he would do this, she would always give him a cash tip of five or ten dollars for just for helping her out. So he decided to rob her. So he assumed that she had money in her apartment. This is why you shouldn't be kind to people. No, you shouldn't. Because also she didn't. She had $30 in the apartment.

Right, she didn't. Like she was just doing that out of the gift of her apartment. She just did that to help you. And yeah, he broke. So he said, at the time of the murder, he was very broke. He was behind on all his bills. He was very desperate.

Well, get another job, asshole. And as soon as Teresita closed the door after letting him in, he grabbed her from behind and gave her a chokehold. She lost consciousness very quickly. And he said he laid her down on the floor and just started ransacking the place for money. All he found was $30 in cash and what he thought was expensive looking jewelry.

So once he'd ransacked the place, he went back to the living room, he picked her up off the floor, carried her into the bedroom, and he said he didn't know what to do, so he decided to make it look like rape. So he took her clothing off, went to the kitchen, and got that knife off the counter that she had used to cut up the lettuce and the tomato, and he stabbed her into her sternum. Holy shit. According to Alan, he described Teresita as being subconscious at the time, which I was like, nope, incorrect. You work at a fucking hospital. And he said she didn't feel anything. Who the fuck are you to say that? Yeah, like you don't even know that it's a different but unconscious.

She wasn't dead. unconscious. After, so he said he piled some clothes on top of her body, dragged the mattress over to her and set fire to a paper bag that he put on top of the clothing. And once that was all on fire, he fled the apartment and went back to his. What a piece of human garbage.

Now, during this questioning, Stahula put in a bunch of control questions to see if he was telling the truth or if he was just repeating things he had heard in the media because he wanted to be sure this was an accurate confession and not somebody going to claim that they were forced into it. Smart guy. So Alan accurately described the scene in the apartment which wasn't released to the press. He described what Teresita was wearing. He said what he'd stolen. None of that was in the newspapers. And he also said that he wanted to, quote, make it look like a sex crime

and that he had not sexually assaulted her. And none of that had been released to the media. Wow. So the confession was very genuine. And, you know, just to be sure, they had him go through it a second time. And they said he never wavered from that confession. And so they had him go through it a second time and they said he never wavered from that confession.

And so they took him out of the room and they said as he went by Yonka who was standing out there, he told her that he probably wouldn't be seeing her again for a long time. I can't even imagine what she said to him. Yeah. Now, everything had worked out, it seemed. And the detectives were really confident that they had enough to give the district attorney for prosecution. I mean, they had everything. The only issue is that they weren't sure how to explain how they'd even made their way

to Alan Shaoery, right? But there was no way around it. They had to tell the judge in the jury that the ghost of Tarrasita Bassa spoke through Rami Chua and led them to their killer. I mean, spoke through Remy Chua and led them to their killer. I mean. And the thing is, they may not have been able to explain what happened, but they were right about every detail. Right. So it's like, this is going to sound kind of kooky, but everything is right.

It's right. What happened and it let us hear. So the case was assigned to Thomas Organ of the Cook County District Attorney's Office who would be representing the state. Yeah. And at first Organ was a skeptical of the voice from the grave story. I think so.

And he had no idea how he was going to present this case to a jury. He said, in my five years as a prosecutor, handling 70 or so felony cases, I've never run into anything like this. Also, sorry, is his last name, Organ? Yeah. Wow.

Yeah, right. But he dove into it and he. Also, sorry, is his last name, Oregon? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, right. But he dove into it and he researched it, investigated it, and he said, they're telling the truth. Everything in this case just like lines up. It does. Like spiritually, physically. Yeah.

And he said, he was like, I believe the chew is, how can I not? Yeah, because they didn't even want to tell this to begin with. That's the thing. Like that, and I feel like that gives more credibility. Yeah, they didn't even want to close this to begin with. That's the thing. And I feel like that gives more credibility. Yeah, they didn't run out to tell this to anyone. Right, exactly. So a pretrial hearing was held in the Circuit Court of Cook County on September 7, 1978.

And this is when Alan's defense attorney, William Swano, he tried to have the charges dismissed because of the unusual circumstances that preceded his arrest. It's like, yeah, sure, but like, why does your client have everything and know everything about her? Well, he's claiming that Remi Chua had faked the episodes because she'd been fired, she was stressed out, she was trying to get attention. Okay. And prosecutor Thomas Organ argued that detectives had pursued a viable lead and found probable chaos to arrest Alan Shaoery.

So the paranormal thing that preceded it was unusual, but ultimately irrelevant because it led to the truth. And the judge agreed. Wow. And Alan Shaoery was ordered to stand trial for the first degree murder of Terracid Tabasa. Because you planned it on the way over. Yeah, because you had planned the whole thing. Alan Shawery went on trial January 8, 1979,

and the media went nuts about this. Thomas Organ knew he was fighting a very uphill battle with a lot of his case was resting on a tip from a ghost. So that'll be just cool. But he fought through. He was undeterred. In the months since the case had come to him, Yeah, you know, that'll be just cool. But he fought through, he was undeterred. In the months since the case had come to him,

he had interviewed the chews again and again. And he said it was, you know, I was trying to get, I knew there were gonna be on the stand. And he said, also, I was looking for holes in the story. Right, and he found nothing. And he said, in front of the jury, Oregon tried to minimize the supernatural claims and just kind of focus on the facts of the case, which was a case of murder

and robbery and not ghosts and possession. So he was like, the reality of the case is that there is evidence in his possession to say he murdered her. Yeah. And he was like, I don't want the jury to forget that, but there's facts here. Well, regardless of how we got here, we got here.

So for the most part, his argument remained much as it had during the pre-trial hearing with Alan Shaare had been confronted with undeniable proof of his involvement and with the jewelry. Yep. And on that, he had given an oral and written confession to murdering her.

So that is the facts. Yeah. And the defense argued that Shaori had been arrested on nothing more than the Chua's unbelievable story of possession, and that Alan had only confessed to spare his girlfriend from being arrested along with him and giving birth to their children in jail.

Because apparently she was pregnant. Oh my God, that's horrific. Now, Remy Chua was in the process, they said was in the process of being fired from her job. She had personal problems. They didn't release what those personal problems were. They probably didn't exist. But they told the jury that she had just made up

this possession thing, this whole act to get attention. And sure, anybody hearing that would be like, under normal circumstances, sure. Tell me that she stressed out, she lost her job. There was all this weird shit going on. Maybe she wants attention. Sure. Why not?

Except that from the start that she was, didn't want to report the whole thing even. They were reluctant reporters and reluctant witnesses. They didn't want to talk about any of it. They were stressed out talking about it. They didn't want to talk about any of it. They were stressed out, talking about it. They were very reluctant. And also, like, cool. She got fired from her job. She has all these personal problems. She made this up. Uh, then why was the jewelry and the Girlfriend's presumption? Why did it pan out? And why did he know the apartment scene if he hadn't been there? And how did he know that she hadn't been raped if he wasn't the one to not rape her?

Exactly. And at no time had the chewest tried to make money off of or capitalize on this story. No time. Right. So, like, they had nothing to gain here. In fact, everyone who knew them and anytime anyone talked to them, they were like, we really just want to go away. Like, we don't want to be part of this story anymore.

Yeah. We don't want to be in the spotlight. We just want to leave this for you to fix. Oh, that's it. Because realistically, I just said they have nothing to gain. Really, they have everything to lose. Yeah. They, at least, I mean, he's a fucking doctor. Yeah.

Like, people will doubt him if he, like, made this up. And, you know, and she's a respiratory therapist. Like, they have, like, you know Like they have good jobs, they have expectations. Like this wouldn't be a good thing. They're not trying to be like, you know, they're not running around to all the media. Let's be like, let me tell you my story of possession. They're like, please don't talk to me.

Right, exactly. And so in their closing arguments, both sides tried to hammer home those arguments that they've been making the whole time. The defense kind of focused on the paranormal part, being like, this is crazy, trying to put in the jury's mind, this is wild, also propping up Shawery's claim that he had been coerced into confessing, because the detectives had threatened to arrest his girlfriend as a necessary.

Okay. Now, Thomas Organ dismissed any claims of coercion, saying to the jury that his story might be believable if it came from a 16-year-old boy who might be easily intimidated. Yeah, exactly. But they said Alan Shawery is an adult, educated man with an extensive criminal history. That's the other thing he's literally done. He's criminal. And as for the supernatural part about the Chua's, he told them it doesn't matter as to guilt or innocence. What does matter is that the information furnace to police checked out. And after 13 hours of deliberation, the jury sent a note to the judge on the afternoon

of Friday, January 26th saying that they were hopelessly deadlocked. I would think because can you imagine that 13 hours and they're not going back and forth? And the judge dismissed the jury and a new trial was set for February 14th. They needed Ronald. So February 14th came and went and the judge had to order a continuance, which got the defense really feeling good because they started getting confident that they could get an acquittal the second time around. But on the evening of February 21st,

only a few days later, Alan Shaoerie called his lawyer and asked him to arrange a meeting with the judge and the district attorney. The next day, Shaoerie and lawyers from both sides stood in front of the judge and Alan Shaoerie against the advice of his attorney pleaded guilty to the murder of Teresita Bassa. Do you think Teresita was like appearing to him at this point?

I wonder if she was like, you fucker, I'm gonna haunt your ass. Right? And he was like, I'm just gonna admit this. Yeah. The District Attorney's Office confirmed that they had no plea deal. They had not offered a deal for this. Wow. I feel like he had to have been being haunted.

And honestly, I hope that even after he pled guilty, he continued to be haunted. That's what I think. And Shao ri would not give an explanation for why he decided to do this. That's what makes me think we already know. Yup. And his lawyer asked the judge for leniency. That's all they can do. And the judge considered everything and the request for leniency and sentence Alan Shaoery to concurrent terms of four to 12 years on armed robbery and arson charges. What about the murder? He was never convicted of the murder from what I can tell.

He was convicted of armed robbery and arson. That's why he got that sentence. What? So I wonder if there was some kind of plea deal that happened by my friends, because it's very confusing. That doesn't make any fucking sense that they were just like, yeah,

I guess we'll just throw the murder off the table for no fucking reason. Just no big deal, but he admitted to it, which is so wild, so. I wonder if he had information on like another piece. I wonder if something is out there that we don't know about. That doesn't make any sense.

And also that pisses me the fuck off. Because he served the minimum four years of his sentence and was paroled in 1983. What the actual fuck are you kidding me? Yep. Oh my God, Tarrisita baby, if you didn't haunt him. And that is the story of Teresita Bassa. Four years he served. Four years he served for that.

What? I know. Teresita is the baddest bitch alive and the baddest bitch in that afterlife also. And good for the chua's. Yeah, for listening to her. And for like being brave really. Brave enough to tell a detective when they didn't want to

that this is what it happened. That. And good for Yonka for just being like sure come on in and like no, I'm not telling you his alibi is correct. Like no, he did not work on wiring that. That's a good for Yonka. But like damn. But what do we not know because that's

there's any sense that like in my opinion, it not know because that doesn't make any sense? Like in my opinion, it really sucks because justice wasn't served. No, it really wasn't at all. At all years is not a sentence for that. And she like nobody ever went to prison for her murder. Yeah. I'm so angry right now. I am, I was too, I was very angry.

Fuck! There's something that happened in that trial that we, that is not public. That got to be said. That we don't know about. That got us to do. That we don't know about. That definitely is hidden somewhere in the annals of that record.

I, I just have like a gut feeling that he had information on another. They're addressing something. Something like that. Because that's nothing. Like, because he had to have helped them in some big way. Yeah, and Dave said the same thing. He was like, there had to have been some kind of deal

that happened that we don't know. Off the books. Yeah. That is infuriating. Yeah. And that's Dave said the same thing. He was like, there had to have been some kind of deal that happened that we don't know off the books. Yeah. That is infuriating. Yeah. What only got the arson and robbery charge. Honestly, I not only hope that he gets haunted for the rest of his life. I hope everybody in that deal involved in that deal also got haunted. I'm terracita. Teracita. You know what? But no, you know what? If that's what you wanted, you go ahead, but like live your afterlife. Yeah. Cause you know what? But no, you know what? If that's what you wanted, you go ahead but like live your afterlife. Yeah, because you know what? She said I can't move on until they know that he did it. So, hopefully she just got him to admit it.

Yeah, and then was like, now I can move on to you. Exactly, I hope she is like playing piano shows in the afterlife, streaming on her organ. Hell yeah. I hope that like men treated her better in the afterlife. Yeah, I hope she's singing out with her parents. I hope she's just like, I hope after life. I hope she's hanging out with her parents. I hope she's just like, I hope the best. I hope she's going to London sometime.

She's staying out and have some fun. I hope she like quickly dropped by Edward's house just to be like, just to scare the shit out of him. I have a mom, I hope so too. I would do that. Yeah, hell yeah. Wow, Teresita, what a wild story. What an infuriating story.

Truly. Because the fact that she invited him into her home and was invited him into her band, like thought he was a friend and that's what he did. That's how much of a friend she considered him. She was gonna have him being the band. She was gonna get a call. She trusted him coming into her house to fix this TV.

She was gonna comp him tickets. Like, she tipped him every time he drove over somewhere and she didn't actually really have that much money. And telling like her friends in the band I'd like oh, I have this friend, you know Alan is gonna be in the band. Yeah, like like like I want you guys Like here in the nation. Yeah, wow. I'm really well angry right now. You too great story though Wild story wild story And with that being said we hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it

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