Morbid - Episode 491: The Murder of Bridget Cleary

Episode Date: September 4, 2023

On March 15, 1895, thirty-five-year-old Michael Cleary murdered his wife, twenty-six-year-old Bridget Cleary in their home in Ballyvadlea, County Tipperary. While terrible, the murder was jus...t the last act in a series of bizarre atrocities committed against Bridget, whom her husband would later claim had been taken by malevolent fairy folk and replaced with a changeling.More shocking, however, was that the barbaric act hadn’t been committed by one man alone, but by a group of rural men, including family. Was Bridget Cleary really murdered out of fear of fairies? Or had Michael Cleary just convinced himself of as much in order to commit murder?ReferencesBourke, Angela. 1999. The Burning of Bridget Cleary: A True Story. London, UK: Pimlico.Freeman's Journal. 1895. "Strange death near Clonmel." Freeman's Journal, March 25.Irish Times. 1999. "Burning Bridget." Irish Times, August 7: B24.n.a. 1917. The Tipperary Witch Case. Toronto, ON: McGill University.New York Times. 1895. "A with burner sentenced." New York Times, July 6: 5.—. 1895. "Not witches, but fairies." New York Times, April 22: 4.Ruxton, Dean. 2016. "The story of the last 'witch' bruned alive in Ireland." Irish Times, November 24.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:38 I'm Alina, I'm Ash. And this't know why. I'm not morose. But it was also like, I don't know, it was kind of happy at the same time. It was. I'm pretty neutral right now. All right. So maybe it was like half happy, half morose, and that makes a neutral. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Like I went into this, I think, like in a pretty happy mood, and then I looked back over this case, and I said, oh, it's going to be a rough one. Oh, yeah. That'll happen on this show called Morbid. Yeah. This one's a little different today, though. Okay. So I'm going, this is shocking and very out of character of me, but we're going back
Starting point is 00:02:37 to the 1800s. That's not different. I love to be there. I just do. Be at the 1800s or B-square. Yeah, honestly. That's what I always say. The link is motto. Yeah, I'm going to get that. I just do. Be at the 1800s or B-square. Yeah, honestly. That's what I always say.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Slang is motto. Yeah, I'm gonna get that tattooed on me. But, today we're gonna talk about the really, really, really brutal and awful murder of Bridget Cleary. Oh. This has to do with like folklore and fairy. Okay. Folklore in particular.
Starting point is 00:03:04 That's kind of cool. Which sounds like it's gonna be like fun and whimsical and that like something will go awry and that's where it will get bad. But really the whole thing just goes awry. There's no whimsy involved. It is at all. That's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah. I thought there would be when I went into it, but nope, there's not. There's no ass. No whims. But you know what, we're going to get through it together because this is a rough one. And it's an important one to tell
Starting point is 00:03:28 because Bridget Cleary was like a badass lady. In the age she was like outside of the norm. She was like very successful and independent. Like she didn't need her man. She didn't need any of that. That's why they killed her. It was a problem, yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:03:42 To independent. But I think the story gets twisted a lot to like be something. It's not. And it's like, no, I think. But I think the story gets twisted a lot to be something. It's not. And it's like, no, I think she was just too bad ass for everybody. But this is a story, like I said, of a truly heinous, insenseless act of brutality and eventually murder. But again, full of fairies and fafook and magic
Starting point is 00:04:01 at the same time, but none of it is one cycle. Damn it. Roll a coaster ride. So the question here was, was Bridget Cleary really murdered out of fear of witches, fairies, or other fantasy monsters? No.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Or did her husband simply convince himself of this in order to commit murder for a more mundane reason, would you say? Yes. I don't know anything about this. I was going to say, I don't have the information, but I like your answer. Yeah. So let's talk about Bridget first. Bridget Bowland was born in, and I'm going to do, I looked up these pronunciations because
Starting point is 00:04:39 Irish towns are, who boy? Beautiful, beautiful sounding, but they don't sound the way they look. So she was born in Valley Vadeley. Okay. County Tipperary. Okay. I'm so sorry, everybody. She tried. This is like my ancestral background, but I don't know what to do. She was born on February 19th, 1869. A Pisces. There you go. She was the youngest born to Patrick Bowland in Bridget Keating. I want you to remember their names, especially Patrick Bowland. Does that sound familiar or no? No, just remember the name.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Got it. Baby Bridget. She grew up in an extremely rural Irish village. You said rural good. I did. Rural juror. I was able to say it. Yes. Bali Vadeley was only a little under 300 acres, which in the late 19th century had just
Starting point is 00:05:32 nine houses and had a population of 31 people. Wow, that's a little rural. I would say. Sadly, this was actually around a quarter of what it had been before the famine of 1845 to 49. Now, given the time period in the very rural environment, I keep saying it right. Look at you. So I'm going to keep saying it. It's really hard to say in my opinion. Little is known about Bridget's family or her early life. You know, like we can only get so much from it. Everyone was focused on the potato of it all. Yeah, exactly. But according to Angela Bork, who wrote the book, The Burning of Bridget Cleary. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah, a true story. That's a little spoiler alert for you. Yes, so. But I recommend that book. It's fascinating. She claims that the family lived in a tiny, wood mud walled, thatched cabin across the street from Patrick Bowling's sister, Mary Kennedy. Okay. Remember that name too? That is Bridget's aunt. As the youngest in the family, Bork notes that Bridget was more likely to be indulged with education
Starting point is 00:06:38 than her brothers were. And the whole thing. Because they were, they kind of had to be relied upon to be help with like the farming, with all the tasks of the day, you know. All the man list of. Yeah, so it's really, it's likely that she was the only one in her family with strong reading and writing skills, which was also kind of different for women at the time. 100%. And as she grew older, her education would come to include, again, what were considered
Starting point is 00:07:04 women's skills of the time, like embroidery, needlework, the really important things. But at the time, they were important because that's how she could make a living. Because as an adult, she made her income as a milliner, which she made hats for women. Oh, cool. Essentially. There's also sources that say she was, call her a seamstress, but I think it was probably around the same kind of thing. She was making a little bit of fixing and creating clothing and hats and all that.
Starting point is 00:07:28 So it was a multifaceted girly. Exactly. And not only that, she's a young adult now, she would use some of her income to send her father to help with his expenses. So she was out here making her own money through her own educational skills and sending that money to her father. Wow. Independent lady. But in the timeline and the reasons are unclear, but by the time she reached her late teens
Starting point is 00:07:54 or early 20s, Bridget's mother had passed away. And some of her siblings, a lot of them actually had either died or emigrated in search of work. So she was kind of, I don't know how her mother died, but she was kind of left with her father and they were really the only remaining members of the family in that area. A lot of that's really sad. It was really sad. It just kind of like family, just dispersed in different ways. Now despite being very successful as a seamstress slash milliner. People in the area often spoke of Bridget being,
Starting point is 00:08:25 quote, a bit queer, which means she didn't fit in. Because, you know, they basically kind of thought she seemed a little superior. She was new. She was like, more than them. She was just confident. I mean, it still happens today. Like, if you have any kind of confidence,
Starting point is 00:08:42 you're just a bitch. Like, that's the way it is. But especially when it comes to being a woman. Exactly. She also had like an amodest style of a tire. Amodest like a lot. Yeah. So she was wearing the like up to the chin stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:55 She was letting the... You know, check out my jacket. She was letting the tits flow free. I don't know. Free the titty baby. But either way, she was very much set apart from the typical Irish country woman attire of the time. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So I'm sure some people were like bad bitch alert, and then some people were like, she's a bit queer. It was probably the woman that were like, but your tits away. I don't know my husband to see. Exactly. And it's like blame him, don't blame her. Exactly. But in simpler terms, Bridget's success as a seamstress slash milliner and
Starting point is 00:09:25 a merchant, at that point, already set her apart from her at the time, very poor and rural neighbors. Right. But her difference was kind of underscored by the fact that she also was very open about her success, like she was proud of herself. She didn't. She's the people he did't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:49 She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:57 She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't be so, you know, don't be so outward with your success.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Don't be so boss bitch. Yeah. It makes me think of the Doja Katzong, I'm a bitch. I'm a boss. Oh, there you go. A bitch and a boss. That's Bridget. Bridget.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Trouble B. Yeah. Boss bitch Bridget. There you go. I like it. I like it. But she was brought up on a farm. She was brought up in a rural area.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So she had like a good relationship with that part of her life as well. She didn't totally neglect it. She didn't leave it behind. She didn't pretend it wasn't part of her daily life because it was. She was known to have kept chickens and she ended up supplementing her own income
Starting point is 00:10:39 by selling eggs at the market. She was a business woman. Yeah, she really was. She's just looking to make income anyway she can. And like, you had to. Yeah, so she was working as an apprentice at the market in the nearby town of Clonmole, I think it is Clonmole. This is when Bridget met her future husband, Michael Cleary.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I don't like him. He was a local Cooper and nearly 10 years older than her. She was already, yeah. So he was already established as a tradesman and they began, you know, courting each other I suppose. And they ended up marrying like a short time later because, you know, 1800s of it all. Yeah, courting was like five minutes and you were like, hey, we should get married. Yeah, you know why not? Let's have a kid.
Starting point is 00:11:20 No. In hindsight, people looked back at this relationship and we're like, they were a little of a strange pairing. They didn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, it didn't make a lot of sense, not just because of the age gap, which wasn't that big of a deal back then. Right. It was, and you know, depending on the age grouping, it's always like different.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yeah, yeah. But I think they just didn't match. Like, it didn't seem like he was very, he was very like understated, he was very quiet. Modest. Very modest. And she was kind of the total opposite, which you could say could be like a nice balance, it maybe it would work. But maybe not back then. It did not. You guys, hydration is not only for people like training for championships and doing marathons because you can bet your booty I'm not running a marathon anytime soon, but I do love the feeling of being hydrated.
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Starting point is 00:14:46 She... ... ... ... Um... This also didn't really help Bridget's whole like, she's a bit queer thing, you know? Like people would look at me like,
Starting point is 00:14:59 and they were like, oh, and this is weird too, that she's doing this. Like a stark contrast too, so it showed her differences even more. And then the way they went about things in their relationship, which shouldn't be anybody else's business, to be quite honest, but. Because she knows out of my bees,
Starting point is 00:15:13 whatever. Again, there's only like 30 people in the town, so it's everyone's business apparently. Also, what the hell else are you gonna do? I'm not gonna lie. That's the thing, what are you gonna do in their business? Oh, I am up in their business right now, so like I can't say anything, but I'm like, at the time,
Starting point is 00:15:26 I'm like, guys, come on. Yes, I'll die. I'll be in weird about what happened. But, you know, they're married now. Yeah. And Bridget and Michael spent the first few years of their lives not living together. That's a little weird, but like whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:38 But like whatever. I don't know. I who might say what works in your dam really? So, you know, like, I'm like, whatever. And, you know, Michael would, she lived at her parents' house with her father and he would visit her on the weekends, like stay at the house on the weekends. So I don't know if it was like a work thing.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I was going to say to the views traveling. Who knows? But Angela Bork, who I just named that book that everybody should read, said in those days, it was definitely because I was like, I don't know, was that not weird back then? I don't know what was weird back then but it was unusual for them to live apart from each other. That was an unusual thing. Yeah. Especially if they were relatively financially stable which they were. So they were like I
Starting point is 00:16:17 don't really know what that was about. But she says that Bridget may have had to nurse her mother at the time before she had passed away. Because we don't know the timeline of her death exactly. It gets put into different years. So this could have been during this beginning of their marriage, could have been when she was dealing with her sick mother. And that makes sense that she wouldn't want to move out in the midst of that. Yeah, it would make a lot of sense at the beginning. She just wants to stay in the house.
Starting point is 00:16:42 He's going to visit. She's going to take care of her mom until she eventually died, which we don't know when. Right. But again, while it's entirely possible that there's a very simple and normal explanation for this, rumors, of course, went quickly through the small town. Well, that's what you're going to do. Yeah, exactly. And there were many people who would later speculate that Michael had been having an affair with Bridget's cousin, Joanna Burke. Damn. All of these names are going to come back later. I was so they definitely had an affair as what you're telling me.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Um, so there was that. And in court later, he would vehemently deny having any type of relationship with Joanna. Yeah, I bet he would. You know, we don't know. But there were also rumors that Bridget was not exactly faithful to her husband in the weeks and months after her death. Many locals said that they believed that she was involved with a local emergency man named William Simpson.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Well, he sounds more exciting. So how about that? You know, it did sound exciting, but I looked it up. Blomp, blomp. Apparently, an emergency man is a guy called in by farmers to help save dying crops. Exciting.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So I still think it's so exciting. It's exciting, but like in a different way that I thought. Imagine if your crops were dying and then it would be more exciting. It would be exciting. Yeah. But Michael Cleary would later tell reporters
Starting point is 00:18:04 that he thought Bridget was having an affair with a local farmer named Patrick Power. So there's a lot of just scandalous, like desperate housewives kind of thing going on here. Like this is Westeria Lane, is that what it's called? Yeah, this is, that's the, still gotta finish that. You know she probably like showed one of them her ankle or something and they were like,
Starting point is 00:18:24 oh, they're fucking, that's a sec. And they were like, a fair, there it is. Now in the small village of Valley Vadeley and nearby Conmel, I think it's Conmel. I'm sorry if I'm saying that wrong. You're like my people, so I'd love you. Bridget's socioeconomic status, her youth, and her perceived arrogance could have been perceived poorly by the rural population.
Starting point is 00:18:47 In the telecast. Particularly women, unfortunately. Women don't ever like each other. Yeah, so Borg suggests the independence and economic prosperity enjoyed by Bridget. And you know, this emergency man, William Simpson, also did well in his business. They thought this could have been a jealousy thing that they paired the two of them together. Like they were both doing all right.
Starting point is 00:19:09 They were both pretty open about doing all right. They were arrogant. You know, people didn't like it, so they decided to fuck with them because he was also married. So they decided to be like, well, you two are fucking. Like that's obvious.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And it's like, no, I think they were just like both doing okay. Yeah. And maybe they talked to everyone so in a while and were like, you still you two are fucking. Like, that's obvious. And it's like, no, I think they were just like, both doing okay. Yeah. And maybe they talked to everyone's in a while and were like, you still doing okay? That's awesome. And people were like, yeah, it's definitely that. That's annoying. Much of busy bodies.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So I think that people do believe that that's why they became the subject of like a lot of slanderous. Because they were doers. Just because they were doing well and we're open about it. Shit, imagine if everyone that was doing well had an affair.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, the amount of fun affair's around. True, true. I mean, you're like, I mean, there are, but like, let me just work through that. Let me work through that in real time. Now, on the other hand, it's also possible the rumors of Michael and Bridgette's impidelity were kind of true. So, it's like he sucked. So, you know, yeah, it wasn't great. I don't think their marriage was on solid ground. Yeah, I don't think it was on any ground to be quite honest. It was in the sky. It was in a swamp.
Starting point is 00:20:11 But following her death, a lot was made of the fact that they were married for eight years at that time and they never had any children. Now now we would just go, okay, they made that decision or whatever, like that's just the way it is. Maybe they couldn't. But Angela Bork points out in her book that the church's influence on Irish life at the time made it that it's unlikely that they were childless by choice. Yeah. Because at that time, that wasn't a common thing to do to become childless by choice.
Starting point is 00:20:43 So there might have been a biological or a medical reason for this. But people looked at it as something's wrong here. Yeah, that's really stupid. And it's something within, you know, within this marriage and not something without... And within their control. Outside of their control. That's stupid. Now, and so there's like a lot of layers to this that just make it more complicated than just like, wow, you know, fairies.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Like it's like, no, there was a lot going on here. But in his testimony in court, Michael Clary described his relationship to his wife saying, we were not great at all. Oh, I think we could realize that. Yeah. And apparently, in Irish parlance at the time, this means that not only did they not get along, but they were not in love with each other. So this was pretty much him saying like we did not love each other.
Starting point is 00:21:32 It was a marriage of convenience. It's pretty evident from Michael's testimony that there was a lot of bitterness between them. It doesn't seem like Michael liked the fact that she was like a strong woman and independent and didn't really rely on him for anything. Which is strange because it seems like she was already very well established when they got married. She was. That's the thing. It wasn't like this was, you know, like newsflash or like her business took off while they were married or something. Yeah. And there was a lot of mistrust between the two of them. Because the town was always talking. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:05 There was also a lot, this complicated matters too, that Bridget was surrounded by family in the village, not so much her brothers anymore. Her mom had passed away, but like her aunts and uncles, cousins, or dad, they were all there. Johanna. And Michael, Johanna. Michael had no nearby relatives at all.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Oh, so he was jealous. So exactly. So in a culture, especially at the time that encouraged large, close knit families, this lack of one for him would have made him feel a little isolated. And the fact that they most likely couldn't start a family themselves.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Exactly. So he was just kind of at the mercy of her family. So he felt it was definitely a powerless thing and he did not do well with feeling powerless. And he didn't look at it like, hey, I've become part of this family. So I should just be part of this family. He took it, I think with him, it was a lot of,
Starting point is 00:22:57 he didn't handle feeling powerless well, which is wild. Some, also, he they like wait a second. But also, this entire family and support system for Bridget took her side all the time when they would argue. So I think that's a big Irish family. That's a big Irish family. They're going to be like, fuck you, Michael.
Starting point is 00:23:18 But that probably teed them off as well. Of course. And, you know, when this is all taken together, it kind of seems like their marriage was like a lot of conflict, a lot of jealousy, a lot of suspicion, a lot of bitterness, and a lot of loneliness. A lot of one-sided things. It sounds like they were both very lonely in their marriage, which is horrible. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Now, and people could see that there was like anger and bitterness, especially in Michael. They could, it wasn't outward, but they could just sense it when they were around them. And because of this, he was definitely more susceptible to some influence of the outside nature, especially. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like, he was, he was definitely looking for ways out of this and he wasn't looking for like a, a, a regular way out of this, for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Because divorce probably wasn't even like a word back then. Yeah, it's like, and it's like, dude, I think you both wouldn't find if you both just went your separate ways here. Like you would have survived the society issues. Like we didn't need to go here. Right. Now, on the afternoon of March 4, 1895, Bridget walked home from her belly vaidly home about two miles to kill them and not hold on. Kill
Starting point is 00:24:29 them and kill them and kill them and I'm going to go with that kill them and to the home I I wrote it out phonetically so I wanted to make sure I said it right kill them and I hate when I do that and then I'm like, when I know kids say I know my damn yeah, she walked to the home of her father's cousin, Jack Don. So another family member. She had gone to the house to deliver eggs and get payment from previously delivered eggs because she was trying to save families.
Starting point is 00:24:57 She's a business woman and you didn't pay me last time on collecting these eggs. But Jack wasn't there and his wife wasn't there either. Yeah, I bet they weren't. So she decided to wait for one of them to come back. She said, make good on my fucking eggs. I'm bringing you eggs. You're gonna pay me for the last one. Yeah, I'm not bringing you new eggs
Starting point is 00:25:15 till you pay for the last eggs. So I guess it was like sunny out. It was nice out, but there was a deep chill in the air that day. And Bridget was apparently, because remember, Bridget's not one for, to be very conservatively dressed. She was underdressed for the weather. So by the time she got back home, she was very cold shivering, like very much had a chill. Even sitting by the fireplace,
Starting point is 00:25:36 it didn't do anything to warm her up. And according to Angela Bork, the next day, Bridget woke with, quote, a violent headache and had fits of shivering and wasn't able to get out of bed. I was like, she has pneumonia. Thank you. You're welcome. In the days after this, the weather got warmer, but you know, I think it was like just damp.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Out like the earth was damp, which is not great when you're not feeling great. And so it kind of made her worse. And especially if she had pneumonia or bronchitis or something like that, it probably made it worse. So she was in bed for like the entire week after that. And during this time, especially in rural communities, people would come to your bedside, people,
Starting point is 00:26:17 all the time. Like it was, you were not gonna be alone in bed. And so she's bedridden and she got a ton of visitors and they came by to kind of help around the house, help with the cooking, you know, just to offer well wishes, just that kind of thing. She's got a lot of loved ones around. And one of those visitors was Jack Dunn, her father's cousin. Her father's cousin. So and this was also the man who she had gone to visit on the day she got ill. Which better have my money. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Now, of course, at this time, and this time in this place, like rural places like this, they were a little slower to embrace scientific and technological changes. Yeah, more than like, you know, their urban countrymen. Sure, sure. But by this, but honestly, even by those standards, Jack Dunn was an outlier here.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Like, he was even further back in the evolution of like, believing in science and technology. Okay. So, he was, as he's described in the book, a man who might have commanded respect in an earlier generation or a more remote place, but who had become marginalized and isolated in an earlier generation or a more remote place, but who had become marginalized and isolated in an increasingly modern society.
Starting point is 00:27:29 So he's a guy who believes in all the folklore and he's, you know, the, um, the folk medicine and all that. And he's staying very hard into that and not moving with the times. So people are starting to see him as kind of like, oh, that's Jack Dunn, you know, Jack the Quack. Boom. See, you want to kill Jack Dunn. You know, Jack the Quack. Boom. See, you would have killed it back then. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:27:49 She would have been out there being like, oh, it's Jack the Quack coming. They would have backed me immediately. I would have been killed on impact. On impact. Or just like shunned into the woods. It's true. Which would have been fun.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I was gonna say which would have been awesome. So a report in the cork examiner said it like this. At 55 years old, done is an old man and is ferry ridden. He's learned apparently in incantations, charms and spells and can tell ghost stories and fairy tales. He is the very Chinachi of ancient Ireland. Now I found out that that is what is referred to as just like a teller of old tales or legends.
Starting point is 00:28:29 A Chinachi. Yeah, that's fun to say. Yeah, and at the time when I read this, I was like, he sounds awesome. When you say that, he sounds awesome, but I can already tell that he's up to some fuxus. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, he sucks. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:28:41 most of the people here suck. Besides like Bridget. Yeah, pretty much. Johanna, I have her number. Jack, I have his number. Yeah. Jack, I was like, you had promise in the beginning, but whoo. No, he didn't, though, because he never even paid for her eggs.
Starting point is 00:28:55 That's true. So fuck him. That's true. Now, apparently Jack done truly was a very rigid representation of cultural heritage and traditions that had all but died out after the famine. Because before the famine, folk tales and superstition were treated very seriously, much more seriously than they were after. As is pointed out in the book, in another time, he again would be kind of an authority figure in the community, and he probably was at one point, but by the late 1800s, he just became eccentric. That's like how I agree.
Starting point is 00:29:31 He was kind of ridiculed for it. So he was kind of thirsting for that time when he was the authority on things. Look upon me again. Jack. Jack the back. And there was also, so the other thing that made him a target for mockery at this time was he held a genuine belief in fairies and their influence over humans.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Jack and his wife apparently lived near what he referred to as a fairy fort. That's a real thing. And he was frequently heard to say, quote, he heard the fairies outside his house every night, and that sometimes they played hurling matches there. Jack, honey. Now, a fairy fort was apparently a prehistoric
Starting point is 00:30:07 or pre-Christian dwelling of some sort that had kind of been like taken over by nature. And so it looked very super high fantasy and looks like a place fairies would live. Okay. I'm not saying they don't personally. No, I think I believe in fan shit. Yeah, so like let's go.
Starting point is 00:30:23 But like, I don't know if you like overtake humans though. I don't know about it. I'm gonna sit over here with my no knowledge of Fae or Ferry from the only thing I know is what we talked about in our episode though we did. Yeah. So I also know not to fuck with it, even if it's not real.
Starting point is 00:30:37 So, yep. Here I am. I don't know anything. I'm just out here reporting this. Yep. But he've truly believed in this, and that fairy fort was very real, and that's what it was. Again, it sounds awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I'm into this. Sounds awesome until it's not, I feel. Exactly. Now, again, much of Ireland at this time was embracing the modern era. So this was weird, too. Yeah. I mean, they were like, you need to chill out.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But a belief in fairies was also at the time kind of a means of explaining some part of life that didn't make logical sense. Right. For example, like if this man, if a random man, like your neighbor, was known to have walked with a limp for his entire life. And then all of a sudden, he's gone for a short period of time and he comes back and he doesn't have that limp anymore. And he was the doctor. No, he did not. They most likely would have said there had to be some magical explanation for this. What you get?
Starting point is 00:31:38 I don't know. I wasn't in the 1800s. But in Jack Dunn's experience, Bridget Cleary had always been very well put together. She was a merchant, she was a seamstress, a business woman. She was independent, she was confident, she was together. So to see her so unwell and so, quote unquote, weak and bedridden and uncumped in her bed as well, particularly after she had been near his ferry fort
Starting point is 00:32:07 in his home, had sat outside next to it. For a while, it made him very stressed out and he apparently cried out when he saw her. That is not Bridget Bowland. Why? So, like, sir, she sat in the damp cold air. We know what happened here. Next to a ferry fort. No, she's right into him cold air. We know what happened here. Next to a ferry for it.
Starting point is 00:32:25 No, she's waiting to him. Shut up. Now, if this were, anyone else there that had said that, they probably would have interpreted that as just like, a way to say she looks very ill. Like, that's not her, that looks, wow. Like, she didn't seem like herself.
Starting point is 00:32:40 But coming from Jack, they're like, oh shit, that's not bridge. It was interpreted to mean that is not bridge of glory. That is not bridge of Poland. And it's this moment that likely started to seal the deal here, because even though he wasn't looked at as an authority anymore, him saying that with such like conviction,
Starting point is 00:33:02 I think at least set a couple of people, if not one, in particular, Michael Cleary, into a little bit of a tizzy because he already had some thoughts, I feel. So real tizzy or a fucking put on tizzy. Exactly. Now, in fact, the cork examiner later wrote, quote, dunes remarks set all the fairy machinery in motion. So they fully were like, it's him, they did it. But it's like, let's not take all the stuff off of the person who actually does it and we'll get there. Okay. So to a lot of people, Bridgette was fucking sick.
Starting point is 00:33:36 She had bronchitis, she had pneumonia, she was just sick. That was it. But Jack Dunn was like, nope, there's clear evidence here that she is a changeling, which is a human-like creature that's left behind by fairies after they stole the actual person. This motherfucker just didn't want to pick up his egg tab. That's true.
Starting point is 00:33:57 He just wanted that egg tab to be open. Honestly, I think that's all it lines up for for him. And well, here's the thing. To anybody around who, he was not the last person there to believe this stuff. It's not like it was totally gone and everybody was like, oh, yeah, that's all bullshit. Why do we ever believe that in the beginning?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Like, this is through generations people believed this stuff they still do today. So it's like, there were people there that still at least kind of believed in this. And if he's sitting here going, I'm the authority on this. to suggest that you're swaying people who are already in a state of like, what the hell is going on. So according to them, her case checked all the boxes of a person who had been away with the fairies. Away with the fairies. Like, for example, Bridget and Michael
Starting point is 00:34:40 Cleary had experienced a period of uncommon prosperity before she was ill, and this was after her being at the ferry fort. So this indicated that she had maybe traded her health for wealth. Now, I think she was wealthy before either. I think so too. Now, also, they'd been married for eight years. They were remaining childless. So some people thought that that meant she had exchanged her ability to bear children for economic prosperity. Yeah, as one does, totally. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And finally, Jack Dunn said several times that the creature in the bed had one leg that was longer than the other. Remember, the creature in the bed is bridgeable. And also, people can have one leg that is longer than the other. You absolutely can, but he said this was proof that Bridget had been changed after her interaction with the fairies. I would just like to point out that your best friend Debbie is sitting here and one of her legs is longer than the other. Faye, you're a fairy get out of there. You're a changeling.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And they would have said that. You're a jackdunnel. Look to your ass and what has said you're a changeling. Which is which? You're a witch. And while Jack Dunn ranted about, you know, she's a changeling, other members of the community were expressing serious concerns for her actual health. Because I'm glad there were some people like that.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Because at this point, she wasn't seeming to be getting any better. So people were genuinely like, what's going on here? Well, pneumonia back then, I'm sure they didn't have a way to treat that. Exactly. Like a good way to treat that. Exactly. Like a good way to treat it. Right. Now on March 9th, Bridget's father, Patrick Bowland, walked four miles in the heavy rain to get the doctor, Dr. William Creen.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Don't be too impressed by him. Um, physician who provided medical care to the poor and destitute, which was shocking to me because she was not their poor or destitute. But several days passed and Dr. Kreen did not respond, did not come to the home. Because he was busy with the poor and the destitute. Probably. So Michael Cleary went to go get him, but was only able to leave word with a neighbor that Bridget was still very ill and they needed to see the doctor. Was there no other doctor? I guess he was the only one around that they wanted to talk to. So a few days later, Michael returned again in hopes of finding the doctor, but he still couldn't find him. Meanwhile, William Simpson, the guy that she was supposed to be
Starting point is 00:36:53 having a affair with, the emergency man, he sent one of his maids, because remember, we're not porn destitute here, his maids to drangon to fetch father Con Ryan. And he did this, which it kind of implicates that she was close to death and needed last right. Last right. Yeah. Like while so you know, or at least needed a priest there to perform some sort of if need be stuff. So like this, this would implicate that, but that really wasn't the case. Now on March 13th, so four days after he was first contacted, Dr. Kreen finally made his way to the Clary House. Dr. Bourdays. Imagine just having to go find a doctor. Yeah, just go find a doctor. He has to come find you. Right. Right.
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Starting point is 00:39:03 Okay. So, Dr. Creen prescribed a medication for Bridget, but he never followed up after the visit. That's a poor doctor. So he also didn't know if the prescription ever got filled or if it was given to her. As far as he knew and what he told the courts, he said Bridget was perfectly healthy.
Starting point is 00:39:19 She had a body of good physique and well nourished. The only thing I can say is that she was awfully nervous. And he keeps saying that she was very anxious, very nervous. Probably because everyone's saying she's a fucking fairy. Well, when you hear what happens to her later, I'm like, yeah, probably. It's most likely that Bridget had probably caught like a nasty cold on or around the time she was visiting Jack Dunn's house, because she probably didn't get it there. She was probably just developing it. And I'm sure the cold didn't help the dampness and all that.
Starting point is 00:39:50 And that probably developed into bronchitis, which likely went into pneumonia. That's like pneumonia will knock you on your ass, especially in the 1800s. Well, there wasn't a lot to do about it, right? Later, in fact, a post-mortem examination said the corner reported that the only evidence of illness was that her lungs were slightly congested.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Okay. So it does indicate that. And also, I guess what they were trying to say too was they were like, okay, so she has congested lungs, but there was all these other symptoms that were coming out. So what they're trying to do is kind of be polite about it, but like Dr. Crane essentially wrote in his report when he saw her, that basically whatever illness was plaguing her was likely something, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:35 in the chest area, but it likely could have also been like slightly psychological in nature, because he was pointing to her anxiety. It's all like, you know, that kind of thing that maybe she was suffering from some of that as well. Maybe whatever, if it was pneumonia or bronchitis or whatever was going on, that was also making her nervous. Maybe she was, she was getting kind of over,
Starting point is 00:40:57 over upset about everything. And it was, he probably, Michael Cleary probably wasn't being like a great caretaker. So I'm sure she was also stressed out. Yeah. So I think he was pointing a little to that, that like there was some psychological stuff happening here, but they don't say it outright. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Now, given the autopsy results, it's entirely possible that Crenes assessment was accurate. And it actually seemed at the time that she was close to considering Jack Dunn's claims of like the changeling thing with seriousness. So that leads me to believe that there's definitely some psychological stuff going on right now, because she told her cousin, Johanna, that it all started when she quote, took like a trembling coming by kilnament, kil in a, meaning that she kind of believed she caught a chill down by the ferry fort.
Starting point is 00:41:49 So she was at least mentioning that she was near a ferry fort when this happened. So if we really think about it, like if we take a step back, it's like, okay, yeah, I think what I think happened was she was probably developing a cold anyway. She was down there. It was damp. she sat out there, tits out, and she probably caught like a little more of a chill. It probably developed in a bronchitis pneumonia. It was making her stressed out. She's hearing Jack Dunn say that she's changing.
Starting point is 00:42:21 She's seeing all these people questioning whether she's really Bridget Bolandling in this bed, which is probably stressing her the fuck out. And now she sold her ability to have children. Exactly, so now she's probably sitting there and being like, well, it wasn't here for her. Like what the fuck? Like, did I fuck her? She's probably getting scared now.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Like, yeah, this is deep rooted folklore that she has heard of all life. She was like a child, yeah. Yeah, it's like, no matter what, she going to be like, fuck, is this real? Is this what is happening right now? Now, it was unfortunately clear that after a week of being sick and the fairy talk on top of it, there was beginning to be that psychological toll. She told her aunt, Mary Kennedy, I'm very bad.
Starting point is 00:43:02 And she said, she's making, and she and she's referring to as to Michael Cleary. He's making a ferry of me now in an emergency. He thought to burn me about three months ago, but if I had my mother, I would not be this way. And don't worry, I'm gonna explain to you what she probably meant by that. Okay. Because when I first read it, I was like,
Starting point is 00:43:21 come again. Yeah, like what? So Bridget wasn't referring to Jack Dunn. She's referring to Michael Cleary when she says he. And that's her husband. Yes. And according to Angela Bork, to make a fairy of someone,
Starting point is 00:43:35 actually could also mean to isolate or reject them. Okay. So this is kind of implying that under the growing influence of Jack Dunn, Michael Cleary was starting to isolate his wife and blow her illness way out of proportion, which was making it seem far worse than it really was. And she also notes that the phrase he thought to burn me about three months ago implies that this wasn't the first time the couple had dealt with an argument or crisis like this. Okay. So that there was some shit that was happening before this. She doesn't kind of... She doesn't actually mean burn her? No, they think at least that's what the... That's what the like is thought to be what she meant by that. That's interesting because from the
Starting point is 00:44:20 name of the book it sounds like he does burn her. Thank you. Because then that's the thing. Like, nobody knows if that's, because there is different ways to take that when you look at language and what it was back then. But then when you look at what happened. When you look at what happened in the end, you're like, did she mean that? But I don't know. And then what does she mean?
Starting point is 00:44:36 And what does she mean? Because I can't really. About her mom. I think she's just saying if my mom was here, like, she wouldn't let this happen. Yeah, like, I think that's part of it, which is really sad. Basically, the distress and emotional stress that was referenced by Dr. Kreen was the result of Bridget's belief that Michael's behavior had some sort of nefarious intent,
Starting point is 00:44:58 that this wasn't him caring and being influenced. It was him wanting an end game here. A means to an end. And that she's referring to possibly the idea that they had been in that argument or crisis before and that he had possibly tried to get rid of her. That is a possibility. Like, who knows if it means exactly that? That's terrifying. So Michael Cleary left the house shortly after Dr. Crane and he was still away that afternoon when Father Ryan actually ended up coming to the house. And he got back just as Father Ryan was leaving. Now, according to Cleary's testimony,
Starting point is 00:45:33 he went by Father Ryan as he was leaving. And this is when he was informed that Bridget was very weak and that the priest had already prepared her for death by giving her her last rights. Wow. So this is like shocking, like they're like shit. And in the days following later, after Cleary was arrested later, a lot was made of Father Ryan's assessment of Bridget's health
Starting point is 00:45:57 as so dire that he had to give last rights, especially because Dr. Kreen's opinion was that she had a bad cold that turned into pneumonia. And she was like, why is she suddenly on the, on the, on death store. But Bork explains in her book that as a Catholic priest who took his vows very seriously, father Ryan's vows celibacy, quote, forbade him to have any more dealings
Starting point is 00:46:20 than necessary with women. So it's unlikely that he spent even more than 20 minutes with her. And was probably in very poor lighting. Others were around. Everyone's in an emotional heightened state. So while Cleary reported Father Ryan as having made dire predictions about Bridget's like impending death, he never considered her to be dangerously ill instead. He likely administered last rights as a precautionary measure, in case it did progress,
Starting point is 00:46:52 and he couldn't get back there in time. Oh yeah, and he wasn't gonna want to have to come back. Cause she's a woman. Exactly, he's like, I don't want to spend any more time with women than I have to. So he probably did it like just in case, she seemed pretty fucking sick right now.
Starting point is 00:47:04 So like, I'm just gonna do it so that it's there. Yeah, but Michael Cleary took it as like she's dying. So when Dr. Cree and father Ryan saw Bridget Cleary that day because it was on the same day that they saw him. Both men recalled her being way more emotionally upset and agitated than physically ill. Because she probably had her husband talking about hitting her. I've got killing her. Yeah. And this was supported later by testimony from friends and family who visited that same day, that it was way more emotionally upset than physically upset.
Starting point is 00:47:34 And while both men did what they could for Bridget, Crane gave the prescription and told them to fill it and give it her and Ryan did the last rights and prayers and all that good stuff, which probably upset her even more. If she's thinking that she's feeling better and that and Ryan did the last rights and prayers and all that good stuff. Which probably upset her even more if she's thinking that she's feeling better. And then like, she's giving her last rights, like Jesus. Yeah, literally.
Starting point is 00:47:51 But they kind of didn't give Michael Cleary the answer he was looking for. So it was kind of like, it was just kind of Dr. Kreen saying, yeah, it seems like it's bronchitis, pneumonia, like take this prescription, I'm sure she'll be fine. And then father Ryan being like, no, last phrase. She seems like, you know, she seems pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I just did this just in case. That's very, all of that is very unclear. So it's like, you could just have taken Dr. Kreen's word for it, but like, who am I? But Michael Cleary took it as like, this is very ambiguous. So he looked over to Jack Dunn and was like, you know what? Fade is.
Starting point is 00:48:28 That seems more likely. Or did it just seem simpler. Now while most of those who saw Bridget in the days just before her death remarked on again, her agitated emotional state, far fewer seemed to notice Michael Cleary, who was deteriorating into a madman at this time. Like he was becoming more and more wilds with his thoughts, with his actions, because he's hanging out with the quack jack. Yeah, exactly. Or jack-to-quack.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Exactly, whichever you prefer. Yeah, he wasn't looking at it, and it soon became clear that he was not going to look to traditional medicine to help his wife. He was not going to fill that prescription. He was not going to get further medicine. Oh, no. Which probably would have just helped her.
Starting point is 00:49:13 He probably would have gotten out of bed in a couple days. And that's probably what he was hoping would not happen. Exactly. And then fortunately, the premature last white rights reading by Father Ryan. Send things further. For the edge. Put that in.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And again, they were on the same day. So they're back to back things on the same day, which just sent him into a different round. And Tizzy. Now, acting under Jack Dunn's influence, Michael Cleary went to the market and federed to get several herbs that he thought would improve her condition.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Now, after Dr. Creen and a father Ryan had left, Dunn had chastised Michael for waiting so long to take action. He was like, I can't believe you even had these two men in here. Like, why are you having a medical doctor in here? He doesn't know anything about Faye. And why did you have father Ryan in here? He doesn't know shit about Faye either. Like, you're not taking the right action.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Okay. Yeah. He said, it is not your wife in there. This is the eighth day, and you had a right to have gone to Gainey on the right action. Okay. Yeah, he said, it is not your wife in there. This is the eighth day, and you had a right to have gone to Gainy on the fifth day. And we'll tell you that. And we'll tell you that. So he's making reference to Dennis Gainy,
Starting point is 00:50:13 who was a local farmer and herb doctor who had a very strong belief in fairies and folklore, just as strong as Jack Dunn. So later that evening, they went, got the herbs from him and they gave Bridget the first dose of those herbs. And I'm going to explain to you in a little bit how they gave her those herbs. Now, the following day, the herbs didn't seem
Starting point is 00:50:36 to have any effect on Bridget's health. They weren't helping her, which, wow. But Dunn and Cleary were going to go ahead with their full plan. They were not willing to accept this. And that afternoon, Jack Dunn, in Cleary were going to go ahead with their full plan. They were not willing to accept this. And that afternoon, Jack Dunn, Michael Cleary and two other young men gathered in Bridget's room with a glass of milk. They put the herbs in there, they mixed them up. And in his testimony in court, Dunn said, quote, the four of us caught her and I had her by the neck. It was very hard on her to take it.
Starting point is 00:51:05 So while Dunn is essentially admitting he and the three other men violently forced a bridge to drink the liquid, he's just minimizing it until it was tough on her, but it took it. And it's like you poured it down her throat, you bitch. Yeah, and he's saying I caught her, which indicates that she was running. That she was trying to get away from that.
Starting point is 00:51:23 So I'm like, there's way more to this story of what they were planning to do to her. Oh, and it gets worse. Because as they were forcing her to drink this milk with herbs in it, William Simpson, who she was accused of having the affair with, the emergency man and his wife, as well as Joanna Burke and her mother, they all came to the Cleary's front door is Joanna Burke and her mother. They all came to the Cleary's front door and were coming to visit Bridget. But Michael Cleary refused to open the door at the time so they could just hear what was going on inside. And from the bedroom, they could hear a man's voice shouting, take that, you rap. And then they were banging on the door, being like, let us in. No one was coming so they just could stay out there and try to get in the house, but they were hearing the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And they said, a moment or two later, they heard another man shouting, take it, you old bitch, or I'll kill you. Oh my God. Yeah. So four or five minutes later, Michael Cleary just walks up to the front door and lets everybody in. Well done. Everybody welcome.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Nothing to see here. And this is, when they stepped in, they were like, what the fuck? And they said as soon as they stepped in, they heard another man shout, away she go, away she go. And later, William Simpson would tell the court that Cleary had claimed the house was full of fairies
Starting point is 00:52:38 and that he had only opened the door to force the fairies out, not to let them in. What the fuck? Yes, I told you. Now, it's very sad. It's fucked up and sad. I don't think they thought she was a fairy. I really don't think they thought she was a fairy.
Starting point is 00:52:58 It's really brutal. Now, when Simpson finally, William Simpson, made his way into the bedroom, he said he found the men aggressively restraining Bridget, who was struggling, and Jack Dunn was pouring the hot milk and herb mixture down her throat. Oh my God. Like forcibly.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And as Bridget was struggling, Michael Cleary held his hand over her nose and mouth to make sure she swallowed it. Oh. Because Dunn was telling him, if it went on the ground, she could not be brought back from the fairies. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:53:27 So the Simpsons would later learn that this was actually the third time that they had administered the herb mixture in this way. This was the third time they had forced it down her throat. And they're forcing milk down her throat when she has bronchitis or pneumonia? Oh, and it gets worse because during... One woman was at the... I think it was during the second time, the time before this one. She had actually sustained a burn on her forehead
Starting point is 00:53:52 because Jack Dunn struck her with a hot fireplace poker in order to force her to drink the mixture. What the fuck? Yeah. Also remember, these are her family members. Yeah, this is like her father's cousin. Now throughout the force feeding of the herb mixture, the men gathered around the bed were repeatedly shouting at her, are you Bridget Bowland, wife of Michael Cleary in the name of God?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Okay. And when she wouldn't or should I say couldn't answer them because remember, they're forcing hot milk with herbs down her throat and hitting her in the head with hot pokers. Done her it was her to say make down a good fire and we will make her answer. Oh my god. Now finally when the fire was burning, the men, the and it was burning low. The men got Bridget off the bed and carried her towards the fire. Now she has been abused, but she is fully conscious and aware of what's happening. So she started to yell for them to give her a chance.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Because I'm sure she's like, just, I don't even know what you want from me. Like, just let the, like, put me down. And the men just ignored her and placed her body on the grate above the fire at the kitchen fire. Oh, my God. And William Simpson later told the court, she gave no evidence of being in pain.
Starting point is 00:55:06 She did not scream. And it's like probably because she was in shock, I would assume. Now, she's crumpled up on the great over the fire and her father is there, by the way. And her father looks at her and says, are you Bridget Bowland, wife of Michael Cleary, in the name of God? And this is when she spoke and she said, I am Dada, I am the father of Pat Michael Cleary in the name of God?" And this is when she spoke and she said,
Starting point is 00:55:25 I am Dada, I am the father of Pat Bowland in the name of God. I'm the daughter of Pat Bowland in the name of God. And after about 10 minutes, they removed her from the great and put her back in bed. Oh my God. In the fact that she called him Dada. Yeah. It's important also. It makes me think of your kids.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah. It's important to note that among the things that made this story so fucking shocking to the public was that during this whole thing, there were like nine to 13 people in the house who witnessed and participated in all of this. And at no time did anyone do anything to stop it? Or help her.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Oh, horrific. So she lay in bed and she's arriving in pain, she's mumbling in coherently. Now she's essentially been like beaten. And at this point, she's writhing in pain. She's a mess. And the men around her were described in court later as being more relaxed than ever, including her own father. And William Simpson later told the court they were satisfied that they had their own, which implies that they believe their actions were successful in that they had magically returned Bridget to her body. Okay, so then why did they need to go further?
Starting point is 00:56:35 So the following morning, Michael Cleary went to see Father Ryan and explained to him that Bridget had a very difficult evening. And he was hoping that the priest could come pay her a visit. I like how he describes it as a very difficult evening. Okay. And at some point during the night, apparently Bridget's clothing had been changed
Starting point is 00:56:53 and her body cleaned. So there was no obvious evidence of her abuse. Father Ryan said mass in her bedroom and then left. And he later told the police that Bridget appeared definitely more nervous and it's overexcited than she had been previously. But he said that he didn't see anything that indicated she was in danger. Like nobody was acting strange. As he was leaving, he asked whether Bridget
Starting point is 00:57:16 had been given the medicine that Dr. Kreen had prescribed. He was like, you know, she doesn't seem great. So like, is she- Did you give her anything? And Michael replied, people may have some remedy of their own that might be the right way that Dr. Kreen had prescribed. He was like, you know, she doesn't seem great. So like, did you give her anything? And Michael replied,
Starting point is 00:57:27 people may have some remedy of their own that might do more good than Drs. Medicine. And he was like, okay. Incorrect. And the rest of the afternoon was spent by various visitors stopping by to check on her. And later that evening, Bridget apparently was feeling a little stronger.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And she got out of bed by herself, dressed herself, and sat by the fire with a neighbor, Tom Smythe. When Smythe asked how she was doing though, Bridget seemed very agitated, and told Smythe that she was, quote, middling that he was making a ferry of her now in an emergency, which accusing her of being a change in. Now, Bridget's anger was very clear that day,
Starting point is 00:58:09 towards Michael. Like, she was very angry, very upset. Many of the visitors remarked on it later. They said they could very much tell that. And that evening, apparently Joanna Burke, Patrick Boland, her own father, Mary Kennedy, her aunt James Boland, her own father, Mary Kennedy, her aunt, James Boland, which I believe is a cousin and Patrick, or no, excuse me, it's James Kennedy, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:58:34 and not the DJ. James Kennedy and Patrick Kennedy, who were her cousins, they all sat at the table with Bridget and Michael and she was served some bread and jam with some tea, and she ate two pieces of bread, and then Michael Cleary, which you know she's sitting there being like, honestly, everyone shut the fuck up. Because Michael Cleary, she's eating her jam, and drinking her tea, and Michael Cleary says, are you Bridget Cleary my wife in the name of God?
Starting point is 00:58:59 Oh my God, I'd be like, yes, I'm your God damn wife, but not for long, because I'm gonna kill you my wife. Literally, Bridget didn't answer, because she's like, well, you just let me my fucking jam and drink my tea, yes, I'm your God damn wife, but not for long, because I'm going to kill you my soul. Literally, Bridget didn't answer, because she's like, well, you just let me eat my fucking jam and drink my tea. Like, everyone leave me alone. She did. She became pissed.
Starting point is 00:59:11 She was like, shut the fuck up. And then Michael became enraged that she wouldn't answer and forced her to eat the third piece of bread. Oh my God. And then threw her to the floor. In front of her entire family. Now, Joanna Burke, I will say, was screaming for him to stop.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Okay. But didn't, I mean, nobody intervened here. Everybody was just like yelling. Michael then stripped his wife of all but her nightgown and took a flaming stick from the fire, held it near her mouth in a threatening way. Oh my God. And was telling her to declare that she was Bridget Bowland. Holy shit. Like he didn't put it in her mouth, but he held it there in a a threatening way. Oh my God. And was telling her to declare that she was Bridget Bowen. Holy shit. Like, he didn't put it in her mouth, but he held it there in a very threatening way. Because when does a fucking say this?
Starting point is 00:59:49 And immediately what I thought something immediately, and Angela Bork seems to also agree in her book, that the details of this part of the crime are reported like that, that this is how it went. But there's a sexual sadist act, the aspect about this that I think is underplayed, and I think wasn't reported upon as much. The fact that he stripped her down in front of everybody
Starting point is 01:00:14 and then holding that to her mouth. Yeah, I don't like that. Like he's gonna shove it into her mouth. It's like there's something about that that seems way more sadistic than anybody's given a credit for. And I think Angela Bork is kind of pointing to that too, being like, I don't know about that. I know about that. I know about that.
Starting point is 01:00:30 But in also each of these attacks on Bridget, we're seeming more like at this point, not to kill her, but to put some kind of terror into her and dominate her. That seems to be this motherfucker felt powerless and he snapped and decided to assert what he felt was an unbalance in his relationship. Is what I think. And any time he said, are you bridged a clear wife of Michael Cleary?
Starting point is 01:00:59 He wanted her to say yes, I am. I am your wife. That's what he wanted to do here. He was looking for, he wanted to dominate. And he wanted to put terror into her. That's, I am. I am your wife. Like, that's what he wanted to hear. He wanted to support in it. He was looking for, he wanted to dominate. And he wanted to put terror into her. That's what I wanted to beat her down. It certainly feels that way. It doesn't feel like he's sitting here acting out of love and compassion or anything like
Starting point is 01:01:16 that and some kind of, you know, disillusion that he's, you know, some kind of hysteria. I think that plays into it because he was in a state, but I think this is more about him feeling for a long time, less than in his marriage, and he decided to assert it this way, which is unbelievably fucked up. Yup. Now, this escalated very quickly, the scene of violence. According to witnesses, they said it was awful. And they also said this was really scary to witness in general, but also that Michael
Starting point is 01:02:03 Cleary, before this, was a very unassuming man. He was quiet. He wasn't outwardly violent. He wasn't loud. He wasn't abrasive. He wasn't any of this. It sounds like he might have been more violent behind closed doors. That's what I wonder.
Starting point is 01:02:16 If he was all behind the scene. And she had previously said before this, and even happened that he was trying to make a fairy of that. Yeah, and it's like, hmm, because he became so enraged during this that he knelt on her chest, and she was begging him to stop. And nobody knows, and I'm not going to speculate because I was not there. Nobody knows if what happened next was the intended end here. But what happened was he was holding that stick that he had taken out of the fire.
Starting point is 01:02:47 And he's kneeling over her very menacingly. He's trying to terrify her. He's trying to hurt her. He's trying to assert dominance. He used to do her. In flames from the stick that he was holding from her face like fell onto her night dress and it caught fire. And engulfed her in flames.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Oh my God. Now, this is where I say to me, this sounds intentional, because right here, you can go, okay, that seems like it went further than was maybe intended. But Joanna Burke later testified that Michael Cleary grabbed a nearby lantern and threw lamp oil over her body. Before that, before she caught fire or after.
Starting point is 01:03:31 No, like while her nightcown was going up and slain, he ignited it more. That's why like, and after this, you can absolutely say that he intended for her to die. Wow. Because he didn't help her. He threw the lamp oil on her. The fire grew very intensely. And Mary Kennedy, her aunt, ran to help her. But Michael stopped her and shoved her to the floor. Oh my God. Now, she then, that he shoved them all out of the house and trapped Bridget in the house, locked the door and put the key in his pocket.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Witnesses are yelling for him to help his wife. Like everyone there is like, help his fucking, like, are you kidding me? And he was shouting, she's not my wife. She's an old deceiver sent in place by my wife. And he said, as I begined it with her, I will finish it with her. You will soon see her go up the chimney.
Starting point is 01:04:24 So he was saying like, she's a changeling, she's a deceiver, she was sent here. That's not her, you're gonna see her go up, like the changeling go up the chimney, and you'll see it. Okay. That was what he was saying. When anyone tried to go in there to help her, Michael was threatening them,
Starting point is 01:04:40 saying he would burn them as well, if they attempted to help her. And she's just laying on the floor on fire at this point. And he's in the house with her? Yeah. OK. Now, Bridget died this way. And nobody knew what to do.
Starting point is 01:04:55 It just completely stopped at this point. And Mary Kennedy, her aunt, wrapped the body in a sheet and left the room, didn't know what to do. And when she came back, she found that Michael had put Bridget's body in the fireplace to try to destroy her remains. Oh my God. Why is everybody going to get a policeman? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Now, she said the house was full of smoke and smell. She later said. Oh, yeah. Now, later, when they were all in the kitchen again, Michael Cleary said she's burned now. And God knows I would never do it, but for Jack Dunn, I would never have forced my wife into the fire, but for Jack. It was he who told me my wife was a fairy.
Starting point is 01:05:32 So now he's trying to save you. That's not me. Jack told me to do it. It's like, no, dude, you let your wife on fire and struck her way before that you fucking piece of shit. Yeah. Now, Michael Cleary collected his, Bridget's remains in a bag.
Starting point is 01:05:45 And Patrick Kennedy helped him. And they both took her to a nearby church yard to bury her on consecrated ground. That night, Cleary forced all who were involved to swear that they would never talk about what had happened. Sounds like that. And if anyone asked, they were told to say that Bridget had gotten dressed that evening
Starting point is 01:06:04 and left the house, and they just never saw her again. Oh yeah, she just like walked away with pneumonia. Now, throughout the entire thing, what's weird about this and what makes you say there was more to this than just like somebody who was caught up in hysteria? Michael Cleary was pretty ambivalent when it came to his beliefs and fairies. In witchcraft. Like in the moments directly after Bridget's death, he kind of seemed to recognize that Jack Dunn was like a quack.
Starting point is 01:06:32 He had like a lot of rhetoric that he was spewing, and that he was saying, well, that's what led me to do this. Like it's already placing the blame. He was kind of taking his own belief out of it, which is wild considering the length he is claiming to have gone to rid her of this changeling that had taken over. So it's like to me, I'm like, you're conflicting your own reasoning here, and you're making it more obvious
Starting point is 01:06:56 that there was a lot more intention behind this than just a hysterical fear of changelings. Yeah. And in fact, but then I say ambiguous because it's going back and forth because there's that. And you're like, I don't know, you're telling me that you really don't believe that stuff. And it was Jack Dunn who set you up on this.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But then for three nights following her death, Michael was said to have waited on Kill the Man a Hill for her to return from the ferry fort on horseback, because that's what the legend said. Was that after you kill the changeling, the real human will return on horseback from the fairy fort. Wow. So everybody's like, was that, you know, was that just for show or what was that?
Starting point is 01:07:39 Well, because exactly you could look at that either way, like he truly believed it or that he was doing it to maintain that. So as he was waiting, the police were alerted to Bridget's disappearance by William Simpson. You think they were fucking? I gotta do. I hope they were. I hope they were.
Starting point is 01:07:57 He seems like you at least tried. But then also a day after that, Joanne Burke went to the police and told them that she was disappeared. I was mad at her earlier, because like you were in a face. I know Burke went to the police and told them that she was disappeared. I was mad at her earlier because like you were in a face. I know you were leaving the shrine. And I don't mean to, but I just didn't know how to stop it. So it just happened.
Starting point is 01:08:13 You know, but justice for Joanna. It's true. Now the police spent a lot of days looking for her. I mean, by the same coin, nobody stepped in and helped this or stopped the abuse. Like, yeah, there was a lot here for Joanna. I mean, by the same coin, nobody stepped in and helped. This or stopped the abuse. Yeah. There was a lot here. For Joanna, I'm going back because I'm like, oh no.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Because she couldn't have stood up to the men. Like they would have just been hurt. And again, I wasn't there. So I can't sit there and say that Joanna didn't try to do something. Exactly. It didn't seem like a lot of people were doing making great vast efforts to stop what was going
Starting point is 01:08:46 on here, which is very disconcerning, but I'm not going to sit here and crucify anyone in particular, except for the people who actually did. Mm-hmm. Exactly. But based on the information provided by William Simpson, Burke, and several others in the house that night, they did make nine arrests. They set out nine arrests of warrants on March 21st. And Michael Cleary and all his co-conspirators
Starting point is 01:09:10 were arrested for the assault and murder of Bridget Cleary. Now that included Patrick Kennedy, Dennis Ganey, the former and herb doctor who prescribed the herbs, Jack Dunne and Joanna Burke. Mm-hmm. Because again, they were there. Yeah. The following day, March 22nd, which was a week after her murder,
Starting point is 01:09:29 Bridget Cleary's remains were discovered. They were buried in a shallow grave on the grounds of the Abbey and Drington. I got she must. I can't imagine. Yeah, I must have been found really bad. Now, the news of this whole thing spread very quickly. It actually made its way to London,
Starting point is 01:09:43 the United States, very quickly, because it was just wild. And it was reported as a witch burning, very sensationalisticly. But in the British press at the time, we're very eager to hold this up as evidence of how rural Ireland is so barbaric, which it's not great. And,
Starting point is 01:10:07 you know, the Irish papers were equally quick to blame the murder on folkloric beliefs of the Irish peasantry, ignoring the fact that very few of the people involved would have been considered peasants at all. So it was a lot of misrepresentation, a lot of sensationalism. Reporting into the amount of this. The day after the arrests, a lot of sensationalism. Reporting at your home out of this. The day after the arrests, a coroner's inquest was held in cloning, I believe it is. At this time, Dr. Kreen and Dr. W. K. Heffernin provided the jury with details of the post-mortem examination. So there was obviously extensive burning and charring of Bridget's body. But Dr. Kreen and Dr. Heffernin also found an abrasion
Starting point is 01:10:46 on the inner side of the lips at the right side of the mouth and the tongue at the side was slightly lacerated. Huh. Yeah. So they don't know where that came from or what happened? Maybe when they were forcing the milk toner possibly or that poker that he held to her mouth.
Starting point is 01:11:00 And to her mouth. Did she did he do that at some point? They also reported that other than the obvious burns, the evidence suggested that Bridget had been perfectly healthy when she died. And the cause of death was attributed to shock caused by burns. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah, which is even more horrifying. On April 1st, 1895, all nine defendants were brought before the magistrate and charged with maliciously wounding Bridget. Michael Cleary, Patrick Bowland, Mary Kennedy, James Kennedy, and Patrick Kennedy were also charged with murder. Wow. So like her own father was charged with, like that's just so like, ugh.
Starting point is 01:11:40 This is a very interesting news. No one helped her. And the trial began in early July and, you know, everyone testified that it was Michael clearly who was directly responsible for the death. But the testimony from witnesses were kind of conflicting and contradictory at times too. Everybody was saying something different. And Cleary would shout out in the middle of the court a lot. He would have a lot of angry responses, outraged responses. One paper described him as having a wild kind of look
Starting point is 01:12:10 in his eyes during the whole thing. I bet. And during the prosecution's questioning of Joanna Burke, who testified about what happened on the night of a murder, he jumped to Michael Cleary, jumped out of his seat, and shouted, I can't listen to it any longer. Like he had nothing to do with it. When it came time for him to testify,
Starting point is 01:12:29 he just kind of confirmed though what the witnesses had said, explaining that based on what he was told by Jack Dunn, he and his neighbors, you made sure to include them, had attempted to drive out the changeling with herbs and fire, believing that in doing so, he would cause the changeling to flee and return his wife to the bed.
Starting point is 01:12:48 That's what he kept. He maintained that. And although he definitely attempted to pass the blame on to Jack Dunn, like he was like, without Jack Dunn, I wouldn't have done this. Right. And he was like, it was because of his beliefs and fairies
Starting point is 01:13:01 and witchcraft, not me being an awful person. Well, I didn't believe it, but I did burn my wife alive. Everyone else though tried to minimize their role and just pointed right at Michael Cleary and said it was all him. Yeah, I mean, he's the one that fucking litter on fire and then threw lamp oil on her.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Exactly. And a lot of people said the motive while a lot of witnesses said that Cleary's mind was going astray, for sure. They said he definitely becomes somewhat hysterical. They said they believe that may have made him more susceptible to this whole fairies and changeling rhetoric that was being spewed. Now, even after all the testimony that have been heard, though, it remained unclear what exactly happened. Like, how did this go here?? Like it got here so quick, what happened? But it was like it just happened so quickly.
Starting point is 01:13:49 That's the thing. It was like a runaway train. But what was clear to the jury was that, although Michael Cleary had been the one directly responsible for the death, there were others whose participation in influence had definitely contributed to the outcome. Like Jack. Even the judge in the case felt that murder
Starting point is 01:14:06 was in an inappropriate sentence and reminded the jury that they alone had the right to recommend a sentence of manslaughter, which they chose to do in the end. Are you fucking kidding me? He threw the oil onto her as she was already burning. Thank you. I agree.
Starting point is 01:14:25 So the fuck doesn't understand that concept. Michael Cleary was sentenced to 20 years in prison. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Joanna Dunn, Patrick Kennedy, James Kennedy, and William Kennedy were all found guilty of malicious wounding. Dunn was sentenced to three years. He needed more. William and James Kennedy with sentence to three years.
Starting point is 01:14:45 He needed more. William and James Kennedy were sentenced to 18 months and Michael Kennedy to six months. Michael Kennedy definitely obviously received the harshest penalty which he should have. But while so many others may have avoided the lengthy sentence, that doesn't mean like jail sentence. That doesn't mean they got out of it.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Don't worry because they definitely got it when they got out of prison. Good. Upon his release from prison Jack Dunn's reputation had plummeted into the Earth's crust. One would think. He was seen as a laughing stock and obviously someone who was involved in creating this hysteria, hysteria that led to the murder of an innocent woman. We'll see you like, she's down the tone. Pretty much. And Mary Kennedy, her aunt,
Starting point is 01:15:34 a voided prosecution for her role in the murder, but when neighbors learned about the details of what had happened and that her sons were also involved, they burned the Kennedy House to the ground to make sure they couldn't return. Wow. Which didn't Mary try to help her? I mean, yeah, but it was like too old to late.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I mean, I think people heard a lot of stories, and I think there was, there's a lot of, like, unclear parts of this. Like when the whole herb mixture was being force fed to her, when she was being violently abused during her illness, who was there? Right. There were some, some of them were there. Right. And they didn't stop it.
Starting point is 01:16:17 And it's like, you're, that's guilty, man. Mm-hmm. But because somebody could have gone to the police. Somebody could have gone to somebody, but like, this is happening in this house, somebody needs to go stop it. Like go do something. Nobody did.
Starting point is 01:16:30 So on its face, it definitely sounds like a sensational story of murder, motivated by kind of outrageous beliefs at the time. But it's kind of more complicated than that because it has a lot to do with where and when it, like it really has to do with where and when it like it really has to do with like the time and place. Yeah. Less about like the reasoning, I guess. Like it's it's it's strange. There's so many layers to this one. You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely. Like the press at the time also was a wild part of the story
Starting point is 01:17:00 because as particularly the British newspapers at the time. Because they were using it. Yeah, they made a lot of the folkloric beliefs that were involved, like they really went to those. And they kind of placed those kind of hard, steadfast, somewhat archaic beliefs at the time. They placed them on an entire rural population in Ireland. And just used it. What it seemed like they were on their way out.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah, and they used it to portray these people as very superstitious, very antiquated, very like, wow, they're just going to burn you at the stake if they think you're a changeling kind of thing. And at the time, it was also like this kind of language was used like fairy language and witches and kind of folkloric language was used in Ireland a lot. Yeah. But it also was used metaphorically, not so much, like, for real.
Starting point is 01:17:47 For real. You know, like, as, like, Bork points out in her, in her book, that the term gone to the fairies can absolutely be used in the literal sense, and it was used in the literal sense. But in Bridget's case, it was likely referring to having an affair or stepping out of the house kind of thing into like make a fairy of me. Like Bridget said, doesn't mean that, you know, making me like he's making people believe I'm a fairy. It's isolating her. Like we said from others and, you know, making people treat her like she's sick and rotten, like something that you don't need to be around.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And again, the press coverage definitely in the trial really didn't really entangle any of the true motive behind this, but Angela Bork's books suggest that the language and circumstances of those involved might be where we can find the keys to what happened here. Like she says, Michael Cleary had no relatives close by and says, for over a week, his wife's relatives had been in and out of the house shaking their heads
Starting point is 01:18:53 and making dark insinuations about her condition. A suggestion that she was away with the fairies was a serious reflection on him and their marriage. So that's all to say that Michael Cleary was already an outsider. He already wasn't surrounded by his own family. He had come from another county, which meant he didn't have a lot of social support here. His wife had a huge social and familial support network. And he took it all away. And she was also independent. She supported herself. She didn't need him. She didn't need to rely on him
Starting point is 01:19:30 Which is all great and like people should look at that is like what a bad bitch But not like good for her you guys can just love each other and live your lives Nobody needs the other one to live, you know what I mean like you're just doing this because you care about each other but There's the other part where like there was all these rumors of her having an affair and him having an affair and all their marriage talk and all that stuff. He was being very, you know, feeling very powerless at the time. And so they kind of feel like that was likely the real motive was the feeling of powerless and wanting to dominate her, wanting to take back that power, wanting to be the man of the house. You're my wife. You're not this, you know, wanting to take back that power, wanting to be the man of the house, you're my wife,
Starting point is 01:20:06 you're not this, you know. And you'll answer to me, you will answer to me when I ask you to say who you are, you say you are Michael Cleary's wife. You don't say you are just Bridget Bowland, you are my wife. And I bet because she answered when they wanted her originally to say, you're the wife of Michael Cleary, she said, I'm the daughter of.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah, and of her father. I am the daughter of Pat Boland. And I have that. That's the only thing she would really answer about. And that in, in and of itself is so telling. Yeah. That one almost forced into a fire. She still wouldn't say that she was his wife. Yeah. And then you have the other side of that with Jack Dunn being this other piece of the puzzle where he was also feeling powerless and feeling like he was not the authority anymore because he believed all these archaic folklore things and he used to be the authority
Starting point is 01:20:56 and these things would have made him powerful and would have made him somebody that everybody came to to find out what was going on. He doesn't have that anymore, another feeling of powerless, and it's really scary to think about, but it's true that that could have absolutely been part of this, that it's two unfortunately two men in a time when men are supposed to have all the power
Starting point is 01:21:19 and all the influence and all the handhold on the home, and they didn't, or they felt they didn't. And so they decided to assert it in a very violent and horrific and tragic way. I mean, Jack, there, for lack of a better term, added fuel to the fire physically and theoretically. Yeah, I mean, it's very clear that Bridget Steth was not simply about fairies.
Starting point is 01:21:44 No, and I think that they're really imagined. No, and I think there's a lot of things we don't know that happened behind closed doors before her death. Yeah, I don't think Michael Cleary necessarily, quote, unquote, one insane. I think sure, you could say that he definitely did it at some point. Falling to some kind of hysteria. Maybe, but I think he may have been on his way there before that. No, before the fairies even happened. Her death was about power.
Starting point is 01:22:11 Definitely. Who had it? Who didn't have it? And in this time, especially, Bridget clearly had achieved stuff that most rural women at the time in Ireland especially wanted and were striving towards she was successful, she was independent, she was powerful. She was going to Jack Dunn's house to collect some payment because she gave you the goods. It's like she was on it, she was like a business lady and she was murdered for that.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Unfortunately, that's the end of it. I think that's really where it all boils down to. Ferrys are no fairies here. And it's a really sad story, but a very interesting one. He just went to prison. That was the last anyone heard of that. I don't know what happened to him after that. He died of brutal death. Yeah. Sayin. Just sayin. And I think I'm trying to think because I remember hearing about this story a long, long time ago. I've never heard this one. I think Aaron Manky did it on lore. Oh, and one of the early lore episodes, I think. So if you if you were interested by the story and you want to hear a different telling of it, Aaron make, he does a really good job at telling stories and you should go listen to it just because he rules.
Starting point is 01:23:30 So good to go. And he does a new podcast as many. He does. Yeah, you posted about it on Instagram. Yeah, he has a podcast that he just launched recently called That's Just Weird. And it's like a family friendly thing, but it's also like, he like, and it's short.
Starting point is 01:23:45 Yeah. It's short little like bite-sized episodes. I think they're like 17 minutes. And he just talks about like weird phenomena, weird history, weird news, and like, you can listen to it with your kids. Okay, cool. I almost checked that out. I haven't yet. It's very cool. You should listen to it. And we'll go listen to it. I'll just show it. Just shout out Aaron. Hey, A-Ron. A-Rong. All right, well, we love ya, and we hope that you keep us in it. And we hope you keep it. We're gonna have to wear that you kill your wife
Starting point is 01:24:11 and blame it on fairies, because I don't believe you Michael Cleary. I think you're a giant an asshole. An asshole. An asshole. Giant an asshole. Bye. Thank you. Hey, Prime Members! You can listen to Morvid, Early, and Add Free on Amazon Music.
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