Morbid - Episode 51: Countess Elizabeth Bathory

Episode Date: March 14, 2019

Countess Elizabeth Bathory died in 1614 but the legends surrounding her life and crimes continue to live and breathe today. Perhaps better known as "The Blood Countess" today, she is possibly one of the most prolific serial killers to exist in history. Or was she a powerful woman who was taken down by those around who for political and financial gain? The facts are more terrifying than the myths in this case, guys. Drain your bath tub, grab one of your castle staff members and get ready for some coagulation because Elizabeth is bloody terrifying. A great resource for this episode was "Infamous Lady: The True Story of Countess Erzsebet Bathory" by Kimberly Craft See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And I'm just making that face again and it's breaking me out. That's cute. So we don't have a whole lot of business to get to this time around, even though it's been a minute. I know, it has been a minute. It's been a minute. And Ash is here. She's alive, everybody. I'm in one piece.

And you are also sweet. Guys, seriously, thank you so much for all your messages and your kind words. You guys are the best. You really are. I was like, oh my god, there's a lot of people that care about my well-being. I knew it too. I was like, I know our weirdos. Yeah. Just surround you with love and weirdness.

I'm fine. No major in job issues. She's alive, she's breathing, so that's good. She's in one piece. But she had some well-needed rest before we recorded it again. Rest in relaxation. Because we wanted to be 100% for you. I wanted to be a thousand percent. Whoa.

Over. Oh, fucking the cheever. Here I am. Over here. Here I am. Besides that, the only thing that really happened this week that was crazy is, and everybody has been messaging us about it because they know how much it pissed us off,

is the Chris Watts confession. I've read most of it and then I had to stop. I didn't read it because it is one of the worst things I've ever read. I don't know if I could ever read it. I also think he's full of shit. Yeah. And I think that he's telling a different narrative to sound like cooler. I mean, just starting off with him straddling his pregnant wife and like them talking for a while like no like that didn't happen to like when you're pregnant you're like no she also wasn't lying on her back I don't know because you know what if she was like here's fact little science fact for you when you are pregnant laying on

your back compresses your thoracic aorta. Thoracic. Or excuse me, your abdominal aorta. Abdominal. I mean, abdominal. And when you compress your abdominal aorta, it makes you nauseous. So, nausea. So, no pregnant woman is laying on her back for any length of time if she doesn't have to,

because even when you get like ultrasound done and stuff, you can get nauseous just by laying on your back for that long. And then you barf on the ultrasound. So that already was bullshit. And then he had to add in this whole big thing about his poor little daughter's last words to him and shit, which I'm like, you're, and then he's like, I just, and he's trying to put it on his wife for saying that you'll never see the kids again. Okay, well first of all,

a lot of divorced people have heard those words before, and they don't murder their spouse. And also, if you were so upset about not seeing your kids again, how come you murdered the muscle? Like, what, what? That doesn't make any sense. Like, you're just a vicious murderer who wanted to start a new life with your mistress. That's all it was.

How do you, first of all, just come forward and say, How do you, first of all, kill your wife? Like that, I can't wrap my head around. But how do you murder your children? That's half of you. You created these human beings. Look, I don't get that. These human beings look to you for everything.

Everything. And they trust you implicitly. I just like that thing blew my mind. So, did he ever, I know there's no reasonable explanation whatsoever, but in that confession, did he say why he killed the kids? Like did anybody ask him? No, he just said he snapped. He doesn't understand why he did. So basically he's totally removing responsibility from himself and he's going to say that he just snapped and he was in a blackout state. But somehow he remembers every horrible detail of it. Interesting. Where it can happen. So literally Chris Watts, Burnin' Hell, and besides that, I'm sure where I know a lot of people have been asking about the Colorado mom, Kelsey Bereth, for updates on that.

I think we might do maybe a mini episode on that because a lot has come out. So I'm not going to touch upon it now because people get mad when we talk before the case. So I'll cut it now and we'll just go into the case and you'll get that in a mini episode. So yeah So let's just get into this is gonna be a big episode guys Hopefully we get through it in an appropriate amount of time. Also, let's just apologize ahead for any mispronounce words Yeah, there's a lot of Hungarian stuff in here and I myself am not Hungarian nor am I Ashes not either. We are late. We're very American. So I am doing my best.

I know I have a couple of them correct, but there's gonna be a lot that are incorrect. And if we have any Hungarian listeners or people who just know more about Hungarian language than I do, feel free to tell me. I always appreciate when people tell me what, you know, the things I've forgotten. I don't feel strong. Because I really do appreciate it because I learn things.

So today's episode. Today's very Hungarian episode. It's brought to you by... Elizabeth Bauteri. She's a murderer. Now I know some people might be saying Elizabeth Bauteri. Who's that? It's Elizabeth Bathery. I thought her last name was pronounced Bathory, and I'm sure a lot of other people do. But thanks to Aaron Manky of lore, he taught me, not me like, like by my-

No, he literally taught me like a private lesson about this. But on his podcast, I learned that it is actually pronounced Bouterie. Bouterie, which is interesting. Because hangarian language, you kind of like say the two parts of Bathory separately, that's how you get Bouterie. Oh, Bouterie. Yeah, cool.

So it's interesting. So Elizabeth Bouterie, also known as the Blood Countess, the original Dracula, and the bloody lady of catch-tease. That's how I'm known. Yeah. The bloody lady of Coutice. I think the bloody lady of Couch Tease. Couch Tease. Yeah. That sounds better. That's my title. I might be saying that wrong. I know. I'm OG. Just to start this off, I know a lot of, well, I say a lot of people, I mean a lot of true crime fans know who Elizabeth is. I don't.

Ash does not. But I think a lot of people, because a lot of people were psyched here this episode, so people haven't had any idea. I got a ton of emails. A lot of people know one main fact about, or one, they think they know one. Being fact about her, because I also thought that this was like, indisputable fact. But it's not. So, a lot of things that are said about her

are completely true, and they're backed by multiple witnesses, records, all kinds of stuff. But, the idea that she bathed in blood has never been confirmed. No witnesses claimed it. But has it been denied? And it would actually require

like a lot of work for just one bath. I would think so. You want to know how I know that? You tried it. I did the bath. Okay. That makes me a little more settled. I should have just been like yes. No, get ready because I'm gonna hit you with some science right now. Oh yay. Because whatever I can do that. I do it. So science slash math. Yeah, science math. So, SAF. A standard bathtub holds about 80 gallons of water. Wow, that's a lot.

I'm not sure if this was the same time, same kind of thing back in Elizabeth's bathroom, but she was rich as fuck and certainly would have a nicer bathtub than most anyone else at the time so. It even could have been larger because even on the larger side bathsubs can be like a hundred to a hundred and ten gallons. So sticking with the average 80 gallons, there are eight pints in a gallon. There are about nine to twelve pints of blood in a woman woman human body, depending on body weight and mass. It's nine to 12. If you're a little larger, you're gonna have 12.

High in some blood. Yes, if you have 14. I'm kidding. So any average sized woman would have about nine pints of blood in their body. Wow. This means that you would need roughly eight or nine average women's entire supply of blood to fill one tub.

That's a lot. Yeah. Of course, Elizabeth wasn't killing average age women. Right. So that doesn't quite work. She was killing young girls. She liked them around the ages of like 10 to maybe, at the age, all this maybe 17 at the time.

She's from what I've found. Most of them were in the 10 to 14 year bracket. And how much blood does that person have? Well, this would put their blood volume somewhere around seven points. So that means that Elizabeth would need about 11 and a half servant girls in their entirety to fill one bathtub. And how many people did they think she killed? Well, she killed, I mean mean that number fluctuates and we'll get into that more but like some people say she killed 600. Oh shit. She was officially convicted for 80. Wow. That they could, that people, witnesses were able to like actually say that happened. So she would

need seven girls per one tub. But that's, it's one tub. No, she would need 11 and a half serving girls for just one tub. Oh wow So that's a lot of work for one fucking tub and that would mean she only took about eight or nine tubs exactly And that's absurd and would also mean that she couldn't torture them first Which was her thing her thing was torture and pain. That's her it wasn't just dead people like that wasn't it wasn't just dead It wasn't just death. It was torture and pain. That's right. It wasn't just dead people. Like that wasn't... It wasn't just dead. It wasn't just death. It was torture. So, because to lose any blood through torture before emptying it into the bath, it would mean that you would need even more girls to fill just one tub.

So, I guess she could suspend them above the bathtub and have them tortured so that all the blood fell directly into the tub, but that's, I mean, that's just a lot of work. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. I'm coming up with something, I don't know. There's also the problem of viscosity of blood versus water. I'm doing these calculations based on the viscosity of water, but blood has a viscosity that is likely three to four times higher, so that changes the volume.

And viscosity is just thickness. Yeah. And how it flows when when met with a certain velocity. Okay. So this whole thing would take a variant amount of time as well, because depending on the artery use slice, the blood will flow faster or slower. So if she cut the aorta, then sure, they would drain quick and she would get her bathtub. But if she didn't, it might be slower and slower from there and who the fuck has time for that.

Right. You're just gonna sit there for hours while this person bleeds out over your tub. So that's just something to me that says she probably didn't bathe in blood. Yeah. Maybe she smeared it on her skin. Maybe she did put it in like bottles,

like some people think and like put it on her skin to keep herself beautiful, because that's the whole that's the whole blood facial is a thing. Yeah So maybe she did that I could see that because there are and we're going to see it later in some of the testimonies I have that were on record that she did Torture people women girls actually to the point where they said that you could scoop the blood off the floor and like handfuls So it is possible that she had people scoop up blood for her and put them in bottles. I mean who knows? I really liked your crime a lot, but blood makes me like queasy. I don't mind blood. Well it doesn't bother me. You're a fucking mortician obviously.

I'm not a mortician. What are you? I'll tap seat technicians. Same deal. No, very different. Two opposite sides of the death pool? What's a mortician do? A mortician prepares the body for burial. So they embalm. I was thinking they don't they don't do like all the I was thinking what I would do. There you go. And I also was thinking that people call you morticia. They do. That's true. So let me start this off just to give you the I'm gonna give you I'm gonna do that thing where I give you the end of the story Oh, I like I like story set up like that. Yeah, I fate it would this one. It's like it's fun Yeah, so let me start this off with an actual letter written by count Yorhi

Yorhi Yorhi There's a lot of shorhi in this we practiced we did it goes Yorhi Yorhi So this is this is written by Count Yorhi Thurzo. Excuse me. I don't know why I said excitedly. What time period is this? This is in the 1500s. Okay. Yeah. Excuse me. To the 16th, like early 1600s.

Okay. Who was sent by the King of Hungary to investigate the many rumors and claims surrounding Elizabeth Bouteri's sadism in love of torture and murder. Great. My greetings and updates, beloved heart, I arrived here at Yulee. I think yesterday evening in good health, thank God. I apprehended the Nattestee woman. That's Elizabeth Because nasty the nasty woman. No, the reason that she's called the Nattestee woman is because that was her husband's Last name she actually didn't end up taking his last name because her rank in society was higher than his

So she was like bitch. I must stay about to read which I was like with for you. Until she became a murderer. I mean, she's a dick, but like, good for her. I mean, she's a dick. Alright, by now she has been led away to the castle above. Now, those who tortured and murdered the innocent, those evil women in league with that young lady whose in silent cruelty assisted them with their atrocities were sent to Bittka. They are under guard and will be held in strict captivity until God willing, I arrive home to bring the just strong justice they deserve. The women can remain imprisoned in the town, but the young lady must be confined at the castle. As for our people and servants that I brought with me, when my men

entered Sistia, Sistia manner, they found a girl dead in the house, another followed in death as a result of many wounds and agonies. In addition to this, there were also a wounded and tortured woman there. The other victims were kept hidden away where the damned woman prepared these future martyrs. I am just waiting until this cursed woman is brought to the castle, and the other's destination is determined. And then I break away in hope, if the way permits that I make it home by tomorrow, may God grant it, I have written this in the greatest taste. 30th December, 1610. Your loving Lord and spouse count, Yorhi, Therzo. Hyorhe. So this takes place in the 1500s to the early 1600s.

OK. Fun little fact, Bouterie means good hero. I doubt she was. The word for brave in Hungarian is also butter, a bouter. So this is a little fun fact. That her last name means good hero. So this is just going to be a tiny bit of history about Elizabeth and her family,

just so you have an idea of how huge this was that she was such a fucking maniac. The Bouterie family was divided into two different branches, the Bouteries of Smolio and the Bouteries of Exead. So in the 16th century, Hungary was divided into two competing claims to the throne, which was the ex-set branch of the Bauteri family. They sided with the Hadsbergs. The Hadsbergs organized the election of Archduke Ferdinand of Austria as king of Hungary. So that's who said they were on. Okay, so they recognized him as like the rightful king. Yeah, like they were trying to get him as the king got it But the Somalio branch

Supported Janos Sis Polia. Yeah, I believe it is and he had been elected king by the Hungarian nobles Okay, so this means that the ex-head branch and the small-yo branch of the Bouterie family work basically against each other. Okay. For who was going to take control of Hungary? Got it. Now, this seems like it's going to be like, fucking crazy, like a war.

But the two branches of the Bouterie family became united. And it was a political thing by, and now Elizabeth's name in Hungarian is Erzabet. Cool. Just says a little factoid. So they became united politically by Elizabeth's parents, Hiorhí and Anna. So he, we got to Elizabeth. They united because Hiorhí,

Hiorhí of the ex-head branch, decided to change his allegiance from the Hadsbergs to the Sospolia. So he changed allegiance. Yes, he changed the legions. So he decided to go with the guy that most of the nobles wanted as the king. Okay, which seems like a good way to go. Exactly. Always go. The nobles go. It is said that he renounced this allegiance because he wanted to marry his quote, Transylvingian cousin, Ana, of the Smolio branch. Oh, they were cousins.

Lots of imbreeding in the Bouteri family. Yeah. Which caused a lot of fucked up shit to happen with Elizabeth's mind. Clearly. As you'll see it, because she started being kind of like Cucunutman early. Oh, that's my favorite expression. So Cucunut Lady. So, Jorge was really looking to strengthen his alliance with Anna's brother, István, because he had been appointed Voidvad of Transylvania under the Cis-Pol-ya branch.

So, Voidvad is like a leader of a force, like a military force. Yeah, like a military force. So, they let the army in. So, it's like a big, powerful position, like a military force. So they let the armies. So it's like a big, powerful position. Woodvant. Woodvant. This is very confusing, I know. Sure is.

But in the way he accomplished this was he married Anna. That's how he was going to get István, her brother on his side. Okay. And when he did this, he united the two branches of the Bauterie clan. So this is where they came together. Anna Bouterie was the originally the widow of the last descendant of the Drag-fi family.

So the two of them took over the Drag-fi castles when they got married. That's cool. Unfortunately, the Hadsbergs, who he removed his lines from, ended up taking those castles eventually. So, Hiori and Anna had to go run to the Sitzvah. Yeah, to the Sitzvah castle. In the county of Zemplen. And later, they also had the Bouterie family estate in Exead. Okay. Those two estates are important just because Elizabeth eventually will take control of these things. The Hadsbergs and the Boutaries, because the Hadsbergs at one point had like an alliance with part of the Boutery clan, but in marrying Anna, he fucked them up.

He took that allegiance away. So now the Hadsbergs are out on a limb and it's the Hadsbergs against the Boutaries. this this tension would keep going for like generations. It was a long running feud because they're all vying for power in central Europe. Like this is all a power thing. And it's all who they think is the rightful. Exactly. So this is like a huge conflict and born in the middle of all this was Elizabeth. Elizabeth, Bouterie. Elizabeth. That's a cool idea. That's a cool idea. Elizabeth, Bouterie, was born August 7th, 1560. She was born at the, ex-aid family estate,

which is located in what today is would be known as, Negexed? Yeah. But in those days, they called it ex-aid. Got it. And it's not far from near Batur, hungry. It's near Batur.

Near Batur. So Erzabet came from a very powerful family, obviously, because her parents were from the two separate sides of the Boutary family. You know, Yorhi, like we said from the exit branch, and Anna from the Smolio side of the family. family. They were like smack down in the middle. Yeah, so she was born into wealth power and All that comes with it. In fact, just to like put it into perspective Her uncles on both sides of the family were void vods of Transylvania and

Her maternal grandfather was also void vod of Transylvania. Her uncle grandfather was also Voidvod of Transylvania. Her uncle Isvan was also the king of Poland. Oh shit. Her cousins Andras, Gabor, and Zigmund were also would also eventually become Transylvania in princes. Wow. Yeah. Zigmund is a cool name. I know that is a cool name.

So she comes from like a big powerful family. You don't say. She also had an older brother, István, a brother, Gabor, and two younger sisters, Zofia and Clara. Zofia. Not a lot is known about her siblings. Because they're probably like, we don't know her. Meanwhile, so meanwhile,

Turkish invaders were like coming into Europe by like the millions. During this time, Hungary was divided into three portions, southeastern Hungary and a large part of Trans-Denubia were under the control of the Turks. Western Hungary fell under the Hadsberg control. And then Transylvania remained pretty like neutral. Transylvania, the ruling people in Transylvania were basically like, we'll just go with whatever we need to at whatever time. Right. So in addition to the tension between all of these three ruling powers,

there was also like a huge Protestant reformation in Europe. So, I mean, there was this long Mike Turks clashing with European Christians Catholic and Protestant European peons were also going at each other. So it was just like a big religious just Yeah, so that there's a lot of shit going on with a when Elizabeth is young and she's seeing a lot of it and like a lot of violence A lot of violence a lot of just like brutality a lot of just war and like fighting and she's seeing a lot of it. And like a lot of violence. A lot of violence, a lot of just like brutality, a lot of just war and like fighting. And she's like, cool! And she witnessed brutality and chaos from a very young age.

And mental illness did run in her family because of the intense inbreeding. Yay! So around the age of four or five, Elizabeth had pretty violent seizures. Oh. She was obviously never diagnosed because at that point they don't know what that is, but she definitely had epilepsy. Oh, well, for sure.

Can that cause brain damage? I mean, if you have, if it's left on her, and she didn't. Yeah. And later in adulthood, she would write in journals and letters about head and eye pain that was very severe, which to me says probably migraines. Yeah. So she probably had epilepsy and suffered from like severe migraines. That's horrible. Early in her childhood, it said that this is a pretty crazy story that a lot of people who have read about her probably have seen. It said that Elizabeth witnessed a peasant being punished by being sown alive inside the belly of a dying horse.

Wait, excuse me, what? Yes. They sowed him of a dying horse. Wait excuse me what? Yes. They sewed him alive to a horse inside the belly of a dying horse. They'd say sewed him to the horse. I'm like the fuck. They sewed that motherfucker to a horse? I'm like what is that dude? No they sewed him inside the horse. Cut the belly of the horse open. Shove him in there and then sewed him inside the horse. Cut the belly of the horse open, shoved him in there, and then sewed that. So he was just in a horse's belly.

What the fuck? Who comes up with that? Indeed. Why didn't we talk about that in our main torture? I know. Well, and by all accounts, young Elizabeth giggled uncontrollably at the side of the man's head sticking out of the horse's belly

before it was sewn up completely. Yeah, that's not funny. Yeah. She thought it was a fucking knee. Yeah, that's not funny. Yeah. She thought it was a fucking knee slap, or she was like, this is great. Yeah. So there's that. Um, in 1514, she also witnessed

Hiori Dosa's execution. Hiori is like a very big name. I was like, her dad? Dosa was, and I'm probably saying that around so, my pal. It was the rebel leader of the group of peasants who were rising up against the nobility at this time? Hell yeah! When he was caught by the crown, he was dealt with in a pretty night marriage man. I would assume so. And she watched.

Well, was it? He was executed by being roasted alive. Oh no. An illustration from a 16th century Hungarian almanac actually shows this as his reveling captors placing a red-hot metal crown on his head. He's bound half naked to an iron throne and hot coals were being shoveled beneath his seat to ignite the throne and heated up and he's naked sitting on it with a like you know burning lava hot crown on his head like in Game of Thrones they literally were like oh you want to be king there's a the iceware he must have got a lot of George R. Martin got a lot of shit from

this this case out so he had a lot of accomplices and they were all around him some of them were being impaled and the ones that weren't being impaled were being force-fed his flesh Before being broken on the wheel and hanged. You know, I just got nausea Little Elizabeth watched and was like cool. This is like last week how you were like people used to bring that stuff up shit This is what I'm saying and then sometimes you get a Elizabeth Bouterie out of it. Yeah, you're like what could you expect? Yeah sometimes you get Elizabeth Bouteri out of it. Yeah, you're like, what could you expect? Yeah. Now interestingly, it is fact that Elizabeth received an amazing education.

Oh wow, so she was crying up. Her family strongly believed, which is kind of crazy for the time, that a girl should be as educated as a boy. Wow, that's awesome. Which is nuts for the time. In fact, she was trained in the classics, mathematics. She could read and write in Hungarian, Greek, Latin, German, and even Slavic.

Sure. Yeah. And she also appears to have been interested in religion and occultism, but on the other side of that, she was really into sciences, astronomy, botany, biology, anatomy. Like, she was into it. She was really well, she was brilliant. Right. And you see it later. And this was, this was something she did throughout her life. Like she was a full like I want to learn till I die kind of person. I mean, she ordered various books from

merchants. She would ask fellow nobles to lend her books, which is crazy for like a woman of that time. Definitely. I don't know, it weren't allowed to do this. And it's said in her last years, spent under house arrest, which we'll get into that later. She passed time by writing on the walls when parchment paper ran out. Wow. And various documents written by her prove that she could write fluently, which is huge, because a lot of people are littered around here. That's crazy.

So she was really interesting before she started being like a... Yeah, she probably could have been a vicious beast. Like cool. Yeah, she didn't kill everyone. I mean, she was as a child, she was a tomboy. She enjoyed dressing as boys, playing with boys, and playing games typically reserved for boys at the time. But as she grew older, she kind of also liked, you know,

dressing like a lady in big gowns, adorning herself with tons of jewels and diamonds and doing lady things. Who doesn't love adorning yourself with jewels and diamonds? Well, she just, she had this like cool, like I can be a tomboy, but I can also put myself in a ball gown and feel great. Like I can do both of these things. It reminds me of Ever After. It's very important. It's exactly that. This is the Ever After story. It's not. Spoiler. It's literally not at all. This is Cinderella. No, it's not. She marries the Prince of the

United States. Don't lie to me. I mean, she's all that's really cool, but she was also known to throw insane fits of rage when she was little. When she was younger and it went obviously to her adulthood, she lit her, if you pissed her off, it was like, all bets her off. So they could not hold her down when she got angry. I think she had generations of inbreeding that probably gave her some kind of mental illness that was untreated.

And she also had migraines. Migraines will make you want to fuck shit up. I get migraines. They have really suck. So I think she just, and I think she witnessed a lot of violence, aggression, and brutality, and that's how she knew how to deal with things. Okay. Now in 1571, 11-year-old Elizabeth was forced to become engaged to to count Nattostee who was 16 years old at the time. Okay. This was very common and it was always used to like solidify political bonds between families

and shit. It was always for some reason. It wasn't like they were like, we love each other. Hashtag history. In 1574, 14-year-old Elizabeth became unexpectedly pregnant. Uh-oh, and she wasn't married yet. With a child fathered by a peasant boy. Oh, no!

Yes, candle! It's like Mulan now. She brought shame to her family. I was like Mulan got pregnant by a peasant boy. Yes! I was like, whoa! No, the whole thing about me is like, bringing shame to the family.

It's exactly that seat you're nailing these I guess I'm in a Disney mood which never happens it's weird that Disney is like being brought into your mind with Elizabeth Boutry now of course this was the 16th century what they do so she was moved to a home to have the child in secret did they don't bring shame upon your family. Do they lie and say that it was her man? No, they just didn't tell anybody. Nobody's gonna know about it. And her fiance count, his name was Count Ference. That's his first name.

Like Tarant's but with an F. Exactly. He tracked down, while she was giving birth to this, this, he tracked down the baby daddy. He tracked down this peasant boy for punishment. Oh no. And as we will see later, Count Ferasant boy for punishment. Oh, no. And as we'll see later count pharynx Really loves punishment too. Oh, no

So what was the punishment? A match made in hell. He was castrated And then a pack of wild dogs was let loose on him to shred him into bits. Bye. I got to go. Yeah, right here So I bet Elizabeth was like Do you know that one and I did me off? What? End Game of Thrones. I know, that's exactly yeah. That's what I'm saying.

I'm pretty sure George R. Martin like strictly looked at Elizabeth Boutari, so I think it's like Game of Thrones. Now, even though this was because of her, this event apparently intrigued Elizabeth, who was only 14 at the time, and she found pleasure in it. The idea that this boy was castrated, and then shred debates by wild dogs. So now she reminds me of Cersei. She's real weird. That's what I'm saying.

This is Game of Thrones. In 1575, 14-year-old Elizabeth married Count Farens, because she was like, yeah! She was like, cool, that was great. Who was 19 years old at the time. The wedding was straight up game thrones. Funny fact, before the wedding ceremony, Ference would have to prove his loyalty and love for his new bride.

Yeah, because she was loyal. And the way they did this was they had Elizabeth, along with all the members of her bridal party. Prowdy. Her bride of bride party. It's not a bride party. Covered their faces with veils. And then each girl had to parade around him

in like a sexy way. And he had to choose, like, and they all had to pretend to be Elizabeth. And he had to, like, figure out what she was like. It was like a comic show. And they all imitated her, and like, we're very dramatic, and like theatrical and everything.

And he had to select the true bride over the imitators shit that will never happen I might win it yeah thank you next by and he and he did he got it right yeah what did she have to do to prove her loyalty nothing just make a baby yeah she just had to consummate that shit got it so sounds about right so and and I mean this that was just one part of the wedding. They had jousting, like they had the whole Think of like Joffrey Braffian's wedding up until he died and that was pretty much their wedding Like any game of thrones like huge wedding. That's what it was cool So they moved into the castle Cush-tease which lies over the northwestern part of Hungary

Four years after they were married, Count Ferenc was named the chief commander of all Hungarian troops. So he was in charge of leading all of the troops through the battle against the Ottoman Empire, all throughout the long war. What was that? Um, the word called? Voidvat.

Was he a voidvat? I guess that would be exactly what he wants. They just said that he was like the chief commander, but if that's what Void bod, it's pretty much it's the same exact thing. So I would say void bod. Yeah, you're right. So he was in charge of leading the battles against the Ottoman Empire throughout the long war, which was like 13 years long. I would have been funny if you were like which only lasted three weeks. The long war, which was four days. lasted three weeks. The long war, which was four days. Now he was known to be particularly cruel to the end. He was? Yes. No way. When he captured Turks in war, he was known to dance with their dead bodies and play catch and football and kickball with their severed heads. Great. Yeah. So he was a cool guy. Totally. Now her husband was obviously a way a lot now because he's off being a void bod.

And there was up to Elizabeth to run the castle and all the lands surrounding the castle. Oh and I bet she did that damn thing. And Elizabeth was one of like the first women who was really in like full power. Now also during this time, staff from the castle would go down into the village surrounding the castle and basically recruit young girls to come work in the castle because she needed a lot of help now. And I would say to that, I'm busy that day. Except you would definitely be like, I will come because you would think that you were working for a countess. So because these were poor villagers, families were more than happy to have their child

work for the counten countess. Because it meant they were gonna, I mean, she had like a finishing school, they were gonna learn to be ladies, they were gonna make a ton of money to bring back to the family, and they were gonna make connections. So it was like a big deal.

The problem arose when it began to become clear that these young girls were not coming back. Oh, no. It was pretty common knowledge that the Count and Countists treated their servants and staff horrifically. Oh, good. So it's kind of a testament to how bad life was back then because these people were still willing to send their girls to this hellhole. That's really sad. Just to make some money. Now, Elizabeth hired an older Croatian woman pretty early on. Her name was Anna Darvulia. She worked with Elizabeth from 1601 to 1609. And according to official Hungarian court documents and testimony,

Anna was known to be a witch, and Elizabeth became really into the idea of black magic. I was gonna say Elizabeth wasn't a witch. No, she just started getting super into it. Anna was also known to be very violent and a really fucking scary person. She was the one who helped guide Elizabeth through her love and fascination of torture and pain, basically. She was the one that kind of just held her hand through this. Anna's favorite method of torture included beating someone repeatedly up to 500 times in some cases until death just happened.

500 times. Yeah. She served as, quote, gatekeeper for Elizabeth, as well as her personal advisor. So she was the closest to her. Yeah. And she, in fact, was the one who reportedly advised the Countess to take on only peasant girls who, quote,

had not yet tasted the pleasures of love. So virgins. Okay. This is when we're gonna start now. This is Elizabeth is around in her 20s and we're gonna go up to like her 40s, 50s. Damn, she lived a long time for back then. She really did.

So one day, just as a little anecdote, Elizabeth wrote to her husband about Anna, quote, she has taught me a lovely new one. Catch a black hen and beat it to death with a white can. Keep the blood and smear a little of it on your enemy. If you get no chance to smear it on his body, obtain one of his garments and smear it. And that was supposed to be like a spell of some sort,

like a hex or a curse. But it just proves it's like in an official letter that she wrote her husband, like so it proves that she was like really into the black magic. One document even says that Elizabeth and Anna is this fuck would take servant girls outside in the dead of winter and force them to lie in the snow naked. If that wasn't fucked up enough, they would then pour cold water all over them and wait for it to freeze on their skin. Once they figured the girls were frozen, they would just leave them there to die. Oh my god. Yeah. While he was home, count pharynx would torture the servants and give Elizabeth lessons from what he learned at war. Because he tortured prisoners of war.

So he was like, let me help you. That's what we do. Yeah, like I got stuff to show you. One particular gift that he was supposed supposedly brought home to his wife from war was a device that resembled a hand of sharp claws that could be fitted over the fingers to cut slash and stab the victim

So the Freddie Krueger hand. Oh my god. Who else had that that we we talked about somebody that had that Oh, I think a toy box killer had one. Yeah, dude That's how you know you're straight Evil right that's fuck and if you thought that springtime brought any sort of reprieve from the outdoor torture sessions, you are wrong. In Spring, Elizabeth's husband taught her a new method. He would drag a servant girl into the midday heat, strip them naked. After this, they would cover them in honey

and tie them to something to make sure they were completely helpless, but still standing up. They were then left that way for a day and night at least. Elizabeth would watch as insects would be drawn to the honey and swarm the girl's body. Oh my God. When the girl would drop to the ground from exhaustion and pain,

Faring showed her that you put oiled paper between the girl's toes and light them on fire to revive her. Oh my God. Elizabeth watched this and participated in it. Oh my god, my toes hurt. Yeah. And sometimes they would just tie them down while they were covered in a honey and just leave them out there for animals and sex just to eat alive.

I need a deep breath. Yeah. Because it can be limiting to torture using such seasonal devices as ice and honey Elizabeth eventually had a room in the basement of the castle set up to torture her servant girls whenever she wanted to Which was a lot Witnesses claimed that in the room servants girls mouths were so shut Oh and various things were shoved under their fingernails. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god Yeah, that was one of her favorites. Even her youngest daughter

finger nails. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Yeah. That was one of her favorites. Even her youngest daughter, Catalan, apparently took place in at least one torture session. Oh, she made her. Yeah. The event occurred before Catalan's wedding. Two young girls were tortured and burnt so badly that they later died during the marriage festivities. No. Yeah. She was really mostly in the young virgins, but there is one case where she that I had to include because it was so brutal No, where she brutally tortured an older married woman working for her She says so at the time People would use unmarried virgin girls to work like as table attendance during a certain festival Okay, in a virgin back then was like a big deal. She was fucking weird. When she didn't have enough young virgins on hand,

she'd countess Elizabeth ordered this older woman to pretend to be one of the virgins and dress up like a young girl. The lady's name was modestly, I think it was. And up until this point, she had actually been a favorite of the countess and worked for her in various capacities. According to witnesses, however, the woman said, quote, but certainly my dear, high and gracious lady, I cannot be a girl since I already have a husband and a son, my little Frank. So the late Elizabeth, went fucking nuts at this because how dare you tell me. And so she went outside, got a small log, commanded this woman, modely, to put diapers on the log and carry it around with her in the castle, and she was yelling at her,

"'Suckle your child, you whore, don't let it cry.'" What? And Elizabeth would even wake her up at night and like violently shove the wood into her face and be like, like, suckle your child, suckle. This fucked up weird, like, here's your baby. And witnesses later said that she tortured her after that in various ways until she finally died.

That stresses me out. Yeah. Isn't that weird and fucked up? Yeah, like, it's just a log lady. Like, she made her put a diaper on a log and then called her a horn told her to lay her baby drink from it. Shame.

I can't. Shame. Now, the thing is this wasn't just punishment. It was not always or even mostly due to some infraction, Elizabeth claimed the servants had committed. Like, a setter. She's bored. No, it was literally just to give Elizabeth pleasure. Like, something to do. She just liked pain and suffering.

Not even that. It's not boredom. She likes pain and suffering. I hate that. It gives her pleasure. This is... It's not because she's bored. It's because she's like, I need pleasure. This is my saviour. How I get it. In 1604, after being sick for some time, her husband ended up dying. Bomber. He left the care of his wife and his children, which I guess was a common thing. You leave the care of your wife and children into somebody you trust. Sure.

To Elizabeth's cousin, Jorge Torzo, which is who wrote that letter in the beginning. Was everyone in their family named Jorge? Well, Jorge was the one who wrote that letter in the beginning and was like, yeah, my cousin was fucked up. Yeah. He was the count Palatine of Hungary. So Elizabeth was, at this time, Elizabeth was already pretty prone to

feelings of like depression, isolation and loneliness. And so when he got guilt, well not not even that, she just didn't like being alone. You're giving her way too much credit. I'm just normal. I'm just a human. You're giving her too much credit. No, she just didn a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal-

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I'm just a normal- I'm just a normal- You're giving her too much credit. She just didn't like being isolated in the castle. She just didn't like being isolated in the castle. That's all. She didn't feel any fucking guilt. She just didn't like being guilt. She just didn't like being. I can't not my head almost 30 years so you know. And he was her

partner in torture like he was kind of the perfect partner like he liked what she was so lonely. She was like I'm half to this shit alone. Where am I going to get my ideas? Exactly. And she responded to these feelings of depression by staying in her bedroom for a long periods of time. In late July of 1605 she received the news that her older brother, István Bauteri, had died. Oh no. So she made the journey back to the ex-set family estate for the funeral. According to witnesses, during the ride there in the carriage, she fucking snapped. Viciously started attacking her handmaids who were riding with her. And three of these

attendants were tortured so severely during the trip that they died. Oh my God. The Countess ordered their bodies buried along the way. What? Yeah. One of the girls who managed to survive the trip to Exead, who was, she was a young noble by the name of Zicki. Zicki? Zicki? Zicki? Zicki? Did she die there when they got there? She was later killed when they got there. When her relatives came to Elizabeth and were like, how the fuck did she die?

They, she came back and said, oh, she passed away from cholera, which was a very common illness at the time. Like on the room. Which you'll see, she used that as an excuse for a long time before she got caught. It was like, oh, they're all dying of cholera. It's crazy. And she's like, yet I'm not.

And we're going to get into this in a minute. She would make sure nobody could see the bodies because she was obviously these bodies were beating to the end. And they were made to be on recognition. And she couldn't be like, oh, it's the cholera. They're like, that's not a... Yeah, cholera slitter throat. I don't know. It's weird.

During the return trip back, the coachman, whose name was Petrus, They're like, that's not a... Yeah, call her a slitter throat. I don't know. It's weird. During the return trip back, the coachman whose name was Petris said that when the Countess traveled from ex-set back home, she tortured the young daughter of a nobleman the entire time. The girl died and was buried midway. Holy shit. Yeah. So she killed like seven people. She's a fucking savage. Like you can't even take a break. No, you can't. Most serial killers take a break. Yeah, I'm saying. When she later attended the coronation of King Matthias of Hungary, which is going, he's going to be important later. She burned several of her attendants with molten iron on the

trip home and tortured some of them to near death as well Why did she just have that laying around? Well what what we're gonna see to is that She it seems like when she was going to big social events. She got like stress I was gonna say that she was like anxiety. She responded to this But I fucking murdering people like it's bizarre You know some people down the breath up on their phone and other people fucking torture torture certain girls on the way there Those in her circle who who later testified against her We're gonna see said she would often be so saturated with blood after torturing someone that she would have to change halfway through

I was thinking this whole time I was like this lady must have had to get like new dresses made away at the time. Which she can, because she's like, well, yeah, but damn. And she always ordered her little pant-made lackeys, basically, to beat and whip and cut the girls so that there was enough blood on the floor

to scoop up with their hands. So maybe she did bottle it up and put it on herself. I believe, honestly, I'm willing to believe she used it. Yeah, in some way. Especially because of that letter where she was smeared on your enemy. Exactly. But I don't think she bathed in a bathtub of it.

As cool as that sounds. Maybe she splashed in the bottle. As like metal as that sounds. It's still like legend. I mean, it's there. Yeah, we don't know. You never know. I tried to prove it wrong through science but I don't know she also could have had like a

special tub that she went into and maybe she just filled it a little bit yeah would just want I mean that doesn't seem to or maybe she just like laid down in it and that's why she wanted them to be able to scoop it up there you go because she just like rolled around she's rolled around I wouldn't fucking put it past her there are your theories exactly So another member of her inner circle court master desio Testified later when when all this shit went down that quote She withheld water from many of them until they became very thirsty

And he said when she would eventually allow them to have something to drink, it was her ordering the girls to urinate, cup their hands below to catch the flow and then drink it from their hands. No. Yeah. And he swore on his honor that this was true. That's so fucked up. And when asked by court officials, what else he knew, he said that he heard how the wide

fire iron was heated. The girls arms were burned to smoke an ash. Ouch. In the smaller round fire iron was also heated. And he said, quote, until very hot and on my honor shoved into their vaginas. What? Yeah. A hot tire iron, like fire iron. Oh my god. Oh my god. No. Yeah. A hot tire, like fire. Oh my god, oh my god. No. Okay, pala cleanser here. No more.

No more. I think this is where the pala cleanser needs to go. This is your pala cleanser with Annie. Did you know that almonds are part of the peach family? This has been your pala cleanser with Annie. So just because she wasn't traveling outside to torture servant girls doesn't mean she slowed down. In fact, this is when the idea of young blood being like a youth serum came into play. Great.

It's not known exactly how she came up with this idea, but there are a couple of theories. One is that her husband's recent death just left her to kind of like face her own aging and mortality and she kind of desperately clung to any kind of legend or myth about Blood being a remedy, you know the other one. That's like the persistent theory about how she came up with this is that she struck a Serpent Girl one day for brushing her hair too hard and a splatter of the servant girl's blood like hit her own skin. And it appeared to smooth and purify her complexion. So that's how she was like, oh, I'ma kill you now

and use your blood, because you made me look pretty. Great. Either way, she decided young blood is what she needed to stop the aging process. Y'all, but she become beautiful. Live a long time. She did. So everybody go kill servant girls and bathe in their blood.

Or just get blood fatials because that's your own blood. But this is the whole point. It's not her own blood. It's young, virginal blood. She has the whole point. Now, she was having Anna Darvulia, her witch assistant, bring her servants to her bedroom now. Because again, remember, she was depressed. Darvulia, her like witch assistant, bring her servants to her bedroom now.

Because again, remember she was depressed, she wasn't going outside, that's why she had to have it brought to her now. Once in there she would bite them, cut them or burn them with hot molten metal and gather their blood to use on her skin. Awesome. Now, one story that started some of the rumors that would later take Elizabeth down was a young servant girl died suddenly in the night. Her body was placed in a casket and the local pastor István. It's a lot of

yourhees and István's. It's István's. Magyari was called to come get the casket. So they just have caskets lying around the back of the up. When he got there, he was a little surprised because the girl had already been put into the casket and the lid was already sealed. Oh, so sealed? Yeah. So ordinarily he would come and the girl would be lying in her bed. He would do his thing and then they'd put her in the casket. It was kind of hardy in there. No, sealed. So the Countess Bouteri took him aside and said, I'm afraid that we have a case of cholera on our hands. And he was like, oh, okay.

Like cool. Within days, another casket was brought to the church by Elizabeth Servin, sealed and closed. This one was way bigger than the usual casket. And rumors had already started going around that three girls had been nailed inside. So asking the servants to wait a second, the Reverend went to the castle to find Elizabeth,

and he said, why are the three, well, like, can I ask you if there are three bodies in that casket? Sure. Because that's what I'm hearing. And she said there are only two. So she admitted there's two bodies in that casket. Because that's what I'm hearing. And she said there are only two. So she admitted there's two bodies in that casket. And when he said what happened to them, how did all three of them die so quickly? She said one died and one had already died

and the other one was near death. So we waited it out and put them together in a single coffin. And she was like reduced for use and recycling. Exactly. She was like, I'm all about the environment. So because she was using young girls like tissues, she suddenly it became an issue finding new ones

from poor families in the village. Because she fucking took them off. She fucking took them off. And she basically did. This is when she made a huge mistake. Yes. Lead to her. They always make a huge mistake.

She made a huge mistake. She started bringing girls of noble births to say, a births satisfy her needs. She didn't go to the tippy-tippy to upper aristocratic, but she went to like the lowest noble birth she could, but still noble. The way she did this was in 1610 when Lady Boutery opened a, it's called a gyna-seem, which is like a finishing school for noble One. Oh. I wonder if gynecology came from this. Because I was like, what is this? It's a gynecologist office.

And suddenly a bunch of Noble girls were dying. Uh, 10 minutes. I had to come to this finishing school because it was so prestige. She's a countess. She's a countess bouterie. She's like, oh, god. She's like, it. She is like it.

Of course, rumors are, she really is. Of course rumors were now swirling about what the fuck was going on in this castle. Yeah. So their families decided to take the matter up with King Matthias of Hungary. We mentioned earlier. Was she related to him?

No. But she went to his coronation, and on the way, she murdered some people. Like just a few. Yeah. Now, after hearing one of these rumors from a member of his royal court, the King of Hungary sent an advisor to investigate what the fuck was going on. Okay.

This advisor was Jorge Torso. Geez, Louis. The same one who is in the letter and the being in the book. Oh, okay. The same one who is left to care for Elizabeth in the case. I thought this was another. No, this is the same. He ought to so So that's the same guy

When like he was supposed to be taking care of Elizabeth and the kids well her husband did like the dead thing cool By this time Elizabeth knew that she was probably on borrowed time like she was seeing that she was starting to ask And we're starting to loosen. She was like shit's gonna happen. So she was seeing that she was starting to ask for us. And we're starting to loosen. She was like, shit's gonna happen. So she went crazy. No, she started trying to plead her case suddenly by claiming these girls died. These girls died of natural causes or cholera. And she even told Torso because remember she knew Torso. Right. She was, in fact, I believe he was her cousin. I think you did say that at some point, by some way method, some inbreeding shit.

I think you said that earlier. Yeah, and so he would like come to the castle at times. Like he wasn't there all the time or anything. Right, anyway, but just dropped in. I think it was like when they were having tea once, she told him that one of the noble girls in her finishing school program murdered all the other ones in a jealous rage.

And he was like totally. And he was like, you probably not, but I'm not gonna question you. And when none of this was sticking, she started making arrangements. So in September 16th, 10, she made up her will. Oh, who should we have ever come to? And it was not just a statement about where to divvy up her goods

after she died, but it also transferred her states and possessions during her lifetime. So all of her states, all the shit she had. And it bequeathed everything to her three surviving children. OK. Anna, Catalan, and Pal. The only thing that she wanted to keep was her wedding dress, which she said she intended to, quote, wear until my death.

Wow. And she did? Was it covered in blood? No, because she didn't use it for that shit. So sometime in the fall of 1610, Torso showed up completely unexpected at the village because he was sent by the king. The village that surrounded the castle

and he wanted to see what the hell was going on while he was away. Because at this point, you said the king was starting to... The king had heard rumors and he was like, go investigate. Torso was one of his like royal court members. Because he's like a palatine, a court paladin, a count palatine. So he sent him to go find out what the fuck was going on. So he showed up unexpectedly in the village and started talking to people. And like tripped over a mound of dead girls.

Yeah, pretty much. And once he arrived, he assigned two people to gather evidence. So witnesses started coming forward like fucking crazy. Uh-oh. Over 300 people came forward on their own volition to testify against the Countess and the few people that I mentioned that she kept close enough to aid in this whole debacle. Yeah. These witnesses were villagers, priests, nobles and staff from a bunch of the Count countesses different estates. So these were all people that could, high witness testimony.

Some of these people said they were there to watch the torture themselves, and other people said they just heard things. They all said that torture was the main focus of Elizabeth's methods. Death was the end result, but it was always because of severe torture. Nobody died quick, or it was always severe torture was the end result but it was always because of severe torture. Nobody died quick or it was always severe torture was the cause of death. Oh my god. Bodies began being found now. Somewhere in the castles. Somewhere in local graveyards. Somewhere buried around the castle and others were discovered in all the rooms of the castle including fireplaces. They were just just in fireplaces? Sure, she tried to burn them.

Did the castle smell like shit? Probably, but a lot of things smell like ship back then, I think. So I mean, I think it not. It probably wasn't that big. His investigation also turned up that Elizabeth had like a huge posse of people in the village that would help to get the girls. And this is what he thought that these girls were only being lured to the castle with the promise of work and such. But he later discovered that some of them were just straight up abducted. Damn. Yeah. In fact, nobles such as Lady

Anna Wellaker, Lady Judith Poggin, Lady Zell and others were supposed to have acted as quote, girl catchers for her. Oh my god. Yeah. This was like a mission. It wasn't this fucked up. Yeah. Now was the trial time. Yes. Because you have to remember that letter in the beginning

was what happened when Torzo entered the castle. He literally tripped over bodies. So he just caught her like red handed. So now the trial came. Unfortunately, Anna Davolia, her right hand woman, died before Tozo Kodresta. Did she kill herself? No. She died of like a cancer or something.

This was a big blow because she was thought to be the main person next to Elizabeth and even thought to possibly be her secret lover. Oh shit! Her testimony was going to be vital. And since he couldn't get in and out anymore, he got the rest of the small amount of staff that was used to help in the torture. They were all arrested on December 30, 1609.

Wow. In January 1610, the evidence was presented at trial. Witnesses testified all that shit. And in the end, this group was convicted for the murder by torture of at least 80 girls. Oh, every one of them were executed in the end for their roles. Good. One servant on the inside testified that she had special access to Elizabeth's bedroom. That was her special privilege. While Elizabeth was not in the room once, she noticed there was a diary laying

there. Did you take it? The diary contained a list of names. These names were belonging to every single one of the victim. What was shocking was the amount of names was not 80. She claimed there were upwards of 650 names on the ledger, and the court initially only thought there were 80 which is still insane 80 is still crazy 650's bonkers Small town. I don't even know what to say about that Benedict desio who we mentioned earlier was the countess's court master He was the one that said that he watched them like have to drink their own pee Yeah, and he was the one that knew about the vagina. Nope, nope, nope.

He was the man that she held in like the highest trust. Wow. DesiO was named during the torture and admitted to seeing everything basically. He described in court how she quote, disciplined a young maid called Ilianca for clumsiness. Oh shit, I would have been fucked. This girl apparently was young. Like she was like 11? Maybe like she was young. Elizabeth stripped the girl and then began stabbing her in the fingers. It became more and more insane and she became more and more angry and frenzied and began moving up to her finger from her fingers to her arms. And then when her arms were done, she started stabbing

her in the legs. And the girl is literally like, he said she was falling on the ground like crying. And she's trying to get away and she just kept stabbing at her, stabbing at her. And then she said she was so frenzy that she started whipping her violently and burned her hands with a kitten nearby candle. Oh my God. And she did not stop until the girl died right there. And he said he literally stood there and watched that. Like how do you just stand there and watch that

and not try to fucking stop it? It's crazy. Like why didn't know what did anyone try to stop her? No, because they were scared of her, I think. Yeah. She had a lot of power. I know, I get it, but dang it. I know, I know, because I agree.

It's like, these next ones are from record. I'm going to leave them as they are. So this one is the first one, a 12-year-old girl named Pola, somehow managed to escape from the castle. But Dorka, who was the, she was, actually, she was Elizabeth's kid's wet nurse who helped her torture people. Aided by Helena Jo, caught the frightened girl by surprise and brought her forcibly back to Keshtee's castle. Oh no. Glad only in a long white robe, Countess Elizabeth greeted the girl upon her return.

The Countess wasn't another of her rages. She advanced on the 12-year-old child and forced her into a kind of cage. This particular cage was built like a huge ball, too narrow to sit in, too low to stand in. Once the girl was inside, the cage was suddenly hauled up by a pulley and dozens of short spikes jutted into the cage. Pola tried to avoid being caught on the spikes, but Fisco maneuvered the ropes so that the cage shifted from side to side. Pola's flesh was torn to pieces. Oh my god. That's from record. Another accomplice testified that

on some days Elizabeth had stark naked girls laid flat on the floor of her bedroom and tortured them so much that she could scoop the blood for up by the pailful afterwards. And so she had servants bring up senders in order to cover the pools of blood, because it was so much. And a young maid servant who did not fare well during the tortures, died very quickly and was written by the Countess in her diary with quote, she was too small. Like, she just wrote that? Yeah. Like that was her comment.

Like, her name was like, she was too small, she couldn't handle it. Like, she died quickly, it was annoying. Like, she was too small. At one point in her life, Elizabeth Bouterie was very ill. And she couldn't move from her bed, but that didn't stop her. She couldn't get up and torture her serving girls. So she demanded that one of her female servants be brought before her. This is Dorothea Zentez, who's Dorca.

They used to call it Dorothea and Dorothea's known as Dorca back then. Like in Salem, there was a Dorka. This woman was really strong. So she brought her in there and she was like, go drag a servant girl to me right now. I don't want to. When she got brought over to her bedside, Dorka held her up there. Elizabeth sat up in her bed and, quote, like a bulldog, she opened her mouth

and bit the girl first on the cheek. Then she went for the girl's shoulders where she ripped out a piece of flesh with her teeth. After that, Elizabeth proceeded to bite the girl's breasts. Oh. Like, she literally was like, bring me a servant girl so I can chew on her. Like literally. Did she have like like, bring me a servant girl so I can chew on her. Like literally.

Did she have like sharpen teeth or some shit? No, she was just a fucking raging beast. That's what it's, it's crazy. What you can, your mouth is one of, you know, the strongest things on your body. Oh, if you're really mad. You wanna rip some flesh out of someone. I could say something in things one on my own.

Yeah, there you go. Good mouth. Find anybody like that. Now you're probably wondering where Elizabeth is in this trial. Like, what was her? Everyone else got executed. Yeah. What happened to Elizabeth? Well, she never went to trial. Her noble birth made it illegal to try her without an act of parliament. Could this... The king just write some shit up? If they had done this, it would have set a precedent that would have put a lot of noble assholes in a hot seat potentially, so they all wanted to avoid it. Oh no. Even Torzo, he could have been put somewhere for any number of things, so he was like,

yeah, let's not do that. So, to make sure this thing never entered that situation, Torzo reminded King Matthias that a public trial would not only discredit Bouterie and parents her husband who was from another noble family. And he was like a known as like a revered war hero. So they also said it was going to discredit the nobility in the crown by by association. Sorry they were like we can't drag her in a trial. This is going to take us all down. So the Boucherie family and the Nattistie family agreed to cancel Matthias' debts that

he had, which he owed to Elizabeth. Elizabeth had lent him money. Lent the king money? Yes. Lent the crown money before. So these two families agreed to cancel that debt, and Matthias decided that Elizabeth wouldn't stand trial, but instead would receive a very specific punishment. So Thorzo is prone to abouts of depression, isolation, loneliness. She does not like being alone. So don't worry, she didn't get out scoffery. She was put into her bedroom and every single window and door was bricked shut. She was sealed inside of her torture quarters forever. The only passage to the outside world

was a small slot used to pass her food through. She shouldn't even... God, not. She ended up living there for four more years and she died on August 14th, 1614. Some believe this was actually Thurzo fulfilling a promise to Elizabeth's husband about taking care of her and her kids is by making this Our pun it because he was like at least you're not being executed because by doing this

He also spared them a huge public execution that would have been like a fucking carnival right so her kids would have been Totally shamed not that they weren't already but like a public execution would have made her shame way bigger of a thing so She was like she ended up in the end. She was real grounded. She was like heavy duty grounded. For real. Now as a compelling side story, this was kind of, there were reasons that the King of Hungary, King Matthias, wanted to see this powerful lady taken down. I mean, she was definitely a sadist and a murderer at a torture, but it's interesting to see how convenient her capture and downfall were for a lot of people around

her. Like, for years, her husband had been lending money to the Hungarian crown. Like I said, the crown made no effort to pay that debt back. Because they didn't have to. Yeah. And Elizabeth, who is now a widow, she was like, you got pay me back right So the King Matthias was already like okay bitch like stop you're annoying like he was mad So King Matthias knew if he could convict her of a capital crime He would not only wipe out his debt to her, but he could also claim her states Oh, and he would also take out a very powerful woman. Yeah

So it's just interesting to see that those two, not that that takes away the fact that she did all this, but I'm just saying it was very convenient for him to be like, yeah, we won't execute her, we'll just do this. So, and that is it. That is the story of what happened to her kid. Oh, is it a battery? Not a lot is known about her kids.

Her kids and her siblings. They probably were like, that's not my mom. Yeah, they're like, no. Like, I don't know what's about her. Yeah, no. My last name were like, that's not my mom. Yeah, they're like, no. Like, I don't know. What's about tree? Yeah, no. My last name is Jones, don't worry about it. Yeah.

What a fucking doozy bro. That's the story of Elizabeth Boutree. Oh, wow. And again, super sorry about the way I pronounced everything. I feel like you did a good job. You can totally yell at me for it. I know we said, you're he, right? Because we looked it up.

Yeah. And I think I got like, Istvon, right? Yeah. And know we said, you're he, right? Cause we looked it up. Yeah. And I think I got like, Esteban, right? Yeah. And Boucherie, I know it was right. You know what I think you probably got right to.

You were doing all the time. Anna. I bet I did that. Watch it's probably Anna. So yeah, that's a crazy story. And I was really excited. That was a good one. But like also like, wow.

I know it was an intense one. Yeah. So I hope you guys dug it and um we'll let you know what next week's case is and in a couple of days you have Alain as many sode coming up so look forward to it yeah and I also have an idea for a Patreon bonus episode what is it so I'm not going to tell you what it is yet okay tell me off it but oh it's it it's a crazy one and I. And I think we'll probably give it to you soon because you deserve it.

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