Morbid - Episode 54: Crystal Mangum Mini Morbid

Episode Date: March 24, 2019

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So this week in the Weirdo category, we have re-shary. Re-shary? Yeah, girl. I love the rhyming of your name. I like it a lot, and re is R-H-I. How cool is that? Ooh, I like that. Thank you, re. That's like Rihanna, like Rii Rii.

Rii Rii. Rii Rii. Thank you Rii Rii. Thank you so much Rii. In the window latch and cavan, we have Bailey Eversal. Bailey, I love you so much. My dog just looked at me when I said that

because that's her name. I love her so much too. I love you Bailey. thank you so much. Thank you Bailey. We have also in the window watching Cavan Kelly leatherberry. Kelly leatherberry, burry, like burried a dead body. Like a burried a dead body. That's a cool name because that's like kind of like leather face

and you also bury in your name like bury a dead body. So yeah, welcome. Welcome to the trip. You bury a dead body with your leather face on. Yes, she did. Yes. Thank you Kelly. I know what you did last summer. Thank you so much Kelly. In the window latch and come in still we have Kara Tinker. Kara Tinker, you make me thinker that you are a wonderful person. You are the best Kara. I like Kara no matter what way you spin it. I love you Kara. Just you care. I love you T Cara. All right, last one, which I hope we haven't already thanked her because her name did sound familiar, but I didn't go back and check if we already did. So you know what? You might just get a second thank you.

Yeah. You know what? Thank you and you're welcome. Yeah, and if it is a second one, you deserve it still. So. In the jagged little bitch category is Emily Corwin. Emily Corwin, you do sound familiar, but- She does. Either way, thank you so much.

Thank you. Because we love you. Welcome to being a jagged little bitch. Welcome. Welcome. Thank you and welcome to the best podcast. And you guys are seriously making this possible. And we can't tell you that enough because we would just be talking to each other about this shit without microphones in front of us without you guys, so thank you so much. Which we did for a really long time. We really did. I never got boring. We were just like, no. Let's talk to the world.

Yeah, let's put a microphone in front of our faces. Let's do this. Let's do it. And here we are doing it. And it's because of you guys. All because of you. All right, well, this is a mini morbid. So do you want to hear who I'm doing? I'm so ready for this. Just to give credit where credit is due, I was watching Snap to last night and I was like, hmm, I got to do this one.

So this is the case of crystal mango. Which should sound familiar? I was going to say it sounds slightly familiar, but I don't know. You'll know once I get into it. Okay. I'm ready. Okay, so... So, come at me, Crystal. Come at you, bro.

So, Crystal grew up just outside of Durham, North Carolina. She was raised by like a loving, typical family. She was one of three kids, but they weren't super well off like the family. And because she couldn't afford to go to college, she went into the Navy. So while she was in the Navy, she met a man's. She met a man. She met a man's in the Navy.

A naval man. A naval man and a naval gal fault. You, oh. That's my song, your mom. Wow. I rate hits. You do, you really do. That was a good, your mom. Wow. I write hits. You do, you really do. That was a good follow up.

So yeah, she met this man's and she, they fell in love. She kind of thought this was like her happily ever after. They were going to spend their lives together. I feel like it's not. Well, they end up having two children together. Oh, so that's awesome. That's awesome. It wasn't happily ever after.

Because he was married to not crystal. Oh Yeah, so that complicates things. That's a really tough thing to work through Sure is, you know, like I don't know all the details because snapped didn't get really that much into the details of this one. They never do They don't. Nope. I have a problem with this one. This is a mini morbid, so you have a problem with snap. I hate snap. What? I love snap.

I just love snap. They don't get enough detail. Not with everything, but some cases they totes do. Yeah. The old snap was a lot better than the new snap. Yeah, now they're good like supplementary. Supplementary. I like that.

Well, anyways, so Chris wanted to discharging from the Navy a little bit later. Honourably, she wasn't dishonourably just discharged. And she moved home to North Carolina with her kids. She started college when she went home because she was like, you know, the Navy didn't work out, this didn't work out blah blah blah. I'm gonna get an education. I'm gonna get me an education. So she went to college at North Carolina University. She got her undergrad in psychology. Hey, oh.

And then she started working on her masters. Wow, good for her. So while she was in college, she meets another man's. Another man's. And she thinks that, you know, this is it. Oh no. And they have a baby together.

Oh, this wasn't it either was it wasn't it Man, she said it didn't work out stop having babies with random bands Especially when it's not working out girl friend. Yeah, like you got to make sure that shit is like solid Yeah, maybe make sure he doesn't have a wife. I don't know. I don't think this guy did but it didn't work out So yeah, irreconcilerable differences I guess. Can we just take a second to fucking recognize how hard that word is to say? Irreconcilable. That is really hard. Irreconcilable. It's so hard. Irreconcilable. Yeah, that is really hard. You say it weird. You say it like I reckon. I reckon sourable. So yeah, they didn't work out. And now, Crystal had three kids to support,

which that's hard. No man, so I got zero kids, and I can barely support myself, so that's fun. I literally am broke, but. And Crystal was also trying to finish college, so she was like really starting to struggle. Yeah, I mean, that's a recipe for anxiety. It really is.

So what's the quickest way to make money? Other than selling drugs I would say. Turn and tricks. Another quick way to make money. You can look what you can't touch it. Oh it's jumping. Oh okay so I was on the same drama. I was on the same I was going out of that realm of sex work.

For a while and I was like what else make so much money that quick Erotic dancing erotic day also that was a great hint. Is that the pussy cat dolls? I think it is I don't even know I just thought you like I Like that up on the fly I Was prepared When she said you can look but you can't touch, I was like, oh, stripping. Oh, God. Oh, God.

Yes. Crystal starts exotic dancing to make ends meet. All right, Crystal. She was doing private parties and making good ass money. Probably. Yeah, I mean, I've never considered it, but we need it. We need it, but you know, I don't know if anyone would ever pay for that, but we're on the street.

And I did that out. You're like, what's the money? So on the night of March 13th, 2006, she showed up to this party that was being thrown by the Duke LeCrosse team. Oh. I knew. As soon as I said, Duke LeCrosse team team, you were gonna understand what I was talking about.

Oh no. So they had hired her to come to an off-campus party as an exotic dancer, but it didn't like really go how crystal thought that it would. No, no. I didn't go like that. go like that. That was just did the most intense wink wink wink. Wankwank. Oh no. She went to police after the party and filed a police report or whatever if she did because she had been raped by three of the Duke University lacrosse team players. Oh that's so terrible. So Duke University responded to the accusations almost immediately. They canceled the lacrosse season,

and they fired the lacrosse coach. Because they were like, what the hell are you teaching these boys? Exactly. The case became like huge in America. And people were like very divided on who they were defending. Some people were all in Crystal's corner, and some people are all like,

Duke of the Cross team would never do that. As is the case with all of these kinds of cases, it seems. Yeah. Which is ridiculously unfortunate. And the thing was, like, people came to Crystal's defense because she was a young African-American mother who was trying to provide for her family and was assaulted in the process.

Exactly. Like, she wasn't doing anything wrong. She was just doing her job. Just making her money. What do you think about her job is moot, you know? She was just doing her job. So the only thing that went wrong is that during the trial,

DNA results came back and none of the three accused players were a match for the DNA. Oh, Crystal. So the case comes to the conclusion that the men are completely innocent and that this was a case of a false accusation. Oh, no. The district attorney lost a lot of support after that case.

The DA lost a lot of support after that decision was made. And also, apparently, was disbarred afterwards. Oh, damn. So I don't know if there was like, I think it was just because it was so controversial. Yeah. And there was a lot going on. I mean they don't really disbar people for that, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no We're taking that shit away. He says controversial. That's not what I meant. You know what I meant. So, but Crystal Face Consequences, too.

She couldn't get a job anywhere in or near Durham after that. She was like go from jobs when she had them, like so many times. She literally, like she said that she couldn't even rent an apartment once people found out her last name because they knew exactly who she was. Oh, shit. And they were like, she said that she couldn't even rent an apartment once people found out her last name because they knew exactly who she was. Oh shit.

And they were like, she lied. Yeah. But, you know, but we're gonna start talking about a different person really quickly. We're just gonna shift gears a little bit. Alright. So I'm gonna tell you about Reggie Day. Reggie Day? A.K.A.

Reginald's Day. Reginald Day? What you gotta say? So what I gotta say about Reggie Day is that he was born in 1964. And he also grew up just outside of Durham, North Carolina. He was like an average dude. People described him as kind. He like to help people. And he was just like, like a simple dude living his life. He was just a Reginald.

He was just a Reggie day. Yeah. That's all he was. This living He was just a Reginald. He was just a Reggie debt. Yeah, that's all he was. This live in his life has a Reginald. So Reggie met Crystal when he was doing work at her aunt's house. He was like a painter. So I think he was painting the house. Okay. Like our painter, we have a family painter.

We do have a painter. He's great. I'm not gonna tell you what his name is because I, because don't try and gulate, but, because I'm not trying. You're late.

But anyway, so yeah, Reggie and Crystal meet. Because she, at the time, she was living with her aunt, because it was really hard for her to find a place to live. So they started casually talking, and as he was doing his work, and Crystal mentioned that she felt bad, that she was living with her aunt with three kids, and so on and so forth.

So like I said, Reggie's a wicked nice dude, and he's like, oh, I'm actually looking for a roommate. So within like a few days, Crystal moves in with Reggie. With her kids? With her kids, yeah. Um, he's also, I think, 14 years older than she is. Yeah, I just, whatever you want to do. But like, don't move your kids into a stranger's house. Just don't do it.

Yeah, that I'm going to, I'm'm gonna put my foot down on that one. Don't do what you want. Yeah, don't be doing that. Yeah, so Reggie was actually super nice and when they moved in, he started sleeping on the couch so that everybody could have their own bedroom. Like, like, kids can have a bedroom and Crystal can have a bedroom, but listen honey. Reggie wasn't sleeping on the couch very long because him and Crystal really hit it off. Oh, I knew it. Oh, I knew it. To her bed room.

They were. Doing the nicest. To what? I don't really know if that's true, but I'm sure it was. They were bumping up glistening. They were buying love that freeze. I had to break it back. I had to break it back. Bring it back. Bring it back.

So yeah, he and Crystal began a relationship very shortly after she moved in. But people told him to be wary of Crystal because... You know, her... her thing. That whole thing. But he was like the kind of person that thought everybody deserved the second chance. Because his name is Reginald. So they were infatuated with each other. And he was like, you know, crystal and dope.

I'm infatuated with her. I like her kids. I like everything. We're family. He really, Reggie really wanted a family. This is making me sad because I feel like things aren't going to go well. Oh, don't get too sad. Well, I am going to tell you something that's something that's like a huge bummer now.

But, you know, I'm just... I'm going to take you, I'm taking you on a ride. We're about two quarters of the way in. I'm in. Two quarters would be a half. So yeah, we're about two quarters slash half of the way in. It's too visible. It's someplace.

So April 3rd, 2011, things take a turn for the worse. Carlos Wilson answers a knock at the door at like, I'm pretty sure it's like two, three in the eleven. Things take a turn for the worse. Carlos Wilson answers a knock at the door at like I'm pretty sure it's like two thirty in the morning. He opens the door to his uncle Reginald Day who is bleeding and stumbles into the door. He has been stabbed between the ribs. Crystal did it. Yes. Carlos I'm not even gonna like make it. I'm just gonna, yes. She did. She did. She did. Yeah. He calls 911 to and tries to help Reggie keep calm,

but he's losing blood really quickly. Oh no. So police and ambulances come and Reggie's rushed to the hospital and has to undergo emergency surgery. Please. While Reggie is in surgery, his nephew brings the police to his apartment to figure out like what the fuck is going on. So when they open the door, it's a terrifying scene. Glasses are smashed, tables are flipped over.

A door is completely off the hinges and like it looks like it's been like either punched or kicked in. What? Hair is on the floor, like, clumps of hair. Damn, damn. Yeah, it's fucked up. So, and also there's blood stains everywhere, and there is a knife that has been stabbed into the couch.

Oh, shit. So, police are like, do you know anything to Carlos? And he's like, yeah, he reiterates what Reggie told him and the police are stunned because they're like uh crystal manum we know her because of the duke skin okay we know who that is so crystal is nowhere to be found like they don't know where she is so now there's like a hunt for crystal he didn't know anything because Reggie was like delirious. He just knew that he had been stabbed

and he was like, I don't know, like his girlfriend's not here and like none of the kids are here. So like, maybe she did it. Okay. So they're like, okay, and now they're like, like they know he's dating Crystal

so they and they know her past. So they're like, we're fishy. So as they're looking for her, they receive a nine one one call from the same apartment complex as Reggie's where they're investigating and putting the chit together. You know the chain of yellow tape up the chain of custody? Yes, the chain of custody. I wanted to say the chain of evidence really badly.

Well, it's kind of the same. Yeah. So the 911 caller is a young boy and he says, his mom was getting beat up and she accidentally stabbed the dude to get away. Oh no. Also, if you listen to this 911 call, if you watch the episode of Snap, he sounds like wicked chill about the entire thing

and I was like, what? You're like, that's kind of an intense thing to talk about dude. Yeah and I don't know like how old this kid is or anything but I'm pretty sure he's like pretty young. Um, when the dispatcher, but when the dispatcher asks his name he says, please just hurry up and get here. It's really a lot of trouble and we really need you to get here like seriously like seriously, dude Super chill

So when the police get there they see crystal mango She's laying on the floor. It's I think it's like a neighbor's house. I don't think I was I Research that part you do So she's laying on the floor her mess hair is a mess. Her lip is swollen and there's a small cut on her hand and she's just like crazy mess. So the officers calm her down because she's like, that's a direct quote. That's a direct verbatim what she said. And they bring her down to the station for questioning. So she refuses to speak

because she's been down this road before and knows like that she's not about to talk about turning. Yeah, she's like, you know what? I know this. I know how this goes. Yeah. So one detective really felt like it looked like she had been on the receiving end of everything just based on like her cuts and everything. But since she wasn't willing to speak, they had to just treat her injuries and then take her into custody. So she's arrested for assault with a deadly weapon and flippering serious injury. Because at this point, Reggie's still alive. But if Reggie dies, she's facing murder charges. So Reggie is in surgery. I was going to say, what's Reggie's, So Reggie is in surgery. I was gonna say, what's Reggie's situation here?

What's he doing? He has surgery and after surgery, he's taken from critical condition to stable condition. He suffered a 7.5 stab wound, which hit his colon spleen and kidney. Whoa, that's no joke. Literally no joke whatsoever. Damn, I'm surprised. I'm that's no joke. Literally no joke whatsoever. Damn, I'm surprised he survived that. It's wild. Yeah, he tells detectives that April 2, 2011

was supposed to be a big day for him in crystal. They were going to a family picnic where he was gonna be like, hey, everybody, this is my girlfriend, like officially. I mean, it still was a big day for them. It certainly was. Just not a picnic. It was supposed to be a good big day. Okay. So so he and he according to him he brings her to the picnic he's like hey like this is my girlfriend. Everybody's excited for them everything goes well. But then when they get home they see a cop

who crystal knows in the parking lot. He He calls her over and they kind of start talking just like, oh hey, how are you, blah blah blah. But Reggie thinks that crystal was being super flirty, which pisses him off, since he feels like it's a big deal that he literally just introduced her to his family as his woman. And they start to get into a fight. So they're yelling at each other and yelling back and forth at each other. And then they're outside.

So the officer is like, hey, you need to, like, was everything okay? And they're like, yeah. And he's like, okay, well, like if you're gonna yell at each other, go inside. So it's cool. They go inside. Yeah, that's actually exactly what he said.

Don't turn into people. They go inside. Yeah, that's actually exactly what he said. Don't turn it to the situation. He did and I think they they were like, yeah, like everything's fine, sorry. Yeah. And then they go inside where everything escalates. They're screaming yelling at each other, which at this point, I'm like, where did this officer go? Like, why was he just hanging out there? That all of a sudden just got when this happened. He's like, this like it won't be a domestic violence situation So I'm just gonna leave no not at all. I'm not interested in this I'm actually almost done with my shift. So I have to know bye so as they're screaming and screaming and yelling at each other Reggie admits that he hits crystal like he tells you really that he hit her

Yeah, okay, Reggie fuck Reggie. And this is actually really sad, because this is him telling officers this. He says she locks herself into the bathroom, but he kicks in the door, which is how the door came off of its hinges. Oh, from Gigi. And drags her out of the bathroom, like pulling her hair out as he's dragging her.

Oh my God. And he says, he like realizes that this has gone too far and he stops once he realizes as he's dragging her. And he says, he realizes that this has gone too far and he stops once he realizes what he's doing. He comes to you. I 100% do not believe that. I also 100% do not believe it either. 100% don't believe that. So he turns to walk away.

This is twisty and turning. It is twisty. Because you're gonna root for one person and then you're gonna be like, fuck that person and then you're gonna root for this person and then you're gonna be like fuck that person and then you're gonna root for this person and then you're gonna be like fuck that person too. Oh no. Like who do I believe?

Who do you love? Should I believe it anyone? No. No. Or all of the reason. At the end he is don't believe it anybody. No. So yeah, he's like what the fuck am I doing?

Comes down and walks away. You know, like how all domestic just happens to be go. Always. And as he's walking away, Crystal runs to the kitchen, grabs the knife, stabs him and runs out. Yeah. Reggie, come on.

Yeah. It's like I stopped everything was chill and she was like, I'm a stab, you know? Yeah, no. That didn't happen. Well, I mean, maybe it did, I don't know, but I doubtfully did. Seems unlikely.

So after detectives get their story from Reggie, sometime goes on, but his condition takes a turn for the worse. Because, fun fact, Reggie is an alcoholic. So at this point, he's suffering from withdrawal. And it has heart issues. So he slips into a coma. Oh, Reggie. And on April 13th, 2011, his family had to make the decision to pull the plug on his life support.

Oh, shit. Because even if he lived through the coma, he would have had very serious brain damage. Wow. But his official cause of death is listed as complications from a stab wound. Yeah, I mean, because that wouldn't have happened if he wasn't stabbed. I see it. You know, like, not like that at least. Now, Crystal's charges go from assault to first degree murder. So her attorney advises her to speak directly to the district attorney, given her past with the law, like he doesn't want anybody else talking to her.

Her story starts just like Reggie did. They were going to a family party. He was going to introduce her as his girlfriend, but then she says that he had started drinking that morning before they even went to the picnic and that he was already drunk when they got here, when they got there. That's good. She says that they returned home around 1 a.m.

And I'm like, yo, how long did that picnic go? That's a picnic. That is a long aspect. That's a lot of picnicking. So they get home around 1 a.m. And that's when she spoke with the officer. She says like, they knew each other. He called her over.

It's all the same as Rajee's story. And she says as soon as the door closes, he hits her. She runs like they knew each other. He called her over. It's all the same as Rajee's story. And she says as soon as the door closes, he hits her, she runs to the bathroom, he breaks down the door, pulls her out. But she says it was Reggie who went into the kitchen and got the knives and like multiple knives and started throwing them at her like she was like target practice. Oh, which could explain why there was a nice account of the couch. Right. So this is like a believable story. It is.

She says that they stuck different places and that she grabbed one, stabbed him and ran. Which that makes a little more sense. That does make a lot more sense. I will say that. So although it does make sense and it seems like Crystal's telling the truth, the police are hesitant to believe her

because of the Duke University scan. When we'll once you're caught last one. She's actually charged with second degree murder and she's in the headlines like the next day. I was gonna say, I didn't think it would be first degree because she couldn't prevent it. Yeah, second grade. So, she makes headlines

and now they're concerned that she's not going to get a fair trial because of her past. So now the whole like worry slash debacle is should we have her tried here in Durham or should we move this over to another county? Yeah. So two and a half years go by before this trial even starts. Jesus. Her attorneys don't make the decision to ask for the trial to be moved because they

feel like she still has some supporters in Durham and they don't think that she has many in the counties nearby. Well, I guess at least in Durham, like, she kind of grew up there and like, it was very family, maybe, and friends who like, that group can like, read the end of the world. But yeah. Right. So the trial begins on November 15th, 2013, and the judge rules that nothing from the Duke University

case is allowed in court, like nothing at all. I mean, that makes sense if we're talking about it. Yeah, of course it does. It's fairly. So Crystal's attorneys, opening statements, basically claim self-defense. Yeah. They say she was dragged out of the bathroom by her hair,

so she had every reason to fear for her life. Yeah, like duh. Like if someone does that to me, I'm gonna stab them. It's just the way it is. 100% except now I'll think twice about it. Because now it'll be premeditated because I said it here. Yeah, exactly. The prosecution sets up a very different case. They say that Crystal is an unstable woman with a long history and a lack of self-control. So what is another fucking crazy ass turn here

is that the prosecution has a star witness from Crystal's past. Her ex-boyfriend of, you know, not the Navy one or the other dude, just another ex-boyfriend. His name is Milton Walker. So they bring him on the stand and she had previously lived with him and he testified that only 14 months before the altercation

with Reggie. He and Crystal had been in an altercation like a domestic dispute and that this fight escalated to the point and there's pictures where crystal brought his belongings like his clothes and stuff into the bathroom and set them on fire So shit she Lisa left. I low-pitched it. Mm-hmm. So when he called police the police arrived and she went after him in front of the police with a knife Oh, yeah, so they were able to get Crystal away from him, but she was arrested for arson, but not the attempted assault. I don't know why they did not include that in there. She spent 90 days in jail,

and then moved back in with her aunt, where she met Reggie. So because they have this testimony that she was like about to stab somebody else, the jury's like, fuck yeah, she did it. Yeah, of course it was intentional. So on November 22nd, the jury comes back with a verdict of guilty in the form of second degree murder. Uh, Crystal was sentenced to 14 to 18 years in prison. And some people kind of felt like it was like vindication because of the Duke University thing. It was kind of like late justice serve. Yeah. But some people still

felt bad for her. Just an update. She lost her last sentence appeal in July 2015. And she is expected to be out in 2026. And she'll be 14 years old. So she's in jail. Holy shit, Crystal. I know. To me, that just sounds like Reginald was someone with huge issues. Yep. She was someone with huge issues. Yep. And they were both incredibly volatile and wrong and violent and kind of terrible. So it's like no one would. I was watching it and I was like, I have to do this one. Let's see, yeah, that's crazy. Because it's like the Duke University thing and then it's like, she's like,

I knew the Duke University thing. I just didn't know. I didn't know, I feel like I knew something happened after that but not that. Isn't that wild? Wow, that's crazy. So yeah, that's the case of Crystal Mangum. That's a crazy case.

It's bananas. It is bananas. That's an ash centric bananas many more bit right there. It was ash centric. It was ash centric because it involved snapped. So you need to use that centric. I love the introduction to snapped. It's like except it doesn't at all sound like that. That's exactly what it sounds like. Yeah, you know, nailed it. That's what it sounds like. Well, we hope you guys enjoyed that.

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you keep it weird. But that's a weird that you go and stab people and get in trouble for it. That's all I have for you. That's hope that you don't keep it that weird. Don't stab people. Don't be that weird. Don't do it. No. Never stab anybody.

Don't drag people by the hair. Don't stab people. Don't do anything. Just keep it simple. Yeah. Keep it simple, stupid kiss. So things are real speaking to me. Many more good bye.

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