Morbid - Episode 56: The Horrific Murder of Jason Sweeney Mini Morbid

Episode Date: April 2, 2019

16 year old Jason Sweeney was a sweet, kind, hard working kid with a bright future. Unfortunately, Jason also unknowingly surrounded himself with  jealous,violent people who posed as his fri...ends only to end it all for him. This case is brutal. Sources: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2003-06-29-0306290275-story.html https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/20150220_Man_resentenced_to_life_without_parole_in_the_brutal_2003_slaying_of_Fishtown_teen.html http://malefactorsregister.com/wp/beyond-redemption/ https://tulsaworld.com/archive/national-briefs-boy-slain-after-being-lured-to-field-by-girlfriend/article_b6b2e5f4-957d-598d-b3e7-389772f8ceed.html See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 That's ANGI, or download the app today. Hey weirdos, I'm Elena, and I'm Ash, and this is a mini morbid. Yeah, it's small and creepy. Mini, mini, mini, mini, mini, more bed. Mini, morbid, mini, morb, many, many more bad. Many more bad, many more bad. And by small, I mean like medium size to large. It's about an hour because it's a later as many episodes. Which means it's going to be unusually long. And we are kind of on limited
Starting point is 00:02:03 time because Ash has like a life or something and she has somewhere to go. Do you guys want to know where I'm going? They do. You do? They do. Okay. I'm going to Fleetwood back tonight. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa to have a heart palpitation or five. It's true if she really is. Yeah, I might sporadically combust. Just fire. It defy ya. So because this is a mini, we don't really do a whole lot. We're gonna thank our Patreons, our Patronuses,
Starting point is 00:02:35 our beautiful lovelies in our full length episode because we are kind of short on time. And we wanna make sure we get through this episode. So we don't have any more business. So we're just gonna jump right in. Tell me what you're doing, tell me what you're doing. So I'm not gonna tell you this case. I'm just gonna lead you on into it.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Am I gonna know it, do you feel? I don't think you are because I have known about this case for a long, long, long, long time. And it always interested me. But when I looked it up, I and I could be like tooting my own home here, I saw no other podcast cover this case. Ever.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Oh shit. And I was actually kind of shocked because it's a crazy case. Like crazy. Is it scary? It's real scary. And okay, one, two, three, go. So this takes place in a fish town, Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Fish town, yeah. Fish town. And weirdly enough, it has nothing to do with marine life. So, dammit. Yeah, I know. Bersher bubble. Already, I'm picturing, I know what you did last summer and I got setting.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I know, right. That's fish town. And it's not at all. So the setting of this crime and question is a local hidden hangout called the Trails in Fish Town. Oh no. Nothing good goes down on the trails. The trails is never a good place to do anything.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And it's actually kind of like a public park near the Delaware River. It's kind of dirty. It's off the beaten path. Kids like to hang out there and do bad shit. There's also a lot of homeless people in there. Yeah, there's lots of drugs. There's also like a listed activity going on in there.
Starting point is 00:04:02 So our reddics, you know this isn't gonna be good. So we're gonna take you to Memorial Day weekend 2003. Now that's supposed to be a fun weekend. It is, but it was not. So two teenage boys were hanging out on the trails and they came across a like scatter of bloody bones all of a sudden. Good, really?
Starting point is 00:04:23 And they were like, what the hell is this? So they initially thought it was like a deer or something, like some kind of animal. But then they moved further up the trail and came across a battered beyond recognition male human body. Yeah. This male human body had no shirt and his pants were down at his ankles. So they immediately called 911. And when investigators arrived, they said the
Starting point is 00:04:46 head of this victim was bludgeoned so badly that it was completely unrecognizable. Oh my God. Yeah. He had gouges from his chin to his nasal cavity. Pieces of his face were just completely missing. Teeth were lying in the grass next to his head. Yeah. Did lead animals get to him? No. This is just him being like super bleached. He was very fresh and this was all done by someone else. Oh, yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So the lead detective on the case who got there first said all you saw was eyebrows and hair, but his face was completely torn to pieces. Now, it was also clear to investigators that he had grabbed the ground with his hands at one point and had tried to frantically get away from whoever was attacking him. His pockets were turned inside out and his cash and ID were missing.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Okay. So Mark, Detective Mark Willafford, the lead investigator for this case, said that the scene really affected him in a profound way. He said he hadn't ever seen anything like it and hasn't since. It was that. It would be like the straight-up devil if it didn't affect you, right? But like you think like a homicide detective you've seen some really bad shit. Like this must have been really bad. That's a way up there. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Obviously the next thing to look for is the murder weapon because usually it does get- I thought you were gonna say the murderer. Obviously, we might want to look at who did this. I mean, that seems like- Obviously, the next thing to look for is the murderer. So that, that, to do list says like, discover body, check, find murderer, check, check. And we're on to number two. How to solve a crime for dummies?
Starting point is 00:06:24 They just busted out the yellow book. They look like we're waiting a second. What's the next step? Sorry. So you know what? That sounds like some police departments we have covered. So it's not even crazy. Usually the murder weapon does get taken by the perpetrator
Starting point is 00:06:40 away from the scene. But sometimes and oftentimes, they are dumb enough to leave it out the scene, but sometimes, and often times, they are dumb enough to leave it out the scene. Or they trash it. Exactly. So ding, ding, ding, nearby, they found a huge rock that had blood all over it. Oh no. Then right next to the body, they found a bloody hatchet. Hatchet? Yep, hatchet. I hardly know it. So it looked like these two things were clearly. They were bloody. They were really troublesome. They were right next to the body. They were like these probably were involved. So they followed some of the blood trail that was like scattered and inconsistent
Starting point is 00:07:18 around the body. And it led to this weird little like makeshift shack where a homeless man was living in the woods. Nope. Now when they got this guy out of the shack, he had blood on his face. No. So they were like, yo, where'd you get that blood on your face? And he was like, oh, I cut myself. No, like, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:07:37 We're gonna go ahead and detain you. So they detained him. And meanwhile, the body was brought to the medical examiner's office and the autopsy was done by Dr. In Hood who has one of the coolest Australian accents I've ever heard. I watched the documentary about this. We know you love an Australian accent. It's an awesome accent. So when he took a look at the body he's noticed that there was not a lot of decomposition. The body was very fresh. So they estimated the murder likely occurred
Starting point is 00:08:06 like less than 24 hours previous to when they discovered him, which put his death on late Friday after noon or evening of May 30, 2003. He explained that most of the blows had happened on the front top and right side of this person's head, and there was complete destruction of the right side of this person's head, and there was complete destruction of the right side of the skull. In the end, only one bone in his cheek remained unbroken.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So every bone in their face was broken, except for that bone. Every single other bone in his face and skull was broken or completely destroyed. You know what I mean? Accidentally, like, hate your nose on something or like, you know what I mean? Like, that hurts so bad. And you're like the whole worst pain ever. Yes. Can you imagine you're in tight, I mean, don't imagine it,
Starting point is 00:08:47 but like your entire fucking face being there. Yeah. Good night, Seattle. And this guy was clearly helpless too. I mean, like he was on his back laying on the ground with his pants at his ankles. So besides all the injuries that clearly occurred right before his death, he had a pretty recently healing
Starting point is 00:09:05 laceration across his hand, so that had happened before he'd even met this fate that he met. This was important because they could use this to identify him, hopefully. Because remember, this poor guy had basically no face or head left to identify him. And no teeth. Well, and so they were like, you know, maybe a missing person with a lafceration on their hand, because oftentimes when they report missing people, they'll say whether they have like recent marks on some things so you can identify them. They were like, maybe this can help. So the other detective on the case, detective Richard Reinhold, went through all the missing person reports from the previous day and one stuck out him. It was a very recent
Starting point is 00:09:44 missing person's report like hours old. Only hours old? Yeah, and it was of a 16 year old boy named Jason Sweeney. Oh no, I didn't want to be that young. Not that I wanted this to happen to an old person, but... No. But currently Jason had been working with his father as a construction worker, so they thought the laceration on his hand might fit that type of work. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:07 So they went to Jason Sweeney's home. They talked to his parents who were a mess, because he got along with his parents. He was a good kid. So they were an absolute mess that he hadn't been home. Yeah. When they spoke to his sister Melissa, she confirmed that Jason had cut his hand kind of badly
Starting point is 00:10:24 while working with their dad at the construction site like within the last day or so. So the family said they had actually written in the Missing Persons report that mark as an identifier. Oh, so they showed them the photos of his hand in the wound post mortem and they all confirmed that it was definitely him just based on that wound. Oh wow. Yeah, physically and just by looking at him, that is literally all the family could identify him by. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So 16-year-old Jason Swini was a good looking, well-built construction guy. He was described by those who knew him as, quote, every mother's dream. Oh my God. He was extremely loyal, very generous, very hard working. That's horrible. He liked to joke around and honestly he just sounds like he was like a really good person and kid. He was working really hard
Starting point is 00:11:15 towards the goal of becoming a Navy SEAL. It was on his way to starting the proper education and a training for it in the next few years. Since his pockets were emptied and his ID and cash were stolen, they obviously started focusing on the motive of robbery because he was making really good money working for his dad. And Friday was paid. He had just got paid. Yeah. So back at the station, police were interviewing that homeless guy that they found living near the crime scene with fucking blood on his face. Because this scene was clearly a robbery of some sort, and like I said, it was payday. Jason had made $500 that week working with his dad, and it seemed like...
Starting point is 00:11:53 Yo! Yeah. Sign me up for construction. Are you fucking kidding me? So he had $500 on him. That week? Yeah. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:12:04 There was no money found on the homeless man and none in his shack though. That's interesting. He saw they check his alibi which was that he spent all of Friday at a homeless shelter where other people could say he was there and it was confirmed. So he really just cut his face. Dead end. He literally did just cut his face. He was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Yeah, so he was like, no, I really didn't. So they thought that was gonna be a home run and it was just a dead end.
Starting point is 00:12:30 So now, Jason's family gives detectives a list of his closest friends and people he's hung out with the most and people who are around him recently. This list included 16 year old Nicholas Coya and 17 year old Dominic Coya, who are brothers. Okay, and assholes. One might say. Okay. Nickolas Koya and 17-year-old Dominic Koya who are brothers. Okay, and Assholes.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Uh, one might say. Okay. It also included 16-year-old Eddie Batzig, who was Jason's literal best friend for like 12 years. There's this community best friend murder. I don't know. I just don't know. Who really knows. The list also included his really new girlfriend, 15-year-old Justina Morley.
Starting point is 00:13:07 The two had just started dating pretty casually like a couple weeks before his murder. Exactly. So they were just kind of like, we're going out. This was his first girlfriend. Yeah, she lived a few doors down from the from the sweetie house she was something special oh no she was pretty troubled just seen them morally still a little bit about this demon just seen them morally claimed that she started smoking weed at the age of 10 years old holy shit after that yeah literally a fetus. Like, whoa. Yeah, smoking weed, 10 years old. And then shortly after that, she started taking prescription pills and snorting coke.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Shortly after 10. Oh, she's like Drew Barrymoreing it. Oh, yeah. Holy fuck. She does not turn out like Drew Barrymore though. Don't we all want to turn out like Drew Barrymore, right? Talk about a survival story. I know, for real. You would never know. She's literally never.
Starting point is 00:14:10 So Justina's mother said that her daughter started cutting her wrists at the age of 10 as well. What happened in her life? She had been hospitalized for threatening suicide and self-medilation in 2002, which was a year before this case. And she was admitted to friends hospital for cutting her wrists, knees, and thighs, taking pills, and writing a suicide note on her door. Okay. When she was in there, Justina threatened to commit suicide if her mother didn't take her out of the hospital.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So against the doctors and the hospital's advice, her mom take her out of the hospital. So against the doctors and the hospital's advice, her mom took her out of the hospital, which is never a good idea. No. And this was only a year earlier, just a... So wait, why did anything happen in her life? Like that you could find? That may hurt her so much. I couldn't find anything. She just is a troubled kid. I didn't see anything that in, you know, a lot of these kids have like pretty normal I shouldn't say normal. I feel like everybody has some shit in their life Some people worse than others and it's like these kids sure a few of them had like you know absent parents or something like that But right it wasn't anything I saw that was a major. Yeah, so then justina had also been expelled from public school in eighth grade
Starting point is 00:15:25 Where why she had to why I have no idea. Oh, wow She then had to repeat eighth grade again at the private school holy name of Jesus Which was a Catholic school in fish town holy name of Jesus? I know that's a that's a school name And that's where she needed to be holy name of Jesus They obviously the holy name of Jesus So that's that's a that's justina Jason's mom said Quote the night before he was killed Jason and I sat there talking and he said mom. I'm dating this girl I've been dating her for a couple weeks and she's really nice. I think you'll really like her
Starting point is 00:16:03 I've been dating her for a couple of weeks and she's really nice. I think you'll really like her. His sister, however, was immediately like, this girl knows what happened and she told police to check her out because she was like, I got a bad feeling. Yeah. His sister seemed like she was really close to him. Like it was sad to watch her interviews. And she was like, I just had a feeling. Like she was like, she's his girlfriend girlfriend new or not like two weeks or not You're around him a lot. You know what's going on here like after no such thing. So detectives bring justina in to the station And right away They break the tragic news to her that her boyfriend has been brutally murdered. Let me guess she doesn't bat an eyelash Doesn't bat an eyelash
Starting point is 00:16:41 emotionally totally detached super, like zero reaction. And they're like, uh, you want to please. She tells, she's, when they're like, uh, when's the last time you saw your boyfriend or talked to him, like, have you wondered where he is? Like, yeah. And so she tells police the last night she saw him was Friday during the day.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And she said he had failed to attend a party in the woods that night that was attended by Eddie Battsig, his best friend, and the two brothers, Nicholas and Dominic Koya. He had said he was coming and she was bummed, but apparently not worried and not worry enough to do a damn thing to contact him when he didn't show up to the party.
Starting point is 00:17:22 She was like, oh yeah, I was a little bummed but like he didn't show up. And like also this is 2003, you could have texted him. Well, and it's like, that's the thing. It's like she didn't even contact him to be like, where are you? Because like you would think that you'd be like annoyed if he wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Like you said, you were coming. What the hell? Like, where are you? So something wasn't right about Justina right away to the investigators. They were like, yeah, this is just a little weird. So after she brought up Eddie Nicholas and Dominic, they decided to bring in Eddie first because that's Jason's literal best friend.
Starting point is 00:17:52 So they find out he was a mess too. He was a thief who had broken into a house before, done a bunch of other bad shit. Uh, he was known to have abused heroin, weed, and prescription pills. What the fuck? Which all of these kids did, by, weed, and prescription pills. What the fuck? Which all of these kids did, by the way, except for Jason. Why was he hanging out with these kids? They were a wreck. And he was going down a really bad path.
Starting point is 00:18:15 So, oh, and along with Justina Dominic and Nicholas, they had not just smoked weed, like being like, he abused weed. Yeah, like that's not what. But they didn't just smoke weed, they smoked it spiked with embalming fluid. What? What does that do? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Where do you get? I was out working the other day and I was thinking about, I'm like, what the hell would you do with the following fluid? I must change the high in some way. I mean, yeah, I would assume so. Do you know how bad that's gonna like fry your fucking brain cells?
Starting point is 00:18:46 Like, femaledehyde will fuck you up. We can't even open a bucket of femaledehyde without having like a mask on. You know, when you do keradins at work, a lot of times they're, they used to have for maledehyde in them, but they don't know. That's so close. But what they don't tell you is the chemical reaction of you streaning and into somebody's hair produces for male-a-head. Oh, that's so bad.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I really hate that breathing. I really hate that breathing. Yeah, never do it because that's bad to breathe in. No, I would literally never. Oh, yeah. That's real bad. Ugh. Well, don't, and don't smoke weed with a bombing fluid in it, anybody?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Please. Yeah. It doesn't produce good results. I thought you were just saying that to me. I was like, I didn't really plan on it. I really like, you don't do that either. You don't do it. Everybody, just stop.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Put down the embalming fluid. So the investigators break the bad news to Eddie. That is best friend. Was brutally murdered. Brutally killed. He also had barely any reaction at all. OK, that's fucking weird. Also, was he on heroin at the time.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Well, and that's kind of one of the things that they're like, okay, we can't immediately take these things as like signs because they are all drug addicts. So we can't feel at least it's crazy. So this did make the investigator suspicious. But when they pressed about who could have hurt Jason, Eddie was like, no one would hurt Jason, everyone loves Jason. Like he was like, I can no one would hurt Jason, everyone loves Jason. Like he was like, I can't think of one person, everyone loves him. So they were like, okay, his alibi was that he was waiting for Jason at the party that Justina talked about. He says, Justina is telling the truth and he basically regurgitated the exact story word for word.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Investigators said never good. No, it's never good, because it starts sounding rehearsed. The investigators said that after they mentioned they had spoken with Justina, he became weirdly concerned with Justina's wellbeing. Way more than he was for the fact that his best friend had been brutally murdered by some unknown silent. Like he was concerned with Justina's wellbeing.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Like is she okay? You talk to her? Everything's okay with her. Like they were like yeah. But so are they going to not on the low. Well, they prodded and asked if he had something going on with her. And he claimed he did have a crush on her and had asked her out before but she had said no. Okay. So that's when they were like, uh, does this bother you? Like did it bother you that Jason was dating her? Like, correct. And he was like, oh my god, no, like got pissed and denied that he would ever be jealous of his best friend. So they're like, okay. So they left because they were like, all right, we're going to take this and put a pin in it. So a few hours after this,
Starting point is 00:21:23 Jason's dad and his sister said that they came home to their from talking to investigators themselves to find Eddie and Nicholas Koya at their house. Okay. They were there waiting for them because they were eagerly wondering whether the cops had found anything or had any leads. Now, this wasn't like concerned friends being like, do they know who did this? Like, they were more like, uh, did they tell you that they know anything? Like, do they have any evidence of who did like, they were singing a cock? Because we definitely killed him. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And Jason's father ends up confronting them and asking them point blank what the fuck they know. Like, he was like, what do you know? Yeah. They obviously denied and I, but Jason's family smartly called the police after this encounter and said these kids are acting strange Like you got to bring back in something's weird. So now they bring Nicholas Koya and this is horb oh it gets So it's crazy Nicholas was like a skater kid. He also abused heroin weed and prescription drugs
Starting point is 00:22:22 And this was what the fuck are you doing on your way? And these- this wasn't just like hearsay. Court testimony later on revealed this. So these kids said like this was on record that they were all interested stuff. He tells the exact same story as Justina and Eddie. He claims everyone loves Jason. No one would hurt him. But he admits that he did recently sleep with Jason's girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:22:45 Justina. Oh, so this girl. Oh, and she gets worse. So they were like, okay. So next, they bring Dominic, his brother in. Dominic Koya abused the same kind of shit that they all did. Heroin, weed, alcohol. He was a really messed up kid.
Starting point is 00:23:01 He says he hadn't seen Jason since the previous Friday. Same story as the rest. He says they had been friends for about four or five years. And he couldn't think of anyone who would want to hurt Jason. Because Jason was a great guy. And everyone loved him. The same exact story that they all are getting. So this is so annoying. Now the investigators are like, yeah, you're, this is all too similar. Like you're all clearly choreographing this. So they look at him. He's the 17 year old. He's the oldest one of the bunch. So they look at him and they
Starting point is 00:23:34 start trying to pin it on him with the mode of money because his parents had recently told him he had to leave the house when he turned 18. Okay. So he's like, no way. I would never rob my friend because I love Jason. He's a great guy. Bop a dude. So they're like, bop a dude. So they're like, all right. So they focus back on Justina because they're getting the vibes all around here, but they just need something to tie this all in.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So they look for the weak link and they're like, Justina would have definitely heard. And Justina was giving them the creeps from the jump. So they look for the weak link. And they're like, Justina was giving it. That's definitely her. And Justina was giving them the creeps from the jump. So they were like, all right. So her mother brought her into the homicide department. They tell her they don't believe her story. And they're like, we just don't believe you. Like why don't you fess out? So she gets all upset.
Starting point is 00:24:19 She's crying. She's acting crazy. Investigators are positive. It was just a show for her mother. Like she didn't really feel these things, she was just pretending. So now investigators are like, listen, if you would just spill all the shit that you obviously know, we'll strike a deal with you. So she immediately agreed and the story changes. Is this another deal with the devil? This is a, yeah, pretty much. So she says Dominic was like the alpha of the group
Starting point is 00:24:47 and he came up with this plan. And he's the oldest. Yeah he's the 17 year old. The plan was to rob Jason. So it was Friday, payday. They all knew he was going to have $500 on him at the least. And instead of working like Jason to get money, they all just wanted to steal his so they could just party with it That's all they wanted. They just want to party with his money So she says that he Dominic got Eddie and Nicholas into the plan as well And she said that he got her into it to act as the bait to lure Jason to be robbed So she also said she was only pretending to care about Jason the entire time so that she could steal from him.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Like she didn't like him at all. But she says there was never any plan to murder him that she knew of because yeah right bitch. Yeah, like no, like no, justina. But she's gonna play that act for a while. She's like I had no idea they were gonna hurt him. I thought they were just gonna rob him. And that's fine, right? So now that she's told this story, she says Dominic told her to lure Jason on a hike or like a date in the trails on Friday with the promise of sex. Jason was a virgin, Justina was very experienced at 15, and very good at sexually manipulating boys as it comes to.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Oh, good. Yes, that was kind of her thing. So they knew this would be a sure way to at least get him where they needed him to be. So they went to this particular location, justina and Jason went on this, to this particular location on the trails, but then she stopped and said, you know, this is dirty. I don't want to be here. I have a better place to go. So she took Jason to a pre-arranged location that was even more secluded.
Starting point is 00:26:29 They started undressing. They started making out. She had pulled his pants down and taken his shirt off. That was all part of the plan. To get him partially nude so that he would be more vulnerable in his pants red as ankles so he couldn't run. Oh my god. This was all planned. So meanwhile during all of this, Nicholas Eddie and Dominic were hiding in the bushes with latex gloves on holding rocks, a hatchet, and a hammer. Yeah, but they had no fucking plan on murdering you. No, and she had no idea. And this was his best friend. Best friend. And people, two other friends who he saw all the time and hung out with for like five years. Yeah, that's literally so fucked up. And they're all waiting for the moment to
Starting point is 00:27:11 jump out. So, Justina is telling investigators that she set him up to be robbed. But when she saw all the weapons and shit started, like shit started to go down, she freaked out and had no idea that they were planning to murder or hurt him. She said she just stood there watching. She said she was too frightened to do anything. Oh sure. Because she's such a delicate fucking flower. So now that the story has spilled out, the rest are all brought in now again. So all four, including Justina, were placed in different rooms to be interrogated. Because they were like, we're gonna fucking crack these kids. Like's gonna. Yeah, they're all idiots
Starting point is 00:27:46 So they go to Eddie first the best friend of like 12 years Wow, what a fucked up individual. Yeah, they told him we know you're lying Justina gave you up. We know that you were involved you were there. He confesses like right away Like he's like, yeah, you know what I was so They ask him who struck Jason first and he says quote that was me with the hatchet Are you kidding friend and he said he hit him a total of four or five times with the hatchet He also told the detectives He told detective Reinholds that he insisted that he strikes the first blow when they initially planned it. Why? He said he hid him with the hatchet as hard as he could in the forehead.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And according to the Emmy, that particular wound was like two to three inches deep in his forehead. So why did he want to be the one to do that first? Well, according to him, actually, I'll tell you in one second. So according to Jason's family, if they said if Eddie had asked Jason for the $500, he would have given it to him because he took care of Eddie. Right. Like he was like, he always cared about him. And he said that Jason's mom said he wanted to believe the best in everyone. And even when I told him that his best friend Eddie was going down the wrong road And I didn't want him near him. He said quote, Mom, maybe if Eddie hangs out with me, he'll change because I don't do those things.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Wow, so he was like if he wanted that money, he could have said can I have your 500 bucks? And you would have been like here dude. Wow. So investigators said Eddie actually had zero remorse and still referred to him as his best friend during the interrogation. What the fuck? There's video of this interrogation and it's true this kid has zero emotion. Zero. He tells it so matter-soul. It's so weird. And he's like, I wanted to hit him first.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Well, and what's crazy, Eddie said it wasn't even money as a motive for him. He was hoping it would impress Justina by hitting him with the hatchet. He was hoping to impress what this girl by hacking at Jason's skull with a hatchet. Where does that thought process even happen in your brain? Like this not only tells me a ton of night's in Seattle. Good night Seattle. Oh my god. This doesn't just tell me a ton about Eddie. This tells me a shit ton about Justina.
Starting point is 00:30:11 If you're looking to a show's office, it's like a dark and fuck that. By hitting her like current boyfriend in the head with a hatchet, like something's wrong here. Yeah, so I'm just gonna read you a little snippet from the interview. The police said, did you intend to kill Jason? And Eddie said yes. Oh!
Starting point is 00:30:29 The police said, how did you strike him? Can you show me? Eddie said both hands like that, and he put his hands over his head and whacked. Oh my god. Then the police said, what did Jason say? And Eddie said, please stop. I'm bleeding. And the police said, what did you say? And Eddie said, please stop. I'm bleeding. And the police said, what did you do when he said that?
Starting point is 00:30:48 And Eddie said, I hit him again. These people are literally the devil. Now, and this is a 16 year old kid who is his best friend. Then he literally says, quote, Jason started begging for his life, but we just kept hitting him. Then they finished him off at the end by dropping a boulder on the right side of his head.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Oh my god. And like the Emmy said, Sweeney's head was completely crushed and the only bone left undamaged was his left cheekbone. They put a boulder, they threw a boulder on his head. They literally took a boulder and dropped it on his head as he was laying there like dying. And then they used the money they stole from Jason to buy weed, heroin, and Xanax.
Starting point is 00:31:28 What? The actual fuh. Yeah. So now it was Dominix turned to be interviewed. Dominix the 17 year old. The police said, quote, why did you guys kill him? And Dominix said, I guess for the money. So they said, how why did you guys kill him? And Dominic said, I guess for the money. So they said, how much did you get from him? And he said $125 each. So they said, what weapons did you use to kill Jason? And he says, quote, a hammer, a hatchet, and nature. Nature.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So they said, what do you mean by nature? And he goes, a boulder, a rock. Are you kidding? Dominic said they planned the murder far in advance and had listened to the Beatles' Helter Skelter about 43 times before they did it. 43. Like Charles Manson.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Yeah, that's weird. And they probably took it from Charles Manson. Like that whole thing. Yeah, that's what they were like. Let's be like the Manson family. Except you're not an owl. So, and in the press, a lot of the articles I read about this, they did draw that in,
Starting point is 00:32:29 and sensationalize it a little bit. Like, oh, Manson family style. Yeah, bye. So, and Dominic said, quote, we took Sweeney's wallet out and split up the money and we partied beyond redemption. But first he said that they, they quote, share the group hug. It was like we were all happy with what we did no
Starting point is 00:32:47 Like you're what you had he literally telling you Investigators, he's like we were all happy and we all hugged After we did that because we killed a really good person that no one would ever want to hurt that was our friend and They were all drug addicts. So one of the detectives was like uh were you high during this killing? Like were they? And Dominic said quote no I was as sober as I am now it's sick isn't it? Yeah it is. That's literally what he says. Get fuck that kid. He's just trying to be like, I missed you. I'm gonna go Well, and I have a really funny little thing about Dominic later, which might make you laugh. But he also said that they all wanted Jason to suffer.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Why? Which leads me to believe that money was not the only motive here. They were fucking jealous of this kid. He had the life they refused to work for. He was, they were jealous of his money. They were jealous he He had a good head on his shoulders and he was down a good path. And it was something that they were never going to have because they were fucking caught. So why don't you just work for it? Go to rehab.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And he was someone everyone liked. He was a good kid. And they knew that they were never going to get that because they weren't going to do shit to get that. So they just wanted to steal it from him and erase him. So it's just purely in that, like inadequate people, just taking their shit out on a higher life form. The fact that they were sober during that is like the most terrifying thing. Totally sober. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Now, Dominic said he started hitting Jason with the hammer after Eddie hit him with the hatchet. He said that Jason was crying and begging for his life the entire time. And he actually told investigators that at one point he hit Jason so hard with the hammer that the hammer became embedded in the stuck in his. Oh my god. Yup. And justina confirms this later. So police said did he attempt to flee to get away?
Starting point is 00:34:44 Dominic said, yeah, once. So the police said, what happened when he tried to do that? And Dominic said he was hit with a rock. And they said, by who? And he said, my brother. Oh my god. So now it's Nicholas' coias turn because now they're like, oh no, we got to talk to Nicholas. I feel like I actually have to take a break now. Can I have a pack of drinks? Yeah, this is a lot. I can't have of break here. So now it's Nicholas's turn. Nicholas just admits everything to. Okay, but he says quote, I only hit him with a rock.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Like that's fine, right? No. Like I didn't use a hammer or a hatchet. I used a rock, okay? And you still killed him. So after Jason was dead, they split the $500, $125 each. It's not even a lot of money. No, you killed someone for $125. Like get a job, you'll get more than that per week. Honestly. Did any of them have jobs? No.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I don't think so. I think they were all just deadbeat assholes. Awesome. So this is when Nicholas revealed the big twist that should shock approximately no one. Justina was not just a decoy. Yeah definitely not. She was fully involved. She knew about the murder plot all along and participated happily. Yeah not shocked. So they go back to her and they tell her, listen, we know you're a lying sack of shit. So she confesses and said she never cared about Jason at all. And she said he was just one of the guys that she controlled with sex.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Just one of them. Just one of them. You see, she also had Dominic, Nicholas, and Eddie under her control because she routinely slept with all of them, mostly to get her one. Wow. She was 15. So remember that. She basically used sex to make these dudes do what she wanted. That was her thing. Normally, I would be like, I mean you do you girl, like you want to control people around you with your body that's on you, like that's fine.
Starting point is 00:36:41 But she was a fucking demon obviously. obviously yeah like this is not a normal like circumstances you know she's not empowering in any way no just in case people are like your slut-shaming like I'm not slut-shaming oh no we're not she murdered somebody so yeah like be strong dude what you gotta do yeah live your best life I would not shame someone for that but don't hurt and do. Clearly a different circumstance. Yes. Because I think somebody said that in one of our reviews, they were like, they sluts shame. And I was like, what the fuck do we, I'm constantly
Starting point is 00:37:10 just murder. No, we just murder shame. I don't really think of murderers as humans. So I'm not calling her a slut. I'm not doing anything like that. But she's a demon. Yeah. So she is.
Starting point is 00:37:21 They're literally a demon. Yeah, literally. She admitted also, quote, Eddie swung his hatchet and hit Jason in the right front side of the head, and Jason staggered. Jason touched his head and realized he was bleeding and said, what are you doing? And started to run. Dominic jumped on Jason and started hitting Jason on the head with his hammer. Jason was saying, please, no guys, stop, please.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Just so you know, this particular passage gets a little graphic, so just be aware. Then she said, quote, Dom jumped on his back and started hitting him with the hammer. I saw the hammer go into his head and it wouldn't come out. So she confirmed what Dominic just said. That is the most graphically horrifying, right? Fucking piece of evidence that I've ever heard. Yeah. So according to Justina, Jason's last words were to her and he said, quote,
Starting point is 00:38:17 you set me up. Wow. So his last words were looking at her and saying, you set me up. Good. I hope that fucking haunts her forever. Except I know won't because she's a good girl. Yeah, it doesn't. But I still hope it does. So apparently both the Koya brothers, Eddie and Justina went to a friend's house immediately after killing Jason. And this friend helped them watch their bloody clothes.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Are you kidding? Yeah, and this friend who I did not see in the name for said, quote, dominant comes in, he's shaking. Well, they're all shaking. close. Are you kidding? Yeah. And this friend who I did not see a name for said quote, Dominic comes in, he's shaking while they're all shaking. They're saying that they did it. They couldn't believe they killed Jason. So he just nailed them. Wow. So all four of them were arrested for murder. When it went to trial, the state wanted the max sentences possible. Oh, she's wicked ugly. Ew. She's scary looking. Actually, actually. She literally looks like she can do so.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Reinhold, one of the lead detectives on the case that we mentioned earlier, said at 38 years of law enforcement, he had never seen anything so horrific. So he agreed that they should be locked up forever, and he actually supported the death penalty in the case for Dominic. I would think so. The original judge on this case called it something out of the dark ages.
Starting point is 00:39:28 It literally is. And he called it, there was like a medieval tinge to this. It was so brutal. It, like, what the fuck? So during the trial, a lot of Justina's dark shit came out. And it also came out that Justina had slept with Nicholas and Eddie only a couple weeks prior in exchange for heroin, and she had often done that. So she was very involved with the cedar side of this group as well.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Now the Philadelphia assistant district attorney Judy Conroy said, quote, the brutality of this case is really beyond the spoken word. The injuries and the extent of the injuries and the amount of force necessary to inflict those injuries is unspeakable. It really is. So even though they were all juveniles, they were all charged as adults. Good. Because that's an adult crime.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah. That is very much an adult crime. Now, of course, the attorneys on their side tried to try all the shit about their crazed drug addicts. They were on drugs. And they said it like that shit negates responsibility. Yeah, of course. Or it's highly choreographed murder and robbery plot.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Like, this wasn't a crime of passion. This was so choreographed. It was everything. Jason's mother was quoted as saying she doesn't believe, she'd never believed that shit at all. She said, quote, no, no. These children, they plotted this. It was very well fought out right down to their alibi. Even at the preliminary hearings, the lawyers did a sidebar
Starting point is 00:40:51 and the four of them sat there smiling and laughing. It was absolutely horrific. They were laughing. They literally sat there smiling and laughing at the preliminary hearing. Now, Justina pled to third-degree murder because she copped that deal. She got 17 and a half to 35 years in prison for her testimony against them. I really hope she got 35 years. Which is bullshit, because she could be out of there by the time she's 50. Yeah, and she doesn't deserve to be.
Starting point is 00:41:19 And it's like, ugh. She's probably getting like better drugs in jail. I know she probably is. Eddie Dominic and Nicholas were convicted for murder, conspiracy, robbery, and possession of an instrument of crime. In all were sentenced to life in prison. Good. Dominic almost got the death penalty, but they struck that down and made it life.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Now, when sentencing them, the judge said, quote, there is a level of inhumanity that exists in these facts. This was a totally depraved act. Now, in jailhouse communication between Justina and Dom, because they relate to each other. Is it not allowed in some places? Yeah, I mean, I think it all depends on where, but they relate to each other.
Starting point is 00:42:02 It shouldn't be allowed. Oh, you know what it was? It was these letters that I'm about to read you were during the trial, like a waiting trial. Oh, okay. So they were actually used against her later. Oh, good. So in one of the writings to Dominic, she wrote quote,
Starting point is 00:42:19 like, this girl is so extra to like, I'm like, okay, she looks like she would take it down and not. She wrote quote, So you say I'm manipulative and yes, I believe I am in ways. I'm persuasively manipulative. And I think I'm pretty good at it too. I enjoy dragging people around. And then she said in another letter quote,
Starting point is 00:42:41 tell me you don't enjoy these gullible humans. It's funny how easy it is to persuade them into lies. Then, what? Possibly the most damning letter she wrote. She said, quote, I am guilty, but I still don't feel guilty for anything. I still enjoy my flashbacks. They give me comfort. I love them. Nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, quote, I'm a cold blooded fucking death worshipping bitch who survives by feeding off the weak and lonely. I lure them and then I crush them. Like bitch, you are 15. Calm down a notch.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I think she's the devil. Like she's like queen of the damned here and it's like no, you've just got a bunch of ugly dudes to follow you around for a little while and convince them to murder a dude that thought he was dating you. Yeah, like you did something awful and stupid and you found stupid people to do it with you. She's overwhelming me. She's overwhelming. So when assistant district attorney Judy Conroy asked if asked Justina on the stand if she took pride in what she'd done. She probably said yes. Well, she said according to these letters it what she'd done. She probably said yes. Well, when she said according to these letters, it looks like you did.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Morley said on the stand, yes, I did. And the prosecutor also got her admit that she and the boys were quote excited when they planned the murder and quote happy when they accomplished it. Can you imagine having to be the parents of Jason and listen to this? Oh my god. I can't do that. Like how do do not commit another murder in the fucking courtroom. I think I would literally, I think I couldn't go. I know that if I was in that room I would try to kill her.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Literally, like 110%. Like if that was my child, I can't even fathom these poor people. But yeah, she's totally capable of rehabilitation after. Literally, in a few years in prison. Oh, this is interesting. Also on the standing court, Justine admitted that shortly after they were arrested, she stripped for the three guys in a prison van
Starting point is 00:44:55 on the way to the courthouse. Ew. Like, I just saw a photo of her and I don't know why they were so obsessed with her. Silence. She had no eyebrows. She looked dead inside. Her. She had no eyebrows. She looked dead inside. Her eyes were sunken on.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Like, she was not cute. Like that face looks like it's a face that has been involved in a lot of dark shit. And yeah, for real. Like, you just, you look at it and you're like, yeah. Like Voldemort is that you? She kind of does have a Voldemorty. A Voldemorty. A Voldemorty kind of situation there. So unfortunately in 2012,
Starting point is 00:45:32 the US Supreme Court ruled that life sentences given to juveniles were a violation of the Eighth Amendment. It's not, though. The Eighth Amendment is the one that says the government can't put cruel and unusual punishment upon you. That's not cruel or unusual. Not for them. So they required juvenile sentence to life to be brought back in to be
Starting point is 00:45:52 resentant. Retracted. So they did have resentants and hearings. Nicholas's was in 2015. All of them have the same sentence in the end. They didn't change any of them. At 28 years old, Nicholas was brought in in 2015. Jason's mother, they were at every single one
Starting point is 00:46:11 of these resentencing hearings. Jason's mother said that the court needed to uphold the sentence and she said, quote, quote, my precious baby boy had been beaten to death so brutally that I had to identify him by a fresh scar on his hand. And she said, quote, I sat in the courtroom listening to testimony that a couple of weeks prior to Jason's murder, the four of them originally wanted to murder me and my whole family while we slept.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Oh, they did? Now, I can't find a ton about this, like particular plot that they had apparently, but holy shit. I wouldn't have been a person. They were originally planning on murdering this whole family. I wouldn't have been a shot. But then they settled on just killing Jason. Like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:46:53 And it was in testimony. So it was like they said they admitted to it in court. Judge Sandy LV Bird sentenced him to life in prison again without the possibility of parole, upholding the original 2005 sentence. And she said, quote, this is an uncommon case. There are no factors which remove the defendant from the punishment of life in prison without parole.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Not only did he plan the assault, but he participated in the assault, which was so violent that Jason Swini had to be identified with dental records. Now, personally, I think they deserve the sentences, even though they were juveniles. No, they do. Because I mean, there's certainly cases
Starting point is 00:47:30 where this can have a gray area, like the juvenile sentencing of life. And I totally recognize that that can happen. But like, there's a case, a guy named Josh Phillips, who we're definitely gonna cover at some point. We'll probably do it in another mini-soder, Patreon bonus episode, so I won't get too far into it, but he was like 13 or 14 when he murdered like his eight-year-old neighbor in a very weird,
Starting point is 00:47:56 very scattered, like, panicked state. Like it wasn't a planned thing, and when you read the case, it's very fucked up and very weird but like that's one in particular that like he's like in he's like almost 30 now I think and he's like I not like I didn't plan that I didn't I would have never done that. Is he the one that hit her under his bed? Yeah. Yeah. And that seems like it was kind of like just this weird he didn't want to get in trouble. Yeah. So it was like those kind of things I can get to the gray area with and be like, okay, maybe they can be rehabilitated, but a 16 year old. That's a tough one for me because I knew right from wrong f16.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Yeah, I know you do. The right thing or make the smartest decision. No, but I definitely knew I was fucking up when I was fucking up. And you definitely didn't murder anybody. Also, Dominic was days away from being 18. You were a full ass man at 18 and don't even tell me differently. And also this was highly, highly planned.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Highly planned. Down to the last second. In fact, if I could, they were gonna kill the whole family. It was like, whoa. This wasn't like a youthful like fuck up, you're like 13 and you do some of this stupid and you don't know how to fix it. So you just do something even dumber to fix it. Like this is 16, 17, almost 18 year olds planning things for weeks. It's like, come on. Get out of here. So, so this is just as a cookie side note towards the end here. I found a website where you can write to prisoners and Dominic was on it.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Did you write to him? No, but this is what he wrote about himself to entice you to write to him. Would you like to hear it? No. Good night Seattle. Hi, I'm in prison. No way. Considering meeting me is very Audrey Hepburn of you. What? I have been incarcerated since the age of 17. At that age, people naturally go their separate ways. What my situation did not destroy, I sabotaged myself, believing the world's better off without me. Boo, fucking who?
Starting point is 00:50:03 My mom abandoned us when I was four. Growing up, I was painfully shy, total stage fright, and any interaction. This led to adopting liquid encouragement along with other social stimulants, which made for a good quick fix, but the bonds forged were not built to last. There you have the main ingredients
Starting point is 00:50:21 of my present isolation. Forgive me if that is TMI, but I felt that this should be a bit more personal than to say, oh, I don't know, forlorn, lonely prisoner of a man seeks lively chitchat. I'm into creative writing, playing guitar. I'm in between guitars at the moment, as detailed in my semi-autobiography account on steemit.com. No, by how my, it is in the, his autobiography is called How My Guitar Caut Hepsy by Jiminy Hans Bob. It's a pen name, not my gangster name. That would be two-bit smick trouble.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Pause the entire show. Actually, literally just put her hand up. And backed away. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Two bits, Nick Trouble. Two bits, Nick Trouble. And luckily, he's physically active. He's an unbalanced yogi. And no matter how much he exercises, I remain built like a flamingo. What? I also love animals. Like anyone, I'm a work in progress. While I cannot tell you I'm an angel, I do make the effort.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Things I can take back or change motivate me nonetheless Too bad you can't take back killing someone with a boulder too bad like too bad. We can't take back your birth Like that's a bummer. Yeah, too bits McTribble bye-bye too bits big trouble see you Like are you bits McTribble in reverse? So this little shit is in that room We use this little shit is deep into that wound. Wee-hoo! This little shit stain
Starting point is 00:52:08 blames his mother leaving when he was four and his shyness as a kid on his present predicament. Like, yo, my mom is no peach either. But I didn't kill anyone with a boulder. Well, and that's it's like, obviously he has learned nothing so far. Because he is taking zero responsibility even now for what he did. He's just saying like, oh my mommy left and I was kind of shy.
Starting point is 00:52:32 So I did a ton of drugs. Whoops. That's how I ended up here. It's like no you ended up here because you're demon from the pits of hell and you killed it. So fuck him. But um, uh, Paul and Don Swini, Jason's parents set up the Jason Kiel Swini Foundation and Memory of Jason. This foundation funds a full scholarship to the Valley Forge Military School. That's the School of Jason's Dreams. He had wanted to attend it to become a Navy SEAL. He had actually been accepted into the school in 2001, but he couldn't afford the tuition. Oh, so that's why he was working along with his parents because they were
Starting point is 00:53:10 all trying to save up to send him there. Wow. And these fucking four fucktards took it away. Wow, just completely took it away. So that is the unbelievably tragic, horrific story of the murder of Jason Swini. I really hated that. I'm just surprised. I haven't heard about it from a lot of other, I don't think I've ever heard it. And I was like, this is such a bananas case. Where did you find it? Well, I had originally seen it a long, long time ago.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I had read about it. Yeah. Because I was just, I mean, this was in 2003. So I was in like, you're high school. So I was like literally probably just like surfing around true crime stories on the internet and I just happened to see this one like an article. And I remember reading it and thinking it was the most bonkers thing I've ever heard. And I remember specifically seeing the picture of Justina Morley and being like, tap, it's just scary looking. Yeah, she is.
Starting point is 00:54:05 They just stuck with me so I was like perfect mini-sode. I loved it. You just probably not just. Except hated it. Not mini-sode either. No, it's like an hour long. That's okay. So yeah, so hope you guys enjoyed and hated and are horrified by that.
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