Morbid - Episode 598: “Weirdos’ Audiobook Club” presented by Audible – My Best Friend's Exorcism with Special Guest, Sabrina From 2 Girls 1 Ghost!

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

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Hey Weirdos, I'm Ash. And I'm Elena. And I'm Sabrina. And this is a special edition of Morbid. Today we are doing the Weirdo Audiobook Club. Woo! You guys, this is brought to you by Audible. Our friends over there are helping us bring you this special episode and they're giving

you a little something something because if you go over to audible.com slash weirdos, you can get a free trial on audible and that's really exciting. So in this special bonus episode, we're going to be talking about the title, My Best Friend's Exorcism. It was written by Grady Hendrix, so let's talk about it. Yay! Yay! I'm such a woo girl right now. We're all being woo girls right now. We're whooping it up.

The energy. We're very woo. To friendship. It is woo woo. It is. It's a bit woo woo. It is. And spooky.

This title is something I'm really excited to talk to you guys about because it's all about like friendship. And spooky friendship. That's right. Spooky ass friendship. And demons. Yes. Our favorite.

Yay. That's how we became friends. It's true. The dark stuff. Spookies and demons and ghosties. Luckily, none of us has been demonically possessed yet. Not exciting. I have been around a demon. in ghosties. Luckily none of us has been demonically possessed yet. Not exciting.

I have been around a demon. My sister, we used to joke she was possessed, but she might've been. Maybe. Really? I also had someone, one, a previous relationship, wonder if I was possessed and that's why I was leaving. Wow. Do you feel like you were?

Possessed with something good. Yeah. Possessed with the new found Possessed with newfound strength. Yeah. I love it. What a way to justify someone leaving. You're like, well, you must be possessed by a demon. If you're leaving me.

Yeah. Obviously. That's the only way. Yeah. Well, I think we should start out first by just gushing over Grady Hendrix. Absolutely. I've never read a Grady Hendrix. Absolutely. I've never read a Grady Hendrix title before this and you two have. You guys are big fans.

I had seen Grady Hendrix like some of the films he's made. Yes. Like, Satanic Panic. Satanic Panic. Have you seen that one? Yes. So good. So good.

I'm a huge Grady Hendrix girl. I love his books, love his writing, love hearing him talk. His interviews are some of the funniest interviews you will ever read or hear. I was telling Alina, I don't know why, but he reminds me of Bill Nye. He has such good Bill Nye vibes. It's the vibes. You kind of want him to be your dad. And he's smart.

Yeah, I get that. You get that. You got it. I got it. And he's so like, he's very insightful, but he's also very unserious all the time, which is fun. I love people like that.

That's my favorite kind of person. We were just talking a minute ago about the dedication of this book, which was hilarious. Cause the dedication, I feel like I need to read it. Yeah. So I had to write this down after I listened to the title because the dedication in this book, Sabrina had brought it up and I was like, wait a second, we had to look up what

this meant. What it was? Because it says, for Amanda, who knows the reasons why? And there's an asterisk next to it. And then underneath it says, but if she doesn't, I would suggest she have her attorney consult both protective orders filed against her. The criminal complaint, which outlines these reasons in great detail and maybe also her conscience because disclosing the whereabouts of the bodies will finally bring some kind

of closure for my family. So all of us were like, who the fuck is Amanda and what does she know? Who the fuck did she kill? Seriously, it turns out Amanda is Grady Hendricks, his wife. And that's all in good fun. He dedicates every book to her, every title to her, and he always makes a joke. That's love. I love that.

I loved it so much. It's the best. I think that shows you right there what you're getting into with a Grady Hendricks book. It really does. And it's funny because with this title in particular, I wanted, it's like such a different way of going about like a possession story. It is. Because we're used to, and I've never thought of it this way, but I read an interview with

Grady that said, he was like, most of these stories are from the point of view of like a priest. The exorcist. Yeah. Like having his faith tested because he's trying to exercise this demon. And he said, it's always some like young girl or some young woman tied to a bed.

Right. Possessed by a demon. And there's just this old man screaming at her. Right. And he's like, I'm kind of over that. Right, it's been done. Yeah, so he said he wanted to do it from the point of view of the,

is it the demoniac I think it's called? I think you're right, yeah. Is the person that is possessed view of the, is it the demoniac, I think it's called? I think you're right, yeah. Is the person that is possessed. Which I love that, the demoniac. The demoniac. I think that's how you say it. If it's not, that's how I say it. That's how we say it.

Right? I feel like that's the only way. It's like saying craven, a crow raven, demoniac. Yeah, exactly. You don't know if it's a crow, if it's a raven, it's a craven. Yeah. I agree. It actually, this is like the combo I kept putting in my head.

It's like Pen 15 met Jennifer's body. Yes. That is so funny because so many people have put two things like that together to describe this book and they all work. Like somebody said, what was it? Heather's and he says Beaches meets the Exorcist. like that together to describe this book and they all work. Like somebody said, what was it? Heathers and- Heathers is a good one. He says, Beaches meets the Exorcist.

That's, I mean, not with- And I think it's like Heathers and the Exorcist or Heathers and the Exorcist. I think it was Heathers and the Exorcist, yeah. All of those things work. It also made me want to so badly go back and find my like 17 magazines, quizzes that I had taken and find the answers that I would put back

when I was that age. It really- Nostalgia bomb. Yeah, brought back the nostalgia. Yeah, I was asking Alina, when you were listening to it, were you like answering the questions? Oh, absolutely. I love it.

I truly, I went through and I found the questions and I wanted us to answer them. We should. We were thinking that too. That's a great idea. Well, I saw somebody say that they were answering them as Abby to see, and they were like, it's making her look kind of unhinged.

So like, is Abby the problem? The whole time I was listening, I was like, it does suck because poor Abby is the one who now looks like she's crazy. Right. Yes. And nobody is listening to her whatsoever. Like one of the parts that like broke my heart the most is when she actually,

and there's gonna be spoilers on this just so you guys know. Yeah. One of the parts that broke my heart the most was when she sits down finally with like Mr. and Mrs. Lang and starts to talk to them about what's going on. And she's talking to them about like

some really serious stuff like trigger warning. She's talking to them about rape. And they're like, don't say that about our daughter. You did drugs with her. You're the problem. Get out of our house. We'll have you arrested if you say that to anyone else. Right, you're on drugs.

Yeah, and they tell everyone else that she's on drugs. Yeah, like they call her school and say she's on drugs. And she's on scholarship. So they like purposely, and that's like a big thing in this too. call her school and say she's on drugs. And she's on scholarship. Right. So they like purposely, and that's like a big thing in this too. And that's why I like Abby's mom, I felt had such good, like she had good advice for Abby. It was just like being given in the wrong way. I think a lot of times, or she just wasn't able to take it in when she needed to.

Yeah. Because one of the things is like Abby's on scholarship at this private school and Gretchen's family is very wealthy. All her friends' families are very wealthy. And Abby's mom at one point is like, you shouldn't be hanging out with these people. These wealthy people can pay themselves out of their problems. And if you're with them, we can't do that. You'll be the scapegoat.

They'll throw it on you. And it's exactly what happened. Mama knows best. and if you're with them, we can't do that. So you'll be the scapegoat. They'll throw it on you. And it's exactly what happened. Mama knows best. And I was like, Abby's mom, Mary. I think her name is Mary. It is Mary. I think, damn.

Yeah, I think that's one of the major themes in this is like the class differences between everybody. And you see it all became her problem. Yeah, it did. But shout out to Abby for being the realest friend out there. The realest friend. And the most resilient human being because the amount of time it took for her

to actually break and then even when she breaks, she's not broken. Like she's like, I'm gonna go back for more. No, she's still like, yeah, I'm gonna keep doing this. It's like she put up boundaries with Gretchen, but then she would break the boundary when it needed to be broken. I know. Like she was like, the boundary when it needed to be. I know.

Like she was like, I was like, you're okay. Oh, at the end, just like the beautiful friendship story. Oh my God. I cried at the end. I did too, it's emotional. It's beautiful. It's so beautiful. She was holding her hand and like, oh. I think that is one of the most beautiful things

about this title is that it has every element and Grady captured one, the like nitty gritty and like the complexities of friendship, especially in high school and like going through that evolution in life on top of terrifying us with the exercising and the demonic possession stuff and moments like the fricking tapeworm. We'll never forget that.

But then pulling out your heartstrings. Yeah. Yes. No, definitely. And there's no fucking love story in it, which made the love story was with the friends. That made me happy. I love that.

I love that. Disturbed, I don't know. But like, No, you need more things like that. Right. Female friendships. It was beautiful. Exactly. And he's really like that. Right, female friendships. Yeah. It was beautiful. Exactly.

And he's really, he did such a good job. Yeah. I've seen people say that they had no idea this was written by a man. Yes. You would never know. You would not know. Because it was like little things, like I think we were talking about it earlier.

It was like, you know, when the, cause this takes place in the eighties. So he puts a lot of things from the eighties and they're like the satanic panic of it all. Like 80s culture. 80s culture. Roller skating. Roller skating. Like all the it's cool.

And one of them is the, they're like gym teacher, whoever it is, talking to them about Bartles and James wine coolers. Oh my God. I love that part. Yes, that is hilarious. They're like super sweet and they taste so good and they'll sneak up on you because they have lots of alcohol in them. But he's only, they're only super sweet and they taste so good and they'll sneak up on you because

they have lots of alcohol in them. But they're only talking to the girls. And then the next thing you know, you'll lose your precious gift. Your precious gift. And they keep saying it just to the girls. This is your responsibility to not have yourself taken advantage of. And once you lose your precious gift, you won't be worth anything. Which is a dumb fucking idea altogether.

Oh, 100%. And the girls are hearing this and Abby's like, so she turns to, remember she turns to Gretchen and she's like, wants to say like, your precious gift. And she's like, I wanted it to be something that we said to each other, like the hefty, hefty, hefty. Make it a thing. And I was like, that's such like, girl friendship.

It is. It's like, that's such like, girl friendship. It is. It's like you latch onto this one phrase, and you'll just use it forever with each other. And it was little things like that, like nuances, that he got so well. You know what it is? Yeah. He captures the religion of being a teenage girl. Yes. Like what their religion is.

Not like, like there are themes of religion throughout with actual Jesus-based religion, but aside from that, and I think the more important religion and the one that was highlighted here is the religion of your friendships with your girlfriends in high school. And like girl code. Yes. And that's one of the things he had said,

I've seen him in interviews say that, regular possession stories are again about a priest and you know, like a demon and faith being tested. And he was like, but it to me, like in high school, your most important thing and you're the thing that, you know, grounds you and the thing that you look to for hope and whatever and faith are your friends and your relationships. And that's why, like, you know, in the end, it's not like a religious exorcism that takes this demon out of her. It's their friendship and their bond and their love for each other. Exactly. It's their history. And it is one of those like phrases, catchphrases almost that they

use to help. Exactly. It's like all that silly stuff, like, you know, the power of Phil Collins compels you or whatever it is. She's like, I love you queerly and I love you dearly. All of that is what takes this demon out. And I was like, that is such... It's amazing. It's such a unique way of looking at a story like this. And it's like, I would listen to this title a hundred more times. Same.

The other thing is the narrator of this title, it's performed by Emily Woo-Zeller. Yes. I like to say that she has a voice like an anti-demon. The other thing is the narrator of this title, it's performed by Emily Woozeller. Yes. I like to say that she has a voice like an anti-demon. An anti-demon indeed. Her voice was so soothing. How beautiful and ironic, but in the best way. Yeah.

No, she did a great job. I love when she does the boy parts, cause she does like all the parts when you're listening to the title. And when she does the boy, she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, but it's Wallace. But it's like really well done. Yeah, like he it's Wallace talking and I'm like. Really well done. Yeah, like he does sound like that.

You're like, that is Wallace. Fucking Wallace, meet that. I found myself in certain parts because I just needed to know what happened. I like to listen at like 1.5 speed, but there were certain parts where I would slow it down because I needed to like just capture every sentence and every word and hear all the disturbing things.

Yes. Yes. And you know it's a good title all the disturbing things. Yes. And you know it's a good title when you do that. Right. You want to like really take it in. Immerse yourself into it. It was one of those titles where like you want to get to the end, you want to know what happens, but I remember being like finished with it and I was like, I don't want to be finished with it.

The post-title depression. Yes. And what's cool about like, and Grady does this really well in all of his titles. He has such a way of like balancing comedic elements, like levity, moments of levity with extreme horror. It's not like it's like, he's a little spooky over here and like, this is really funny. It's like, no, he's going to like ruin your life in one chapter and then the next chapter he's going to be like, now breathe. And it's like the perfect balance of it. He's like the radio silence of writing.

100%. Which is like high praise everybody. Because they're so good at balancing that levity in horror. It's a talent. And it's like what they do, like that is what they're known for and they are brilliant at it. And Grady has that talent. Like he has that skill. He gives you that,

and it's always that moment to just like catch your breath. And that's like, that's why horror is fun. Because you should get that moment of like, holy shit, what did we just see? Like what did we just hear? Cause there are moments. Yeah, cause there are moments where you holy shit, what did we just see? Like, what did we just hear? And then you breathe. Yeah, because there are moments where you're like, what is happening right now?

And then there are moments where you're cracking up. Like, I was laughing out loud listening to this, I looked crazy in my car. Because it almost, he has this beautiful way of almost making you feel like you are one of them. Like, you're a part of the girl group, you're there. Yeah, you're one of the friends. I'm saying that to Alaina because it's like, I feel like a lot of times in a title you

can say, oh, like I really resonate with that person or like, I'm definitely like this person. But I feel like when I was listening to this, I wasn't an Abby, I wasn't a Gretchen, I wasn't a Glee or a Margaret. Like there were little- You were an Ash. Yeah. And you're part of the group. Yeah you're in the group. Yeah, exactly. Or like I saw like a little piece of me in like all of them.

You know what I mean? Yeah, that's special. And that's how I felt. I felt like I was just me. I was just Elena in the group with them. Like watching this all happen and just seeing it with them, getting stressed out when things were happening, worrying about the relationships in the group. Right, like work it out you guys.

And I'm like, Margaret, stop being a bitch. Like, I was like, it's fine. Margaret was a bitch from the beginning. She really was. I mean, she was, right from the jump, I was anti-Margaret. Because of her horse party. Yeah. I don't want, like, who wants to go to your horse party?

I mean, she's calm and rude. Yeah, she was super rude. Yeah, yeah. And in the end, it sounds like, you know, she was what she was. She also kind of just like dipped. She did. Which makes sense. I. Yeah. Not in the end. It sounds like she, you know, she, she was what she was. She also kind of just like dipped. She did. Which, which makes sense. I get it. I think after that, it's like the fact that Gretchen and Abby were able to stay friends and Glee even tried for a little bit. Yeah. It sounds like we had some stuff going on. Yeah. It sounds like Glee was a wreck,

which I mean, who wouldn't be after that high school experience? Yeah. I mean, that's traumatizing. She tried to dive off a bell tower naked while throwing fake love letters from a priest. From what was written across her chest? She has 4U written across her chest in black marker. And she like jumps off naked and then the guards are trying to put a blanket over her and Abby's like, you know, for you is bouncing all over the place. Like. Oh my God.

And this is for like a young priest at their school. At their school. And the letters weren't even written by him. He had no idea. He had no idea. Honestly, he's the real victim in this story. Yeah, cause he looked like he was doing some shady shit. He lost his job and he was like, I can't talk to you.

Yeah. Yeah. What the hell? You know what's also scary is that I think like, I mean, I experienced some level of bullying, more middle school than high school, but there were people doing this shit not possessed by demons. Yeah. But you know, like I'm in middle school,

I had someone tell me that like a boy had a crush on me and he didn't. And like it was like, it was devastating in a, you know, a fraction of what happened in this title. But like, but it feels like everything. Yeah. At that moment. Yeah. Yeah.

When you're younger, everything is so much more heightened. Oh yeah. Like I've told on the, on the podcast before I've told the story in middle school that these girls invited me to a party and sent me to an abandoned house. Oh my God. Nothing will top that. And my dad was the one dropping me off. I was like so excited and my poor dad. Oh, Elena. He's such a real one. And he's such a real one. What did he do? He was like, I was like, I was like, what do you, he's like, let's go get ice cream. Like you can talk to me if you want to, but you don't have to.

I'm like sobbing and he's just like, let's get ice cream. And that's it. People are so mean. And they weren't even possessed by demons. Yeah. My sister, my sister's two years older and I so desperately like wanted to be her friend growing up. And one day she invited me to play with her and her friends.

And they said, we're going to play school, but this school ties you up. And they tied me up to her bedpost and left me there. And all went down into the basement to play. That's so mean. That's some real big sister shit. That is big sister shit. And at that point, I mean, like we joked

that she was possessed by a demon because there was one time where my dad like literally heard a demonic voice come out of her mouth like, get out. Well like, oh gosh, really, you just said that. Yeah. You're like, there was this one time that my dad heard this crazy thing.

It's a longer story, but we can get into it another day. But yeah, no, people can be mean. Yeah. Yeah. People. I have a story and it's only one little thing, but on AIM, which like the meanest stuff always happened on AIM, I mean AIM stories, but one that sticks out in my head was this new boy in my school that was so cute was his friends were like, he wants to date you. Like he's asking you out. And my mom was on the computer and was like, oh my God, yes, definitely, and answered the AIM for me.

And I remember I got home and she was like, Josh, like beep, asked you to be his girlfriend. And I said yes for you, cause I know like you think he's so cute. And I was like, mom, there's no way that's real. Like what have you done? It was a nightmare. Cause she was also demonically possessed,

I'm pretty sure. That is some demonically possessed parenting right there. But it just goes to show that I think everybody in middle school and high school at some point or another acts like a demon. Yeah. True. Or is the victim of a demon.

A demonic type of person. Yes. Truly, like wow, that's horrifying. Yeah, that was a bad one. Oh, that's person. Yes. Truly. Like, wow. That's horrifying. Yeah, that was a bad one. Oh, that's so sad. I know. It's horrific. And then I just go to school the next day and face that. I knew that that was fake.

I was messing with you. Yeah, like, ha, table's turned. Joke's on you. I mean, jokes on you now, so whatever. Jokes on you. Ha, ha, ha. But some of the nightmare parts in the book go way beyond any of our experiences. Truly.

It's, there's some part, I mean, I think we're all thinking we should talk about the nightmare parts and then we'll talk about our favorite parts to like kind of lighten the mood. The tapeworm. 100%. Takes the cake. The most like visual moment, like nightmare inducing moment. In the description. And how it kept coming.

Oh, it just kept on coming. And then the dog. Oh, the dog. The dog. The dog is a homie though. The dog is a homie. That is true. And all of that with the really,

like every time Riley showed up, the creepy brother, I was so scared for everyone. He was the scary, I mean, I'm not too scared about him. Although Riley did allow, the creepy brother, I was so scared for everyone. He was the scary, I mean, the two scary about him. Although Riley did allow Abby into the house despite knowing that he shouldn't have. That's true. That's very true.

I think he just didn't give a shit. And he's just sitting at the counter, like reading Hustler with peanut butter fingers. That's the part that bothered me the most. That he had peanut butter all over his hands. I was like, wash your hands. No, I agree. And he came in the room

and they said he got the peanut butter on the doorknob. And I was like, oh, and then she's like, and we could smell the peanut butter. And I was like, for Alaina, it was worse than that. And just then I was like, oh my God, I'm horrified. And then all of a sudden a tapeworm starts coming out of her mouth and she's heaving it out and the dog's grabbing it. And I was like, this is the worst nightmare. Right. What was it like 30 something feet worst nightmare. Oh my God.

Was it like 30 something feet long? It was ridiculously long. The longest tapeworm they'd ever seen. And then she had even more. Oh my God. Cause she probably had all the little tapeworm eggs. Yeah, cause she had, you're only supposed to drink one shake a day.

One shake total. Yeah. Oh, one shake ever. I thought it was one a day. She was having multiple a day. Cause they all had tapeworms in them. Yeah. And then there was, and like a close second to that was when Gretchen vomited out all the feathers.

Oh, the squirmy feathers. That was so weird. Yeah. The description was like pale milk. And it was like with squirmy black feathers in it. And I was like, what? Yeah. Like I can picture it.

There's a lot of puke in this story. Cause there's also pukes on the football field later on. It's a little less. And during the exorcism, there's some more puke. Yeah, and that puke is yellow. So it's all very well described. Yeah. How big did you picture the tapeworm, like girth-wise?

I pictured it so thick. Right. Me too. I pictured it barely being, like ripping her mouth open. Because I think it said at one point it was. Like inhumanly. Yeah. And I know tapeworms are traditionally like a white

and like they're thin. But I was picturing a very bulbous, like blood filled. Me too. Yes. I don't know why. Tapeworm. I pictured bulbous, like blood-filled. Me too! Yes. I don't know why. Tapeworm. I pictured white still, but like so thick. And when the dog was like trying to snap it

and it couldn't, oh God, it was awful. It made me think of The Troop by Nick Cutter. I haven't listened to that. Which I also highly recommend as a title to listen to. But forewarned. There's a tapeworm part. I just said that reminds me of it. But it's also a great book. But something about worms, just tapeworms and parasites and stuff freak me out.

My cat once had tapeworms because she had fleas and she had been eating the fleas and fleas I guess carry tapeworm eggs. Like even they'll eat tapeworm eggs. And it was gross because these little like rice grains would like be coming out of her butt because like the tapeworm would be like breaking off. Oh my God. Oh God, that's so horrible.

And the only way to get rid of them too is to like, you know, boost them out. Yeah, she had to take like a, I had to give her like medicine that like killed it. Yeah. Yeah. And then you expel it. Yeah.

But that was also the sad thing about this whole tapeworm situation is that she had a tapeworm, but her family was starving her. Yeah. Yeah. I think they were trying to starve the tapeworm. Cause I think like, I think that is like a belief that like it is possible

and then you'll, it'll like pass through your system. but I think they didn't realize that she had like 30 something tapeworms in her stomach. Oh my god. But there was a lot it's actually crazy when you look back on the title because there was a lot of like really foul disgusting stuff like when the exorcism actually takes place. Oh it's gnarly. The roaches and then she like I mean technically it's not Gretchen it's um Andros. I was wondering how you pronounce his name. I don't know. Is it Andros? I added a flair because it sounds like Andros.

I like it. But like he chomps down on the roach. Oh, oh, he's a, he's a wily one. He is a wily one. Yeah. Andros was funny too at times. Okay, wait. Well, that's the thing is demons like kind of got some sex appeal sometimes. And they're funny. That's why they get inside.

Yeah, it's true. That's how they... Badooms. Badooms. But also one of the horrifying parts besides like all the tapeworms and like the physical, you know, like body horror kind of thing was when it was like the really like chilling parts where like the birds are all slamming into the house. That part scared the crap out of me.

Yeah. I haven't even told my story. Oh my God. Yes. Well, that's it. So Andras is a, he's like, I guess he's known to have an owl head in a man's body. That's what the, cause it's a real like demon and demonology. Right. So I'm listening to the title. I'm driving home from my hair appointment, listening to the

title. What time of night is this? It's like 10 30, 11 o'clock at night. I have, I'm even creepy. It's like a tat. Well, I don't know if we'll be able to, cause I do swear a lot in it, but we need to put a voice note up somewhere. You guys, I crap you, shit you not. I'm driving down my road about to go home and I see a fucking owl standing in the middle of my neighborhood. I've never seen an owl in my life before other than like at the zoo. And what are the odds that I'm listening to this title

where they're talking about an owl demon. And there's an owl. Horrifying. I'm never gonna be over it. It's just Andrus being like, hey. Never gonna be over it. It's Andrus. And there's an owl. Horrifying. I'm never going to be over it. It's just Andrus being like, hey. Never going to be over it. What's up?

Because you've asked me the question, Alaina, before. I think it's a question people ask each other of how many owls would you have to see before you thought something was up? One. So, correct. And I always said one, too. I was like, I see one owl. I'm being like, what's going on?

I always said two because I'm like, one owl is not that crazy. One owl is that crazy. Especially given the fact that you're reading this title at the exact time, it's 10.30 at night. Yes. Yeah, no. It's like right outside your home. That feels invasive.

Luckily it was like a little bit far. I was like kind of in front of our neighbor. So like shout out to them. I don't know what you're going through. Yeah. I will say that whole book club scene Yes. was really unsettling. Oh my God. I don't know what you're going through. I will say that whole book club scene was really unsettling.

Oh my God. Cause Gretchen dresses up and starts singing at the top of the stairs. Doesn't she push him too? Yeah, he slaps her and then she pushes him down the stairs. And it's like, as all the birds are slamming into the house and the owls are tearing them apart like the Pelican and shit. And Gretchen's mom is drunk. And Abby's like, I have to go work at the

yogurt shop. And then there's another lady. There's like two ladies reciting the Lord's Prayer. I was like, this sounds like- Over stimulation. When I say over stimulation station, I would be in orbit. like I would be gone. Yeah, I don't know how Abby didn't like, I mean, eventually she does run out of there, but damn. I would lose my mind. It's horrifying. It's so scary.

Unsettling is the best way to describe that scene because there is so much happening. Yeah. And that's also early on in the story where no one even believes that it's an exorcist or a demon situation. Yeah, and you don't even, like, you're not really sure yet. Aside from the name of the title of, you know, you wouldn't know.

But you wonder if there's like a twist or something. Well, you're wondering if it's like, like symbolizing something else. If it's like a metaphor for some kind of transformation, like when your friend is not your friend anymore. When people evolve. Which it kind of, it does do both. It is, yeah, it's perfect for that.

I think it's a metaphor in a lot of different ways. Absolutely it is. And also, while we're talking about like the actual possession itself, there's a lot of theories out there as to if Gruchin was possessed in the woods, like after they dropped LSD, or if she was possessed even before that at Bible camp. And then it really just started to like ramp up. Yeah, that's actually,

cause you brought this up before we were recording and I was like, should we wait? But I, cause I fully believed it happened in the woods. Me too. Because in my mind, it was like, they were, it could have been Abby. I thought that like had Abby gotten lost, it would have been her. But that's interesting, especially given the Andy conversation thing.

Like, who was she talking to? I need to go back and listen because what I saw, I was on like a couple discussion boards, just kind of like reading what other people were theorizing. And what they were saying was that she mentions talking to Andy, like before, before she gets quote unquote, possessed in the woods, like before you're led to believe that she gets possessed in the woods. And then he says, Oh, I haven't talked to her since summer camp. Right. So it's like, so I think she had to have been possessed probably at summer camp. That's so interesting.

Yeah. Yeah, because it's like a viable summer camp. Because Abby even says like she's annoyed by the fact that Gretchen has this like boy that she met at summer camp and now prioritizes. Yeah, but then at the same time, she says she's talking to Andy. Is she calling Andress Andy?

Like to try because obviously it's not Gretchen. Yeah, because that would make sense. You know? This also brings up a point when Abby does call the number that she thinks is Andy's and Gretchen answers. Gretchen's like soul answers. Yeah. So there's a part, I just got chills.

That was chilling. That part was, because that confuses me a little bit. So that confused me too, but I found another fucking thing on the discussion boards because I didn't even catch this and I wonder if you did. Alaina did catch it. So when... So Gretchen's soul essentially is like trapped in the phone lines because... Which also kind of makes you wonder, was it?

Did she get possessed out there? Because when she is in like that that little shack in the woods, remember she sees that little phone, how would I describe it? The phone company thing? The phone company logo. And she hears that buzzing, electrical buzzing. And it's the same buzzing that she hears

when she calls that number. Okay, so this is interesting. So what if it did happen at Bible camp and then she is talking to Andres on the phone and like basically they swap places. Like she led Andres into her and her soul is now like stuck in the phone line. Yeah, I could see, I think I see what you're saying.

Like a Bible camp if she, like, cause one of the things that they say during the exorcism, it like brother lemon, which we will get into brother lemon, hero of the century. He said during the exorcism that like, you're going to be kind of like open and raw during this exorcism. Cause we're going to be like saying all these Bible verses and like all these powerful things that like, you know, using our faith and that's gonna leave you open to being possessed yourself. Right. So what if at Bible camp, she became raw and open from being exposed to all that she was exposed to there.

She came back, they dropped LSD, she got lost, she went to that little cottage in the woods and there's some kind of thing there. It does seem like there was a trigger there. And that was where it entered and that's why you can communicate with that part. And maybe it was like the phone lines because of the electricity. Right. Yeah. But maybe it all did begin Bible camp when she became like raw and open to it.

That's the thing, when I was listening, it was just like all, most of that was just lost on me. And I just assumed that she dropped LSD, she jumped off and there, maybe there was like some kind of portal to that. Yeah, right. Especially because people had used that shack for satanic rituals. Yeah. But now I think I'm a full believer that it happened at Bible Camp. Me too. I think it all began there. Yeah. You guys have to let us know what you think like, yeah, I want to see.

I'm curious. Because Yeah, I wanna see. Because also I read that like Andy's last name is Solomon, which is referencing King Solomon. Which is hella biblical. Which in the Bible, I guess he became like in some parts in some thoughts, he became a powerful king through the help of demons. Like demons helped him.

Grady. So this makes me love Grady even more. It's so deep. It's so smart, yeah. He just kills it with that stuff. Like you go back and you're like, shit, like you don't know what you're doing. Like it's so impressive.

It is. Well, we talked about our nightmare parts and I guess we kind of talked about some of our favorite parts even just like through that, but let's go deeper into our favorite parts. Okay. I mean, the lemon brothers. The lemon brothers.

Bodybuilding for God. And that's a real thing. Yeah. Bodybuilders, what is it? It's a bodybuilders for Christ. For Christ. Is a thing. I've seen it on Instagram.

Yep. Bodybuilding for Christ. I mean, you can do anything for Christ. You absolutely can. Pretty much. Yeah. If you really think about it. It's a whole thing. There's a hashtag, Bb4 anything for Christ. You absolutely can. Pretty much. Yeah. If you really think about it.

It's a whole thing. There's a hashtag, BB4Christ, number four. BBC. BB4Christ. BBFC. It says, welcome to Bodybuilding for Christ where faith and fitness unite. So they're like real- It's like really pretty much what they said.

They honor God with their bodies. I mean, they were fucking fit. Like I loved the moment where it's the school assembly and they asked the, what's the guy's name? I'm- Wallace. It's almost like non-memorable because F Wallace. But they ask all the guys to come up and lift the thing. And then the guy does it by himself, Brother Lemons. Like took four of you guys.

And he does like the, he like puts it like the cross. Yeah, he had to do it in the shape of the cross. He's like, it's stronger in a cross. The power of Christ allows me to do anything. And they're just like delightful. Like they are delightful. I love them. And he's always talking about his daddy.

And his daddy was the one who, yeah, he just loves his dad. Were you guys ever second guessing him when he showed her like all the stuff that he had in his van for the exorcism? And the GHB part, like how there was like two baggies and she was like, why are there two? I was a little worried that like it might be taking a turn and like maybe we were being led to believe that he was like a helpful exorcist and really he was going to turn out to be like another demon. I had a moment of wondering if he had some nefarious intent with the band, but it was only a second.

After, I honestly, I never doubted him because of his strength. Because of his strength. Because of the power of Christ and all. I only doubted him when the exorcism was actually happening. Yeah. And I think he just lost himself in it. And later he says it. Yeah, that's why he does was actually happening. Yeah. And I think he just lost himself in it. And later he says it.

Yeah, that's why he does what he does. I don't want to, I mean, can I spoil? I don't know. I mean, we've spoiled pretty much everything. It's such a big spoil. I feel like when he takes the blame. Yeah. And he says, I think he mentions how he won,

he trained for two years for the most muscles in the entire universe competition or whatever it is. And he says, and he trained for two years for like the most muscles in the entire universe competition or whatever it is. And he says, and he's like, and I can't remember what music I was listening that I played while I did that competition. I was training for two years, but I can remember every second of me, like launching salt into that girl's face. The boiling water. And like the boiling water. Like, and then when he was asking for the, what was it? Ammonia? I was like, Oh my God, she's gonna die.

Like, no, like now you're killing her physical body. That got so scary. That was a horrific part. That is the scary thing about exorcisms generally because, and I think has brought up a lot of debate about how like moral some of these exorcisms are because yeah, there's like, sometimes like four muscular people holding down like this tiny frail body

and like breaking bones of people in the name of exercising a demon, but like... But how far... How far is too far. Right, exactly. It's a fine line, I would say. Yeah, definitely. And you can tell, like, he reached that point, was like, I have to go,

like I have to go get my dad. And just the way that he turns himself in and he's like, oh, he's so sweet. And then the conversation that they end up having years and years later, that was one of the most wholesome moments ever. I know. I'm glad that they had that they could reconnect. I'm so glad they had that. And then the other wholesome thing that absolutely just ruined me. I also cried listening to this part because Abby's dad the whole way through like you can tell she loves her dad. She loves her parents,

but she has a tough relationship with them. And her dad never does anything. Like he's very passive even in the meeting where the mom tells off major. He's like, he gets a little snippy. He does have a little funny thing in that one. When she says like, he never liked you. And then she's like, you always kissed up and kicked down to him. And she's like, we never liked you. And the dad says, now that's not entirely true. I just never thought about you long enough to develop an opinion. And I was like, oh, but it's worse. The first part of his personality come through. And I was like, I think I might like this guy. And then when I knew I fucking loved this guy I think I might like this guy. And then when I knew I fucking loved this guy,

was at the end when obviously like, so Abby and Gretchen get separated because like it's this whole big court case. And I mean, people think that, have you tried to kill Gretchen and yada, yada, yada. You know that whole thing. But you can't keep two best friends apart. So they find a way to each other.

And Mr. Lang, Gretchen's dad is like super pissed off about it. And finally Abby's dad just tells him off and is like, dude, they're going to be friends through whatever. If they can figure out how to pay the phone bill, and if they want to write letters to each other, let them. Yeah, like, who are we to keep them apart? Yeah.

And he's like, can't you see it's tearing them up inside? Like he says, like, I'm seeing it tear my kid up. Like, I can't do this. Because there is no love, like, of best friend. No. Really, truly. It's true. That was one of my absolute favorite parts. up, I can't do this. Because there is no love like a best friend. Really, truly. It's true. That was one of my absolute favorite parts.

Oh, I loved that. It was great. And I loved during the exorcism when Brother Lemon there, I just loved the way he's like, his lines are some of the funniest things. They really are. Because he's so serious about them, but he says, I'll be doing some serious blasting of prayer.

You're not girded with the full armor of God, you might not make it through with your soul and time. Like he's such a meathead. He is. But also like God meathead. Like it's this weird combination that you wouldn't necessarily put together. I'm going to do some serious blasting of prayer. It's just like, what?

Absolutely incredible. Did you catch the little true crime reference at the end when he's wearing Joey Budafuco pants? Oh, I did hear that. Remember, Joey Budafuco's mistress was the Long Island Lolita, and she tried to assassinate his wife after a years long affair.

I didn't know that. Wow. Yeah, it was a little rough there. But he's wearing Joey Budafuco pants. With those little Easter eggs. So good. So Corinne and I ended up talking to Chad and Carrie Hayes, who wrote the the first Conjuring film and like House of Wax and stuff like that. They went to this town in India, and I'm forgetting the name. I think it starts with C, but it's literally a town where they perform exorcisms.

Wow. And they went to this town, they went up to this like church and they're performing all these exorcisms. And the guide that they were with was like, either of you wanna be possessed by a low level demon? Because- A low level demon. And they're both like, nah, I'm good.

But like, because they're just exorcising demons, there is this question of now what happens to the demon. Where do we put them? Right, because it's like a tapeworm, which is also an interesting thing in the story. Good point. It needs, in order to survive, it needs a host. Needs to feed off someone.

So where does Andres go? I mean- Part two. Yeah, I'm saying- We need a second book already. We do. I know, he said he doesn't do sequels. He's not a sequel guy. He said he loves sequels. You never know. But he said he doesn't do sequels. He's not a sequel guy. He said he loves sequels.

You never know. But he doesn't, he said he doesn't do them. Just don't call it a sequel. Don't call it a comeback. The Southern Book Clubs Guide to Slaying Vampires, another title by Grady Hendrix, takes place in the same neighborhood. But he said this book is about the kids. That one's about the adults.

Well, and so I was asking Elena. I did not realize that. This book is about the kids that one's about the adults. Well, and so I was asking Yeah, I was asking because I wonder if the book club is the book club that Abby's mom or sorry Gretchen's mom was getting drunk. So he like that is wild and it's a great title Yeah, you know what's interesting is I didn't realize that that took place in Charleston. And I almost feel like the town of Charleston plays such a large role in this title. In a way it didn't in that one because it was more about the community and the book club.

Whereas this was, I think, like economics did play a lot more of a role in this title. So how Charleston, I love the way that he, that Greta describes like Charleston is all these like massive beautiful homes that are on the outside. And so maintained. But the second you go inside, they're like decrepit

and people are losing so much money trying to keep them alive. Which is like a metaphor for all these families. Absolutely. So true. Yeah, plays a huge role in it. And there's even like, they talk about a girl that there's like a rumor she got like,

Molly. Sacrificed by like Satanists. Yes. In that shack, right? Yeah, in that shack or near that shack, like in those woods, definitely. And her name is Molly Ravenel. And if you watch Southern Charm on Bravo.

So many Southern Charm shoutouts lately. I was gonna say, we're hitting Southern Charm all the time. And it's like the Ravenel Bridge and like the Ravenel is like a huge name in Charleston. And in politics, like for a minute. They're like a political family there. Like there's a Ravenel Bridge in Charleston, like all that. Can we talk about the body? One, the baby, but then also they were saying Molly's body was buried.

Like they kind of plant it, but you never go into it. Where Gretchen's like, we need to dig her up. And give her a Christian burial. Yeah, yeah. I am curious that if they actually went to that spot, would her body be there? I know. Is it a rumor?

Is it real? And was that Gretchen saying that? Or was that Andrus trying to get Abby to go somewhere where she shouldn't have been? I think that was Gretchen saying that or was that Andrus trying to get Abby to go somewhere where she shouldn't have been? I think that was Gretchen still because I think she was still in the throes of not allowing Andrus to fully take over. But even when she's in that period, she does say things to Abby like, he tells me things about everyone else, even you. So he could have told her that. That's true, yeah.

And still be trying to lead her out there. I feel like it was a way to lead her some place she shouldn't have been because he specifically really wanted to destroy Abby because I think he saw her obviously and rightfully so as the biggest threat. Yeah, he knew that she could be the one to expel him. No one loves to be the best friend. That baby in the bag is like...

Okay, wait, that can go back to one of the scariest parts. Yes. First of all... Disturbing. Max. Oh, Max. Good God. Max.

DoesTheDogDie.com. Yes. GoodDogMax is one of the most brutal things about this. No one prepared me for that. I was not ready. Even Gretchen says like that's the one thing she can't get over. Yeah. But also the one thing that's kept them friends for as long as they were able to be is that

Abby is the only one who knows that that wasn't Gretchen. Everyone else thinks she's just a bitch. Good boy Max. Good boy Max. Good boy Max. He was so dumb with the maxi pads all stuck to him. I loved that dog. Good boy Max. Good boy Max. Good boy Max and he was so dumb. It broke my heart. With the maxi pads all stuck to him. I loved that dog.

It reminded me of Blanche. I was just gonna say, he had such Blanche vibes. And I was like, no. And he's just like breaking into the neighbor's trap. Yeah, he's just living. So sad. He's just living his life. Oh, it broke so hard.

For one out for him. Yeah, truly. Truly, that was, yeah. I think that was like the biggest. Yeah. That destroyed me. Yeah, truly. Truly. That was, yeah, I think that was like the biggest. Yeah. That destroyed me. Yeah. Whose baby was it though?

Sorry, going back to that, because I feel like I cut myself off to my hair. It was from that, when they go see that like body farm kind of place. Oh, okay. There was a bucket full of them. So it was basically like a specimen, like a donated medical specimen

that somebody stole, Gretchen stole. Because there was a moment, I think because it was basically like a specimen, like a donated medical specimen that somebody stole. Because there was a moment, I think because it was so shocking that I was like, like, whose baby is this? I was like, are we not going to talk about that? She killed a baby. Like, what the hell? Yeah, it was that it must have been a donated specimen. Yeah.

Yeah. The cadaver lab and then they stole it. So she was always going to be known as a baby stealer, a cadaver specimen. And that was like another thing that kept them tethered. Gretchen was the only one who knew that she didn't really actually do that. I did love during the exorcism, there's so many great moments during the exorcism,

it's such a crescendo for the whole thing. When it says Andrus blew an exhausted raspberry, I was like, Andrus, you're pretty raspberry. I was like, I lost it. I was like, Andrus, you're pretty funny. Like, I was like, that's pretty good. That was an awful lot of bullets. He's just like, like, it's like a lot. And then he said, and when she was like,

I know who you are, you're Andrus, you're like the purveyor of hell or whatever you are. And he says, so you've heard of me, so fucking what? I was like, I love Andrus. Big deal. I was like, shit, if you weren. And he says, so you've heard of me, so fucking what? I was like, I love it. I was like, shit, if you weren't like really mean, this, I think we can hang out. Possessing her best friend. If you weren't a demon possessing my best friend,

we can hang out. You got to be a pretty funny. I would love to like sit down and interview a demon. Yeah, that would be interesting. That would be really cool. I don't think that's possible, but. No. A girl can dream, a girl can dream. Someday.

We'll do it. We'll get there. We'll get there. We'll figure it out. Where there's a will, there's a way. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Did you guys know that this has also been made into a movie? Yes.

I really, we should do like a movie night. Oh my God, we should. I just picked it for my scream pick. So we should watch it. So now we have to watch it. Yeah, we have 100%. We do it for spooky Halloween night. I love it.

Okay, perfect. Okay, perfect. I'll host it if you guys want me to. Okay. But if it wasn't a movie, I have cast the entire thing and so has Elena. Yes. The entire thing, meaning the four main girls. Yes. The entire thing. That has Elena. The entire thing meaning the four main girls.

Yes. Literally the whole plot. So for Abby, I did Mae Whitman. That's great. That is a great one. I feel like I just pretty much pictured somebody like Mae the whole way through. Like you were saying, I don't picture

famous people as the characters, but when you go back, you're like, yeah, she would fit. Yeah, I could see that. For Gretchen, I did Anya Taylor-Joy. Love her. I love her. Because I feel like she is like so unique looking that specifically possessed, she would scare the shit out of you.

Horrifying. Oh, yeah. And then Margaret, I did Kiernan Shipka, who plays Sabrina. I love that one. Because I just feel like Margaret like definitely had like pretty girl privilege. And I feel like Kiernan is so pretty. Right. That you know, you could see that.

You could see that. I could see that. And then for Glee, I didn't, I had a hard time kind of, I don't know about you guys, I had a hard time picturing Glee throughout. I think that the name was hard for me. Yeah. Like I kept picturing the show every time.

Me too. I was like, wait, who's Glee? And then I had to get, get back. Yeah. So I had a hard time, but every time. Me too. I was like, wait, who's Glee? And then I had to get back. Yeah. So I had a hard time, but every time she was brought up, I did picture somebody with like brown hair and like a, I don't know, I just pictured like a Lily Collins, I think.

Hmm, okay. A very pretty Glee. Yeah, pretty Glee. So that's my cast. I feel like they're all pretty girls, you know? Just a group of pretty gals. Pretty Southern Carolina girls. Yes.

See mine, I thought of Abby, I thought Maya Hawk. I could totally see that. Maya Hawk does have that vibe. Yeah, I like that. Especially her character in Stranger Things. I could see being Abby. That's exactly what I was thinking of. And Gretchen, I thought I couldn't decide

and Mikey gave me one of these and I was like, I can't decide between this now. Because I was thinking Zendaya. Which didn't Grady Hendricks say. And Grady Hendricks actually said he would cast Zendaya as Gretchen. And then Mikey brought up Sadie Sink from Stranger Things, Max. And I thought she would be great too. I could see either of those. I also see Sadie Sink as Glee.

Yeah, actually that might be a decent one too. Maybe could see either of those. I also see Sadie Sink as Glee. Yeah, actually that might be, that's a decent one too. Maybe that's how it works out. Maybe that is how so we still get her in the movie. Yeah. Because then I had to go back because for Margaret and Glee I was struggling. Yeah. It was tough. And for Margaret I was like, let me go back in time. And I'm going to say, Thorah Birchch from like now and then days. Yes. Right. Okay. I mean, this is your dream cast.

This is my dream cast. I can go back in time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it all works out. The time machine exists in this scenario. Exactly. Exactly. Because then Glee, Christina Ricci.

Oh. I think that would be pretty good. Because couldn't you picture her like jumping off the bell tower? I could picture her dramatic actress. Oh, very. You know, very much so. Yeah. I think you did a really good job. Thank so. I think you did a really good job.

Thank you, I think you did a really good job. Thank you. I think you both did a really good job. Thank you. Especially because I didn't do it. You both did perfect. We'll just smash them together. I do feel like a Wallace would be one of the rap boys that are in right now.

Oh my God, who would he be? He would be fucking, what's his name? I'll choke you, but I know killer baby. Oh, that guy. Jack. Harlow. Jack Harlow. Would be Wallace.

Yeah. Wow, yeah. I feel like the whole Euphoria cast could be like cast in this. I feel like Angus would make a great Wallace, even though he's so beautiful. Actually, no, actually Wallace was too kind to be Ayes. I was gonna say, I think he's like, he's too kind.

He's not a, yeah. Okay, who's brother Lemon? Who's brother Lemon? Okay. Oh, we gotta think of a meathead, like a lovable meathead. Brother Lemon, a lovable meathead. Oh, like a Zac Efron?

Especially like him from Iron Claw. Zac Efron now, I it would be, yes. It would definitely be a Brother Lemon, I could see that. Yeah, I think he was. Actually, I think Zac Efron might be the best. Yeah, it's Zac Efron. It's Zac Efron. See, you did it.

You did it. He did it, to be honest. He did it. He's like, Zac did it. Yeah, exactly. He did the work for me. All right, so to end, let's answer the questions from the quiz.

Yeah. Because there's little... The quizzes that appear throughout the title. Throughout they have the quizzes. From like the, you know, the teen magazine that they're reading. Do you remember doing these? Of course. My whole life was doing these.

Yes. Okay. Should I read the first one? Yes. Are you driving away your best friend? You both swore to study for the big English test together. Suddenly she cancels. Do you?

A. Assume she got a better offer and spend the afternoon feeling rejected. B. Blow it off. Sometimes these things happen. C. Call her and demand she tell you the real reason why. Or D. Give her the silent treatment. If she won't study with you, you won't talk to her. Honestly, probably make sure of the first and the last one. I would feel like super rejected

and then give the silent treatment. I would call in demand to know the real reason. I knew that you were gonna say that. I would blow it off sometimes these things happen. All right, so we all are kind of there. I do think like answering them now is one thing, but like sometimes, like I'll answer the next one, putting myself in like my high school.

My teenage self. Yeah. Yeah. I think my answer would still ring true for my teenage self, even for that first one. I think my teenage self would be like so heartbroken. Yeah. Like feel rejected. Yeah. That would have been my teenage self too. Yeah. All right.

So let's answer them as our teenage selves from this point forward. We should answer them as both. Yeah, there you go. Okay, all right, second question. Your best friend says she's stressed out and needs a break. So she's canceling your plans to double date this Friday. A, what a relief, you didn't want to go either.

B, this friendship is over. C, cancel your date and go to her house instead, she must need to talk. D, your poor date. go to her house instead. She must need to talk. D, your poor date. Now what else are you going to talk about on Friday night? I think high school. C, I'd be like, oh my God, what's going on? She needs to talk to me.

And now A, because I never want to go anywhere. Same, same. That's A would be me now, cause I'd be like, sweet. Awesome. As you're wearing a home body sweatshirt. As I'm wearing a home body sweatshirt. As I'm wearing a homebody sweatshirt. And I was going to say between C and D for teenage me. Yeah.

Because I was likely a lot more selfish then. So I probably would have been like, oh no. That's fair. Yeah. Because I'm going out, see ya. Going solo. Bye. I feel like A and C would ring true for me like back then and now.

Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Me too. Yeah. I probably. Me too. Yeah. I probably was each other one canceling because I was always grounded for like a month for nothing. Okay.

Your bestie shows up at school on Monday sporting a brand new do that she didn't tell you about. It's radical, it's expensive, and makes her look like a poodle. You A, tell her it looks great, that's what friends are for. B, pretend nothing's happened. After all, if you can't say something nice, dot dot dot. C, burst out laughing, at least it's not you. Or D, be brutally honest, someone's gotta say it.

I think probably I'd have less control in high school and burst out laughing, so C. And then now I would do A and just be like, if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. I do think it depends also on their reaction. And then now I would do A, and just be like, if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything. I do think it depends also on their reaction. Like if she thinks it looks great, then I would be like, yeah, it does. Or well, actually, even if she said it looks horrible, I'd be like, it doesn't look that bad.

Yeah, you look great. Like, well, grow out. So you just reassure her. Yeah. I tend to be brutally honest. Correct. But I don't ever wanna tend to be brutally honest. Correct. But I don't ever want to hurt someone's feelings ever. And I don't like yucking someone's yum. I don't think you're brutally honest. I think you're tactfully honest.

Thank you. I hope so. Because I don't like yucking someone's yum. And everyone needs a friend like that. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'll tell you for real if you need the real shit. Yeah. Like I will happily do that. And you've always been that way.

But I don't like to like bum someone out. Yeah. If I don't want an answer about something, I won't ask Alina. But if I need like a honest, like true, true answer, I'm like, what's up? You'll like tell me. Sometimes you won't ask it

because you know the answer you're gonna get. Exactly. And you don't want that. And I'm like, don't tell me that. I know what I'm doing. Okay, last one. Your best friend doesn't have time for you anymore. Do you, A, keep calling until she tells you why?

You deserve an explanation. B, respect her wishes. You don't want to be needy. C, tell everyone you rejected her first. Who does she think she is? D, refuse to accept it. This friendship is over when you say it's over. All right, so high school, C.

I'd be like, I didn't want to be her friend. And then now... That's like your mom answering the AIM. See? It rang true. And then now... I feel like be respect her wishes now, but not because I wouldn't want to be needy, just because I'd be like, all right, if you don't want to be my friend, then I don't want to

be your friend. Right. You know? I would probably, I'm like a, I would probably be A. You need an answer. I need an answer too. I'm a, like, give me, tell me, like, grow up, tell me what's going on so that we can snip if we need to snip.

That's me now. And that's me now. Especially if I did something wrong, like I deserve to know, because like, as a human being, I wanna grow. Like if I did something to hurt like I deserve to know because like as a human being I want to grow. Like if I did something to hurt you like please tell me. And then, but in high school slash middle school, I was such a pushover and like emotional that I always felt like I would have respected her wishes and not wanting to be needy and then just cry in the bathroom or something. I hate that.

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Yeah, we'll exercise you. Great. Thank you. I'll bring Brother Lemon. Let's go. Sack of Ron, let's go. Well, with that being said, guys, we hope bring brother lemon. Oh my god. Saca Fron, let's go. Well, with that being said guys, we hope you keep listening, we hope you enjoyed this, and we hope you keep it weird.

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