Morbid - Episode 70: The Survival Tale of Jennifer Morey Mini Morbid
Episode Date: June 2, 2019This story is one that needs to be told. Jennifer Morey survived everyone’s worst nightmare by using her strength, will and a little help from a brilliant and composed 911 dispatcher. This ...is a terrifying tale but we promise it has a happy ending. Sources: https://www.houstonpress.com/news/false-sense-of-security-6587121 I Survived Season 1 Go check out our spooky friends at MurderApparel.com and use our code MORBID for 25% off your order! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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So because this is a mini morbid we don't really do a lot of bidness
We just like to jump right into it.
But, but there is one little, like, little bit of crime news that I would just like to put out there
because we will be following the story. It's interesting because there seems to be like a rash
of these happening lately. I know, this is kind of actually becoming like an epidemic. Yeah, it's kind of scary actually.
This mother of five children in Connecticut has gone missing.
She's been missing.
Five kids.
Oh, shit.
Been missing for like over a week.
They just found out that she was going through a pretty like rough custody and divorce
battle with her ex.
There's a lot of money involved. There's just a lot of like messy shit involved. pretty rough custody and divorce battle with her ex.
There's a lot of money involved.
There's just a lot of messy shouldn't well.
And they just found evidence.
They're not saying all the evidence they found in the home,
but they did find evidence to suggest
that it is a homicide.
They have not found her.
They said they did find blood in the home
that had been wiped out,
but they're not releasing if it was hers or not.
But it went from a missing person's case to a homicide. So you know this something,
obviously to suggest that that is her blood. Right. Her name is Jennifer Dulo, so I believe she's
50 years old, and we will follow this as we get more stuff. And didn't you say it looks like he
owed her family a million dollars? Yeah. The job porch just came out that he had owed her in-laws one million dollars.
And now the children are with her parents in New York, I believe, and they're under armed guard.
Jesus.
Yeah.
So it's just a very, it's a very messy story, a very interesting one.
I would say I'm hoping for the best, but it doesn't look good.
No.
But we'll definitely update you guys because this is one of those interesting cases and it's kind of local to us, so. Imagine if you could learn someone a million dollars and like not worry
too much about it. I imagine if you just saw a million dollars. I don't even think I've seen like
$500 live. It's like live. It's the dream. It's the dream just to look at $1 million.
Can I just look at it?
Yeah, can I sniff it?
So let's just jump into the episode, shall we?
Yeah, because I don't know what you're doing.
That's my favorite part.
I love that part.
And it's an Alena mini-sode.
I think it might be a mini-sode, I don't know.
It's probably not.
It's probably not.
It's fine.
Hang in.
So April 15th, 1995.
1995. A year before you were born. See, Jennifer Maury, a young 25-year-old lawyer,
went out for drinks after work, and she stayed out for a bit, you know, just had some drink.
She didn't like a party or anything. And she was a super successful, like very smart woman.
She had just moved into this brand new apartment complex, like she was really super successful, like very smart woman.
She had just moved into this brand new apartment complex, like she was really doing well for herself.
You said she was 25.
25 years old, okay.
So she went out for a bit, she had some drinks,
a friend of hers brought her back home
and dropped her off at the Bayou Park apartment complex
in Houston, Texas.
Doubt it.
No, she did.
I'm kidding.
I was like, no, that part's real. Doubted. No, she did. I'm kidding. I was like, no, that parts real. She really did.
Now, she had chosen this complex specifically because it was huge on security. Oh, like she liked
because she was living alone. She was a young woman living alone. So she said, one of the main
things she was looking for was good security. This place had 24, 7 security coverage, like arm to guards, all
that good stuff. And the company that was the security company for this place was Pinkerton
Security, which is a very well known name. A lot of people know it. It's been around for
a long time. So just to give you, you know, an idea of how well-known Pinkerton security
is because it's important. Okay. We basically dates back all the way to 1850.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
When Alan Pinkerton, who was a Scottish immigrant,
opened a private investigation company,
and he called that Pinkerton Detective Agency.
In 1856, he actually hired the first female detective.
Yeah, he did go Pinkerton.
So, yeah, kind of ahead of his time,
she was a widow named Kate Warren.
And she apparently was amazing. And he actually respected her so much that when she died in 1868,
he buried her in his family's plot. Oh my god. Yeah. And of course, these are just like fun little
sides that Elena can never not give you. Yeah.
So also she's speaking in the third person, not Alaina.
Alaina.
Because sometimes people say that they got us confused and they're like, who's talking?
Hi, I'm Alaina.
Hi, I'm Ash.
So one of the most interesting facts about Pinkerton security is they were believed to have
foiled an earlier plot to assassinate Abraham Lincoln. Oh, shit. In 1861,
the company was in Baltimore. They were investigating, I think, some crazy rumors about people
who were sympathizing with the South and the Civil War, and you know how that all go when crazy.
So what was there? You know, the Civil War be crazy. Yeah.
Yes, it was there. You know, the Civil War be crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
And so during this whole thing,
they suddenly became aware of a plot to assassinate Lincoln
while he was on the whistle stop tour, whistle stop tour.
They actually warned the president
and they called on Detective Kate Warren
in a bunch of other detectives
to get him the president
on an overnight train to get out of Baltimore
to foil the plan.
This story sounds familiar.
It's really interesting, I had no idea.
He's this company in Alan Pinkerton
is sometimes credited with coming up with the term private eye.
And that's actually the company's logo.
It was an eye in the slogan we never sleep. I love that. Yeah.
So the Illuminati. No.
Actually, you know what? Who am I to say? Maybe they are. I'm not the Illuminati, so I don't know. Are you?
Let's move on.
They were also one of the first people to create like mug shots and like come up with the
idea of databases for criminals.
So they're very important to like modern day law enforcement.
They've been along for around for a long time.
People trust them.
People trust them rightfully.
Right.
So Jennifer Mory, she gets home.
She's pretty much just immediately goes to sleep.
It's pretty late. She does whatever you do before you go to sleep.
Face masks.
Me. I have some soy milk, you know.
So she also locked her windows, locked her doors, did everything you're supposed to do to ensure you are safe.
She listened to our podcast.
She did. She did everything right.
Okay, never mind. So this is the, that's the part, the
part that the fact that she did everything, you know, that
she was supposed to do to ensure that she was locked in her home
that night is the part that kind of like chills me to my bones.
So somewhere around three to four a.m. She woke up and she
felt pressure on top of her. No
She quickly realized this pressure was someone on top of her. Oh my god. Fuck that
She then immediately feels pressure on her neck and realizes there is a man on top of her
Straddling her and that he's holding a knife to her. Oh my god. No again. She locked herself into that place
She searched her home. She locked all the shit. She did everything she was supposed to do
Jennifer is a bad bitch and she immediately starts fighting. She's like fuck no
Like I think she's like he's trying to rape me
I know so she starts fighting fighting fighting and this guy keeps telling her to be quiet and is yelling just stop moving
Jennifer and Jennifer. Oh my god. He knows her name. Yes. What the fuck using her name?
I've heard this story before I know I have. Yeah, you you have and I won't say where until the end but you'll know but so it but and she's listening
And she's like what the fuck he's using my name, but she's trying to place a new voice. I can't recognize his voice.
I don't know who this person is.
Oh my God.
Even when she was getting her brain together, because she was woken up out of a fog.
Right.
Then this is happening.
She said, I still couldn't place a voice.
It never became recognizable.
And it was.
So she says, again, he was obviously trying to rape her.
So she starts screaming so loud
that she woke up all 15 of her neighbors,
not one of them called the police.
Go fuck themselves every month.
It's like hidey-genovies,
where she was literally murdered in the middle of the street
with dozens of people hearing it, watching it,
and no one did it. It's the bystander effect.
That's so fucked.
And the bystander effect is one of those things,
we will do a podcast on it because it's fascinating.
It is fascinating.
Because you just assume that someone else will take care of it.
The other person's gonna call, I don't need to call.
It's like when I saw that lady with the blood dripping
on her face, I thought that at first.
I was like, someone else will call and then I was like,
but what if they don't?
Exactly. See?
And that's what everybody needs to do.
Just assume.
But what if they don't?
Assume no one else is going to call.
Because they're probably not going to.
So this person suddenly slices her from her right cheek
down to her neck.
Oh my god.
She immediately starts pouring blood all over the bed,
all over the man.
I mean, she's still fighting.
She's still just like, I'm not just gonna lay here.
So after assaulting her, he took her by the hair
and threw her in her bathroom and shut the door.
No.
And he like knows his way around her house.
Yeah. Okay.
Fuck that.
And he tells her to stay in there and don't move
or I'll kill you on the spot.
So Jennifer took a washcloth
and immediately put pressure onto her neck wound because it was a huge wound on her neck.
And then she uses her legs and back to like jam herself against the door and puts her legs
up against the bathtub. So she kind of like wet her self in there. And then she's just,
she's like, I don't know if he's going, he's coming in. I don't know if he's, I don't know what's happening.
Like what was his plan?
Right.
So she waited and waited and waited.
And she finally hears him zip up his pants.
And then she hears silence.
Oh my God.
So she just waits and waits for what seems like a billion years.
Finally, she gets the courage to try to open the door.
Because she's like, I gotta get a phone.
I have to call 911.
Yeah.
So she puts her hand on the knob and attempts to turn it.
Well, she can't because her hands are so bloody that she can't get a grip on the,
on the knob.
And also she had pressed herself so hard against the door and attempt to stop him.
It was so stuck that she jammed it.
It wasn't even locked.
It was like she just jammed it.
At least she did.
So she even says that she started laughing because she was like,
I have fought so hard that I literally jammed them going to die.
Like I'm going to die because I can't open the door.
Like she said, she just was like, what the fuck?
Like are you kidding me?
So she finally is able to wash her hands off and she uses a towel to get a grip on the knob
and pull it open.
She gets out, she tries the lights, lights are dead.
No.
She tries the landlide, phones are dead.
And no.
So she quickly finds her cell phone,
not knowing where the intruder is
or if and when he's coming back for her.
I need a deep breath, right?
She grabs her cell, brings it into the bathroom, and it's working.
It's charged.
So she calls now because it's probably like a Zach Morris phone.
Exactly, because you forget it's 1995.
These were the huge ones.
I mean, I don't remember.
You could kill someone with that phone, I'm sure.
So blood forced trauma to the air with the phone.
Literally.
So dispatcher Richard Everett just started his first shift at 4 a.m.
and he answered this call.
She explained everything and he told her,
keep pressure on it, keep a clean washcloth on it
and he was just comforting her.
And she said he was amazing.
Like, he brought her right to a place where she could think straight.
Okay, good.
He kept saying, you're doing fine.
Are you cut anywhere else?
And she said, all I know is my neck.
So he helped her find out if she was cut anywhere else,
what she wasn't.
And he kept talking to her.
She said, he literally kept her sane and calm
with his just like demeanor and warmth.
I can't even like put my angel on her headspace.
Yeah, like in this guy is literally an angel on earth.
So 10 minutes of him talking to her
and telling her the police are on their way,
the ambulance is on their way,
they're coming to you, stay with me,
like just talk to me.
And he's telling her like don't talk too much.
Just give me small answers
because I don't want you using a lot of air
and a lot of voice.
But suddenly she hears a knock at the door.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
So she tells Richard somebody's a knock at the bathroom door,
the her house door.
Her house apartment door.
So she goes, there's somebody at the actual front door.
And she said, what do I do?
And he was like, ask who it is.
So she says, who is it?
The guy at the door yells that his name is Brian Gibson
and he's the night security guard,
Pinkerton from Pinkerton on duty.
Okay.
And he says, he just got attacked by a guy
who jumped off her balcony
and he just wants to know if she's okay.
And he's like, please let me in,
there's blood out here.
Are you okay?
I saw him jump off your balcony.
Right. He attacked me. What blood out here. Are you okay? I saw him jump off your balcony. Right.
He attacked me.
What's going on?
Are you hurt?
So she tells Richard.
She's like, oh, it's the security guard.
He's checking on me.
And Richard said, don't open that door.
And he's like, well, like, he's the security guard.
Like I need to, what the hell?
So he goes, you know what,
we haven't notified your building about this attack yet.
And I know he's saying he saw someone jump off there,
but I just don't feel like you should have a door.
I feel bad about this.
It's literally gut instinct.
He's saying just don't open the door.
I don't feel good about it.
Don't do it.
So she tells, so she's like, okay, I'm not gonna do it.
I also don't feel good about it.
So she tells Brian, no, I'm not letting you in. He's starting to get more like, he's, he's frantic.
Yeah. And he's saying, I just want to help you like, let me in. I'm the security guard.
Like I, I know somebody came out there did, they hurt you. Also, like, I have the help.
I need things. Exactly. And he's like, I like, are you hurt? Can I help you? Can I call
them? One, one, one. Can I do anything? No, I'm good. Thanks. And he's like, are you hurt? Can I help you? Can I call 911?
Can I do anything?
No, I'm good.
Thanks, bud.
So she's telling them, I'm fine.
The cops are on their way.
And he says, I know I can hear the sirens, but let me in.
No, she's starting to wonder, like, should I let?
Maybe he's really in, but Richard says, I'm sorry.
Please don't let him in that door.
Yes, Richard.
And Richard's like, I know this seems like counterintuitive
to what we want, but I just don't think it's right. So she said she trusted Richard, but she was so worried.
She kept saying to him, I'm really worried about the amount of blood I'm losing. Like she was like,
it's spring everywhere. I'm worried. I need someone fucking things in your neck. Yeah, and she kept
telling him that. Like, I'm really scared about this amount of blood, but he kept soothing her and told
her, just listen to me. They are right on your street. Okay. So, knockin gets harder and harder. He's still wanting to be
letting in. She's worried now because it seems like he might actually be trying to help her.
She hears the sirens now and Richards, Richards starts saying they're in your complex. They're coming.
Okay. Right there. So now it's silent at the door.
He stopped trying to knock on the door and get in.
Right.
So the cops in Ambulance arrive and they meet with Brian Gibson.
He goes out to meet them.
Okay.
Like he doesn't run away.
And he went right up to them.
He's bleeding from a wound on his right hand.
He's kind of disheveled.
There's blood on his face and on his uniform. Okay.
And he tells police he was patrolling
because he's the night guard on duty.
And he just witnessed a man jump down from Jennifer's balcony,
which was on the second floor.
And he said the man immediately attacked him
when he attempted to engage the guy.
And he said he managed to wrestle him to the ground,
but then the guy ran off into the woods
after slicing him with the knife. Okay. So he says he immediately ran managed to wrestle him to the ground, but then the guy ran off into the woods after slicing him with the knife.
Okay.
So he says he immediately ran up to check on Jennifer
because that's where the guy was coming from,
but she wouldn't let him in and he was worried
that she was really hurt.
Okay.
So they're like, okay, thank you for telling us
what's going on.
So they're like, you stay here.
We're gonna go try to get in there.
You know, thanks for your help.
Right, right.
And they look and they've, So they're like, you stay here. We're going to go try to get in there. You know, thanks for your help. You're right.
And they look and they've, and I think it was around 6am
at this point, like like nearing 6am.
So it is starting to get a little light out.
And they kind of shine the light over to where he says
the guy ran and there's just no evidence
that anyone ran over there.
They're footprints.
No disturbed grass, no blood, nothing. And there's really
no evidence that anyone jumped from a bell. Because that would definitely find evidence
of that. And now they're suspecting like something's weird here. So they kind of detain
Brian, they're like, why don't you sit with us? And they go in to get Jennifer out of the
apartment into an ambulance. Now, just as a little side,
when Jennifer got to the hospital,
because they did get in there, they did get her,
it was determined that he,
that cut had missed her right jugular vein
by only a couple of millimeters.
Oh my God, and that would have totally killed her.
100%.
It was so deep.
Millimeters.
That doctors said they literally have no explanation why she the nerves that control her facial muscles weren't severed
they were like we don't know how that happened and
The knife also caught the corner of her right eye
but somehow missed her eyeball
Wow
And it also caught a gold chain that her mother had given her for high school graduation.
And if it hadn't hit that chain,
the blade might have pierced her larynx.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
This girl is like,
she really is. Wow.
So she said,
quote, there was a series of little miracles
that prevented me from dying.
100%.
So that's the happy part,
as we know she gets out of this.
Wow.
Yes Jennifer. I feel like I don't know why why but I'm just picturing Sydney Prescott.
Right she does know why. She has Sydney final girl vibes. Yeah final girl vibes exactly.
So in the cops enter her apartment they see blood everywhere. It's just all over the place
and they start searching around after they get her out into the ambulance. And they find a pair of men's underwear.
Okay. A bloody knife and a pinkerton security hat. He straight up, Hansel, and Gretel'd that scene.
Like, he left bloody breadcrumbs all the way. He was like, here, he left his security hat.
Here's my underwear. Here's the weapon of attempted murder. And here's my security cap.
It literally just leads right over to him.
Like, why did you leave in such a hurry?
So they go back to Brian and they ask him to take a shirt off.
They'll like, hey, take a shirt off, please.
And he's like, I just wanted to help her.
I'm just here to help.
And they're like, yeah, you can take your shirt off real quick.
So he does.
And there are scratch marks and defensive marks all over him.
They also check and see he's missing his underwear.
Like, bro, he had also shaved down there to prevent leaving any hair. Oh, so he planned this and was prepared to rape her and probably kill her. Jesus Christ.
And he was missing his security hat.
Duh.
So what a moron.
Unbelievable.
Like why did you leave in such a hurry?
You threw her in the bathroom.
Why didn't you just gather all your stuff?
Right.
It's very bizarre.
I mean, I'm glad you didn't, but I mean, yeah.
But it's just very bizarre.
So the cops say he was one coming back to get all his shit
that he left there and two,
he was coming back to probably finish her off,
which is horrifying.
The security guard obviously was the attacker.
Right.
This is how he was able to say,
I know, this is how he was also able to say Jennifer
during the attack. He knew who lived in that apartment.
He knew everything out of get in there.
He knew everything about it.
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lodged against him in the three years
that he worked for Pinkerton.
It probably shouldn't have worked for the company
to begin with.
Oh, no.
His name was Brian Wayne Gibson.
He was 26 years old.
Geez.
He had started working for the Security Company in 1992.
And he was there for three years. He was removed from
two separate assignments for getting arguments with people. And his final reassignment was after
a client complaint at a construction site. Apparently, he had used the client's vehicle without their
permission. There were no charges filed against him, but they just trans, instead of doing anything about this,
they just kept transferring them.
Pinkerton just transferred him to the night shift
at Bayou Park, where tons of young women lived alone.
Yeah, like that's cool.
So they were like, you're very unreliable
and kind of skewie and doing like bad things.
Let's put you on a super important shift.
Let's tell you on the night shift
where you can just prowl around where young women live.
Like, are you kidding me?
Stupidest idea ever.
So Jennifer says, quote,
I think he was a sexual criminal
who was put into a situation like a kid in a candy shop
and that he used that opportunity
to pick his favorite flavor of candy.
Wow.
That's what it's like for.
Yeah, Jennifer.
100%. Jennifer ended up filing a lawsuit against the security company.
Yeah, she did.
And while they were while her and her lawyer were going through the whole suit
and researching everything, they found out that there was a lot of other
pinkerton guards that have gone ad. Oh, shit.
Texas state records show that between 1991 and 1995,
about 130 pinker 10 guards were convicted of felonies.
130? Yeah.
Felonies between 1991 and 1995.
Wow. So that's that's a four year span.
Now again, I'm not trying to like smear pinkerton here because they have gotten their shit together.
I think with like a hope so.
Data bases and stuff like that and better background checks and stuff.
But there was a moment where it didn't look like that.
Like were they just higher in like any Tom Dick and Harry that walked down the street?
Well, just to give a little bit of an insight into it.
In August 1992, a 15-year-old El Paso girl was walking home from a movie
one night, and she was on the sidewalk. She ended up getting cut off by a car by a man
wearing a Pingerton security uniform. There was witnesses that say that this guy flashed
a bad jatter, handcuffed her and threw her in his car.
What the fuck?
He then drove her to the desert
where he raped her before shooting her in the back of the head.
Oh my God.
Like at point blank range,
somehow she lived.
What?
And she was able to crawl back to a highway
and somebody picked her up.
The guy was arrested and convicted
of attempted capital murder,
and he's currently serving life in prison. He was a Pinkerton security guard.
And they said just a routine check would have let Pinkerton know that at the time, was it is
El Paso County prosecutor Robin Brambleett said, quote, at the time, Scott, I think his name was Kenneth Wayne Scott.
Scott was a parolee on federal firearms charges. He had a number of prior convictions out of Florida
and another state that were easily accessible had anyone bothered to look. Like why wouldn't you
bother to look at a security guard?
Like that should be your number one priority is,
they're not a feeling.
Right.
Like your, you give them handcuffs, literally.
You give them complete power.
They're like a police officer.
Yeah.
And I mean, there's such high standards for police officers.
Like why wouldn't security guards be the same?
Right.
Another one on January 3rd, 1993, this guy and a few of his friends were out drinking.
Then they randomly decided to rob a nearby convenience store.
You know.
During the whole thing, a 59-year-old clerk named Lennora Tetsman and a customer, 20-year-old
Todd Thompson, were shot to death.
They ended up following this whole thing
to a 20-year-old guy named Christopher L. Jones's place
who was a young Pinkerton security guard.
He was one of the shooters.
He was sentenced to life in prison.
Wow.
Yeah.
So did all these ship bags get together
and say like, you know who we should go work for? Pinkerton security. Let's go work for Pinkerton. Yeah. So did all these ship bags get together and say, you know who we should go work for?
Pinkerton's security. Let's go work for Pinkerton. Yeah. I hear they'll hire anybody. And it's like,
I think there's something around like 4,000 or something close to that Pinkerton guards in Texas
that are licensed and are not felons. Yeah. I mean, like this is not, like they're all felons and they're all bad.
Right, no, of course not.
There just seemed to be a little bit of a, like,
lack in the background check.
And it's also just a lesson of like,
who can you trust really?
Like, nobody.
And just to put it out there,
apparently it can be tough to keep track
of security
guards as a whole because they tend not to last too long at the job.
The turnover rate can be around 50% in a year.
Wow, that's a lot of turnover and a lot of people to keep track of.
But this was also back in like 1999 that this was a real problem.
Now they've integrated a computer system that better keeps track of the people they're
putting in charge of security.
So they have up to their shit.
Like cool thanks.
Appreciate it.
Like thank you.
Mori's attorney, BJ Walter Jr., who was helping her with the lawsuit against Pinkerton,
said that basically it was poor background checks and inadequate psychological screening for their employees
that was to blame here.
He says Brian Gibson just lied on his employment application and nobody looked at me.
Obviously.
They said, he said, quote, the guy was supposed to have stability in his employment.
The guy was supposed to have a minimum of a high school diploma or GED.
He didn't.
And they didn't check up on him to find out that he didn't.
Oh, wow.
So even something as like innocuous as that, he didn't even have a GED.
Right. And that's the minimum requirement.
Typically you look into that.
Yeah.
Um, their psychological testing at the time, uh, when he was hired, they used the Minnesota
multi-phasic inventory, which is a psychological exam that's geared towards pointing out character flaws.
Okay. But the test is supposed to be 500 plus questions.
They were using an abbreviated one with only 168 questions.
I'm sorry how many questions are supposed to be? 500 plus.
Okay. So in a 1997 deposition, the psychologist that actually works for Pinkerton actually
said his name is Arthur C. LeBlanc.
He actually said, quote, the short version doesn't measure everything.
It doesn't give you enough data to make an informed decision about a potential employee
and it gives potential clients a false sense of security.
So their own psychologist that works for the company was like,
yeah, this doesn't tell us anything.
So then what the fuck is the point of even doing it?
Well, luckily now they use a test called the Stanton Survey
and apparently that's a little better, I guess,
of a screening tool, so that's been taken care of.
So after this whole shabang happened,
Brian was arrested, but he ended up only
getting 20 years for attempted murder. That's it. He's on parole now in Texas. What about the
attempted rape, too? Well, I don't know. Well, I don't even know if it was attempted rape. I
that I couldn't find it anywhere whether that was just a template murder. But either way, attempted murder, he got 20 years.
And he's on parole now in Texas.
What the fuck?
Yes.
Now, because of this and because of the entire experience
to begin with, Jennifer obviously had a tough time
moving on at first.
Still.
Two weeks after the attack, she was completely moved
out of her apartment.
She just up in love.
Yes, see ya.
Thank you.
Bye.
She ended up moving in with her mother for a bit.
She said she had trouble even leaving her mother's side for a while.
No, I'm not sure.
And her mother was crippling.
She said she would call 911 at the slightest thing like if her cat made a noise.
She would call 911.
She also just trolled the house all night and said she just didn't sleep.
I would never sleep again.
Yeah.
How could you?
She eventually did move forward, though,
because I think it was like her brother
or something like pulled her aside.
I was like, you gotta, you gotta go crazy.
I think you're gonna go crazy.
You gotta get it together.
And she became the director of trauma support services
in North Texas.
And she's also done a ton of speaking engagements
where she tells her story and how she survived it.
Good for her.
She got married.
And when she got married, her husband
was actually one that encouraged her
to open her own law firm.
Oh.
And also when she got married,
Richard the 911 dispatcher was at her wedding. Shut the fuck up. I
know. I love that because they're still good friends. Because
he kept, he saved her life. He literally did. I mean, his
gut instinct to say do not open that door. You can't, I would
never be able to say whether I would have that instinct. No,
like, that they Wow, everything that he had that instinct.
I love him and I love Jennifer.
Right.
And so her husband, like I said, encouraged her to open her own law firm.
She did.
And it focuses on family law in Fort Worth, Texas.
It's still up and running today.
Has stellar reviews.
She's like killing it.
I love that.
And her quote, her last quote that I just want to say is quote
I have a theory that the Jennifer Mory that existed on April 15th,
1995 died and that a new one had to come out of that
Yes, girl isn't that amazing wow. I'm really glad that that had a happy ending. I know right. I felt I felt good about it
I loved that. I wanted to give a little more history into Pinkerton and all that.
Yeah, you did.
So I thought that was a pretty feel-good mini.
I liked that a lot.
Thank you.
I'm so glad that Richard was out here wedding.
I know, I love that.
I'm not going to sleep tonight, though, so thanks a lot.
I know.
Doesn't even matter if I lock my fucking windows or my shit.
Well, you know, not disparaging security guards or anything like that.
This just happened to be a very bad apple.
Yeah.
You know, there's also, there's also crazy autopsy texts, I'm sure, that have done.
Actually, there is.
There's stories of people like taking home bodies and shit.
So, wow.
I wonder if there's crazy hairstyle.
I mean, there are.
One of the hair styles.
I wonder if there's murderous hairstyle.
Like, oh, maybe I'll find that for next many episode.
I was gonna say, try to find one for many.
I don't know.
So yeah.
Well, thanks guys for listening.
Thanks for listening to the story of Jennifer Mori.
That was a good one.
That badass surviving boss.
I really liked that one.
Yeah.
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Keep it weird.
But that's a weird thing.
It becomes a security guard just to go ahead and like, break into some ladies house and
be like, quiet Jennifer.
And then she'd fucking locks herself in the bathroom and guess what?
She fucking jams the door.
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