Morbid - Episode 74: The Bridgewater Triangle Part 1

Episode Date: June 19, 2019

In this first installment of a mini-series concentrating on the bizarre and sinister happenings in Massachusetts' Bridgewater Triangle, we go over the history of this seemingly cursed land an...d some of the more paranormal aspects of the triangle. Next week, we dive into some gruesome crimes that have occurred within the area as well. Hold onto your butts because Massachusetts is crazy, guys.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:03 So, welcome back to another week of us. Here we are. We're funny. We're hilarious. So welcome back to another week of us. Here we are. We're always here. We're hanging in. I feel like I spend more time on this couch than I do on my own couch. Yeah. What you likely do. I think I spend more time at your house than I do at mine. And I love it. Yeah, I like you. I love it. You're cool. So much. I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I love this podcast. People are gonna be like, wow, that. I love it. You're cool so much. I love you. I love you. I love this podcast. You're gonna be like wow that's annoying. Bye So we don't really have a whole lot of business to attend to this week and I think this might be a long episode again So you guys love long episodes so we're here for you. You really do We want to give the people what they want. And one of the things we just wanted to quickly mention and just throw out there is how great the Facebook group is going and you know why? Because I do. Can I say? You can say. I want to say. Say it. I think that our moderators are doing the damn thing up in the Facebook group. They are killing it. And we just wanted to shout you guys out
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Starting point is 00:05:03 And it says morbid. It's, it's kind of for us. And you should do it. We love you. Go buy it. Bye. Oh, murder apparel. We love you. A. So tonight's episode is about the bridgewater triangle, which we are in the center of. Yeah, we are like right in there. Can we say about we are in there right now? Yeah, because we're in there. Can we say about, we are in there right now. Yeah, because we're in there. Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:05:27 There's a lot of towns in there. Do you remember the time that that ghost hugged me in the bridge water triangle? I do remember that. Oh, what a ghost hug. Yeah, ghost hug dash in the, in the Bermuda triangle. In the Bermuda, I mean, maybe I've been there before too. In the bridge water triangle.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm really popular among ghosts. I like to hang out in triangles a lot. I'm not super popular among the living but the dead a so this is gonna be a Series of sorts. I'm not gonna like split into parts because it's not like it's one continuous story It's like but there's so many stories to tell so many fun things about this that I feel like cramming it all, like, you know, just skipping things or like just rolling over things too quick would not do this justice. And since this is like our home that we feel very connected to, I feel like I want to
Starting point is 00:06:16 give it its due diligence. So this is going to be kind of a series. Hopefully you guys dig it. Tonight, we're going to be talking about the history of the Bridgewater Triangle, how it became to be this crazy haunted satanic sinister place, how we think it did at least, because what our theory is. It was fucking ours really. But it's pretty unexplainable. We're going to give some history, some background, and we're gonna talk mostly about some cryptids that are seen in the Bridgewater Triangle. We have a guest feature.
Starting point is 00:06:52 We do. We have a first-hand account from my good friend and beloved fellow human, Lil. She's cool. She's amazing. I met her once at Target. That's how you know somebody's cool if you meet them at Target. It's true. She's great. And I think we're also just gonna it's gonna be more of the paranormal side today and we'll continue that a little bit next time and then we'll move on to some of the you know real murders that have taken place here in Someriel like sinister shit. Remind me to tell you my first hand account of outside my driveway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Of the Bridgewater Triangle. Oh my god, the end of this. Yeah, see? I just realized I could tell that story. I'm so excited right now. Exactly, I know exactly which one you thought you should. I just got goose bumps. Now we have two first hand accounts.
Starting point is 00:07:36 So strap in, hold on to those butts. Hold on to your butts. So the Bridgewater Triangle,. So the bridge water triangle. It's a 200 square triangle, 200 square. It's a 200 square triangle. Yeah, the square triangle. 200 square mile triangle in southeastern Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And it boasts a very impressive, and one might say quite overindulgent amount of paranormal, strange, spooky, gruesome, sinister, and even murderous activity. Awesome. It's a great place. 10 out of 10, recommend. It's a very metal triangle.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It is screaming the morbid theme song. It's a very metal. It's like the Bermuda triangle except different in almost every conceivable way, apart from geometry, aside from the fact that they're both triangles. Yeah, like a lot of people are like, oh, the Bermuda triangle. And it's like, yeah, it's like the same thing.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Except not at all. Like we don't have planes going missing or like anything like that. So you're telling me a melee error, hard as not in my back card? Probably not. All right, I don't think so at least, but you know, I don't know so at least, but you know,
Starting point is 00:08:45 I don't know everything. Maybe a giant African cat though. It's 200 square miles so. I don't know it all, but there's definitely a giant cat though. That's right. We'll get to that later, don't worry. It's revolving mostly around an epicenter which is the 17,000 acre Hockamock swamp. The swamp is 17,000 acres. 17,000 acre Haka Moxwamp. The swamp is 17,000 acres. That's also what they call
Starting point is 00:09:10 our sports like a yeah like our sports division was the Haka Mox league. Yeah. So we we really like feed into it. It also the center is the Haka Moxw, but it's also the free town, Fall River State Forest is also. That's where I drove past that lady with the bloody face. Exactly, which if you haven't listened to that episode, I don't remember which one it was. I think it was just in the beginning of a random episode.
Starting point is 00:09:37 It was. I'll tell that story at that. Yeah. So the triangles points are at Abington, at the tip of the triangle, free town at the bottom right or the southeastern part, and Rohobeath to the southwest. Those are the tips.
Starting point is 00:09:52 No one obviously has a definitive answer for why there's so much activity in this area, but obviously some ship must have gone down here to cause some real bad judu to permeate the landscape in such a gnarly way. It's got a lot of bad energy. Well, it's widely agreed upon that the craziness is due to the way Massachusetts settlers treated the Native American population that was here before them,
Starting point is 00:10:16 which I'm sure you can briefly imagine. It was not great. No, and I say Massachusetts settlers, I mean English settlers, obviously. In 1675, Massachusetts was separated into Massachusetts Bay colony and Plymouth colony. It was in the summer of this year that the local Native American population consisting mostly of Wampanoag and Polkanoca tribe members had enough of the English settlers'
Starting point is 00:10:43 shit and they fell back. Shettler shit. Shettler shit. I've had enough of these Shettler shits and I'm gonna fight back. Because I mean like what the fuck, right? Yeah. You're a native American. You're like come on. I lived here. What's the actual fuck? They were left led by Chief Metacom also known as Chief Metacomit, Chief Palm Metacom, and King Philip. He's known in history books as all of these, so no one fucking tried to correct me. And he's not a different guy, it's just one dude. It's just one dude. No, by multiple names. Yeah, I'm gonna refer to him mostly as like Metacomit and King Philip. Okay, but Metacomit was the second son of Massa Soiet, who was the tribal leader that formed an alliance with the Mayflower Pinch pilgrims in 1621 and helped them basically get their shit together
Starting point is 00:11:33 in the new world. Remember Thanksgiving? Yeah, and he just, and he like helped them. Like he was like, he like formed an alliance. He was like, all right. If you're kind of all gonna be here, we might as well be chill with each other. So he was like, this good dude. Fun fact, one of the community colleges here is called Mastasoya. Hey, just put that up there. Not the one I went to. Nope.
Starting point is 00:11:52 And Mastasoya died sometime around 1660 or 1661. And he was like 81 years old. Wow, so that was like super up there at the time. Good for him. His oldest son, Wom Suda, and I might be saying that wrong, and I apologize. If you know how to say it, let us know. Exactly. Because this one I'm just not, I'm pretty good at most of these pronunciations, but when Suda, I believe it is, he succeeded him. In fun little, like,
Starting point is 00:12:19 aside in free town, there's a rock called Profile Rock, which we'll mention again later, because we're going to talk about some weird fucking rocks and messchuses. And it's a natural granite formation that people think was from a glacial formation. Oh, wow. And if you look at it in profile, it resembles, it very much resembles a human face. Wow. And people think it looks like an like an elder Native American and people think it's an image of chief Massa Soya. And they said, you know, that's why it's now it's sacred ground still
Starting point is 00:12:54 considered. So when Massa Soya died, when pseudah, who is becoming chief now succeeding him, decided in recognition of this to change his name, which they did often when like English settlers came. And they asked Plymouth leaders for an English name. Okay. They named him Alexander Pocanokit. So Alexander also asked the English to give his brother Medicom a name too, and they called him Philip. That's how he later became King Philip, got it. Which is also a town in Massachusetts. It is. Or not a town, excuse me.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Which is also a high school in Massachusetts. Wait, I, for, I agreed with you, but I knew you were wrong. Yeah. I was like, it is. In my brain, it was like, no, it's not. And as I was saying it, I was like, nope, that's wrong information. But I like finished. What do you love that I was like, it is.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And King Philip, the high school in Massachusetts, I was like, nope, that's wrong information, but I like finished. What do you love that I was like, it is. And King Philip, the high school in Massachusetts, is like three different towns put together. And it's unfair because they're really fucking good at sports because they have three fucking options. They really are. I just wanna put that up here. If I'm not about it.
Starting point is 00:13:57 In 1662, the Plymouth colonists began out of nowhere to kind of like suspect that the natives might be planning to attack the colony. Okay. They were like, man, I don't know. We did come in here and just like rip all your land away. Could you be angry at us, maybe? Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And so they arrested Alexander. Oh, no. Yeah, Phillips, older brother. And he was like, dude, I was just trying to live peaceful. Yeah, he's peaceful. Peaceful, he's peacefully amongst y'all. Yeah. So he was bred to Plymouth, and he had to stand trial, and he had to prove his loyalty to the ground, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Which must be like a real pain in the ass. So after proving loyalty, the English released him, but while he was there, he had contracted a disease while in Plymouth. Oh no. On the way home, he died. Oh, no. What a bummer. And then King Philip was fucking pissed. Well, rumors began to spread among the Wampanoags that he had been poisoned by the colonists, which is believable. So he died and Philip, his younger brother, Metacomit, took over as chief. So this is when the colonists decided to
Starting point is 00:15:06 continue to press the whole, are you gonna attack us business and made him come to a meeting in Plymouth too? And he was like, yeah, I don't want to go there because my brother died. Well, and basically he went. He was like, all right, I'm trying to keep peace here. So basically, he told them, I love the crown, it's awesome. I want to tack your dumbasses unless warranted. And I plan to honor my family's loyalty to your stupid faces too. Yeah. That's in the history books. That's exactly what he's a brief summary. So for a while, there was a lot of land being sold back and forth and settled between the Native Americans and the settlers. But there were tons of disputes here
Starting point is 00:15:42 because they would promise not to encroach on native land. And then they would like go ahead and encroach on native land. So there was a whole lot of like, Hey, we, you said you would do that. Maybe don't. And then they'd sell it out. It was just a bunch of shit. So in 1671, apparently looked like a war might be happening at some point. Right. Cause tensions were high. might be happening at some point. Right. Because tensions were high.
Starting point is 00:16:04 In March of 1671, Philip apparently made a gesture that to the colonists signaled that he was getting ready to wage war on them. So he got a band of armed warriors and he marched into the town of Swansea in Plymouth County, but he didn't attack anyone. He just marched in there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Not sure what he did. So the colonists were like, um, so they made him come to Tonton, Massachusetts to explain why he did this. Okay. They were like, why did you just march in here? And he was like, I was actually having a parade. Thank you. He was like, it's fun. On April 10th, 1671, Philip went to Tonton. They were, he was questioned by the colonists. And after being pressed on the matter, Philip was like, Yeah, I kind of am plotting more against you. And they were like, why? And he was like, I don't want to get into it. Like he just didn't explain. He was like, you know, I just am. And I'm doing what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Like good for him. And he he's just like you know what guys I think you can maybe you can put the puzzle together yourself. I don't know stop selling my damn land. Stop being shitty So the colonists then demanded fill up sign a peace treaty and this peace treaty was gonna require the want to know eggs to surrender all their arms No, which he did But he never gave up his remaining weapons that weren't with them. He was like, sure, you can have these. He's like, loophole bitch. Yes. Yes. So this is when things get really tense because they were still demanding all those guns and arms, but he was refusing. And then they demanded his allies guns and some of them surrendered. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:45 So Philip was accused in a war council of being insolent and basically aiding it abetting quote, strange Indians that posed a threat against the English. So like he was probably pissed off at all this. He's like, can we stop now? Nathaniel Morton, who was the Secretary of Plymouth colony court, sent a letter to Massachusetts Bay colony government saying he wanted to summon Philip to Plymouth on September 13th and said they were thinking if he didn't show, then they would use military force
Starting point is 00:18:15 on the 20th to, quote, reduce him to reason. Oh. So the Massachusetts government said, yeah, totally. But that might make Philip break all ties with the colony They were I just warning good luck with that. He's probably not gonna be psyched that you do that He ended up meeting with them at the time they asked those they didn't have to reduce him with force but He was like guys seriously just leave me the fuck alone, right?
Starting point is 00:18:40 He literally was like you can you just leave us alone like this? Well, we're asking just leave us alone I don't want to be friends with you anymore. So it was declared that there was insufficient cause for Plymouth to propose war against Philip during this council, because they really wanted to. Yeah. And they were like, no, you can't do that. So Plymouth then consented to give Philip another week
Starting point is 00:18:59 to turn over his weapons and asked that commissioners for Massachusetts and Connecticut be present at the next meeting. Okay. On September 24th, 1671, Philip and the mediators for Massachusetts and Connecticut, one to Plymouth like planned, Philip was totally set up though. Because when he got there, those mediators from Massachusetts and Connecticut who were supposed to be on his, like, kind of on his side to just relate this whole thing. They sided with Plymouth and were like, quote, amend your ways or we're going to war with
Starting point is 00:19:31 you. I mean, while the whole time they were like, we don't want to go to war. Yeah. So it's like, so he's like, guys, what the actual fuck? Right. Mixed messages. So there's lots more land disputes. And then an elder Native American named John Sassamon
Starting point is 00:19:46 that worked with the settlers as an interpreter for the Native Americans. He was murdered. Oh no. And it was thought that three Wampanoag tribesmen did it. And they were tried and hanged for it, but people thought Philip had ordered that murder because he was paranoid about Sassam and giving settlers their secrets or something. He denied any of this. OK. So the battle was kind of kicked off with this, the great battle that we're going to talk about.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And most people think that this is the beginning of King Philip's War. So King Philip's War began in Swansea, Massachusetts in June. Polkinoke at warriors raided, looted, and burned several homes. And one of the Poconoket warriors was shot and killed by a conist. Philip was pissed, so he ordered an attack on Swansea on June 24th, 1675, which became the first official battle of King Philip's War.
Starting point is 00:20:44 So in response to all this, the colonial troops marched to Mount Hope, which was King Philip's base of operation kind of. They wanted to find him, and they wanted to find his men. But they found that Philip had already fled for a pro-casset. So he was already out of there. He was like, ma'am,anoag's attacked Middleboro, Massachusetts,
Starting point is 00:21:05 and then Dartmouth, Massachusetts, in July of 1675. And the attacks continued while troops tried to find Philip and Pokasset Swamp later that month. So Philip and his troops managed to escape once they were found in the swamp. And they went down the swamp on rafts and fled Pocahacet, Massachusetts. So the battles went on for the rest of the year and in the meantime, Christian Native Americans throughout the colony were rounded up and imprisoned to prevent them
Starting point is 00:21:37 from joining Philip's team. It's craziness. So in January of 1676, Philip and his warriors went to Mohawk territory in New York and they were trying to seek like an alliance with that tribe. Right. But unfortunately for him, Governor Edmund Andrew had already offered the Mohawk tribe an alliance in exchange for assistance against Philip. Oh, shit. So they were already in the next stop. They had already agreed. Because the monarchs were like, yup. And they attacked Philip. What do you got there? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So he was driven back to New England. Oh, fuck. Because he was like, well, I don't have an alliance here. This is wild. It is. It's crazy. I learned about this, but I forgot a lot of it. Yeah, so it could really interest
Starting point is 00:22:19 a little piece of his Massachusetts history. It really is. By the spring, the war went to Rhode Island and Connecticut, like it spread that far. So in July of 1676, Philip and his troops went back to the Pocacet region of Rhode Island, where it had begun basically the year before. And they hid in local woods and swamps.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And Native Americans were very familiar at that time with all the nooks and crannies and all that of the swamps and everything in the woods. So that was smart. They knew they were gonna have colonists trekking out in there. Right. So English troops led by Captain Benjamin Church
Starting point is 00:22:59 began going through all through Plymouth, Massachusetts trying to find Philip and his soldiers. They wanted Philip and his soldiers. They wanted Philip. Oh, no. On July 20, Benjamin Church found Philip's camp near Bridgewater, Massachusetts, and he led an attack on the camp.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So Philip managed to escape, but his wife and son were captured and sold into slavery. Oh my God. Oh my God. And according to a first-hand account by Benjamin Church, because it's in a book history of King Philip's War. So this is his first-hand account. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:36 The Native Americans told Church that Philip was absolutely heartbroken by the capture of his family. Oh, no. Like it destroyed him. So by the late summer of 1676, the war was starting to chill out. But Philip was still not found. He was still on the run because he was like, I'm going to venture. Yeah. He was convinced that I will avenge.
Starting point is 00:23:58 On August 12 of that year, church got a tip that Philip was in the Wampanoag village called Monta, near Mount Hope. So he went with a bunch of his dudes and he found Philip's small camp of warriors near a place that later became known as King Philip's seat and is still known that way today. And I mean, he was found he was deep in the Harkamok, because again, white dudes were scared of the swamp. Yeah. So, Philip was shot where he was sitting by a Native American named John Alderman who was one of church's soldiers. He was kind of like a defector.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Oh, shit. So he was like, um, because they were all like a Christian soldiers ones that like took on that religion We're like kind of defectors and went to the other side. Mm-hmm. So he was one So they the he was killed he was shot and killed and Philip was then hanged drawn and quartered Whoa because that's the punishment for a subject of the crown who has been accused of treason mm-hmm Go listen to our torture episode. It's a good one. We talk about drawing and quartering. It was horrific.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Church gave Phillips head in hand to John Alderman as a reward. I don't want it. And that's according to Church himself. He was like, oh yeah, I did that. I don't want it. So Alderman sold Phillips head to Plymouth authorities for 30 shillings, and it was placed on a stake in Plymouth County,
Starting point is 00:25:26 where it remained for 25 years. This is very game of thrones, casual, and fragrant, I'm sure. You feel like pungent. I feel like pungent. Like very pungent. Philips hand was sent to Boston for display, and the fork, because, of course,
Starting point is 00:25:44 because why not? And the four, because, of course, because why not? And the four quarters of his body were strung up in four trees where they hung until they just wasted away. Yummy. Like, everything must have just smelled like shit back then. Oh, 100%. Like, they used to just throw their shit out the window. Like, it's just garbage.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Garbage. It's just the whole place. Like, get it together. Yes. Now that what may seem, he got a very bum rap, which he did. He's now seen in like a heroic light. Like he came out of it looking like a hero here. And he's kind of known as one of the greatest Native American leaders in our history.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Meanwhile, all the non-Christian Native Americans left after all this war. They were like, fuck this place. Yeah, well they were rounded up and sold in a slavery. Oh, so they were like, there's a lot of shit going down here. That is not creating a lot of good juju. Now it should be noted that this war was unprecedented in brutality. Yeah. Innocent men, women, and children were slaughtered throughout. And it was gory as fuck. I mean, it was a gruesome shit show all around. King Phillips War remains the bloodiest conflict
Starting point is 00:26:55 in American history per capita. That is insane. 5% of Massachusetts combined population was killed in this battle. Holy shit. It's estimated that 500 English settlers died and 3,000 Native Americans died during this battle. So that's why this land is probably cursed. Probably or definitely. Well that's the consensus. That's what everybody kind of looks at is like that's probably where the bad jujubegan. But there's also some people
Starting point is 00:27:29 who have another little side note about this. Hit me up. They think that maybe this evil shit in this land, like predates that whole thing, and that was actually a product of the already sully bland. Tell me what happened. Well, they said, but that's the thing. Nobody knows what happened before that, like the product of the already Sully Blant. Tell me what happened. Well, they said then
Starting point is 00:27:47 but that's the thing nobody knows what happened before that but they're just saying maybe this play cursed is just inherently evil and it's that was just a part of it. Like King Philips were being
Starting point is 00:27:58 this bloody awful like the you know taking away 5% of Massachusetts combined population was just due to this land being so evil. Oh, I'm stressed. Personally, I think King Phillips wore it all began. Because it all kind of stems back to that.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah. Because it was fine before when the Native American time. They said they seemed like they were having to find time. So, yeah. Now, we're going to go back to the hunk of Moxwomp. It sounded like we said hunk of monk. We're going gonna go back to the hankamok swamp. It's out of like with that hankamok. We're gonna go back to the hankamok swamp.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Hankamok swamp. The hankamok swamp. The hankamok swamp, which is again, the epicenter. Epicenter. It has the most tales and stories and sightings, for sure. Like we said, it's 17,000 acres, so it covers a lot of ground. I didn't know it was that big.
Starting point is 00:28:44 That's fucking wild. That yeah, it's insane. And's 17,000 acres, so it covers a lot of ground. I didn't know it was that big. That's fucking wild. That yeah, it's insane. And the 17,000 acres. Well, when you think it's, so the towns that it runs through our bridge water, eastern, random, taunt, and west bridge water in some parts of northern. I mean, it's beautiful, it's creepy, it's spooky,
Starting point is 00:29:02 it's mystical. It's ancient as fuck. Like when you look at it, you're just like, whoa, that's ancient. Like that's exactly what you say immediately. You walk in there and you're just like, whoa! That's ancient. Like you have, I loved that.
Starting point is 00:29:16 That should be a shirt, whoa! That's ancient. It really is though. It's got a lot of, you know, amazing wildlife. It's got a lot of amazing wildlife. It's important to the ecosystem. It's crazy important to... In pointin' is like, why can't I talk to you? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And I'm sorry I keep calling you out for it, but that one was funny. It's crazy important to all the town's water supplies. I mean, it's beautiful. Like we said, it's ancient. It's got all these things. Did I say it was mystical? It's mystical. Yeah, it's so mystical. It said, it's ancient. It's got all these things. Did I say it was mystical? It's mystical.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah. It's so mystical. It's but it's scary. It's like, I feel like mystical things are like sort of scary. Yeah, I feel like it goes hand in hand. Toads. So according to the documentary that everybody should go
Starting point is 00:29:56 watch on this because it's really good on. It's just called the Bridgewater Triangle. I think you can find it on Amazon crime. There are at least this is is gonna blow your mind, or at least it blew mine, I don't know. Pull down your minds. There are at least, at this point, a thousand graves out there
Starting point is 00:30:14 that are at least 8,000 years old. Whoa. Like what? Holy shit. Right, like that, I can't even wrap my brain around that. Spook. Spook. And throughout that time, it's always been seen as sacred land to American, Native Americans, this, the Hockamok swamp. This swamp was where, I mean, this was where they lived, where they hunted, where they hid before, during, and after, King Philip's war.
Starting point is 00:30:43 So it's like, it has a lot of gory battles happened throughout the swamp. They are still finding bones in the swamp in Native American burial grounds. They are found all the time. Mm-hmm. Which, I mean, if you've seen, and if you've seen Poltergeist,
Starting point is 00:31:01 if you've seen any movie, you know that, like, you shouldn't be fucking around with Native American burial grounds. You shouldn't do it. Definitely not. People say that when they go in or around the swamp that they get this feeling of being watched or like followed, they get it like immediately.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Ooh. They also say that they get this uncomfortable, like, sick feeling when they go through. There's been tons of sightings of different cryptids. There's like eight-like biped creatures. Whoa, big-futs, big feet. I'm pretty sure you, I think multiple big-foot are big feet, which is funny to me.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I love that, I think that's hilarious. Like look at that, look at that gaggle of big feet. I'm like, holy shit, I saw like three big feet. So those big feet just hanging out over there. But people have seen them. There's been sightings of enormous birds, huge snakes, giant cats, red-eyed dogs that are huge in wolves, red-eyed dogs, no thanks.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Yeah, no good. No good. Red-eyed anything, I'm not interested. Yeah, you don't want red eyes, that's no good. No, get some biasing. Yeah, do it. They've all been reported inside the Swampland and in the towns that it runs through. Lauren Coleman is a famous cryptozoologist and he moved in the 1970s from California to
Starting point is 00:32:17 Cambridge, Massachusetts, where he became entranced by the Bridgewater Triangle. It must be super interesting, especially if that's already your job title. He was actually the one who figured out where the triangle points were and where encompassed. He was the one who coined the Bridgewater Triangle in his book, Mysterious America, which is a very interesting book. Now, let's talk about the big feet. Okay. Let's do it. In 1970, a ton of people saw
Starting point is 00:32:49 a huge hairy ape-like thing in these areas, sometimes on two legs, and we're sometimes running on all fours. Which freaks me out, right? Like I can't, that image of like, like I can handle the big foot image of like him just like, stroll him through like, because I just picture Chubaka. Yeah, because he's just like, like, oh, you know, exactly. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. That was a very good. Thank you. Thank you. Good night. Thank you. And good night. But when you see them going on all fours, I'm like, nope, not interested in it. No, I don't want to be there. I'm busy that day. And all the days following. They found footprints. Shit. Yeah. Which I mean, I'm just saying just throwing it out there. I don't know. And for two days in 1970 and two nights, bridgewater
Starting point is 00:33:40 police in Massachusetts state police did like a massive search and brought like search dogs and they were actually thinking they were looking for like a bear they were like it must be a bear that must have been so fun right like you're looking for big feet yeah even though you you say and you're looking for a bear you're really going you're looking for big feet you're nerding the fuck out what you're doing that you are nerding out you are you doing? You fucking go and look at me. You are nerding out. You are. Do it. They didn't end up finding it, but still happened.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I wanna know where Bigfoot feet goes. Bigfoot feet. When they're hiding. I know. Like you're huge, where do you hide? They are smarter than us, man. I mean, obviously. I'm sure there's a lot of things out there smarter than us.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, I'd say so. And another, this is kind of a crazy story. In 1978, a man, and I believe his uncle shot what they thought was a bear in the swamp. But when it shot, when it got shot, it cried out like a human. Oh, excuse me. But they said it was like this hairy, huge thing. That's terrifying. Which, can you imagine you do that in that three-action you get?
Starting point is 00:34:47 And then you just look at your dad and your dad looks at you and you just sit there looking at each other like, to add sun. What? So do we walk away from this murder? What do we do? Where do we go? Should we call someone?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Let's not. And also, when it says cryout, like a human, I just picture like, ugh. You think that's the noise you make when it says cry out like a human. I just picture like You think that's the noise you make when you get shot is like You're fucked. I think he like I'm any like yelp or did he or was he like what the fuck asshole? Scamper it off. I vote for that one. I feel like that's very human. Just being like I think I like that one. Yeah, well then he just ran away, whatever he said,
Starting point is 00:35:29 or did or way. Oh, so he got away? He ran away, yeah. But when they went closer to where it was because they were like, what the hell? They found like bloody hair on, like hanging off of a tree. By, yeah, like fur hair. And then it was like a lot and it was bizarre.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And then they moved to Nebraska. And then they moved to Nebraska. I believe it was the same year. This is just funny. Two police officers were in their car by like sitting by the Hockemok swamp, one part of it. Sure. I think they were just like filling out reports
Starting point is 00:36:02 or like just like a traffic, or whatever. You're not doing anything. And they said both of them felt the entire back of their car lift up off the ground. And when they looked behind it, there was a giant hairy man holding the back of their car up. They flipped out and it dropped the car and ran off into the woods. And what did they do for the rest of their lives? And they both said that they saw it. And then they retired. They were like, well, he's not like it's he. Sorry, chief. We're out. Gotta go. They know. Imagine. Yeah. I mean, no.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Like you're just sitting in your car and like, and also I'm like, what was he doing? Also like what like what? He was a big hairy man. also I'm like, what was he doing? Also, what, he was a big Harry man, okay, but are we talking like six foot two? No, like they said like seven or even. Five or even. Five or even. Oh, like clearly not just some tall guy. A Harry basketball player.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Like a very Harry basketball player. Shit. Lifted the back of their car. Automatically, I don't know why, but I just picture like a ginger, right? Cause I don't know, cause basketball, like. You just picture like Brian Scalabreeni. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Lifting the back of the cop car and being like, suck it. Suck it. I don't know. I don't know, it's just what I saw. That's what happened. I can't help but I saw. I was Brian Scalabreeni.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Brian, we're on to your case, okay buddy? We know what you're doing out there. He's been around for a while. In the bridgewater triangle. I can't. Well, in the documentary, there's also a guy who is now like a paranormal investigator and is really interested in this stuff. He grew up around, you know, Massachusetts. His name is Carlston Wood. And he recounts a terrifying story in the documentary.
Starting point is 00:37:50 So in the winter of 1970, he was super young. And he said he and a few other kids sometimes would go into the swamp to like, you know, if it, because it was winter, so like the swamp had ice-dove and they'd kind of play in there and just like, you know, because it was winter, so like the swamp had ice stover and they'd kind of play in there and just like, you know, fuck around. And they were like, he said him and like a bunch of other kids, like girls and boys were in there and they said they were like a mile into it when one started screaming. Oh, great. So they all were like, what the hell? And
Starting point is 00:38:19 one of them yelled, there's a huge hairy man over there. Which, to me, is the scariest thing someone could yell at me. I would think, in the song. What if you were the huge hairy man, though? I feel like you'd just be really offended. That would be really offensive. I'd be like, listen, you little bitch.
Starting point is 00:38:39 You know, not all of us have razors. Not all of, I'm a feminist, okay? He's like solidarity sister, okay? Like chill. Get out of here. You're a big hairy man. It's winter, I don't have to shave. She's a hybrid eating bitch. You know what I'm putting your social bullshit on me, okay?
Starting point is 00:39:11 See, I'm in the tail. That was so scary. Guys, spook, spook. Don't put your social norms on me, you little bitch. So what really happened? That's not what happened. One of the kids was like, there's a huge hairy man. And just kids stop thinking, so you're really offended bigfoot. I just, like he literally is like, he's like, like, fish one.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Did your parents teach you manners? Like no one taught you not to scream. Like excuse you. That's a little huge and hairy like cheese. I'll just take a man. Let's all just teach you know it like real talk. Let's all teach our kids not to scream. They're huge hairy. Like don't point out people's hugeness in there. Listen everyone has flaws. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. So yeah, there's a huge
Starting point is 00:40:08 airy man over there. And then he said, we all turned because obviously, he said, we all saw it. Like everyone saw it. He said they ran as fast as they could back to the way. And he was like, when we got back to the road, we were like, yep, I want to go home. Like, bye. Let's never play in this one again. And he said they all got together Monday morning at the bus stop. And they were all just like, remember that time? Hey, so what did you see? And they all just started like saying it to each other. And it all, they were, they all saw the same thing. Oh, shit. So he was like, I don't know what it was. I'm not saying it. And he's like, but what I saw was a huge hairy man. That like an impossibly huge hairy ape like man. Oh God. So outside of the swamp, Bigfoot has also been seen. And
Starting point is 00:40:57 I say Bigfoot, like a Bigfoot type creature. Yep. In Bridgewater around two small ponds, their clay banks, one and two, is what they're called. A resident Joseph D. Androd, or D. Andrade, I think his name is, said he saw it in the forest near clay banks too. In the winter of 1978, he and a friend, who he was like, my friend Wayne. Like, you kept saying he was like, and then Wayne did this and Wayne did that. Like Wayne's world. So Wayne was with him. And they went looking around there in the area because they had heard of like, sightings of different things. And he said at one point, he was turned with his back to the lake or the pond. And he said, he suddenly heard, and he even says in the documentary, like, I'm not, he's like, let me be clear that I'm not in the habit of hearing voices.
Starting point is 00:41:46 He's like, just to be clear. So let's just put that out there. But he said he heard, like in his head, he felt someone tell him like, turn around. Oh, so he's like, I felt compelled to turn around and look at the pond. When he said, when he did this, he saw a huge man with long dark brown hair all over.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And he said he saw it across the pond. And he was standing there looking right back at him. He said he saw him from the waist up, but didn't see his face because it was like covered with some of the trees. He like grabbed Wayne and was like, oh, do you see that? And he said as soon as Wayne turned around, it was gone. Oh, no, come on. So he's like, I know that sounds crazy, whatever. And again,
Starting point is 00:42:33 who knows? All this could be just craziness. But it's like, there's a lot of reports of these things. I mean, yeah. And retain some of them. He has since founded the Paranormal Investigation Organization. And he's written extensively on various investigations he's done in the Bridgewater Tribe. extensively on various investigations he's done in the bridge water triangle. So another story about Big Feet is a guy named John Baker who has since passed away. He was fur-trapping in the Hock-Mock Swamp in the 1980s. The reason that this one is told is because it showed up in the Boston Herald in an article that interviewed him and he said, quote, something he so he was in a canoe like going down the Hawkemox swamp. Yeah. He said, quote, something was following me and I knew it was big. So he said he took his boat to a drier area of the swamp to stop and kind of like check out what the hell was going on. And he said, quote,
Starting point is 00:43:21 I knew it wasn't a human because when it passed by me, I could smell it. It smelled like skunk, musty and dirty, like it lived in the dirt. And he said he had no idea what it was, but he said, I know what I saw. And he said, the exact same thing, a huge Harry man stalked him all the way up the swamp. But like, here's my thing. Like big feet foot keeps following everyone. But then they like he doesn't do anything. So like why is he even following you? Because I think he's just like he likes, maybe he just likes it. Yeah, he just likes the chase and once they see him he's like, oh, and he just
Starting point is 00:44:01 runs away. So I feel big feet fun. Big feet fun. I think he just likes be like that guy. Like he's like, do you think that he gets the hurled and like reads all these are pretty fun? I think he's got like on his wall somewhere in the woods. Oh my god, still a whole wall full of it. Yeah, just all his clippings and he's like, do you think he changed when he got famous?
Starting point is 00:44:22 I think he changed when he got famous. I really do. Maybe. I think he did. So that's as far as we go with Big Feet. I like your next topic headline that I just looked down at. Can I tell them what it is? So our next topic is Huge Cats. That's our next fucking topic is Huge Cats.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I just looked down and it's in all capital letters and a Linus notes. It is. It's just as huge cats. That's amazing. And that's precisely what it is. Love it. So huge cats. I'm not for that. Our scene in the Bridgewater triangle quite a bit actually. Not a catfail. This is one of those things that you can look at up. Google any of this, like any of the towns, like Eastern, Reynum, Bridgewater, Tonton, all these places. Huge cats have been written about in legitimate newspapers. We'll pop up of people being like funny story.
Starting point is 00:45:14 We've been seeing weird, huge African cats all over the place. You know, it's a Friday. And I mean, if you're not in Massachusetts, let me just lay it out for you. We're not Africa. So when we have African cats here, it's like it doesn't make a lot of sense to us. What happened? How did you get here cat? So there was one that was dubbed the Mansfield Mystery Cat,
Starting point is 00:45:35 which which just sounds fun. I like that. Mansfield Mystery Cat. Like I feel like he's like, that's a jazz band actually. He's just walking around like snapping, smoking a cigar. He's like I'm the man's real mystery cat. This man's field mystery cat started being reported widely in 1993. They said it was a huge tan cat like bigger than a mountain line. Shit. Which we shouldn't have. I don't want anything to do with that. No, it was reported in Easton as well. And there were also sightings of a black Panther type cat in the swamp areas. Nope, nope, like a giant black and people kept, this is like over and over dozens and dozens of reports would come into police being like, I just saw a black Panther in the swamp. Like why? Like, so this wasn't just one person
Starting point is 00:46:24 being like, so I was walking on the swamp But I saw a black paper. It was crazy. Why is everybody talking? I don't know why we're all talking like In 1993, I don't know why we're in like 1920s. I don't know. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm a lady. Well, a lady I saw a cat knows more like, hey, I saw a black Panther cat Yeah, so a lot of people, like police, we get flooded with reports from this newspaper, we just would go crazy about it. It was actually a thing.
Starting point is 00:46:52 And the one that I remember vividly, because I was like eight years old at this point. I wasn't alive. No, you were not three years until you were alive at this point. It was in May of 1993, a decapitated body of an African serval cat. What? Was found near the eastern random line. The head had been cleanly severed and was missing, and the body had no signs of injury, so the method of death may have well been decapitation. What if you were trafficked into a cult over shot nine times, or fell in love with a vampire,
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Starting point is 00:49:37 And also, you just cut its head off and then just dump it. Like, they just dumped it in like a big field, like an open field. So did people think that it was a, um, what people were like, what is this? Why is there an African cat in the middle of a field in Easton? Like it was one of human must have cut its head off. But Zarr, well, that was the thing when it was first reported, you were like, wait, so did something else.
Starting point is 00:50:00 He did said and like, what is bigger than an African cat around here? What's going on? But then you come to the whole like, so somebody cut its head off and you're like, how did they? How are they able to do that? And it's just like bizarre as fuck. And in, I believe in next episode, we're going to get into, there were a lot of animal medallations around this area too.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Which we'll get into because it ties into the idea that there was this like traveling cults Right that was going on, but we'll get into that next episode. A traveling cult? Yeah, which they still believe could be a thing Right now, but we'll get into that next episode. Like they're still traveling. Yeah, they're still traveling in the triangle Shit keeps going down. Oh God. So I just remember that like very vividly that that capping found in 1993 and it was like close to where we were at the time. And I remember being like, Oh, excuse me. What's happening right now? You're like not allowed to play at recess. Yeah, it was like not a good because there was like for a while when these cats were being spotted around people they were
Starting point is 00:51:05 like keeping kids in to eat for recess and stuff. Yeah, but they were worried. They were like literally like lions walking through the woods like what's happening. That's so great. Yeah, I love how like spooky that is because like cat like that's not scary but it's like weird. Yeah, it's just spooky.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I just love that. Yeah, it's very spooky. So the next thing we're going to talk about our giant birds. Okay. So basically what these giant birds that are always spotted in like flying over the swamp, they're thought to be thunderbirds. What's that? And basically it's an ancient bird. An inelgonquin mythology, the thunderbird controls the upper world while the underworld is controlled by the underwater panther or great horned serpent. Thunderbird was said to throw lightning at the underworld creatures and creates thunder by flapping its wings. Love that. That's badass as fuck.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Right. So people think that these are the birds that we're seeing or that there's some kind of like ancient tera-dactyl type thing because they're supposedly like 12 foot wingspan's and shit. These aren't like condors who are huge and we do have around but like, no these are like something ancient and crazy. And again, dozens and dozens of reports will come in in one time too. Like it's not like they get like spread over this like long period of time of like all these people just being like, I saw a big bird today. It's like, it's literally like one day. They get a dozens of reports like on the same day. We all saw this giant ancient thunderbird and it's like, okay, well, maybe you did them. So in 1971, a Norton police sergeant named Thomas Downey, a police sergeant, said he saw
Starting point is 00:52:48 a huge bird, six feet tall, with a 12 foot wingspan, while driving down Winter Street in Mansfield, which is an area known as Bird Hill. Oh, kind of funny. He said he watched it, like just stand there, like spread its wings, and then just slowly lift itself into the air and like flap away. Can you imagine seeing something like that? I would be in straight up stunt town USA.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I would want to, I'd be like, what is this a sign for? I would not, I'd be like, is that a good omen or a bad omen? Like is this the end times? Is this what's happening? I don't know. Apparently it wasn't. And what's funny here is, it's not like he immediately ran to papers and stuff and we're like,
Starting point is 00:53:34 what am I telling you about this big thunderbird I saw? Right. So he said he just slowly started telling a few people here and there because he was like, I gotta get this off my chest that I saw at Diodactyl. You know, you might wanna do that. And by the way, if you guys hear any like sizzling in the background, my husband is cooking dinner.
Starting point is 00:53:50 So. It smells really fucking good. It does. So he wasn't like running to go tell the story to like newspaper outlets and all that. And in fact, a lot of newspapers wanted to interview him about this. And he, so he was asked multiple times to give
Starting point is 00:54:05 his account of this and he said no, he refused. He wouldn't talk about it. Why? Because he was freaked out by it. I don't want people to think I'm crazy. So to me that's like more credible because he didn't want the attention from it. He was like no people are going to think I'm nuts and this is what I saw and I just want to unsee it. I just wanna unsee it. So yeah, so those are the thunderbirds that a lot of people seem to see. And I don't think they don't like mean anything bad or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:54:35 It's just kind of scary to see a fucking 12 foot wide bird. One might say. Yeah, imagine if that thing took a shit on your windshield. Oh my dam. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I may tell you. Yeah, that'd be rough. a shit on your windshield. Oh my damn. Oh Let me tell you yeah, that'd be rough no car wash for that sweetie. So There's also angry red-eyed ducks. I don't like that at all that is like a bad Yeah, old man Yeah, and people will see these when they're walking down trails in those like near the swamp or around the swamp people like randomly
Starting point is 00:55:02 Because a lot of people are like oh, so I was walking in the swamp at like dusk, and you're like, why are you doing that stuff? You're like, yeah, not a solid plan, sir. Yeah, don't do that. Man, man, do not do that. I only have one quick little tale about a red eye dog that was seen, but this is a pretty rough one.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Oh good. In 1976, an Abington fellow watched a huge black dog, he said huge, like bigger than a great day. Like the size of the... Size of a pony, basically. Oh shit. Rip open the throats of his two ponies, killing them. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And he said it was as large as a pony and was standing over them, killing them. What? And he shot at it, but it got away. And he said, for three days, he and like local law enforcement and some neighbors hunted this thing because they were like, is this a fucking dire wolf? Like, what the hell? Excuse me. And they couldn't find it again. But he said it was a huge black dog with like red fiery eyes. That's the most
Starting point is 00:56:01 terrifying thing I've ever heard. Horse throats. Nope. Like, that's no most terrible thing. And ripping out ever heard horse throats. Nope, like that's no joke. That's not a fucking little Sebastian like that. So another one, this one's like, this one to me is one of the spookiest tales. Oh, I hate this tale. And the guy who tells it tells it so well. I remember watching this documentary
Starting point is 00:56:23 when he tells the tale. It's a tale, man. But I hate this one. Now it freaks me out. This involves, this isn't, so this guy does not claim that what he saw was a puckwagy. But puckwagies are something that are often spotted in the swamp.
Starting point is 00:56:39 We might cover, we may be able to go into them a little more in the next episode because this is not like confirmed obviously to be a pukwajis. Right. But it's similar. It seems similar to what they are. So pukwajis are small troll-like creatures
Starting point is 00:56:53 associated with the Wampanoag in Native American folklore. They're said to be two to three feet tall, have big noses, big fingers, big ears, like covered in smooth gray skin a lot. Oh, I don't like that. And they're just like weird and mischievous and try to like lure you places and shit. Picture like Dobby the Hell House. Goodbye.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Picture Dobby the Hell Elf. That's what I was about to say. I'm literally what it is. Dobby the House Elf, but picture a hell elf. A hell elf. So this story that we're going to tell you is from 1990. It's a guy named William Russo. And he never, for decades, he didn't tell anyone this.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And then he just said that he figured he was getting up there in age. And he said, I feel like people should know about this. I just want to tell the tale. Tell this tale. I want it to be out there so people know. So at the time in 1990, he was working a three-to-midnight shift at work.
Starting point is 00:57:50 And he worked and lived in Raina Mest, she says. He would walk his big dog who was a rottweiler slash German shepherd mix named Samantha. Oh my god, I love that. When he got home at midnight every night, because he's a good dog owner, and you know, she has to go. So he said she was like 90 pounds in huge, like she was a big dog. One night when he was walking her in his neighborhood, he took like a slightly different
Starting point is 00:58:16 route than he normally did. And he said he didn't know why. There was no like, he didn't feel compelled to do this. He said he just did. He just did. Took a different route. He said he went behind his home, and there were a bunch of huge pine trees and power lines lining this and it's you know the swamp runs through here. He went about a half a mile
Starting point is 00:58:33 when he came upon a big old water wheel from an old ironworks building in the area like from hundreds of years ago. And at that point there was a street light at the road that was there that cast a big huge circle of light on the road below. He said it was like a 10 feet in diameter light. As he got to the road, he said Samantha was pulling and started quivering. Like a 90 pound routewiler was quivering. So you know some shit's about to go down.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Yeah. And he was like, I've never seen her do that in my life. Like he was like, he said she was, quote, rattling like an old Chevy. Oh my God, I love that. And then he said, at that moment, when he looked down to see her shivering, he heard something. And he said, he heard a high-pitched whale,
Starting point is 00:59:17 but they literally said, E1-2, E1-2, Kier, Kier. And that's what he said, it kept saying. Excuse me. And he said, that's what it's saying. E1 chew, E1 chew, Kier, Kier. And that's what he said it kept saying. Excuse me. And he said, that's what it's saying. E1 chew, E1 chew, Kier, Kier.
Starting point is 00:59:32 When he was saying it like that. When he was saying it like that. Like he wants you come here. Yeah, like we want you, we want you here, here. No, thank you. And he said when he looked up to see what the fuck was saying, these weird things, he said he saw something
Starting point is 00:59:45 about three or four feet tall standing in the middle of that light, that street light. And he said, he was standing on two legs and he covered in hair. And it also had a pot belly. He said, that's adorable. In a face that had slightly bigger eyes for its head, but he said not like overwhelmingly huge, but like just slightly bigger than what a human's for its head, but he said not like overwhelmingly huge, but like slightly bigger than what a human's eyes would be. And he said it kind of looked like he had the face of like a chipmunk almost.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Oh, that's cute. And he said he thought he looked like, at first glance, he said it looked like a child because it was so small. Right. But he said when I looked at it more, it looked like it was in the early stages of old age. Okay. Like it looked like it was in the early stages of old age. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Like it was like an elder. And he said and it was obviously speaking to me. Right. And I said and it was holding its arm out to me. So he literally said it kept saying the same thing over and over again and like beckoning him. And he was saying, he wants you. He wants you.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Kier. Kier. So he said he didn't feel threatened. Like it was gonna run at him or attack him or anything. But he said it definitely felt like he was trying to get him into his space. Right. He was trying to get him over to him.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Right. So he was fucking terrified. And he says he goes, I wish I could tell you that I was like this big tough guy and I walked over to it to see more about it. No, but he was like, nope. I don't blame you, sir. He said, I was terrified.
Starting point is 01:01:10 My huge dog was terrified. So they ran home. And he said he stayed up the whole night thinking over and over about what just happened because he was like, am I nuts? Like did I just lose my fucking mind? And he said, what I think he was saying was, we want you. We want you. Here, here. Nope. And he said that's he was, he goes, I think he was trying to speak English to me. And he said he really didn't tell anyone about it, like I said, because he said he had never seen
Starting point is 01:01:39 anything paranormal in his whole life. Well, he probably didn't want people to think he was crazy. Well, that's a guy. And he was like, I was never, I'm not this person who sees ghosts or anything. I've never seen anything weird or paranormal in my whole life. And I fucking one night see this shit. Then I see like the golden ticket of all creepiest like congratulations. You've made it to the chocolate factory. Jackpot. Whoa. He said 20 years later. Like I said, he was getting older and he wanted to tell this story because he was like, it has to be out there. People need to know that I saw this. He was the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:02:12 And he never saw it again. Uh, so that, that story to be is just like when he says like, when he says the words, like, he want you, he want you and he's like, care, care. Like he says it like, come on, come on. Let's go. And it's like, fuck, dude Like he says it like come on. Come on. Let's go. And it's like, fuck, dude. I feel like I'm so busy.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And they have this crazy astray. The drawing is a bananas. And it's maybe all posted because it's just the, it's like both scary and adorable all at the same time. That's the thing. But if I just saw this little hairy thing being like, you want to, you want to, I'd be like, hairy thing being like You want you. You want you. I'd be like I know you I know you. No, sir So another place that has a lot of happenings is a place called lake nip and nip it
Starting point is 01:03:07 Excuse me nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip nip Nippin' Nicket. Nippin' Nicket. That's fun. That's what it is. Nippin' Nicket. Nippin' Nicket. It's also referred to as the Lake of Doom. That's not so fun. Is what I'd like to say. And locals call it the nip. The nip. That's great. That is gold. You know, we're going to the nip. Just go to the nip. Let's take a dip in the nip. That's great. Thank you. Dip in the nip. So it's in right in the middle of this one, you know, right? So of course the swap is running all through here. This police has a lot of weird weird reports. There's there's big foot creatures, big feet, and people say when they're on the lake that they can hear sounds like monkeys. What? And people will be like, yeah, hey, are those monkeys in Massachusetts? Like, are we in Africa again?
Starting point is 01:03:51 Literally, like, what's happening? In Lauren Coleman, that famous cryptozoolologist, he said people told him many times, he said many reports of seeing a red-haired orangutan type creature there. You know, typical for this part of the country, the world. Super typical Massachusetts creature. There's always orangutans running around here. If you're not from Massachusetts, just know.
Starting point is 01:04:15 When you walk down the street, orangutans. Arangotans everywhere. Everywhere. Why do you think we say it's bananas? It's exact because we grew up with orangutans. With orangutans tanks and bananas. No, no, a ring of tanks are not native to Massachusetts. No, sir. So that's weird if you're hearing and seeing a ring of tanks. If you see it a ring of tank in Massachusetts, call someone. Call someone. Call Lauren Coleman.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Yeah, he needs to know. So there's also people in this happens a lot in this area, and then in another area that I'll talk about in a minute. People see phantom fires on the shore where they'll see this big fire, and sometimes they'll also see tribal dancers around this fire, or they'll hear chanting or they'll hear things on the shore, and when they get closer to it, it's not there.
Starting point is 01:05:07 It just goes away. And it's not like it dies out. It's not like it's a big bonfire. And it's just like, all of a sudden it's gone. It's just gone. I don't know how I would feel if that happened to me. And phantom fires seem to be a theme throughout the swamp. People will see fire through the trees when they're in there. And they'll be like they're like and I can't you can't really like hear it or like feel the heat from it or smell it.
Starting point is 01:05:31 You just follow it and it's just gone. Okay, I'm no to self. Don't go in the woods. Don't follow the fire. Don't go and go in the swamp. Yeah, it's not cool. It's also been the site of a lot of drownings and a lot of accidents. Oh, and I like that. But it's only 6 to 8 feet deep, but it's deepest part. Oh, that's what's really weird. That is super weird. Yeah. I mean, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:05:54 And let's you can't swim. Obviously, people drown in any amount of water. But for the amount of drownings and accidents that have happened here, which there are quite a few. For decades, it's odd. It's a very odd phenomenon. And this is a weird one. The skies over the nep have rained frogs.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Shut what? Like frogs wear a new- I just like no shut in fosh. What? They've literally like frogs have fallen from the sky. No. It's like a published report. No legit. What? Yeah explain Frogs falling from the sky
Starting point is 01:06:31 What like when I day I cannot explain Thursday like what I think it was the Thursday. I'm not really sure frogs were falling from the sky And in 2012 people are gonna turn this podcast off and be like, yeah, those girls went fucking crazy. It's published to report. I'm not making this up. What the fuck? And in 2012, something called a Bria Zoen,
Starting point is 01:06:56 which is a rare jellyfish-like creature that survived the ice age. What? Was found in the knit. What? Yeah. Is there like electromagnetic energy that is just like pulling the weirdest shit from around the world?
Starting point is 01:07:11 There's something. I'll tell you that much. Now we're going to go over to a weird rocks. Weird rocks. Of which we have a few. So there's something called Dighten Rock, which is a 40-ton boulder that was pulled from the water of the Tonton Riverbed and is covered in etchings. Etchings, like drawings? Like etch, yeah. Etchings, like no, the other kind of etching. Not a rush, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:37 There's a museum that houses this rock across from the Tonton Riverbed and it's a place called Grassy Island where in 1928 a Native American burial ground was discovered. Oh shit. And that was discovered by this like, think it was a Brown University professor, psychology professor, he lived like an expedition and they ended up finding a Native American burial ground. I wouldn't want to find one. I wouldn't lead an expedition to one. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't want to find one. I wouldn't lean an expedition to one. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that.
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Starting point is 01:08:24 I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. very ancient. And there's in the museum, you can see all the speculation about where they could have come from. They have the Phoenicians, the Norse, the Portuguese, all different ideas of where it came from, but no one has been able to definitively say. It's really interesting. That's interesting. It's spooky. It's like a spooky mystery.
Starting point is 01:08:38 There's also a rock called Profile Rock that we mentioned earlier in Free Town, Fall River State Forest, and that's the one that they think is possibly the face of Massa Soya, Chief Massa Soya. It's a very sacred space, even though it's covered in graffiti now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I know, isn't that shitty? Yeah. There's also in Abington, there was a profile rock called Lady Abington, who was in the woman's face. But it's gone now because of road building. So that's a part of it? Humans were in everything.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah. In Middleboro, Massachusetts, there's a rock with a literal handprint embedded in it. No. Yeah. And there's also a boulder with a face carved into it. Cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Like a smiley face. So mostly, it's a very, but it's like an ancient-y kind of look to it. Again, like total mysteries, like where they came from. And then there's one specific rock called anewon rock. And it's along Route 44 in Rojobeth. Now the reason that this one is so, that has like a very spooky history and there's a lot, a lot of activity around this one is two weeks after Chief Metacomit King Philip was killed. Benjamin Church led a team into Plymouth colony into the forest to get the rest of the
Starting point is 01:09:59 Native Americans, how they were going to round up and sell them into slavery like they did. You know, the rest of Metacombs tribe of warriors that were surviving surrendered peacefully to church. They did this August 28th, 1676. Chief Anilon was captured during this, and it became the official end to King Philip's war. That sounds fine and peaceful.
Starting point is 01:10:24 It does, except once they were taken out of there and shipped to Plymouth, churches orders to that they were peaceful, and they should be. They were, that was ignored, right? And the whole group of Wampanoag's that they captured were beheaded. So taken at the same time as this whole thing was a belt of metacombs, King Phillips, his Wampum belt.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Now, the Wampum belt basically tells the history of the tribe. Oh, that's cool. So it's a very special belt. And they took it. They took it. And what happened was it was said that Philip gave the belt to Anwan at Profile rock before he was killed. Okay. There are records that church received this, like, took this belt and then he lost it.
Starting point is 01:11:15 What did it do? Somehow it was going to be shipped somewhere and it ended up in transit. Nobody knows where it went. Well, I hope that they got it back. Well, now they didn't. Because now Native American spirits are said to haunt Anna Ron Rock and people will hear the Algonquin language. They'll hear chanting and drums beating. Oh, wow. Like, imagine going in the middle of the night and hear drums beating? Nope. Because they don't go to places at the middle of the night.
Starting point is 01:11:40 People also report phantom fires there, like I said, in full spectral ghost sightings. Like they'll see a full Native American chief standing in front of them. And then you run out of the forest so fast that you die. Exactly. And many people believe that whenever they see like this elder Native American standing in front of them, that it's anewon, that it's called anewon's rock. There was a report of someone going in there and hearing yelling and they were yelling Lutash Lutash which is Elgonquin for stand-in fight. Oh wow. Yeah, and a woman who runs a paranormal investigation
Starting point is 01:12:22 company decided she wanted to learn some key words in the Wampanoag language to deal with possible native American spirits that are not super psyched to see anybody in there. And so she really wanted to remember the word Neetomp because it means friend. Okay, so she wanted to go in there be like Neetomp. Neetomp. And so she said as she went in there she kept repeating the word over and over. She was like I just wanted them to know we were friends. I'm not trying to hurt them. And she said as they left the woods, they recorded on recording. Oh my god, I'm going to get the chills. I can feel a voice repeating me-tomp. And they also heard somebody and it was on the recording someone saying, Kinsman and Algonquin. Kinsman, so like we're bros. Yeah, like so we're bros.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Oh my god. And they have it not like recorded. That's awesome now During an interview on that bridge water triangle documentary About this specific place in the bridge water triangle This guy was talking about the belts the Wampum belt And he cited it and he said quote the weirdness and hauntings At anurone rock will probably happen until the Wampum Belt is returned. As soon as he finishes this, all the power went out. What?
Starting point is 01:13:32 And in the documentary, they put everything back on and they're like, holy shit dude, like that, everything just went out when you said that. So they're like, yes, it will. So they're like, whoa, so they, they like laugh about it because they're like, oh my god, that was creepy, like what the hell. And they get the power back up, they like laugh about it because they're like, oh my god, that was creepy. Like what the hell? Yeah. And they get the power back up. They're laughing.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And this guy says like into the like ether, like he looks up and is like, we hear your message. If I could, I would return it. Boom. Lights go out again. Holy shit. And it's like on the documentary. It's so creepy.
Starting point is 01:14:00 It's crazy. That's wild. So the last thing we're going to talk about tonight and trust me, there's lots more in the next episode. So hang tight is the Phantom Hitchhiker. This one's bananas and also my worst fear. Exactly. Because I've driven down this road multiple times. Oh yeah. And I'm so afraid to see this. Oh yeah. He's also known as the Red-headed Hitchhiker. afraid to see this. Oh yeah. He's also known as the Red Headed Head Tracker. It's you. It's me. He's seen on Route 44 at night, usually near the sea conch or Hobath line. That's where most of the reports come. Again, this is one of those things that gets reported over and over and over,
Starting point is 01:14:37 and it's also drilled into every kid's head and Massachusetts, like you hear this story. So he's usually said to be a well-built man between the ages of 45 and 55. He has red hair, crazy I know. He usually has a beard as well. Yep. Also red. They say he's usually dressed in a red flannel shirt with jeans or brown work pants and work boots. Got it. And it doesn't really stray from that description. I agree. Sometimes he's super well put together, like clean and together.
Starting point is 01:15:11 And other times he looks super disheveled with like overgrown facial hair, like dirty and untouched. Just depends how we're feeling that day. Aren't we all just sometimes we're super put together? Sometimes we're disheveled as fuck. There's no in between for me to be honest with you you don't get away from that in the afterlife. Sometimes you just gotta do it. Everybody has a bad
Starting point is 01:15:30 hair day. Yeah I mean I'm not gonna judge him. So most times he appears totally solid to drivers like like an actual person but then some people say like and then when I looked at him more he was like slightly transparent and I didn't notice it at first. And I was like, what are you saying? Which like, who among us has not seen someone have been like, they look slightly transparent? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:15:53 We get that a lot. We get that a lot. I am 100% transparent. Literally same. Like, you can look at my circulatory system in my arms. 110%. The sun sucks.
Starting point is 01:16:04 So I stand by that statement. The biggest thing that kind of like varies is his eyes, the description of his eyes. Some people say they look totally normal, but they say they'd get this feeling that they just don't feel right. Hate that. And, but some say they're black and totally empty. Awesome. Well, other people say they're glowing and totally empty. Awesome. Well, other people say they're glowing, the lifeless.
Starting point is 01:16:27 OK. So there's just a lot of variations in the eyes. This one really spooks me. I know. I'm like getting chills. So the earliest written record of this guy being seen was by Charles Turk Robinson and his 1994 book New England Ghost Files, which is like every
Starting point is 01:16:46 Massachusetts kid has read that. So one story is absolutely terrifying of this. So a couple broke down on Route 44 at about 10 p.m. The woman stayed in the car and the guy went to go like at you you know, call for a tow. They both had different experiences with the hitchhiker at the same time. The man saw him on the side of the road and tried to talk to him and be like, hey, like, we need a little help, can you help us? And he said the red-headed man began yelling at him.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Oh, God. And it's like, what the fuck? And then disappeared. But he said when he was disappearing, he heard laughing from all directions. No. Thank you. And as he made his way back to his car, he could hear the laughing like all around hate, thought hate, thought the woman who was sitting in the car waiting for her, her dude, heard the voice come over the radio, laughing and taunting at her through the radio until she ran from the car. I'm all set. Yeah, so that was not cool.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Fuck. And it's usually this kind of thing is like kind of typical. Like someone is driving along usually alone, but as long as this is like an open place in the car, he can kind of appear. No. And they see a man on the side of the road and they stop to pick him up. They'll get into the passenger seat of the back seat. All the time, every single time they say he stays silent, he ignores any questions you ask him. Which automatically is terrifying. Exactly. And in a lot of the times they'll say he's just staring at them.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Oh my God. No. No. No. No. No. No. I'm not into it.
Starting point is 01:18:35 No. Eventually, he'll just disappear. He's just, he either does it right in front of their eyes or they'll like look just back to say something to him and he's gone. Oh my God. I hate this one. Yeah. And this is usually, no, this is like my favorite. I'm sorry, this is just funny to me.
Starting point is 01:18:50 It wouldn't be funny if it happened to me, but it's funny from afar. When he banishes, it's not like he just banishes and that said, and you're like, well, that was weird. Why is this funny? Does he like farting go or something? Kind of. No.
Starting point is 01:19:02 He usually will disappear. And then you'll either hear him laughing, or yelling, or taunting you. Which to me, that's not funny. It's just wonder if he's like, he just vanishes slowly, then he's like, ah! I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:18 What does he say to taunt you though? I don't like that. And he's just like, you're never getting a promotion at work by. You're just like, God, David, that was taunting and mean. He probably has a lot of fun in the afterlife. Like, you know, he's just having fun.
Starting point is 01:19:32 He does. I just can't imagine something disappearing and then just yelling. No. He's being like, yeah. I feel like it's not that. I feel like it's probably a lot scarier. Yeah, I bet it's not.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Like, I'm, like, you shouldn't make fun of it because I hate it. I'm just gonna be like, I'm just stressing out. No, it's not that. I feel like it's probably a lot scarier. Yeah, I bet it's not. You shouldn't make fun of it because- I hate it. He's gonna be like- I'm stressing it. Yeah. No, it's not funny. It's not funny at all. I don't think it's funny in the slightest.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Well, some people, if he's not just, if he didn't pick him up, some people will see him on the side of the road and he's usually like vanishing into the woods or he's just waving and then disappearing. If you fucking wave at me and then disappear, no, don't. We have problem.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I have an issue with that. If you wave at me and then disappear. Some, this is awful. Some have seen him just suddenly being their vaccine. Yeah, that I've heard and not I'm just like, no. If I don't invite you, it shouldn't be allowed. Yeah, like some people will literally look in their roof and there and boom, he's just there.
Starting point is 01:20:26 And that's when you get into a car accident because I would literally roll my car over five times. 100%. I would, no. That would be it. Oh, that's my biggest fear. Well, and then some people, a lot of people, will drive through him, like he'll suddenly appear
Starting point is 01:20:40 in front of their car and they think they hit somebody. Oh my God. Oh, and then they find obviously that they didn't. Anybody in nobody's there. No. But they think they did. Which brings me to Lil's story. Oh God.
Starting point is 01:20:54 So this is my friend of like a billion years. Lil telling her story, her first hand account of seeing the red headed attractor. So let me preface the story by saying, I practically grew up with a copy of the New England Ghost Files, pretty much on my night stand for most of my childhood. My sister and I would read from it a lot, probably
Starting point is 01:21:17 after listening to Robert Stex, voice for hours, unsolved mysteries, my OG Ben Show. Now, in this book, since I grew up in Dight in Massachusetts, there's a particularly popular story, which was featured. You might have heard of it. Fast forward, now quite a bit. Picture it, Roobeth, 2004. I, an now 16-year-old new driver,
Starting point is 01:21:39 transporting my best friend to Starbucks, because who doesn't need a frappuccino at 9 p.m. Oddly enough, and I say oddly because Alina will find this part particularly rad, I vividly remember listening to the piano bridge of Hurricane by something corporate. Naturally, I was playing the piano while driving the car, completely safe, but I was amazing until I always switched to the drum solo. I digress. So it's dark. We're on 44, driving my 1995 Toyota Tercel, who I aptly named Terry.
Starting point is 01:22:12 I'm mid drum solo when I full-blown panic. Just panicked. Started screaming and pointing, nearly hitting, hitting. The man standing on the side of the road. I guess if I hadn't known the legend before, if I hadn't been exposed to it growing up, I probably would have just been a 16 year old who was giggling at the disappearing hitchhiker or what I thought I saw.
Starting point is 01:22:38 But instead, I lost my shit. My friend had no idea what I was freaking out about because she didn't actually see him. I know, I know. Whatever. I probably didn't actually see him. I know, I know. Whatever, I probably didn't really see him. That's what everybody says. But I did. I know what I saw. My friend still thinks I'm crazy to this day, so it's okay if you do too.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Initially I did pull over and confirm that there was no sign of human life anywhere. We drove up and down that road, no less than 10 times that night to make sure or kind of wanting to see him again. But we didn't, we never saw him again. Just as the legend said, he was wearing red flannel and to be fair, that is about all that I noticed before I started to scream. I guess the fact that he then disappeared tipped me off to the level of creep that existed that night as well. We did try many times after that to see him again. 90% of the places we went to in high school were on Route 44, so we would always look especially at night and we never ended up seeing him again except for that one fateful night. So yeah, he's legit. It was real.
Starting point is 01:23:45 I saw it with my own two eyes. Lil's funny, she is funny. I love that she was listening to something corporate and having a good drum. So the first time I was doing the piano, which I was really good at, and then I transitioned to the drums, and then he fucked up my world.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I wonder if she could listen to that song anymore. I know. She put a chin in her grape and he can't stop. So this is just like really quick, but I swear to you guys, one day I was taking out the trash. I was in my driveway and there's like a little section of woods like right across the street from my house. Like there's a house like adjacent to my house
Starting point is 01:24:22 and then there's just woods. Still to this day, I hate going home at night. I know. Because I always feel like someone is watching me from those woods. I do always, always, always, always. That always spooks me. I'm not kidding you. I get out of the car and I book it.
Starting point is 01:24:35 I used to be the same way. And nine out of ten times when I, and when we're like finishing up recording, I'm like, shit, I have to go home and I have to run and I have to get inside the house and lock the door. Now that I've been spooked sufficiently. But one time it was still light outside and I was bringing out the trash
Starting point is 01:24:50 and I just felt weird. I felt like someone was watching me and I swear to you, I heard someone go, shh. Ugh. And I ran the fucking side and that's the day that I started running inside. I'm not into it. Yeah. I'm not into it.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Yeah. I am not into it. Note me either. And then if you haven't heard this episode where I talked about, I had to drive to fall river for something. Oh, yeah. And I think I might have been in free. Like I think I had just seen a sign for like the free town state for me just or something
Starting point is 01:25:21 like that. And I am driving behind this car, and then the car in front of me suddenly changes lanes, and like really abruptly, and I'm like, whoa shit. And then the car in front of me, there's like stuff like flying at my car from their car, like they had just gotten an accident or something. So I switched lanes, and I kind of just like looked
Starting point is 01:25:40 at the car, and I saw this woman with blood literally dripping down her face. I can never unsee it. I was so freaked out. I can't even express to you how freaked out I was. I literally called the police and I was like, yo, just so you know. That's good. And I still don't know what happens. That's exactly what you do. I still don't know if it was real. I mean, I think it was because the car in front of me was like, by girl, you look, I'm fairly certain. And I drove, I think I remember like driving past the next person and like us looking at each other, like we're in this
Starting point is 01:26:09 and we're horrified together. Did you see that bloody face line? Oh, and then I was just so, it gave me the most fucked up feeling. I wonder what happened to the bloody face line? Why was she bleeding? I just need to know. Well, I think she had just been in an accident. And it's like still.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Oh, I don't like to talk about it too much because then I see it for a long time. Yeah, that's sketchy So, but it was near free town and I live in the middle of the I don't know where exactly in the triangle. I live somewhere in there. I'm in it and I've heard things and I feel people Watching me from the woods. Yeah, so I said it out loud so it's real so that That is at the beginning of our series. Thewater Triangle. We hope that you enjoyed it. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Lots of cryptids, lots of ghosties.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Lots of puccoa geese. What's your thing? Spook. We'll talk a little bit more about next week. Yeah. But we hope you dug it and let us know if you did. And if you're around here, stay out of the swamp. Yep. Don't go in the free time forest. Cool. That's another thing that we're going to be getting into in the next couple of installments of this
Starting point is 01:27:13 is a lot of bad things have happened in there. So stay tuned. Stay tuned because there's a lot of bad stuff coming. So, but yeah, so in the meantime, if you want to keep listening to us, you should that. You should and you should follow us on Instagram at morbidpodcast follow us on Twitter a morbid podcast join the Facebook group with the awesome fucking moderators morbid colon a true Grand Podcast send us a Gmail morbid podcast to Gmail back on check out the website that my lovely co-hosts So, efficiently and awesom designed. morbidpodcast.com.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Is that it? Yeah? Oh no, no, no, no, don't need to the Patreon if you're feeling so inclined. Patreon.com slash morbidpodcast. We hope you keep listening. And we hope you keep it. Weird. But not to wear that you like get into like this Native American war and you're really
Starting point is 01:28:00 fucking mean to the Native Americans because you shouldn't be mean to the Native Americans. And then it causes all this disruptiveness. And then you go into the forest and you see a big hairy guy And your mom never taught you not to yell up the big hairy guy and then you run out of the forest and you go to the bus stop And you're like, oh my god What do we see and then puckewajis and then yochi come here and then it's just a lot of shit that happens Also, if you see a big bird just don't keep it that weird. I tried on that one. Hey, Prime Members! You can listen to morbid, early, and Add Free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today, or you can listen Add Free with Wondery Plus and
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