Morbid - Episode 9: The Axeman of New Orleans AKA A Real Crumb
Episode Date: July 12, 2018Gather 'round you cats and chicks and moldy figs. We are about to take a trip in the way back machine to a time when New Orleans was more known for influenza than for beads. In 1918 (possibly... 1911 but that's debatable), a jazzy, caguely poetic monster was demanding New Orleaneans play his favorite jazz tunes or he would take his axe to their noggins. It was all very bizarre and that's the way we like it. So, join us for The Axeman of New Orleans, ya bunch of barn burners. Sources: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/axeman-new-orleans-preyed-italian-immigrants-180968037/ The Axeman Of New Orleans by Miriam C. Davis See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey weirdos, I'm Molina, I am Ash, and this is morbid.
N-E-O-N-O, creep and mule sign.
Ha-ha-ha-ha.
Who am I? I was born ready.
Let's have a chit chat.
We're not in the pod lab tonight.
Oh yeah, that's why I'm feeling wild and cry crying.
Yeah, we're feeling fancy free because we're in the living room.
We're this coaches.
And it's not.
Swelter, or helpder, swelter.
Swelter, squelter. Swelter, squelter. Smelter, smelter. Smelter, smelter.
Correct.
We forgot your own catchphrase.
I don't know what's happening.
Well, and what's upsetting is we're not
going to have that chance of you falling out of the recliner.
Honestly, I can probably fall out of this chair too.
Will it make us good a noise though,
as the recliner hitting the floor?
I'll make a good noise.
Yeah, and you know what, I believe in you.
You can always count on me to make a good fat kid noise.
I believe in you.
I like you the other one during Ted Bundy.
It was like, whoa, whoa.
I was like a weird dog.
It was me who let the dogs out of my own diaphragm.
I'm like cracking you up.
I'm like crying. I don't know why.
I know, I don't make you laugh this hard.
I know, I think it's because I'm going crazy because we, as you know, are transitioning
the girls into toddler beds.
And for anyone listening who has young children, I urge you not to do that.
I got so much free birth control today.
It's wild.
Like just keep them in a crib.
I'm gonna keep them in a crib.
I'm gonna keep them in the next 30 years.
Until they're like 16 years old.
Just keep them in a crib.
I'm telling you, they need to stay in cribs.
And it's upsetting that we made this choice,
but we're here now.
Yeah, they're wild, is.
So we need to live with it.
But basically, it's like
having newborns again but like they can say things to you now and yell at you. I also got punched
in the face by a two-year-old today. Yeah it's it's not a good like terrible twos are a thing guys.
Yeah terrible twos are a thing but anyway it's not a parody. No.
But anyway, it's not a parody podcast. No.
Sorry.
But that's why I'm laughing so hard at Ash because she's
schooling out funny.
So that's the reason I don't go do something.
So my husband and I were just in our room last night
getting ready to go to bed.
And we have an air conditioner in their window.
So you can hear the outside world a little better.
And all of a sudden out of the blue we hear this like screeching screaming sound
directly outside our window and it sounded for a brief second like a screaming
child. But John and I looked at each other like dead-ass just stared each other in
the face the entire time it was happening. So we're clearly really good in these situations if it was a human because we
would just stare at each other until they died. That's good. But then we realized it was definitely an
animal. And I'm pretty sure it was a bunny because I know that bunnies are known to like when
they're being attacked or they're scared or anything, they scream. And usually, and people say they sound like a woman
or a child screaming and this thing sounded like that.
And now I'm really upset and I'm sad
and I hate that I heard it.
Because then I Googled bunny sounds.
Why?
Well, because I wanted to make sure
I didn't hear something like really crazy.
Really?
Morbid?
Except it really was morbid.
Yeah.
Colinatrue Cran podcast. But yeah, so that's something I'm living with and now all of you are living with it too. So...
You're welcome. You're welcome. Oh, do you know who I want to shout out today? Who? Your friend. My friend? Yeah, DeBora.
DeBora! Because she said that I made her laugh and she doesn't like true crime, but listens to our podcast and she said it weirdly calming to her which like Deb I got news for you
You are true crime fan now. It's true and and Deb and I have been friends since we were like
I don't even know how old Debbie how old are we remember we were really young
Like junior high
Yeah, you were alive. I was probably not a lot. Like, junior high. We were a lot. I guess not as a life. Yeah, you were a life.
I've known her, like, you know, I've known her even
before with her friends.
So she's definitely not a true crime fan per se.
But she is an amazing best friend
because she supports the podcast regardless.
And she actually listens to it.
She's a friend of mine by a sec.
Exactly.
And she actually listens to it. And she's actually listens to it.
I know it because she's,
because at first I was like,
are you just being a really good friend
and telling me that you listen
and maybe just subscribing just to like give me my numbers?
But then she gives me little like tidbits
that I was like, girl, you listen to the podcast.
She means when I made her laugh.
I appreciate her.
And speaking of Debbie.
Oh yeah, this is a fun story where we could have
died today. Okay so I'm just gonna set the scene for you. Two mothers, me and Annie, are leaving a
park with three children? Yes they're with three. Yes they're with three. Good thing I was there.
Anyways this woman literally just walks up to us like no hello or anything. And let me just like
preface this by saying we live in
like a very like nice sleepy little town that like everybody's kind of just like waves to you.
Exactly. But they all wave to each other like neighbors when you're in like we're in like a nice little
neighborhood where neighbors wave at each other and they look out for each other something
maybe we're just thinking of trying to murder someone on my street we all look out for each other so.
If you've ever seen good markerals our neighborhood slash town is literally stars hollow
yeah it's a little bit like stars hollow a lot of it yeah but anyways so this woman
locks over to us with her cute dog and she has like this like container and she's like you
guys want some snap peas and all of us just reached in without questioning and ate a snap pea
she was like these are from my
garden, they're fresh from my garden and we were like that's legit and we just ate them without
questioning anything. She was like my name's Marcy I love Don Street where do you guys live and we
all hold to where we lived. Like our actual streets. We I mean that's like against every thing I've
ever stood for. I took for some reason.
And told her where I lived.
Yeah.
And told her my name, same.
Like, what?
Yeah.
Have I learned nothing?
Yeah, we've learned nothing from ourselves.
So if we do turn up missing dead tortured, something like that,
it was Marcy with snappies from her garden.
But like Marcy, if you're listening,
thanks for the snappies.
Yeah, that was good.
You know what? If we live through this Marcy, if you're listening, thanks for this nappy's. Yeah, that's good. You know what?
If we live through this Marcy girl, well done.
Well done growing them snappies.
Not only did I have one, I had a couple.
Oh yeah.
Oh, I reached in and had another one.
And I thought nothing of it.
No till like later on when we got home I was like, I just took food from her.
Yeah, as soon as I got home I was like, wow.
That was risky.
Risky behavior. That's like the most like, I can't. Yeah, as soon as I got home I was like wow yeah, that was risky risky behavior
I can't I
That's us raging against our own safety
Yeah, so that's that's our updates for today. Here you go. And now
We bring to you the
madaboo! It was so loud. Oh my god. That even scared me. They're like sleeping
children here. Whoa. That was the gym. It was so loud. Are you all right?
Madaboo! Basically that badab blah was for the X-man the X-man of New Orleans
Boo-jazz
Like scat like scat up a scat up a bapidoo bap
Do it up it up I'm Chicks and cats and the cats man.
And Yiddig, that's all jazz.
The Batman.
The Bogeyman.
So yeah, the Axeman of New Orleans.
I like the rain.
It's probably that giant bug that landed on you earlier.
No, like I'm dead serious, I think it farted.
I'm dead like farted itchy gas all over me
Because it was that's usually how it works
I think that's just biology
It was so big and it like buzzed in my ear and then I swatted it away and I swear to you
It was like the size of a bat. This is why I hate summer fuck summer like fall get here
We're waiting for you. I need you.
Oh, except I really just wish that you could skip over September. I don't mind September.
Wake me up when September ends. And it's October. I mean, all right, Billy Joe.
That's how I feel though. But I don't mind September because as soon as September 1st comes I'm like
get those pumpkins in here let's make some pies. I don't care if it's a hundred
degrees. I would really go at 400% and just sleep through all the time to make up
on October 1st in a fucking coffin and be like, no, no October is my favorite.
Oh it's legitimate. But September but it goes so fast that I need September as my like pre-October.
September is my pre-October and I actually made that up last year. Thank you. Did you? Yeah.
Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah. Oh, I did. Wow. I mean that I had to store that in the back of my head.
September, I refer to it as pre-October. Well, and that's why I like it because you get like an extra
month of October. Yeah. Transition.
I think that I'm actually going to rewatch Coven in October.
Ooh, yeah.
In a chest.
That's a good idea.
American Heart of Stoddy.
Love it.
Blood.
And actually, that is a nice little segue into the X-Man of Nolens.
Because.
Tell me.
Well, anybody who watches American Horror Story might be like, huh? hmm, we talking about that X-man of Norland's.
You know what, buddies?
We are.
We are indeed.
Yeah.
So we're taking it way back.
To 1911?
Nope.
Oh, I'm not factual.
No.
We are taking it way back to 1918.
So the X-man murders were a series of burrito crimes that occurred in um, New Orleans.
With an axe.
Yeah.
They started back in May 1918 and they ended around October 1919.
So it was about 18 months, like ish.
You know, like a year and a half fish.
It's a mirror.
It's 18 months old.
Well, that's, you know.
I don't know.
It's like a year and a half.
They lasted a little over a year.
Now, like we mentioned before, you may remember this
from American Horror Story Coven.
It was a fictionalized version of it.
They had true parts of it, but it was obviously fiction because the show identified the murderer.
And in real life, no one has ever been identified for these crimes.
On the self-mysteries of Lena Nash. Whoop! So, I'm gonna start this out with a few little tidbits about what New Orleans was like
in this time period because 1918 is like, you know, it's like a minute ago, so like
you guys might not remember it.
I remember it fully.
I mean, we remember it.
But you guys might not.
I don't want to expect everybody to remember 1918.
This was the last year of World War I. About a month before the killings began in April 1918,
there was a big screening at the Barone Street Strand Theater and it was of Charlie Chaplin's
new film, The Dogs Life, which sounds like a Pixar movie. It actually might be a Pixar movie,
isn't it? Isn't it like, isn't it? It's It actually might be a Pixar movie isn't it?
Isn't it like isn't there one that's like dogs at home and you get to see what they do?
I don't know. Oh shit maybe that is a dog's life. I feel like it is. I think like Louis CK was a
voice of it and he's like a dick now and that like and in the beginning when everybody liked
Louis CK people were like that's a good reason to go see that movie and now everybody's like that's
a good reason to burn that movie. Yeah so yeah and in this kind of just shows you where we're at here that it was like a big screening of Charlie Chaplin's
movie. So it was exciting and like kind of spooky because Charlie Chaplin himself actually showed up to see
the completed film for the first time. So that's kind of cool. So he was hanging around New Orleans right
before this whole slaughter began, like the month before,
which is kind of weird.
Imagine if he got slaughtered.
That's what I'm saying.
It must be so weird.
Like, imagine if he even got slaughtered.
Like, whoa.
I can't even think of him being slaughtered.
So during this time, there was also this really fun thing,
a flu epidemic.
That's always fun.
During the killings in the fall of 1918,
there was about a 12 week stretch or so,
where New Orleans was literally the epicenter
for another killing machine.
Spinach influenza.
Oh, fun, fun.
During this time, it was literally like spreading around the globe.
There's estimates that nearly 50 million people contracted it fatally, which is bananas.
It mainly started out in US military camps in over in Europe.
The first reported case was in October 1918 in a military encampment on the campus of Tulane University.
They tried to quarantine everybody, didn't work.
So, once it hit, schools closed,
theaters, concerts, every, like all the places closed,
they canceled things, businesses went on weird,
staggered schedules, they didn't want to
overcrowd street cars because, you know, people
breathing on each other, that shit will spread like wildfire
That's always gross anyways. I know right you ever take the tee for anything?
Oh the worst. Yeah, I mean you gotta do what you gotta do but man you see some shit on the tee. Oh yeah
I used to commute into a Boston for like like every single day and I would be on the tee for like at least four hours a day
Let me tell you the amount of shit. I've seen things.
I've definitely contracted some weird colds and shit.
I don't know where you were going to go with that.
I contracted some weird disease.
I was like, why are you sitting on my couch?
So there was some early attempts at vaccines
because this was a minute ago.
A minute.
But unfortunately, it all failed.
So stores actually ended up like passing their products
out the doors.
Like they wouldn't have people come in.
They just pass it to the most obvious drive-through.
Which is kind of smart.
I'm like, well, just do that now.
Why are we all going in places?
Restaurants were empty, like everywhere
was kind of a ghost town for a while.
Even public gatherings
ended up being banned so they really didn't want people gathering and spreading out the
reference. Not that it worked. So the city itself New Orleans had a high death rate in a whole
another round of the flu that hit in the fall of 1919 which is when the axman ended his reign.
Okay. Which is kind of weird. Maybe he got the flu. Maybe he is the flu. I mean,
I was pleased to say. I had to think about that for a second. It's like who's to say really?
Are you the flu? I've met some people that might be the human body of the flu. I for sure.
I'm pretty sure the human and body of the flu is running the country right now.
So yeah, that's all not.
And I say running very loosely.
It's like just hanging out in the lighthouse.
So he's moving on.
But my thought, I'm like, hmm, I wonder if he succumbed to the flu.
Oh, yeah, because it is kind of weird that you know, I don't remember
I just said when it stopped. But I thought it. Yeah, you didn't. Or maybe you did. Did I?
I don't know. Who are you? Well, what's this podcast? I don't know. I might be the ex-man.
Do you like jazz? Give it a map. Yeah, it's late guys. And I'm distracted right now because Anderson
Cooper is on the screen.
I was gonna mention it, but then I was like, I need to stop mentioning the TV, but I love
Anderson Cooper.
He's so handsome.
He is.
Can I just say that I really...
His eyes are so blue.
So blue in the tie-brings that I have.
So blue.
So blue.
So blue.
Anyway, can I just say that I really want him and Andy Cohen to be together.
I also endorse that.
I support that.
I'm gonna campaign for that. I'm gonna
wear a button. I'll make cold calls. I don't know who I have to call for it, but I'll
call them. Bravo. He is Bravo. Bravo. No, I really hope they're together, but the
last day. So back to the X-man. Cool. Wow, That was a weird detour we just made. Back to the murder and mayhem.
So in the end of all this craziness, we don't know if he contracted the flu and died,
but it is weird that he stopped his shit when the flu stopped.
So in the end, the city of New Orleans had one of the highest death rates in the country.
About 4,000 people died of the flu and other related shit like the Hound Yeah.
Full of shit. 4,000? Yeah. Just in the city of New Orleans. That's wild. And a lot of them were young and healthy.
New Orleans wasn't even just like old people. Yeah, I've never been there. Yeah, I have
neither, but it's on my bucket list. Oh my god, me too. So, and a fun little fact,
this is just a nerdy science fact that was interesting to me While bacterial infections were like pretty understood by 1918. Yeah
Viruses weren't so attempts at vaccines were kind of like a few tile at this point
So it's just kind of interesting that they had like bacteria on on lock. Yeah, but viruses. They were like
You were wily, wily viruses.
So that's just a little interesting,
Tid bit, about 1918.
So I am back to murder.
So the murders happened over a period of about 18 months,
like I said.
In total, there were 12 attacks,
and oh, six confirmed death.
So, you know, that's not a great scorecard for him.
No.
It's a great scorecard for victims, but it's not a great scorecard for him. No, it's a great scorecard for victims,
but it's not a great scorecard for him.
Yeah, the victims have a better scorecard in this.
I mean, you don't wanna be only shooting to win
50% of the time.
Yeah, when I was cheating off your notes,
I was unimpressed, yeah, right?
It's more entertaining than anything else.
Yeah, right.
So, I mean, RIP, you know.
I mean, but his attacks were like, you know,
pretty consistent because he had almost one attack a month at that rate, right?
You know what I mean? So that's pretty high volume. I can't wait for the part when we get to his letter.
Yes.
Okay, right. Don't spoil it.
Barrel through. So he became known as like the bogeyman because he had a
Pension for creeping into your house at night like an asshole.
And then it was literally in my notes because fuck this guy.
And he would murder people in their beds.
Which is just so rude.
So yeah, he was prone to tagging people at the most vulnerable time, which is just douchey.
It almost sounds well not completely, but like the golden state killer.
Yeah, it's like these little, yeah, the assholes who do that, I'm like, yeah.
Just kidding. What a big scary monster you are. Yeah, you're sneaking these little yeah the assholes who do that I'm like yeah, just got it What a what a big scary monster you are yeah, you're sneaking into my room. I'm
People are unconscious and can't it yeah high-key my biggest fear though. Oh
100%
But it's just like I just think it's really douchey. I am a window locker. Oh, yeah
Like I think we talked about this in the last podcast. Yeah, we did
Lock all your windows because you know what what did we say?
Fresh airs for dead people.
A way to say that.
I thought it was where maybe we'll put it on a screen.
Where it on a button.
We're not selling buttons.
Learn it, live it, love it.
Oh, that's like from a job breaker.
I was really hoping you would say that last one in Unison with me like in the movie.
I thought we were having like a mind-meld moment for a second But you didn't and now I feel a little no
Different though she says does she say we love it love it learn it live it and then they both go love it
Yeah, you're welcome. You're welcome. Thank you
Please thank you love you. Okay. I
It's by let oh
Maybe if you know
And swoon swoon swoon god. I love her is my gallon that is her best felt love her and I love to watch that movie if you've never seen it. Rosemaking Allen, Swoon Swoon Swoon. God, I love Rosemaking Allen.
That is her best filter.
I love her.
And I love her in that movie.
Oh my God, yes.
Like, love her.
Lover.
Lover.
Okay.
So to this day, no one has cracked the ax man of New Orleans case.
His identity remains a mystery, which is kind of crazy.
Some people even think he was some kind of supernatural jerk
Who came to this earthly plant plane just to stir up some shit like a demon?
Yeah, which is like a bummer to say the least we should cover some paranormal. Oh, we're for sure going to okay
Well, but if this is true
Then like that would mean
that not only do we have to worry about
like fellow shitty human beings being the worst,
but now any spirit with like a rage issue
can just come chop us all up on a whim.
They probably could though, already.
Like I'm hoping they don't.
Like I'm hoping this is not that.
Don't you, because my house is hell of haunted.
Yeah, I'm not.
And we'll definitely cover that
because it was my house growing up.
We should just cover our house in one of those days.
We really will.
So not only was it a huge turd
for taking people out when they didn't even see him coming,
but he didn't even bring his own shit.
Oh yeah, didn't he take other people's acts?
He used other people's tools and access to kill them with.
Which I have a valid motherfucking question.
What?
Why didn't they just start putting
their axes elsewhere other than like outside and like in their barns or whatever? Well because
he also started using other shit. Yeah. Like he would kind of use what he saw. But mostly
axes right? Mostly axes and like you know, hatchets and stuff. But like a lot of these people
used axes to chop wood and shit. Well just screw the wood for the time. And where are you gonna put it where you can't find it?
Get rid of it.
Forever, you don't need an axe.
No you need it.
The only way to like heat your house is chop wood for fire.
And spy it from some dude.
No, it was 1918 man.
I know.
There wasn't like you know, log dealers.
I would just have a lot of people.
You know all those log dealers that are around everywhere now?
I'm not gonna do that. There wasn't those just floating around back then. I would get really crafting and so making blankets
You would then you would be flourishing in this time. I would you would not you would not flourish in this
You would flourish in like the 70s like we said
60 70s. So come to trial and incidents. 100.
You would flourish for a while and then you blaze out in a flame of glory.
No, I really would have flourished in the 70s.
No, you really would.
But not in 1918.
No.
You wouldn't.
Was that prohibition?
No.
Up to 20s.
Prohibition won't work out for me.
No, wouldn't have.
I'm, man.
So to make it worse, you not only took their own shit to kill them with,
you'd just leave it there afterwards.
That's lazy.
Yeah, that's lazy as fuck.
And they didn't have fingerprinting back then or they did.
It was a thing, but it wasn't like the first thing.
Yeah, it wasn't like everybody did that the first thing,
and it wasn't entirely like you know
It obviously what is isn't what is today, but it was it was a thing so but I guess it just wasn't something that they were really
But they never bought any fingerprints. They might have but again, this is 1918
So a lot of the records are not exactly clear. They might have, but at the same time, it's not like they had like aphys
that we have now where you can just plug them into a computer. And it brings up everybody.
In 1918, they were like, well, we have these fingerprints.
I like to picture like this Jesse mofo popping up on a computer with like a pin-stripe suit and
like a nice hat. Like a zoot suit. Like he has a cigar in his shot.
Like that's what he looks like in my shot.
Well, there is a description of him later.
So maybe he'll fit.
Okay.
But, so yeah.
He really loved axes, like we said,
but he also had a fondness for taking a straight razor
to his victims' throats for some sweetie Todd realness.
So, that's cool.
Yeah.
That's very, you know, musical fairer
of him. Often to get into the home, he would chisel like a bottom panel of a door
open, which is bizarre and weird. How he fit through there. Well, it's even weird
because if you, so you have to think of like, you know, how a door has those
different panels, like, you know what I mean, like little rectangles.
Those are usually, usually thinner wood. So what he would do is take like a chisel to literally chisel out those thinner, that thinner part.
But again, thinking of that, that's a very small piece.
And also, well, if you look online, this picture is of a couple of these crime scenes, like the, the doors. They are very small holes that he was making.
So he must have been a thin guy?
Well, even a thin guy.
I don't even think that would work.
So what I-
Do you think that he reached his hand up in a little door?
Well, that's what I think is that he was reaching up
to unlock the door.
Which means he could have been a even bigger guy
because he probably needs a long arm to do that.
Right.
But he would also-
I don't even think he would bring his own chisels.
So apparently chisels were like rakes and everyone just like fucking have a chisel hangin' out outside
Where am I doing a chisel?
A chisel is like it's like the thing where you take something and like hit it to chisel something like you chisel ice with it
So what in how do you know chisel?
I like how I'm telling you what a chisel is by saying the word chisel over and over again
You know chisel is a chisel
It's a chisel where you you know it's a thing where you chisel Oh chisel over and over again. That must be helping. It's a chisel way, you know, it's a thing where you chisel.
Oh chisel.
You know.
But what do people hear him breaking in?
Like, are chisels loud?
Well, that's what I mean, the kind of,
but like, it's not like it's electric or something.
I mean, like, it's just somebody like slowly doing it.
And if he kind of painstakingly did it,
I guess he could have quiet.
I can't sound it.
Yes, he has. My AC changes like some tempo sometimes I guess he could have quite an exiled at night. Yes, he had been.
My AC changes like some tempos and times and I wake up and listen to that.
Wow.
That's kind of, that's crazy.
You're a light sleeper.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know if I would hear the chisel, but, you know, I don't know.
I feel, it's 2018, so I feel like better ways.
So, he didn't just come after anyone it seemed. He was mostly hitting Italian
Americans and they usually were they were usually owners of businesses or stores or grocers.
That is possibly the most specific victim profile I've ever come across like an Italian
American who owns a grocery or store of some sort. Right. And it's like, what the fuck are you doing killing off Italians?
They make amazing food.
Yeah.
Like, what do you do?
And you're killing the grocers?
Like, Italians are vital.
Like, let's just be real.
And especially back then, like, what are you doing getting rid of grocers?
Yeah, and I thought they made good wine too.
Yeah.
Times make great wine. It's just weird. It's like Yeah, and I thought they made good wine too. Yeah. Dines make great wine.
It's just weird.
So like very weird and racist.
Yeah, hell racist.
And like just very odd.
Very odd.
So he also didn't really discriminate
when it came to gender age.
That was one thing he did not.
He was not particular about.
His victims included women and children.
There is some speculation about whether his killing
spree began earlier than 1918, but it's been like
highly debated.
Because in 1911, this is back in 1911.
See, I knew I had somewhere with that.
Similar attacks occurred on Italian Americans in 1911.
Some believe that the Axeman was just a respectable citizen of New Orleans with a weird juggle and hide personality that
Comes out sometimes and that's why they were like maybe he did this in
2011 was able to go back to normal life and then come back again
Did you see 2011?
1911
You definitely did maybe he did the maybe he did this because he's in the future. I mean, maybe he is a supernatural being and he's doing it in
2011. I don't know don't say that. I don't know. I don't know his life. I don't know
I
Still you do know his life though. You have like 10 pages of research about a lot of his life
So John De Antonio a detective from the time that the Axeman attacks were happening
He believed this person's alter ego could lie dormant for months or years, which would make
it so that the 1911 attacks wore him as well.
He allegedly stated that the attacker may have been, like I said, a respectable law-biting
citizen when his normal self, compelled by an impulse to kill, must obey that urge.
So he was thinking like,
it's gotta be this dude that can literally shut it off.
And but when it comes, it comes and he's gotta go.
But he's just gotta go.
But he can shut it right off.
Which, I mean, we have seen this happen with like BTK,
is a perfect example.
BTK stuff, like 30 years or something like that.
That is wild.
And then all of a sudden decided he wanted to start again.
And when he came back, he said he was like starting, like, we'll do BTK even though
I fucking hate BTK.
And when he came back, he said he started trolling again.
Like he felt the need again and he started watching people.
He had people written down that he wanted to hit.
He was ready to begin the whole fucking thing over again.
And he had stopped for 30 fucking years.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure it was like 30 years.
It was a long time.
So I mean, it does happen.
It's not crazy.
So let's get to the victims.
Boom, boom, boom.
So that was very jazzy for the victims.
I'm being jazzy because he's jazzy. I know. And honestly, we haven't even introduced why he's jazzy for the victims. I'm being jazzy. Because he's jazzy.
I know, and honestly, we haven't even introduced why he's jazzy yet, so people are probably
like, why are you guys being so jazzy?
But we'll get to it.
Trust me.
This guy's jazzy as fuck.
Just trust us.
Jazzy and snazzy.
I mean, he's jazzy.
I don't know what snazzy.
But I wanted to say it.
So, the first known victims beginning in the that I almost said 2018 it was not the
beginning in the 1918 attacks were Joseph and Catherine Maggio. This was on May 23rd, 1918.
The location was 4901 Magnolia Street. They were a husband and wife, they were just sleeping in bed.
They lived in an apartment above the grocery store that they owned and
they were Italian Americans.
The bottom panel of the kitchen door was knocked out with a chisel and the door was open upon investigation.
It was found that no one had heard or seen anything of this entrance into the house.
Wait, pause. So the door was open. So I feel like that
supports our evidence that because the door first without trying to well the
reason people were wondering this is because this is kind of an outlier
because a lot of the other ones most of the other ones the door was still locked
when they found it. So people were like well he must have crawled through this but
I don't know. Maybe he's a ghost who knows. So the murderers used Joseph's axe on their heads,
both of their heads.
And what he did was he came in,
he slit both of their throats,
and then used the axe to beat their faces in.
He slicked their throats with the axe.
Yeah, no, he slicked their throats
with a straight razor.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
So was he like a hair stylist?
Probably not. a barber.
Uh, but
Jake and Andrew Maggio were Joseph's brothers. They were living under the same roof like next door.
Wow. They found Catherine Maggio almost entirely decapitated.
Oh, good. That's how hard this guy had to slit her throat.
Holy cow.
Joseph was not as bad, but he still was suffering from a slip throat and had his head beat in.
But she literally had, almost had her head separated from her shoulders with a fucking
straight razor.
And you'll see that people started blaming the brothers and the other people in the house
because they were like, how did you not hear them scream?
But if you think about it, the best way to not have somebody scream is to
slip their throat immediately while they're sleeping. Because if you do it quickly, then
by the time they wake up, it's happened. And when you slip someone's throat, they can't
scream. They can't. So why? No, it's crazy. So if he had done it to one of them, if they're
both lying in bed, boom, he can hit both of them quicker than they can scream.
And then bash their heads in just for good measure.
So there were jewels and money and plain sight
that were not touched.
You should not have trusted in that.
He was clearly not there for robbery.
The intent was clearly murder.
An axe was found on the scene,
and fingerprinting was around, like we said,
but it was not really standard procedure yet.
Police did find bloody clothes from the murderer, and he had clearly changed into a
clean set of clothes before leaving.
Or he left naked.
I mean, who would we say?
Didn't they go all in and say, color to that one?
He did.
He was naked a lot.
He always came panceless.
That was just his jam.
So reportedly near the home on the sidewalk the killer wrote in chalk
Mrs. Maggio is going to sit up tonight just like Mrs. Tony
Who's Mrs. Tony? No idea. She never comes up again
So I have no idea, but it's weird. There's no
Explanation for that at all. No literally people are like I have no idea what that meant
And she's going to sit up tonight like what does that mean? no explanation for that at all? No, literally people are like, I have no idea what that meant. And what is it all about?
She's going to sit up tonight, like what does that mean?
I got it.
I know.
So, this is where things get a little crazy with this thing, because-
Also did you break up?
I'll clean up.
I know, that's the other thing.
So the razor, the straight razor that was used to kill the couple, because they both
died, was found to belong to Andrew Maggio, which is the brother of Doe Submajio.
He was the one who lived, one of the ones who lived next door.
So Andrew had a barber shop on Camp Street.
Was a hair stylist.
His employee, Esteban Torres, told police that Magio had removed that straight razor razor razor That's right razor
Removed the straight razor from his own shop two days prior to the murder and he had said he wanted to have it like fixed
I don't know how to have a fucking straight razor's work if you like drop them and they get like a neck in them
They don't work the same thing. Oh, so that's probably what did it? Look at you, hairstylist. You're right.
Because I read something and said he wanted to have a nick
honed from the blade.
So that must have been it.
It had a nick and he wanted it, like buffed out.
Huh.
Look at you.
Teach me shit.
Because I was like, I don't know what that means.
So again, he had lived in the adjoining apartment.
And he was the one who found them. Two hours after the attacks occurred.
So he says that he went in there because he heard weird groaning noises through the wall.
Which I'm sure he did.
He said the reason he didn't hear any noise related to the attacks was because it happened
in the early morning hours and he was super drunk because he had returned home after a night of
Celebrating because he was joining the Navy. Oh, so he was like I was drunk as fucks
And I didn't hear he's got to go off to the Navy knowing that he was drunk. Exactly. Exactly. That's a bummer
Well in police were like hmm. How did you not hear this intruder? I don't believe you
He became the police's prime suspects. Oh wow.
But he was released because they couldn't poke any holes in his story and it just didn't
make sense.
Like, he was nothing let it up with it.
It seemed a little, sure, it seemed a little convenient that he was around and that he
was only found him and that the razor was his.
But they couldn't connect anything to it.
And then there were people who said they saw a strange man lurking around the residence so and it wasn't and it wasn't him so the next victim was a
grocer named Louis Bessamer and his mistress Annie Harriet Lowe they were
attacked on June 28th 1918 that is my grandma's birth I know I there are so many
weird shit on my birth they I can't. Sorry mom.
This location was reportedly Dorshano and the Harp Streets. I'm gonna butcher
some of these names. So I apologize. Well they're just two names. So when they
were discovered, Louis was really severely injured but Anna was way worse and both
had literally been hacked in the head with an eggs. Some actually suspected a
baker who was making morning deliveries to the store. His name was John Zanca.
He was a baker. He usually came at the same time in the morning to deliver you
know his shit to the store at the same time
So he was the one who found them
He discovered the mixer he knocked on the door and no one responded. He knocked on the door of their grocery store
so
When he entered there where they lived because I think they lived like behind the store or above it
Which is what a lot of them did this like a lot of a lot of people lived above their businesses back then.
So when he went back to where they lived,
he found the bottom panel of their bedroom door
was missing, which is like his hallmark card.
In their bedroom door this time, that's interesting.
Yeah, and I think it's because they maybe he was able to get
into the grocery store somehow and, I don't know.
Oh, stupidity smooth.
So a chisel was used and it was left behind
on the back steps and a bloody axe was found
in the bathroom.
So, peeing on the way out.
Annie loves, so they both lived initially,
but Annie loved only, she lived for another seven weeks
after the attack, which I feel like is like worse.
Like way worse.
Like really?
But, so at first she supposedly said that she encountered
a large white man with a hatchet that attacked them. Okay. Sorry, I was just burping.
But then she randomly changed her story and said, Louie did it. Her husband? Yeah. Well,
her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her or her mister. Yeah, her mister. But police were like, yeah.
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
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How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house?
How did he have his house? How did he have his house? How did he have his house? How did he have his house? How did he have his house? She was like paralyzed in part of her face. So she wanted that fixed and she went under surgery for it
And that's when she died. So they were saying like she was really badly hacked up
There's in the head so I'm assuming they didn't want to take a lot of what you're saying seriously
So that's how that she was just trying to fix her face. I mean, that's one story. I mean she died regardless
from this so
The next victim was Mrs. Edge,
and they don't have a name for,
like I can't find a name, a first name for this woman.
Anyway.
Yeah, this case is kind of funky.
But so what I do have here is Mrs. Edge Schneider.
She was attacked on August 5th, 1918.
She was pregnant.
Oh, yeah.
But so Mrs. Schneider woke in the middle of the
night to a figure looming over her. No, baby. She screamed just as the ax came down
on her face. Oh shit. Yeah, right on her noggin. So her screams during this attack
woke her neighbors and they found her completely unconscious. Her head
severely bashed in and she was missing a ton of teeth.
Oh my god!
From it.
So she was rushed to charity hospital where a lot of these people go, oh my god, I hate teeth stuff.
So upon investigation it was discovered that their ax was missing from their shed, so her ax was missing.
And a week following the attack she gave birth.
And she lived.
Yes.
Where is her husband?
I don't know. That's another thing that's kind of questionable.
They think he was at work.
I think that's what it was.
But she gave birth to a healthy baby, an ax murder baby.
So that's good.
Wow.
This happiness out of that.
Yeah, totally.
Well, was her face okay?
I mean, I don't know.
Why didn't you find out?
Because there's not a lot of info from 1918
about what her, if her face was aesthetically pleasing after that.
Oh, yeah, I thought this was 2011, sorry.
This is 2018.
I also just said 2000.
2000, the leffins.
I said this was 2011.
2011.
Whoa.
This is awesome.
Next victim, Joseph Romano.
Romano. Romano.
August 10th, 1918.
Location, allegedly, taunty and gravier street.
Gravia.
Gravia.
Gravia.
He was an 80-year-old Italian barber.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
So, Joseph Romano's niece's Pauline and Mary Bruno lived with him.
They heard him struggling and discovered him with a
baston head. Why are you telling an avial? I know. So they allegedly saw the
attacker. Like they described him more than anybody else did. They saw the
attacker and they described him as dark, tall, heavy set, wearing a dark suit
in a black slow-chat. What's a a slow chat? I was gonna say that.
I'm thinking probably not a beanie.
I'm thinking it's like what I wore on my cruise.
Essentially, like a slow-chey black hat.
Why would he be wearing like a hat that like that?
I don't, I mean why is he bashing people's heads in?
Are we really questioning what he, his motives for these things?
I think it's probably like a, because in that, that's that's like a the fashion of the time. It's like the
big brim tats. Wow. But I mean I'm gonna look up slow chat and I'll post it on the Instagram
because because when I heard it I was like slow chat. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So And he's wearing a suit. So he's all business.
He's all business, man.
What about being up in?
Unfortunately, Romano died two days after the attack.
He lived through the initial one.
The initial thing.
That's almost worse.
And the worst part is I'm pretty sure,
like people said he was like with it at first,
but then he died, yeah.
This is when shit just started going crazy, obviously,
because after all these attacks,
people were like
New Orleans was on high alert. In August 1918 the New Orleans states newspaper allegedly
Said that armed men are keeping watch over their sleeping families while the police are seeing to solve the mysteries of the ex attacks
Extra police are being put to work daily. It was literally like hysteria sweeping over the city
or police are being put to work daily. It was literally like hysteria sweeping over the city.
Families were literally like dividing people into watches.
Like you watch for this hour, you watch for this.
Like people would have to be awake at all times to keep guard.
Oh, so scary.
Yeah, they would stand guard over their relatives
as they slept, basically.
People walked around with like loaded shotguns.
Like they were just walking around
being like, who's next?
Lissa living in fear.
Yeah.
So on August 11th, the killer was supposedly seen in the neighborhood of Tulane and
Broad, masquerading as a woman, the rumor said.
Interesting.
Yeah, there was a lot of weird rumors that happened around this time.
You can't really separate fact from fiction but it's worth noting. On the same day, August 11th, a man named Al Durand discovered an
accident chisel lying outside his rear door in the early morning hours. His
backdoor had been damaged but had apparently proved to be a little too thick
for the killer to swallow. So can you fucking imagine finding out
that you only survived because you have a thick-ass door.
I would have, if I was anybody that found out about that,
I would have replaced my thin-ass door with a thick-ass door.
I would, seriously, I'd be like, where you get that door?
I would have been like, you got a metal door somewhere?
Give me a door.
Like an iron door?
An iron door.
In 1918.
They did organize like a manhunt after this because they were like we're close.
Like he's around.
They didn't have any success unfortunately.
Obviously.
On August 21st, a man was seen leaping a back fence,
but despite a quickly organized search party, they couldn't get him.
So, I mean, again, these could just be
overactive imaginations or people being paranoid,
but I mean...
It's worth the earnings.
Yeah, and especially the chisel, like the door,
I mean, that was him, obviously.
Yeah, clearly.
So in late August, the rear door of Paolo Bella's
grocery and residence was chiseled through.
No one was home at the time.
Oh my God, can you imagine how he'd put that out?
So he literally chiseled through to get to the house.
That same day, another grocer named Joseph LaBouffe reported that an attempt had been made
to chisel through his rear door in the middle of the night.
He was awakened by it, so he heard that chisel.
He was like, that's a fucking chisel.
And he scared the intruder away.
Wow.
But an axe was found dropped on his steps.
So that dude had his fucking axe ready
and was chiseling through and he scared him away.
The following day, another axe was found
in the yard of a wrecknagle who was also a groucher. And chisel marks were found on his
back door. If I owned a groucher store, I would sell it at this point. I'd also be like, okay,
Axe, man, are you like suddenly, like, are you okay? Are you suddenly having trouble? Because it's like,
he was very successful, like smooth sailing. But the lava sudden, but it's like, dude, maybe like, I don't know, like, you need
to adapt, adapt and overcome. I mean, I'm not telling you to go murder people, but like shit.
So September 15th, 1918, a grocer named Paul Derell found that someone had also attempted to cut
through his rear door and a case of tomatoes that had been resting against the inside
panel of the door had stopped that from happening. So the case of tomatoes made it so he couldn't
cut through the door. Like he was banging into the tomatoes. I need to realize that's so Italian.
In there. That's an Italian way to make pasta sauce.
Like that case of tomatoes that I have in front of my door, stopped me from putting it in front of my door tonight.
So after this everything was pretty chill for a while.
Yeah.
Then this one's a bummer.
This one's a bummer.
No, this is a real bummer.
Okay.
So husband and wife Rose and Charles and their two-year-old daughter Mary Cortamiglia were attacked on March 10th, 1919
in Greta, not Louisiana. So not La New Orleans, but it was just across the river from New Orleans.
It's not far away. So Rose woke to her husband who's an Italian grocer fighting the intruder. Wow. Her husband was badly beaten with an
axe. Rose was holding their two-year-old daughter Mary and was also attacked.
She was literally begging for mercy for the baby and he hit the baby and hit
her. He killed the two-year-old.
Oh my gosh.
And he crushed Rose's skull.
One story says that they were found by a neighbor who
heard their screams.
Another one says they were discovered by a visitor who
came when they were like, got weirded out
that they didn't answer the door.
Like somebody who knew them.
Oh, OK.
Rose.
So Rose and Charles survived, but Mary, the two-year-old died.
Why would you have to be horrible?
Yeah, so at this point, the neighbors, their neighbors were actually suspected of the attack.
Rose actually said it was them.
Oh, shit.
At first.
So, this was 18-year-old Frank Giordano and his father, Lor Londolando Giordano. They were actually, after she said
it was them, they were allegedly sentenced to hang. Oh shit. Yeah. And Frank was 18, his
father was 69. So Charles, Rose's husband, who survived, vehemently denied these screams.
Like said, no, it was not them.
Oh.
And divorced her.
Actually.
She was so mad.
And Rose later admitted that she was falsely accusing them
because of jealousy.
Did they hang out?
No.
They were released.
And the police agreed because they thought
that the ax man was one person.
They weren't thinking it was more.
They also were like, you know, this guy's 69 years old, so I don't think he committed this crime.
And Charles was saying, I fought with him, like it wasn't them.
Yeah, like he said, he only fought one person.
So it was right after this attack that the Axeman wrote a letter to the times...
What is my favorite part?
Pick a Yoon, I think it's picking you I have I
don't know I might be totally just watching. We wrote an opportunity to
be a favor. So let me just quickly before I read this letter I'm gonna return to
the supernatural nonsense really quick. So some people were questioning how
every you know what everyone was do everyone was describing this person, this intruder as a large man, like a big guy, a looming figure.
People were wondering how, again, how he could slip through these panels, Stanford, and take away.
It doesn't make sense.
So, because like I said before, it was discovered that a lot of them were remained locked after you left, so people were like, hmm hmm maybe it's a woman right because obviously a part of
our biology is being able to escape under doors like fucking hamsters right that's done it so many times
and but people were also like maybe it was supernatural so this letter that he wrote to the this paper
that I'm not gonna say the name again because I think I've watched it. Also, his letter's spook tested.
This letter kind of helps fuel the supernatural aspects
of the whole thing again.
Police called this guy a quote,
a bloodthirsty maniac filled with a passion
for human slaughter after this.
Whoa.
So the famous ax man letter,
which is like the, it's like the the crux of this case
Yeah, like everyone knows this letter it arrived to the editor of the times on March 14th
1919 at the time of this letter there had already been five murders since May 1918
That were attributed to the Axeman. Mm-hmm. The Axeman dates the letter hell March 13th 1919.
So fucking angsty. He's like hell. Location hell. So according to the
introduction of the Timespicking and Story in which this letter was reproduced
at the time, the letter quote was in New Orleans, is written in a clear, easily red
hand and is similar in some respects to earlier letters received by the New Orleans PD during
their investigation of the murders.
So that is connected to the other ones that they were getting, apparently earlier than
this, that nobody sees.
So here is the letter.
It's the best. It begins. You're welcome.
A steamed mortal, solid beginning battle. It's steamed mortal. I'm literally going to begin
every single work. You know, this greeting from wherever I'm just going to be like a steamed mortal.
And that's going to, that's how I'm going to greet everybody tomorrow morning. Literally.
All right, so going back to this.
They have never caught me and they never will.
They have never seen me for I am invincible.
Excuse me, invisible.
Even as the ether that surrounds your earth,
I am not a human being, but a spirit,
and a demon from the hottest hell.
I am what you, or liniens, in your foolish police call.
The ax man. But I'm not a boo! what you or Linians in your foolish police call. The Axe Man.
But I, but I, but I, but when I see fit, I shall come and claim other victims.
I alone know whom they shall be.
I shall leave no clue except my bloody acts besmirred with blood and brains of
he whom I have sent below to keep me company.
If you wish, you may tell the police to be careful not to rile me.
Of course, I am a reasonable spirit.
Obviously.
Are you?
I take no offense at the way they have conducted their investigations in the past.
In fact, they have been so utterly stupid as to not only amuse me,
but his satanic majesty, Francis Joseph, etc.
But tell them to be where?
Let them not try to discover what I am. For it
were better that they were never born than to incur the wrath of the axe man. I don't
think there is any need of such a warning, for I feel sure the police will always dodge
me as they have in the past. They are wise and know how to keep away from all harm.
Undoubtedly, your lineans think of me as a most horrible murderer, which I am, but
I could be much worse if I wanted to be.
If I wished, I could pay a visit to your city every night.
At will, I could slay thousands of your best citizens, for I am in close relationship
with the Angel of Death.
Now, to be exact, at 1215, earthly time.
Thank you for the good news. Like, not hell time.
Yeah, not hell time. earthly time. On next Tuesday night, I am going to pass over New Orleans.
In my infinite mercy, I am going to make a little proposition to you people.
Here it is. I am very fond of jazz music. And I swear by all the
devils in the nether regions that every person shall be spared in whose home a jazz band is in
full swing at the time I have just mentioned. If everyone has a jazz band going, well, then so much better for you people.
One thing is certain, and that is that some of you people who do not jazz it on the Tuesday
night, if there be any, will get the axe.
Well, as I am cold and crave the warmth of my native Tartarus, no idea, and it is about
time I leave your earthly home.
I will cease my discourse.
Hoping that thou wilt publish this, that it may go well with thee.
I have been, am and will be, the worst spirit that ever existed.
Either in fact, or realm of fancy.
The ax, man.
Wow, that is the apt trickle. I mean well done because I want more of this.
Like I don't want more murder but if we have to have murder then I want it to be
dramatic and cinematically pleasing. Yeah you know what I mean like I want this shit.
So my favorite thing is jazz it up or get the X. Like what? Jazz it up, bitches.
I would just play jazz music every night.
That's a t-shirt, jazz it up, jazz it or get the X.
That's a t-shirt right there.
I wanna make that t-shirt.
So at this point, the people of New Orleans
decided that it was probably a smart idea to follow
this guy's instructions because like why not?
Yeah.
I mean, he's basically just saying to party it up with some jazz music for a night and
maybe he's just getting everybody to try to cut loose.
I would be like, so good.
You did?
And they're rocking party.
Yeah, it would.
Well, regardless, restaurants and clubs all over town were fucking jammed with people all
night.
They extended hours and jazz bands became hot commodities.
There's a rinsed beef like a buffy up.
Right, I was thinking that too.
Like that, that's so funny.
That's a devil guy.
Yeah, it's like in a once more with feeling.
Yeah.
Which is really funny that you brought that up
because I've been listening to that sound track in the car.
Really?
Yeah.
It's awesome.
My favorite one is he got the mustard
I found it on Spotify again, and I was like hello old friend. That's great. I might look that up. It's amazing
And I miss spike
Love me some spike Spike was like my first love
We're gonna watch Buffy. Yeah, we're gonna do that. Let's watch one's worth, Philly.
Yes, and Hosh.
Yeah, Hosh is a great one.
That's a great one.
So, so jazz bands were hot commodities.
Hot.
So friends, neighbors, all the people in the town
were gathered together in homes,
basically to jazz it up.
Body.
And, you know, when midnight or 1215 when he said
came around, New Orleans was banging with jazz music.
What do you think that turned it off?
I, people, people said they just went on night.
Wow.
Like, they just didn't want to take any chances.
And people were basically like pretending to party
in a carefree manner.
And just despite the doom that was hovering over
the myth they stopped. Joseph DeVia, a well-known, I don't know if it's DeVia or DeVilla, I don't know.
I like DeVia better. A well-known local composer actually created the theme song for the night,
and he titled it The Mysterious Axeman's Jazz. And it became a huge hit.
The, I actually put up the cover for it
on our Instagram last night.
Oh yeah, it shows like a family
that looks terrified like playing jazz
as hard as they can.
Yeah, it's actually terrifying.
I kind of love like weird cultural phenomenons
like that coming out of weird like macabre things like this.
Yeah, I don't know. It's like a weird, because this sounds so bizarre and like it didn't happen.
This almost sounds like an urban legend. There's like a myth that it had this totally.
But knowing that that coming out of it, an actual song and everything,
it's like shows that it happened and that it's real. It's a legend, each voice song. Exactly.
So on, you know, no one was killed on March 19th so you know well done
New Orleans. They pretty much cemented themselves as the apex of party people
a long time ago. So they partied themselves to safety. So good job New Orleans.
You really do. So I'm gonna just quickly take a little detour. Not a total detour but
now that you know that he's a jazz enthusiast, I thought
it might be who of me to just bring you into like, you know, some jazz scene. So these
are some fun jazzy terms that are important for literally no reason at all, but I just
want to tell you the important nonetheless. So Barnburner means a classillator.
Like, like, check out that Barnburner over there.
That's horrible.
I love it.
Barnburner.
Bad means good.
Always.
The bomb came from jazz originally, like something being the bomb.
That's the bomb.
Boogie Man actually referred to a critic of jazz music.
Like, if a jazz, if some critic was like yeah that
jazz sucked they're like that fucking boogie man. I love it. Clams are mistakes
while making music. Example Charlie is really laying down some clams tonight.
Ah, but he didn't. A crumb is someone for whom it is impossible to show respect for.
Example, Tracy is a real crumb.
I see what you did.
I see what I did.
Real crumb.
You know, and another example would be like, Katie is a real crumb.
Oh man.
I'm just, no, I'm just pulling babes out of hat.
Yeah, totally.
No connection to real life.
Gut bucket.
Ew.
Is the type of music associated with heavy drinking?
So it's kind of music-eulistic.
Fuck you.
So you rock it out to gut bucket all the time.
A moldy fig is lovers of old jazz who just can't get down
with the new stuff.
A moldy fig.
So they're like, ah, a cell is a moldy fig.
You can get down with the new stuff. Goldie, so that like, ah, a cell is a moldy thing. You can get down with the new stuff,
skip it about.
A rusty gate is someone who can't play.
So you suck a job.
Like that guy's a rusty gate.
You can't play.
Sucks.
Yeah, I made this up.
And a witch doctor is actually the member of the clergy,
which I thought was kind of funny.
A member of the clergy?
Yeah, like they refer to them as witch doctors.
What the fuck?
So back to the story. Anyways, thank you for that brief underruption. I just wanted to them as witch doctors. So back to the story.
Anyways, thank you for that brief interruption.
I just wanted to learn you some stuff.
Learn you some things.
I wanted to lay down some knowledge.
Some scats, cats.
Some scats, cats.
Um, so I was quiet for a little while.
Shhhh.
Until the August man came back.
August 10th, 1919. A man named Steve Boca stumbled out of his home
on a lesion fields avenue with ax wounds in his skull. No! He was dripping blood, but he managed
to make it to a friend's home about a half block away. This friend, Frank Janusa, treated his wounds
as best as he could and then called for help.
The police searched Boca's house and they found the classic calling cards of the X-Men,
including a chiseled door panel and a bloody ax left lying on the floor.
So Boca actually lived, but he couldn't remember a goddamn thing.
Which is better.
Yeah.
Better for him, not so great for everybody else.
No, but better for him, not so great for everybody else. No, but better for him. Yeah, so September 2nd, a local drugist,
which is a pharmacist back then,
named William Carson, fired several shots at an intruder
who had broken into his home.
Oh, shit.
The intruder left the door, broken door, and acts behind,
but managed to escape.
He didn't get shot.
He got shot.
Slipery.
No, he didn't get shot shot and he left his
ship behind. Like, so he left all the shit that proved he was
the axon behind. Good. So that's good. But he kept doing that
though anyways. Exactly. Cause the next night on September
3rd, 1919, this was reportedly happened at 2128 Second
Street. A girl named Sarah Laman was discovered in her
home by concerned neighbors who
broke in when she wouldn't answer their calls. She was only like 19 years old by
think she had been attacked with an axe while she slept in her locked and
shuttered home. She received a severe head injury and was missing several teeth
from the attack. The intruder had apparently entered the apartment through an open window.
So lock your mother fucking windows dammit. Freshers for dead people man. So he attacked her with a
blunt object. I heard different things could have been a lamp could have been so that she they said
that they do know that she was attacked with an axe, like maybe the flint side of the axe,
but they also said that she looked like she was attacked by something else too.
So who knows? A bloody axe was discovered in the front lawn of the building,
and Laman actually recovered from her injuries yet. Couldn't remember a damn thing,
because he's doing his due diligence
hacking people in the head because they're not gonna remember shit. So on October
27th 1919 on South Scott and Lowa Street. Totally. I don't know. On a street in the world.
The accident. This was his final. His final business. So it's 12th and final?
Yes, so this is a grosser named Mike Pepitone was killed in his bed during the night his wife and six children were asleep in the next room
They weren't touched
So his wife heard a noise and came to the doorway of the bedroom just as a large
heard a noise and came to the doorway of the bedroom just as a large axe-wielding man was beating the shit out of her husband. She said there was possibly two men.
Which is what? Exactly. He had been struck 18 times. Now they said this was
possibly with multiple weapons because who knows if it was two guys. He was so badly
hacked and beaten in the head that it was tough to tell where anything had come from.
She was quoted as saying, every time her husband
quote turned his head, blood came from his head and face,
it simply poured over the bed.
Oh my God.
So the usual clues had been left behind, no health
evidence.
Sheriff Deputy Ben Corcoran was the first at the scene.
$100 in cash was sitting out and wasn't touched. What's interesting is there
was a circus in town near Tulane University and among the things found at the
scene were a bolt and a heavy nut like something used to secure a circus tent.
And it was bloody. So people thought it was weird too. That
his wife didn't hear his screams earlier and just came in as he was like had his
18th hit. She was like, yeah, I'm just a really heavy sleeper. And so are your
six kids. So this is where she gets weird. There's a possible mafia connection to
this one. In 1910, Mike's the victim.
Yeah.
His father, Peter Pepitone, had killed a man named
De Cristina outside of a building that Peter owned
and had once leased to De Cristina.
When De Cristina's lease was up,
Mike Pepitone, the victim,
moved his business and home to that location.
So there were no witnesses to verify this,
but it is rumored that Peter
Peppaton claimed that he fired at D. Christina from Mike's bedroom. So what they think is that
it was kind of like a wrong statement. They should have been getting back in his town. Exactly.
So his father was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to serve five years at the Louisiana
State Penitentiary. So they were thinking this could have been something like that because there was a little
differences in it, but it still could have been related to the X-man, so it's worth noting.
And it is attributed to him, right, in every way, right.
So this is when the horror came to an end.
This was the last murder attributed to the X-man.
He was never seen or heard from again.
Did influenza fuck him up and take him out? That's what I want to know.
I don't know. I feel like it's got to be it. I want it to be something like that.
So, let's go into some theories.
There is. There's really only one theory.
There's only one theory. No, there's really only one theory.
So besides it being the work of an angry racist demon from
another realm, which is totally probable, I'm not counting it out. This this
theory is attributed to crime writer Colin Wilson. He thought so he said more than
a year after the X-man's final appearance in New Orleans, a former New Orleans
man named Joseph Mumfrey was shot to death in Los Angeles.
He was shot to death by a woman named Esther Albanyo, who was later discovered to be the
widow of Mike Pepitone.
Mike Pepitone.
The last victim.
Oh, she shot.
Oh.
She shot this guy. I'm Joseph. I'm
mumfrey. So the police began working because they saw this
little connection to the X-man. So she would feel as angels after us?
Oh, or she went there just to kill him. Oh, shit. They decided they were like,
there's got to be a link here. We gotta look. Some curious coincidences were
revealed during the investigation of this.
Mum-free had once been the leader of a band of blackmailers in New Orleans who had prayed
on Italians.
He had also been, for a separate matter, sent to prison just after the first ax murders
in 1911.
The ones that they sometimes say that could be attributed to this
ax man. In the summer of 1918 he was perolled. So after those ax murders in
1911 he went to prison. He was perolled in 1918 when they began. Yeah, that's
weird. It was so. So immediately after Mike Pepitone's murder, the last murder,
they stopped.
Mumfrey had left New Orleans right after that.
And strangely, the X-man stopped when Mumfrey left.
And then nothing ever happened again after he was shot to death.
I mean, yeah, nothing ever happened after he was shot to death.
Unfortunately, there's no, like, actual evidence to link him.
But there's no actual actual evidence to link him.
There's no actual evidence of what anything.
And a scholar Richard Warner said that the chief suspect in the crimes was Frank
Doc Mumfrey who used the alias Leon Joseph Mumfrey.
Shit.
Also, criminologist Colin and Damon Wilson, who we mentioned up there, hypothesized that
the ax man killed male victims only when they obstructed his attempts to murder women.
Which if you look at it, that seemed to happen a lot.
Right.
Like, there was some women that were killed, but the man would survive.
Right.
So that's interesting, but that's really the only theory they have is the Joseph Mom
Free thing.
And it's been pulled apart a little bit by some people being like, it's hard to find
records of him existing.
It's hard to find this.
But again, that's in alias.
It makes sense.
It's one theory.
So we mentioned Coven, American Horror Story Coven, did use this case because they often
use real cases. The axe man in this case of New Orleans was played by Danny Houston who was
also amazing in 30 days of night. I never saw that. Great movie. Like they did
vampire right in that movie. Like fight me if you disagree. Like I will stand
by that. They're terrifying in that movie moving, he plays like the lead vampire.
And he like, I don't even think he talks ever, but he's just, he's just amazing in it.
So they portray him in American Horror Story as a jazz musician who played saxophone and clubs
around town. Yeah, I love that. They, they do go, they use the letter and they add the fact that
he was lured by a defa- like so they have him use that
letter and say like everybody needs to play jazz and they have it so that on
the night that everybody's playing jazz the Miss Roba Shaw's Academy for
exceptional young ladies which is you know pretty much fucking fucked up hog
warts. Yeah they are like fuck that and they start playing opera in defiance of his
demand and he gets lured into the academy because he's like I'm gonna kill these
bitches for defining me and then I said defining me, defying me and then he's
baited into a room and all the witches in the Covenstabum to death, which it what you're following me that happened. And then his spirit secretly remains confined to the school as a spirit.
So that's it that's fun. And that's the X-man of New Orleans. Skip it about about.
So jazzy. So yeah that's fun. I thought that was a fun jazzy. Snazzy and jazzy.
So yeah, that's fun.
Keep us snazzy.
I thought that was a fun jazzy snazzy little case.
I liked it.
Even though it doesn't really have an, you know,
we can't close it up.
No.
We can't really sew it on up here.
It's hard to tell what could have happened.
Yeah, there's a lot of cool theories, so.
And I get to pick next week.
It's true, so that'll be fun.
Like maybe a 70s murder.
Don't say it.
There's so many 70s murders though.
I feel like the 70s was murder.
Correct.
So I'll find an obscure one.
Yeah, we're gonna hit ones that aren't too well done.
Maybe I'll do a paranormal thing.
Yeah, there you go.
Spook, spook, spook, spook.
Maybe somebody can suggest something.
Wait, or you can think of something.
Maybe I'll just do that. Maybe, maybe suggest something. Yeah, or you can think of something. Maybe I'll just do that.
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Or, you know, maybe someone from another non-earthly realm will tell us what we need to pick.
I'm hoping not.
I mean, it's possible.
I don't want to be contacted by somebody from the other realm.
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Oh yeah. We'll release this one next week and then it might be like a few
yeah a little extra time. We'll release this one this week. This week right? Yeah.
So next week we won't have one. Yeah so next week there will not be an episode.
I'm terribly sorry this bitch has to go on vacation.
Yeah I've never been on a like real vacation for
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We'll do a whole episode.
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Tell us weird shit.
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