Morbid - Episode 93: The LuLuLemon Murder Part 1

Episode Date: September 29, 2019

In this two parter, we will be talking about the brutal murder of Jayna Murray in a Bethesda, Maryland LuLuLemon store. This case is not as it seems and the twists will have you questioning e...verything. Sources: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/jayna-murray-alive-during-322-injuries-prosecutor/2011/11/02/gIQAtVxgfM_blog.html https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woman-convicted-in-lululemon-murder-wants-new-trial/33734/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057040/Brittany-Norwood-guilty-Lululemon-yoga-worker-Jayna-Murrays-murder.html The Yoga Store Murder: The Shocking True Account of the Lululemon Athletica Killing By Dan Morse Sponsors for this episode:  Care/Of! Visit TakeCareOf.com and enter Promo code MORBID for 25% off your first Care/Of personalized vitamin subscription! VistaPrint! Visit VistaPrint.com and enter promo code MORBID for free shipping on your Vistaprint business cards. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:23 of your home. Download the free Angie mobile app today or visit Angie.com. That's ANGI.com. Hey weirdos, my name is Elena, my name is Ash, and this is morbid. I just literally went to say something and my, I just stopped. Ash just like, I think her batteries just swore out and she just like went, woo. I took like a deep breath like I was about to say something and then nothing else came out. And I just stared at her wide,
Starting point is 00:02:16 I'd like, what's happening? Are you okay? You're not gonna know this, but does anybody know the episode of SpongeBob where he's trying to figure out the answer to something? And there's all these little Spongebob's running around his brain like, finance or finance? That's what just happened.
Starting point is 00:02:29 That's how I just felt. It's been a week. All these little ashes running around his house. Just ashes running everywhere going, fine, the answer. So yeah, Ash, she's back. We give her a quick little battery charge. She's here.
Starting point is 00:02:41 She is. And um, yeah. So the first thing I just wanted to quickly talk about was we posted our episode about Jessica Renee Johnson. And I posted the photos from the episode on her Instagram and one photo shows her arm post mortem like in the morgue. It's spooky. It's real spooky. But some very like eagle-eyed listeners pointed out that in the photo underneath her arm like on the floor, you can see someone's wearing a flip-flop. Oh. And so people were like, why the fuck would they be allowed to wear a flip-flop? That's very astute. I just want to point that out. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Snaps at you. Snaps at you for bringing that up, but I have an answer for that. And I figured I'd just bring it up on the episode instead of answering it in the Instagram comments. But so I believe that photo was taken by the family. And what happens when we, at least at our morgue when we have a viewing when a family would, because not every family wants to view after the fact, I'm not trying to do. But some do. And when they do, we set up what's called an anti-room, which is the room between the morgue freezer and the outside of like the morgue hallway. And it's just a room. It's not refrigerated. It's just like what you enter to get into the freezer. That's where we would put the body. That's where we would bring the family members in there so they can have privacy and they can say their goodbyes
Starting point is 00:04:08 and all that. They are allowed to go into that room wearing whatever the hell they want because they're not entering a sterile space. They're not entering the autopsy suite. They're not entering the morg freezer. Nothing's going to drip on them. Nothing's going to, you know, they can wear flip flops if they want. So what I'm assuming happened there is that the family members went to see her, to view her. They were wearing flip flops. They took that picture. Makes sense. So I think that's what probably happened. That makes sense to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:38 So I just wanted to point that out. But good call. So we hope you enjoyed that episode, even though it was Bonkers crazy bananas and had no closure at the end. I just I really don't like when there's no closure. That was a bummer, but hopefully we'll get closure sometime. I hope so. We're hoping. That's really all the business we had to take care of. We already talked about our live shows in the last episode and they're sold out still. Hell yeah. Again, if they open up, we'll let you guys know right away, so you can dive on them if you want. But one thing I just want to say is I keep seeing people say that they're coming from so far away to the show. I saw someone say they were coming from like Washington. The fuck? And I was like, you guys are fucking awesome. And I swear we're gonna make
Starting point is 00:05:19 this awesome because you deserve it. But I can't wait to squeeze every one of you. I'm gonna squeeze the life out of all of you. Like I just love you all. It just, it warmed my soul today. I was like, you beautiful weirdos. So we're so excited, we're getting close. And yeah, as a net, I think we're just gonna dive into our case today. Cause we have a lot to cover.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So we're diving in. But first, I'd like to say the reason why we decided to do this is because I had a thought. And so my salon recently moved locations and the old location was a Lulu lemon store. And I said to my boss, did we sage this place? In case there's bad energy moving forward. And he was like, what the fuck do you think happened at Lululemon that we need to sage the place? You're like, what do I think happened? And I said to him, well sir, one time somebody was murdered in a Lululemon. So shut your mouth. And do you know what?
Starting point is 00:06:14 He just walked away for me because he wasn't interested in my shenanigans. He didn't start staging. No. No. What shocked me? I found the alarming. But somebody was once murdered and attacked in a Lululemon store. It happened.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And we're here to tell you about it. Strap in it's sad. It is. It's really sad. So on Saturday morning, March 11, 2011, Rachel Overtlee, I believe her name is. Okay. Who managed the Bethesda Lulu Lemon store walked a very short distance to the store that she managed and arrived at work shortly before 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:06:55 What she found was that the door was unlocked. That's not good. Already not. That's not good. Very unusual, a lot of cause for concern because when you close the night before, you're supposed to lock up. And Jaina Murray, her coworker, was the one who had closed up the night before. And this was not something that she expected to find after she closed.
Starting point is 00:07:15 She was like, what the hell? What's going on? That's not Jaina. When she walked in, the store was an absolute mess. Things were tossed everywhere. A television was literally shattered on the floor, and it looked like someone had ransacked the store. She looked around, she walked towards the back, and all of a sudden she spotted blood, and she spotted bloody footprints that were on the floor beneath her. At the time she looked down, it was like shit. Then she heard something very low that sounded like a small groan coming from the back.
Starting point is 00:07:49 No, she got the fuck up out of there, which I'm like smart, Rachel. Her Uber was there. Yeah, her Uber was waiting. Yeah. She was about to get that two minute charge. Now when she got out of there, it was real busy outside that morning
Starting point is 00:08:02 because this was a noted shopping block in Bethesda. And there was an Apple store directly next to Lululemon store. It actually shared a wall with them. There was a new iPad coming out. I believe it was the iPad 2. Wow. Taking a trip in the way back. Well, to reonna, like iPad 4,700, I'm pretty sure. Like it's approximately. Yeah. And people obviously were lined up outside the store because that's what happens in any Apple release. So she frantically ran out looking like she just saw a ghost and people were obviously concerned when they saw her. They were like, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:08:40 A guy named Ryan Huff asked her if she needed help and she told him, yes, I do. So he was like, you know what, I'll go back in the store for you and I'll check. What a nice, good Samaritan man. Ryan is, that's above and beyond the call of duty as a fellow human being. Because guess what? I'd probably just look at her and be like, oh, poor thing. Seriously, I'd be like, you okay?
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Starting point is 00:11:08 You can listen ad-free on the Amazon music or Wonder App. He said he saw all the craziness that he had seen, like all the, you know, the TV, everything. And as he walked further into the back, there were a ton of bloody footprints concentrated on the, what the back hall of the store. And there was tons of blood. Random items scattered and broken everywhere, broken glass. There was blood spattered literally all over the walls and spattered as high as six feet up on the walls. That's fucking wild.
Starting point is 00:11:38 That's bonkers. That's bonkers. It was an absolute mess. And he saw what he thought was a man on the ground in a pool of blood. And he also spotted a woman in a bathroom lying on her back on the floor. She was sliced on her hands, arms, chest, and she had a huge long cut along her forehead. And she was also bound by zip ties on her arms and legs. And there was a large slice that had been made in the crotch of her black yoga pants. Exposing her genitals. Oh God. Yes. Her arms are also above her head just to point that out.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So he runs back outside and he's like, uh, so he tells Rachel, call 911 right now. Some shit has gone down. Shit has gone a rye in there. And he was like, so,, so there's what I assume is a dead man inside there. And a very injured girl who he assumed had been sexually assaulted because of the rip in her pants. Right. So Montgomery County police officer, Kristen Knuth, I believe her name is, was the first one on the scene. And she was absolutely shocked at the carnage that she walked into. I mean, yeah, six foot high blood things. Yeah, no things.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Blood things. No, not there for six foot high blood things. I hate six foot tall blood things. When the officer made her way to the back where all the craziness was concentrated, she found not a man, but the body of Jane Emory. Oh no. She was lying face down in a pool of blood and she was legitimately covered in red from head to toe. So fucked up. Her head was
Starting point is 00:13:13 bashed and battered and there was a toolbox that looked like it had fallen across her back in shoulders, like just on her back. Like the woman bound in the bathroom, the crotch in back of her yoga pants and underwear had also been slid open. Oh no. She had no pulse. Oh. So she was pronounced dead. Jaina Murray was 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Oh my god, that's so young. I know. And she had just turned 30 like a couple of weeks ago. Oh my god. She was about 5'5", very athleticly built. She had blonde hair and what everyone whoever knew her described as a megawatt smile. Looking at pictures, this is easily confirmed. She does. She has a great smile. Yeah. She was beautiful. She appears vibrant and happy in like
Starting point is 00:13:57 every picture you see of her. Now she was known as an overachiever, a straight-a student, and a huge adventurer who loved to do risky things like bungee jump, which she did for her 30th birthday. Not so fun. And Skydive, which she had already done previously as well. Hell yeah. And she like do kayaking, rock climbing, anything crazy you think of that you're like holy shit.
Starting point is 00:14:19 She was doing that. That's nuts. She was doing it. Kayaking is fucking wild. Like white water rafting, I mean, like kayaking on like, kayaking in rock climbing. Kayaking.
Starting point is 00:14:31 What the fuck? Well rock climbing is dangerous. Yeah, rock climbing is like excuse me. I'm picturing like those like the fun rock. Yeah, like legit rock climbing out of rocks. Like outdoor rocks. Yeah, that's fucked up. Yeah, that's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:14:43 You won't catch me doing that. You won't catch me out of rock climbing in place either, facility, whatever. You're, that's fucked up. Yeah, that's fucked up. You won't catch me doing that. You won't catch me at a rock club and play see their facility, whatever. You're like, let's be real. Let's be honest, I'm at Starbucks. So basically she seems like one of those people who just like took life by the balls and did everything she could.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Who knows? Like she just looks like she was like, I'm gonna do that. Like she just did everything. Fuck yeah, get it girl. Like those people are awesome to me. Yeah. Because there's so many things that I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. Like she just did everything. Fuck yeah, get it girl. Like those people are awesome to me. Yeah. Cause there's so many things that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:15:07 I'm not gonna do that. You say that, but like you're also one of those people. Like you wake up on morning and you're like, I'm gonna do this and then you do it. And I'm like, but it's usually not something that like risks my life. That's the thing that I think. You have three kids.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah, that does risk my, you know what? Yeah, I'm pretty impressive. You're right. Also, you wanted to be a police officer. I did. I did. I passed the police exam and the physical test everybody just putting that out there. All of a lead as accomplishments make it look like I've had no a couple of shots. Oh, you wanted to be a hairstylist and you are a damn hairstylist. That's true. You set that shit out there. It's a little bit of a... You have to talk to people on the true. You set that shit out there and you did it. You have to talk to people on the reg. Oh, I can't do that to fucking my hair.
Starting point is 00:15:48 That's risky right there. Just kidding. Just kidding. This is risky right there. That's real risky. So, Jaina had spent a semester at sea, which I didn't even know was a real thing. She traveled to every single continent
Starting point is 00:16:01 except for Antarctica. And she died not having been able to get that one. No, no, don't tell me that. She was also a known goofball who could make you laugh at your hardest moments. She was super athletic. She did shot put in discus in high school, set a ton of records. She did gymnastics and she was also a dancer, apparently excelling at tap dance. So much so that she had actually planned to become a Broadway dancer. Oh my god. But changed lanes at the last second and decided to pursue business and communications at George Washington University. She then went on to pursue two graduate degrees.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Wow. At Johns Hopkins University, at the time of her absolutely brutal murder, she was only 10 weeks shy of earning her degrees. Oh my god. Yeah. She also claimed to have, she claimed herself to have no sense of style. That's funny. Like she was like, I don't know how to dress. And she worked at Lulu Lemon. Yeah, like she, well, she got to shit. Exactly. And I think that, but she liked it more for like the lifestyle. Yeah. Of course. You know, like that it was into healthy, like the real mind of my yoga pants. You know, it's just cute. Like it's off-laser.
Starting point is 00:17:10 But she seems like she's one of those girls who, like, it doesn't matter what she's wearing because she's so charismatic and lovely that it's just like you could wear a potato sack and you're still like the first thing that everybody looks at in the room. So she left behind her two very devoted parents, two brothers and a boyfriend named Frazier,
Starting point is 00:17:29 who lived in Seattle and who was, they were like head over heels in love. Frazier. And they were planning on like, spending their lives together. They also knew each other since seventh grade. No, yeah. What is love?
Starting point is 00:17:41 Well, I was just about to sing that song. I know, I just started to sing it too. Baby, though. But like, that is love. That is love? I was just about to sing that song. I know. I just started to sing it too. But like that is love. That is love. So now that we know Jaina, who was the woman lying alive but brutally injured on the bathroom floor? That was 28 year old Brittany Norwood.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Brittany was petite but very strong. She had four brothers and four sisters. Holy shit. Like, whoa. To a lot of kids. Yeah. That's a lot, a lot of kids. She grew up in a very happy and tight family. She was a star athlete in high school and college. She was also an amazing student. She played soccer at Stony Brook University on Long Island, and she was apparently like the star of the team. She was also a self-proclaimed foodie who enjoyed fancy food. Love that. And she was very concerned with like looking good, being in shape, having all the priciest
Starting point is 00:18:35 things, the trendiest things. She had like a very high class lifestyle for working at a little level store. And a lot of people around her were like, I just didn't know how she like afforded all this, this like persona. She was putting out when she made like $12 an hour at Lululemon. But like, you know, get before this whole ordeal, she was planning, she was actually planning to leave Lululemon. And she was going to switch careers to become a personal trainer at Equinox. A friend of hers had just gotten a job there as a personal trainer and her friend was like,
Starting point is 00:19:08 yo, come get a job here, I'm making really good money. I was gonna say Equinox, you probably do. Yeah. So she was actually, she had to interview a couple of days before this whole thing and they'd actually asked her back for a second interview. So immediately upon arriving at the scene, police sent Brittany right to the hospital because she was in rough shape.
Starting point is 00:19:28 In a cop was sent with her to get her story because you want to get that story right away. Right. Fresh out the date. Fresh out the gate. The officer who spoke to her was officer Diana Mackie and this is what Brittany told her happened. She said she and Jaina, who was the manager of the Louis Levin store, had closed up the store and we're leaving the night before. This was sometime around 9.45 p.m. Brittany realized once they had gone there's like separate ways. I think Brittany was going to be taking public transit and Jaina was just going to her car. Brittany was like shit, I forgot my wallet at the store. And she called Jaina and was like,
Starting point is 00:20:05 hey, can you let me back in? Cause she had the keys. So she said the main reason she needed that wallet was because she was taking the public transit. And she needed her metro card to get home. So they went back in, they searched, I think she said for like 10, 15 minutes. And they couldn't find the wallet anywhere. So Jaina, she said Jaina actually offered her her own Metricard to use. Yeah. So now they're leaving. They're like, okay, cool. As they're leaving, two men show up at a fucking nowhere. They bust in the front door. They head to their head to toe and black and wearing black masks to disguise their faces. She said one was really tall and one was short. And by their voices,
Starting point is 00:20:45 they seemed to be white men. Okay. She said one of the men punched Jaina in the head. Jesus. And then the other dragged Brittany back somewhere by her hair. Ooh. And just started cutting her all over. Because she had like a ton of cuts all over her. Very strange. While this is all happening, they're screaming shit at them, like these men are screaming shit at them, calling them whores, calling Brittany the N word, like repeatedly. Then the man who is assaulting Brittany raped her on the bathroom floor while using horrific racial slurs over and over again. I mean, I'm not going to repeat them here. But I actually used for this episode, one of my main sources was a book about this case that you should go read if you really want like full. I mean, there's so much detail in this book that we did not include in here.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It's called Murder in the Yoga Store and it's by Peter Ross Range. You can get an ebook on Amazon or you can order the actual book, but it's great. In the book, he has all of the actual quotes that Brittany said that these men said to her. Oh no. And they're rough. So if you want way more detail, definitely go read that book. It's great. So, um, so yeah, so this man apparently raped Brittany, calling her awful racial slurs. And then she said he grabbed a wooden clothes hanger and repeatedly raped her with it as well. Huh, yeah. He then made her open the cash registers and safes so they could steal the money. And during all this, Brittany said she heard just like a nightmare going on with Jaina. They said she was, she said she was screaming bloody murder.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And she could see in here that the man was literally just repeatedly beating her. Oh my God. And she said, I mean, she said it was like screaming, screaming, screaming, fighting, fighting, fighting. And then it just started slowly fainting, like fading out. And she said she could see him like beating her in the hallway and he just kept doing
Starting point is 00:22:45 it. She was like, I don't know how long he did it for, but it was horrific. How do you like become normal again? No, you don't. You don't. And after that, they threw Brittany in the bathroom and zip tied her arms and legs and then just left her where she blacked out on the floor until police came in the next morning. Now Brittany was sobbing while telling this to the detective. It was literally like, inconsolable. They couldn't even, they said they couldn't even understand her at times. She was just like shaking, like clearly she was totally
Starting point is 00:23:16 trying to shut us. She was tore up. Yeah. And she kept saying there was so much blood, so much blood. And she kept saying so much more blood. I've never seen that much blood in my life. Like she seemed incredulous. And she said she tried to help Jane that but they wouldn't let her. She was like, she kept saying I tried to help her. I tried to help her. And she then apparently said the phrase, she was so innocent. And she also kept saying that it was her fault for forgetting her wallet. She was like, this is my fault. This happened to me,
Starting point is 00:23:45 which I can't imagine feeling that way. That all of a sudden, you're like, if I didn't forget my wallet, this literally would have happened. She also had no idea that Jane was dead. And she said she, and the police said she kept asking like, is my friend okay? How's my friend doing? Oh no. Meanwhile, an optopsy of Janeho was done at the Maryland Medical Examiner's office by Dr. Mary Ripple. Now this is where she gets crazy. This is some graphic shit.
Starting point is 00:24:13 So this forensic pathologist said that Janeho was assaulted with literally hundreds of different wounds inflicted by several different weapons. Yeah. 232 blunt force injuries to her body. 99 sharp force injuries to her body, more than 100 wounds to her head alone,
Starting point is 00:24:35 which was cracked in eight places. Oh my God. And they said her face was just demolished, completely demolished. There were also 37 injuries to the back of her head and one three and a half inch deep knife wound to the back of her head, low near her neck, that had penetrated directly into the cerebellum
Starting point is 00:24:56 of her brain and her spinal cord was severed. Oh my God. This was labeled as the fatal blow. Total 331 separate injuries. Whoa. Now that is not counting the ones that were overlapping each other that they couldn't count. 300. Those are 331, they could be one injuries.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah, distinct ones that they could see. 105 of those were defensive wounds to her hands and forearms. There's no way, like a stranger did this. No. This is so, these two dudes are not strangers. This is anger. And Ripple said that she had never seen that many defensive wounds on one person ever. And this is a forensic pathologist who has done over 3,000 autopsies. That must have been jarring. Yeah. And she said,
Starting point is 00:25:40 Jaina was alive for almost all of this struggle and she fought hard. She said it must have been excruciating and brutal. Yeah. Now when I say alive for almost all of it, I mean she was alive and felt 330 of those wounds and didn't die until the knife was stabbed in her brain. Oh my God. They knew that this was the final one that stabbed into her brain because all the other wounds blood, which means her heart had to be pumping, which means she was alive.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Oh my god. Yeah. Now the weapons, the weapons that they found that were used were at least five different weapons and possibly up to 10. What they know was used on her was a hammer, a two different kind of box cutters, a wrench, some metal thing that's used to hold up mannequins, a big serrated knife, a metal rod that like I think was used to get clothing off of the, you know, that long thing, a razor and a rope was found around her neck. What the actual, yeah, fuck. Yep. Now the two detectives on the case were Jim Drewry and Demetri Roovin.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Immediately a tip line was set up and they received a ton of tips, but the town of Bethesda was literally going insane with fear. Yeah. So because the Apple Store was like right next door, the police checked the security cameras from the Apple Store, and on the security cameras, they see two men walking quickly away from the scene right around the time of the crime.
Starting point is 00:27:10 So they're like, this is it. That's our deal. Yes. And I'm pretty sure they said one was taller and one was shorter. Oh yeah, I think so. And that's exactly what they were looking for. And at the same time, it's like coincidence. No, I think not.
Starting point is 00:27:24 So they were unable to confirm based on like where the camera was placed. If the guys definitely came from the Lula lemon store, but because they matched Britney's description and the timeline fit, they became the prime suspects makes sense. So like a lady said, this hit the media and people were losing their shit. Like they want to answer as they wanted this to be laid to rest. Like they wanted to know what the fuck was going on what the fuck and not have these guys just like roaming around their town like
Starting point is 00:27:49 this isn't like somebody came in like shit like not that it's not awful if you get shot but like came in like shot someone this is different this is like brutal insane so detective Dimitri Rubin started to stake out the Lou Lemonstore waiting to see if these two guys were gonna show up again and they We heard that each of you, and we heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you
Starting point is 00:28:10 heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you
Starting point is 00:28:18 heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you heard that each of you and we were just walking home. Their alibi checks out and now we're back to square one. And it makes sense that they were wearing all black
Starting point is 00:28:27 because a lot of times that restaurant is working at a restaurant. Usually wear all black, especially as like a bus boy. Yeah, that sounded good too. And one, it's like perfect. Like one was taller, one was shorter. Yeah. She also mentioned that one of them had a backpack and one of these guys had a backpack. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:28:43 So what a cool like what a coincidence. That's crazy. So then they get this other tip, police, that a homeless man named Keith Lockett, who's known to be pretty violent, he hangs out at this one specific bar every night, except the night of the murder. So while questioning people about Keith, the detective also learned that Keith was hanging out with another guy the night of the murder. And they're hopeful about this because a lot of the weird puzzle pieces kind of fit together. The detectives find out that Keith has checked in to a hospital nearby. He's bloody, he's beaten, and he's so out of it, but they go in to check on him. But he's not the guy. His clothes don't have like that much blood on them at all.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And he's just babbling about a fight that he got into with a different homeless man. He's super incoherent. And the detectives know that this guy like didn't have the capacity to carry this case out or this crime out because it was so like involved elaborate. And so they probably required a shit ton of energy to do this. Right, and this is just like some babbling. Yeah, it's like this doesn't work. So now that all those leads flopped, which bummer, which how many coincidences, by the way,
Starting point is 00:29:55 the fact that two people were walking by right around the time and it's a taller guy, a shorter guy and one with a backpap, all in black, and they had ski hats on. Yeah, they couldn't see their faces, but it looked like potentially they had ski masks. That they could have pulled it on their face. Right, it's so nuts. So now they started looking into the fact
Starting point is 00:30:13 that the Apple sales people were definitely still there at the murder time. They're not looking at them as suspects, but they're like, what did they hear? What did they hear? Because they found out, because remember, the iPad 2 had come out. It was a big day for Apple.
Starting point is 00:30:26 So those sales people are probably there still accounting sales and everything. So they're late. Well, what they found out was pretty disturbing and terrible. And they came across surveillance footage to confirm it. So during the murder, there were a couple of employees in the store. Jane serves, I don't know how to say her name, SBRZO.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Svres, Svres, no. The store manager Ricardo Rios was also there, and I think there was also the West Security Guard, but he doesn't really have anything to do with it. These people heard the whole struggle. What? They're walls, like I said, share with Blue Lemon, and they all said they heard a craziness going on over there, but they ignored it.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And the video surveillance shows them all listening at the wall. And then just ignoring it. So what's worse is according to an article in WJLA ABC7, Jane, the employee, said she heard some thuds and grunting and said, quote, it sounded like something heavy was being hit or dragged. And then, quote, some thudding, some grunting, some kind of high-pitched squealing, yelping, a female voice like hysterical sounds. And you didn't think to call the boys. They did nothing. So she went and got Ricardo, the manager, and he listened and said, he heard agonized
Starting point is 00:31:48 breathing like when you can't breathe. And then one forced exhale. And then he was like, I'm going to go home. And he's like, that's probably fine. So Jane said that they heard a woman say before like this like breathing happened and everything. She heard a woman say, talk to me. Don't do this, talk to me. What's going on? Oh my God. So eventually they heard the same what she thinks is the same woman say, God help me, please help me. Oh, now then they heard panting sounds. Now Ricardo, when they asked him about this like, what the fuck you dumb
Starting point is 00:32:23 asses, why would you not call 911? How do you feel okay about yourself as a human being ever? You didn't call 911 and you're not like sending, you have security at your store. Right. Like send them over there. That's what they fucking do.
Starting point is 00:32:35 They're security. Right. So Ricardo said he figured it was just, quote, just drama between the women at that store. You think that they're like beating the shit out of each other? That's, I'm like, so did you think it was like a cage, like death match between two people who are just having an argument, like two girls just having an argument, like, that they're like in the octagon in there and they're like, they definitely did a different thing.
Starting point is 00:32:58 He was just like, auto-organ involved. They did nothing. It's a five standard effect. It is the kiddie genoves thing. It's a five standard effect. It is the kid it's the kitty Genovese thing. Yeah, it's nuts If you fucking see something or hear something say something man, you don't have to get involved Don't you don't get yourself in anything like that but call name on one What's the worst that can happen? That's what 911 is there for if the worst that can happen is that 911 comes and no Shits going down and you feel stupid. That's it
Starting point is 00:33:26 And guess what you probably won't even have to know about it It's actually going down. So just don't just call so those dumbasses didn't do anything but forensics found something new Uh, they found a pair of large men's sneakers size 14 Like hidden on a shelf in the store. Mm-hmm. They were spattered in blood, but the souls were clean. And when they compared them to the men's shoe prints found in all that blood, it was a perfect match. Ding, ding, ding. This is weird.
Starting point is 00:33:54 So police were stumped. And they're like, what? Like why would the killer leave his fucking juice? Yeah, like what shoes was he wearing? Like what's going on here? Well, that's why they were so hopeful about Keith too, because they really owe some homeless to do that carries a shoes.
Starting point is 00:34:08 That must have been it. Yeah, right. So the lead detective spoke to Brittany again, because we need to figure this out. And it was when she had gone home, only a day after the attack she went home, because all of her wounds were what was referred to by the doctor each time as very superficial.
Starting point is 00:34:27 She only had stitches in the gash on her forehead and one gash that was in the webbing between her thumb and a pointer finger and everything else was like just skin deep, right, which was odd. So when they talked to her again, she brought up a few more details that she hadn't said before. And she said at one point, the men pushed her down on top of Jane's body. And they told her that the only reason she wasn't in the same state as Janea was that she was, quote, more fun to fuck. Ew. Which gross. That's disgusting. They said again, she was inconsolable telling them the story again. And she didn't change anything else. They was still consistent. When they brought up the shoes,
Starting point is 00:35:10 Brittany said those shoes were the store shoes. Those were Lululemon shoes. They had a few men's items like shoes where they would like use them for like alterations, I guess. Immediately the detectives were like, that's weird. Why did they match the footprints then? Like, what, like the killer just decided to put those shoes on
Starting point is 00:35:28 and the prints around? It's like, wait a second. So here are the weird things that just started bothering, especially Detective Rooven, who was the one who was really starting to question what actually happened here. He says, so what bothered him was the assailants didn't bring weapons with them, which is weird. They use things in the store.
Starting point is 00:35:46 That's weird. Even the zip ties used on Brittany were on a shelf. Right. And in the book, I read either in the book or in one of the articles I read about this. Detective Rubin was saying like, so this, this, like, this is pandemonium. It's just like nightmare situation of just rage and pandemonium. It's this like nightmare situation of just rage and blood and awfulness. And these guys are like, huh, I wonder if there's zip ties here. Yeah, and just like looked for them. It just doesn't make any sense. Then the injuries, like I said, janeas were beyond way overkill. Right. And britney's were very superficial. That's weird. And then the shoes, the footprints never went outside the store. So there's bloody footprints all in the store. They never left the store. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:31 So what happened? And then what the hell were the killers wearing if the shoe, like if the shoes on the shelf were the ones that left the marks on the, like, right. None of this is making sense, but it's all little things that he can't really grab onto yet. So in an oxygen special about this case, Ruben said the description of these men
Starting point is 00:36:50 was also bothering him. I watched that. He said, quote, the way Brittany's describing these two guys, they're racist, they're rapists, they're robbers, they're murderers, it's like the worst human being that you could possibly describe, right? And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:37:05 It's like when she was saying these things, you're like, holy shit. Like people like this people running around. And there's two of them. Like there's two fucking dudes that are this awful of like, whoa. And it was then that Ruben thought, I think Brittany's lying about what happened. And he started thinking that she might even be the killer. So another officer had found, had just found Jane is missing car. Because initially, she, I think Brittany had mentioned that she parked in front of the store when they went back to run in
Starting point is 00:37:35 and get the wallet. And so it should have been in front of the store and it wasn't. Right. They found the, the car three blocks away in some random lot, which is very bizarre. They also, when they looked into it, they found blood smears all over the inside. It was on the wheel, the steering wheel, the handles, there's like a lulu lemon hat with blood in it. Yes. Well, the DNA analysis said that that blood was Britney's in Janus. There was also the hat that you're talking about in the back seat. It was a Lulu Lemon hat.
Starting point is 00:38:09 They did DNA analysis on the brim of like the head, the part that like touches your forehead and it was Britney's hat. Mm-hmm. So they ended up bringing Britney back in to talk. They said they wanted to catch her in like smaller lives. So they said that's how they start seeing that she's probably lying about more things because why is she going to lie
Starting point is 00:38:31 about little things if she doesn't need to. So they immediately asked her, do you know what Janice Carr looks like? And she was like, yeah, but she was very like, oh, I've only seen it once. very like, oh, I've only seen it once. Mm-hmm. Bop-a-bop. And so then they said, you know, have you ever been in Jane's car? Has she ever like given you a ride or anything? And Brittany said, no, I've never been in her car.
Starting point is 00:38:55 She's never given me a ride. I've never been in that car. So we were blood in her car. Immediately, they were like, well, that's our first lie. And why would she lie about that? Right. You would have no reason to lie about that. Like,. And why would she lie about that? Right. You would have no reason to lie about that.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Like, there's no reason to lie about that because they're like, well, we have your blood and your hats in the car. So you were in the car. So we're going to leave you right there. Bye. That's right. This is a two-parter, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Hey! We're going to leave you there because there is a whole lot more to this case that we are gonna bring to you in the beginning of next week. So don't worry, you don't have to wait long. You ain't even ready for it. But you don't have to wait long only a few days. Yeah, that's fine. And just wait guys, it gets Kuku nuts man because yeah, shit is happening here. It's going down. Because it kind of seems like the detectives have Brittany backed into a corner right now.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Who knows what will happen. Don't Google it and ruin it for yourself. Yeah, no spoilers. Don't do it. Just wait for us. It'll be fun. It's great. So that is part one of the Lululemon murder.
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