Morbid - Episode 95: The Senseless Murder of Rebecca Schaeffer Mini Morbid

Episode Date: October 7, 2019

In this Ash-tastic Mini Morbid, we discuss the truly senseless and tragic murder of actress Rebecca Schaeffer. On July 18, 1989 Robert Bardo stalked and eventually ended the life of a star that was truly on the rise. Although no one else is to blame for his decent into homicidal madness, his mental health and the lack of help he received for it seemed to play a big role in this horrific crime. Take a look at our sponsor for this episode! Visit VistaPrint.com and enter code MORBID for free shipping on any business cards, any style and any quantity.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Jim, rule, please. It's ashtastic. Oh, sis. Oh, we thought it was Ash Center, but it's actually Ash Tastic. And on July 18th, whoa, Rebecca Schaefer was waiting for the script of the Godfather 3 to be delivered to her home in West Hollywood. Oh, no. Also, it was 1989, didn't tell you that. You didn't.

But now you did. So the Godfather role was huge. Like, even just to be, did. So the Godfather role was huge. Like, even just to be, it was for the Godfather 3. Even just to be asked to audition for this part, it was like a huge deal. Yeah. Uh, Winona Ryder got asked. Oh, damn. I want to say like Madonna maybe got asked likely. Could be wrong. She was in fucking movies and shit. You know, I couldn't remember. She was a Vita. If she was in movies. And then I said to myself, a League of Therough now. Oh, yeah, there you go. And she was a Vita.

She was the movie of Vita. Oh, yeah. Well, she was Meg. Meg. Yeah, Meg. Meg. Meg. All the way. Meg. All the way. May. That was her dirt and the skirt. Okay. So really going off on the tent. It was definitely but done. Yeah. So Madonna was asked. Winona Ryder was asked and Rebecca Schaefer was asked. So she was waiting to get this script delivered that morning. Damn. Yeah. A few years earlier, Rebecca Schaefer had moved to California after living in New York for a little while. and that's where she started out her acting career. She was on shows like One Life to Live, which I've never seen in my sister Sam,

which I wanna watch, because I watched some previews, and I was like, that looks right at my alley. Really? Yeah, it's just like so fun. It's very facts of life-y. Oh, okay. That makes sense. Facts of life is like the reason it got canceled, so.

Oh, well, Fetchy subject. Definitely. Yeah. Rebecca was super, super talented and like from a young age, she started acting when she was like 16. And everybody that acted with her said that she was like a natural and like, what happened? She had a presence.

Yeah, exactly. And a lot of people said she was well beyond her years. When she began getting fan mail, her friends that she worked with were concerned that she, because she would write people back and they were like, that's really nice that you're doing that. Yeah.

But you're kind of setting yourself up for like always doing that. And if you always do that, people might get a little attached. And especially with like celebrities, like actresses and stuff, I feel like, yeah. People get super into it. And it's like if she's writing back, they're gonna feel like theyes and stuff. I feel like yeah. People get super into it. And it's like

if she's writing back, they're going to feel like they are owed something. You know, like they're going to feel like kind of too much of a connection. Like they can overstep. Yeah. Don't don't. Exactly. So they urged her to please like maybe stop doing that. Yeah. So much step back. And they also said, please never, ever, ever put your real name on your mailbox. Oh, yeah. Which I, I got a lot of my information from a 2020 special. So that's like where I got that. But when the woman said that, I was like, oh, shit, that's such a point of that. Yeah. Yeah. 20 ways. One fan in particular became super obsessed with Rebecca. His name was Robert Bardo.

He grew up in Arizona and he was the youngest of seven kids, which was a lot of children. He apparently... One might say too many. It's me. I said too many. It's me, I said it. Hi. What's up?

He was, yeah. And he had suffered a lot of physical and mental abuse, which is one of his teacher said that he was, quote, a time bomb on the verge of exploding. Oh, yeah, that's not good. His teachers would get like threatening letters from him and stuff like that. Like he from a young age showed a lot of signs of not good. And it sounds like nobody took these signs seriously. And I guess not.

That's always the story here. Well, he had been hospitalized more than once and definitely struggled with mental health issues. So 1986 was when his obsession with Rebecca began. He saw her on the TV show, My Sister Sam, where she played Pam Dobber's little sister, Patty. Oh, okay. And he decided to write her a letter.

And when she responded, she said that his was one of the nicest that she had ever received. Oh. Which she literally just seemed like she was the sweetest. So it's like a genuine human. Like a pure soul. And so, but he took that a little too, like, oh, okay, so we're destined to be together.

Yeah. So he decided to go to California to try to meet her. Which is so scary that someone can like make that jump. Like, you know what I mean? Like just go from, well, you're just so out of touch with reality. Well, that's, it's like so sad. And it's also fucking terrifying.

It's terrifyingly sad. That's what it, and it's like, so you get, it's like you can't just be happy having this letter connection with her, like cool. Just feel like you wrote me back. It's all from the cheer up back and then go, it's like, um, Stan. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like them and them song, yeah. It really is. It's exactly that. It's really sad. So he did go to California to meet her and went to, I think it was Warner Brothers where my

sister Sam was filmed. And he showed up with a teddy bear and flowers on set. Oh my God, that's really sad. It is really sad. That's actually really sad. And when he arrived at the gate where security was, they were like, no, like, you can't. It was like, I want to meet Rebecca and they were like, well, who are like a lot of people do.

Yeah. And he got like super, super agitated and like pissed off. And then I think one security guard was like, you know, man, like I'm sorry, like where you stay in, like I don't want you to have to lug that teddy bear back on the bus and like gave him a ride back to where he was calling. So they weren't like dickheads. Yeah, they were trying to be like, sorry, we understand.

Like, you know, they were actually pretty nice. Well, I feel like most 10 times like like people aren't like, they would have like get the fuck out of here. You weirdo. Yeah, like exactly. So he came back again about a month later, apparently with a knife. This time, that's different from a teddy bear, which is, yep, big leaps and bounds. Very different. But again, he wasn't led into the studio. Well, that's good. Yeah, That time, it's very good. So when he got home, though, he was really fucking pissed off that he was unable to meet her.

And he started to become more and more obsessed with the idea that they were either together or like destined to be together. So Rebecca started getting more acting opportunity. She was starting to appear and like made for TV movies and like a bunch of different stuff. She was starting to appear in like made for TV movies and like a bunch of different stuff. She was gonna be like huge and that really sucks. Oh, she was, yeah. Like she probably would have gone the Godfather role. She was on the trajectory to be like this great actress

and I'm like, she was, she was really up and coming. Yeah. And she did this movie, class struggle in Beverly Hills. And in the movie, Class Struggle and Beverly Hills. And in the movie, there's like a love scene with her co-star. When Robert saw that, he lost his noodle. Oh, no.

Yeah. Oh, I didn't even think of that. Yeah, because he like, he would feel like she's his, like he would feel jealous. Well, exactly. And he felt well, exactly. Like I felt very jealous when Claire Danes made out with Leonardo Caprio and Romeo and Juliet, me too, but that's as far as it was. But I didn't want to kill her. No, I didn't. I did not. Leo could have been me. I literally was like, but I mean, I'm angry at Claire James, but I'll get over it. Yeah, exactly. Well, Robert didn't feel that way.

He felt like she was supposed to say of her innocence for him, which is, oh, that takes a whole different level. Yep. That's not just like man, she, like, you're hot. And I'm sad that you're making it with that other person. Yeah. That's a whole different thing. And he said something along the lines of like, she had become like another Hollywood whore,

which is like, that's horrible. I don't like that. I just said that and I didn't like it. It doesn't feel good. No. I don't often ever say that word. No, I never say that. I love that I drop the word cunt like it's nothing.

Yeah, but then you say, I can't say it for. Yeah, for some reason, yeah, some reason like cunt feels less harsh than it does. I think it's because I was raised on a Irish pub. Anyways, anyways, back to the show. Yeah, this is dark and it's fucked up. So he decided he was going to meet Rebecca once and for all. But this time it was going to be a different idea than what he had before.

Oh, no. So in the days leading up to July 18th, Bartow was planning and plotting for Rebecca's murder. God, I can't believe it went that far that fast. Well, and it was just like your typical, if I can't have you, the nobody else is going to kind of. Of so scary. He went to buy a gun and the man in the store wouldn't

sell him one because he like he actually pulled up his record and it showed that he had struggled with mental health. Yeah. And he even went as far as hanging his photo in the gun store. So like nobody else would sell him. Wow. But Robert convinced his brother to buy the gun for him, telling him that he just wanted it for target practice. And he promised that he wouldn't he wouldn't use the gun unless he was with his brother. Oh no. Um, but obviously he's got that on his head. Yeah.

Yeah. That's rough. But obviously that was not the truth either. That he's like, I'm just going to, you know, just going to use it to shoot a treat. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just gonna use it to shoot a tree. It's fun. Yeah. So 19 year old Bartow then hopped on a bus headed to LA to carry out this whole masterfully.

And also just a side note, he had been inspired by Arthur Richard Jackson who had stocked and then attacked Theresa Saldana who was an actress from the early 80s. Oh yeah. And she actually survived the attack. She did. I remember that story. So Jackson just, I'm going off on a side note just because this is where Robert got his kind of idea from. So Jackson got Teresa's address after he found her mother's phone number. Holy shit. And called her mother and saying that he was to deliver and like a really important script to her and he

lost her address and could she tell him what it was. Oh my god. And the mom is sending there like, especially I mean in the early 80s like this hadn't really happened a lot. Yeah. No one had really been like stalked. Yeah, shit wasn't the same. Like how they do. Yeah. How everybody has a stalker. How people like docks people and stuff stuff online. And all that. Right. So she was like, OK, and gave it to him. And he fucking stabbed her multiple times. And like I said, she survived. And he went to jail.

But this is where Bartow got his ideas. Oh my god. So when he got to LA, we're back to Bartow now. He hired a private investigator to find out Rebecca's address. Oh my god. And when he got to LA, we're back to Bardot now. He hired a private investigator to find out Rebecca's address. Oh my God. And when he got it, he went directly there on the morning of July 18th. He, it was super weird. He like wandered around her neighborhood first, like showing her picture to people and

being like, oh, like, do you have you seen this girl around the neighborhood? Like, they're like, it's fucking Rebecca. Yeah, they're like, I've seen her on TV. Yeah. And like, a lot of people were like not, like wanting to talk to him because he was super creepy. Yeah, because that's weird. It was West Hollywood, so they didn't think anything happened.

Yeah. So this private investigator he hired actually gave him her address. I think he got it from like the DMV because back then, the DMV, there was no law against like giving out addresses. Like, you could, you could go to the DMV because back then, the DMV, there was no law against giving out addresses. Like you could go to the DMV and just fill out a piece of paper saying who you were and why you wanted it. And they would just give it to you.

That's so fucked. Yeah, that's real fucked. So he literally paid him $250 and he got her address. God, for $250. Yeah, wow. And people didn't like the look of him when he was God, for $250. Yeah. Wow. And people didn't like the look of him when he was there, like walking around the neighborhood. Like one lady was like, he literally looked demonic.

Ugh. Like he, and, oh, that just like gave him a chance. And I'm supposed to judge people by what they look like, but he's a shit stain. So he's really fucking terrifying looking. Yeah. No, he is. I remember saying pictures.

He looks so spook, spook. Yeah, he does. He wandered around holding the Minilla envelope with a sign. And he had a signed picture of her that she had sent him. Oh, okay. Like when she when she was being nice

enough to fucking run it back. Yeah. And he also had a copy of JD Salinger's catcher in the ride. Ah, and plastic bag. So just like Mark David Chapman when he killed John Lennon.

Exactly. So this guy is literally just taking pieces from other people. just like Mark David Chapman when he killed John Lennon. Exactly. So this guy is literally just taking pieces from other people. Yeah, he's the fucking BTK of celebrity murders. What the fuck dude? Be original. Well, catch her in the ride.

Come on. Yeah, literally go fuck yourself. Like, can you be more on the fucking house? What's that one thing that holds in? Oh, you're a phony. You're a phony. Anyways. So eventually he got to her back as a part man

and he buzzed her intercom. Her intercom was broken at the time. So she had no choice but to come down and see he was on the door. And maybe she normally wouldn't have done that. But like I said, this was a big morning. She was waiting for a script. Oh yeah.

So she would have gone down like anybody can deliver a script. So she was waiting for a script. Oh yeah. So she would have gone down, like anybody can deliver a script so she wouldn't have recognized the person who wouldn't have been somebody that she knew. So that's why she was like so easy to go downstairs. Oh, what shitty coincidences. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham,

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Well, she went as far as to, she excused herself, but not before shaking his hand and saying, please take care. Oh. Like she was super fucking nice. And then she, like excuse herself, she left and he left. And then so he had this very pleasant and direct room with him. Yes, very nice. So then he goes to eat at a diner, like not too far from her apartment. And he is sitting there like stewing because yeah, he thought he was going to kill her and then she was super fucking nice to him. And

he probably didn't have any reason to. Exactly. So, but then he went back because God only knows why. Yeah, so he's just pissed that he doesn't have the motivation he needed. Yeah. So, he went back and he said something to her, like I forgot to give you a CD or like I something like that. And according to him, but I don't believe this, just based on who Rebecca was as a person, like based on who Rebecca was as a person, like based

on what everybody says. He said that she said something along the lines of that he was wasting her time. And so I don't believe to go away. Yeah, I don't believe that. And I was like, I don't think so. And he said that she was acting like a brat or something like that. Probably because she was like, okay, that's enough. Freaking me out.

Yeah. Like the first time you, the first time was way overstepping. Yeah. Way to come back. And then for you to come back to come back, I'd be like, okay, like this is totally taken a turn way too much. So I wouldn't that's not acting like a brat. That's being a fucking human being.

Yeah. Just like, okay. I'm a little upset here. Right. So then that is when he reached into his back waistband, pulled it and fired, pulled the gun and fired two shots at Rebecca, one hit her directly in the heart. Oh my God, that just like, like the saddest thing. And there is like video footage of his interrogation or whatever it is.

And he like reenacts. And he's acting like he's in like a movie or he's like, oh, pulled the gun. And he, I think I saw this. So, but he fucks himself because his lawyers were trying to say that like the gun was in the bag. Oh, okay. Killed her. So like, it wasn't premeditated exactly. Yeah. Because they, they were trying to get him out of first degree murder. Yeah. And of course, Marsha Clark, the prostitute, the prostitute, was like watching his interrogation video over and over again. She was like something about it was bothering me.

And when he explains how he shot her, he reaches around to his back pocket literally, or like his back waistband and does this kind of motion and then says that he fired. So it's clear that it was there all along. That it was in his back pocket or in his back waistband. Yeah. You had to reach all the way around. Yeah. Grab it out. Like he had stashed it. Yeah. So that's how she got him. And I think I remember seeing that interrogation video because it's terrifying because he's very excited to show

like how he's shot. Yes, literally like and then I was like, and then he obviously she like screamed and he's like, he's like, reenact her screaming. Yes, I remember that. And it's so fuck. He does this weird like slow motion like movie like, oh, like literally back just like just like yes I remember it's like it's like burned in my brain. I remember watching that. You killed someone yesterday and he's acting like

it was this really cool movie scene that he did. Yeah, it's locked. So after he killed her he immediately fled the scene and like she went back to Arizona. So in the meantime, Rebecca's parents flew out to identify her body. Somebody has to. And her father remembered, was she 21? Oh my God. Yeah, like a baby. She was literally super young. She was younger than I. She had her whole career. And it's just, like, it's so sad anyways when anybody fucking dies, but this girl had like the brightest future.

I had to think she was such, and she just seemed so nice. Yeah, she seemed like a genuine person that she shook his hand and said, take care. She wrote him back. And because she like slept with somebody on camera for a role. Yeah, because she acted.

Yeah. She did her job. Like, because she did what you liked her to do everywhere else. Yeah. And that she was protected behind the Warner Brothers security fence at her job. Yeah. Like you. So so fucking entitled when her parents were to identify her body, her dad remembered that her he said her body was there, but she wasn't, her spirit was gone. Oh my god. Which is like, oh, that just like, that just gave me like, like, like, heartache, instant heartache. Because that's like your child. And she was their only child. Oh my god. I can't even. So sad. I can't. Her parents are like bad bitches though just wait until the end. Good. So

The next day Robert Bartol was arrested in Tucson after running in and out of traffic on interstate 10 They're very casual. They thought maybe he was like trying to get hit by a car or something Yeah, he was running in and out of traffic yelling. I killed her by a shaper. What the fuck? Like this guy needed serious, like, like, yeah, he clearly needed a lot of help. Yeah. So shortly after he was arrested, his sister notified authorities that she had suspected

he'd been responsible when she heard about Rebecca Shaver's death because he had written her letters describing his obsession with Rebecca and telling her like he was so pissed off that she became a Hollywood W word. And he was like basically telling a sister that this was his plan. That I'm gonna kill her. Yeah, exactly. So later during the trial, Bardo's brother and father testified that once they heard about Rebecca's death, they looked to see if the gun was gone that they knew he had. Can you imagine? And when they saw that it was gone, they knew.

They were like, you need to eat it. But it's like, guys, when he's telling you like, how pissed off he is that this celebrity is having a love scene and that she's a whore now and that he's like felt betrayed by her because of this, don't you think you should take action then? Yeah, because that's fucked up and that's not normal, like, logical human thinking.

No, like they need it to be somewhere, like put somewhere. They should have looked at that and been like, okay, this is, this has started to turn. This isn't just like his celebrity crush. Like, we need to take action here. Right. And he didn't, right?

What the fuck, guys, like his sister? You got fucking letters where he's describing how piste is about this. You take action. Yeah. Like? What the fuck, guys? Like his sister? You got fucking letters where he's describing how Pisty is about this. You take action. Yeah. Like what the hell, guys? It's so fucked up. So like I said, the defense tried to build like this

insanity case where they were like, oh, he's guilty because of this. But Marsha Clark was like, yeah, fuck you. It was premeditated. He brought the gun in his waistband and I know it. And also, oh, the Jeff Feins tried to say, he tried to say that a YouTube song made like, spoke to him and like possessed him and made him want to kill someone. And if you want to see the most terrifying fucking video in your life, oh no, you can watch them play the YouTube song in court.

And he literally, it's like Diane Downstyle, like she was like nodding her head to hungry like- I'm really like a wolf. But he is going nuts over this song. He's like a head banging and like singing in lyrics. Literally like bop and back and forth. We should post it if possible.

Oh my God. I watched it and I had full fucking body chills. Oh, what song is it, do you know? It was exit. It was exit. I don't know. I might know the song if I heard it. I just don't know if I heard it.

It sounded familiar when I heard it, but it wasn't off that album that everybody has to have on their phone by YouTube. No, it's not. No, different one. So yeah, so the defense, but the defense is like fucking stupid ass defense thing didn't work. Stupid ass defense. Yeah, it didn't work because Mark Shaclarke is a bad bitch and the judge found Bartow guilty of

Capital murder and he was sentenced to life without the possibility of the ruling. Good. And then later on in jail He got stabbed like 11 times. Oh shit. But he survived. Oh, damn. The bummer. Which is a bummer. He got stabbed like 11 times. You said that with such like glee because he should be stabbed 11 times daily. Yeah, that's fucked up. I can't say these things. No, we can't. Well, I can. No one should be stabbed 11 times daily, but like if anybody deserves to be stabbed 11 times. Like if we're talking in like, you know, hypothetical, you know, the only good that did come from the murder of Rebecca Schaefer were stricter laws regarding stalking. Shortly after her death, a law was passed that prohibited the DMV from releasing addresses. Oh, good. And the LAPD put together the first threat management team.

Oh, wow. Rebecca's remembered by those who love her, including her mother, who now does a live show remembering Rebecca's life and the day it ended. That's fucking amazing. If you watch the 2020, she puts on like this. It's almost, it's not improv, but it's like an improv kind of show. Oh, that's cool. It's like a one-woman show. Yeah, it's a one-woman show and it's so touching. And like, she's like, I got the call and like, she describes getting the phone call and like,

but she like also describes Rebecca like moving to New York and then moving to Holly. Oh my God, that must be the most heart wrenching show. I have children like, yeah, I have chills just thinking about that. Mm-hmm. Like describing your child's like go like their success climbing up the ladder, making it. And then this awful fucking tragedy that happens to them.

Oh, yeah, I can't even, like that she's a bad bitch from being able to for one doing that, like keeping Rebecca's, her name is Dana, like her memory alive, keeping her like success, like living somewhere. And I think that's the whole reason that she wanted to do it. Plus, I'm sure it's like some,

because I'm like, it must be, it has to be like, just to go over that over and over again must be, it has to be some form of therapy for yeah, but holy shit. So that is the big old bummer case of Rebecca Shafer. I P Rebecca Shafer. RIP series. That's a real bummer. They said that at her cast or at her funeral. There was like a shit

on the people there. Oh sure. And they put the casket next to her mom and somebody said that her mom didn't take her hand off the casket the entire like ceremony. Oh my god! That's oh! Isn't that gut-wrenching? Oh! Stabby right in the chest. Right in the chesticles. It was really sad. Oh, that. That hurts. I know. Wow, fuck that guy. And like, fuck that guy for like taking little bits and pieces from other shit bags who've done that. It's saying that YouTube possessed you.

Like, fuck you, man. You fucking too. Yeah, you too. And you know what, that's just taking from other people too. It's just being like, oh, I'm just gonna take little bits and pieces from all these other psychos. But I will say, obviously he, obviously, he clearly was, I mean, he's a shit stain, but he was obviously failed.

I think he might have later been diagnosed with schizophrenia. Yeah. So he was, so he was failed many times. By many, many different situations and people, which is not an excuse. Yeah, not an excuse, but I do also want to recognize. But yeah, that like mental health stuff is no joke. Like you can't fucking ignore it, man. And that's the thing, don't fucking ignore,

even the littlest thing. Yeah, like that's the thing. Even as like absurd as it sounds like I'm so in love with this celebrity, like I'm gonna go meet them. Like yeah, you can't let your friends do that. Yeah, you have to be like, do, unless it's a meet and greet. Do you want to sit down and like talk about what this is?

Like, do you, like at least talk to people, try to communicate with them. That's the issue now, people just like, don't. Yeah, people don't want to get into that shit. And it's like, but if he's writing, you know, he's talking to a sister about how piste is about this love scene. That should have been, I mean, if my brother, or if like you were like, I'm, I'm truly pissed in this actor. I love this now. Obviously, something is wrong. Is now an asshole because he had a love scene on screen. I'd be like,

can we sit down and just talk about this and like, do you should see someone? Because that's a problem. Oh, the only thing that I will say about a sister, I think she lived in like Tennessee. Yeah, but still. It stills like, dude, just, and I'm not, again, I'm not saying it's anybody else's fault. No, but I'm saying like, you gotta, you gotta, there was a lot of people who should have, who failed to act

when they should have acted here. Like you can't buy somebody a gun. Yeah, but as, no, you can't. You can't, exactly a gun. Yeah, but as you can't. You can't. Exactly. You struggled with the struggles. You struggled with the struggles. Many moving parts usually go into these kind of scenarios.

Well, 100%. And when somebody is seemingly having a mental break of some sort, and you see that there is some mental health issues going on, when they want you to buy them a gun don't. Yep, don't do that. To when they start talking about a person that they are obsessed with who is, you know, be it a celebrity or other people or common folk or common peasants like us.

You know, maybe don't let them fly somewhere or go somewhere to show up at their house. Definitely not. With said gun. Yeah, just do everything in your power to not let that happen. Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's that's asking too much from no more. But tip like I hope no one gets bad at us for that. But you know, like I feel I feel pretty confident saying that that's those are good tips. Yeah, right?

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