Morbid - Spooky Lighthouses Vol. 2

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

Yo ho ho (and a bottle of rum) it’s time for some spooky haunted lighthouses!! Alaina brings us the in depth haunting of St. Augustine Lighthouse which involves quite a few tragedies but al...so some really cool points in women’s history. And once you’re uplifted from that Ash will bring you right down diggy down down with the story behind how Execution rocks lighthouse received its name and a tale of murder at Wood Island Lighthouse! As always, thank you to our sponsors: Noom: Sign up for your trial at Noom.com/MORBID RO: Right now, if prescribed, new members will receive 10% off of eyelash growth serum from Ro Derm when you go to RoDerm.com/MORBID  Simplisafe: You can customize the perfect system for your home in just a few minutes at SIMPLISAFE.com/morbid. Go today and claim a free indoor security camera plus 20% off with Interactive Monitoring. Daily Harvest: Go to DAILYHARVEST.com/morbid to get up to forty dollars off your first box! Notion: Learn more and get started for free at notion.com/morbid See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 Right. And this is what happened. This is what happened when we recorded the first one. Be ready. Hey, we're the I.M.S. And I'm waiting up in this is Merbant Spooky Lighthouse's Edition Merbant, Merbant, Merbant, Merbant.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I'm so excited for most of the ride houses. Yes. So, uh, so yeah, I don't know what that means. I don't know if we're supposed to be doing this episode, but we're gonna forge ahead. We're gonna go forth and conquer. It's gonna be like the Oragon Trail, and we're just gonna forge across the river.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, that was a lot. Let's hope we don't get like yellow fever. Yeah. Well, yeah, we cut most of that like first part because we didn't want your ears to start bleeding in your car. But we were explaining that we're gonna do like a fucking haunted week this week. Yeah. And just have a bunch of haunted episodes because they're fun. They are fun. We're just feeling in a spooky mood. We're feeling like we want to be ghosty. Yeah. I just like the summer is starting and it's making me miss October. Yeah. And you know, I feel like every haunted place obviously has to do with some tragedy or death
Starting point is 00:03:38 some murder of some kind that happens with it. So it's very interlocked with true crime. At least we're going to find ones that are. And I feel like, you know, sometimes we just need a week of spooky true crime instead of just like straight up true crime. And that's why we named it morbid, because it's all encompassing. It's morbid, man. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:03:55 If you have ghosts, you have everything, so we're just not gonna explain that further, because if you know, you know, and if you don't, you don't, but go listen to ghosts. But that gets it away. That's how you know, you know, and if you don't, you don't. But go listen to ghost. But that gets it away. That's how you know. You know, I just love you guys. I know. I want you to be right.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So I'm giving you this. Alright, well, let's start. Yeah, let's get into spooky lighthouses because I'm ready. Okay, so we each picked, you have one right, like one massive one. Yeah, I have one that was just too much. Too much. That's shocking shocking that's so crazy. Yeah, so yeah, Elena has one Super like haunted lighthouse and I have two and just to start this whole thing off We thought it would be fun to start with a listener tale from a lighthouse that we did in volume one
Starting point is 00:04:39 Exactly, so I'm not sure if I can say this person's name They'll probably tell me while I'm reading it. So it starts off and it says my adventures in the St. Simmons lighthouse. Hi weirdos. I think it's Simon's Is it I think it is yeah. Oh my bad. Is it S.I.M. Oh, and yeah, it is It is Simon. You're right. I'm leaving. So We're already off to a great start here. Hi weirdos fellow. Hi, weirdos. Fellow millennial Capricorn here. Oh, hey. Oh, oh, oh, hey. I hail from the pretty OK state of Georgia.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I was delighted after a shitty day at work to select your haunted lighthouses episode to listen to it while crying in the shower. Oh, my goodness. I'm sorry that you were crying in the shower, but like we've all been there. Yeah. Although I live in Athens, my home away from home is St. Simon's Island.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Growing up, my family would visit at least once a year. I've spent days, if not weeks, riding my bike up and down the island. And I have come across some seriously spooky places and stories. I love that. I've been to the lighthouse countless times and the stairs to the top are indeed very creepy.
Starting point is 00:05:42 You can tour the lighthouse, including the living quarters on the second floor. I have attached a photo of a creepy doll that hangs out in the nursery. Ooh, I haven't heard any doggo's barking in that lighthouse. But there definitely is a feeling attached to the building. The first floor is a museum. There is a bust of an amazing black woman named Nora August. As a young enslaved woman during the Civil War,
Starting point is 00:06:03 she was freed and went on to live her own life. The inscription on that bus reads, quote, Nora August, slave at age 23 years, purchased from the market, St. Augustine flaw. Oh, that's so weird. Oh, I didn't even do that on purpose. Oh, that's weird. Super weird. Whoa. April 17th, 1860. Now a free woman. And then it says, Nora Auguste, know her, respect her. Yes. I love it. And also that was weird because the lighthouse
Starting point is 00:06:32 that I'm doing is the St. Augustine lighthouse. That's why that was weird. It's strange. Yeah, we were like, that's weird. And we're not going to tell you why. We're not going to tell you why. I think very secretive today. Ha ha.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So here are a few other St. Simon's tales. Igbo landing. I think that's right. Maybe should we look it up? Igbo? Igbo? I'm gonna look it up. I guess it could be Igbo, but I'm feeling like it's Igbo landing. Pronouns. Pronounsiation. It's like pronounced names.com. Let's see. Oh, that's British, so it sounds better. She said, Igbo.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Igbo landing. Igbo landing. You can just say it like that. Okay. Igbo landing. There you go. In May, 1803, the Igbo, people of Nigeria were stolen as captives that arrived in Savannah, Georgia to enter the slave trade.
Starting point is 00:07:21 These enslaved people were chained and packed under the deck of a coastal vessel, which would take them to St. Simons. Before they could land ashore about 75 Igbo people rebelled, took control of the ship, drowned their captors, and finally landed the ship in Dunbar Creek. Following their arrival in the muddy marshes, they turned back to the water. Rather than live as enslaved people, the men died by a mass suicide. Supposedly still in their chains according to blackpast.org about a dozen bodies were uncovered and the rest were lost to history and legend. Wow that is heavy. That's why that place is so heavy.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Oh man. All right the next tale next tale. There's one of those souls coming out. You're always lurking. Mary DeWanda. As with most islands, there is a legend of a love story that ended in tragedy on St. Simon's. Hundreds of years ago, a woman named Mary lost her be trough to a violent storm. Horrified in heart sick, she ran into the waves,
Starting point is 00:08:21 perhaps on a horse and died. There's now a rumor of a wandering lover haunting the shores of St. Simon's. There's always a wandering lover. There always is. I have to be. I want to be a wandering lover, but like I don't all at the same time. No. I want to see a wandering lover and like give her a hug. Yeah, I want to see one and just be like, it's going to be okay.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah, but I don't want to be one. Here's Tinder, starts my day. Here you go. And we're like, actually, it won't be OK. It will not be OK. So what are you trying to do to this poor person? I was making her more lost. Looking for her lost bow who drowned at sea.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Known as Mary DeWanda or Mary the Wanderer, she can be seen in the evenings walking up and down the beach with a lantern. Oh. Always with a lantern. I got chills when you said that. Doesn't she's unbeautiful, though, I picture this woman just walking along the beach holding the lantern. And I see like the wind blowing these really like ethereal skirts back.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And they're white. Yeah, and it's all very gauzy and very just like, Yes. Airy and, Oh, back then was like so much spooky. It wasn't better, but like it was better than now. It just looked, it was like prettier at times. Yeah, it was more surreal. More surreal. Yeah, that's better than now. It just looked it was like prettier at times. Yeah, it was more more surreal
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah, that's all it was it was aesthetic. It was all right the light in the graveyard is the next one for it Christ Church Cemetery is a gorgeous old graveyard near near Ford I can do this near Ford, Frederica on St. Simon's Island. You did it I did it long ago a man lost his wife to an. The widower knew that his beloved was terrified of the dark, so he visited her grave every night to make sure that she had a lit candle on leaving her tomb. And I can't even get a textbook.
Starting point is 00:09:55 My heart just exploded! What love! That's literally love. I don't want you to be scared of the dark when you're dead. So I'm going to light a candle by you all the time. Oh my goodness. They say that you can still see a flickering light in the cemetery after dark,
Starting point is 00:10:10 long after both lovers have passed away. I'm obsessed. Oh, I love that. They also say, my friends and I run a YouTube channel called CountryFried Cryptid. Stop it. I think I've seen their YouTube channel. I think I have two.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And it's awesome. Yes. Oh my God. Where we explore spooky sites in Georgia. We even visited the place where Mary and Stembridge lived his worst life in Millageville. Stop it. We are on a hiatus, but hope to get back to investigating Haunted Georgia again soon. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That is amazing. And then they said, side note, for my birthday this year, I ventured up north to sleep over at the Lizzie Board and house. Yes Yes! While I didn't get any spooky vibes. Whoa! Interesting. That's shocking. I did find an amusing that someone left an ibuprofen in the offering plate upstairs in the John Morse room. That's amazing. You know, for those headaches that the Borden's must have been having in the afterlife. Yeah. I think it's probably nice to do. I hope you enjoy these photos, including me cosplaying Mary DeWanda,
Starting point is 00:11:05 one of Dunbar Creek, and one of me trying to climb an oak tree. I will be sure to keep it weird down south for both of you. Thank you. I'm not gonna say this person's name because they didn't specify, but their YouTube channel, that's true.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It's pretty red. So check out their YouTube channel. Oh, that's so funny. I definitely have come across that and I've definitely watched videos and like, as soon as I read it, I was like, been into it. That sounds really familiar. That's really cool. That was also just like the perfect opening to this episode because it gave us like a little tidbit of each tail and I think you said it so beautifully. Thank you for doing that because that was like a really
Starting point is 00:11:36 Well put together. It was history there. I liked that a lot. I loved that. All right, so should we start off with St. Augustine? Do you think? Yeah, let's start off with St. Augustine because I also have a listener tail that can set us up for that. All right, so should we start off with St. Augustine, do you think? Yeah, let's start off with St. Augustine, because I also have a listener tail that can set us up for that. Oh, my goodness. Listen to you. And by the way, if you've sent in, which you've sent in tons of lighthouse stories
Starting point is 00:11:54 and suggestions and listener tails, we love them, keep them coming. We're going to read those on listener tails episodes as well, so they won't get lost in the shuffle and not used if they're not used with the particular lighthouse episode. So just I wanted to make sure people knew that. And as a specify, you can totally like go because I saw a couple that were like, I won't bore you with like my whole experience there and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, give it to me.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah, like suggest it and then tell me your experience. And also I just realized that this is even weirder because this one's about St. Augustine, but it mentions St. Simon's. What the five guys realized that we did not plan this whatsoever. We each pulled these tails separately completely separately. Wow. We're what's happening today. There's a lot of fun to shit happening right now. This feels just like that. It feels in line. And also you and I have like been really in line lately. Like we were recording screen last night, and I swear I took a thought from your head and you just set it aloud.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It happened several times. And it was like a complex thought. Like not just a regular like, yeah, I want chicken for dinner. Yeah, you would suddenly say something and I was like, I was just thinking that. Yeah, maybe it's the room. Maybe it's the room.
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Starting point is 00:15:51 It's Liana. Let me see. Liana. Liana. Liana. Hi. Feel free to use my name on the off chance this tale graces your eyeballs and magically finds itself in a future episode that time is now.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Or the on chance. I was so excited about your new haunted lighthouse series. I'm so glad you guys were excited about that, because I love these. Your girl loves a good haunting, and I have a personal experience with lighthouse ghosts. My BFF and fellow weirdo sent me the first lighthouse episode, shout out to my girl, Diana.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Oh, Diana and Lena. Oh, Diana and Lena. I love that. Because we were actually planning a trip to St. Simon's late island later this summer. We are here. I immediately started looking into lighthouse tours. I'm a veterinary nurse.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Oh, I love you. You're an angel, you mean? Yeah. And would love for the chance to see the ghost of the bull the dog. Now onto my own personal haunted lighthouse experience. Feel free to edit as needed if you feel the need to convince, condense down to the juicy parts of the lighthouse episode. I will not do that.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Nay. I grew up in Florida and would visit the St. Augustine lighthouse almost yearly as part of school field trips. I remember as a child getting always getting a strange feeling when we went up the iconic lighthouse. But it wasn't until I was in my late 20s that I finally got the chance to do their ghost tour. As an empath who has had my fair share of paranormal experiences, I was excited to finally hopefully experience something at a place I grew up visiting and learning the history of. I've submitted another listener tale of the other ghostly encounters if you're interested in hearing more.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Obviously. I'm going to keep your name in consideration and I'm going to search that shit right after this. Me too. You're on the next listener too. At the start of the tour, guests were handed one E.M.F. reader per group, and were instructed to try to be as respectful and take things as seriously as possible in hopes of maximizing the chance for an encounter. This is where I shot a glaring side-eye at my two-cool for school younger brothers,
Starting point is 00:17:41 who at this point were scoffing and dissent-rested to mildly. My husband Matt was the one who was most excited for the tour, so he started as the one holding the EMF reader. Everything started relatively uneventful. We walked around, Matt asking questions, hoping to cause the EMF to light up. So far nothing. During the tour we learned of a lighthouse keeper who to talk about him, Peter Russ Musin, who to summarize was fond of two things, cigars and being strict. Who loves that. It was like Pappa.
Starting point is 00:18:10 It really is. He's fond of more than just that, but. Yeah, but cigars, he loves. He does. It was said he was a stickler for manners, and he hated when gentlemen would wear hats and doors. Well, guess who was currently breaking that rule? My husband and two brothers,
Starting point is 00:18:22 are all prancing around inside with their ballcaps. I suggested a mat that I try holding the EMF. The second it touched my hand, it lit up like a fucking Christmas tree. Oh yeah. To test, it wasn't a fluke, I asked some questions. Is somebody here with us? Lights.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Did you used to work here? More lights. Do you wish these young gentlemen would remove their hats while inside? Lights going fucking crazy. He's like, take your fucking hat off. He's like ding, ding, ding. The lights timed perfectly with the questions.
Starting point is 00:18:52 So as decided, I was the designated EMF gal for the remainder of the tour, much to my husband, Shagrin. This is also where my brother started switching from disinterest to the Hebe-Gbees. They felt extremely on edge the rest of the tour. That'll come into play later. Oh, and when I returned to that spot
Starting point is 00:19:08 of the initial interaction later in the evening, I couldn't help but detect the faint smell of smoke, even though the area was a smoke-free zone. My Asmatic ass has been well-trained to know when smoke is present. It ain't easy me and weasies. Ha ha ha ha. Always funny.
Starting point is 00:19:25 My other experience, I believe, was with one of the young girls who tragically passed while playing in a construction cart that smashed into the bay. I'm going to go into that when I go into that place. Oh, sad. We are at the In Keepers' house where there are several tales of the girls tugging on clothing and playing hide and seek. Women are primarily who report having these interactions. I was sitting on a bench
Starting point is 00:19:45 with my husband and one of my brothers. The other was already waiting in the car at this point. Still holding the MF, I decided to ask some questions targeting the little girls. Are one of the girls here? Nothing. My name is Liana. I'd like to play a game with you if you'd like. One little light flash. Would you prefer it if the boys left? Another teensy flash. little light flash. Would you prefer it if the boys left? Another teensy flash. At this point my brother, my brother declared, fuck this and went to join the other by the car. My husband switched to a bench further away. I placed the EMF reader down on the bench on the exact spot where my brother was sitting. Lights all the way to red. I locked eyes with my husband who saw the whole exchange and he gave me a nod to continue.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I spent the next 10 minutes or so playing a guessing game with whatever spirit had grace me with her presence. I would try to guess things like her favorite color, and the EMF would light up like crazy when I got the answer right. Even though I didn't experience anything crazy like a full body apparition or disembodied voices, I still can't deny that the experiences I had were anything but paranormal and very exciting. My brothers to this day don't like talking about the tour, and I'm convinced they sent something that made them uncomfortable. Thanks for reading my spoopy tales, and definitely keep it so weird that you stay open to experiences, because you never know what little ghost girl just wants to play a game with a kind stranger,
Starting point is 00:21:01 but not so weird that you traumatized some teenage boys who just wanted to wear a baseball cap. I love it. I love that. Thank you, Leanna. Thank you. And that's going to play really nicely into my tale now. Let's go. So I'm covering the St. Augustine Lighthouse. Yeah, y'all.
Starting point is 00:21:18 It was built in 1874, the one that is at least, so it was actually on there in one form or another, on this island. the one that is at least, so it was actually on there in one form or another and on this island from way back in 1586. It actually, when there was like versions of this lighthouse. That was a long ass time ago. But the one we're gonna talk about was built in 1874 originally. It is on, it is 100 Red Cox Road is where you can find it and that's in St. Augustine, Florida. Alrighty.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Now, I didn't realize while I began researching this, that St. Augustine is the oldest city in America. Oh, I didn't realize that either. I had no idea. For some reason, in my mind, it would be like Salem. Yeah. Salem? Yeah, like somewhere in St.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I mean, that was like what, 16, whatever. Yeah. So, yeah, I could see why you thought that. And then like, you think like Rowan Oak So yeah, I could see why you saw that. And then you think like, row and oak. Oh, yeah. And this was before that. It's just crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Now, it was established by the Spanish in 1565. And it was named after Saint Augustine, who was the patron saint of Brewers. He was apparently a hard partier with a quote, with wicked living and false beliefs. And then he was converted and became chill. So he's now the patron, the patron saint of stopping vices and chilling the fuck out, basically.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I kind of feel like in the beginning he was me. Yeah. And then he became you. Yeah. So Shane Agasin is kind of like the dual sides. He runs throughout us. Yeah. Wow. Yep. He sounded like a really fun time. Yeah. So he's just now the patron saint of, you know, stopping fucking around and chilling the fuck out. He's the patron saint of fuck around and find out.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Truly. Now there were lighthouses before this one, like I said, as early as 1586, but they were destroyed by, you guessed it, the Civil War. Yeah. Or just felt prey to the elements and erosion, like at least one of them just like fell into the sea. On average, and just like, yeah, he's just like, like, whole scoop. I'll take that.
Starting point is 00:23:18 So this one was built in 1874, and it still stands. And in 1981, it was added to the National Register of Historic Places. And you can go visit if you want. I want. I want to. I literally wrote, go do it. I will. Do it. It had keepers, like actual lighthouse keepers until about 1955, when they were able to use the wonder of technology to make the light automated. I feel like every lighthouse that I read about at some point or another became automated. Oh yeah. It was usually around like the 50s or 60s. And it kind of takes away the spooky greatness of a lighthouse to me, which is like a bummer.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Like it needs a keeper. You'd get the electricity out of there. I need a keeper. Right. Just light the fun. I digress. Now it has 219 stairs in it and it and the observation deck is 165 feet up, although you'll very high up.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Now back in the good old days, there were sometimes up to three lighthouse keepers at once. That had to be running this lighthouse. There was always a head keeper, like two assistants. And shit went down, my friends. There were some real tragedies that happened with the keepers over the years. And I get so excited when I can find a newspaper about a ghost story, especially the origins of a ghost story.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Because then you can actually be like, oh, this is for real. Like, this isn't just like a rumor. Exactly. And I found one for this one. So happy. It's like, yes, confirmed. So we're going to go through the tragedies and the deaths that have occurred here. And
Starting point is 00:24:49 then we're going to talk about the paranormal activity that has cropped up as a result of these. LFG. Now, the first thing that I want to chat about is the tragic tale of Joseph Andrew, who was the keeper in 1859. He was 60 years old, and he was known as a kind and respectful man. Hell yeah. He was doing his thing, in fact, called a very worthy keeper, and a very worthy man by the Charleston Daily Courier. Okay. And at the time of his death,
Starting point is 00:25:17 he was whitewashing the siding of the lighthouse, so he was like, way up. And he was still working. 60 years old, and according to the reports that day the wind was wild Oh, he was standing on some scaffolding and it was bucking to and fro Tragedically he fell from the scaffolding and according to the article which goes into graphic detail about exactly what happened Because it was probably like an old-time you newspaper of course. It's from 1850 something
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, they're like he fell off and three of his ribs fell out and his eyeball was over there. Well not quite that but it's still crazy. It said quote, he first struck the roof of the oil room 30 feet down once he glanced off and struck the stone wall which encloses the lighthouse and thenced to the ground a stone pavement. Oh. It said it was about a 60-foot fall from where he went, and he died almost instantly. But neighbors heard his screams that day from very far away. Oh, that stresses me out.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah. Now, a very interesting and cool thing did come from this tragedy. So there is something good that came out of this a little bit. Joseph's wife Maria was obviously devastated by the tragic loss of her husband, and so according to reports, she said she went to the top of the lighthouse afterwards, all the way 165 feet up, and in her grief, she just walked out onto that observation deck in her night-gown, and she just said into the whatever, what do I do? And she claims, and she claimed very adamantly
Starting point is 00:26:46 that she heard her husband's voice in the wind, say, 10 to the light. My body did the, like that too, that little like, woman. Yeah. And he said 10 to the light. Love, you're gonna make me fucking cry out here today.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And she crying in the club is what you're gonna do. Ryan and the Elena loves when I say that. I love when you say that. But yeah, he said 10 to the light so she knew exactly what she had to do. She was sick alone in VIP. I don't know what that means, but yes. Oh my goodness. Absolutely. Candy Muse. Oh yeah. Absolutely. And she said. So she knew exactly what she had to do here. And she got the entire community to back her. They all came together for her. And she became the first female lighthouse keeper
Starting point is 00:27:34 in Florida history being paid equally as the man and the men in the job. And became the first Hispanic American in the United States lighthouse service. Hell to the mother fucking yeah. Isn't that amazing? That come out of that tragedy. She went up there and her husband said,
Starting point is 00:27:50 take care of the light and she said, I will. I will, I will one up that. I will do even more. She said, I will become the first woman ever to do all the things. Isn't she amazing? So she like did the damn thing. Hell in the guest. The community was totally behind her.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Amazing. Which is just really cool. Wow, I love this and I feel like it's gonna get so sad and creepy. It gets really sad, but no one is like evil in this. Yeah. Everyone, and we'll get to it at the end, but like people who go to see this place, there's definitely some heaviness because there's a lot of tragedy. Of course.
Starting point is 00:28:20 But nothing feels unwelcoming or angry people say. All right. Nothing feels like malignant. Yeah. Well, because it seems like, I mean, obviously, we're at the beginning, but the two people, or the one person who has passed away seemed like a great guy.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Well, and everybody who ran this place seems like they loved it. Right. And then the people who take care of it now really love it. So they're like, there's just a lot of like care put into this place. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And I think it comes out. The energy you put into your house. So the place you live is the energy you get back. Exactly. Now next we have William Harn. He became head lighthouse keeper after all of that. Now he had a lot of military service and then he moved to Charleston actually where he worked on a light ship before coming head, coming head keeper of the St. Augustine Lighthouse in 1864. So he was right after Maria's turn as head lighthouse keeper. He moved there with his wife Kate
Starting point is 00:29:12 and their five daughters, Ruby, Molly, Catherine, Charlotte, and Ida. Eventually they would have a six daughter named Grace, adorable. So he's got Ruby, Molly, Catherine, Charlotte, Ida, and Grace. I love. And it auto corrected to grave. And I was like, the young is about to be like, graves so metal. But he was the head keeper of this lighthouse for 14 years, dang, tragically though, he suffered from tuberculosis.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And in 1889, he passed away from it. And he passed away in the actual keeper's home on the property. So during his illness, his wife Kate took over everything. She ran the lighthouse. There's a lot of bad bitches in this. A bad bitch is a plenty. Yeah. This is like a real like, the women are just taken over.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And it seems like it's like all equal and awesome. Yeah. She helped with the keeper duties while raising the children and also taking care of William. There was like 86 kids. Yeah. After his death, the community rallied right around her too, and they signed a petition to have her appointed as the lighthouse keeper. Dude, do you feel like that was like Maria and like- I feel like Maria was pushing that over this.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yes. And she was actually given the second keeper position, and another keeper was moved into the head position But she's still second keeper. Lame of them to not give her the head keeper position Well, and still really cool that the community rallied around her like they did. Yeah, that's really cool so We have him who died in the house and then we have like another cool like boss story. Yeah, boss bitch But then September 24th 1894. We're gonna that the next headkeeper had moved into his spot. That guy was Joseph Ranthia.
Starting point is 00:30:50 His wife ended up dying in the keeper's home. Yeah, we got to. Yeah, it's unknown how we think it's just an illness or something happened. There's no murder involved. There's no anything pretty easier sensational. It was the 1800s. It was natural losses because she was 25.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Exactly, because she was just a person. Yeah. Now, he was the keeper, the head keeper for 12 years. OK, so people really love this job. They stick around for a while. They do. Now, in 1873, a truly harrowing tragedy happened at St. Augustine Lighthouse.
Starting point is 00:31:20 This is where it gets bleak. During this time, there was a massive amount of construction being done on the lighthouse. They were renov it gets bleak. During this time, there was a massive amount of construction being done on the lighthouse. They were renovating some of it. A man named Hezekiah Pitti lived on the grounds of the lighthouse and took the job as superintendent of lighthouse construction. He and his wife Mary had five children, four daughters, and one son. In order to make things move smoother, a system was created for construction. The workers used a railway cart to bring the supplies to and from wherever they needed to go.
Starting point is 00:31:50 This cart ran a path from the lighthouse construction site all the way down to the water where the ships carrying all the supplies would come in. The cart would travel down this path. It would be stopped by one single piece of wood that acted like a makeshift gate to keep the cart from flying into the water when it was on the path. Right. And it worked because this cart was going down to the water empty at all times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And then returning the other way, full. But that wasn't always the case. Oh. You see, kids in the area like to use this as a ride. Yeah, what the hell is for the kids to do? Not a lot else to do. They would hop in this nice, you know, this once it was empty, they would hop in at the construction site and would ride it down the path to the water, only
Starting point is 00:32:31 to be stopped by that all important wooden board at the end. Uh-huh. They loved it, seemed like an assent fund to the adults because 1800s. Right. You know, now on July 10th, 1873, 15 year old Mary Pitti, 13-year-old Eliza Pitti, and four-year-old Carrie Pitti, were in the cart with a friend who was never named, but has said to have been about 10 years old, and they believe that she might have been the daughter of a worker, one of the construction workers.
Starting point is 00:32:58 They took the ride down without knowing the wooden makeshift gate was lifted from the last supply trip. Oh, no. And I'd just never been placed back down. So the cart flew directly into the water and it flipped over on top of the girls and basically pinned them underwater. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:33:14 A worker named Dan Session, a construction worker, saw this, ran as fast as he could to save them. I mean, he like lifted that cart up. He pulled them out himself like hero status with his bare hands, but three of the four girls had drowned by the time he had grabbed them. Only four-year-old Carrie lived. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, the other three had died. Now the entire project was stopped. The entire town of St. Augustine completely shut down for the memorials and funerals. So sad. And so that is a huge tragedy that occurred on this land. Right outside of the lighthouse. That's direct tide in the water. So we're going to keep up, remember, we're going to keep all these tragedies in mind, and then we're going to connect them back to some paranormal shit. Okay. But then in 1901, a man named Peter Rasmussen took over. That's who the listener, Taylor Liana, was talking about. Cigars and manners. Yep.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Took over as the headlight housekeeper, and he is actually the longest running keeper. He did it for 23 years. Wow. I told you, people love this job. They do. Now, like we said, Peter also, aside from loving cigars and loving to be like hate tourists and like being very strict, he loved good fancy shit He loved smoking the best cigars, but he was super cranky
Starting point is 00:34:30 No visitors and staff. Well, I don't think he was like a bad guy. I think he was just strict strict guy Have you ever seen the movie Grumpy Old Men? Yeah, he's just grumpy guy. They're all like that now visitors and staff will distinctly smell cigar smoke. When they go into the lighthouse keepers' home and grounds, like Liana said, she smelled smoke, and it ain't easy being weasy, she knows smoke. She's asthmatic, so she could smell it. And that is something that all the staff say they smell all the time, very distinct cigar smoke.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Oh, man. The guys and our family love to have a cigar. Well, they're together and the freaking odor that they come back inside with. It's very distinct, too. It is. That's you know some cigar smoke. It's like a musky.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah. It's just like very you know it. Yeah. They also, people will see a man in a suit in the basement of the keeper's home walking around and causing people to feel anxious. Oh. And they believe it looks like Resmiessen and it in an economy sense that he would make people feel anxious because he's very strict and they're like, I'm underdressed. And like
Starting point is 00:35:29 Leanna said, he did not like when people wore hats indoors. Gentlemen, don't wear your hats. So I think he's two. He just has a vibe that's like, don't fuck up around me. I mean, I feel like I would strive to impress him. Yeah, I would. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like I could make him my good old buddy. Yeah, I think I would. I think you would too. I absolutely love the look of false lashes. They instantly give my eyes like more definition, more drama. They make me feel sassy, you know? But I don't love how hard they are to apply sometimes, or how messy lash glue can be if you make a mistake,
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Starting point is 00:37:24 get free, unlimited follow-ups with your healthcare provider To support you throughout your eyelash growth journey roderum.com forward slash morbid So you heard it here first. We're gonna make Peter rest me sin our good old buddy. You can sit with us Peter. Yeah, you can It's fine. I meet Peter at the boat. I get being cranky. I get it. Sorry if you can hear my chair moving. I'm like moving a lot. Sorry if you can hear my chair moving.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I'm like moving a lot. I'm like that. There's a lot of movement. I'm like moving here. I'm moving a little bit. My chair is like, squeaky and yours is like not. I know. Yeah, my nose on you're right.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Because I'm moving around and I don't hear it. My husband, you're right. Because I'm moving around. And I don't hear it. I have like a farting chair. You have a gassy chair. Yeah. She has ebbs. I was about to say it, but I was like, I'll let you say it. I'm always gonna. I'm not gonna out your ebbs more than you already do. Peter would hate this conversation. Oh, Peter would be hard. Oh, no, maybe we wouldn't make him work. I don't think old buddy. He would want to think of how often we burp. Yeah. He would not want to be our friend. Oh, no, maybe we would make him I don't think old buddy would want to think of how often we perp. Yeah, he would not want to be our friend Man, sorry Peter and I do love a hat It's true. I do love a hat, but I personally feel as though indoors. It's bad luck
Starting point is 00:38:32 So oh there you go. Mm-hmm. There's a lot of bad luck stuff. There is I can have you make a list I can do so because I feel like I commit a lot of these Treasonous acts that are gonna get you. Luck gonna get me got you. So, now, luck, now, luck, now, luck. Well, let's get to the last light housekeeper. You know, shall we? Let's get to him.
Starting point is 00:38:55 We shall. He manned the lighthouse from 1953 to 1955 when it became automated. Oh, wow. Oh. His name was James Pippen. Every, yeah, is this the audition for Pippen? Is this the audition for Pippen? Every lighthouse keeper lived on site in the keeper's home during their time at the post and James did as well,
Starting point is 00:39:17 but he eventually moved out of that home, an off site, which was never done before. I feel like that defeats the purpose of being the keeper. Well, he said the reason was that he said, quote, that big house was haunted and I will not stay another night in it. Ooh, so he was like, fuck that, no way. He said he would hear maddening footsteps all night upstairs, but no one was there.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And he said he just couldn't stand it anymore. It just felt like people were walking around everywhere. I hate that. Now, I mentioned before that after that last lighthouse keeper, like we said right now, that light became automated. So now the lighthouse keeper's home was rented out because they didn't need to use it anymore. A man who was a leather crafter was renting it in the 1960s.
Starting point is 00:40:01 He later reported that one night he woke up and he saw a little girl wearing a lace dress standing next to his bed just staring at it. Get out of my room. And he said he shot up to look at her and she just closed her eyes and vanished. Well thank you for getting out of my room. She got out of it. She was like, sorry. She just closed her eyes and left. Just closed her eyes and vanished. Oh check it. Honestly, what a superpower I know you're just uncomfortable and you're like, oh, and I'm gone and poop. Bye. Yeah, she was out of there She was like, oh sorry sorry to me to wake you. I don't know. She's like a little creepy
Starting point is 00:40:34 She's watching you sleep and then she's like, oh you woke up. No fun. Well, that's kind of what kids do though It makes sense. I guarantee you that was like a poor year old or something Well, you'll just wake up and your kids just standing there and they're like, mama, mama, like just staring at you. And you'll open your eyes like, what? Ah. And they just like, yeah, they're weird. That's actually true.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Your kid slept at my house not that long ago and I woke up to one of them just at the foot of my bed like needing something and I was like, what the fuck? What the fuck? I was like, whoa, that's what kids do. They freak you out in the middle of the night. They do. So I believe it.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Now, there's a ton of activity in the basement of the keeper's home. And up to this day, and since 1955, people have reported it. And there are stories that a man may have hanged himself down there. That's the only like real like, oh, like, you know what I mean? But I didn't find any newspaper articles about this.
Starting point is 00:41:22 But again, it could have been a long time ago and some of that stuff just wasn't reported. Yeah. So, but it is a story that is often told in the reason why there's a lot of activity down there. They also think that maybe the kids like to play down there, and that's why there's a lot of activity with the kids. Like they're still playing in the afterlife. Yeah. And we'll get to that because they definitely are still playing in the afterlife. Awesome. Now, in the living room slash sitting room area, staff will often hear an older man coughing in the evenings when the place is completely empty. That would drive you insane. It would make me crazy.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Elena fucking hates the sound of a cough. Oh, coughing. And loud sneezes, slurps, slurps, sniffs. I have like a real issue with sound. You have me so phony. I really do, because that it would make me absolutely baddy. No, I could not have lived. No, we've said, you know, and you're really talking,
Starting point is 00:42:14 but something I'm like, I need to cough now. I know, I almost, I'm like, I have to clear my throat now. Oh, look, clear my throat. Now, they think this might be William Hahn, who died of tuberculosis in the home. It makes sense. It reads. It does, it really does, because I mean, consumption, I'm literally due to cough a lot,
Starting point is 00:42:31 and cough up lead, and awful things. So sorry. And he would spend a lot of time in the sitting room being taken care of, and when he was like, ailing. So it kind of makes sense. I hate that he's still sick in the afterlife. I know, it's kind of a bummer that you just like perpetually cough. Or do you think maybe, I don't know, I don't want to get too theological with afterlife. I know, it's kind of a bummer that you just like perpetually cough. Or do you think maybe,
Starting point is 00:42:46 I don't know, I don't want to get too theological with it, oh good, get with it. I like, do you think that like certain parts of your energy like stay somewhere but other parts of your energy go off? Yeah, like maybe he's off somewhere but his like coughing is just yeah, because you will hear these stories
Starting point is 00:43:03 like I've read a little bit about like people just in a like perpetual loop. Right. Right. Like if somebody fell off a building, they're just perpetually in a loop of falling off that building. Oh, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And it's like, is the person in a loop a foreign actor? Or is their energy in that loop? Right. And is it all of their energy? Because their energy didn't have other things while they were on this like earthly place. Yeah, it's like, are they really defined by that energy
Starting point is 00:43:26 at the end of their life? Or are they, because that's the thing that ended their life? Oh, God, but then, like, oh no. Yeah, I don't know. Because I think of people that got brutally murdered, they just get brutally murdered in the afterlife forever. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:39 That's horrific. I don't know, I don't, because there's all kinds of, I think there's all kinds of different like spiritual Like energies and how they present themselves. I read things about like perpetual loops like that where you'll hear the same thing over and over again Yeah, but I just it's very complicated Well, and then is that like somebody in like a perpetual loop or did they have unfinished business? And that's why they're in that loop. Does it need to be broken somehow? Oh, fuck you know, I'm a much unfinished business., like, all the right, you, I'm like, I can't die yet.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I can't die, I have to finish filing my taxes, you know? I do. I do need to do that. My dad. My dad is hastily approaching. It is a loom and can you say hastingly? No, you can. I was gonna try to keep it to you.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Heastily, thanks. Hastily, yeah. Approaching with haste. All right, I'm listening. With my haste. I need to learn basic robotics before I die. You've got it. Unfinished business.
Starting point is 00:44:34 We'll get you there. No. People will also see a woman at the top of the observation deck in a long white night gown with her hair flowing. And they believe this is, this is Joseph Andrews wife Maria Oh, I will manning that light asking him what she should do. We're going. I need to meet the fucking legend That is for you. I need to meet my I would just say to her you bad bitch. Yeah, and then I would explain That's a good thing now. Yeah, that is a good thing. Now like let me preface this by saying yeah
Starting point is 00:45:04 I'm about to say is is the highest form of complement one can bestow upon me. Right. And then say, you bad bitch. You bad bitch, you are totally rufus. You are rufus. Spread it around like wildfire. So a guest who went there because you can still go there,
Starting point is 00:45:22 you can take these tours. I'll link it because it seems like a really cool place to go. The people who run it seem like they really care about it. And they run a really cool place there. So I want everybody to give them as much business as they can if they can. Now, a guest was walking up the staircase,
Starting point is 00:45:38 like ready to start a tour. And suddenly they almost tripped. And they were like, oh, what the fuck? And they looked down and their shoelace was tied to the railing. Oh my God. And they were like, oh, what the fuck? And they looked down and their shoelace was tied to the railing. Oh my God. And they were like, they clearly didn't do that themselves.
Starting point is 00:45:49 There was no explanation for it. No one on the tour could account for how it happened. There were other people on the tour that were like, I didn't see anybody do that. Like it was like one of the little kids. And they think it might have been one of the little kids because that's a very much a little kid thing to do, to be like, yeah, I'm too naive and young
Starting point is 00:46:04 to know that you could fall to your desk by me doing this. Or plot twist, was that person wearing a hat? Maybe, was it Peter Resmiu said, you're saying, you're gonna learn a lesson today. You are gonna learn today. I don't know. Either way, you can also hear giggling a lot. They hear that little girl's giggling.
Starting point is 00:46:22 They hear it, staff members here at visitors will hear it. That just like reminds me of the Blair Witch project when they're in the tent that one scene. And it scares the fucking day hates that part. Because it and you see like the little hands on it. And you hear like kids like. No, I hate that shit. No, look at my arm. Look at my arm. That's I have goosebumps. I hate that part. I hate that shit. No, look at my arm. Look at my arm. That's, I have goosebumps. Oh, I hate that part. I hate that whole movie. Fucks me up, man. It fucks me up, man. It does.
Starting point is 00:46:50 It really does. It does. No, staff members will say that often they hear giggling at the top of the tower. And they'll go up to check. Marie is so long. I hope that's not an actual child up like 219, like, stairs up there.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Oh, yeah, usually. 219 like stairs up there. Yeah, usually so they'll head up there and as they get up there, they don't hear it anymore. And then all of a sudden, they hear it down at the bottom and they go down to the bottom. They hear it at the top. So they're just like fucking with that. That kid just wants you to get your cardio. Yeah, they're like, you know what? Heart Health is important. Honestly. So the owners and staff, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:47:22 The owners and the staff think that this is definitely the pity girls and their friends like playing hide and seek. Cute. They'll also lock and unlock doors. Not so cute. And doors that are very hard to push open will like slam open or slam shut for no reason. Like they can't be blown by the wind.
Starting point is 00:47:40 This is just like a force is actually doing. That's wild. Now during another tour, visitors in a guide used an EMF reader to ask the girls if they wanted to play hide and seek. And they got really intense readings and walked around trying to like play along with them. Now apparently they were like walking around being like, are you over here? Like I'm going to find you like pretending to act like you would with a kid. And apparently they found that it was spiking again under the staircase.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And so they pretended to find them, but they found you, then the reading dropped, and then they found it again by the kid's play table. So it was like they were like found you, and they were like, aha, and they ran somewhere else. Like it worked out, and it only stopped when more guests arrived in that area. And then they were eating stocked.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Because they didn't want to do it in front of everybody. Oh my goodness. Now this next one gave me chills. The whole fucking thing is giving me chills. So there are times when people on tours will see a young girl and they'll talk to her and then they find that she vanishes. They either look behind them and look back and she's gone or she's just not there all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:48:43 You don't understand how badly I want to talk to a ghost kid, right? And I want to not know, and then later find out that I had the combo with a ghost kid. Yeah, I want to not know as it's happening. Right. Now often these girls are wearing period clothing, and people think they're just in costume like at a tour or something. But one time during a tour, a woman walked up to another woman on the tour and was like, your daughter is so adorable
Starting point is 00:49:09 and she was so well behaved. Like, I just wanted to tell you, like she was just like being like a really cool woman complimenting another woman. Which I was like, fuck yeah. Cause she just, right? She walked up to her and was just like, your daughter is just so well behaved.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Like, I just wanted to tell you like, great job. Great job, Mama. And this woman was like, wow, that's really nice of you to say but I don't have a daughter Oh, fuck and she was like what I'm not sure what you're talking about not only was she like my daughter's not here today She was just like I straight up don't have a daughter. I love that she took the time to say thanks first She was like that's super nice. Thank you so much Like I'm all about women supporting women and like mom supporting moms and like that was really cool of you to do But and like continue to do that with other people
Starting point is 00:49:47 But I don't have a daughter So the woman who had complimented her was like, oh, I'm sorry There was a little girl standing next to you this entire tour and she was being so well behaved and the other guests confirmed This as well. They were like yeah, we saw that little girl and the woman was shocked It was like I don't have a child. It was like, I don't have a child. Oh my god. I don't have a child with me. And it was later confirmed with records
Starting point is 00:50:09 that no child had been present on that particular tour or any tour going on at that time. Which I'm vibrating out here. Yes. So that one freaked me out the most that it was like, there was a little girl standing with you the whole time and she was like, excuse me. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:50:22 They also found footprints in the dirt of a little kid with bare feet. Fucking the dirt. But no children were on the grounds and the footprints just vanished into the keeper's house. That's so cute. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people would not have that reaction to that statement, but I think that's adorable.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Like a little barefooted ghost kids. Just be like, dude, I'm just gonna go in first. Just gonna play some hide and seek. I'm gonna hang out on this tour and see what they say about me. I know. I'm just gonna see how this goes. They're just gonna play some hide and seek. I'm gonna hang out on this tour and see what they say about me. I know. I'm just gonna see how this goes. They're probably like,
Starting point is 00:50:47 why are these people dressed like so cheesy? So weird. They look horrible. No, people around the lighthouse and visitor staff, this is a little scarier. They hear horrifying screams daily and nightly here. Awesome. And in fact, it has happened so often
Starting point is 00:51:02 and the screams are so intense that the police have been called a lot because people think someone's being like injured or hurt. I love that at one point you were like, nobody feels like it's like, you're level-in. Well, it's totally fine. Everyone feels happy. Here's the thing, it's true. I will stand by that still. This they are attributing to Joseph Andrews fall. That's what I was thinking. And the fact that his screams were hurt so far away, but you're right, like, it's not a great thing, but it's not something like that.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I think people feel it's gonna hurt them. Yeah. But it's just like sad. That's more than anything. Yeah. Is that like you hear this like painful scream all the time? Right, because you're like, is that just happening? Like you're not saying.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You're not just gonna like let it go. No. Like they would have us believe happened in the Kitty Genoves case. They would just even, but you're not just gonna be like, oh, someone else will take care of that. You've got to call and be like, hey, I don't know what's going on,
Starting point is 00:51:54 but I hear some shit. Like, you should probably check it out. Don't, don't fall for the, for the bystander effect. Yeah, don't do that. But Shane and Ryan from Buzzfeed Unsolved came here in 2019. Are like character parts. It's a great episode.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Yeah, because you were showing clips. It's really good. And Ryan was very excited about going into this place, like as he should be. When they were in the parlor, I thought it was really interesting. They distinctly heard a man cough and they got it on tape. Yeah, I heard that one. It's spooky as fuck. And is it Ryan who tries to explain it away?
Starting point is 00:52:29 No, that was Shane. That was like, yeah. He's explaining it away a little bit. And I was like, I don't know, man. I was on Ryan's side. I will say, even Shane couldn't really explain this one away. He tried to and he's usually pretty successful at making me be like, oh, you're right.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah, but counterparts. This one? No, I was on the cough. It was a cough. It was with Ryan. I was like, that was a was on the car. It was a car with Ryan. I was like, that was a car. It was. That was a man's car.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And they were sitting in the living room, like parlor area. Right. It was crazy. And also just to leave you on this, they did have a ghost hunters episode on this location, also in 2019, actually. And they set up REM pods on each level of the lighthouse.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And a REM pod are like little electromagnetic field readers. So anytime like there's an ambient temp change and an energy field disturbance, it will set them off. You'll hear beeping and like lights. Very cool. And as they went up the spiral staircase, they all started going off together. And they were responding to questions. And there's also footage of a huge bang coming from the top of the stairs, when no one else was in it.
Starting point is 00:53:28 A huge bang forced me the fuck out because that used to happen at Mon Puppet House. Like from time to time. Yeah, that's scary to me. It sets my whole body on like a flame. It just, I sporadically combust every time it happens. It's really scary. Despite the tons of paranormal activity they found,
Starting point is 00:53:45 Grant Wilson, who's like one of the ghost hunter guys, he said he felt safe. He didn't feel any malice from any of it, which makes sense because it's all either, you know, tragic accidents or keepers who just loved that lighthouse and seemed not to want to leave it. And he actually told Kelsey Lloyd, who is the special programs manager at the Lighthouse
Starting point is 00:54:05 that he believed it's becoming more and more active each time they visit, because he said it just keeps getting more and more each time they're there. He said that's because he thinks the people who run that Lighthouse love the building, they love and appreciate the history, and they love and appreciate and respect the people
Starting point is 00:54:22 who called it home for so long. So they said, I think the spirits feel safe here and they feel like they can't let themselves out. Which is like a really nice thing because you're like, wow, it's nice that it's being taken care of by people who want to like respect the history and show it. Yeah. That was like so scary and beautiful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:39 And that's the same Augustine lighthouse. Much like yourself. Very beautiful. Very beautiful. Wow. The ultimate compliment. You're welcome. Thank you. Wow, I really liked that one because that one was like very wholesome. It was. It really made me like, I was like, I can't stop one stop and there's also just so much history with it. There it is. I want to go. It made me feel like, not because I felt bad for all
Starting point is 00:55:00 these like tragedies that happened there. But it also made me feel like, wow, like these keepers really love to the fucking lighthouse. Yeah. Like I was like like damn. I love that. It's just like a nice thought. Um, mine are not as like wholesome at all. In fact, my first lighthouse is called execution rock's lighthouse. I love that. It's in Long Island. Sure. And if you don't say Long Island has been your wrong. Long Island. Long Island. Long Island. We went through a period the other day where we just couldn't stop saying that. So the execution rock's lighthouse. I'm going to tell you about it. I love it. It is smack dab in the middle of New Rochelle City and Sand's Point Village in Long Island. Long Island. Long Island. Long Island. And it was built in 1849. And this is a fun fact.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Designed by a man named Alexander Paris. Does that sound familiar? Yes it does. He fun fact designed Boston's Quincy Market. I know that sounded familiar. When I was reading and I was like Alexander Paris, who why do I know that name? Is he I wonder if he's related to Reverend Samuel Paris from the Salem should. Should Google that. I should. I'm gonna look that up, because all of a sudden, I was like, wait a second. It's for in Boston.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Double R. It might be. Oh my gosh, imagine. I'll send it. I'll wait Paris. I'll send it, Hamilton. Samuel. Samuels.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Paris. Samuel. Paris. Are you bros? Are you related? Let's see. We're just on like ancestry.com. We're going to check. BRB.
Starting point is 00:56:27 All right. There is an Alexander Paris that is related to him. Okay. I'll look deeper into this and I'll let you know. Okay. Cool. Very interesting question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:37 So yeah, Alexander Paris built this light house and built more than just Boston Quincy's market. He built a few other things. He built some stuff. He was an architect, so things and some building. They do be building. But it wasn't until about like 20 years later that the Keeper's house was built right next to the lighthouse itself.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And before that, the keeper of the lighthouse would just sleep in the actual lighthouse itself. That's amazing. For me, I feel like that sounds like one of the scariest things ever. 100% it does. And not only because this place is haunted, but because it's literally just in the middle of the ocean
Starting point is 00:57:12 on a wall in desolate Asylens surrounded by scary rocks named execution rocks. Yeah. I also just generally live by the rule that if there's like not a target nearby, it's not the homestead for me. And I doubt there's a target nearby. There wasn't, no. I don't think in 1849. No, really not. Yeah, I don't know. So you had to be like, it goes without saying, a brave ass human to decide to be the keeper of this lighthouse.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And because of the reputation of this area was like so haunted and fucking precarious. It was actually the first case in which the US Lighthouse board allowed the keeper to take the job without signing a contract. Wow. Yeah. The book Spookyest Lighthouses by Terence Zepke I think it is suggested that this was because quote, the only way to entice applicants was to let them know they could leave whenever they wanted. Oh my god! Like they were like, so we would love for you to stay and take care of this light house but we do understand that it is a desolate and scariest fuck and also a little bha-hanta. Little bha-hanta.
Starting point is 00:58:14 So you don't have to sign the dotted line. Like so you know what? You leave whenever you want. Yeah. You are not bound here. Yeah so they're, you're sitting there and you're like okay it's haunted but like why do they need the option to leave like whenever they yeah literally in the middle of the night Because this lighthouse is incredibly haunted
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Starting point is 01:03:22 Tata for now. Tata forever. And over the years, people just started saying that everyone on board was executed by the rocks. Oh, that's really creepy, but like really metal. Yeah, both. Yeah. Get you a rock who can do both. Yes, and they did, and they did the damn thing. I'm also like, I'm sure some of the hauntings
Starting point is 01:03:43 came from the sailors who lost their lives on the rocks. For sure. But sailors were not the only ones who lost their lives on the rocks. Rocks, man. Say rocks again. If these rocks could talk, rocks. Back in the day though, the British, they were like trying to avoid doing public executions because they didn't want to give the colonists another reason to be all pissed off at them. Yeah, of course. So they decided on this other totally humane way to, you know, execute those who had broken the law. And it involves rocks. And it involves rocks.
Starting point is 01:04:09 And it's super humane. Yeah. They would bring the criminals to the rocks surrounding the island during low tide. Chain them to said rocks. See where this is going. And leave them there to wait until the tide would come in and eventually drown them. Slowly. Yeah, oh.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Did you buy it? I want to know how slow. Yeah. The whole process of them being drowned would take 10 to 12 hours. Why? They would just slowly watch that water rise. Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And the tide would keep going in and out, so it would get a little bit closer, maybe cover your waist, and then go back out again, and then coming even more, and you're starting to swallow water, so you're drowning as slow as humanly possible. Curly, so that's not humane. Curly's that- It is not humane. That is not.
Starting point is 01:04:59 You are incorrect. It was torturous. And if the whole process itself wasn't torturous enough, they, like some people said that they would apparently leave the bodies of the previously executed people there. Just still chain to the rocks. I believe that. In order to just scare the next batch of criminals
Starting point is 01:05:15 that would be brought to their final rest. Yeah, please. Like this is what you have to look forward to. Yeah. So people who lived nearby would hear the men like screaming from the beaches. Oh, God. And it went all hours of the men screaming from the beaches. Oh, God. And it went all hours of the night.
Starting point is 01:05:27 And still to this day, people report hearing screams coming from the island in the area of those rocks. Ah! Yeah, like that. Yeah, like that. Just like that. Louder, though. That was like not even in my control.
Starting point is 01:05:42 No, that scream was. That just came out. That's all I had. That was an involuntary movement. Just then. Yeah, I don't like it. That's like... That's really gnarly.
Starting point is 01:05:50 The most. That's very gnarly. You think that's gnarly too? I do, I'm gonna... I'm, yes. It is gnarly. Yeah. But we're gonna introduce the character that you know.
Starting point is 01:06:00 So I know that I love... No. Okay. I hope not at least. Oh no. Okay, so according to that book that I mentioned earlier, Spookyest Lighthouses. Spooky.
Starting point is 01:06:08 There was this psychic and I know how you feel, but like I think she was on to something. All right, hey, some of them are. Yeah. She visited the lighthouse on one occasion and she said she felt the spirit of a quote, aggravated male. Oh, there was an aggravated male energy in the air.
Starting point is 01:06:21 It was a devilish. Exactly. It was like, yeah. You could just say that. You could say that I like a Tedesque. There's an aggravated male energy in the air. It's a devil-y for. Exactly. You could just say that. You could say that at like a tidesque. There's an aggravated male. Yeah. So looking into the history of the lighthouse
Starting point is 01:06:31 and the area surrounding it, a lot of people have come to the conclusion that that man could be someone we've talked about on the show before, one Carl Pan's Ram. Stop. Because he used the ocean surrounding the island to dispose of a good amount of people that he had murdered. Yes, when you said execution rock, for some reason, I remember being like,
Starting point is 01:06:54 why do I know that? But it just wasn't ringing a bell. He would literally throw the bodies like a hundred yards away from the lighthouse. Holy shit. Yeah. Carl. Freaking Carl.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Pan's Ram. Pan. Holy shit. Yeah. Carl. Freaking Carl. Pan's... Ram. Pan's... Mania. Yeah. Some people are like, okay, it could be Carl definitely. I mean, he was an aggravated male.
Starting point is 01:07:13 He was an angry spirit. It's one way to describe him. So, they're like, it could be Carl, or it could be one of the people who Carl murdered and then disposed of in the area. Yeah. And interestingly enough, people who stayed at the lighthouse say that they feel pressure on their chests, especially in the living room of the house, I guess. And Carl Panzerim did strangle a few of his victims.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yep. So I wonder if that could have something to do with it. Oh, if Carl's just hanging out there, just like hurting people still. I mean, I fully believe that he would do so. At 100%. Or it could even be the feeling of not being able to breathe because of all the people who drowned. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:48 So while the Coast Guard was running and caring for the lighthouse before it became automated. Automated. Boo to automated light. Yeah, it's like, come on. I want it to be a little more. We need an old wily keeper. We do.
Starting point is 01:08:00 That's who we need. So while they were still caring for it, some members of the Coast Guard who spent the night there Said that the alarms would go off all the time and they couldn't figure out why and they could never find a source for it But there were actually two fires that took place in the history of the lighthouse So I kind of feel like maybe it's the lighthouse itself just trying to keep everybody on their toes. Yeah, it's just like hey you wake Hey, are you up beyond alert? Hello, Justin Case. So if you are like brave enough to spend the night at execution rocks like house,
Starting point is 01:08:28 and you know, maybe you want to experience something funky, you can spend the night. Okay. You can spend the night. It doesn't really sound like a very luxurious experience, so like keep that in mind. Keep that in mind. If you're someone like me, when booking your stay.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Yeah, you have to take, I've saw some people say that the boat ride was 25 minutes and other people say 45. So obviously it just depends on where you're taking your boat from. Yeah. But you have to be able to like, enter that boat ride, be able to climb a ladder onto the island itself. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:57 It's literally like you like, like you like, like, you pull up. Yes, like you pull up in your boat and then you have to like, reach over to the ladder and study yourself and climb onto the island Whoa, yeah, like no, thank you and then if you want to go into like the lighthouse This way you can do so. There's a tiny little passageway that connects the lighthouse to the keeper's house
Starting point is 01:09:19 So you can go through there I Want to do that so bad. But I have seen it recommended in literally every source of the lighthouse that you have to wear closed toe shoes. You have to. I mean, that makes sense. Also be aware that there's no running water.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Okay, I hate that. You also need to be prepared to spend the night on a cot if you are spending the night. I mean, all that sounds pretty terrible. It does, so I would like to make you aware that day trips are also available. Okay, I was gonna ask that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I was like, I would like to do a day trip. Yeah, maybe you're too scared of the hauntings or maybe you're like me and you're too scared of the lack of running water. Yeah, see, that's where I'm out. Like, that's where I've checked out of this whole thing, but like, I'll go at night and do like a ghosty tour and then be like, bye.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And I think you can. I thought that they did like this cool, like Halloween boat ride around the area. Yeah, it was fun. So you can do a day trip, you can do a night trip, you can just do as you please. It's not that far either. But please also be aware that according to visitalltheplaces.com, there are cannibalistic seagulls that live on the island, and there are apparently bird bones all over the place. And this source visitalltheplaces.com had pictures, like, and there were bones everywhere. Oh, seagull bones, just everywhere.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Okay, I mean, as, as not a seagull, I feel okay with that. Like, I'm like, I don't want, I'm, I'm sorry, seagulls, but I feel okay. What if they become like, what if they branch out? Yeah, what if they branch out? I'm just like, I'm sick of my own. What if they eat too many seagulls and then there's none left
Starting point is 01:10:46 and then they have to start eating them at the torus? I mean, I mean bring a parasol, I suppose. Yeah, and just whoop whoop. Choo, choo, choo. Get out of here. That's our sounds of fighting off seagull. You're whoop whoop whoop whoop. And that's it.
Starting point is 01:11:01 So that's execution rock slide, dude. Damn, I wanna to go there. Yeah, it was recommended a lot in the folder where we have it in the Gmail, but nobody had any experiences there. Really? So if you have had an execution rocks experience, I would love to hear about it. Tell us because we're going to go there at some point. Yeah, long silence.
Starting point is 01:11:20 It's not that far at all. How many fucking times have you been to Long Island? Long Island. I love a family on Long Island. Long Island. I love Long Island. I love Long Island. Hi cousins. Hello cousins. I know.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I know who you are. I hope. Imagine if somebody was like, I'm your cousin. I'm, whoa. 23 in me. I mean, yeah. I know my cousins, okay. I know my cousins.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I know most of them. I know them. I know them. I know them whenever. Cousins, you know what I mean? Cousins. It's losing all meaning. It is.
Starting point is 01:11:47 It's like rocks. They're rocks again. So my next lighthouse is Wood Island Lighthouse, and it's in Asako Bay, Maine. Oh, okay. We're staying on the east coast. I like it. Yeah, I didn't even do that on purpose. These are places we can easily go to.
Starting point is 01:12:00 I like that. We could. So this lighthouse and Keepers home, they were built in 1808 by Benjamin Beale and Duncan Thaxter. Yep. I believe that. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I'm for that.
Starting point is 01:12:11 You were born to build things. Yeah. Lighthouses especially. Or maybe not. Oh. The original lighthouse was about 45 feet tall and it stood next to the Keepers house, which was so fucking small.
Starting point is 01:12:23 I was gonna say. When it was first built, it was a one-story home with measurements of 17 by 26 feet. That's tiny. That's a tiny, that's like all you people out there that want tiny homes. Here you go. That's tiny small. That's tiny small. Close quarters if you will. Yeah, you got to be real friendly with whoever you live with. Hopefully you just live so low, no low. Yeah. So the lighthouse itself actually had to be rebuilt multiple times. I feel like a lot of them have to.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Yeah, I mean, it makes sense because they're built in like the 1800s and then next to the sea, which is like that sea is gonna eat that. Oh, it's a good thing. That's how the sea rolls. Yeah, but this one was built like horribly. The original builder's work was really bad. And then the second build was somehow worse than the first.
Starting point is 01:13:06 And just left plaster dripping into the ocean. Cool, we're learning from our mistakes. We are, we are totally. Finally, in about 1854, we did learn from our mistakes. Cool. Because that's when the final build took place. And in the rebuild, they actually attached the keeper's house to the lighthouse with a covered walkway.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Ooh. So it's very luxurious. I know. It's for lighthouse vibes. And eventually in the 1900s, a second story was added to the Keepers House. Look at that. We're moving up. I know. Luckily, the builder in 1854 knew what he was doing because it was the last time what island lighthouse needed to be restructured. Oh. And today, it's known as the second oldest lighthouse in Maine. Oh, we love to see it. I know, maybe the next, I don't know if this one is haunted,
Starting point is 01:13:51 but it is the oldest in Maine. Portland headlight. Oh, I've heard that, yeah. Yeah, so hopefully it's haunted. I'm assuming that's haunted. We'll look into it right in if you think it is. Yeah, have you been there? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:02 So throughout the years, the lighthouse has had more than 200 keepers. Whoa. But one of the most famous keepers, I said famous. It's hard, it's hard. Yeah. One of the most famous keepers. It's famous. Is Thomas Orkut, Orkut, Orkut? And he served as keeper from 1886 to 1905. Wow, look at him. Turned to the century. He started almost 80 years after the Lighthouse was originally built and he moved on to the island with his little dog, Sailor. Yeah, he did. He did. And in 1873, a fog bell tower was built near the Lighthouse, and a 1300 pound bell was placed inside. Damn. Thomas's dog, Sailor, somehow learned to ring the bell for himself.
Starting point is 01:14:45 And even though there was an automated way for the bell to ring, Sailor was like us, and he was like, I'd like to keep it old school, please. Yeah. And he was like, I'm working in the Slight House. He became the famous bell ringer. Oh my God, stop. That's precious. Any time a ship would pass and sound off, Sailor would do the same in return.
Starting point is 01:15:01 That's precious. Yeah. Oh my God, can you imagine if you sound off when you come in and hear that bell ring, and you're like, thanks, Sailor. It's Sailor would do the same in return. That's precious. Oh my god can you imagine if you like sound off when you come in You hear that bell ringing you like thanks sailor. It's sailor. He became famous. They were like multiple newspaper articles about it. I know. Good for sailor. I know. Got it man. So Thomas Orca was still serving as the keeper in the late 1890s When the island's most famous tragedy took place. Uh-oh, so I'm gonna tell you a little story. Tell me a story. In 1896, there were two 24-year-old guys living in a shack
Starting point is 01:15:30 on the opposite side of the island. It was a pretty big island. The shack was really supposed to be used as like a den for hens, but the man who owned the structure, Frederick Millican, knew that these two men named Howard Hobbes and William Moses were just like having hard time. So he was like, you know what? Why don't you just live there, just pay me like a small amount and rent and like just
Starting point is 01:15:51 don't be dicks. Don't be dicks, right? Yeah, truly all I have to ask. And Frederick was like a business kind of guy. He was an officer and also a game warden. And he lived on the island in his own home. Now his home in the little shack where where Hobbes and Moses lived, those were the only two buildings on the island, other than the lighthouse and the keeper's house. And like I said, they were on
Starting point is 01:16:11 opposite sides of the 35 acre island. Oh, so this is fucking huge. Yeah. So on Sunday, May 31st, 1896, William and Howard had spent the day drinking at Old Orchard, which is hilarious because that was going on in 1896 and is still happening It's gonna say it doesn't feel different like I've gone drinking at a little snapshot. I know weird I'm like that's crazy So they got to that point where their drinking was making them act to fool and at one point the sheriff in Old Orchard Actually detained them. Oh, they're really actually. Oh, they were actually fool with a
Starting point is 01:16:47 capital F. Yeah. So the sheriff detained them and they're like, we're going to put you in the drunk tank if you don't get your shit together. Yeah. Somehow they were able to convince the sheriff that they would like clean their act up. But fine. But they didn't. No. They spent the night in Old Orchard and spent most of the next day in Old Orchard as well drinking the day away. Oh, I feel sick just listening to this. I know, honestly, but they probably at that point needed like some hair of the dog.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Yeah. So by the late afternoon, they were ready to make their way back home. They hopped in their small boat and they headed toward Wood Island. And when they got back to the island, they ran into their landlord, Frederick Milliken. And they owed him some money. And they're acting a fool. And they're acting a fool. And they're acting a fool, which is of no interest.
Starting point is 01:17:28 To Frederick. No, no, no. I'm not interested. I'm not interested. So they passed by and Milliken told Howard Hobbs that he needed to speak with him later on. I think William Moses seemed to be doing our right with his rent, but it was really Howard Hobbs.
Starting point is 01:17:40 That was like not killing it with the rent game. Come on Hobbs. Yeah, it's like don't keep buying beer. You're not okay for your hand, Den. Yeah. Okay. You sure do. So Hobbs and Moses acknowledged Milliken and they were like,
Starting point is 01:17:51 yeah, we'll be out in just a minute. Like we're just gonna go pee, I guess. We're gonna go do those things. Yeah. So first they wanted to drop off their stuff at home and Hobbs wanted to grab his rifle so that they could do some bird hunting. So Moses knew that Hobbes had been drinking all day and he was still pretty drunk. So he was like, maybe you should like leave
Starting point is 01:18:10 that gun behind because you're like shit faced. Yeah. And Hobbs was like, I'm fine. Direct quote. It is. I took that from a newspaper. Yep. You delivered it beautifully. Thank you so much. You're welcome. I worked on it. I knew you did I could tell and he's tough He took his rifle with him. He did after his war on Yeah, of course he did he wasn't gonna leave that rifle He said it. I heard it playing his day. He did. He said I'm taking this with me Yeah, and then he said I'm gonna hunt some birds. Yeah, so they walk back over to our millikens place and he notices the gun And he's like is that loaded because he's like you're not in any position to be carrying around a load of guns.
Starting point is 01:18:45 And he's like, I have a little fucking terrifying right now. Yeah. So Hobbs got within arm's reach as he told Milliken that the gun was not loaded, but Milliken was like, let me see that for myself and started to grab the gun away from him. And that was not great.
Starting point is 01:19:01 He reached forward. And as he did so, Hobbs picked up the gun and this is a rifle. Yeah. Picked up the gun, does whatever he does with it, and shot Millican, point blank in the chest. Oh no Hobbs. And Millican's wife had been standing in the doorway the entire time. No. So she, her son and William Moses were now witnesses to a crime. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪
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Starting point is 01:21:14 Oh no! So Mrs. Milliken goes, it gets her husband and carries him inside and gets him settled because he's still breathing at this point. Oh my God. And she hasn't lay down and she sends William Moses to get a doctor, but he has to like row to another island to get a doctor. Oh, fuck. To another land to get a doctor.
Starting point is 01:21:35 And she tries to get the gun away from Howard Hobb. She's like, you gotta stop, like, get that out of here. You gotta stop shooting people. Please. So he gets mad and he threatens to shoot her too if she touches his gun. He's like, I don't want her touching my gun. And apparently at this point,
Starting point is 01:21:51 Frederick raised his head, Frederick Billocken, and was like, she's never done anything to you. Like you leave her alone. Oh, what, you know, a man. Yes, he's like dying from a gunshot. Look at him. He's just like, no, what? Leave my wife alone.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Yeah, you dick. You actual asshole. So instead of escalating the situation more, Mrs. Milliken looks at Howard and she's like, go get the lighthouse keeper. Like we need somebody to come help. And remember, this is Thomas Orkut. I was like, what? She sent him the guy who did it. She is. She's like, I don't know if he's sending me away. Thomas is fine to work. I don't know, okay, cool. So back then, light keepers. Lighthouse keepers were actually in charge a little bit.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Like they held some kind of authority. Yeah. So Thomas Orkut needed to be aware that a man had just been shot on the island. Yeah, that's a big deal. So as soon as Hobbes released the story to Orkut, the two men run back over to Millican's home, but they learned that he had died while they were on their way back.
Starting point is 01:22:46 And as soon as he heard Howard Hobbs rushed back with his shotgun and toe, or not a shotgun is rifle and toe, sits on his couch and his hand then writes down a letter, saying that he's doing what he's about to do, and he shoots one shot into his right temple. Oh, so when the police arrive on scene, Mrs. Milliken explained the whole situation
Starting point is 01:23:07 and told him, told the police the only reason her husband wanted to speak with Mr. Hobbs was because he hadn't paid his rent in a while and there was no sign that any of this would have happened. No, of course not. So these days, people who visit Wood Island claim that they hear shouting voices and they can hear them from the lighthouse and they will also see dark figures appear out of nowhere
Starting point is 01:23:31 and vanish without a trace. And a lot of people have come to the conclusion that the island is being haunted by Frederick Milliken and Howard Hobbs. Yeah, of course. Now I believe it. So like that's the end of that story. Just ended really tragically. Yeah, that's like farmer. And now they're haunting the island. Yeah, of course. I believe it. So that's the end of that story. Just ended really tragically. Yeah, that's like, fummer.
Starting point is 01:23:46 And now they're haunting the island. Yeah, they are. And now, apparently, there's some like, wily mischievous ghosts. Yeah. Or other people are. Because during some restoration of the Keepers' Home and the Lighthouse itself, the people working
Starting point is 01:23:59 on the project would lose their tools or just misplace different things and then find them somewhere totally random and they were like, I definitely didn't put that there. That's wily. It is wily. Yeah. And a set of keepers once thought that they had lost
Starting point is 01:24:12 a bunch of wax pencils that they needed to post weather updates. Oh yeah. And they found an entire batch of them just hidden in a storage room. I just hid them. I love that they're just hiding things. I was like, I feel like Howard Hobbs
Starting point is 01:24:24 is like getting Litty Titty in the afterlife. You can just do it in this for a long. One hundred percent. And like maybe Frederick Milligan is like, it's okay, like I'll help you hide this. I'm a broad in the afterlife. You can grow out after you murdered me, after getting drugs.
Starting point is 01:24:36 It's blood, I know. For no reason, after just getting drunk for two days, literally, on Orchard Beach. And I think he was drunk like all the time, this time. It sounds like it. It does. So one night some of the crew working on these restoration, they thought it would be a good night. your beach and I think he was drunk like all the time. Yeah. He was ton. Right. It sounds like it.
Starting point is 01:24:46 It does. So one night some of the crew working on these restoration, they thought it would be a good night, a good idea if they just spent the night on location because it was kind of a long drive for them. Of course. They were like, we don't want to have to drive the next morning. No. But they were up all night hearing different voices and they heard the shouting and they started
Starting point is 01:25:02 hearing people running throughout the building. But like they would wake up and all of them would be accounted for and they'd look around and no one would be there. And like running. So they were like, no, like we are leaving. And legend has it, they are not the only people who heard voices in the building. Apparently, and I couldn't find anything to validate this, but it's a fun haunted thing. Yeah. Well, it's not fun. But there was once a keeper who was also driven so crazy by all the voices that he was hearing, so he jumped off the roof of the lighthouse to his death. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Legend has it. Legend has it. And that is Wood Island lighthouse. Damn. Damn. Wow, we hit some good lighthouses this time. We really did. And I'm so like I was like there was a couple that I wanted to put on my list but then this would have been like 400 years long. Exactly. So I'm already ready for the next one. Oh and now we can just keep going with them. Exactly. This is so much fun. And I
Starting point is 01:25:57 would love to open up the next one with a tale about one of the lighthouses we talked about today. Yeah. So if you have been to Wood Island lighthouse execution rocks lighthouseution Rocks Lighthouse, or St. Augustine Lighthouse, let us know about your experience. Yeah, and keep sending any of them in, because we also, like, we did today, we opened up with one we're doing today, and one that we've already done, and it's really cool to have that, like, it's fun, interconnected in there. So this has been awesome. And you can send those to morbidpodcast at gmail.com and
Starting point is 01:26:25 just put like light house or spooky light house in the in the subject. I was like, what's the problem? Anything with just to make sure we know it's a light house thing. Yeah. And then we can pick it out pretty easily and it's easier just to like organize that way. Yeah. But you guys have been awesome. We're excited to make this a spooky week. I am like, I'm living in the spooky zone. Oh, fully in the spooky mood right now. I feel like I can like hear it in my own voice. I think, you know what I think happens? This happens to me every year.
Starting point is 01:26:51 What? We get closer to June when like summer's about to begin. And I feel more and more like I need fall. Yeah. It's like as soon as June hits, I'm like, okay, well I'm over this, I want fall. Yeah. And I'm already in that mode of like,
Starting point is 01:27:04 we're nearing summer and I want fall. I also want fall, so, but I'm over this, I want fall. Yeah, and I'm already in that mode of like, we're nearing summer and I want fall. I also want fall, so, but I can smell it. It's coming. It's, yeah. It's coming, for sure. It's a few months, it's not that far away. I mean, a few months, it will be summer, but yeah. It's four months, till pre-october.
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