Murder & Magnolias - “Bluegrass Needs Another Benjamin”

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

Lovers on the line in jailhouse phone calls reveal new clues. Then, a big arrest. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sometimes, in moments of crisis, it's instructive to look back in time to think a new about the old family stories we once found so amusing. Like the night of the Shrine Dance in Conway, South Carolina, way back in 1988. Family stories have a way of fusing fact and fiction together after a few dozen telling and this is one of those. It was getting late, the story goes, and Chris was getting antsy. He'd wanted to speak with Nancy's father, but he knew the timing needed to be right. When he finally saw his chance, Chris asked O'Neal Cannon to step outside.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And he said, Mr. Cannon, I would like to propose to your daughter and I want to ask for her hand in marriage. And my dad said, well, son, I got something to tell you first. With Followed was a long story about Nancy and a squabble she'd once had with her brother Neil when they were kids, Something about a backyard baseball game. Anyway, this is how Nancy tells it. He said, when Nancy was a little girl, she and her brother were playing ball in the backyard. So whoever was catching was calling the strikes her balls.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And Nancy happened to be catching. And when she called her brother out on a strike, he got so mad, he took the aluminum baseball bat in his hand and slammed it down on her hand that was on the ground as she was catching. And he said, oh, Nancy screamed. What Chris was thinking as he listened to Nancy's father way back then, we cannot know. But listen, he did. The light as any supplicant would be, But listen, he did. The light as any supplicant would be, as the story went on and on. Until O'Neill Cannon said this.
Starting point is 00:01:51 In the middle of the night, I hear Neil screaming at the top of his lungs, and I run to his bedroom, and I see Nancy was standing on top of the bed, straddling Neil, and she had an aluminum baseball bat, and she was swinging it like Paul Bunyan chopping wood. He said, and I grabbed her and pulled her off of him, and she still threw the bat at his head.
Starting point is 00:02:18 According to Family Lore, Chris stood there slack-jawed, as Nancy's father got to the point. And he said, well, son Nancy's father got to the point. He said, well, son, I'm going to let you marry her, but I am going to tell you, if you ever hit her, don't go to sleep. And that was the prequel to our marriage. Rather appropriate, don't you think? I definitely think. In this episode, you'll hear from the man now on the receiving end of Nancy's metaphorical
Starting point is 00:02:45 bat, Chris Latham. Nancy tried to break into my home. You'll hear two lovebirds, the ledged, conspirators, cuing on a recorded line. I think of you. Eric Stachon. I think of you. I think of you. I think I'm doing what I agree with you every time I talk about that.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And you'll hear how one of the plotters suddenly died behind bars taking crucial secrets to the grave. He's so volatile and knowing that he was probably going to spend a good portion of the rest of his life in prison. I think he just pushed him out of the edge. I'm Keith Morrison and this is episode four of Murder and Magnolias, the podcast from Deepline. Every day they queueed up beside the telephones.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Women all dressed in the same baggy prison scrubs, unflattering gray and white horizontal stripes. An observer in the women's section of the Al-Canon detention center in Charleston would have noticed a tall blonde standing by the phones. She was almost always there, either on the phone or waiting for one. Hello, good call, it's Tom. What's your call? I'm in the way, Dad. Charles and Carl didn't come to spend there.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Though her collect calls to the outside were limited to 15 minutes, Wendy made dozens of them. Anyone standing within Earshot would have known. She was speaking to a lover who was on the outside. I can't wait to wrap a shoe when I get back. I can't write it back. No, yes, the intensity of young love. But truth be told, when the enter banker boyfriend were decidedly middle-aged.
Starting point is 00:04:39 You're me together. Yes, I'm me and you, Chris. Yes, I'm me and so is Chris. Well, it wasn't just you and me and Jesus. As the agents heard again and again, it may have sounded like a summer of frustrated love. Said Joe Boykin. But it wasn't just that. Oh no, plans were afoot. Many of them were, uh,
Starting point is 00:05:07 their affection for one another, uh, in graphic detail. But all sounsings. Kind of. In essence, yes. Yes. But the other part was, I would use the word, they're conniving and scheming with one another.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Playground, speak another pension. I know. The life I know. Translation? A lawyer in Kentucky needed another $50,000 to defend Sammy Yena wine. It seemed Chris Latham was somehow covering the legal costs of the to kill his wife. Wendy and Chris basically collaborated to get Wendy's two parents to foot the bill for Sammy Yunawhan's lawyer. And why would they do that? So Sammy wouldn't roll.
Starting point is 00:06:04 As far as the agents could tell, Chris Latham was doing all he could in those phone calls to keep Wendy close. After all, she was the one in jail for alleged they plotting to have Chris's wife killed and the agents were sure, she knew things Chris would not want revealed. I'm calling the double-band plan. Chris would not want revealed. Of course Nancy knew nothing about those calls, but what she did know was in the weeks after the foiled murder plot became front page news, her husband had not lifted a finger to contact his own daughters.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Not a word of shock or dismay or a pledge of innocence. Nothing. Not a peep. Not a text. Not an email. Nothing. Not a friend reaching out to the girls. Not a friend of his. Not a friend reaching out to the girls, not a friend of his, not a
Starting point is 00:07:05 relative of his. Nobody to say, are you okay? Are you safe? Are you, I can't believe this is happening, I want to make sure you're safe. Not one single person reached out to my children from teen Chris. During those long months, Nancy had plenty of time to think about the arc of their love affair. What had happened to the young man she fell in love with at first sight? I just really felt like, gosh, this guy is going to be a great daddy. And what had happened to her?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Their divorce had seemed to have brought out the worst in both of them. Even Nancy's divorce attorney could see that. He said, you are letting this divorce change you. You are letting Chris and his attorney turn you into a mean spirited person. He said, you need to get back to who you are. Because you can't let somebody else change you. Nancy knew it was true, but in those bitter months before the hit-packet surfaced, as she just hadn't been able to stop. She couldn't stop collecting evidence of her husband
Starting point is 00:08:12 affair, couldn't stop throwing zingers his way at depresitions, couldn't pass up an opportunity to shame him. I was becoming maniacal, like an evil villain who's so excited that, you know, I've put the laser beams on the shark's head. I mean, I was Dr. Evil. I was so excited that I was hurting him and it was just making me so happy. Things got so bad at one point, Chris sent a memo with her photo to the bank security officers, instructing them to evict
Starting point is 00:08:45 her if she entered bank property for a non-banking purpose. Or if she started making a scene, which she did frequently. So I went to my local bank of America to cash a check or do something at the teller window, which was always when I would try to find that opportunity to get a dig in. Like, oh, my husband, Chris Latham works here. Have you slept with him? And during one of those days of the bag, she bumped into a woman she knew sitting in the lobby.
Starting point is 00:09:19 The woman's name was Coco. And she said, your husband works here, right? And I said, yes, he does. And he slept with so many people here. That's why we're getting a divorce. And she said, like, wait, why are you getting a divorce? Because you're so nice. And I said, because my husband has been having sex
Starting point is 00:09:42 with so many people who work at the bank. And she said at this bank, I said, all the banks, all the bank of America's. He's just throwing it out like men said at a Christmas parade. And Coco was like, oh my God, tell me more. So of course, my voice is now escalating and I'm talking very loudly. And I said, oh, by the way, one of the women he's sleeping with just happens to be married to one of the guys who works right here in this branch. That was a kind of nonsense that I was doing just to make his life difficult for fun. All that was before she learned about the plan to have her killed.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Before she had her girls went into hiding before anybody was arrested. Just Nancy making Chris' life difficult. There was another night when she drove by Chris' beach house and noticed Wendy's Durango parked in the drive. Nancy decided to take a quick picture as further documentation for divorce case. So I'm at the edge of the road at Sullivan's Island and I'm taking a picture of her car in the driveway. And when I hit the button, I guess a flash on this disposable camera had gone off because all of a sudden it was, you know, that loud kind of pwf, that pop of flash.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And I thought, oh crap. So as I'm walking around the car to get back in the driver's side, I see Chris come out the house with his boxers on no shirt and he's carrying a flashlight of all things and he's following me like he's making a beeline for the car. And I thought, I'm not gonna drive away. I'm gonna seize this opportunity to just get one more dig in.
Starting point is 00:11:34 So I rolled down the window, the tiniest crack and I said, don't mind me, just taking pictures because I thought that is gonna irritate him more than anything else, right? That kind of yay, yay, yay, taking pictures. And I drive off and I'm just kind of giggling to myself at my awesomeness. That's the way it is sometimes with ugly divorces. Competent mature adults regress. Let loose their inner 10-year-old. The giggling didn't last long. The very next day Nancy learned that Chris had filed a trespassing complaint against her with the Sullivan's Island police.
Starting point is 00:12:14 The someone said he was seeking a protection order from Nancy. So, next thing you know, there's a police officer at my door and he's like, I have a warrant for you. You have to be in court for X-Day. Not so funny now. That's he didn't like the direction her little photo-escapated taken. A possible trespassing rap. Wouldn't look so good for her in divorce court.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So I called my sister-in-law Kelly, who's an attorney, and I just said, girl, you got to help me. And she said, okay, I'll have a conversation. She calls the courthouse, she talks to the clerk of court, they're like, yeah, we get it, divorce, people are crazy. Sure, let's wait until they're divorced and then we'll hash this out. Chris Latham of course was not at all ready to let it slide. He had juice in the Charleston area. In time, the clerk of the court on Sullivan's Island was feeding the heat to get Nancy's
Starting point is 00:13:11 trespassing case on the docket. Months had passed and every day, Chris Latham was calling saying, I don't understand why why haven't we had our day in court. I don't understand why she is an arrested. He was calling in favors. He was calling everybody who knew the judge. He knew all the movers and chakers and was one himself. So if anybody could pull strings to make this happen, it was him. In the end, an initial hearing of Nancy's case was put on the court calendar just six days before their divorce case was scheduled to begin. Nancy hired a lawyer and showed up on time for the late afternoon hearing. So Sullivan's island was renovating their courthouse. So they had a little trailer off at the side is where they were holding court. And when you walk into the trailer, you are in the
Starting point is 00:14:00 courthouse. Like you are, you see the judge sitting at a table up front. There are a ton of chairs. My soon-to-be ex-husband sitting on a row, so we go and sit right behind him just for fun, because that's, you know, any time I can get like a little bit of irritation in there. As Nancy had her lawyer, a man named Rutledge waited. They made small talk weekend plans. Nancy remembers telling him she might go to her dad's place. As they talked, Nancy noticed her husband sitting right in front of her furiously tap tap tap tapping on his phone. But she didn't notice, as court was called to order. Chris used his phone to snap photos of her. Well, the judge said, you know, who would like a jury trial?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Retlite grabs some arm, stands me up, we do, sir. And the judge said, okay, you're going to have a jury trial. Come back, X-Day. Retlite just like yes, sir. Thank you so much. So once we say we want a jury trial, Chris Latham jumps up, you can see he's so irritated and he starts walking to the door as fast as he can. And I was like, well, there you go. I guess I won. I've irritated the Pajesis out of him.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Is she in her lawyer headed out, said Nancy? They noticed that Chris was standing by the door, still tap-tapping on his phone. As we walk up, he said, here, let me get that. And he pushes the door open for us. We walk out. And as we're walking down, Rutledge said, well, that was my need, consider it. And I kind of look back, and there's Chris watching us walk away. What was Chris Latham looking at?
Starting point is 00:15:43 Who had he been texting or emailing? Nancy had no idea. At the time. Only later, when she saw the hit-backed, sprayed across Cathy Harrow's kitchen table, did she notice that the date and time of that court hearing was scribbled on the pages? So was her father's home address. At Chris Latham somehow been communicating with the hit team that day? Hard to say, but if he was, he was out of luck. The hitman, Samyeno wine, had returned to Louisville. Is that why Nancy survived?
Starting point is 00:16:37 It was another restless night for Nancy Latham. She had so many since the plot on her life was uncovered, tossing and turning. The clock radio's red numerals seemed to mock her, as she counted down the hour still, daylight. She flipped the pillow to the cool side and tried to drift off. But no, her mind kept turning, recycling the same old thoughts. She still couldn't fathom it. Her husband had actually wanted her dead.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Did he still? Had he hired someone else? Someone who might be out there beyond the window, watching, waiting for a clean shot. Chris had so much money that that was our thought during that time frame. Wendy's already arrested. Sammy's arrested, Aaron's arrested. What kind of evidence are they going to turn over? And so does he feel like I don't have anything else to lose if they arrest me? Should I go ahead and line something up now? And I think that was the fear. Oh, there was plenty of fear. Remember Sammy Yena wine, the original assassin contracted to kill Nancy? Two months after being brought to South Carolina to stand trial, he was found hanging in his jail cell.
Starting point is 00:17:53 At Sami lived, he might have named names, might have since the case for prosecutors, but no, he'd taken those secrets to the grave. Though some did wonder if Sami's death had really been a suicide. Sammy's wingman, Aaron Wilkinson, said he never doubted it. I knew that he killed himself. He's just, he's so volatile, I think, with the knowledge he was probably going to spend a good portion of the rest of his life in prison, I think he just pushed him out of the edge. Through all of this, Chris Latham remained a free man.
Starting point is 00:18:33 The agents had collected plenty of circumstantial evidence implicating him, but prosecutors were reluctant to green light and arrest. I felt like we really needed to make sure that we had all the evidence before we went in. That's the voice of Bill Nettles, the US Attorney for South Carolina at the time. It was his office it would have to prosecute the case. I was a criminal defense lawyer before I took this job and I knew that if we were to charge him and the forensic evidence wasn't back that that would make a cross examination about us rushing to judgment. Nope. The US attorney wanted to take his time across the
Starting point is 00:19:09 T's, dot the eyes and so on. Zagamble, of course. Chris Latham could flee, but Bill Nettles didn't think he would. I wasn't that worried about that because you know he really thought he was smarter than everybody else. When you've got a murder for hire, a part of the killing is how you're going to get away with it. That's part of the point. And believe you can get away with it. And believe you can.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And if you didn't believe you could get away with it, you wouldn't do it. Waiting, however, did carry a cost. ATF agents Boykin and Callahan wanted to compare the computer printouts from the hit package with the printers that Chris Latham and Wendy Moore had in their offices. But by the time they got a search warrant, those printers were gone. We interviewed numerous co-workers of Chris Latham and Wendy Moore who said without a doubt that they did in fact have printers located in their respective offices. ATF agent Bobby Callahan said they searched everywhere for those missing printers.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Even that rented house on Sullivan's Island. And we conducted a search warrant on their offices at the residents that they shared in common. And we did not recover those printers. Hmm, in the whole Bank of America building, two printers, Kristen Wendy's printers had gone missing and only those. Well, let's just say also in our investigation, we didn't undercover a rash of printer theft at US trust. That's Agent Joe Boykin.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Just a couple of missing ones. Just two particular ones. And Wendy Moore's laptop never recovered. They did find the printer logs though, and in there was gold. Buried deep in the computer data gibberish on the bank's central server, something akin to a smoking gun. I don't know that Chris Latham was the most computer savvy person in the world, and I don't know if he realized what was on those items. Printer log showing him from his computer and printer
Starting point is 00:21:10 printing out maps of Nancy Latham's residence that were in the hit package as well as the photograph that we recovered from Chris Latham's phone of Nancy Latham's residence and a vehicle which was also located in the hit package. Well, it was early August, four months after the murder plot was revealed, that a grand jury returned a criminal indictment against Chris Latham. And that afternoon, Agent Boykin called Nancy. He was on the road he told her and he needed a favor. If Chris wasn't in town, he asked, where might he be?
Starting point is 00:21:48 And she told me that they had regularly vacationed up on Lake Joe Cassell and stayed in Lake Houses up there. I said, I tell you what, give me a few minutes, let me see what I can find out. Nancy padded downstairs to the den, where Madison was noodling away on her computer. Bob your Facebook page, she said. Look at the children of your father's best friends. She did, and she said, what am I looking for? And I said anything about a vacation.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Well, one of the girls, one of the daughters happened to post on Facebook. We are at Lake Jo Cassie and a house built for 14 people. They are 21 of us. How are we going to make this work? Okay, good information. Thank you very much. And in that post, she had tagged Wendy Moore's children and his other friends' children.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Now, as you had a hunch, if all those kids were together in the same lake house, the odds were good that Chris Latham was there too. A quick Google search turned up a list of rental properties on Lake Jolkassia sprawling 7,000 Baker Lake near the North Carolina line. And only one rental claimed it could sleep 14 people. I called the owners of the house. And I said, I see that you have a house for rent on the lake.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Is there any way that I can go look at it right now? And they said, no, I'm so sorry, it's occupied. I said, okay, was there any way you could give me the address for the house so I can Google map it and see where it lays out on the lake? They said, absolutely, happy to give it to you. With Address in hand, Nancy called the agents back. Now I said, here's the address, and they said, how sure are you?
Starting point is 00:23:31 I said, I will not bet my children's life on it, but I'll happily bet mine. I said, I'm like 99.9%. They said, okay, we'll talk to you later. The agents were 150 miles from that big house unlike Jolkassi. That was a very long day. By the time the agents got to the lake,
Starting point is 00:23:51 teams of local law enforcement had been assembled at a nearby staging area, hoping to preserve the element of surprise. The agents' boykin and Callahan cracked up on the house, sometimes crawling through the woods and underbrush to get a closer look. We didn't want to just walk up and he not be there and tip our hand. Hanging out on the porch, the agents could see a half dozen teens standing around drinking beer. Out on the drive, they spotted Chris's big Ford excursion. Yes, he was there. So once we were able to verify he was inside the house,
Starting point is 00:24:27 we went down and encountered a young man outside the yard and told him who we were and why we were there and followed him into the residence. The house was built on the side of a hill that spoke down to the lake. Upscale rustic, you could call it. When the agent agents entered they found themselves on the second floor of a large indoor space. As agent Boykin looked over the railing down to the large-like living room below. He saw Chris Latham in
Starting point is 00:24:58 shorts and a t-shirt standing before a stone fireplace. Chris Latham looked right up at me, and all they could say was, you got to be kidding. It was at that moment, said Boykin, that the clouds opened up. Rain pounded on the roof as Chris Latham changed into a light blue long-sleeved t-shirt and jeans because he was going on a long ride back to Charleston.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Shortly after we had gotten Chris in the car and we're heading back to Charleston, we received a phone call from his attorney. And he advised us not to talk to him, not to ask him anything about the case. So we honored that request and we only told him if you need something to eat, if you need to use the bathroom, let us know and we'll bludge. It was slow going in the driving rain. The windshield wipers were he at full speed. At one point, Chris indicated he needed to make a rest stop and asked the agents to get a carton of chocolate milk. While Chris was inside with Agent Callahan, Joe Boykin dialed Nancy.
Starting point is 00:26:04 They called me, let me know that he was now arrested. He was in the car and they were headed to Charleston. And they said, and we want to thank you, because were it not for you, we would have never found your husband. We had no idea where it was. Sweet revenge? Oh yes. Even more so, when you consider it was. Sweet revenge? Oh yes.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Even more so when you consider it was after Midnight when Chris Latham finally walked into the Charleston County detention center to be booked on conspiracy charges, which meant the date was August 7th. Nancy's birthday. Best birthday present ever. Happy birthday to me. She slept well that night for the first time in months, said Nancy. And a few days later when she saw Agent Boykin, she thanked him again in person.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I said, why in the world would you think that I would be able to find Chris? And he looked me down the eye and he said, if you want to find a husband, call a pissed off wife. And I was just like, that is a great point. Yes! I mean, when a woman puts her mind to it, we can find just about anybody. Chris Latham was in a talkative mood when I spoke with him at the Charleston Detention Center. He addressed like the banker he used to be for our visit, Navy Blue Blazer, Powder Blue Dress shirt. Mr. Shrunk a little though, the clothes had been made for a bigger man.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I want to answer all your questions. No, whether I can or cannot. I've got you. Yeah, sitting in silence all this time is painful. He was in his early 50s when I met him, with Sandy Gray hair and sky blue eyes, and a soft southern voice that seemed designed to radiate calm. And I went my side of the story, uh, told as well. What do people not understand about you and your situation, but they should know? There's a lot, um, you know, everything that's going on is, it's been a media frenzy. There's only one side of this story,
Starting point is 00:28:25 there's been out there, and the media, in my opinion, has taken this, and I've been tried and convicted in the media long before this ever started. And what was Chris Latham's side of the story? Well, it begins with adultery. Nancy's adultery. At his divorce trial not been sidetracked by a certain murder plot.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Oh, said Chris, his legal team would have proved that in court. Yes, we had proof. What was your proof? Absolute proof. Well, number one is there were 9,355 phone calls. There were cloaking355 phone calls. There were cloaking numbers that they used that we proved. Also that various emails back and forth between her and her paramour.
Starting point is 00:29:14 POT, calling the kettle black? I asked him about those reports from Nancy's private eyes of a woman sneaking into his hotel room, staying all night. Well, that said Chris was a simple misunderstanding. of a woman sneaking into his hotel room, staying all night. Well, that said Chris was a simple misunderstanding. You're saying that's not true? No, I'm not saying that that's not true. We spent some time, um, do I need to get into this?
Starting point is 00:29:37 I don't want to get into weeds here. I mean, she makes a claim, you make a claim for me. I don't know which one is right. That person was being a friend. And so it goes. He said, she said, bitter access, squabbling over blame and pride in the size of the settlement package. Except in this case, all that was now moot.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Chris was in jail accused of trying to have his wife killed. What's it like to be accused of plotting to kill your wife? You know, I think it's horrible. It truly is. But I've been blessed with the people, friends, and family. They truly know me. It's been remarkable how they've stood beside me throughout all this time. And I feel truly blessed that they've done that. They know who I am.
Starting point is 00:30:20 They know that I would never even think, I have no desire, none whatsoever to harm Nancy. Never did. Never did. Must have been pretty mad for a while. You know, it's a civil thing. A divorce is a very common thing that people go through it. I just wanted to get to the other side. I don't think mind of worse was any uglier than a lot of divorces that take place out there. Maybe I had some characteristics of mind of worse that makes it more interesting for the media
Starting point is 00:30:52 and others to pay attention to, but divorces are awful for everyone. And what about his lover, Wendy Moore? Wendy number two. Did she conspire with her ex-husband, Sam Yena Wyne, to have Nancy killed? Chris was adamant, no, no, no, no. There's no incident whatsoever for Wendy
Starting point is 00:31:14 to warn a harm, you know, Nancy Latham. I mean, what's in it for her, I ask you. Well, what's in it for her? I mean, she can have you without you having to pay all the money, without you having to pay house payments, without you having all those financial obligations, and without you having that woman around who's been driving you crazy for years. Yeah. No. If anything, Wendy wanted this chapter closed. She was very supportive of trying to settle it without going to court to take the high road every single time, just to get this chapter closed in my life so that we could begin our chapter in our lives.
Starting point is 00:31:50 As far as any upside for winning, the one thing that we were waiting on, Keith, was my vindication, my vindication before my daughters. Vindication? Yes. According to Chris, a divorce trial would have proved that Nancy was the one who had cheated. Nancy, who had the affair, and caused the divorce. The charge, Nancy, has always denied. He had accused me of having an affair. He had accused me of flashing tires. And none of it was true. of flashing tires, and none of it was true. Truth?
Starting point is 00:32:25 Well, whatever the truth was, one thing was now crystal clear, even to crystalate them. He had no chance of getting a favorable ruling in a divorce court trial, not now, not with a murder for higher rap hanging over his head. So he settled. Since it seemed unlikely Nancy would ever be able to collect on an Alamony judgment, with Chris now out of work and looking at a lengthy prison stretch if convicted, the court awarded her a larger portion of the Latham Marital Estate. It was November 2013, less than four months after Chris's arrest, the Latham divorce case was finalized.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And that day, Nancy Latham reclaimed her maiden name. Cannon, that's a powerful name, right Cannon? Great name. The day that I got the divorce, the day that I got the divorce, I started going back cannon. She might be a cannon now, but Nancy would have to keep her powder dry, at least for the next three months. That was when her ex-husband and his girlfriend
Starting point is 00:33:31 would have to face the big guns from the Department of Justice and go on trial for plotting to have her killed. Next, on murder and magnolia is... I can say that I would never do anyone harm, especially not the mother of someone whose children were the same age as my kids went to school with my kids, who I was, you know, in love with their father, you know what I mean? I watched as Wendy turned around and smirked to her family and I remember Chris kind of got this look on his face like,
Starting point is 00:34:12 yeah, we're getting off. What was going on here in your head? And my head, I thought, oh my gosh, this is not good. This is not good. Murder and Magnolias is a production of Dateline and NBC News. Tim Beecham is the producer. Brian Drew is the audio editor. Thomas Kemen is assistant audio editor. Kiyadi Reed and Reese Washington are associate producers.
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