Murder With My Husband - 3. Murder in Room 1046 - Owen or Ogletree

Episode Date: April 26, 2020

Garrett and Payton Moreland are back with another exciting episode of Murder With My Husband. This episode is about an unsolved murder from 1935. Twists and Turns, eyewitnesses, and even people claiming they know what happened still can't solve this unnerving murder.  LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband Follow us on our social media channels: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband  Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yeah, I feel like I need to get like all my w press in and it just starts coming up. Yeah, I feel like I need to get all my wiggles out as soon as I press the button. No. Okay, well, hey everyone, welcome back to our podcast. I'm Peyton Moreland. And I'm Garrett Moreland. And this is Murder with My Husband. And I'm the husband.

Yeah. So I thought that we would start off by talking about some shows that we've been watching together or alone since we've been in quarantine. And so yeah, some shows that we've been watching together or alone since we've been in quarantine. And so yeah, a show that we've been watching together is lost. Yeah. But we kind of stopped. Yeah, we stopped after.

We were actually going pretty good. We were on season three. We were like two weeks in. Yeah. And I don't know what. It just keeps pouring. I've watched it before and I stopped around the same point. So I actually have never finished lost almost like you get repetitive. But I don't know. It gets a little funky.

But after last we started all American. But like I was saying to the day how you haven't watched any SVU or CSI? anything. Yeah, because I've watched all of them like. Yes, so literally. So many times. Send me a crime show I've watched it. Oh yeah, she. And so it's like she can. She can.

This? You should, she can repeat the law and order. Yeah. Um, what's it called? I don't know. The intro. The intro. The intro.

Yeah, I'll have to do that maybe another podcast. Wait, I think I can do it. Oh, okay, do it. Hold on. Pressures on. Let's go. If I can remember how it starts. Okay, go go. In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous in New York City. The dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felons are members of an elite squad known as the special victims unit. These are their stories. delicious felons are members of an elite squad known as the special victims unit. These are their stories. Mom. That's what I'm talking about. Oh, I thought that was the pause one. The pause?

It's that one. Which one is it? Oh, that's funny. The fail. You sure? Oh, that's funny. Yeah, that's just a hidden talent of watching every single season all 832 seasons of lot order I swear. It's pretty impressive actually. Yeah, so

The other night we were looking at places to go, you know to travel to oh, yeah I mean can't right now. Yeah, can't right now, but for the future. I know just dreaming You know looking up resorts and stuff and And we were looking at like, where were we looking? I was just looking in Mexico. Oh, Mexico. As just different resorts. Yeah. So I wanted to talk about hotels because I've had some not the best experiences in hotels.

What about you? What do you mean it's like? Just like staying in like, okay, if you think about it, like this scares me, you know, being a, you know, just obsessed with this kind of stuff, having, you know, the fact that I'm sleeping, which is your most vulnerable state, I'm sleeping with hundreds of people that I don't know that are just a door away.

Yeah, that's true. I guess I never... It's like letting people in your house and saying, like, good night. I don't know who you are. I've never seen you. Good night. I actually really like the locks on hotel doors. I feel like they're like super big and thick. So I guess I don't want to be scared. You don't mind us. Because I feel like someone couldn't get in if they tried.

So I was going to tell the story of the Airbnb that we went to in Vegas. Oh yeah. So we like booked this Airbnb in Vegas with a couple of friends and we drive up, and it's just not a good part of Vegas. Like we didn't realize when we booked it, but well actually we didn't even book it, our friends did.

But we drive up, but well, actually, we didn't even book it, our friends said. But we drive up, we get, we park, and I'm like, so scared, the hotel just has, it's like a apartment building. It was not even built, yeah, it's apartment building. It's like an apartment building, and it has like, just windows shattered, the parking law is just destroyed. And so we go in, go into the elevator, and everyone's just kind of side-eying us. We get to the room, we walk in. The room is like actually okay, kind of, but it just has this weird smell

and then we go into the bedroom and there's blood on the bed, remember? Yeah. There was blood on the sheets in the bed. Yeah, the whole thing was just super sketchy. It was just so weird. And I never told you about this one time. Me and my mom, we were like somewhere for a dance competition. We pull up to this hotel, and it's like late, because the dance competition just got on over, so it's like 11 p.m. And we pull up, and the hotel is just like in this sketchy area of where we were and we get out and

there's this guy just like standing staring at us like we parked the car and he kind of like walked over to the car but like stayed far enough away that he like wasn't approaching us you know but he like came close to us so we like get out and we start walking up to go into like the side door of the hotel and he follows us over there and And so I'm like, what the heck? So I open the door and we go in and we start walking. The stairs were directly where the side door was. We start walking the stairs and I turn around and he caught the door with his foot and followed us.

And so I'm freaking out. So we walk up and I'm like, well, that guy is following us. So we start walking faster and we get to our room. And he did go onto our floor and like turned around and saw what room we went into. But when I got the door closed, so the whole night, I'm like, freaking out, can't sleep. I'm so scared.

I'm like, Mom, we have to call the cops. Mom, we have to call the cops. Like he followed us in and saw what room we went into. And she's like, no, he just didn't have a key card. And he needed to get in. So he was just like waiting for someone to come open the side door for him. You know, and I was like, yeah, why would he follow us up to our room? And I like booby trapped our whole room. I took all the hangers, like the metal hangers, they hang in the closets and I hung them all over the door. I moved the desk in front of the door.

I was so scared. I think I could be wrong, but I think that might happen when you only listen to murder stuff and watch murder shows because that doesn't even cross my mind. I know, but I was just like so scared. I know. That's so funny. It's kind of like the other day we were when we were hiking. What are remember? Oh they're, remember, we were hiking with our family. Obviously it's different right now, where everyone who's listening, like COVID-19, coronavirus is going on. We were hiking with my family,

and also the sky starts approaching us, butchering the stops, and it's just staring at us. And it all took us a second to realize, oh. He's social distancing. He's social distancing. But it was creepy. It was creepy. Because he was just alone hiking,

and he came up from behind us. And then just stopped and turned around. And so we heard him and then right when we turn around, he just stops. And I think because he was probably like, oh crap, I'm supposed to be social distancing. But we were like, why did this guy just stop? He's following it. And then we realized, oh, it's social distancing. Yeah, everything was fine.

So you brought up hotels. Does that mean the murders about hotels today? Yep. Oh my gosh, I'm a genius. I had no idea, by the way, that was a total guess. Okay, so do you want to just hop into it? Yeah, let's hop into it. Okay, so I'm doing the murder of Roland T. Owen,

slash Artemis Ogletree, not two separate people, same person, two different names. Are these people from the USA? Yes. Interesting names. Okay, so I got my information off of mysteriousuniverse.org Buzzfeed Unsolved, Wikipedia, all that's interesting.com and Phantoms and Monsters.com, which was a blog. Okay.

Okay. So, on a cold winter afternoon in January of 1935, so we're way back. A man wearing a black overcoat checked into the hotel president in Kansas City, Missouri. The hotel president was like a nicer hotel for Kansas City. It was like a well-known hotel. That was pretty nice. He's tall. He has a scar on his face and he has cauliflower ear in one ear. So like people are assuming that maybe he's like a wrestler or a boxer in that time. Yeah, whatever. He has no luggage.

He books a room and requests an interior room that isn't facing the street outside. So it's like the window is facing like the courtyard in the center because it's like a nice hotel. So it's like the courtyard in the center of the hotel and not the street outside. I mean, I guess that's not that weird of a request. He pays for his room in all cash and signs as Roland T. Owen attaching an address that's in Los Angeles. After that the Bellboy whose name is Randolph Props guides Roland up to his room and the room number is 1046. I was forget about this.

So Owen's, when they get up to the room, and this is all coming from the Bell Boys point of view, Owen sets down a comb, a toothbrush, toothpaste, and a brush from his pockets, and then goes to get the key from from props and then leaves the hotel. So this is the only things that he had with him was his wallet, a comb, a toothbrush, toothpaste, and a brush. That's the only luggage he brought. Yeah, that's weird.

It's also kind of weird, maybe no one thought of this, but the Velvo is very observant. I know, because if you're thinking that, like maybe he was getting rubbed the wrong way. And so he's paying more attention to him. But it's like nothing bad had happened really yet. And so like how, but I think because the bellboy's like supposed to bring the luggage up,

but this guy had no luggage. Okay, that would have been nice. And so then when he gets in the room, he lets the guy into the room with a key. And because it's 1935. So hotels weren't like they are now. It's not like you get your key and you go up by yourself, you know? And it's not like he was like wanting to check his phone for something.

Yeah, they are. So all he was doing was staring at. Yeah. And so this guy empties his pockets out with toothbrush, toothpaste comb. And then it's like, okay, thanks. And leaves the hotel like doesn't stay in this hotel room, walks back down with the Bellboy and leaves. Got it. Okay.

And the Bellboy gives him his key. So later that day, May Soptick, who is the hotel maid, enters room 1046 to clean it. When she opens the door, Owen, the guy, is sitting on the bed with his legs straight out in front of him, with a single lamp on to the lowest setting. So it's super dim in the bed and the shades are completely drawn. There's no light coming in and he's not doing anything. He's just sitting on the bed staring at the wall in front of him. And so she gets startled, not doing anything. He's just sitting on the bed staring at the wall in front of him

And so she like gets startled right because like why is this guy sitting in the dark like I'm here to clean the room and He seems to be like visibly anxious and distraught like she can tell that like something's wrong with the guy well Owen So she enters the room and he like stands up to leave the room because she's coming in and he tells Mary not to lock the door on the way out because he's expecting a friend to come over. And he says it to her like a couple times before leaving, like he's gathering his stuff, which I don't know, like I get the guess he doesn't have that much stuff, but maybe just got, and he like mentions it over and over,

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So this hotel can only be locked from the outside of the room. So I think it's like a keyhole insert and there's no, like the inside of the door is just a door handle and you have to lock the door from the outside. It seems very unsafe. I know, so I don't really quite understand because like if you, so I think that you would go in the room and there would be no need to lock your room door unless you were leaving the room. Yeah, okay no need to lock your room door unless you were leaving the room. Yeah.

Okay. I can see that. So it's like, you leave the room, you lock the room, you come back, you unlock it and then you don't walk the door again until you're going to leave again. Does that make sense? It's not like today's hotel's where you're able to lock. This whole story is just kind of strange right now. I know.

It's kind of freaky. So Mary, the maid finishes cleaning the room. And then she returns to the room again, just a little bit later at four to leave some clean towels, because she like didn't have the towels with her when she was cleaning the room. So she opens the door again. It's unlocked. And it's startled to see Owen lying in the bed again, fully clothed, staring at the ceiling in the dark. Now the lamp is off. The students doing some like devil worship or something inside there. I know. What in the world? So the maid notices a note on the desk from like the hallway light

because it's dark in the room but she can like see the note because of the light in the hallway. And the note says, Dawn, I will be back in 15 minutes. Wait. So she's like, oh, I think he's waiting for someone. So she just like drops the towels off and leaves because she's like super uncomfortable. Which is why I think we're getting all these details. Cause I think everyone from the beginning

was like a little like making no in their head of like the weird things going on because they were. These are a lot of details. It's almost like a, I don't know, there's a ton of details like a murder mystery. Everyone's like remembering everything. But I think like if something strange, you are prone to remember it more. Yeah, that's true. So maybe like, I mean, if you walk into a room and a man's just laying fully closed shoes on in the bed, staring at the ceiling with all the lights off midday. Yeah.

You're going to be like, what? What are you doing, dude? Yeah. The next morning, Mary finds the door locked from the outside, which in her head thinks, oh, oh, and must have left, because the door is locked, you know, and you can't lock it from the inside. So she uses her key to unlock the door to clean the room,

opens the door, and once again, Owen is sitting in the bed in the dark, shades tightly shut. So she's completely startled and confused because this means that someone locked him into the room. Someone took his key, locked the door and left. Oh, yeah. Because the door was locked. So he now is doesn't have his key. What? That makes no... Okay, keep going. So she actually realizes that he's on the phone when she opens the door, but he waives her to come in anyways and clean the room. And she overhears him on the phone, say, no, Don, I don't want to eat. I'm not hungry.

I just had breakfast. No, I'm not hungry. She cleans the room and leaves. But like, how awkward is it that the maid cleaned the room and he just sat there the whole time? In the dark with the shade closed on the phone. On the phone. Yeah, this is better now.

Like, who sits in the room while the maid is cleaning the room? I said, you would never have on vacation and the maid's not come on the floor. You instantly leave. We gotta get out. We have to close something when we leave. And that's true. Like, even on our honeymoon, when they would come

to clean the room, even if we were lounging or just woke up, we were just like, we would get up and leave in the room. It's awkward. You don't wanna like, it's another doing their job. You don't wanna be there while they're just cleaning the room. I just think that's so weird. That's so weird. You don't want to like it's another doing their job. You don't want to be there. I know. I know. They're just clean. They're just sat there. And it's 1935. So maybe it's not that. He's like a vampire. He's sitting on the bed just like, yeah, Don. Yeah. How's it going? Yeah. That's so weird. So this is the second time that Don has been mentioned the first time on the

notepad. Yep. Which she thinks Dawn was the friend that came to see him, and then now on the phone. Okay. So she comes back for her afternoon rounds, and when approaching the door to room 1046, she hears two male voices talking inside the room. So she gently knocks and asks if they need any fresh towels, but she knows that they do,

because when she cleaned the room earlier, she took the towels. And now she's coming back to bring them, like she did the first day. A gruff, angry sounding voice says from inside the room, we don't need any. Go away. Wow. So we, so meaning there's multiple people, and go away. So she just leaves. And she's already has the PBGB about this room.

So she just is like, yeah, I'm leaving. So that night, this is night number two, around 1am, a guest in the neighboring room of 1046 says that she hears a man and a woman arguing. And then she says, but it actually could have been two couples, but she wasn't sure. And there was like sounds of like a scuffle and then some loud snoring.

And then that was it. And it went away and she went back to sleep. So the thing honestly is reminding me of a murder mystery. Everyone's like, has details here? Yeah, I know. Like that'll fast. I know. I also do think like has details here. Yeah, I know. Like little fads. I know.

I also do think like like in 1935, just from watching the movies, you know, like the people would just say things and the cops took it as a hundred percent. Whereas nowadays, like eyewitnesses are actually not the most reliable source you can have. Like most of the time people don't even. They want video cameras and friends. They want videos and friends cameras and friends yeah yeah because you can't really trust so I mean this story is coming strictly from my witnesses like a book yeah but I mean okay also I think everyone like I said was playing was paying closer attention because of the weird and like if you wake up in the middle of the night, I mean,

I had an experience at a hotel where I woke up in the middle of the night to some sounds going on in the room next door. And like I could vividly explain everything that happened. Yeah, because it's just it's the, you know, so the next morning, as 7 a.m. the front desk notices that room's room 1046's phone had been left off the hook. So it was like their room phone was off the hook. So they sent the Bellboy up. And this is the same Bellboy and the same made the whole story. So this Bellboy by now is like...

Yeah, this made a Bellboy already to get out of there. So they send the Bellboy up to find out what's going on. So he arrives and he goes to open the door, but the door's locked again, meaning like no one would be in the room. So he knocks on the door a couple times and then someone from inside says, come in and turn the lights on, but the door's locked.

And so like he's like, yeah, so he's like getting frustrated. He's like, you, I can't get in the door's locked, but they can't open the door either. And so he just gets frustrated and he shouts through the door, put the phone back on the hook, and then he leaves the room. Yep. So whoever was in room 1046 that morning,

doesn't listen, and at 83030 the phone is still off the hook. Oh, Bellboy is going to be pissed. So the Bellboy gets sent back up to hang up the phone. They say no matter what, get in there and hang up the phone. They give him a key to the room this time. So he knocks, there's no answer, so he lets himself in. He opens the door and he sees Owen laying on the bed fully naked with the lights off. Like curtains closed again, it's pretty dark. The only light is coming from the hallway.

Is he like in bed or just like on top of the bed, just on top of the bed, fully naked? Okay. The telephone like where it's supposed to be sitting is knocked over onto the floor and it's like off the receiver. So... That's not a pretty sight to walk into. No, so he just like assumes that he's hung over, you know? And so he walks in, picks up the phone, hangs it back up, puts it back up on like the desk that it's

supposed to be on and leaves. Doesn't say anything to Owen or anything. And Owen doesn't say anything either. So... Just silence, it's okay. Doesn't say anything to Owen or anything and Owen doesn't say anything either So just silence I know so about an hour later the front desk. It's another notification It's another notification saying that the phone is off the hook again Did he just playing games the day So the Bellboy is like frustrated by now. Like this poor bell boy. Like he's like, are you kidding me? Like I just came to work to do my job, carry these people's luggage,

and I'm having to babysit a grown man. A naked man. Yeah, a grown naked man who's hung over, like he's probably just so frustrated at this point. I just feel bad for him. That's so funny. So he goes back up. But room 1046 now has a do not disturb sign hanging on the door knob. So someone

Somehow open the door grab the do not disturb sign put it on and close the door again Because you can't unlock the room from the inside. Yeah So He's like what the heck? It's probably didn't just kick them out of the hole. I know. And so he knocks and knocks and knocks and there's no response.

So he lets himself in again. He opens the door and lets himself in. I don't know if the door is locked again at this point or if it's unlocked, but he opens the door. He finds Owen hunched over, like on close to the door, he's on the floor holding his head in his hands. And he's like hunched over naked, so holding his head in his hands.

And there's blood everywhere. It's on the floor, it's on the walls, it's all over the bathroom, and it's all over the bed. Oh my gosh, this guy's always naked too. I love that that's what you got out of that. I know you said a lot more than that, but this guy's always naked. I know you would walk in and be like, do I even say something like this guy's butt naked. Oh, that's so funny.

So obviously the bell boy freaks out. Like he's like, I did not sign up for this. Seriously? So he's like panic. He runs down to the lobby and the lobby calls the police because there's no cell phones. So the police arrive and they run, they go up to floor 10, room 10, 46 and they find that Owen is still in the same position, but he's actually alive. Like he's dying, but he's alive. So they like turn him over, you know, they start helping him. He has, they notice that he has

stab wounds to his chest. Oh His head has multiple fractures. So like he's bleeding and they can tell that his head is broken basically He has bruises all around his neck and his wrists and ankles are tight. So he's bound. What the heck? So someone's got to be inside the hotel going around. Yeah, I don't know. So the cops, the police are like this guy's been tortured. Like there's blood everywhere.

He's tied up. He's beaten. He's been tortured. So they try to talk to him because they know he might die in a second. Yeah. So they're like, please tell us what happened, what happened to you who did this? And he's, he says, no one. And then they're like, well, what happened? And he's like, I fell in the bathtub. And then he goes unconscious. What in the world? Yeah, so they take him to It's a big fall

So they take him to the hospital and he's in a coma and then he dies at the hospital. Oh, man I know our own see here's sleep But now I want to figure out okay, then. Yeah. So authorities search room 1046 and they find some weird things. So first of all, there are no clothes in the room and Owen was naked and there's no clothes at all in the room. So someone took his clothes. Um, um, um, peanut butter maybe. Yeah. Cause I'm so good. Um, there's no towels or toiletries from the hotels.

So someone came and took all the towels that were in the room and all the little toiletries they give, the shampoo and conditioner and lotion. Those are nice, you know, sometimes you gotta take them and do what you gotta do. You're a hotel toiletry jacker? No, I don't do that. Maybe. So all of those are missing, obviously. Yeah.

So, and then the blood is just everywhere. Like, they're like, this wasn't just in the bathroom, like this. How did, okay. So how did the person next door not hear it this time, but when people were, but they heard it the other time and people were barely even making any noise. So, you know what I'm saying?

Like what, where was the person next door that was super attentive before? So, I'm gonna tell you this detail, but it was kind of like controversial. It wasn't in every source that I read. Okay. The first time the Bellboy goes in and he's laying naked in the bed, just laying there, the Bellboy, according to some of the sources says that he thinks that he sees some dark stains on the bed, like around him. But he's just so annoyed that he sees some dark stains on the bed, like around him.

But he's just so annoyed that he's having to go back up that he feels like it's probably just like spilt wine or stuff like that. Like he doesn't actually, and the guy's naked. And so he's not just staring at him, right? Like you walk in, there's a dude that's naked. You're not just going to, so he just like looks at the phone, goes to the phone, picks it up and leaves. And it's dim. I like,, like it's dark in the room.

Yeah, it's kind of a hard detail, cause oh, I think I saw some stains, but you know, now that I know he got killed, I think I did see things. So the only reason I'm telling you that now, based on the question you asked is because maybe Owen wasn't beat in between the two Bellboy visits. Maybe Owen was beat earlier, and then finally like came conscious to fell off the bed,

tried to crawl to the door, got the phone off the hook again. I see what you're saying, okay. You know, so we don't, you know, there's no timeline of like when this actually happened. Plus like there might not have been anyone in the room's next to him. It's the middle of the day at this point. So the police find four fingerprints on the phone

stand, which seemed to be women's fingerprints, because they were small, or it's a man with tiny hands. They don't, I mean, they're assuming it's real. There were two water glasses in the room and one was broken, like, like, you know, like a jagged. And the other one was like in pristine condition. There was an unused cigarette and an unopened bottle of sulfuric acid. Yeah. How do I say that? Sulforic acid? Sulforic acid. Okay. Which I don't know what that's used for. Do you? No, I did not answer the word, but I was going to do it. Like back when I was like a chemist,

I'm trying to remember what I used sulfuric acid for for but I like really can't remember this really is It really is like a like I'm in a mystery room You know like the escape rooms. Yeah, everyone doing escape room. Okay, so the cigarette buds here There's a cup here. There's this here figure out who murdered him. Yeah, and doesn't it just seem like every old Like murder mystery that you ever watched Yeah, cuz usually I don't like these as much, but I think cuz it's old like this like it like every old murder mystery that you've ever watched. Yeah, cause usually I don't like these as much but I think cause it's old like this.

Like it, I swear every old murder has these like weird details of like stuff like this, you know. Like who has a bottle of sulfuric acid sitting in their hotel room, you know? It's intriguing, okay. So the cops discover that Roland T. Owen doesn't actually exist. And it's not the man's real name or identity. There was no one in America in the United States of America with the name Roland T. Owen. So they go back and realize that he's booked several other hotels

in Kansas, like the days before the incident, just under different aliases that were all fake. So he was just bouncing from hotel to hotel using different names. A city worker named Robert Lane claims that he had been approached by Owen the night that Owen checked in and Owen thought that Robert was driving a taxi but he wasn't. And, Owen walks up to him wearing only his underwear and t-shirt, despite it being freezing outside. Of course. And Lane notices that he has like a bloody wound on his arm. And so he's like, hey, well, I'm not a taxi, but you know, can I help you with that wound on your arm? Are you okay?

And all Owen says back is, don't worry, I'm gonna get revenge on the person who gave this wound to me. Oh weirdo. So during the funeral preparations for this now, an identified man, an anonymous caller calls in and claims that the dead man was his brother-in-law and that the cops were on the wrong track with the murder. The caller asked the police not to bury him where they were planning on,

and that he would send money to pay for a nicer funeral. The money ends up coming in as in a wad of cash wrapped up in newspaper. And they never can figure out who the anonymous caller was. Wow. During the funeral, no family shows up for the unidentified man, but like apparently the family knows that he's died if you believe the anonymous caller. But another anonymous person sends flowers and money with a note saying, love forever, Luis.

So, two people are claiming they know who this man is, but no one's coming forward to tell the police who this man is. And someone sent money and flowers to the funeral with a note that said love forever, Luis. Yeah, this whole thing is just kind of getting stranger and stranger. So police try to figure out who Dawn is, right? Like they have no luck on these anonymous people,

so they're like, let's just go back to the one fact that we do have that this guy was in contact with someone named Dawn, or at least was claiming to be according to the maid and the bellboy and everyone. So they go, they try to find who Dawn is, they try to follow the leads, they have no luck. They can't figure out who Dawn is. They truly have no idea what happened in Room 1046

besides strange and concerning behavior from this unidentified man. And it seems like a pretty small hotel. So you think they would know. Like if someone came in that they'd be like. And they did like, so the the Bellboys like, you know, in the people at the hotel are like, oh, the night of the murder. Um, a commercial woman actually came into the hotel which is a sex worker. Yeah. Went up to floor 10 because like the guy standing at the elevator,

like saw what button she pushed, went up to floor 10, comes back down, meets another guy, and then they go back up to floor 9. Okay, so they talk about all the strange stuff that I've been in. Yeah, but it's like no one, like that's just, but it's like, there's always weird stuff happening. Yeah, but also like, who remembers that? Yeah. Detail.

It's the middle of the night who remembers like, oh, they came in. They went up to floor 10. They came back down. You know, like when there's nothing weird going on. Yeah, I could see that. Unless it was like, oh, that's a sex worker. And you know, in that day, it was like, a big real.

A sex worker. Yeah. So it was like, maybe they were remembering because of that. Uh-huh. Honestly, I don't know. So the case remains cold until 1936, which is actually only like a year and a half later. A woman calls the authorities and says her name is Eleanor Ogletree,

and she's from Alabama. She claims to have come across a photo of Owen in a magazine article about the case and says it's her brother, Artemis, who's 17 and disappeared a while back. Whoa. She says around the disappearance, Artemis had sent a series of strange typed up, like, you know, on like a typewriter typed up letters to their mom, but he didn't actually know how to type, like he was never taught how to type and they didn't have a typewriter. And the tone of the

letters seemed a little off, so they were just kind of like, that can't be him. That really can't be him, so they didn't know what to think of it. And in the last letter, he said that he was planning to sell around Europe. And so, you know, don't be weirded out if you don't hear from me for a while and then they never heard from him again. It's kind of interesting to think back then. You can't like... Find my friends.

Yeah, like find my friends are like, oh, that's my brother, that's been missing. And he left, but it's like you can call him on a cell phone or like, see him on Instagram and you're like, oh, okay He's in Nebraska now or something. Yeah, mm-hmm. It's just like, oh, I guess he's dead. I had no idea. Yeah So they send the Kansas police photos of Artemis their brother because you can't like get on Facebook and look him up The resemblance is actually uncanny

To Owen like they literally look at the photos and go, wow, this actually might be the dead man. He even had the same scar on his face. Oh, wow. But if it really was him, if Owen, if Roland T Owen is Artemis Ogletree, the letters that Artemis sent to his mom were sent after Roland T Owen died. Okay, well, that would make sense because they said the letters were weird anyways. So it really wasn't him. Yeah.

And that's it. That's all? That's all we have. So it's never been solved. Never been solved. Wow. Yeah. So it's this, it's like one of the most mysterious.

No evidence, no answers, murder cases like that exist. And we still don't know who Don is. No. That's just been kind of a mystery the whole time too. So they do say that Don back in the day was like a name for a mafia boss, like a nickname. Oh. Is that, you know that? Yeah, no, I didn't know that. Oh, so they say like they would call all mafia bosses Don. Like they didn't go by their real names. They just went by Don. You're Don. Yeah. So they're like saying, you know, maybe he got wrapped up with the mafia

bosses girl. And so then, you know, Don came for him. And that's why he was going to different hotels using different names, trying to run away. I could see that or I mean not the exact thing but like the maid said that someone said to her no we're fine just go away. So obviously someone was pissed off inside there. Yeah so I'm gonna go through some theories. Like these are just speculated theories of all people alike. Yeah. So theory number one, the most simple theory. Don, beat Artemis to death alone in room 1046. And that's how, like, that's what happened. He was the man with the deep voice that the maid heard. And Artemis was trying to run from him and Don found him, beat him.

Okay. Theory number two, Don didn't act alone because of the woman that was heard by the neighbor that night. And then also people think that the sex worker who came up and then came back down to meet the man was meeting Don and then they both went back up and killed him together. Oh, okay. So she came up, saw him, came back down, met Dawn with the key and went back up.

I kind of like that theory. Um, because, you know, the elevator operator saw her and it was her, a man and a woman arguing. Interesting. man and a woman arguing. The third is that ogle tree was killed like hit for higher by someone for being unfaithful to his fiance Luis who sent flowers to his funeral and money saying love forever Luis and she her brother Luis's brother could have been the anonymous caller that paid for the funeral. Oh, but I'm like if she hit for hired him, why would she then pay for his funeral? What? Isn't he also 17 years old? Yeah. I mean, did people, I mean, I guess people got back then people did get married really.

I don't know about that one. Okay. Yeah. So those are like the three main things. So now I'm going to tell you kind of what I feel after. So I think the reason that he was sitting in the bed like that with the lights off was because he was being held prisoner in the hotel. I think that Don was with him in the hotel a lot of the time. And so he was just sitting there because like Don was coming in and out of the hotel to meet him, acting as like another guest of another room. And he was like being forced to stay there and then eventually Don, this guy, whoever it is, kills him. And I think that when the Bellboy came in, the first time he had already been beat and dawn was still in the room. And I think when the Bellboy came in, dawn was hiding in the room, in

the middle of beating him and set him in the bed naked and said don't move. I could see that one especially because it was dark all. It was dark the entire time. And like the phone kept going off. So it's like there was something going on up there. And so and I think that whatever Artemis had done, he was obviously scared. He had been running.

He had been using fake aliases. I think he would have 10,000 percent been under control of someone. So if someone sat him in the bed and said, don't move, he would have done it. Yeah. No, I think you actually might be right. It was it's hard because there's not a whole lot of information. And because the do not disturb sign came back on the door. The last time the Bellboy came up, I think someone was in the room when the Bellboy came up the first time and was hiding. So, but then how was the door getting locked every single time? Because, oh, like you mean if there's someone in the room, how's the door getting locked? Because I think that there is a girl working with him. Got it. I do think that there's a third person.

Okay. Yeah. And I think they that there is. So you think it was a third person? Okay. Yeah, and I think they just bounced back the keys back and forth. Okay. Yeah, that's it. Because I think you think about it, it's perfect. He can't leave if he's locked in the room.

Uh huh. Like it's a perfect place to hold someone prisoner. Seriously. It's a worry that the hotel doors only locked from outside. It really is like a jail. Yeah, I think because yeah, there was just the safety, there was no need to lock your door if you're in the hotel doors only locked from outside. It really is like a jail. Yeah, I think because yeah, there was just the safety, there was no need to lock your door if you're in the room. You're fine, no one's gonna come hurt you.

I would be interested to know if back in that time if people even locked their houses, like if there were locks on the doors to houses. I'm not the best with history. I'm not asking you. I don't really remember reading that in my history books at school, but. Well, think of the great Gatsby. So the guy they probably did.

Yeah. The Gatsby was like 1920. Yeah, the 20s. So yeah. Yeah, they probably did. It's just weird to me that a hotel like, I had to research it because I was so confused. You're like, it's like, I hate hotels. Can you imagine not having a lock on your door in a hotel?

We act like they're living in like tents. Like we don't know what the history is very well. Wait, did they shut the TPP tent when they left? I know. No, yeah, you do hate hotels, so. Yeah, so this story, like the fact that the door locks from the outside and someone could lock you in your room or you couldn't lock someone out of your room, gives me the heebies.

Yeah. Like I don't like that. Which is why I started this story off with why I hate, oh, it tells so bad. Yeah, that's a good one. So in conclusion, was Artemis Ogletree really Roland T. Owen? And if so, how did he even end up in Kansas City? His family has no idea. Was the mysterious dawn the man who had been heard talking to Owen? And did he kill Artemis and then send those letters to make the family think that he was still alive? And if so, like why? Why

even make the family? Like he was already gone. The family wasn't causing a ruckus like he had art He had been gone for a while Who's the woman involved and what role did she play and What actually happened in room 1046 why was Rollin Owen or Artemis Ogletree acting so weird and and like showing Concerning behavior the whole time he was staying there. I Think there's too many gaps. There's so there's so many gaps between the letters between Someone claiming him as family between the anonymous caller. Yeah between all this stuff

There's just I don't even know if I can form an opinion because there's so many gaps, but it's so weird It's freaky. I think the freakyest part is not that someone was killed in a hotel room. I don't think that that is that strange. I think the behavior leading up to the phone going, the phone keep getting off the hook. The fact that he just kept sitting in the bed in the dark, never opening the windows, never turning a light on,

just staring up at the ceiling, not reading a newspaper, not like doing things to pass his time. The fact that the only person that he was ever heard talking to or like communicating with was a guy named Don. The fact that when the maid went up there, there was someone else in the room that said, no, we don't need towels go away. Also... It's just that behavior before the murder itself that is so alarming. Something else I thought it was when he left the room and he told the maid don't lock it, it could be because Don was in there and didn't want to get locked in. Didn't want to get locked in.

Like I, I think there's something so spooky to the fact that like someone can be hiding in a room and you don't know like someone is in a room with you and you are unaware like that that that thought is Very spooky and freaky to me and so the fact that this is made could have been in there and someone could have been hiding under the bed Oh, yeah, like that is so where while while their prisoner Artimus is just sitting in the bed, staring up at the ceiling, trying to act like nothing weird is going on. Like that is spooky to me, and that is why I like this story so much, because the possibility of that happening seems to be kind of high.

Yeah, I think, oh, I'm sure Mades and Bellboys have so many insane stories even now. Oh, I know hotels are just Oh weird. I mean, hotels are awesome. They're fun to stay in everyone's Right? But I'm sure there's so many crazy stories. Yeah, so many. Yeah, I know. I But I mean every lawn, every TV show that I watch always has at least at least once a season has a hotel murder or a hotel crime of some sort like that's it's the it's just you get a whole bunch of strangers in one place that was a good one though I know I I did one that was

unsolved because we've been having ones that are solved you know so this is technically one of the most mysterious unsolved murder of the death in room 1046. Awesome. That was a good one. Oh. Oh, you can't hit the... Yeah. I know, because it was solved. We don't know the gel.

I do feel like Artemis, Roland, whatever you want to call him, did something naughty. Oh, I'm sure you. I mean, people don't usually just kill people for no reason. There's always some motive. But I do feel like he got mess. He got involved with the wrong people. Like, is it mafia boss? I could totally see that. And, and was trying to run and then got caught and got killed and got killed. And like, they run and then got caught. And got killed. And got killed. And like they held him there for a while. I mean, it wasn't a while, it was two days.

But yeah. Yeah, I definitely think that's kind of what happened in this situation, but we'll never know. We will never know. Well, one day, hopefully. Unless someone out there has some information that we don't know, then feel free to pass it along. Yeah, I mean, if you just happen to listen to this and you happen to know

What really happened in room 10 or 6 great great great grandpa? Please let me know so that I can solve a murder That's so funny. I know Awesome. That's a good one. Yeah. Well, I think that's, I mean. All right, well, thank you for listening. Please, please subscribe to our podcast. If you, if you finished this one, if you got to the end, you owe it to yourself to subscribe. You're a real fan at this point,

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