Murder With My Husband - 43. Lewis Clark Valley Disappearances

Episode Date: January 11, 2021

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Hey everybody, welcome back to our podcast. This is Murder With My Husband. I'm Peyton Moreland. And I'm Garrett Moreland. And he's the husband. And I'm the husband. We just want to say thank you to everyone who signed up for our Patreon and who also viewed our YouTube channel. It means so much to us. You guys have no idea.

Okay, we need to do Garrett's 10 seconds for this episode. So what is it? So it's snowing where we are and it's really cold, but I have a power washer. So the other day I put all my snow clothes on and went out and washed the car and my snow clothes and I have a foam cannon and so I used the foam cannon. Just so everyone knows, don't do it when it's cold outside because the foam froze all over our car. Yes, he's not like, I will post a picture though of him and his whole get up out there

because it was really funny. It actually worked really well. I get really cold so after we're snow clothes like every time I shovel whole get up out there because it was really funny. It actually worked really well. I get really cold, so after birth snow clothes like every time I shovel or anything. But it was really funny. That's my 10 seconds. Awesome. This case was sent into us by a listener on Instagram.

Her name is Haley Potter Fun Fact. I think I used to teach dance to her. Way back in my high school days, yeah. Pain's a really good dancer for anyone who doesn't know. Oh, please. Not trying to hyper up too much, but my wife's a good dancer. Okay, but anyways, thank you, Haley, so much for reaching out. It was fun. It was fun to talk to you. So our case sources this week are a Hulu two part called Cold Valley. It was really good. I would suggest watching it.

Spokesman.com, the criminal code.com and obviously Reddit because this case is a Robert whole. So Reddit was my friend. I also do need to mention that the Hulu 2 part is centered around detective Jackie Nichols who is just this bad a like detective from a very small town but who has gone out of her way to look into this case, has like, I feel done a really good job of almost single-handedly piecing what we're going to talk about today together. And then not like being like, oh, it's my case, I have to do it, but like also getting other people involved to help.

She truly just wants to solve this. Team player. Yes. And just awesome. Like, has spent so much of her own time doing this. And so I do need to give a shout out to her. A lot of this information comes directly from her. That's awesome.

So our case this week, I just said, is a wild one at that. We will be discussing multiple cases that after much time were tied together by multiple different crime units and are believed to have the same suspect. More recently, these cases have been summarized as the Lewis Clark Valley Disappearances. I was gonna say is, does everyone know what that means?

Like the Lewis Clark, is that like a big case? No, I don't think so. So because sometimes when you say these things, like you make it seem like, it's a huge deal. Like a huge deal and I'm like, am I the only one that doesn't know what this case is? No, this is not, you wouldn't think so. So because sometimes when you say these things, like you make it seem like. It's a huge deal. Like a huge deal. And I'm like, am I the only one that doesn't know what this case is? No, this is not you, you wouldn't know this case.

Okay. I only am saying that because it is multiple cases. So I'm trying to give you one title, the Lewis Clark Valley, disappearances. Kind of like a serial killer like Ted Bundy, you just call him Ted Bundy. Got it. Because you're going to talk about multiple cases. That's what I'm doing here Okay, so we're starting in 1979

Christina White went missing from a sotin, Washington. She has never been found She was a bit of a tomboy loved being outside wasn't scared to do anything Only a thousand people lived in a sotin at that time and everybody knew everybody was small town. A sootin is nestled right on the edge of Washington, essentially a neighbor city of Idaho. So when you look at it on the map, it's like on the edge of Washington in Idaho. So don't be confused as we go through. I'm calling it the Lewis Clark, which is Idaho. I'm calling it the Lewis Clark, which is Idaho.

I'm referring to two different states, like Idaho and Washington, but think of them as like neighboring cities. Like it's a short drive between the two. Yes, do you cross, but just think of it as one state in two cities. April 28, 1979, 12-year-old Christina heads downtown with her mother and little sister to watch the parade.

The fair was running in town at that time of year, so a lot of festivities were happening for local people. And when I first met Garrett, I'm from Idaho, a smaller town. And the fair in my town is like, it's the biggest event. And it sounds like it with this town. Was that just an Idaho thing or like small town people is like the fair, like the biggest thing to happen to you because you were like the fair, like okay, it's just a-

Yeah, I remember when we, I went up and visited you and your family and you're like, it's fair week. Like we're going to the fair. Yeah. I'm like cool, we're going to the fair. So I don't know, they made a scene like a big deal too. So she, like I said, but they also do like parades during this time

because it's like the party week. So Christina, her mom, her little sister head to the parade. After the parade, Christina's mom drove home a different route. So she could drop Christina off at her friend's house and then head home. They brought her bike with them because Christina and her friend were going to ride their bikes to the fair later that day

So they leave the parade they go to Christina's friends house drop her off drop her bike off So say okay, you guys going to the the fair later and then heading home Christina's mom watched her run up to her friends porch and go in Not long after dropping her off Christina's mom gets a call from Christina who says that she was feeling hot and exhausted Her mom says to get a cold towel a glass of water cool down and then ride your bike back to home back to our house So what you're reading again? 79 okay, so how did she call her mom from the friends house the landline got it? Yeah, so she's at a friends house 12 years old calls from the landlines as mom

I'm not feeling good her mom says says, grab a glass of water, like cool down and then ride your bike home. Like don't go to the fair. Okay. Christina has never seen again. A search begins and everyone in town is looking for Christina. Not even her bike can be found.

We aren't for sure who exactly was at the friend's house while she was over there, but this was the last place Christina was seen. How many miles was the friend's house while she was over there, but this was the last place Christina was seen. How many miles was the friend's house from her house? I don't know the exact miles, but I do know it wasn't going to be like this huge deal that she wrote her by-home. Obviously now, like, I feel like we don't like go, oh, just ride your by-home because it wasn't like the same neighborhood.

You know what I'm saying? But it wasn't like too far for her to ride. A couple of weeks go by and nothing is discovered in the case. A man named Carol Flynn discovers some papers on the edge of his property and was surprised when he realized that they were the school papers of the missing girl, Christina White. His property was on the outskirts of a so too. So pretty far from where Christina was last seen. This is like a big lead, everyone's like, oh my gosh,

really searched the Flynn farm, but nothing is found. It's as if Christina White up and vanished without a trace. Two years later, on June 26, 1981, 22-year-old Kristen David, so our first one was Christina, she's 12. Now 22 year old Kristen David begins a three hour bike ride from Moscow to Lewiston Idaho. Oh, that's a long bike ride. Yes, keep in mind, I just said Idaho, but we are still right by a so tin, okay? Was she riding for like exercise?

Pleasure. Okay. Yep. Kristen was a University of Idaho student and had a plan to do this bike ride and be back in time to go to work. When she didn't show up for work, her mother called all family asking if anyone had seen or heard from Kristen, they hadn't. And are both, were both of these in just broad daylight as well? Yes. Both of these are middle of the day.

She calls the police to tell her that the college kids run off all the time. There probably isn't anything to worry about. Kristen's family know there's something to worry about. This is the second young girl, young, okay, 22 and 12, but the second girl to go missing in the area in two years. And keep mind this small town. It's not like girls go missing all the time. They talk to neighbors and discover that they had heard Kristen

getting her bike out and starting her ride. So they're like she obviously made it to the bike ride. An eyewitness comes forward claiming that he saw a brown van with an organ license plate on the side of the road. And next to the van was a bike on the ground. The hind wheel was still turning and a blonde girl was like in fetal position on the ground. So he like drove by. It looked to him as if she had crashed maybe and he thought the brown van had pulled off to helper because the van was like in front of her, but near near her. So they just thought, oh, they pulled off to helper.

He noticed a six foot, 150 pound man get out with a smile on his face and walk around the back. Keep in mind, he's just driving by. So this is just a snapshot of what he sees. When the eyewitness gets home, he calls the paramedics because there's no cell phones to tell them to go help because he felt like there was a girl out there who'd gotten hurt and someone had pulled off to help her. They head out there, the van and the girl are gone. The bike. I'm pretty sure it wasn't there because the paramedics were like kind

of frustrated with this man for wasting their time to send him out there and there was nothing there. Think if there had been a bike there they would have been like, oh, the girls missing like let's check possible whatever. Kristen's family decides to conduct their own search because the police are really not helping them. They do not believe that Kristen would run away or get in a car with a stranger unless she had bike trouble or was taken against her will. Less than two weeks later, about 6.5 miles downstream from the Red Wolf Bridge, which is the Snake River, by the way. A fisherman came across a garbage bag while he was fishing. It was July 4, 1981,

and when he looked inside the garbage bag, he discovered part of a human body wrapped in newspaper. Oh my gosh. He looked around, discovered more garbage bags a little bit away, decides to step off, heads home, his needs of phone, contacts law enforcement who discovered a total of five garbage bags with pieces of human body wrapped in newspapers. Think of it like meat packing. Like if you were to go to the

store and buy meat like wrapped in brown paper, it's like that, but it's the body. How many how many bodies do they want? Oh, so there's one pieces wrapped in five different garbage bags. Okay. The area the bags were found is just a river. It's surrounded by rocks. So literally think like a river flowing rocks and the garbage bags are just laying around the rocks. Upon further investigation, police discovered that the body had been dismembered with precision and knowledge. This was not an amateur who cut up this body. So almost like he had to have been a,

worked in like a meat by butcher or something like that. Okay, yep, that's the good stuff. A mortician. Is that what they, no. I don't know. No morticians don't cut up bodies, okay, let's just. Yeah. Is that what they, no. I don't know. No, morticians don't cut up bodies. Okay, let's just show you. Yeah, I was kind of,

I met a medical examiner. The person in the bags is positively identified as missing 22 year old Kristen David. The FBI is called, but nothing is ever released on if they furthered the investigation. How did they identify her though? Like how do they even, it was only like what, six,

six, two and a half weeks later or something? Let me look. But like, she was obviously not... Two weeks later. Recognizable, correct? No, but the body hasn't degraded. Yes. So they can take DNA, which they went to the parents, they can...

So, but they couldn't recognize it, correct? They have dental records, yes. One year later, on September 13th, 1982, 21-year-old Christina Nelson, and her 18-year-old step sister, Brandi Miller, are reported missing from Lewis and Idaho. So keep in mind, we have the first Christina then Kristen, and now we have another Christina. Don't get confused. Okay.

Police visit Christina's apartment and discover it's in pristine condition. No evidence of a struggle. They discover a note at the apartment claiming that the girls were going to the grocery store to do laundry, but it's undetermined if they ever made it. Okay. That same week in 1982, police receive another call claiming that 35-year-old Steve Piercil had not been seen since he entered a local civic theater. Oh gosh, everyone was the janitor. Everyone's going missing literally. He wasn't working that night just hanging around the place like he usually did Three different witnesses put him at the theater around midnight. No one saw him leave

Okay, that was the same night that Brandy and Christina disappeared his wallet Uncashed paycheck and car were still at his apartment Which leads police to think he didn't run away and his clarinet was found in the orchestra pit at the civic theater. It's known to have been his prized possession. So this guy goes to the civic theater that night, goes missing three people, see him there. No one sees him leave. All his possessions are at his house and his favorite possession is at the theater where he usually played his clarinet at the theater.

So that was normal. Okay. I'm trying to figure out with how many people have gone missing. There was not one camera anywhere. They're out the whole city that cost them. 70s and 80s. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. They don't mention anything. Also, these are small towns too. Like it's it's it's pretty small. Mm-hmm. The connection though between the two girls who went missing in Steve that went missing

the same night, is that one of them had also worked at the civic theater where Steve was last seen. According to online sources, the girls also had to walk by the theater to the grocery store that night. Oh, okay. So this was kind of later debunked that like yes, the girls could have walked by the theater, but it wouldn't have been like the smartest path for them to take. So they probably didn't.

Like so they might not have, but this is how they were like, oh, they could have walked past it to get to the grocery store, but it was out of the way. But I will come back to that later. Don't let me forget. Okay. So essentially around the same time, all three of them were in the same vicinity and all three went missing. Is this a coincidence?

Can that even happen in a small town like up in Vanish, no clues to where anyone is? Police searched the connecting piece, the theater, for any clues, but nothing is found. In 2017, the civic theater was condemned and is on schedule to be demolished. So they're going to tear down the last place, hasn't done it yet, but they're going to. Yeah.

Where he was seen and where they think that's the connection between him and the girls. But this is a while later. In 2017, yes. Yeah, so we just like jumped forward, but now we're back into the 70s. Okay. Two years later, on March 19th, 1984, two bodies were found in a rural area just outside Kendrick, Idaho. This is about 30 to 40 miles away

from Lewis to Idaho where the girls disappeared. Okay. It was the remains of Christina and Brandy, the two sisters who had disappeared. They had been badly decomposed, were clothed, and had jewelry on when they were dumped there. Oh, that's kind of weird. Keep in mind, Kristen was chopped up. Do you remember?

So there were cords found around the bodies that were most likely used on the bodies, but they were badly decomposed so they don't know where the cords were. So because the murders were pretty different, I mean, one was chopped up and one was fully clothed. Yes. I would assume that they probably don't connect the dots and go, this is the same person. Yes, and you do have to, like I will admit,

from the cases we've discussed, you have a 12 year old girl. Then you have a 22 year old girl. Then you have 20 year old twins, or sisters. Sisters, step sisters. Uh huh. Who go missing? But then a 35 year old girl. Then you have 20 year old twins or sisters, sisters, step sisters, who go missing, but then a 35 year old male. So it's not like as you're looking, it's not like we obviously have a serial killer. They're all under 14. Yes, most serial killers don't change their M.O. And yes,

are they all in the same area, which is a little weird. Yes, but I mean, that's a pretty broad range for a victim. There was no evidence of Steve, Steve Pearsle, the 35 year old who also went missing around the disposal site. So he's still missing. This was hard because Steve Pearsle was seen as a victim, but when he went missing the same night and his body didn't show up with the girls, police threw around the idea that he could be a suspect and not a victim. Yeah. You have to imagine how this felt for Steve's family

who hadn't seen him and were sure he was in danger and hurt. But now everyone's like throwing around the idea, like, did he kill these girls, dump their bodies and just fall off the face of the earth to hide? But it's hard because he's also missing. His family and friends promise that he wasn't violent, that Steve could never have done this, and it sucks because they're now defending their family member

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Some people thinking in the same place, the Civic Theater. Five victims, one general area, and no evidence. So they still haven't found in 1979 when... Kristen? Christina, the 12-year-old. Christina, the 12-year-old's murder they never found to her body. Nope. Okay.

But they found everyone else that's except hers, correct? And Steve's. Oh, yes, and Steve's. So they found three bodies. There's five victims. Police discovered that there was someone else at the civic theater that night that they all went missing. And so they bring him in to ask him some questions.

Immediately they feel like the suspect is not looking them in the eyes has defensive body language, all the things that police say when they're you know someone's acting sus. They ask him what he was doing at the civic theater on the night of the disappearances and he claims to have been working on the theater. So he was hired to work like jobs around the theater and that he says he was working that night. He says he was up in the loft attic space working on things when he accidentally fell through the plaster and down into the theater. Geez.

It obviously shocked him. He made his way to a couch in the green room to lay down because he was unwell from the fall and he fell asleep. He says the phone rang while he was laying down, but he didn't get up to answer it and then he drifted back off to sleep. He tells police he had no idea that Steve Persel was in the theater that night and that he didn't talk to anyone at the theater that night. Steve would have walked right past the green room,

turning on lights as he went to make his way into the theater. So he literally says, I was at the theater with this guy who went missing from the theater, but I didn't hear anything because I was asleep. Also, why was Steve there so late? Sorry, when you were telling me that, I was thinking about, wait, why was he there at 12 o'clock at night?

Yes. So Steve was supposedly like with his girlfriend, and then she dropped him off. He used to hang out at the theater. He would, like, it was kind of like a hangout place. So like midnight though, was that normal back then? I don't know. I think it's like, I don't know really,

but he went back there to hang out. Like he was playing his clarinet. He did it often. They said that he just like hung out around there. It is a little weird. I will give that to you, but they made it sound normal. Okay.

Now you might be thinking that the suspect is a stretch. Like this is their number one suspect and all they have in four is being at the theater, that night. There are two other crimes involved in our story. I'm telling you this is a suspect for all five murders. Oh, okay. Or not murders. Some of them are missing. Uh-huh. There's two other crimes involved. And this is their main suspect for that. And keep in mind, at this point, they haven't connected them. But now I have. And so I'm telling you,

this is the main suspect. This is the best sex. They have that just happened to be sleeping in a room while Steve was at the theater. They're not even for sure that the girls went missing from the theater. But police cracked down on this suspect so hard because he wasn't only connected to the Steve, Kristen, Brandy case.

In 1979, back when Christina went missing, our main suspect, this guy, had been living in the home of the friend's house where 12 year old Christina White had become sick and called her mom from and went missing. He was living in the home. I mean, I guess I keep forgetting that the town is only 1,000 people.

Yes. So everyone knows each other. So he's probably bouncing around from place to place. He was supposedly Christina's friend, like who she went to play with, her stepdad at the time. So when Christina's mom dropped her off, he was there because he was the friend's dad. Literally the last place Christina had been seen. So the next day, our same suspect, had made his way to the Sheriff's Station in 1979

to let them know that he would like to be on the search team for missing Christina and would help in any way he could, i.e. inserting himself into the investigation, which everyone always thinks is weird. I guess this makes you say we have one person who is connected physically to all but one of these cases, which is Kristen who went missing on her bike, but there's not enough evidence. The police department investigating Christina White

have a main suspect and the police department investigating the civic three, that's what we're calling them, the three who went missing around the civic theater, have a main suspect and it just happens to be the same suspect. Yeah, that's a little fishy. These two departments reach out to each other and decide to work together on the cases after they figure this out. Police discover with this extra help that back when Christina White was abducted, possibly from the house, where our main suspect was at the time, there was another house in between her friend's house

and her mom's house where she was supposed to be riding her bike that was actually owned by this suspect but was vacant. Is it possible that this suspect offered to take Christina home after she had called her mom and told her, I'm feeling sick and her mom said, we'll just ride your bike home, did he take her? So he owned Christina home. After she had called her mom and told her, I'm filling second her mom said, we'll just ride your bike home, did he take her? So he owned another home.

But he was completely vacant. Yes. No one, there are no renters or anything. That's really weird. She wasn't filling well, she most likely wouldn't have wanted to ride home. Like if she was sick, she wouldn't have wanted to get on her bike and ride home.

So does he, you know, say, all take you home. She goes with him and instead of taking her home, he takes her to the vacant house. Yeah. On the way to her home. Police talk to relatives and friends of the suspect and several of them describe odd behavior like him digging around his house at night,

him spooking a woman he was showing a house to. A woman was with her family camping when she walked back up to get something from her car where a man pulled off and asked for directions. She told him, I don't really know, but my family is down there and they might know. He says, well, get in my car and I'll drive you down there. She goes, uh, no, he just walked down there. He goes, never mind drives away. Later that night, same family notices a man pop his head around a tree near the campsite that they're camping at. They realize it's the same man as earlier that was in the truck. I guess I'm trying to like think through this because there's only a thousand people in this town,

right? Yeah. So this is right over multiple towns. Oh, that's right. Okay. We're the little girl went missing how to thousand people. We are in multiple cities though. Okay. The family gets spooked. This guy came back. So they just decided to pack up and leave. Later that night, the same family notices a man pop his head around a tree near the campsite and they realize it's the same man as earlier. They just decide to pack up and leave. They're spooked. Later that year, this family is at a parade when they see the same man again at the parade and they start talking about it like, hey, that's that man that was acting weird at the campsite and next to them is a local

police officer and he said which guy and they said him right there and he said you know who that is right that's our main suspect in the abductions and murders wow so he had spooked a whole a girl had come up he tried to get her to get in his car the suspect was married and had acted in a show at the civic theater. Apparently he was having an affair with the main young actress and it was her first real relationship. After the show they broke up he's cheating on his wife who breaks up with his mistress and a while later she takes her own life. Suspiciously this main suspect is the one who finds her. Oh so how many people can die around you? How many people can be

so uncomfortable around you? So now we're at six people that we know of. Well, I mean, they don't, I mean, they don't attribute him to this, okay, this one, but it's just weird. They never pushed it. They just always do. Okay, he found her. Yeah, okay. Police search all of his properties, but no physical evidence is found. They cannot catch a break. On March all of his properties, but no physical evidence is found. They cannot catch a break on March 22nd 1984 the suspects sits down with police for his second interview this time everyone including him knows

He's a suspect for murder. He lays out his timeline Stating that he watched a movie before heading back to the civic theater to do more work So he was working there took a break went and watched a movie So he says he he gets done with his movie at 11 in heads back, so that he has time to crawl up in there, fall through the plaster, hit his head, fall asleep before Steve gets there at midnight. Yeah. Cops check.

The movie he watched didn't get over until a little before 12, which is when Steve arrives. There's no way he could have went up there, fell through, fell asleep in the couch. Went and heard the phone ring fell back asleep before Steve arrived. Okay, yeah. This is important because he's trying to set up

a timeline that makes more sense, but it just doesn't when you know that the time movie got over. As well as him ignoring the phone call that ended up being from his wife to see where he was. So remember the first time he's like, I hit my head, I felt the phone rang, but I didn't answer it. That's him also setting up a timeline because he knows someone called the theater, expecting him to be there. Got it. Because he was working and it was, it was his wife calling to

say, Hey, what are you doing? Where are you? He says he fell back asleep. And according to him, he didn't wake up until 5 a.m. where he decided that the call was most likely his wife wondering where he was. So he panicked and called her back five hours later. Okay. All that time, sleep is his alibi. His wife states that he never slept over

on a job site like that. That's why she was calling him. He states that he left to go home but realizes that his wife would already be gone for work when he got there. So he drove back to the theater to use the phone and call her again. His story is just all over the place. Yeah. He told cops that he moved his vehicle from the front of the theater into the back around this time so that he could easily load his tools into his car. Okay.

He's just still all over the place. Fills as if he's trying to explain away, any way that someone else would have seen him or not heard from him or heard from him, you know what I'm saying. In 1982, a little girl named Darryl and Johnson went missing while walking to school in Nampa, Idaho and was found days later on the edge of none other than the snake river. So they never, they haven't obviously haven't charged them or anything yet. No. So he's still to the Roman around.

No, I'm just telling you another case. Okay. Um, her body was found within miles of land that was owned by Guess who? No way. Our main suspect. The Darlin girl who was kidnapped is literally identical to 12-year-old Christina White. And I will post a picture and we will show you on YouTube right now, like insane, uncanny. How similar they look.

The suspect tells police that he had been arrested before on June 5th in 1972. He was a, so this is before all these cases. So he keeps going to different towns. So is this to like confuse the police? Like is this strategic? But it's like close enough that like of course they were going to hear. He's basically stayed in Idaho this whole time. Uh-huh. But it's like if you're going to like go from state to state to state, because it's way less likely, especially back then it was unlikely, which is why these connections are just being made now.

And it's not like official connections. He's not necessarily declared a suspect in this little girls in Boise's murder, but it's like, what are the chances that he owns land miles away from it? You know what I'm saying? The suspect tells police that he had been arrested before on June 5th in 1972.

He was arrested in San Jose, California for breaking into a mortuary, He had been arrested before on June 5th in 1972. He was arrested in San Jose, California for breaking into a mortuary, which was housing the body of a 17-year-old named Antoné Anino who had died of suspicious circumstances a couple days earlier. He broke in with a hunting knife, camera, and flashlight, and was arrested.

She was the only body in the morgue at the time. Anne's one that and her boyfriend had gotten into an argument like a couple days earlier and sat down on the sand of the beach to talk about it. 15 minutes later, her boyfriend left telling her that when she calms down, she should come join him and his friends again, which included her brother. Like it was a whole group of people hanging out. The security guard ends up coming to them later to tell them that the boardwalk was closing and so they need to go home. So they head back to where they had left Antonette and she's

gone. Later that morning, two people who are walking on the beach, see a body floating in the water. Officers respond, there's no obvious signs of trauma or injury, but she was nude and her clothes are missing. They can't find them anywhere on the beach. So weird. Every single one of these murders is pretty different. Right? There's and seems to be no mo at all. So her death is ruled suicide by drowning, even though her clothes are never found, which I guess she could have just like left them in the water. But it feels like if she washed up her clothes, what if two. When our main suspect, this guy was trying to cut through a screen to get into the mortuary,

the owner who lived above came out and confronted him. He tells him, I'm just trying to get in to see my girlfriend one last time. That's so free. Keep in mind, he's like in his 20s at this time. Our suspect grew up in Chicago and within a couple miles from where he grew up in his 20s at this time. Our suspect grew up in Chicago, and within a couple miles from where he grew up in his neighborhood in 1963, an eight year old girl named Diane Taylor was murdered. Oh my God.

She had left her house for the five block walk to the YMCA where she was taking summer classes at 10 AM. Guess who worked at the YMCA as a youth counselor? Well, our suspects. Where she goes missing from. That's the last place she's seen. So basically he's been doing this his well, okay, we don't know if it's him yet for sure. Yeah, but come on. Basically he's been doing this his entire life. Yes, his entire life. Yeah. Her body was found a couple days later in an alley like like or an alleyway like thing. She had been sexually assaulted and a stab wound

to her heart, her two front teeth were knocked out and she had slashed ones all over her legs and arms. Give him my chest eight. Horrible. Our suspect, a 15-year-old at the time, was brought in for questioning. They let him go because they felt like it had to be someone much older. So this guy, our suspect, who's been a suspect in every single case we've talked about besides Kristen, the 22 year old on the bike, they have no way to tie him to her. Besides her, he has been around in the vicinity or owned, or owned land or broken or was in the house or was in the civic theater or was at the YMCA and was taking him for questioning around every single person has died. What are the chances? How many times can people die around you before it's like something's weird? There's no way.

So here is our suspected timeline. If we are going off our main suspect, this guy, of what police think have everything to do with the Lewis Clark Valley disappearances. 1963. Our suspect is questioned as a teenager in Chicago for the murder of an eight-year-old girl who took classes at the YMCA he worked at. In 1972, our suspect is questioned as a teenager in Chicago for the murder of an eight-year-old girl who took classes at the YMCA he worked at. In 1972, our suspect is arrested for breaking into a mortuary in San Jose, California, where he's trying to see in his words his girlfriend one last time, who had died of suspicious circumstances. In 1979, our suspect is living at the house where Christina White was last seen. In 1981, Kristen David is found murdered along the Snake River in proximity with the rest

of these crimes. That's the only connection. In February of 1982, our suspect owns land miles away from where Daryl and Johnson is found dead along the Snake River in Nampo Idaho. She went missing on her way to school. In September of 1982, our suspect is asleep in the building area where Christina Nelson, Brandi Miller and Steve Percelle go missing from. In 1984, Brandi and Christina's bodies are found in Lewiston,

and our suspect is taken into questioning. Today, as of today, all of the cases we just went over are open and unsolved besides Antoinette, the one at the mortuary, because they said she was a suicide. So is he still alive than the suspect, which is why I haven't said his name. Oh, wow. Okay. The Chicago P.E. are working with the other departments involved in the Lewis Clark Valley disappearances. Christina is still classified as a missing person.

The FBI is evaluating DNA connected to Kristen David. Steven Purcell is also a missing person and has not been ruled out as a suspect in the murder of Christina and Brandy. Has anyone else recently died close to the suspect? No, because he has since gone on and changed his name. Because every single person around the area of these people knows that he's the suspect. Okay.

But I will tell you, I had to dig, and I mean dig to find his name. His new name or his old name. Both. Okay. I know both. I'm not going to say it because I feel like there's a reason they're not saying it. And so I'm just going to respect the fact that they haven't said it. But it's insane.

He's moved. He's since moved away from the Lewis Clark area and he has changed his name. Wow. That's pretty easy. And he still has a family. Wow. Okay. So what I was going to say earlier about the walkway. So they actually found out that this guy, the movie theater member, how he said he was at a movie was in the path that these girls would have taken. Oh, so it really was. So at first they were like, the girls walked past the theater, but now they realize that they probably walked past the movie theater. Okay.

That he was at. And then what they think happened is they met there. He said, meet me at the civic theater later. I'm going there now or I'll go with you now. Walk there. Didn't know Steve was there because why would Steve have come back? He said meet me at the civic theater later. I'm going there now or I'll go with you now walk there Didn't know Steve was there because why would Steve have come back and killed well and ended up Steve either interrupted him or got it vice versa. Okay. Yeah, so that's kind of I want to clear that up Wow, it's crazy that it hasn't been solved still that blows my mind

That's so crazy and they did look at like another serial killer in the arrow was Harry Hattman at the time. And they kind of looked at him for it, but there's definitely no like. No physical evidence. And I mean, it's hard because they all do. There's no M.O. Every single murder that we've looked at or or disappearance is different. Yeah. And so that is a reason people are like, how can you time, but then at the same time, how many people can disappear or get murdered around you, literally not even just like in your town, like around you, where it's like, come on. Yeah, no, it's, yeah, that's so crazy.

So yeah, those are the, I'm calling them the Lewis Clark disappearances. You can like them up as like the Lewis Clark murders, the Lewis Clark, I don't know, missing, I don't know what you would call it. And this, the detective, I told you at the beginning, the girl, she's the one who tied all of this together. And she sent it to Chicago PD. She was the one who died. They got it all.

That's so cool. Good for her. Yeah, so check out all of our social media, murder with my husband. Our YouTube channel will have any like images or visual that goes along with this. And yeah, we will see you guys next week. I love it. And I hate it.

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