Murder With My Husband - 44. Jennifer Morey - The Dispatcher's Miracle

Episode Date: January 18, 2021

On this episode of Murder With My Husband, Payton and Garrett discuss the attack on Jennifer Morey in her apartment. LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband  Case ...Sources: https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2001/06/04/story5.html I survived, episode 11 https://www.wattpad.com/762382954-real-crime-stories-paranormal-hauntings-the https://www.houstonpress.com/news/cruz-faces-fury-after-dc-mob-chaos-11525157 https://www.girlsfightback.com/tag/jennifer-morey/  Links: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Yes, you energy, energy for everything. Captain Banner now to our podcast. This is Murder with my husband. I'm Peyton Moreland. And I'm Garrett Moreland. And he's the husband. And I'm the husband. Well, welcome back to another episode. We just want to say thank you to everyone who has subscribed to our YouTube channel and is enjoying the YouTube videos. I really enjoy doing it, so I'm glad you guys are liking it. Yeah, I think it's really fun. I'm still trying to figure out how to operate in front of the camera, but I don't got
Starting point is 00:01:17 everyone else like it. You're doing great. I'm trying. I just, I think all the wiggles out. I don't know what it is. It's a little uncomfortable. Like a podcast. I can just sit, just, I can lay down and you know, and just record it, but. We'lliggles out? I don't know what it is. It's a little uncomfortable. Like a podcast, I can just sit, just,
Starting point is 00:01:25 I can lay down and you know, and just record it. But. We'll do it. They don't care. Okay, do you have your 10 seconds for this week? I guess the 10 seconds would be, I don't know, we set all this up. Okay, we didn't set all this up,
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Starting point is 00:02:25 good one. So if you want to check it out, visit our Patreon. The link will be in the description. You can also just search murder with my husband Patreon. Okay, let's just jump right into this case. Let's do it. Our case sources this week are bizjournals.com, wappad.com, Houston Press.com, and girls fight back.com. Our story begins in April of 1995 in the great city of Houston, Texas, which I've never been to Texas, but honestly, I want to go. Neither of us have. No, I think it just feels like kind of out there for more we currently are. I think it's like a four hour flight from where we are. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if the like stigma is like this around for everyone, but like Texas has really nice houses for cheap. That's all I know, Texas for really.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, okay. I won't forget that. So anyways, we're in Houston, Texas, April 1995. Jennifer Mori is apartment hunting. She is to move to Houston soon and is looking for a complex that feels safe and secure, just like anyone else who would be looking that is listening to this podcast. According to T.P.K. Stories with Wattpad.com,
Starting point is 00:03:32 Jennifer ends up finding a complex named the Bayou Park Apartments that were close to downtown and had a full perimeter eight foot fence around the whole theme. So it's like a done, it's locked in. Is it normal to have these type of like a safety parameters in Houston? I'm gonna say no because they like pointed it out in the story that it had this. But the thing that actually sold this specific apartment complex for Jennifer was the fact that there was 24 hour security guards standing guard. That's kind of cool. 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:04:03 That's what that means. Jennifer ends up signing Elise with the Bayou Park apartments and moves into a unit on security guards, standing guard. It's kind of cool. 24 hours. That's what that means. Jennifer ends up signing Elise with the Bayou Park Apartments and moves into a unit on the second floor. Jennifer is a young lawyer. Her career is just starting. She's driven works long hours well into the night. On April 15, 1995, it was about 10 p.m.
Starting point is 00:04:22 And one of Jennifer's friends calls her to tell her that she was going to a place called the L House, which is a pub. I looked it up. Don't worry, I looked it up. Okay, I'm getting better at this. We're not going to make the same mistake we made with Minards. Minards that we can't seem to hear the end of. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:38 We're so sorry. I didn't notice like the Bible down there, I guess. So anyways, it's a pub, but it is now closed. So I also looked that up as well. And I included the article in our case sources, but would Jennifer like to tag along with her friend that's going. Jennifer says yes, meets up with her friends,
Starting point is 00:04:56 and they ride together to the L house. While at the pub, Jennifer runs into a young man who offers to give her ride back to her new apartment. She agrees and he drops her off around 1 a.m. after a fun night out with friends. Jennifer walks up the flight of stairs to her second floor apartment. She opens her front door, heads inside, closes it, locks the door and puts the dead bolt on. She goes to her bathroom and prepares for bed, washing her face, which we love a nighttime routine.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Get asked, get it. I'm religious about my night-room routine. It's true. She brushes her teeth and then goes to bed. It's early, like in the morning, not early, to go to bed. It's early in the morning. It's in like 1 a.m. to a.m.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Okay. A few hours later, Jennifer is sound asleep, but she begins to wake up. As she comes to, she feels that something is off, but her thoughts are still cloudy and she is still half asleep. It's kind of like in that in between stages, but she kind of feels like something weird is going on. A brief moment passes when Jennifer realizes she can't really move. There's like pressure holding her body onto her bed. What? In a stomach-dropping moment, Jennifer realizes that someone is not only in her room,
Starting point is 00:06:09 but someone is on top of her in her bed. What the heck? Yeah. Someone's body weight is pressing her body down onto her bed. So she had just woken up in the middle of the night and realized, like, grogly, like, a little unsure and it's like, I can't really move, and then realize is why she can't move. Because there's someone on top of her. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:29 As Jennifer is discovering the reality of her situation and confirming that she is in fact awake and not dreaming, the person on top of her begins reaching at her underwear trying to yank them off. Confused, all Jennifer can think about is the feeling of the man's coarse leg hair against her smooth legs So she's like still kind of days and she can fill him tugging at her underwear But it still really hasn't completely hit her because she's still waking up and all that can run through her mind is
Starting point is 00:06:57 His legs are so like hairy on my legs. So she's not drugged or anything right? No, but she you have to keep in mind. She was out probably drinking. Okay. And then she went to bed early. And this is only a couple hours later. So you know, she's it's kind of just like a she's way out of it. Jennifer begins to struggle reaching her hands out of her sheets only to discover that she had touched she had reached her hands up and touched a knife that was being held against her throat. Oh, man. And it was that moment that completely woke Jennifer out of her story.
Starting point is 00:07:31 The journal and just spirits. She was no longer muddled or confused. She acknowledges that she is in fact being attacked and raped right now in her own bed. She begins fighting, fighting her attacker. She is screaming at him to please stop. Don't hurt her. She is pushing and kicking, trying to move the knife away from her neck. Jennifer reaches up and grabs her attacker's hand.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And he immediately responds. And Jennifer fills a blow to her right eye, followed by warm liquid streaming down her face. It takes a moment, but she realizes that he had used the knife and slashed her eye open. Oh, I thought he just punched her. No, it's the blood coming out of her eye. Oh, man. This she can feel.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Jennifer has a moment of clarity with herself. She comes to the conclusion that if she doesn't get this guy off of her, he will kill her. Like, he just slashed her eye open. It doesn't matter how bad her eye hurt, she could not die like this in her bed. Jennifer tries to study the man on top of her, but all she can see is the outline of his hair, which seems short and straight.
Starting point is 00:08:37 As she struggles with her intruder, she is screaming as loud as she can. Keep in mind, she's in an apartment building. Someone had to be hearing her. I forgot about that. Like, she's screaming. Do you know what floor she was on? Second mind, she's in an apartment building. Someone had to be hearing her. I forgot about that. Like, she screamed. Do you know what floor she was on? Second.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And she's like, someone's got to hear. She's thinking as she's screaming just scream loud enough so someone can hear like, I'm in an apartment building. As she's screaming, the man says, Jennifer, shut the heck up.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Well, he doesn't say heck, but for our podcast. Shut the heck up. So as you were saying that, I was thinking, it's so scary because I feel like whenever you talk about these cases like this, it's always somebody that the victim knows.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Like almost always someone that the victim knows. And imagine how chilling that would be to hear someone say your name as they're trying to rape you. That's so scary. When up to this point, she was like trying to study him and was like, I don't know this man. That's so crazy. This guy knew her name.
Starting point is 00:09:30 She knew the man that was raping her. She tries her hardest to recognize his voice, but cannot figure it out as they're struggling. Jennifer keeps screaming and her attacker reaches down and slits her throat open. What? As she realizes what happened, she feels like she's going to die.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Now, not only is her eye literally slid open, there's blood all over her face. She was screaming so loud that the attacker slid her throat. And now that blood is going everywhere. She would do anything to live right now, but how many more slashes, stab wounds can she take?
Starting point is 00:10:03 The attacker then tells her not to look at him anymore, or he would kill her. And although Jennifer wanted to keep fighting, she had been fighting this whole time. She felt that if she just did what this man said, she might get out alive. So she turns her head away, closes her eyes, and adores the attack. Completely stops fighting. The man does not succeed at raping her. And I think this means that he couldn't. He gets up. And according to Wattpad.com, drags Jennifer by her hair across her bedroom and then tells her to get into the bathroom. That's in her apartment.
Starting point is 00:10:38 When you say get her in the bathroom, do you mean like put her in the tub or the shower just get in the bathroom? Okay. At this point, Jennifer's attacker heads back into her bedroom to get the knife. He forgot it. And Jennifer realizes this and slams the door to the bathroom. She slams it shut, but then realizes that there's no lock on this bathroom door. Oh, so can you imagine how scary? Like, oh, I finally got away from him, but crap, there's no lock. But there's no lock. So she presses her body against the door, but then realizes it's not going to be enough
Starting point is 00:11:09 to hold it. So she sits down with her back against the door and presses her feet with her legs straight into the side of the tub. Oh, got it. So essentially, he would have to break her legs to get the door open with her sitting like that, or she would have to bend. And then the door would open. As Jennifer is sitting there, she's being quiet. She can hear the chilling sound of this man who would just attack her moving around her apartment
Starting point is 00:11:33 on the other side of the door. So she's just sitting there like is he about to come in here and all she can hear is him like shuffling. Is she still screaming at this point or she quiet? She's dead quiet. Okay. Can you just imagine how scary? Mm-hmm. It sounds as if he's moving things, grabbing things and putting them back down. Then she hears the sound of the intruder getting dressed and Slowly she hears him zipping up his pants Like can you just imagine that sound in the world? This whole situation is so terrifying
Starting point is 00:12:03 But to make it worse, Jennifer is sitting on the floor of her bathroom now in a pool of her own blood. Because keep in mind, her throat has been slit. So her wounds are bleeding so profusely that there's just blood everywhere. She scoots over to the toilet quickly and grabs the whole roll of toilet paper, not like just grabs the roll and pushes it against her throat. Because she's like, I, you know, again, anyone would think I have to stop this bleeding. She realizes that she doesn't have much longer. She's feeling weaker. She's getting light-headed, like she's losing blood. She knows that she can't just sit in this bathroom scared or else she's gonna die. So she creduously just says, I'm gonna take the risk. I'm gonna leave the bathroom. Like,
Starting point is 00:12:44 I've got to get out of this apartment She still hear him in the no, it's dead quiet at the point She struggles as she stands up to open the door cuz keep in mind like she's she has to stand up Trying to be quiet, but she realizes that she has so much blood on her hands that she can't get a grip on the handle because it's just covered in blood So once she finally does get a grip on the handle because it's just covered in blood. So once she finally does get a hold of the handle, she goes to pull the door open and she has jammed it shut by pushing her back into it so hard. So she can't get the door open
Starting point is 00:13:13 because she jammed it so hard with her body. Okay, so she almost like, okay. She jammed herself into the bathroom trying to keep him out. So she realizes that she is going to have to loudly yank at this door. Oh, no. But she was planning to have to loudly yank at this door. Oh, no. Which she was planning to try to be quiet to slip out. But it was either that or bleed to death.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That's what she's thinking. So she just begins yanking like loudly. Jennifer jerks the door open in the middle of the night and slowly crawls out. So she goes back down onto her knees. I'm surprised no one has heard any of this. So she's thinking like, I was screaming. How is no one over at my apartment yet? I feel like when we lived in that apartment,
Starting point is 00:13:49 yeah, you can hear everything. You can hear everything. Everything. Everything. Just see you. How has nobody come over to see if she's okay? How are the cops not here yet? Someone surely heard her.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Someone surely called. Someone cared. Jennifer slowly tries to turn the lights on and none of them are working. So she tries to find her phone and it too is not working. The intruder had cut her power lines, which just crazy. She stops dead in her tracks at this moment. Reality setting in that she was too busy trying to find a way to get out of this. She still has no idea whether this guy is in her apartment or not. So she's like completely vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:14:25 It's dark. She's bleeding. She can barely see. Is he behind the couch? Is he in the kitchen? Like I cannot imagine how scary that would be. Jennifer is like, okay, I gotta get my head on straight. She reaches around for her cell phone, finds it eventually and calls 911.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I can't find a copy of this call anywhere on Google, but I like, did hear portions of it on one of the sources I used. So if I can find like a usable copy, we will insert it for you so you can listen to some of the clip. Please call me. Jennifer just sounds in shock on the clip. She can't really comprehend what happened.
Starting point is 00:15:09 She calls and she's like, someone broken in my apartment. He cut me. I don't know how this could happen. I don't even know who he is. She's calm, like she's not yelling. But she's also, I think she's just like in shock about what's happening. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:18:43 and have faith in like a stellar job from this dispatcher. I'm like, She's so many to come over. She's gonna die from losing all that blood. She's getting weaker like she's sounding delirious. She's not if he like if this guy comes back in, She's not going to be able to fight him. That's how weak she is. Around 15 minutes into this 911 call, which that is just such a long call. That's a long call. Jennifer hears a pounding on her front door. Jennifer tells the dispatcher, oh, the police are here. They're here. The dispatcher urgently says, no,
Starting point is 00:19:14 Jennifer, I have the Houston Fire and Police Department on my screen and they are not at your And so she walks over the door and she says hello and she tells this batch that it is her apartment security, the 24-hour security. But she can't see out the people because she doesn't have her contacts in and there's so much blood in her face, which I can relate to that hardcore, not being able to see because no contacts. How does she know security that they say were a security? Yeah, this is security.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like, are you okay? You know, and the security guard tells her to open the door. He can help her, like, you know, she was attacked. And the dispatcher tells Jennifer, you know, if you are not for sure because you can't see how that people don't open the door. Like it's probably security. It most likely is security, but let's just wait.
Starting point is 00:20:11 The police are almost there. Let's just wait. That's smart. And she's like, well, he can help me. He's like, no, let's just wait. Keep the door closed. The security guard will not go away. He keeps pounding on the door, telling Jennifer,
Starting point is 00:20:23 he will show her his badge. She just needs to open the door for him. She needs to open the door. He can identify himself. And Jennifer currently has a slash on her right eye. Her throat is cut. And the cut to her throat has actually nicked her jugular vein. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:20:39 So it's not like cut, but it's like it's bleeding. She has a stab wound to her throat as well. It's not only did he slash, he stabbed, and she has two more stab wounds into her arm. How is she even moving at this point? No idea. She's delirious. Time is moving slow.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Like she's like, it's just a complete days for her. And this guy's pounding on her door and dispatches in her ear, like don't open it. And she's like, I just need help. Like, it's been 15 minutes, I need help, I want to open the door and he's like, don't open the door. The dispatcher eventually tells Jennifer that the police and fire are there
Starting point is 00:21:14 and at about that same time, Jennifer can hear lots of commotion and voices outside so she opens the door and as soon as she opens the door, she collapses onto the ground and And it's like done. Because she just is fighting. Yeah. She hears throughout the commotion
Starting point is 00:21:29 that a security guard has also been injured by the attacker, the one that was out there had been injured. By the attacker, that's how he knew the attack. The one that was knocking on the door. Yes, yes. Oh, I thought for a second that maybe he was the one that attacked her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And so she hears them saying like, oh, he was injured. That's how he knows an attacker had come. He had tried to stop the attacker when the attacker had jumped out of Jennifer's apartment window, but could not stop him after wrestling him to the ground. The attacker ran away. Whoa. Did the security guards have guns or tasers or anything? No, I did. When Jennifer was taking to the hospital, police searched her apartment and found a pair of underwear, a hat, a belt, and a glove. The hat they found in Jennifer's apartment, left there from her attacker, was a security guard hat from the apartment complex.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Police immediately re-interviewed the so-called injured security guard who had come in contact with the supposed attacker and discover that he has blood on his socks, no underwear on, and blood on his stomach. I didn't even put two and two together for a second that he could have been lying and faking it. The on-duty security guard from Jennifer's safe apartment complex had broken into apartment, raped, and attempted to kill her, well attempted to rape her or kill her. Yeah. He had then come back moments later.
Starting point is 00:22:49 To try to finish her off. Try to get the evidence and kill her. Wow. But Jennifer would not open her front door because the dispatcher told her not to. 20 people in the apartment complex had woke up during Jennifer's attack to her screams and not one of them called police. That's so surprising. I sometimes think like it's like the what would you do with what's his name?
Starting point is 00:23:13 I think people are just like, maybe you're just fighting or maybe... It's okay, like you don't want to think the worst. You don't want to think, oh there's a girl in there getting killed. I want to think that I would call the police but like... That's scary too. I I really hope if we're ever in that situation that I'm like I don't care I'm calm the police. Yeah. Doctors and police consider Jennifer a miracle. There was blood all of her apartment on the ceiling everywhere. She was covered in blood. The apartment was covered in blood. She truly fought for
Starting point is 00:23:42 her life. 26-year-old Brian Wayne Gibson was convicted of aggravated burglary with intent to commit sexual assault. So that doesn't say attempted murder. A couple sources said that he was convicted of that, but then a couple didn't. So I'm not sure, but I don't think so because he was only sentenced to 20 years in prison. So strange to me. It's like, I can stab someone a couple of times, but it's not a time to murder, but maybe it is like you said. Yeah. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:13 But even then, like 20 years, if she had died, it would have been life in prison. But because she didn't die because she thought it was 20 years. You know what I'm saying? Jennifer and her 911 dispatcher, whose name was Richard Beckett, remained friends to this day. Good job, Richard. He attended Jennifer's wedding, and it is rumored, and by rumored, I mean true, because I fixed that later, to have been Richard's first shift as a dispatcher. No way.
Starting point is 00:24:41 That is the coolest thing we've ever heard. Go Richard. Go Richard. That's awesome. Yeah. First shift. Uh-huh. So according to Steve McVicker with the Houston press after the attack Jennifer filed a lawsuit against Pinkerton security, which is the the business that hired the security for the department complex. Okay. While researching this suit for the department complex. Okay. While researching this suit,
Starting point is 00:25:04 she and her attorney learned that Brian Gibson was far from the first Pinkerton guard to have situations like this happen. Really? Texas State Records show that between 1991 and 1995, approximately 130 Pinkerton guards or people recently employed as Pinkerton guards were convicted of felonies.
Starting point is 00:25:28 That's got to be, that's a lot. And they're security guards. Yeah. In St. And I went down this rabbit hole where a lot of these people, these guards were convicted of like sexual felonies. Oh, okay. And it's like, but Pinkerton kept hiring them. So she sued Pinkerton
Starting point is 00:25:45 like you should have done better research. There's no reason this guy should have been Totally a security guard and she wins and it the money that she won isn't Discussed it. Yeah, okay. It's rumored that Brian Wade Gibson is now out of prison and on parole So because this was in the 1990s and and he was only convicted of 20 years. Okay. I could not find like a professional source for information on that, but I did look him up on the sex offender registry,
Starting point is 00:26:12 and I did find him. Okay. And his like address, I'm not sure if that means he's out or if that was like a former address or whatever, but I did find him and that he's, I think he's released. I guess I'm trying to wrap my mind around it because he almost killed someone.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And now he's out. And now he's out of prison. And now he's out of prison. Please be careful because he would have killed her. He came back to kill her to kill her, but she didn't open the door. No, like I, I don't even understand. I don't understand, but that's the story of Jennifer Maury, freaking bad a woman who fought. There's no reason she should have lived through that attack.
Starting point is 00:26:49 So as far as true crime goes, I think, I don't know if I want to say like I enjoy the I survived, but I do like the I survived stories a lot more than. Yeah. Well, they have a better ending. Most of the victims. Cool. I'm quote, I'm quote, happy ending. Yeah. I mean, I, I will say Jennifer did struggle
Starting point is 00:27:07 after for years and it did take her a while, but she has now since come out and said, I've gone on, I'm a lawyer, like I've moved on, but did take her a while. Is the way she handled everything, she's like, insane. It's like so well. Also, to think that she was a fighter type, right?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like, she was a fighter. Yeah, fighter flight. She was fighting him. And the fact that she had to tell herself stop fighting to survive, or else he's literally going to kill you. He's used the weapon on you. He doesn't care. So she had to turn away and just say, OK,
Starting point is 00:27:39 I think that shows like just as good of strength, you know, as like someone who's just going to fight till the death because that was also a way for her to be smart enough to go, I, this is how I have to get out of this. Why, why did he leave? What made him leave? No, I did. I wonder if he like freaked out.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I don't know. I wonder if he was thinking, oh, someone's got someone heard. Or she thinks he, or he thinks she was dead because she was being quiet in the bathroom. Yeah, I got to the room. But I, I don't know why he went check. Also, I do, I could not find it. I looked for so long.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I do not know how he got in her apartment. Oh, okay. That's, so that's something else I was gonna ask. The front door was dead bolted. But I figured he got in through the, through the window. The second story. How did he get up there? I mean, he could have climbed up there.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I mean, so our apartment was in the second story. You could have climbed up there. Yeah, that's true. And I think he exited through that, and that's why he said he saw the attacker exit through. So maybe he did have a ladder there or something. I'm not sure. I could not find it anywhere. And I was like, how has someone not told me how he got into it?
Starting point is 00:28:43 That's interesting. Because I think it's weird that when he came back, there was 15 minutes where he was banging on her door or whatever. I mean, I don't know if it was that long, but it was quite a long time. Why didn't he just go back up the ladder? Or why didn't he just go back up the way he got
Starting point is 00:28:55 and why did he stand at the door? You know what I'm saying, but as a, okay, she's not letting me in. She's not letting me in. And I tried to point. My guess is he was gonna go in, kill her, get the evidence, go back out the front door and be like someone attacked me or in. I don't know, I tried to. My guess is he was gonna go in, kill her, get the evidence, go back out the front door and be like,
Starting point is 00:29:07 someone attacked me or something. Like he was trying to plan, what's the best way for me to look innocent? Just why leave your underwear in there? I mean, I'm sure. Because I'll tell you why criminals are stupid. That's why. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Very, very late, do we find a smart criminal? I'm just glad that she's alive. I am too. I am too. I am too. And I think that it's good. I mean, she's personally shared her story on I Survive. And that was one of my sources. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:33 But I think it's important to just show that, like, you know, you can fight, you cannot fight, you can do whatever you're still a victim. It doesn't matter what happens. You are a victim and everyone respects you and everyone respects your story. And I mean, yeah, that's all we have for this story, but I just want to give another reminder about our Patreon episodes this week. If you are caught up and you are just dying to hear from me and Garrett some more, go visit our Patreon. Yeah, we're actually really
Starting point is 00:30:02 excited to do our Patreon. To do those extra episodes, it's gonna be really fun. And there are other fun things that come along with our Patreon. It will grow. Yeah, the bloopers. Yeah. Sometimes we cut things out when we're videoing or podcasting general. Mainly because we're both dumb. Pain and I are both kind of crazy.
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