Murder With My Husband - 48. Zack and Addie - The love tragedy

Episode Date: February 15, 2021

In this episode of murder with my husband, Payton tells Garrett the story of Zack and Addie. LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband https://ghostcitytours.com/new-...orleans/ghost-stories/zack-addie/  https://www.historicmysteries.com/zach-bowen-addie-hall-murder/ Handsome Devils S1 E2 https://delanirbartlette.medium.com/the-gruesome-tale-of-zack-bowen-and-addie-hall-and-what-it-says-about-our-fascination-with-true-5c6170a0b0f6  https://whereyat.com/the-tragedy-of-zach-addie  https://www.historicmysteries.com/zach-bowen-addie-hall-murder/  https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/movies_tv/article_e3ad2f7f-838d-57d8-bbd8-eddc97a1a26d.html  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kac2LCIZ5IA Socials https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband  Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Yes, you energy, energy for everything. Captain Banner now to our podcast. This is murder with my husband. I'm Peyton Moreland and I'm Garrett Moreland and he's the husband and I'm the husband. For this week's 10 seconds, I'm going to actually go ahead and still get it's 10 seconds. Alright, let's hear it. It's so sick and tired of sharing the line with you. Let's hear your 10 seconds. OK, my 10 seconds is that I got my hair done finally.
Starting point is 00:01:11 It's the first time I've got it done in a really long time. And it kind of looks the same, but I did get these little cute blonder pieces in front. So if you are listening on podcast, go ahead and check us out on YouTube so you can see my new hairdo. She looks very pretty. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Also an FYI for all our YouTube viewers. I'm moving around a lot. I'm sorry. Guess got the wiggles. I do got the wiggles. Okay. So our case sources are ghostcitytours.com, historic mysteries.com, a show called Handsome Devils, season one, episode two, where you at.com, a show called Handsome Devils season one episode two,
Starting point is 00:01:46 where you at.com, Nola.com, YouTube, because Brittany Vaughan does an episode on this and it's really good. And delinearbarlett.medium.com. Okay, let's just get right into this week's story. Let's do it. Our story takes place in French quarter New Orleans. We're in the year 2006. So they say this case is one of the most infamous murders in New Orleans history. Okay. Ghost City Tours refers to it as a sad tell of an aspiring poet and her wounded soldier
Starting point is 00:02:21 of mental illness, suicide and murder. They include the quote from Stephen King on their website, Monsters are real and ghosts are too. They live inside us and sometimes they win. Wow. Okay. Our case starts detective Tom Moravick with the New Orleans Police Department response to a scene that's been ruled a suicide. A young man had jumped from the seventh floor of the Omni Royal Orleans Hotel onto the top floor of the neighboring parking garage on October 17th 2006. The coroner's office in an attempt to identify the person starts rummaging through the pockets on the clothes and come across a small plastic baggy with a folded piece of paper and some
Starting point is 00:03:05 military dog tags. The dog tags had the name Zach Bowen on them and the piece of paper had four police only written on the outside. The note stated that Zach had to take his own life because of the life he took, which he went on to explain meant he had killed his girlfriend and in return killed himself as well. There was an address written on the note and some gate keys to an apartment inside Zack's pocket. Police had directly to the address written on the note they talked to the landlord and
Starting point is 00:03:39 discovered that the home belonged to their victim, Zac Bowen, and his girlfriend, Addy Hall. Oh, no. Once inside, police stumble upon an eerie scene, and I will put up the photos of this house on our social media so you can see the magnitude of this case, or if you are watching YouTube, they will be included right now so I would highly suggest doing that. The apartment was dishevelled from first glance. Police noticed the temperature is set to a brisk 60 degrees and on full blast. Whoa. They await the suspected but undesired smell
Starting point is 00:04:14 of decomposition that they think they're, you know, going to run into, but are surprised to not find any hint of rotting flesh. I would, by the way, that's something I would do is turn there that low just because I'm more hot. Oh, oh, not if you killed someone. You're just saying in general, I'm just saying like that's not super suspicious to me because okay, okay, 60 degrees. That's pretty low.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It is pretty low, yes. But okay, I get what you're saying. It's not until police discover the riding on the walls of this home that they feel the eerie devastation that is this case. That's very cute. Spray painted in a silver color is the words. I loved her in one spot, total failure in another, call Lana Bowen on another wall. I'm sorry I couldn't finish on the bathroom wall. Help me stop the pain on another wall.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And finally across the top of two walls, look in the oven. As I'm sure your stomach just dropped whoever is listening to this right now, so did the investigators. Please make their way over to the oven or they were just instructed to look, but when they get there, don't look is spray painted on the oven door. The crime scene photos honestly look like a purposely decorated haunted house. Like that's how scary it is. It's like, it's just like, like a game. Yeah. What the heck? We are now going to bounce back 11 years to the summer of 1995 where teenagers Zach Bowen is with his dad on a road trip across America. Okay. Zach was known as a charismatic kid.
Starting point is 00:05:54 He was born on May 15, 1978 in Bakersfield, California. He was funny, charming, confident. His parents were always free spirited. They traveled the country with their two boys because Zach had a brother and they ended up in Seattle, Washington. His mom eventually files for divorce and leaves her husband back behind in Seattle just because the dad wasn't ready to like finish traveling and being free spirited. But the mom was like, okay, we've got two kids now. And like we need to be serious.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Okay. Zach was class clown. He was six foot 10, which he was super insecure about. That's tall. Yes, very, but he was still very tall. He was popular though, but he did have some insecurities. His feet were big. He was super tall.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Did he play any sports? I don't think so. That's the first question. I don't. Gosh, every single guy. I was a single tall person who's the first question. I know. Gosh, every single tall person who's listening to this thing is great. I know. They're hating right now.
Starting point is 00:06:50 As if they don't get that question 50 times a day. Oh, did you play basketball? Yeah. I know. So Zach wanted to move back with his dad at this point, but his mom was worried. His Zach's dad was still a partier, still a free spirit person.
Starting point is 00:07:01 But she allowed Zach to go, as was probably, you know, more like his dad than her and she didn't want to, you know, crush his dreams. So he leaves high school. He drops out. Okay. On this road trip, when Zach and his dad, they come across newer leans and Zach decides, hey, this is where I want to stay. I like the carefree atmosphere.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I feel like this is my heart, like this is where I'm supposed to be. Okay. So his dad's like, yeah, have fun teenagers, Zach and takes off without him to continue road tripping. And Zach stays back in New Orleans to as a teenager, which is what the mom was talking about. Which she was saying, your dad's such a free spirit. Zach lands a job in New Orleans pretty fast. And it's at a walk up bar.
Starting point is 00:07:43 He's like a bartender as like a 17 year old. Wow. Yeah. And he meets a woman named Lana, who was a dancer from Texas. She was immediately attracted by his easy going and fun personality. That convinces her to move to New Orleans. And she, because she was just visiting when they met. So she decides, okay, I'm gonna move. So they begin dating right away. And Lana, quickly and accidentally becomes pregnant. Keep in mind, Zach is only 17, 18 years old. And Lana was 27. So when she finds out how old Zach is,
Starting point is 00:08:16 she's like, you know, what the heck? She breaks up with him and tells him, you know, I'm gonna have this child anyway, but do not feel pressured to be in this child's life. You are just a kid yourself. Like I don't want you to feel pressured to like grow up and you know, do this with me. That's a hard age gap at that age.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Cause, yeah, that's just hard. It's a pretty big age gap. She doesn't think that it's fair really for him to have to do this. Yes. So Zach says, non-sense in Aslonna to marry him. He's like, I'm gonna raise this baby with you. We're gonna be a family together. Okay, hold on. I's like, I'm gonna raise this baby with you. We're gonna be a family together.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Okay, hold on. I'm sorry and I'm sure everyone's gonna be mad. But is anyone else wondering in this just hit? What's in the oven? Or is that just me? We're gonna get back to it. Be patient. Because I don't know if they open it.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I left you on a screen. Yeah, they didn't open the oven. Well said, don't look. It's true. Okay, so in May of 2000, Lana and Zach have another child. And at this point, it's hard on both Zach and Lana. Zach needs a better job, you know, now that they have another mouth to feed. So he decides to join the army and he immediately gets deployed.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Now I have the utmost respect for those who put their lives on the line to serve us and our country. We need to openly talk about how hostile and mentally destructive it can be to serve in the military. When people want to kill you and you can watch your greatest friends, you know, who serve next to you die, it is mentally hard. Like what are these soldiers and go through is insane, the fact that they do this. And so a lot happens while Zach is in the military. Children that he became friends with overseas are turned around and killed for talking to an American,
Starting point is 00:09:53 which is him and that hits hard on him. One of his best friends was killed. He had to have surgery on his feet because they were so big, it really hurt to put him in the military boots. And his wife, Lana, who eventually does move over to be closer to him, was not accepted by the other military wives on base. And so there was just drama with that. And so this goes on for years.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And he did very well in the military. Like he escalated, he was popular, like people liked him. But because of all this pressure of these people dying next to me and these kids getting killed and the relationship is hard with my wife, he purposely begins failing his PT tests in hopes of getting discharged after he had surgery. So he gets discharged right or he's doing this, try to get discharged and it works. He was a good soldier, but he received a general discharge, which means he basically lost all of his benefits.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Because he was... Oh, so it was a dis-honorable, it wasn't like that? It wasn't a dis-honorable discharge, it's just called a general discharge, but I read and they're basically the same thing. And he had signed like a term, and he was almost to the end of his term, but he literally just couldn't do it anymore.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Like he just eaten him up inside. And he had excelled, like I said. So all of his directors were like, come on, dude. Like he just finished your term. Like what's going on? Yeah, and he's like, oh, I just can't pass my PT test. And so that's why they generally discharged. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:23 When Zach came home from war, everyone in his life says he was different. He was no longer the enthusiastic, rambunctious, like I'm just gonna stay here in New Orleans and create a life Zach that everyone knew. He's described as damaged, emotionless, empty. Because of this, Lana and Zach quickly split up just six months after Zach returned home from duty.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Wow. Zach just wasn't the same person Lana had married or fell in love with. In the summer of 2005, now 27 years old and separated from his first wife, Zach begins working on finding the old charismatic version of himself. He's like, okay, I've gone, I really need to start working on this. He gets a graveyard shift as a bartender, which he loves, like being a bartender, like he loves it. And he does his best to engage with his customers.
Starting point is 00:12:14 At this job, Zach turns his eye to a lady who works the shift after his, so she works daytime. This lady was Addy Hall, who we learned about in the beginning was the girlfriend. Addy was a free spirited Bohemian being. She was a dancer, a painter, a poetry writer, a lover of life in the arts. She didn't have a car. She wrote her bike around wherever she needed to go. She was kind, funny, a costume maker, and very smart. So think of kind of like a very happy, hippie phase. Just go with the flow.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Kind of like how Zach was it seemed like when he first moved to the mood. Yes, yes, but on extremely. Okay. But Adi had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and would irregularly take her medication so this can obviously cause some uncontrolled outbursts at times. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:04 She grew up in North Carolina under an abusive household and she dropped out of high school to travel the country. She would get in fights with other bartenders. She could be called violent and a mean drunk, but she really liked to drink and do drugs like she was all about that lifestyle. Although Adi could be violent, she could get in fights. Zach was immediately attracted to her and began pursuing her. Adi was not about it.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Zach thought too hard about people pleasing in her opinion. And his personality was just too uptight. He was ex-military way too serious type of person. And keep in mind, Zach was working on becoming more free spirit like he used to be. So this tells you how free spirit it at he was. What's that movie we just watched the other day? The husband was in the military.
Starting point is 00:13:53 She was more free spirit. And they used to be. Yours mine and ours. You're literally in that situation. Okay. But he's not actually like that. Yeah. He is also free spirit it.
Starting point is 00:14:03 He's just not as free spirit it is. Okay. This and stop Zach. He kept trying free-spirited. He's just not as free-spirited as I did. This didn't stop Zach. He kept trying every day to win her over and one night it worked. Addy tells her friends that her and Zach are getting very close and Zach tells his mom, you know, I've met my soulmate. That's what he says. They were both extremely happy and in love, but Zach had been hiding the fact that he had an ex-wife and children. Oh, so she's a novice. No.
Starting point is 00:14:25 And when Addy finds out about it, she's unhappy. But she's like, you know what, whatever, I'm going to stay with him. OK. On August 23rd, 2005, Hurricane Katrina made its way to New Orleans. And the devastation turned everyone's lives upside down. And this is in the midst of Addy and Zach falling in love. 80% of the city is underwater. 200,000 homes are destroyed.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And 1,800 people are dead. I think I was pretty young still, but. I remember it. I remember it. So most people left the city due to the suggestion from the mayor saying we need to evacuate. Like this is going to destroy the city. But carefree, Zach, and Adi are like, you know what,
Starting point is 00:15:06 we're going to ride this storm. Like this was made for us. Like we are going to sit here and we are going to ride this out. And it's going to be fine. So Zach and Adi are holed up in the apartment for days during the storm. And then the aftermath is just the two of them there together, helping neighbors around to rebuild their lives.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And during this time, they are like, we're thriving. There's no electricity. There's no jobs. They're just loving this. Loving it. They're doing barbecues, parties out on the ruined streets. Like feeding neighbors, feeding people like this is their dream essentially. And because of this, their relationship is thriving. They have no responsibility, really. Addie and Zach were even photographed together for national magazines amidst the wreckage and interviewed about their choice to stay in the city and fight and rebuild and
Starting point is 00:15:58 just embrace this lifestyle. Yeah. That's kind of cool. So falling in love admits the ruins of New Orleans, like just a severe hopeless romantic. Shelley Barclay with historic mystery says the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina was like a camping trip to the young couple. They lived without electricity, drink, what they had, traded booze for water, and lived a life without responsibility beyond survival. But Zach and Adi were neglecting all responsibility while living this no-order
Starting point is 00:16:29 life. Zach didn't have a phone to call his wife, children, or mom. Check on these people who had also just had their lives ruined. Everyone was worried if he had lived through the hurricane and he was too caught up and left to notice. Everyone's like, is he even alive? There's no electricity. there's no fun. I didn't even think about that. It's so different, like with social media and a phone now. You know someone's alive, because they posted or owe this.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Yeah. And so as time went by and normality was being returned to the city, it caught up to Zach and Adi. Life was coming back to hit them in the face. This little life for only room for the two of them no longer existed. Zach finds work at a grocery store and Adi at a bar again. Jumping into an ad and it is native. I use their body wash. I use their shampoo. We use their sunscreen, everything. They're deodorant. We are big native fans over here.
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Starting point is 00:20:10 Is it betterhelp.com slash husband today and get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp. H-E-L-P.com slash husband. A month after Katrina, Zach contacts the rest of his family. A month after Katrina hit. He'd site Street Chow. Yeah. He apologizes for going missing and all this has like there's a lot of drama involved in this whole situation. I was sorry I was gone for a month. And on the kids too. Yeah. So like I'm sorry I went missing and I will take
Starting point is 00:20:38 the kids every other weekend to make up for it. This becomes a problem for Adi. She didn't want the X wife to call the shots. She didn't want responsibility during their off period right after Katrina with no work and responsibility. Zach and Adi had spent most of their time partying and drinking and doing drugs. And so now getting back to real life, they were still addicted. So she's like, I don't want these kids like I'm still doing drugs. I'm still drinking by the time they get back to real life. The drug abuse is real. They are fighting the relationship is spiraling. Zach had jealousy issues with Adi at the bar because she was you know trying to make tips trying to do her thing. And all the
Starting point is 00:21:17 wild Zach begins suffering very hard from PTSD and depression from the war. Okay. The drugs only making it worse. You think Hurricane Katrina hit so there's this disaster. It triggers his PTSD and he's heavily using drugs. Yeah. His emotions are heightened to say the least. Oh, over the place. Zach decides that he's no longer going to sit around
Starting point is 00:21:37 while Adi parties at work. He begins sneaking out and participating in one night's stands of his own. Oh. He begins cheating on Adi, which let's keep mine. Adi wasn't cheating on him. She was just working. And not only with women, Zach announces he's bisexual and begins in an affair with a man. And he's going around to the gay bars around the Orleans area.
Starting point is 00:21:59 At this point, Adi wants out, but it's a kind of, I don't't want you but I don't want anyone else to have you type relationship. Addy and Zach move into a new apartment together even though all this is going on above a voodoo shop temple and Addy secretly signs the lease as only under her name with the landlord. Okay. When they go to move in, Zach finds out and gets mad. Adi says, you can't live here. It's my house. This relationship is beyond toxic, like beyond their fighting, their aggressive, their physical, their drugged out, like they're drinking it's bad.
Starting point is 00:22:35 At around 1 a.m. on Thursday, October 5th, 2006, Zach begins strangling Adi during one of their brawls. He strangles her for so long that Adi eventually loses consciousness and dies. Zach is drunk and regretful. He falls asleep next to her dead body on the sofa. Now this is about to just escalate really quick and I'm going to give a fair warning. Like this next thing, I mean, think of everything we have going on drugs, alcohol, PTSD, a very unhealthy relationship. It's about to get really wild here. Okay. So he wakes
Starting point is 00:23:12 up after after strangling the love of his life. He commits necrophilia with Adi's body and then grabs her diary to write in it. He writes today is Monday Monday 16th October 2am. So this isn't really going to make that much sense. I killed her at 1am Thursday 5 October. So those two dates like don't correlate at all. Okay. I very calmly strangled her. It was very quick. He writes, we fought over the apartment. She tried to kick me out and we argued she wouldn't shut up. He writes in the note that he violated the body, which is how we know that he did that. A very calmly, that's exact where he used to strangled her.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yes. Oh, it's weird. The notes in the diary was a combination of rage and love. Like he's going back and forth. He hates or he loves her. Because of the heat, Adi's body begins to decompose in the apartment. And although Zach is strung out, he is like, ooh, it stinks in here,
Starting point is 00:24:11 I need to get rid of this smell. So he sets the temperature in the apartment to below 60 degrees. He puts Addy's body in the bathtub and he writes in the journal about how, you know, I gotta figure out how I'm gonna dispose of this corpse. Why is he writing all this in the journal?
Starting point is 00:24:24 Every day. He writing everything in her diary. He calls some friends and tells them, You know, I got to figure out how I'm in a dispose of this corpse. Why is he writing all this in the journal every day? Writing everything in her diary. He calls some friends and tells them, Addy left me and I'm going to go on vacation like let's get out of here. Zach then spends the next two weeks in a frenzy of sex, drugs, and booze. Two weeks. He uses up all the money he saved up. He is so far gone. He calls up Lana, his ex-wife,
Starting point is 00:24:47 and says, hey, come party with me. Lana's like, where is Adi? Like, what are you doing? Where is Adi? And he's like, oh, she went back home. We're not together anymore. And Lana's like, no, I'm not coming out. But little does she realize this is the last time she will talk to her ex-husband. is the last time she will talk to her ex-husband. Zach is in a psychotic state. He uses a cigarette to burn his body 28 times later, writing in the diary that it was for every year of his life that he was a failure. He's only 28.
Starting point is 00:25:16 So he's saying that every year of his life, oh man. He was doing cocaine, hanging out with friends, buying them lap dances and drinks. This is the last time they would ever see him though. And he writes later that this last two weeks of his life, he was going to just party, sex, like live it up, spend all my money,
Starting point is 00:25:36 and have a good time. Days later, with investigators, we're now back to the apartment. Investigators just discovered Zach's body, which led them to Addy's apartment. Police are standing at the oven, dreading looking inside. So, okay, everyone's gonna be mad
Starting point is 00:25:55 because I stopped us right before the oven. And I'm sure that's what Baines is going towards next. But this is crazy. He just went for it. And that's what I'm saying. Completely, A wall like it. It was crazy enough that they got in a fight and he strangled her. But the aftermath was, was intense.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Okay. All right. So let's see what was in the oven. Police open the oven door and they discover an oversized, disposable turkey pan that had what appeared to be two human legs cooked. Meaning the skin is now peeled, the skin and muscle is now peeled away from the bone. Oh my gosh. They check the two giant pots on the stove and they find Adi's head in one, but they can't tell it's Adi. And Hansen feet in the other. Once again, these have been cooked so long that the skin in the meat is completely charred and peeled away from the bone.
Starting point is 00:26:49 So it was so that it wouldn't stink. Grecks. Okay. That's, that, I have no words. Yeah, detectors aren't shocked. These images being burned into their heads forever. Obviously, they check the fridge and they find the torso of Adi wrapped inside a plastic bag. Zach had returned home from his two-week drunken spiral and
Starting point is 00:27:09 Hacksawd Adi's body up in the bathtub. Didn't know when to hear this? I mean... No, I mean he did it. I... Yeah, yeah, yeah. He then... I mean I'm not gonna do it for you. Yeah, yeah. He then decides to cook the pieces to take away the smell of decomp. There is no evidence anywhere that he ate any of Adi's body, as he immediately afterwards went to a rooftop bar and jumped to his death with the note in his pocket saying for police only. He wrote, in the diary, I scared myself not only by the action of calmly strangling the woman I've loved, but by my entire lack of remorse for it, I've known forever how,
Starting point is 00:27:48 how horrible of a person I am. Ask anyone. So he's like, he's basically says I didn't even feel bad for doing it. He writes about everything in Adi's diary, eight pages total. I do want to clarify here, some sources say five pages and also some sources say that police denied the claims about Zach molesting at his corpse. Oh, I'm going to just put that out there because I don't want to give misinformation. So I'm going to give both sides. I still wonder why he wrote all this stuff in the journal, but he wrote in the journal
Starting point is 00:28:19 that he did that. So I don't know how police would know that in general, like why did he? Because he was not okay in my head. Now I am not excusing behavior, but we do have to be aware of what heavy drugs and alcohol can do to a seemingly normal person. Yes. I'm not saying all people who dive deep into drugs
Starting point is 00:28:37 or alcohol will chop up their girlfriend, but it sure can change a person. And we've been doing things. I'm sure of everything that was happening in the movie. His time that he was just a recipe for disaster going on here. Those around the couple and detectives think that that is what happened here. The combination of mental illness, drugs and alcohol. Tenants above the voodoo temple.
Starting point is 00:29:01 So this is, there's an apartment complex above the voodoo temple. So this is there's an apartment complex above the voodoo temple. Tenants that lived in the apartments above have consistently reported paranormal behavior throughout the facilities since the tragedy in 2006. According to ghost city tours, fillings of being watched, voices, and walls pressing in. The apartment where the story of Adian Zach, a love tell of tragedy took place, is now available to tour as part of Ghost Tours. Oh, so basically their room created a haunted, a haunted place. I say, I don't like this, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's haunted. So a lot of residents of New Orleans are upset about this. New Orleans is very well known for their ghost tours for the rich history that New Orleans have.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And it's not always a good history. It's a dark history. There's, and they accept that. They embrace that. They're upset because afterwards the people who turn this into a tour went in and added props, added fake blood, like changed the, like the site. Change the story.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Yes. To make it scarier and they're saying this is exploitive of the actual crime. Like, let's, you know, I can see it too. Uh-huh. So, I mean, ultimately, I hope you all know that we are here to tell the victim's story. I'm here to remember who they were. I do my best to research their lives and tell them. I along with hundreds of thousands
Starting point is 00:30:27 and fascinated with why people do the things they do. That's why we're all here. But it doesn't take away from the consequences that those mysterious actions have, which result in tragedy that we also are listening to right now. So these cases aren't just stories. They are real victims, both Adi and Zach were real victims. And let's remember them. Tell those around you that you love
Starting point is 00:30:51 them and hug them a little closer today because, you know, mental illness is real and the things that these people go through are real. Yeah, I agree. And so that is the story of Zach and Adi, one of the most infamous murders in New Orleans. Interesting, because it was a murder, but it was a murder suicide. A murder suicide. Yes, I think that's what it was. I don't think we've done a murder suicide before.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I don't think so either. So it was just different. It was definitely different. It kind of ended on like a, I know all the more sad, but this one was kind of like a, well, because a low note. It's literally just a recipe for disaster. It went crazy after. And like I said, Adi, Adi's a victim.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Adi was 100% a victim. But Zach was a victim of his own choice too. He also died in this situation. There are two victims of a very abusive toxic lifestyle that these people chose to do. Now I'm not saying living free spirited or Bohemian is a bad lifestyle. I'm saying that every single piece that they mixed in, being a toxic couple, abusive, hard drugs, heavy alcohol, it just created a disaster for them.
Starting point is 00:32:00 No, yeah, that was crazy. I think it's because of what you said, I feel like a lot of the stories that we do. I mean, they're not like this. They don't like, it's not like this ramp a period of they started this and they were, this, like, this is all stuff, like, it was just mental illness. Yes, it was just a really bad situation. I agree. So let's remember, Adi, let's remember, Zach and let's love those around us a little bit more. Yeah. But we love you guys so much. Do. And if you want to check out our social media, it is murder with my husband.
Starting point is 00:32:30 We also have Patreon. And like I said, TikTok, it's so fun. It's been fun. We will see you guys next week with another episode. I love it. And I hate it. Goodbye.

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