Murder With My Husband - 49. Jessica Dishon – The Family Matter

Episode Date: February 22, 2021

In this episode of MWMH, Payton tells Garrett the story of Jessica Dishon and how she disappeared from her family’s driveway.  LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhus...band Case Sources: Cold Case Files S1 E8 – a family secret https://crimehistorian.com/2014/10/08/crime-historian-jessica-dishon-part-1-of-2/  https://www.wdrb.com/news/jessica-dishon-s-uncle-indicted-in-her-murder/article_2ecf8e7a-6756-5b88-a220-b5e977c3b92e.html  https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/bullitt/2015/03/27/jessica-dishon-family-wins-year-saga/70533396/ Links: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/murderwithmyhusband) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, welcome back to our podcast. This is Myrta with my husband. I'm Peyton Marlin. And I'm Garrett Marlin. And he murder with my husband. I'm Peyton Moreland and I'm Garrett Moreland and he's the husband and I'm the husband We just want to say thank you to all of our listeners if you are here on YouTube Please like and subscribe and also don't forget to turn Notifications on so you guys can be updated every single time a new video drops and then if you are just here on podcast Please subscribe leave us a review, it helps so much. We just, we appreciate all the love and support from you guys. It's really, really, really awesome.
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Starting point is 00:01:19 And then Garrett, we still have your 10 seconds. Okay. Well, Peyton and I have been trying to eat healthier, and I'm just gonna say it's extremely difficult. In a hurry. Because we, true. Because we love food. Yeah, we decided that we wanted to try to do a healthier lifestyle,
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Starting point is 00:03:15 dot com are you ready I'm ready on September 10th 1999 in Shepherd'sville Kentucky 17 year old Jessica Dition is sleeping in Shepherd'sville, Kentucky, 17 year old Jessica Dishon is sleeping in. Shepherd'sville is a small town as everyone knows everyone type thing. Generations of families have also stayed put in the area at this time in like 1999. Okay. Jessica's family is up and going about their normal morning routine. Her mother Edna was up at 5.30 getting ready to go to work and her father, Mike, then walks Edna out to her car to see her off to work and then comes back into the house and wakes up Jessica's brothers, which are Bubby. His
Starting point is 00:03:55 real name is Mike Jr., but they call him Bubby and Chris. It was time for Mike to go to work as well. So he wakes the boys up. He checks in on Jessica before he leaves for work. She's obviously still asleep, but she's 17. So she gets herself up for school. She gets ready and she takes her car and drives the school normally. So that's why they're like, we'll wake up the little brothers, but we don't wake her. Okay. Yeah, it makes sense. Bubbie and Chris catch the bus for school and they and then usually around 630, Jessica would get in her own car and head off to school. Jessica Don De Chon was born on May 2nd, 1982. In 1999 she was a senior at Bullets Central High School. She served in the female color guard but quit ROTC to get a job because she wanted to buy the car that she was using to drive to school. Oh, okay. So Jessica planned to attend culinary school after enjoying her senior year.
Starting point is 00:04:48 She was a good student with good grades. At her job at Hardee's, she was a hard worker and trustworthy, according to her boss. Hardee's is like a car of junior, right? Yes, I think it's Hardee's. Oh, man. Hardee's is a little bit of a car of... We're always so bad.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I feel like when there's something we don't know it is like a Carl's to you aren't they owned by this yeah, I'm pretty sure they're owned by the same I have no idea But I know it's similar food to Carl's junior well, sorry if we find that it's still a star. It's a star right? Yeah I think so I don't know I literally just yesterday got sent a meme about manards again No way hey, I saw this tick talk about Minards. And I thought about you guys. That's funny. That's funny. So Jessica actually wanted to get out of Shepard's
Starting point is 00:05:31 ville after high school, but she had just bought her new car. She supposedly had just gotten a new boyfriend and she got along well with her friends. So her life was full of possibility and happiness. It was going good, but she was also eager to move on after high school. Okay. Jessica's mother decides to go to the grocery store after work, and then she heads home around 130 p.m. So she must work like a morning shift type thing, heads to the grocery store, and then
Starting point is 00:05:56 gets home around 130 p.m. She notices when she pulls into her driveway that Jessica's red Pontiac is in the driveway as well. That's weird because Jessica should have taken it to school, right? And that goes inside and checks Jessica's room, haulers for her, but finds her bed empty. Jessica's not answering. Confused, she heads back outside because she could have sworn she saw Jessica's car when she pulled in. How could she be gone if her car is still there? And that it was Jessica's car sits empty in the driveway. Her mother walks over and opens the driver's side door. She sees Jessica's backpack and purse in the back seat.
Starting point is 00:06:36 She notices the keys to the car or on the floorboard. Jessica's cell phone and one of her shoes were on the passenger seat. So Edna is like, what? So she immediately calls her husband Mike and asks him if he happened to take Jessica to school that day. Mike says, no, I didn't. Edna worried asks him, well, is her car not working? Did someone else take her to school? He's like, I don't know, but try to turn her car on and see if it's working. So Edna puts the key in, turns it on, it's working fine.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And it's also weird that her backpacks inside. Yeah, because how would she've gone to school, right? So Mike rushes home at this point to check out what's going on himself. And when he gets there, he opens the car door, he picks up Jessica's cell phone off the passenger seat. So keep in mind, this is 1999. So the cell phone looks like those like those like newer home phones that are just a keypad with a little screen. Does that make sense? He picks it up, looks at the cell phone screen.
Starting point is 00:07:34 The numbers, nine and one are dialed on the cell phone screen. No way. Yeah. But the call button was never pressed. Because you have to be that you press 911, well, whatever your, whatever number you're typing call, if you don't press call, the numbers just stay on the screen waiting for you to finish the call.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I mean, someone to an iPhone, right? Yeah. If you were to dial it, it's just the back then the phones were just phones, nothing else. So that's really the only thing that would have been on the screen. Does that make sense? So the number was half typed and waited to be finished and then called Jessica's parents can't breathe.
Starting point is 00:08:05 They know their daughter Jessica's in trouble. Obviously she was obviously trying to type night one. I can't imagine. They call the high school her high school only to be told that Jessica hadn't shown up for school that day. And this is when they're like fears are just confirmed. Mike and Edna rushed to the Sheriff's Department around 5 p.m. to report Jessica missing. A rookie deputy named David Greenwell responds to the report and has a bad feeling right away. He calls his senior detective whose name is Charles Mann to ask for extra help. This case seems important, like I'm a little worried. Charles Mann tells
Starting point is 00:08:42 the rookie that Jessica was just a runaway and would turn up soon enough. Jessica's father, Mike, tells them that his daughter isn't a runaway with one shoe on and one shoe left in her car with the rest of her belonging. And the phone, she was trying to type 9-1-1. Why would she have run away? So immediately there's only one rookie detective that is taking the case seriously, and that's it. Took a TV show, you know, where everyone just like, no one takes it seriously. So the next day, September 11th, 1999, David Greenwald checks out the scene, which he fully believes is a crime scene.
Starting point is 00:09:18 A teenager on a way does not leave everything important to her behind in her car. State police and detectives should have been called in immediately. But rookie green wall can't get any help. He does his best, takes pictures, but he's not wearing any gloves, he's letting people get in the car, he's a rookie in a small town. That just is double whammy, you know. The next day they set up, so keep in mind, this is day three and this is all we've seen happen really. So the next day they set up a civilian search to look for Jessica. Keep in mind, this isn't the cops setting it up. This is her parents setting it up. But Mike and Edna are mad. They are mad that cops aren't helping. They are mad that no one who is even trained to find their daughter is helping. They are getting on
Starting point is 00:10:03 the local news stations and complaining about the job the sheriff's department was doing for their daughter, like their vocal, their mad. What happens, like, do you know how long someone has to be declared a runaway before they start investigating or is it just per case? So kind of back a while ago, like there was like a standard golden rule. And I don't think it was like written But it was like we wait 48 hours before we say oh, they're missing okay, but then it's time went on People were like hey the first 48 hours are the most important part of a missing person case like that is the window You have to find them before probably turns into a murder case Okay, and so from then on now
Starting point is 00:10:43 Hopefully and usually when you call it you're taken seriously, but we still see cases all the time where they're there Got us, but I would say that most departments know that they should take it seriously Especially one like this where 9-1 is dialed on the phone her shoe is in the car her cars at home her All of her belongings her cell phone. That's not really typical for a runaway. During these civilian searches, people in the community really show up for Jessica. Her uncle, Mike's brother, whose name is Stanley, he tells Mike and Edna that he thinks if someone was going to kidnap someone and kill them in this small town,
Starting point is 00:11:21 they would most likely throw the body in the river bottoms. So in this town, the river bottoms are the pit for illegal and bad things in Bollock County. So river bottoms, that's just a nickname for like buy the river? Yes, it's kind of buy some like bodies of water, but it's also just a woody area, like kind of backroady and where scary things in this town happen.
Starting point is 00:11:43 It's not like you go hang out at the river bottoms if you're looking to do anything good. Does that make sense? It kind of said that the teenagers would go down there and party and drink and, you know, so they are searching the river bottoms at this point. And it's hard on the family. I mean, the river bottoms is a scary area
Starting point is 00:11:58 and this is where they're looking alone without any help from law enforcement. To maybe find their daughter who's dead. Yeah, that's what they're looking for. I mean, they're hoping she's alive. But when you search somewhere like the river bottoms, you're not searching for someone who's alive. Stanley, the uncle actually begins vomiting as they're searching for the body because
Starting point is 00:12:15 he's so sick. Everyone's just so sick about this. Like, their daughter is missing. It's only friends and family and other locals out there. And they don't find anything on this first civilian search and they search all day. A couple days later, as the Dition family is trying to understand their new reality. So think about this, like their daughter's missing yet, they still have two other boys, they have to feed the family, they have to go on, you know. Jessica's brother Chris goes outside
Starting point is 00:12:43 one night to feed the dogs because someone has to feed them. He comes running back into the house frantically and tells Mike, Jessica's dad and his dad, that he thinks he just heard Jessica outside yelling help me. What? Yeah. So Mike grabs his gun and runs outside to try and figure out if he can hear her, if he can find her, is she close to the house, Did she escape from whoever was holding her? What's going on? Stanley, the uncle, was pulling into the driveway at this point and together he helps his brother Mike start searching the area. So they're just searching
Starting point is 00:13:14 around his house? Around the house, because that's where her brother Chris said he heard her. Yeah. Keep in mind they have property. Up on the hill, they see a fire. And so as they get closer, they realize that someone is burning clothes in a barrel on top of the hill. No way. That someone was a man named Bucky Brooks, which was the family that was the neighboring property to the Ditions family. So it's like their neighbors, but it's not like they're close.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It's just that the properties have a line between them. This is their side and that's their side. Does that make sense? Yeah. So I'm trying to decide like, is that suspicious? I think it's suspicious that a girl goes missing and then the neighbors burning close in a barrel. I think that's a little suspicious.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah, I was just curious because I don't know. People burn stuff all the time. Yeah. Yeah, especially out in the country. Like maybe in the city, you're like, no, we don't. But out in the country, people have in the city, you're like, no, we don't, but out in the country people have fires and burn items all the time. This was kind of weird because, okay, I heard two differing sources on this. I heard that the relationship between the two families was already sour or that this was the point where it went sour.
Starting point is 00:14:19 But either way from here on out, this relationship is not good between the Brooks family and the Mission family. He goes up, Mike goes up and goes, hey, Bucky, can I search your property because we've been doing civilian searches, I think it's weird you're burning clothes and Bucky's like, no, you can't search my property. And so instantly, Mike is like, why wouldn't he let us? Would you say no?
Starting point is 00:14:39 If someone came up to you, I'm just curious. Honestly, if it was, I don't know, I don't have a lot of money. Because you're very like, make sure you get an attorney, make sure you do this, don't up to you, I'm just curious. Honestly, if it, I don't know, I don't have a lot of money. Because you're very like, make sure you get an attorney, make sure you do this. Yes. Don't talk to anyone. Yes, yes. So I'm curious if you would say yes.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Because I mean, that's the thing is, Bucky has his right to say no to you. Uh huh. And if the police come, he has his right to say no, you need a warrant. That he has a right to do that. And I fully believe in that right. Okay, you guys, we are getting into an ad.
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Starting point is 00:17:17 Nope. Totally. So I don't know. I don't know. Cause I also do firmly believe in that right. So, obviously, this is the only nearby property near the family's house that hasn't been searched yet because they say no, you can't search it. So after all of this, Mike called authorities to tell them what he saw. Hey, I went up, I saw Bucky burning clothes and that, you know, he wouldn't let me search the property. And authorities are like, hey, we'll go out and search the property. First originally, they go out and he says, no, you can't search.
Starting point is 00:17:46 They go back and get a warrant. They come back and says, they do get a warrant. Yes, because Bucket says no to law enforcement as well. Wow, okay. They come back out with sent dogs and they do pick up a scent in the fire barrel. No, like her scent or a scent in general.
Starting point is 00:18:01 No, just the scent, the dog's trigger to the barrel. Okay. Police are immediately suspicious of Bucket, but definitely don't dogs trigger to the barrel. Okay. Police are immediately suspicious of Bucky, but definitely don't have enough to arrest him. Yeah. Obviously, this did not sit well with the Dition family, and so they decide to reach out to the FBI and see if they will come help.
Starting point is 00:18:16 You can do that. Yes, you can do that. You personally can reach out to the FBI. I'm saying here's the case. A lot of times, the FBI won't come in unless the local law enforcement is like, sure, will accept your help. But actually, the FBI won't come in unless the local law enforcement is like sure will accept your help But actually the FBI has to be invited in so it has to be invited and by a family member or by local law enforcement
Starting point is 00:18:30 The FBI agrees to come help they search Jessica's room and car This is actually the first time that local law enforcement takes the case somewhat seriously So since the FBI comes in local law enforcement is all the sudden like okay, we'll investigate it Oh, they like started feeling the pressure. Bad tracking. Yeah. But the FBI impound Jessica's car for further testing. Keep in mind, it had just been sitting in the driveway.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Like, they didn't take the car anywhere, they didn't really search the car. Which is also hard because I'm sure the rookie who searched it didn't have gloves, so things are probably all tainted now as well. So that's what I'm just about to say is that it's counterintuitive because it had already been touched by family, friends, volunteers, even media, like a journalist sat in the car and did a story from her car. Yes, there's way too many people. The car was only one of many mistakes made by the local law enforcement during this investigation,
Starting point is 00:19:19 refusing to search within the first 48 hours was a big one for a missing person case. And then all of the compromised evidence just adds onto the disaster of an investigation that this has been. Although fingerprints and trace evidence is shot from the car, which is really the only piece of evidence they have. Oh, man, that sucks. But like they have the car and everything now they can't search it. Because it's just like, well, everything's compromised.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Even if they do find something, it might lead them to someone, but it's not going to hold up in court. You know what I'm saying? The FBI does find though a piece of plastic that has been broken off of the driver's seat. And so this leads the FBI to conclude that Jessica was most likely trying to call 911 when she was pulled out of her car, losing her shoe, breaking her seat, and dropping her keys on the floorboard. That's how they think the whole crime scene came to be. Or this, I don't know if it's a crime scene, but how this whole situation in the car came to be. I can't believe that someone might have just came up and pulled her out of the car, like the yank out of the car.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And that's the thing is she must have thrown her, like she must have been fighting. Yes. Because for her shoe to end up on the passenger side, she would have had to have been sideways. Kicking it. Yeah. Which is just horrible. Yeah. So the FBI brings in helicopters, and they search by air, as well as they bring in guys to search the nearby ponds.
Starting point is 00:20:36 They also up the award to $11,000 that had previously been $8,000 that was raised solely by Jessica's family from, like like local people. The FBI even searched the Brooks Farm, the neighboring family's farm. While during that search, they find a photo of Jessica in the farm. It's like her school photo. They just find like a printed out photo. What in the world?
Starting point is 00:20:58 Why the heck does he have a picture of the missing 17-year-old neighbor girl? And they're not friends, right? No, I mean, not really, I don't think. That's weird. It was just randomly on the property. So the family, the Brooks family? Yes. What do they consist of?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Like how many kids, you know? So I couldn't find that information, and I'm assuming it's because they were protecting. All they talk about is Bucky. Oh, okay. Yeah, because most of the family was probably select. So September 27th, 1999, 17 days after Jessica went missing from her driveway, a woman named Karen Hobbes is driving
Starting point is 00:21:33 through the river bottoms, taking a shortcut when she notices something sitting up against a tree. Karen gets out of her car to investigate, but it immediately calls the police when she realizes what she found. She doesn't even walk on the way out. Jessica Don DeShawn's body was resting against a tree in the river bottoms just 17 days after she was last seen alive. The FBI forensic team arrives, and this is the first option for evidence that won't be compromised. Does that make sense? Because the body sadly is going to be evidence in the case. So this is the first time that it can be done correctly. So she was just resting just sitting up against a tree. Yeah. Oh, and so Mike was right then. You figured that if anything had happened, it would be at the rubber bottoms.
Starting point is 00:22:18 It was Stanley, the uncle who says that. Yeah, anything happened to her. she's gonna be in the river bottoms in this town. Oh, man. Yeah. Jessica's body, though, was so badly decomposed that she was completely unrecognizable. So you have to imagine, like, how you said, she was just sitting up against the tree. Yes. But it was, it didn't, wouldn't look like us just sitting up against the tree. Was it summer? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:41 She was partially clothed and her jewelry was found near the body. The sheriff, Paul Parsley, drives to the Ditions House and informs them of the discovery. Like, hey, we found the body. Edna replies to the sheriff, now are you going to say to me that she's a runaway? Oh, man. That gives me the chills. Yeah. I can't imagine how frustrating and devastating it would be as parents to fill as if no one was helping you in the biggest traumatic experience.
Starting point is 00:23:09 You know what I'm saying? I know that indistress, it's easy to blame and be angry. So I'm not, I've never surprised when when families of missing people are already angsty, but I really do believe that this case was not properly investigated and it was blatantly obvious. No one believed them, no one trusted them, and the daughter had been sitting out there for what they think 17 days. Oh, that's so horrible. Like I stated earlier, I watched the Cold Case Files as a case source on this episode, and both Edna and Mike were interviewed in it, so you can see them personally talk, and it was just heartbreaking to hear them talk about it.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Although it had been years and years since this case had happened, the wounds like were obviously still fresh to them. Sometimes you see parents who have reserved it. They were very like it. This just happened yesterday for them. The pain was so real and I don't think you ever get over something like this.
Starting point is 00:24:03 So I just pray that they feel peace at times in their life because they were obviously still very affected and devastated in their interviews. They were asked back into the case, they were asked to identify the tattoo on the decomposed body to see if it might confirm that it was Jessica. So they go to the parents and say, can you come confirm that this decomposed body is your daughter? Do they really need to do that? No, they'll be able to test it. It's just a faster confirmation for them.
Starting point is 00:24:29 That would just be, I don't know. I would just be scarring, I guess. And they don't have to. I mean, they can say no. Mike is like, no, I will not look at her that way. I can't even believe you asked me that. And Edna is like, I'll go. I'll go look at the body.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So the medical examiner determines that the cause of death was strangulation. So this was a kidnapping and then a murder. Jessica had a broken jaw. Some of her fingers had been cut off. She had been severely beaten, raped and tortured. She had been alive for three days after the kidnapping. So you know what that means? Oh, I see. Yeah, I can't.
Starting point is 00:25:07 That means that while the parents were begging the police to take them seriously, Jessica was sitting somewhere being tortured. That is, okay. Oh, I'm miserable. I hate, I'm thinking about it just. Yeah. So investigators determined that her body had actually
Starting point is 00:25:24 been moved from where she was originally dumped. She was dragged 15 feet to the tree that they found her on, and that was a place that she could be seen from the road. So whoever did this wanted Jessica's body to be found, because she was originally hidden, and they came back and moved her, so someone could find her. Was she dead at this point? Do you know?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yes. Yes. Yes. The small town was in shock about the murder and a vigil was held followed by her funeral and also they still hold vigils for her apparently is what I've heard, which is awesome. Bucky Brooks was the main suspect at this point. He had told police that he had seen Jessica walking down the road that morning that she was kidnapped, but then said, no, I was actually busy in bed with my wife all morning, so he's already changing his story. But then the wife comes in and it's like, no,
Starting point is 00:26:10 we were not sexually involved that morning. I don't know what he's saying. He's using me as an alibi. I wasn't with him. He's lying. That would be kind of awkward as husband and wife. Yeah. So the FBI polygraphs Bucky and he fails it and then there is a grand jury indictment
Starting point is 00:26:26 Never get a polygraph never get a polygraph actually in this case maybe get a polygraph You're gonna see why okay, so he fails it and there's a grand jury indictment brought against Bucky Bucky was immediately taken to trial so keep in mind what evidence do they have against Bucky nothing really the picture that he was Turning around lying in the picture. Uh-huh. His behavior. That's not even circumstantial evidence. He behaved badly in the interrogation room. I mean, yeah, they have no physical evidence. I mean, he burned the clothes, but there's no evidence. They didn't ever find evidence of whatever. But I mean, he had changed his story. He was acting weird. Bucky was taken to trial and charged with murder
Starting point is 00:27:05 and he was facing the death penalty. Bucky's lies and bad attitude made the prosecution's job easy at trial. They come in there like, look how he was acting, look at this, look at that. It's a no brainer, no innocent person acts like that. But the defense immediately proves how horribly the case was handled, even after the FBI was involved,
Starting point is 00:27:23 apparently they did not freeze Jessica's body parts for further testing which made the evidence expire Which means any further testing they want to do for that piece of evidence? They can't do because they didn't freeze it. Why did they freeze it? I don't know what is going on? I know the defense comes and goes don't charge him look how horribly this case has been handled What the heck with the defense also put up a man named James Coulter, who they were saying did it instead of Bucky. So they come forward with an alternate suspect.
Starting point is 00:27:53 James even says at trial that he was Jessica's drug dealer and that he saw her after she went missing. So he says that at trial. And the state's like, whatever, like Bucky's still the guy. Wait, he saw her after she went missing. So he says that at trial. And the state's like, whatever, like, we're, he's still the guy. Wait, he saw her after she went missing. Yeah, he says they, he says, Oh, I saw her on this day. And that was after she had been kidnapped. I'm confused. How does that make sense? It doesn't. But I can't give you any more clarification. And you'll see why in just a second. Okay. The trial really proved that the local law enforcement
Starting point is 00:28:24 had their eyes solely on Bucky and never really cared to investigate the case actually. People were even surprised that he was charged with no physical evidence or a confession, literally just odd behavior in that picture. So when Charlie Mann, who this is the main detective in Shepherd'sville who originally said no to the rookie, the rookie asked twice, two separate times. Give me a come help me and he said no, two separate times. He said, Jessica's just to run away.
Starting point is 00:28:49 He gets up on stand to testify and he was cocky on stand. He was like, listen, buck, he's the guy. We didn't even need to investigate it because buck, he's the guy. And he's hounded, he's hounded by the defense for his mishandling of the case. Like you didn't even take this seriously. And now you're just blaming Bucky are are are are are dependent so the defense is asking him How could you even charge my client you have no evidence? You didn't care about this case
Starting point is 00:29:13 You didn't investigate why did you charge my client like give us an actual piece of evidence detective Charlie man Breaks the cardinal rule here in court and belts out because he failed the polygraph. Polygraph tests are inadmissible in court. You cannot mention the test, the results, even the happening of it, not even he took a polygraph test. Basically, this is not 100% but basically you cannot say the word polygraph test referring to the taking of one. If you do do it's immediate grounds for a mistriangle. Why did he say that? Because he's cocky.
Starting point is 00:29:52 What? Yeah. What is he doing? Also because he's backed up in a corner, why are you charging my client? He's already said the pieces of evidence and then he builds out. Well, and he filled the polygraph test. I'm surprised he actually even agreed to go on the stand. I don't think he gets a choice if you get subpoenaed. Oh, so like in the footage,
Starting point is 00:30:10 trial footage, I'll upload it on YouTube if you're watching, but he barely gets the sentence out. And he filled the polygraph. So I and the defense stands up and goes object. Because he's like, you, you idiot, you idiot. Like, this is grounds for mistrial. You just got my client off. The court has to declare mistrial against Bucky Brooks for the murder of Jessica Dishon. The jury is dismissed and in the courtroom Mike begins yelling, like just having a fit.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Stands up, looks at the judge, how could you let him go? He murdered my baby, he's freaking out, and not just begins sobbing, storms out of the courtroom, like it's a huge thing. These parents are just torn apart, they have been screwed over time and time again,
Starting point is 00:30:52 and now they're getting screwed over Bucky, getting charged for the murder. I thought that FBI was helping them. Well, they do, but they don't take, the FBI doesn't take it to court. But like, I know. Can someone else help? I don't know, like, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So, and this situation sucks because Bucky will most likely not be tried again without more evidence because now that it's become such a crap show at the first trial, the states like we need more evidence, like we can't just charge them with what we have. And because of that, the case of Jessica Edition goes cold. So it's still open. During this time of it being cold, Edna and Mike get divorced. They can't handle the grief. They can't handle that their daughter at this happened, then the state screwed them over.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It pulls them apart. Mike literally says in his interview, I lost my daughter, but then I lost my wife too. Oh, it's so sad. It was just horrible. And they haven't talked since. Oh. It horrible. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Starting point is 00:33:38 She immediately looks in a Jessica's case. Obviously. It's like the biggest cold case they have and She's like there's not much of an investigation here. She has nothing to go off of. There was like three boxes, which is nothing of evidence. And so she's like, I might be starting from scratch. She's like, there's nothing printed out. It's just sticky notes of notes. Like it's horribly organized. So Lin visits Mike's house. That's Jessica's dad. And Mike shows her Jessica's old room and they actually hadn't touched it since the day that she was kidnapped. They left it there as a place to go visit her.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Does that make sense? Did that behind not investigate the room? I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did, but he shows her while we still have her room set up the way it was. And so she goes in and Mike's like, actually here here's this box and Lynn opens it and in the box is all of the evidence
Starting point is 00:34:29 that had been left in Jessica's car. That's right. It was at her home in her room and not in an evidence locker when they were taking someone to trial for this murder. I feel like this isn't real. This cannot be real. It's her cell phone, her shoe.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Like I'm just so confused. And I get it, it was contaminated. The FBI was probably like, we can't real. This cannot be real. It's her cell phone, her shoe. Like I'm just so confused. And I get it, it was contaminated. The FBI was probably like, we can't do anything with this evidence anyways. So like at least put it in a locker. Wow, okay. For the cold case, for Lynn, she's like, well, okay, this is kind of cool, you know, like I have all
Starting point is 00:34:57 of the evidence that hasn't even really been touched by anyone else at least now. And so she contacts the original defense team for Bucky. And she's like, listen, I know you guys did your own investigation because your client went up for this murder. Can I have your your files from trial? And they say, sure. So she goes to pick it up. And it's like 17 boxes full of stuff. It's bigger than the own law enforcement state side of the evidence. Is that surprising that the defense says yes? Maybe that's surprising because what if Bucky gets tried again?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Because it just seems like his defense really seemed, I don't know, it just seems like he... It's a little odd. I will give you that. You could get tried again. I don't know, I don't know, you think it happened. Which I'm not saying is about, I mean... It's not a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I don't know who's done it. At this point, I don't know who's done it. It doesn't seem. He really is the main suspect. With the picture and how horribly he was acting, everyone still feels as if Bucky did it, but they also just feel like maybe we need a little bit more evidence. When she's going through the defensive stuff,
Starting point is 00:35:59 she finds Bucky's mental exam that he took because you have to take a mental exam if you're charging someone. Okay. And she discovers that he has an IQ of 61. Bucky shouldn't have been given a polygraph. He wouldn't have understood the questions being asked. Bucky could legally have a mental disability for how low of an IQ. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Okay. So he was most likely taking advantage of by law enforcement. He was flustered and then changed his story multiple times because he can't comprehend what's happening. He doesn't understand their questions. So almost like they're just trying to pin it on someone. Yeah. And this is hard because this is really the only evidence they had against him was his
Starting point is 00:36:41 odd behavior. But then come to find out he has a mind of a child really, and so do we expect any different in such a heated interrogation, you know what I'm saying? This is hard. We see this a lot. People who have lower education, who have no legal representation, which is why I'm telling you always ask for a lawyer, you can get taken advantage of, and so when you are when you have a mental disability, you can get taken advantage of. And so when you are, when you have a mental disability, you will get taken advantage of even more if, you know, and they, they don't care. They'll do it, especially if they want to pin the murder on you.
Starting point is 00:37:14 And so this, this is just like a big discovery. As in we took this guy, we, he could have been charged with the death penalty. And he probably wasn't even mentally able to take a polygraph test. But it's also kind of good now because she probably realizes it wasn't him. Well, she's like, I don't think it was him. It's got to be so long. There's no physical evidence. She was, and if it is him, we need to find more evidence.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And this is why I said maybe do take a polygraph test. Because in this case, the polygraph test helped Bucky because what if they had charged him? You know what I'm saying? In this case, the polygraph has helped Bucky because what if they had charged him? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So Lynn also verifies that James Coulter, the suspect that the defense put up at trial, he actually had an alibi, the day of the kidnapping.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And she goes and checks it and everything. And she's like, okay, so he's not the suspect either. We were just throwing people under the bus. So she, at this point, doesn't believe it's Bucky or James. She's like, I don't think we have the right person. Okay. So on September 30, 2013, Lynn Hunt interviews a prisoner who reached out to her. He says he roamed with a man who told him that he killed Jessica. The informant says that the guy said he held Jessica for a couple days at a barn and then took her life. He says he mutilated her body, cutting off her fingers,
Starting point is 00:38:25 to make it look like it had been a drug deal gone bad. Like if you don't pay us, we're going to cut your finger, cut your finger and then they eventually killed her. He said he killed her because they were in a relationship. Keep in mind this guy is old. So when she was 17, he would have been like 40, 50. So he's like, we were in a relationship. And then she decided to go on and get a boyfriend, her own age at school. And that made him mad. And Solin says, okay, give me the name of the inmate. This guy who just said he killed Jessica, said things that really the only the killer would know.
Starting point is 00:38:57 It's kind of interesting. I feel like this happens a lot, like prisoners, other prisoners, just. Turn on each other. They just all, well, that, but they just tell each other. I feel like, yeah, I killed this person. Yeah, I did this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 So the informant says, okay, I'll tell you who it was. It was Jessica's uncle Stanley, who committed the murder. No, Stanley, who threw up while they were searching for her, Stanley, who came over when they said, oh, I think I just heard Jessica say help me who happened to show up and then search and help. No way. Mm-hmm. Stanley who had done interviews. Okay, keep going because there's if it if this is true, it's realized after.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I mean, you got imagined. No way. She shocked. She's like, no, there's no way. Well, then she goes and realizes this guy was actually in prison with Stanley and Stanley was actually in prison for Nothing other than child sexual assault Being a pedophile. This was after after yes, they come to realize that Stanley that she figures out She's like went where were you guys when Stanley threw up while you were searching for her
Starting point is 00:40:04 She's like, where were you guys when Stanley threw up while you were searching for her? And they were like, oh, we were actually only about a half mile away from where Jessica's body was. So he was trying to distract everyone. He didn't want them to find her. So he threw up and said, let's go home. It's been enough. This has been so hard on everybody. Let's go home. Holy crap. He had tortured Jessica in a barn that was close to where her body was dumped. Stanley told the informant, his prison roommate, that he had hid some of Jessica's personal items in a tree around the area where her body was dumped. So Lynn gathers a team that includes Jessica's one of Jessica's brothers and searches for the physical evidence that can cooperate the story of the informant. They find the barn and Lynn goes in and just starts searching for the barn.
Starting point is 00:40:47 If this is where Stanley had really held Jessica, there has to be some evidence that you keep in mind. This is a party barn. This is where the kids go to party. So there's so much stuff in here, like it's just trashed. She's going through it and notices piece of material sticking out under a pile of stuff and Lynn's like that this looks familiar She realizes the material is the same
Starting point is 00:41:11 fabric or Pattern that was on Jessica's bed when she went and searched Jessica's room When she went to Mike's house and he was like oh come in her room. It's the same and she looks at it and goes I think that's the same pattern that was on your sister's bed. That's what she says to Jessica's brother. And he's like, maybe I don't really remember. And she goes, well, I just searched the house, like I remember it.
Starting point is 00:41:32 But why, like what, okay, just why would there be bed pattern, you know? Right. And so they lift the stuff up, they pull it out and they realize it's sheets, it's sheets. And so they're like, what the heck? So they rush back to my's house and they're like, is this match number one and number two,
Starting point is 00:41:48 like why is there sheets? They run into a room, they realize it is. It's the same pattern as the comforter. They lift the comforter up because keep in mind, this room really hasn't been touched since she went missing, her sheets are missing. It's just the mattress on the bed. That's why I asked if that's B.I. It searched the room. on the bed. That's why I asked if the FBI had searched the room.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So, but the bed was made as in Jessica woke up and made the bed that day. So why would they have undressed the bed? They should have yes, but did they? No. No one did their job. What's going on? So on September 10th, 1999, Stanley Dishon
Starting point is 00:42:19 went over to his brother Mike's house after everyone had left. And he knew that. He waited until everyone had left and he knew that he waited until everyone had left. And as Jessica's going out to her car to go to school, he confronts her about her new boyfriend. He had been molesting and raping her for years as started when she was 13. And when he found out that she got a boyfriend, he was furious. Oh my God. He yanked her out of her car while she was trying to dial 911. He knocked her shoe off and Jessica started threatening to tell what he had done to her when she was little. She was like, if you don't leave me alone, I'm going to tell everyone. Well, this just makes him even more mad. And so she goes barreling back into the house into her room and he chases after her.
Starting point is 00:42:58 They get into a fight and this is where he breaks Jessica's job because he knocks her out. And this is where he breaks Jessica's job because he knocks her out. And then he wraps her up in her sheet, remakes her bed, and takes her to the barn, where he held her for three days, raped and tortured her, cut off her fingers, and then strangled her and then dumped her body. Holy crap, I can't believe that it was done. I'm absolutely, that thought didn't even cross my mind. And here's the thing, when someone moves a body to where it can be found, which they knew happened, like right after they found her body, this is usually an indication that it was someone close to the victim because they don't want her to just decay out there. Does that make sense? They
Starting point is 00:43:38 actually want her to be found. And like FBI profiling is like, oh, this is actually indicates that they at least cared about the weird type of sympathy. And so they should have, they should have at least been like, maybe we should look at people close to her, but they were, their sites were set on Bucky. So during the investigation, Lynn discovers that three other family members of the Dition family that like extended
Starting point is 00:44:01 family, who had also been molested and raped by Stanley Dishon along with Jessica. So he had been doing this to four girls in the family, not just Jessica. Stanley Dishon ended up pleading guilty to four counts of rape. How old is he at this time? He's old. I mean, I don't know the exact age, but he's definitely not young. I mean, he's spent some time in prison at this point.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Yeah. And then he also pleads guilty to manslaughter for the death of Jessica Dishon and you might be like, well, what the heck? It's because he pled guilty instead of going to trial. So they cut a deal. Does that make sense? Uh-huh. So he received 20 years in prison.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Only 20. Mm-hmm. And Mike said, you know, he'll be 70 something when he gets out. So he might be alive. Still, but 20s and that many. But it's because he pled guilty instead of I mean, when you take someone a trial, it costs the state money. I'm just confused. He killed someone. I know. Okay. So when Lynn finished the investigation and wrapped up the evidence, she actually finished going
Starting point is 00:45:00 through the boxes, the defense's boxes, you know, because she hadn't gotten all the way through them. But before she, like, when he was going to trial or pleading guilty, she was like, I'll just finish going through these boxes. And she finds a letter in the box. And it's back from 2002. So literally she was murdered in 1999. So 2002. And it's from an inmate in a prison who came who claims that word around town is this
Starting point is 00:45:25 Stanley Dition had killed his niece. So this essentially means that back in 2002 right after this case someone had come forward and given a letter to not only the defenses team but to the state and to the court saying hey everyone in prison is saying that it was Stanley, her uncle who killed her. During the trial? During the trial of Bucky. So I'm just so confused. So everyone had this information.
Starting point is 00:45:53 So just no one decided to do their job at panel. Everyone's sites were set on Bucky. The evidence was there from the beginning. This whole reason that Lynn even found out what had happened in this case was because in prison informant Led her like gave her a clue The clue was already there in 2002. Nobody just cared to even look He was already admitting what he had done. I feel so bad for Mike and
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yeah All sides of the team had this letter when they took Bucky to trial and nobody cared. This case could have been closed for Mike and Edna before they got divorced. They really did get just a short end of the sick. Literally. Like the entire time. Not only was their daughter, I mean, brutally murdered. No one helps.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Yes, that's what I mean. It's just horrible. I mean, and that's why I say I just pray that that Mike and Anna at least feel some peace at times. Oh man. And then for Mike to be like, it was my brother. Not only was my brother molesting my daughter because he lived at their house. But he killed.
Starting point is 00:46:55 But he then killed my daughter. Yeah. Like, what? Yeah, this is a horrible one. But it's also one where, I mean, they're all horrible. I'm saying. What if Bucky had been charged and given the death penalty? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And he just wasn't really smart enough to say, I'm innocent in the correct way. Did anyone else suspect the uncle? Because I had no idea. I didn't either. I was just like, what? Wow. Why would you suspect him?
Starting point is 00:47:23 The police hadn't been digging at all to try to even bring up any evidence against him. Yeah. That's the case of Jessica addition this week and it's a crazy one. And also a reminder that we have a Patreon episode coming out this week. So if you really want to check that out, just visit Murder with My Husband Patreon. You can go ahead and sign up there. Links in our bio. We just want to say thank you again
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