Murder With My Husband - 70. Richard Scott Smith - The Lady Killer
Episode Date: July 26, 2021This week on MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the true crime case of Richard Scott Smith. LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband Case Sources: https://thecinemahol...ic.com/richard-scott-smith-wives/ https://www.oxygen.com/true-crime-buzz/where-is-serial-dater-richard-scott-smith-of-love-fraud-now Love Fraud Docuseries on Amazon Prime https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a33821604/love-fraud-richard-scott-smith-true-story/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/08/28/showtime-love-fraud-richard-scott-smith/3442531001/ https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a34013454/showtime-love-fraud/ http://scottthecrooksmith.weebly.com/has-this-man-victimized-you/august-20th-2020#comments Links: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband ADS and Discount Links https://www.hellofresh.com/husband14 https://www.betterhelp.com/husband Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Did you see how many TV show requests I got?
Seriously, I was sending them over to Garrett from the DMs.
There were so many in the comments everywhere.
I never have to leave my house again.
No, you have a whole list. You are set.
So my 10 seconds is that I was just outside for the last 35 minutes,
trying to figure out why our sprinkler valves broke.
So that was fun. was just outside for the last 35 minutes trying to figure out why our sprinkler vows broke.
So that was fun.
Garrett was running around soaking wet and the worst part is we're in a drought.
So we're panicking to try to get this water off as fast as it can.
It's spring everywhere.
There was a good two minutes where I was just staring at it going.
I don't know what to do.
I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
It's fine.
He called my dad.
He figured it out. I figured it out I'm supposed to do. It's fine. He called my dad. He figured it out.
I figured it out.
Everything's OK now.
He had to come in.
He had to change his clothes.
It was fine.
Well, I was soaking wet.
It was funny, though.
I should have took a video.
You should have taken a video.
OK.
Anyways, into our story, our case sources today are the cinemaolic.com, oxygen.com, town and
countrymag.com, USAToday.com, women's health mag, Scott the
Crooksmith.webly.com, and then also our episode today is largely based off of a docuseries
on Amazon Prime called LoveFraud. It was done extremely well, and basically our whole timeline
is going to be based off of that, and so I did just want to give them extra credit for that.
OK, so speaking of TV shows, this week's case
is a combination of some of Garrett and I's favorite
shows that we've watched together.
And so I'm kind of excited to see if you recognize the shows
within the case as I'm telling it.
And I hope, so keep that in mind.
I want to see if you can point out how this case is like some TV shows that we've watched.
Okay.
So we began this week in the suburbs of Kansas City.
Tracy was in her late 40s, had kids of her own, and was single.
And according to her, dating in your 40s sucks.
You basically have to go online, and we all know how sketchy that can be.
Tracy would look at a picture of someone on the app and then show up to the date
and it would be a completely different person in person.
And this happened more than once.
But one day Tracy was swiping through her online dating app when she came across a good-looking man.
His profile picture of him in a suit.
She gathered from his profile that he worked in real estate.
He was the owner of his own company and was also a suit. She gathered from his profile that he worked in real estate, he was the owner of his
own company, and was also a pilot. His profile showed he was religious, and so Tracy was like,
this is it, she swiped right on this 47-year-old man. He swiped back, and pretty soon he was picking Tracy
up on his motorcycle. Together, Tracy and the man went on a motorcycle ride as their first date,
and both of them had a good time.
Tracy was having fun, such a different lifestyle than she was used to, 40 years old, riding
on the back of a bike, this new relationship formed, and she was enjoying it, not to mention
all of her friends and family loved her new boyfriend too.
Ellen is living in Arkansas and is smitten with her new boyfriend.
She too is in her forties and feels lucky
to have found such a real love this late in life.
She really had found the perfect partner
who spoiled her rotten.
They went out to eat every night and it felt like a dream.
And Ellen, I, too, have to say that I think going out
to eat every single night is also a dream.
Sabrina Dunlap is sitting at home in 2015
when she gets a text from her new boyfriend
who she is completely in love with. He tells her he's making her dinner at home and Sabrina knows
that God has finally sent her the man she's been praying for. Her boyfriend said all the right
things and their relationship was moving fast but oh man how could it not. Together they went to a
tattoo parlour and the love of her life tattooed her name Sabrina on his back. So Garrett, what are you gonna do
that for me? You haven't noticed the big one I have on my back already? Oh yeah I
did notice it. So Tracy, Ellen and Sabrina all head over hills and love with their
new boyfriends and although all of them had just met these new guys they knew it
was time. Love like this only comes around once. Why put off
the inevitable? They had found everything they had ever wanted. And so Tracy, Ellen, and
Sabrina all get engaged to be married soon after meeting their future husbands. And lucky
for Tracy, Ellen and Sabrina, all of their fiancee were going to be rich soon because they
were each in a malpractice lawsuit with a doctor and we'll be getting paid out from the lawsuit soon enough.
Mmm, okay. Are you confused? Yes.
So Tracy and Ellen each pick out two carrot diamond rings for their rings because their fiancee are gonna be rich soon.
So with the money about to roll in, Tracy's fiance wants to buy a sports car and he writes a check for one.
And Ellen's fiance wants to buy a condo on the beach in Florida, and so they do. And Sabrina's fiance wants to buy two sports cars. Who knew you could pay
for a Porsche with a check? And at night, all three couples would individually pray that
God will show them what to do with the money they were about to make, and how they can
use all of that cash to do good in the world.
Ellen's fiance wouldn't sleep at night. He would stay up and watch TV.
He would also run the tub and bathe in the dark
without talking.
She was a little thrown off about how differently
he had been acting since their engagement.
I'm so confused right now.
Sabrina's fiance watched lifetime movies at night
while she slept.
She thought this was odd because he never did this
before they were engaged.
Tracy's daughter Kayla becomes worried when her mom's
fiance keeps trying to move up their already quick wedding day. And she started to feel weird
about her mom's boyfriend despite the happiness they showed as a couple. So Kayla, who we appreciate
and love for doing what she's about to do, decides to go through her mother's fiance's truck while
he's gone. Despite the lack of evidence, she followed her
gut and said better to be safe than sorry. If this new man and her mom's life had something
to hide, she was going to find out. And so she does go through his truck and what she finds
changes their lives as they know it. In the truck was some pill bottles with the labels ripped
off and some papers labeled and addressed with different names like Scott, Rick, Richard.
This is odd because Tracy's fiance
is actually named Mickey.
Why did he have papers addressed to these other names?
Kayla looked up the array of names on her phone,
cross-searching them on Google, including Mickey.
And this is when she found a blog
that would envelop her and her mother into a
chaos they never saw coming. The blog had a picture of her mother's fiance Mickey at the top of it.
After reading it, Kayla called her mom and told her to come home. Mickey was not who he said he was.
This blog that we're talking about was created by a woman named Lisa Lenton.
Lisa was wife number six of a man named Richard Scott Smith. Richard used the alias's
Scott, Ricky, and Mickey, and more. Lisa created the blog to warn other women about the thief, fraud,
liar, and con man that she had married. Got it. Okay, now it's making sense. And the blog says, if
you are reading this, I'm sorry that you have been victimized by Richard
Scott Smith, which might, I point out, just puts out major mean girl energy for those
personally victimized by Regina George.
How was he not, how's he not in jail?
Okay, so we're going to get there.
So when Tracy and her daughter Kayla looked further into the blog, they were sick to their
stomachs.
The man that they had let into their lives that Tracy was living with,
that she was engaged to.
She thought was going to have a ton of money, which she obviously liked about.
Yes. So she thought was going to have a ton of money. And so they had gone out and bought
all of this stuff. He had also been married to multiple other women. And it's on this blog.
But the list didn't end with Lisa, Tracy Ellen and Sabrina, who we heard about at the beginning,
who had all been engaged to Mickey or Rick or Scott,
whatever you wanna call him.
There was Jean, Holly, Jennifer, Sandy, Caroline,
Carrie, Vanessa, Michelle, Rachel, Angela, Heather's, and more.
Okay.
All these women had been involved with the same man
at one point or another, and all had been lied to by him.
And now all of them had found this blog and posted about their experiences on it so they
wouldn't fill alone.
Richard, this rich and charming gentleman who went to business school and was a professional
water skier, pilot, cook, wine connoisseur, played in a van, and a karate, and a lot of finance
degree, swept lonely, single, newly divorced women off their
feet and after two weeks said, I love you and it, and proposed.
Okay.
He would move in right away.
He would let his vulnerable side out by admitting he'd never been married before, but
had found the love of his life.
And this only comes around once in a blue moon.
The only problem was Richard Scott Mickey Smith had been married
before to multiple women at the same time as we know.
The blog post proved this when Lena let and asked if any wives were actually still married
to him right now and multiple come forward claiming they are.
So he's married to multiple of these women at the same time.
Oh, so he's never actually divorced them.
Well, some of them he has, but most of them, he'll just do it at the same time. Oh, so he's never actually divorced them. Well, some of them he has, but most of
him, he'll just do it at the same time. How can you do that? Like, like, legally, like, what
isn't this day or what isn't the, is that not recognized? You know what I'm saying? I mean, it is
recognized, but we're talking about a petty crime here. Like, you're basically just playing women,
right? Okay. Uh-huh. So after going through the blog, there's 10 confirmed current marriages,
five different aliases, holy crap. And all of these marriages were in different states,
which is how he's got it. He's a Christian, an atheist, and a Catholic, or whatever you need him to be.
Now, I get it. Really, what's the problem with being a player like a lot, but it's not illegal to be
a scumbag, right? Richard might
have pissed off a lot of women, but could he be arrested for that? No, not really. But
Richard Scott Smith went far beyond becoming a lady killer, no pun intended. On top of
being the picture perfect man, having a lot of wives was not the sole reason for Richard
scummy lifestyle. He had a lot of wives that he scammed. Richard would find
women, marry them fast, and then drain their bank accounts by assets in their name and vanish.
He was in it for the long con. And by the way, marrying someone and selling their money and
disappearing into thin air is somewhat illegal. Many of these women, I just listed, were anywhere
between $100,000 to $750,000 in debt
after Richard made them fall in love
only to leave them stranded.
So would they not realize what was going on?
What was going on?
No.
Not until one day he just left and they'd go
to their bank account and it was empty.
And how long was usually with one of the girls?
Was it a long time?
Was it a short amount of time?
Under a year.
Okay.
So most of these women would file bankruptcy, move in with their
friends and their parents. So on top of their husband, whom they were like
insanely in love with, up and leaving without reason or word, destroying them
emotionally, he also ruined their life financially as well. He ripped their
worlds up and left. All of these women, most of the women went to the police
and filed forgery, theft, and identity theft,
but usually Richard was already gone in the wind
with their money.
Nowhere to be found.
Number disconnected, the job he had worked out wasn't real.
They just, all of a sudden discover
his whole life was a scam and a lie.
The only time he had been caught in the act
and hadn't had the chance to run away before the woman found out what he was doing, the cops arrested
him but somehow gave Richard probation and he served no gel time. He was also supposed
to give Sabrina the victim her money back but you know that never happened because as
soon as it was all over he just disappeared, changed his name.
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state to state, the cops wouldn't waste time looking for him. It was now out of their jurisdiction.
Richard had committed forgery, identity theft, theft, and violated his parole. But I guess all
of these could be seen as petty crimes. So together via the blog, the group of women victimized by Richard
were brainstorming ways to catch Richard
and to put it bluntly, they wanted revenge.
Okay, got it.
So before we keep going,
I just thought of the show Impostors.
Yes, that's the one I wrote down.
Literally, my next note says Impostors.
Got it, okay.
Which, if you don't know Impostors
is basically the same exact story,
this woman, yeah, a woman cons these men and
Then three of them not
Like a billion. Yeah want come together are like oh my gosh
We all married the same woman she dreamed your bank account to and then they go on a search to find her
Because same situation the police are kind of like hey, what are we gonna do like and so all these women are like if the police aren't gonna
Help us we have to help ourselves.
And they're doing that through this blog online.
Okay.
So this is when, at this point in our story,
a production company reaches out to the women
from the blog and asks the women
if they can tell their story via a docu-series.
They will document everything and thus,
the docu-sercuseries love fraud was born
that I was talking about.
The producers for love fraud had been looking for a case
to cover of a man or a woman who was leading two lives.
Possibly someone who was marrying to two individuals
and neither of the separate families knew it.
And they wanted something that was happening now,
not something that had already happened,
but they came across Lisa's small blog of scorned women
who were actively searching for their shared husband
together, and this is when they were like,
we have to cover this story.
So love fraud documents, the rest of this story,
in real time, as the women start the chase
to bring rich or scott down.
Wow, okay.
This is crazy.
So it turns into a full-on TV show.
Exactly.
And the doc you see, like I said,
it's on Amazon Prime, you can watch it,
but I'm just gonna kind of explain
the rest of the story here.
Keep in mind, Richard is a fugitive in most of these states,
but for really small charges,
but he does have warrants out for his arrest.
But none of these girls know where he is right now,
or how to catch him if they do find him.
They're not cops.
They can't just walk up and arrest him.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So this is one the production company who really funded a lot of the rest of this story
suggests, hey, we know a female bounty hunter.
Let's hire her to find Richard.
No way.
So Richard is a fugitive and a bounty hunter could legally find him and turn him in. And so the
chase for Richard is on. And this is where my second TV show comes in. Do you know what I'm thinking
of? Teenage bounty hunters. Okay. Got it. Yep. So together, the bounty hunter and some of the wives
head to the apartment complex in Kansas that Richard supposedly rents out his last known
girlfriend from the blog gave them this lead.
Okay, the last time I saw him,
this is where he said he was working.
So Tracy and him had broke up at this point,
but she heads down with producers and sees
that his motorcycle is in the parking lot,
and then also she sees that there's a Ford Raptor truck
in the parking lot.
And she's like, oh, he's been talking about
by one of those.
And she's like, that has to be his. Because buy one of those. And she said that has to be his.
Because keep in mind, he bought cars in Tracy's name.
He bought cars in Sabrina's name.
That's how he was having all of this.
That's how I'm wondering how many cars does he have?
Exactly.
And he then be cool.
But this is also why it's so easy for him to live a new life.
Yeah.
He drives a new car.
It has a different license plate.
He moves on.
Yep.
This leads them to think, hey, he might still be in town if his cars are parked outside of
this apartment complex we think he's working at.
But it was around this time as producers start digging.
They discover that Richard had actually stopped paying his bills at the apartment complex.
He had ended up actually selling roughly $60,000 from the apartment complex manager and
then just beat it.
Just left town. He's. So this lead was a dead end. $60,000 from the apartment complex manager and then just beat it just left.
So this lead was a dead end.
He had screwed someone else over once again, but it was a dead end.
Beyond taking Richard down, the woman also take the responsibility of trying
to find and warn any other woman that he is seen with.
They get a hold of women and tell them, you know, what's going on?
Who they're dating, check out this blog.
It has proof of everything we're talking about.
They're trying to make it so that there's not
as many victims as there has been in the past.
Richard Scott Smith actually dropped out of high school
his junior year and friends say around that time
he would date as many girls as he could
without any of them finding out.
It was like a game for him.
So he's been doing this for a while.
They say he told a lot of lies in high school
and it got to the point where they felt like he didn't know the difference between a lie
and the truth. He had been showing this kind of behavior for a long time.
So he's always been kind of like a crook, like a scam artist.
Yes, a con man. As the investigation goes on and by investigation, I mean investigation
between the scorned women, the producers of love for all and this bounty hunter, the women
have no leads, no help from the police
and no idea where Richard ran off to this time.
Until someone spots him at a karaoke bar in Kansas
in a different area called Shots
with another woman named Carla.
Carla had actually left her husband and kids
to pursue her life with Rick,
which is Richard unaware of who she was
dating. So she had literally left her husband to date this con man. Carla met Richard at
karaoke and began sneaking around behind her husband's back with Richard, as things got
more serious. Her husband's still didn't have a clue until one night he got a call from
Carla who out of the blue said, Hey, I want a divorce. Jim, her husband was confused,
but immediately felt like something was wrong. So he rushed down to his bank and discovered that
there was only $80 left in his account. Oh, no way. Carla and Richard had drained his account
and left town. Oh, they both did it. Well, I think Richard convinced her to take all the money and leave. A couple
days later, Jim got a message on Facebook that said, you know, hey, this guy that your wife
is messing around with, he's a con man, he's con multiple people, he's going to take your
money. And Jim's like, yeah, duh, he already did. I have nothing. So the bounty hunter heads
down to karaoke night in hopes of fine. Okay, maybe Carla and Richard stuck around for some reason.
They didn't. They stole the money they left town.
As the girls are waiting for new information because Richard has left the area with Carla.
They discover an interesting lead that is posted on the blog.
Richard has been spotted at a restaurant called Crab Kings in Wichita, Kansas,
and is claiming to be Mickey Smith at this restaurant,
and he is part owner of this restaurant with Carla.
They took her husband's 401k,
left town, and invested it into a seafood restaurant.
He literally went from apartment owner to restaurant owner,
and Jim, Carla's husband, is now heading to Wichita
to find his wife after talking with all of the women
from the blog, And the Bounty Hunter.
So we've now got Jim on board,
trying to search for Richard.
You've got a whole crew.
Yes, the producers of Love Fraud also hire a private investigator
at this time who works in the county of the seafood place.
It doesn't seem real.
It's insane.
Like this does not seem real.
This is crazy.
So they hire the PI to stake out the seafood restaurant
and let them know if he ever sees Richard.
And he eventually does after a couple of days,
he spots Richard outside the restaurant.
So the production company calls Crab Kings the restaurant
and they're like, hey, can we please speak to Mickey?
Because that's what he's going by.
And they're like, oh, Mickey actually just quit
and left town yesterday.
Of course he did.
Mm-hmm.
And this is when the production company
then reaches out to Carla and is like,
hey, it seems like you've been ditched by Richard.
Do you wanna do an interview on this documentary
we're doing and she's like, sure.
So Carla in her interview says she loved Rick as she knew him.
And although fast paced when he suggested
they run away and open up a seed food restaurant. She couldn't not. She was like, this is a dream.
I feel like I'm 18 again and I have to do this. Okay. But soon after opening the restaurant,
Carla felt like Rick was pulling away from her. And that's because he was. Richard immediately
began dating an employee at the new restaurant that they co-owned together
with her husband's 401k,
and he had only met her as he was her boss,
and after three days of meeting her,
he told her he loved her.
So now he's dating Carla and an employee
at the new restaurant that he's working at.
Is he doing this because it's a game to him,
because it's sexual to him, like why?
No, most of the relationships were not sexual oh okay because he would say he
wanted to wait till marriage so he was just a con man a con man and I assume he just got a
through a lot of out of doing this yeah winning right so he's dating the employee and he's like
just convinced Carla to leave her husband still his money and then boom he disappears leaves the
restaurant leaves Carla to run the restaurant disappears, leaves the restaurant, leaves Carlisle to run the restaurant
and also leaves his restaurant girlfriend.
Richard Scott Smith had emptied the restaurant bank account and loan and disappeared.
He took the loan and ran off leaving this restaurant literally.
Bankrupts.
Bankrupts.
Yeah, with nothing.
Yes, Carla had been scammed.
All the employees paychecks bounced and all of this happened while the production team
was in Wichita scoping and trying to figure things out. So the next clue in the manhunt
comes when a woman comments on the blog telling the woman, hey back off of
Richard Scott Smith and all the women are like, hey this is a blog of scorned
women like how do you get here? And if you are dating him and read about all this,
why are you still dating him and why are you not joining us?
So this leads them to Knoxville, Tennessee, where some more private investigators are
Enlisted to help in the search for Richard. They follow her around Knoxville where she lives for 48 hours
But they don't see Richard with her anywhere, but they're like, why would she be commenting this if Richard wasn't with her?
And Richard had obviously found out about the blog at this point because so many girlfriends
had reached back out to him and said,
I know there's this blog and I know about everything you've done.
So these new PIs run background checks on Richard
and they find 10 different social security numbers
like attached to his name.
Oh, right.
43 different documented phone numbers.
And that's just documented.
58 different documented addresses for Richard
Scott Smith. The producers call the woman whose name is Lee that commented to the woman to
stop the witch hunt. And they ask her for cooperation in the investigation into Richard.
They're like, hey, we know you've commented this, but we're actually doing a docu-series
and can you please help us? Like, can we interview you? Lee says that, you know what?
Richard just wants to be left alone.
He's a good guy.
There's two sides to every story.
And then when they officially interview her,
she says, yes, we dated a long time ago.
We're not dating now, but our breakup was amicable.
I don't believe the girls on the blog.
I think they're just pissed off that they can't have
Richard anymore.
Oh my God.
Richard had never done anything to her
like the girls were saying,
after the interview,
the PI's stay surveilin' sing Lee's home anyways.
They're like, okay, well.
So she's in complete denial.
She's like, I don't know where Richard is.
I haven't seen him.
I just think this blog is completely crazy.
And they're like, yeah, yeah, okay,
we're gonna keep watching it
without you knowing outside your home.
And not too long later,
a man shows up to the home. And that man is Richard Scott Smith, whom Lee had just claimed
multiple times to have no idea where he was. Lee is literally harboring a fugitive. And
honestly, probably dating Richard once again, which is why she's begging the blog to stand
down, like stop this investigation, everything.
But the weird part about this is Lee actually does have
another like real boyfriend.
And so producers aren't sure if she's hiding Richard from him
or how this whole thing is actually working,
how Richard's back in her life, but she still is acting
like she has another boyfriend,
is she really just being friends with Richard, they don't know.
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The PIs begin following Richard now that they found him again.
Okay, so this is like a big thing in this case, right?
Like these PIs have found Richard.
So they need to secure his patterns before involving
authorities though to make sure he gets arrested.
So instead of just like calling cops immediately and being like,
oh, there's a fugitive, can you come arrest him?
They're gonna like secure his patterns,
so they make sure it's like a solid place,
and they have all the evidence they need
before turning him over to investigators.
Okay.
They follow Richard around,
and they end up following him to a boat,
and RV sells and repair center where it appears he's working now.
Like, he's moved to this new town,
and this is the job he's got.
After work, they follow him to a boat dock
on a lake where it appears he's spending some time
on this like random houseboat.
But as they're watching him and old man drives up
and ends up being Oscar Lee's dad.
So this woman who like is like all these other women
need to stand down.
Her dad meets Richard out at the lake at this houseboat.
And after they like put together this weird connection,
the PI's discover that the car Richard is currently driving
belongs to Oscar Lee's dad.
So almost like, like is he in on it?
Like some's going on.
Something weird is going on.
And also the houseboat he's been visiting
is Lee's dad's as well. Okay. So they're like what the heck is going on. And also the houseboat he's been visiting is Lee's dad's as well.
So they're like, what the heck is going on here?
It's a family affair with Lee and her dad now in Richard.
And Lee has another boyfriend or something.
It's obvious that Richard is either trying to work
something on Lee and her dad or both
or they're involved.
The producers and PIs want to figure out what.
So the producers reach out to Lee's real boyfriend to inform him, hey, we're doing a documentary
on someone named Richard Scott Smith and we know that Lee, your girlfriend, knows him
and do you know of him?
Have you met him?
Like, what's your affiliation with him?
The boyfriend, his name is Darryl, says, yes, I do know him and I can't believe you've called. Lee had just randomly broke up with him that day and he's convinced Richard has something
to do with it.
So she did just break up with her boyfriend when producers call.
Apparently Lee and her dad picked Richard up from the bus stop a while back and gave him
a place to stay after he ditched Carla and the seafood restaurant in Wichita.
Oh my God.
So they were harboring a fugitive this whole time.
Yeah.
They continue to follow him around and the next day Richard buys a burner phone and goes
car shopping and then goes to an open house and then ends his night at a bar.
And these PIs are like, what is this guy's life?
And at this bar, he meets up with another girl. So he has
another girlfriend. And as PIs have been following him for the last couple weeks, they have
a total of three different girlfriends that Richard is out with, buying cars with, shopping
for homes with. He's getting their money, getting their account, holding the same con.
And I'm pretty sure at the same time dating Lee.
Because why did she break up with her boyfriend?
I can't believe he just can keep buying new cars and all the stuff just over and over again.
It's insane.
So the girls, the producers and the bounty hunter all meet again at this point.
Keep in mind, this has almost been a year long hunt.
Like we're telling this story fast, but there were months where they just sat with no leads just checking the blog every day. They discuss the new details
and decide, you know what, it's time. It's time to take down Richard Scott Smith. There is a warrant
out in this exact county. They have plenty of evidence and they know where he frequents now.
And he has no idea. So they had found him and it's time to do
what they started all of this roughly a year earlier.
The next day, producers, MPI's follow Richard
to a super eight motel, where he is with yet another girl,
making her fall in love with him so that he can still
run it.
Is he a good-looking guy?
No.
I was gonna ask this at the beginning,
but I mean, I've obviously everyone has their, what obviously everyone has their what's good looking and what's not like I mean looks are relative, right?
But the thing about it is is he is smart. He's praying on women who are here more for personality
and the type of person you are. And as long as he's seeing what they want. Well, I'm a pilot. Oh, awesome. A doctor, awesome. A lawyer.
I just, I love you. You're everything to me. She was so, he was so just like telling
them anything they wanted to hear. And like I said, most of them were in their 40s, newly
divorced, single, had kids. So they were in like a vulnerable situation to begin with.
Got it. So they follow him to the super situation to begin with. Got it.
So they follow him to the super eight motel and as they're sitting there the next morning
they decide, okay, let's call the police now and get them here to arrest him at this
like super eight motel.
There's nowhere really for him to go.
So they call the cops and as they're waiting for the cops to get there like they're on the
phone with the cops saying, okay, yes, he's here.
He's in this room.
We've been watching him.
He's here.
Richard randomly walks out of his hotel room and gets in his car. So they're
on the phone, like holy crap, holy crap, he's leaving. He's leaving. Like randomly, he's
leaving and the cops are like, well, we're still not there yet. And they're like, but you
have to get here. Like, he's going to get away. Yeah. And he'll run. Like, this is what
he does. And they're like, well, we're coming, we're trying.
So before the police can get there, he leaves, he pulls out.
And so you have to keep in mind,
there's three different cars right now falling him.
Some of his ex-wives have come to Wichita to do this.
And they're in a car.
Producers of Love, Fraud are in a car.
The bounty hunter is in a car,
and the PIs are in a car.
So there's like three separate cars
of people with walkie talkies trying to take down
Richard Scott Smith and it's all just regular people
besides the PIs, it's all just regular people
who want to get this man caught.
And also they've now involved with the police.
So the police get on route while the team of three cars,
the team of all those people we just talked about
begins following Richard through town.
So he has three cars following him through town right now.
And they're all on walkie talkies.
Oh, he's getting in the fourth lane on highway OB prepared.
He might be exiting.
Okay, everybody, Richard, exited.
We're now following him.
Yeah.
And they're announcing as everything's going on.
And the cops, they're also on the phone with the cops saying, oh, this is where he is.
We're now following him this way.
So the police get on route as the producers MPIs
are following him.
They figure out that he's most likely headed to the mall.
And while pulling into the mall parking lot,
three unmarked police cars pull up with them.
So now it's not just the three.
It's also three more cars.
So picture this, Richard is in the lead in Lee's dad's car
after staying the night with another girl at a super eight
Three unmarked police cars pulling behind him and
producers
PIs and X wives are all in different cars behind that so we now have this like train
Yeah, just trying to follow him the team pulls off and they watch from a couple parking rows away as the three police cars
pulls off and they watch from a couple parking rows away as the three police cars box-richared Scott Smith into the parking lot in the mall and this footage is epic like all the
wives. Oh yeah, because the producers are there love rod is filming it. So all the wives
are freaking out. The bounty hunter is like, oh, this is going down right now. The cops
get out. They draw their guns, they're like lights are going
and Richard just steps out and they arrest him
for his outstanding warrant.
Okay.
So this whole scene to me just feels like someone
who didn't think he could get caught,
it just feels like justice in one moment
for so many women.
Women who had been hurt from the minimal to the extreme
from cheating, to beating, to stealing,
and then to leaving, literally this online blog
of strong women led to the arrest of a man,
the police didn't seem to be able to get by themselves.
This is nuts, this is insane.
It's insane. So 24 hours after the arrest,
Oscars boat, the house boat that Richard
had been going to see, it sinks.
Like it just randomly sinks.
What?
And so as they're investigating it, they discovered that it had just been a slow leak.
Someone had just put a slow leak into the boat and purposely sunk it.
Which was him.
Yes.
So producers are like, Hey, he was trying to sink your boat.
So Lee tells producers that she believes that Richard tried to sink her dad's boat so that
he could then buy it from him cheaper, this poor old man,
buy it from him cheaper, take it to his place of work that fixes boats and then turn around
and sell it for more.
So it was all just a long con in the lake.
All a con, yep.
So many of the women came to Richard's court hearing and testified.
They testified about the physical and mental abuse because I did forget to say he would,
he had been arrested for physical violence before for domestic violence.
They testified about the lying, they testified about the fraud,
and the fact that he was married to three, four, five women at the same time,
only to take what they had and leave.
They were like, this guy is not a good guy.
He was sentenced to prison for 180 days and required to pay back anyone
who chose to sue him like to go through with these charges.
But he wouldn't have the money, right?
No.
Mm-hmm.
And because most of his money was a lie, right?
Yeah.
Like it was just a steal.
It was fake.
Or stole it from you.
Yes. And also, it was then turned around and spent on cars or on this.
And you have to keep in mind that a lot of these women
aren't gonna go through with the process of a lawsuit
to try to get their money back.
That's a lot for work.
If he's not gonna even have it to pay, you know what I mean?
Con men really do get such small sentences.
Like it's only 180 days.
That's so easy.
Despite the fact that he's con so many people,
this level of con man, we're not talking like people
who screw over big companies.
We're talking about people who just screw over
other individuals.
Rarely, what they are doing is completely illegal
once they are married, which is why the married con
is so popular because our names are now combined.
What's mine is yours.
So I think the assets in run, it's hard to prove.
The charges become so much smaller.
And the sentence is much less
severe, which is why these guys do this type of con. They know how to legally screw people
over or do it with minimal punishment, right? So Richard obviously needs longer than 180
days in prison. But that was the extent that they could get him for. Richard sat down for an interview from prison with the producers
from LoveFraud once all was said and done. So once he's arrested, he gets sent us everything. LoveFraud
comes and goes, hey, so yeah, we were making a docu-series. We're actually the reason you're here now.
Like, the cops probably would have never got you without all of us coming together and doing this.
And can we interview you? He's like, sure. Socrap the whole interview and I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on it because it's just it's annoying
He says any relationship he started he was looking for forever and he was looking for that fairy tale. Oh my gosh
He cries through the whole thing. He plays the victim. I've had such a hard life. These women. They're just bitter
It's just awful. Give me a break.
Okay.
He says the girls he dated were so poor.
So why would a con man want, like,
he's like, they were not even worth a con.
He says he hasn't committed any crimes.
He's been wrongly accused.
And just like this, what the last con we saw,
a gaslighting is such a bad thing with these criminals.
He's like, no, they're like, no, we have you on video
doing this. And he's like, no, I're like, no, we have you on video doing this.
And he's like, no, I'm the victim here.
Tear, tear, tear.
So producers ask him how many times he's been married
and he says, I think only five.
And they're like, okay, well, what about this girl
and what about this girl and what about this girl
and what about this girl.
And he's like, oh, yeah, her too.
Oh, I forgot about her.
Oh, yeah, too.
They confront him with all of his other marriages.
And he goes, yes, I know them.
They say, hey, well, that's 10 women
that we can legally prove you've been married to.
And who knows how many more?
Yeah. And he goes, oh yeah.
So he's just like, he's not even there.
He also says he's been married
to multiple people at the same time.
He's like, oh yeah, yeah, I was married to multiple people.
But I swear was an accident.
I didn't know. I thought my divorces were final. They're like, no, you didn't even file for divorce.
Oh, but I, they're like, you just stole and left and that one. You didn't even like finalize
the divorce. I feel like he's just going to keep doing this when he gets out of prison.
Yes. So six months later in April of 2020, Richard Scott Smith was released from prison.
Yes.
And love fraud producers were like,
well, let's start watching him again.
And they immediately confirmed that he has found
new girlfriends like three to four new girlfriends.
They have footage of him with new girls.
You would think because of social media?
He wouldn't be able to.
He wouldn't be able to.
So he said that he was like, I'm the victim here.
This is gonna ruin my life. I'm never gonna be able to date He wouldn't be able to. So he said that he was like, I'm the victim here. This is going to ruin my life.
I'm never going to be able to date again.
No, he got out.
There's women dating him.
And I don't, maybe they don't know,
but it's so like I got on the blog is still up.
It still exists.
No way.
I'll leave it linked in art.
So you can go check it out.
There's so many comments on it now
with people who've watched the documentary
and are just like consoling the women.
Like some were so sorry this happened to you.
He deserved more time in jail.
He's out doing it again.
It's just crazy that this is what happens
when you do this type of con.
He hit scammed jewelry stores, employers, friends.
He had used his little sister telling girls
it was his daughter after their mom dies,
so they would feel bad for him. He put his uncle in a home after convincing him to make him
power of attorney, leave his house to him, and then sold all of the assets and left. He was physically
abusive to multiple women. He came and went into many people's lives like it was nothing causing
trouble everywhere he went. And so this story is for the victims of Richard Scott Smith.
That's crazy.
And the fact that he's still probably doing it
to this day.
To this day.
Yes, he is.
So the blog can still like, they'll still do updates
of where he's at and trying to help these women.
Like, hey, go watch this documentary.
Yeah, because what can you do about it?
Yeah, it is absolutely insane.
It's crazy, it's like legal, but illegal.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, because it's like if he marries them,
but a lot of it is illegal.
Like him just up and taking the restaurant loan
and the 401k and leaving that restaurant
to be bankrupt, completely illegal.
That's fraud, yeah.
So it's just, it's crazy.
And I don't, like some of it's kind of like,
how is he not getting more time?
But I guess that's what Conman do, right?
Like that's why they're Conman.
So it's crazy.
But yeah, that was the story of the Conman,
Richard Scott Smith.
It was definitely different than what you were expecting.
For the last week.
Oh yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
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