Murder With My Husband - 75. Seath Jackson - The Evil Six

Episode Date: August 30, 2021

On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss the elaborate murder plot that was taken out against Seath Jackson. LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband Case... Sources: Grave Mysteries Season 1 Episode 6 Meth, Seath, Death and the Stupid Summerfield Six 3 Part YouTube Series by John Scoggins https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/06/17/woman-convicted-of-teens-murder-to-be-released-from-prison/ Killer Women with Piers Morgan S2 E5 - Amber Wright  https://www.ocala.com/story/news/courts/2021/06/24/marion-county-man-remain-death-row-after-fsc-upholds-sentence/7779167002/ Links: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband  Ads: Raycon: www.buyraycon.com/husband - 15% off Modern Fertility: www.modernfertility.com/husband - $20 off Charlottes Web: https://www.pntra.com/t/SUNITEtOSU1DSEpNTUlOQ0dORkdOTw Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:48 Garrett's a little cold today, so if you're watching on YouTube, that's why he has a point fifth. It's really comfortable. But, Gary, go ahead and get into your 10 seconds. All right. So, for my 10 seconds this week, I wanted to talk about merch real quick. Those that are patrons will get early access to be able to buy the merch. We're super excited. We're not sure how it's going to go. Yeah, this is our first time, but it is an exclusive drop.
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Starting point is 00:01:48 mysteries season one episode six, a meth Seth death and the stupid summer filled six. It's a three part series on YouTube by John Skogins. Click Orlando.com, killer woman with peers Morgan season two episode five, and then O'Cala.com. This week's case begins in 2011 in a quiet little town called Summerfield. Summerfield is located in central Florida and it's pretty small. They have some pastures, some fields,
Starting point is 00:02:14 a little bit of mon pastures, but you really do have to drive to another city to do much. Summerfield does have its own skate park, though, and a drive-in movie theater, but if you are in high school You kind of have to get creative and I remember one time actually telling Garrett that on summer nights in my hometown A lot of high school kids would just go hang out and parking lots like we'd all just drive to a parking lot and hang out and he was like Why and I'm like cuz there's nowhere else to go like that's just what we didn't I think it's a little bit of a similar situation here
Starting point is 00:02:43 It's around spring time at the time of this case, and 15-year-old Seth Jackson is a sophomore at the local high school. Seth was pretty tall for his age, and he didn't struggle making friends. His best friend was William Samilot, and together they hung out a lot. Seth liked MMA and BMX racing, and kids of school say you could always count on Seth for anything. He was super chill, he was popular with the ladies, and although everything seems to be going well for Seth and his world, we all know that the real world is an ugly place where
Starting point is 00:03:14 evil things happen. On April 18, 2011, a Monday in the small town of Somerfield, all the high school kids are at school, well, maybe not all of them actually. William and Seth have plans to hang out after school, but all of William's texts to Seth are going unanswered. By lunchtime, William tries to call Seth, who doesn't appear to be at school. They had hung out just the night before, but now he's nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Getting worried, William decides to call Seth's mom, Sonia, and ask where Seth is. Sonia is confused by the call. She thought that Seth had spent the night at William's house, the night before, and they went to school together. So she hadn't seen or heard from Seth either, and now she's nervous. So Sonia decides to call the police, and Deputy Paul Bloom was on shift at the Marion County Sheriff's Office when the 911 call came in. Another deputy, Deputy Grand Thumb, was sent to the Jackson's home to take the report in person
Starting point is 00:04:09 and get to know the situation a little bit more. Like where was Seth? When was the last time he was seen? Who's with all of that? Sonia and her husband Scott were at the house when the deputy arrived. They tell him that they hadn't seen Seth since yesterday and apparently he's not at school today and he didn't come home last night. The Marion County police aren't sending amber alerts out right away yet though because Seth is 15. They say nine times out of 10, a reported teenager comes back as a runaway anyways. Sonia tells the deputy that she understands that but she is a little worried because she
Starting point is 00:04:43 had texted Seth around 9pm the night before, and the text had been unusual between them. She had asked him if he needed a ride home from William's house, and he got really angry with her out of the blue. He started swearing, calling her the B word, and that he's not coming home, that he's just going to spend the night at Williams. Sonia knew this was out of character for Seth. He had never talked to her like that before,
Starting point is 00:05:07 but he was like refusing to come home. It's weird. So she chalked it up to normal teenage hormones, maybe something else was going on and she decided she would just let him sleep at Williams and talk to him when he got home the next day. But as we know, it's now the next day and Seth is missing. The deputy was immediately suspicious of the text, but it almost furthered his narrative
Starting point is 00:05:29 that Seth is a runaway. I mean, he'd just gotten into a fight with his mom. Why would he want to come home? Yeah, I don't want to come home. Well, go to my friend's house. Yeah. So despite this, the Sheriff's Department knows that they need to solidify Seth's whereabouts the night before.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And see what was going on in his personal life to maybe find where he's hiding out now. They asked Sonia for access to Cess phone records and she agrees to it, as well as handing over a list of Cess friends for police to go talk to. Sonia also informs police that Cess and his girlfriend had just broke up a few weeks earlier, and so she put her name down on the list too. Seth's ex-girlfriend was named Amber Wright. Amber and Seth had been dating for a couple months and Seth was also friends with her brother Kyle too.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And so Kyle and Amber might be a good place to start looking for Seth. After the interview, police searched Seth's bedroom and a sure Sonya and her husband that the runaway teens always leave behind a trail and they would find Sess soon enough. It was time to start unfolding what was going on in Sess life before he went missing. One of the first things police discover about Sess is that he had an active appearance online. He was on social media law and this helped them discover more about him. Sess and Amber had begun dating back in December and according to social media law, and this helped them discover more about him. Seth and Amber had begun dating back in December.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And according to social media, they became pretty serious fast. They talked about being together forever. They seemed happy. They had a lot of pictures together. Kind of like your typical in love, high school relationship. Deputy Grantham who talked to Seth's parents immediately heads over to Amber and Kyle's home to talk to them. It can't be a coincidence
Starting point is 00:07:05 that her and Seth had just broke up and now he's gone. Deputy Grand Thumb tells Amber right that Seth Jackson is missing and Amber tells him she actually saw Seth the night before in the neighborhood. They had actually hung outside for a bit. Like as in last night? Yes, as in the night before. Another girl named Charlie E. Lee was actually at Amber's Yes, as in the night before. Another girl named Charlie E Lee was actually at Amber's house as well while the police were talking to her and she backs up her story. Charlie was already graduated from high school. She was actually married to a man who was in prison at the time. But so she's like 18 and married to a man. But her and Amber were best friends. And she
Starting point is 00:07:42 too had been there the night before when they had hung out with Seth and talked to him outside. Weird, so it sounds like you just didn't want to come home. Exactly. So they claim that Seth was arguing with his mother via text, which lines with his mother's story. And so when he left, they just assumed that Seth was going home to fix whatever was going on with his mom. With two people who, as of now, were the last people to see Seth, Deputy Grantham calls for backup and Lieutenant Todd Spisher responds to the call. They would like to kind of separate the girls
Starting point is 00:08:14 and knell down their stories individually, and so that's what they do. Lieutenant Spisher takes Charlie out to the intersection that her and Amber claim is where they hung out with Seth the night before. He asks her just once again to tell him what she remembers from the night before. Charlie said the same thing. They ran into him, they started talking, he was fighting with his mom via text, but then
Starting point is 00:08:35 Charlie adds something to her story that she hadn't mentioned it back at the house. She says that when Seth was getting ready to leave, they all heard a loud bang. And she doesn't know if it was a firecracker or a gun, but at the sound of the bang, Seth just took off sprinting down the road. And that's the last time they saw him. So, how far away were they from him? They were standing right next to him, they were hanging out,
Starting point is 00:09:00 and then they heard a bang and he just took off. So Seth was with them. Yes. They heard a bang and then Seth took off. So Seth was with them. Yes. They heard a bang and then Seth went running. Yes, this is what Charlie, who is the already graduated girl who's best friends with Amber, Seth's ex-girlfriend is saying. Oh, it's a whole. It's a whole trident.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I've got a whole trident already. So Charlie says, I don't know, Seth just took off fast running. He might have even gotten shot. And maybe he just started running for his life. And the cops like, that's kind of weird. What? Charlie says she's not sure,
Starting point is 00:09:30 she doesn't know where the bang came from, but she does remember seeing a person standing about 35 yards away that might have been the source of the bang. And then she tells Lieutenant, she knows who this person is too. It's a friend named Mike Bargo. And the thing about Mike Bargo, he's Amber's new boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:09:48 He's the reason that Seth and her broke up in the first place. So we're now adding another character into the mix, which is this Mark Bargo guy, who is, who is the reason that Amber and Seth broke up because now it's Amber's new boyfriends. I feel like stories and everything are already getting suspicious. Already. So Charlie explains to Lieutenant Spisher that Mike, like her, is actually graduated too.
Starting point is 00:10:12 He's 18 and because Charlie lives on her own, Mike stays at her house a lot. She rents the house with another boy, a 20-year-old Justin Soto. And Charlie and Mike had actually slept together before, but now he's dating Amber, her best friend, so it's no big deal. And that's how Mike and Amber had met.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It wasn't long before Amber was attracted to Mike, the older, more mature man than her high school boyfriend Seth. She didn't want to date a high school boy anymore. She was ready to move on. And because of this, Mike and Seth hate each other. Like obviously, lieutenant spisher slows Charlie down. He's like, okay, are you a hundred percent sure the other person there was Mike bargo? She says she doesn't know, I don't know really, but it looked like him. And he goes, hey, none of this is making sense. Like you're not making sense. She's just going in circles and... Now there's this whole other part to the story
Starting point is 00:11:06 than what they told him back at the house. Like, it just doesn't make sense. And is it not weird that the ex boyfriend and now the ex girlfriend, like, hung out? You know what I'm saying? Because they were exes and now they're hanging out again. Like, how Seth came? Correct.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, it's weird. Like, if she's moved on with Mike and Seth and Mike supposedly hate each other, why did Seth come back over? But I'm talking that back up to like in high school, like I feel like people who broke up would always like get back together and then break up and then get back together and break up. So that's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But back at Amber's house, Deputy Grand Thumb, who was interviewing Amber, is hearing a pretty different version of what happened the night before than what Charlie is telling Lieutenant. Okay. Amber doesn't mention any other person hanging outside with them or on the street that night. She says it was just her Charlie and Seth. And that after Seth went home, not from running off because of a bang, might I add, her and Charlie just came back to the house and hung out alone. W.D. Grantham asks Amber about the breakup and she tells him it was mutual,
Starting point is 00:12:13 it was mutual between me and Seth, it was no big deal, it wasn't dramatic or anything. Lieutenant Spisher returns to the house with Charlie, and once him and W.D. Grantham talk, they know something's not adding up both of the girl's stories are different. They decide to pull Amber aside and confront her about Charlie's story and how it's pretty different from hers. They start by asking her if she saw Mike Bargo the night before. And she's like, no, I didn't. So they tell her that Charlie says Mike was actually outside with them and that he might have shot Seth. Amber denies it. She says that didn't happen. Seth just went home.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Um, I don't know why Charlie saying that. Spissuring Grantham asked her why she didn't tell them about her new boyfriend Mike and she tells him, listen, I didn't think it was important. It's not that big a deal. The police are confused because Amber is calm and relaxed. She doesn't seem nervous and she's showing no signs of dishonesty. So despite the contradicting stories, both the girls agree that they saw Seth the night before
Starting point is 00:13:14 and they don't know where he or Mike Bargo are now. None of this makes sense. But back at home, William, his best friend, is so worried and so he decides to try and find Seth on his own. He hops on his bike and rides over to Amber's house to ask her if she knows where he is, but once there, he obviously runs into Lieutenant Spisher, William asks them if they are there asking about Seth, his missing best friend. They tell him, yes, we are, we just talk to Amber and Charlie about it.
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Starting point is 00:16:22 So I'm not sure. It's kind of funny how everyone's story is different, like something is going on. Something's wrong. Yeah, so despite Williams, please, you know, don't answer the phone, Seth. It's your ex-girlfriend. She's nothing but trouble.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Please don't talk to her, Seth takes the call. Williams said that Amber told Seth that she loved him and she wanted to get back together on that phone call that night. Both William and Brittany tried to tell Seth to stop, listen, she's lying, she has a new boyfriend, this is not good. But you know how your best friend would always have your back
Starting point is 00:16:56 in best interests and when it came to the X, like most of us they'd be like, don't get back together with them, they're their trouble and you would just be like, hey, you always do it and you'd always do it. So that's kind of what's happening here. Seth loves Amber. He cares about her.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And despite their breakup and this new Mike Bargo older kid, he still wanted to be with her. So after supposedly Amber called him that night, Seth told William he was going to go home. He was like, I'm just not even gonna engage. I'm just gonna go home. William knows better and he goes, no, I'm just not even going to engage. I'm just going to go home. William knows better. And he goes, no, dude, really don't go see her.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Like, just go home. And he's like, I'm not going to. Seth says I'm not going to. And he leaves. That was the last William had seen his best friend Seth. And then remember Seth doesn't actually ever go home. Lieutenant Spisher and Deputy Grand Thumb then ask William about Mike Bargo, Amber's supposed new boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:17:46 William tells them that Mike had a really bad reputation. He would hang out with high school kids because he wanted a crew of people around him, but no one his own age would hang out with him. William says that Mike tried to act hard, but really he had to pray on kids younger than him for people to think he was cool, but that it worked. And Mike Bargo was the ringleader of a bunch of high school kids who hung out at Charlize House.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Okay. So this is already a red flag. Yeah. You have a graduated older kid who's still there hanging out with all these high school kids. And these kids were all like their own little rebellious posse. It was all the high school kids who were doing things that high school kids probably shouldn't be because Mike Bargo, the older guy, could get this stuff for them, right? So William tells police that Amber and her brother Kyle had been spending most
Starting point is 00:18:35 of their time at Charlie's house with Mike Bargo doing whatever it is they wanted to do. They did drugs, they broke laws, you know. And despite now three different stories that don't line up about Seth the night before, police tell William that most likely Seth just ran away. He would be back soon. When William hears this, he freaks out. He tells the police that Seth didn't run away. This isn't him. Something bad has happened. Spisher and Grand Thames say goodbye to William and they head back to the police station. But the way that William had reacted with such worry and urgency,
Starting point is 00:19:09 made them question if Seth really had just run away. Like something seems a little off. What was kind of weird is I'm still thinking back to when Charlie said, oh, he could have been shot, but I don't know. I don't know. And then Amber's like, no, no, that didn't happen at all. Like what, what do you know if someone got shot? It just seemed that was just kind of weird to me So once back at the station they begin digging in harder to the disappearance
Starting point is 00:19:34 They decide to set up a search perimeter and they look into gaining access to the phone records But while waiting for that they put out a below for Seth that would go out to the surrounding departments After that step police decide to try and find Mike Bargo and Amber's brother Kyle Hooper. It seems that these are the two people who are involved in everyone's story But they haven't been able to talk to them yet. I feel like I'm like listening to a high school thriller TV show Yeah, definitely like we're in Riverdale right? Yeah. Yes, exactly So they pull up Mike Bargo's record because he he's an adult, and they discovered that he had been reported to have access to a weapon in the past, and that actually he had a restraining
Starting point is 00:20:13 order out against him in the past year. So they were like, we need to talk to this guy. Back at Amber's house, William, Seth's best friend, didn't forget why he came there in the first place. So he felt like he needed a search for his friend and he knew he needed talk to Amber. So when police left, Seth went up to talk to her. And William and Amber had actually been friends when Seth started dating her, but once Amber dumped Seth for Mike, their friendship ended.
Starting point is 00:20:38 And that's right, it hadn't been a mutual breakup like Amber told police. It was messy. William knows that Amber had randomly broke up with Seth or Seth had broke up with her because of cheating. It kind of depends on who you talk to. But either way the breakup hurts Seth bad. William confronts Amber at her home and tells her to tell him what's going on. Amber tells William what she told police, that Seth had come by last night to hang out and then he left. William tells her, listen, I know you're lying, something else has happened, he's missing, tell me the truth. I feel like the only person I trust right now is William. I agree. I agree. He just sounds right now like the most trustworthy person. I agree. So Amber tells William to leave that there's
Starting point is 00:21:19 some things he doesn't need to know. William is stunned. Amber basically just confirmed that she knows more about what's happened to Seth than she's leading. It's crazy. So William leaves the house because Amber makes him and he knows that Seth's disappearance is connected to the breakup with Amber and her new boyfriend Mike Bargo, but he doesn't know how. Police are now discovering while digging through Seth's life online, that the breakup had not been amicable. Seth and Amber had actually been fighting about it online in front of everyone.
Starting point is 00:21:53 They were calling each other horrible names, expressing their hate for each other. And finally, when Seth finds out that Amber was actually dating Mike, the hostility grows worse. In late March, when Seth finds out that Mike and Amber are at a party together, he decides to show up and confront both of them. Things that the party get heated between the two and Seth hits Mike.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Oh, dang. Now, it wasn't like a brawl. I mean, like, Seth punched Mike once and then Mike went down. And this doesn't sit well. Like you got knocked out? Yes, this doesn't sit well with this 18 year old graduated needy for attention Mike who praise on high school people. He just got knocked out by his girlfriend's 15 year old ex-boyfriend at his own party in front of all of these kids that go to school. So talk about an ego crush, right?
Starting point is 00:22:45 So after the party, basically a social media war begins between Seth, Amber, and Mike. They are making threats. They are going back and forth. Amber was bashing Seth. Seth was bashing Amber. Like this is not pretty. There's name calling.
Starting point is 00:22:59 It's a big deal. And it's not long before Kyle, Amber's brother, jumps in online to defend his sister posts for Seth to stop calling Amber names on Facebook. It's this huge deal and it doesn't come outside and so eventually Seth leaves But this is how crazy they don't call cops or anything. No, but okay. This is how Bad this breakup and Mike Bargo and everything has gotten so at this point as police are finding all this out Police and William are separately searching for Mike Bargo. He's like the missing link, but William finally finds Kyle Amber's brother instead.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He asks him, hey, where's Seth? Kyle begins stuttering. He's telling William. He hasn't seen him. William asks him where Mike is. Kyle says, oh, I don't know where Mike is either. And William's like, dude, you guys like hang out together every day. And he's like, no, I don't know where he is.. And William's like, dude, you guys like hang out together every day and he's like, no, I don't know where he is. The cops haven't found Kyle yet? No, Kyle and Mike are both missing. Okay. The cops haven't found Kyle yet, but William just ran into Kyle.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah. So William knows something is wrong with Kyle. He was skittish. He was dancing around his questions. And he actually just like got up and left in the middle of their conversation. So William's like, something is going on. It seems like despite effort,
Starting point is 00:24:27 police and William aren't really getting anywhere or any answers until. On Tuesday morning, the Marion County Sheriff's Office get a call from a woman named Tracy Wright. And Tracy Wright is Amber and Kyle's mother. So Tracy tells police that an officer needs to come to her home right away because her son Kyle has information about Seth, the missing boy from town.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Okay. So police are stunned. They send an officer to Tracy right home and they pick up Amber and Kyle. Detectives ask Amber and Kyle to turn over their phones and they separate the two at the police station. In one room is Amber and in another is Kyle and his mom. Kyle tells police that Sunday night, this is the night the Seth went missing. Seth wanted to talk to his sister. And so Amber and Charlie came to Charlie's house with Mike Bargo and then Seth shows up later. So at Charlie's house, it's like she's renting this home, is Mike Bargo,
Starting point is 00:25:26 the new boyfriend, Amber Wright, Seth's ex-girlfriend, Kyle, Amber's brother, and Justin Soto, which is the other boy that rents a room at the home with Charlie. Justin, Mike and Charlie are all over 18. And then Kyle is obviously there too. So Kyle tells police that he doesn't like Seth because Seth had been attacking Amber online. And Kyle seems on edge in this interview. You can tell he's nervous, both him and his mom keep like rubbing their heads and distress.
Starting point is 00:25:59 They're like rubbing their temples. Kyle keeps putting his head in his hands and like leaning on his knees. You can just tell that something's wrong. So Kyle says that when Seth showed up to talk to Amber that night, Mike randomly shot him multiple times. Like Seth showed up, Mike grabbed his gun and shot him. So Charlie was sort of matching that story, But it was inside the house.
Starting point is 00:26:25 It wasn't outside. Yeah. What the heck? He says that he saw Mike kill Seth, but no one else knew that he was going to do it. It was just a random thing. And so they bring Amber in next. And she says that she was just too scared to be honest with the police
Starting point is 00:26:42 before when they came to her house. But that night at Charlie's house, Seth had showed up. Charlie answered the door and Seth told her he wanted to talk to Amber, so Charlie let him in. Amber says that Kyle was in the living room at this point and Mike was in his own room at Charlie's house. Amber says that her and Seth are just talking in the living room when randomly out of the blue. Mike comes out of his room and shoots Seth. Oh my god. So she says, her and Seth are just talking in the living room when randomly out of the blue, Mike comes out of his room and shoots Seth. Oh my God. So she says,
Starting point is 00:27:08 her and Charlie ran into Charlie's room and shut the door, they're freaking out, they're scared. She says that after that, Mike came in and told them, if you say anything, I'm gonna kill both of you too. And so that's why she hadn't said anything. So police are stunned, but they bring Charlie in to confirm the story. They're like, okay, we have Kyle's story,
Starting point is 00:27:26 we have Amber's story, now we need to talk to Charlie. So Charlie comes in and she drops a bomb that Seth didn't just randomly show up to talk that night. He wasn't fact lured there by Amber because Mike said that he wanted to scare him. No way. So remember how William had said that they were all hanging out and then Amber either texted
Starting point is 00:27:48 or called him and was like, Hey, I need to talk to you. I want to get back together, come over. Yep. So that did happen. And it was because Mike had said Amber gets Seth over to the house now. I want to scare him. That's what Charlie's saying. So Charlie says she didn't know that Mike was gonna kill him,
Starting point is 00:28:05 that that's the reason he had had Amber text him over. But Charlie, Amber and Kyle have now said that Mike Bargo killed Seth in a fit of rage, like all three of their stories say that. So after the interviews, all three of the teens are put into a room together at the police station. And like all of us know, these rooms have cameras. They have audio. You can watch like any interrogation room has this. And for some reason, people will always forget that.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And for some reason, these three teenagers do not think that that is a thing. No way. So you can see this. Okay, it's not really released to the public, but any like documentary about this has it. So I was unable to find the whole thing, but I saw bits and pieces in my sources. And this part is eerie, because they are unaware that they are being filmed, and they've all three just admitted that Mike Bargo killed Seth that night,
Starting point is 00:28:57 and that they were all there. So Amber, Kyle, and Charlie spill everything in this room while being watched by police. Okay. Okay, you guys, we are getting into an ad. I know you guys have both heard the story about how Garrett and I were both paying separately for peacock. Then we used rocket money and realized how dumb we are and our so happy rocket money helped
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Starting point is 00:30:31 They revealed that basically all of them were in on this plot to Laura Seth over to the house that night and kill him. It was planned and it was executed. Oh my gosh. Kyle says that Seth was not innocent that they didn't kill an innocent kid because Seth was You know threatening Amber online that he deserved what they did and they also revealed that another person the 20 year old Justin Soto was there as well. So police didn't know about Justin being there until these three kids talk about it So literally these two teenagers and then the three adults murdered a 15 year old boy
Starting point is 00:31:07 in cold blood, they lured him to this house and they murdered him all knowing that they were gonna do it. That is insane. In sane, absolutely insane. So, and during this like footage, Amber is like, you know, people are gonna hate us because we murdered a 15 year old boy.
Starting point is 00:31:25 You know, like, no one's gonna wanna be our friend after this. She's not even like- They killed someone. Yeah, and she's not even- They're going to jail. She can't even fathom it. She says at one point, she's like puts her hands in her head
Starting point is 00:31:36 and she goes, I'm not gonna get out of here till I'm 20. She's like 16. That's four years. First degree murder, you're going to be in for a lot longer than that. They can't even fathom what they've done. They have no idea. They think it's like a joke. Yes. I mean, there's there right now. There's five of them who lured this 15 year old boy to a house. I think they just think, oh, well, we did this thing. Like we're a gang. We did this thing.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And now I'm not going to get out of here for four years. Like it's just so weird. So phone records show that Amber did in fact get in touch with Seth that night and tell him that she wanted to get back together and this was around seven p.m. So that's what I was seeing I was saying earlier. Isn't it kind of weird that Seth just went over?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Well, he loved her. Like he was really upset that she had chosen Mike over him. Yeah. And it had been this big mess. But remember in high school, like, but it was it was a plan. It was all learned. It was a plan. She didn't actually mean that. She literally, Amber literally sent that text knowing that Seth was in love with her and that he would show up. Yeah. And she knew that they he wasn't coming over to get back together. She knew that, but she still did it. And she knew that they he wasn't coming over to get back together. She knew that, but she still did it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 It's it's evil. So she texted him to meet her at the corner at 140th Street and 58th Court Street. This is by Charlie's house. This is the intersection that Charlie had said originally told police that they had hung out at. So Seth walks there and at 8.22 p.m. he texts are that he's there. Seth meets Amber out on the street, but is surprised when Charlie is there too. Amber had said they would be alone. And this part is heart-wrenching. Seth had actually texted Amber and said, Amber,
Starting point is 00:33:16 if you're setting me up to be jumped right now by your new boyfriend, I will never talk to you again. Oh, that's horrible. Because he knew that there was really like bad tension between them. And Amber said, no, it's just me. I just miss you. It's just me. So when Seth shows up in Charlie's there, he's like, what the heck, Amber?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Like you said, it was just going to be us. Amber tells him, hey, just come back to Charlie's place. It's just the three of us. And I just want to talk to you there. So the three of them walk there. And once Seth is there, him and Amber sit alone in the living room. And unbeknownst to Seth, Mike and Kyle
Starting point is 00:33:50 are waiting in the back room. Randomly, Kyle and Justin Soto, who lived like rented a room there, walk out and begin beating Seth over the head. They come up behind him while he's talking to her and they just begin beating him over the head. Oh my gosh. And then Mike walks out with a gun
Starting point is 00:34:07 and he tells the boys to move and he begins shooting Seth. Seth runs out the front door trying to escape but is shot again in the yard and they go out and drag him back inside the house. No way, that's just so evil. So evil. So once inside the house and still alive,
Starting point is 00:34:24 they place Seth into the bathtub. And I'm really not going to go into detail about what happened here and the remainder of the night, but they continue to torture him in very cruel ways. It's a slow death and I'm not going to go into detail, but you can look it up. But once Seth is finally killed, they burn Seth's body in a bonfire outside as they all sit around it and drink and laugh and hang out while his body is literally burning in the fire. This is probably one of the most evil thing. And it's just like five people, like five people have killed. Like, how does that eat? Like, I can't. I can't even fathom this. So when police searched the crime scene of the house, Charlie's house, they find human bones in the fire pits.
Starting point is 00:35:12 They find the rest of the remains nearby in three separate five gallon paint buckets that were dumped into a quarry. So the rest of the body. The quarry was down at the bottom of a cliff. And so they hid literally the next morning just put his body parts into these buckets, walked over and threw these buckets off the cliff into the quarry like he's trash. And they're saying all this in that room?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Basically, but not all of these details are released in that room. These are just all the details. These just come out later, yeah. So Mike Bargo was actually hiding out 80 miles away at a friend's house, and he is found and arrested, and he asks for a lawyer immediately, so he's not ever interrogated alone, so we don't have that.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But according to John Skogin's YouTube video on this case, police discover that a 27-year-old man named James Haven allegedly came over the next morning and helped Mike Bargo dump the body into the quarry. So we now have six people who are in on this. And so James was charged as an accessory after the fact. Amber Wright, Kyle Hooper, Charlie Ealy, and Justin Soto are all tried as adults and convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Starting point is 00:36:31 So she's not getting out at 20? No. So all four of them are sentenced to life in prison without the possibility. Mike Bargo gets the death penalty. And he becomes the youngest person in Florida on death row. And he still on death row. And all of this happens because of those details that I left out because it was especially heinous. So that's why they were
Starting point is 00:36:52 able to go this extreme. As of June 17, 2020, Charlie Ely is getting out of prison after serving only nine years. She appealed and the appeal went through. She said that she claimed her innocence like saying, I never actually knew. I didn't know that it was gonna be to this extent. I didn't take part in the burning. And so she had a good lawyer and so she got her conviction.
Starting point is 00:37:18 But she still planned to kill someone. Exactly, exactly. So she maintained her innocence and appealed and eventually one of those stuck, but the rest of them are still in prison. Exactly. Exactly. So she maintained her innocence in a pill and eventually one of those stuck, but the rest of them are still in prison. Okay. And at one point, Mike Bargo's death penalty sentence like got in put into question, but then the Supreme Court was like, no, we're upholding it. The interview Amber did with Pierce Morgan on his show killer woman from gel. She
Starting point is 00:37:42 said that they were just her and Seth were just two teenagers having sex and doing drugs and she doesn't know why he had to die but she just went along with it. So Amber also says that she didn't kill Seth to be with Mike. She wasn't like, oh it would just been easier if he was gone. She just thought that she was in love with him and but now she knows it wasn't love, but she doesn't really know why she did it. Mike from the beginning claimed he and Amber were just friends, even though they both had each other's initials tattooed on their private areas.
Starting point is 00:38:17 So when Mike went to trial, he was like, no, me and Amber were never boyfriend, girlfriend. And Amber's like, yeah, we were. And he's like, no, we weren't. Amber says she was sleeping with Mike, which he denies. And she says like, yeah, we were and he's like, no, we weren't. Amber says she was sleeping with Mike, which he denies. And she says the only reason she was doing it was to try and hurt Seth, that it was on purpose. And she, she, all she says is we were in high school and I don't know, it was just about who could hurt the other more until she killed him. Yeah. She says that
Starting point is 00:38:41 at the time she was a cold manipulative person who got what she wanted. And I really do think Amber is telling the truth through the whole interview. When Pierce reads her back, the text that she used to lurcheth to his death, she admits it's monstrous and evil. Like, I don't know what else to say. She doesn't show much emotion, but she also doesn't seem like happy or deceitful. She honestly just seems really cold and turned off to the whole thing. She says that when her verdict of life was read, she felt like she deserved it and she can't change it. And she knows that she won't last very long
Starting point is 00:39:12 like she thinks that she'll commit suicide before she dies in prison. And I don't want to really speak anymore for what Amber said during this interview because Seth doesn't get the chance to speak for himself. He doesn't get to speak, so I'm not going to give her that platform either. Seth loved hard and he to speak for himself. He doesn't get to speak, so I'm not gonna give her that platform either. Seth loved hard and he was killed for it.
Starting point is 00:39:28 It's not fair. Group killers are strange because we have to ask if any of them would have done it without the other. Would all of them have killed on their own, but either way it doesn't matter. They killed and they tortured a boy who was innocent that night. This world is cruel, so remember to love those people in your
Starting point is 00:39:46 life today a little bit harder after hearing this story. And we will think of Seth Jackson today. Man, that is horrible. It's a really, really bad case. It's monsters. Every single one of them. Just like I understand everyone that was involved. Just pure monsters. Like I understand there was feuding, but for you to like lure him over by saying I want to get back together and then just attack him Yeah, after he explicitly texted you and said if this is to jump me, I will never talk to you again Yeah, and they all knew it they all planned it and they all tried to hide it. It's just so crazy Crazy yeah, but that is our case this week. Thank you so much for listening a reminder about our merch, our exclusive drop.
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