Murder With My Husband - 89. Disappearances Caught on Camera

Episode Date: December 6, 2021

On this episode of MWMH, Payton and Garrett discuss 3 different disappearances that were caught on camera. LIVE ONLINE SHOW TICKETS HERE! https://www.moment.co/murderwithmyhusband Videos: https://w...ww.youtube.com/watch?v=3TjVBpyTeZM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjsgJRAxIK0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUwhUPGXeUE Case Sources: https://medium.com/wonderpublication/4-strange-disappearances-captured-by-security-cameras-faf6cb98c58d https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Hotel_(Los_Angeles) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elisa_Lam Elisa Lam Video by Dennis Romero https://darktales.blog/2021/05/11/the-disappearance-of-lars-mittank/ Lars Mittank - Last Footage by Krim https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Jennifer_Kesse https://www.foxnews.com/us/jennifer-kesse-disappearance-police-photos-violent-struggle-suggested https://www.facebook.com/FindJenniferKesse/ Links: https://linktr.ee/murderwithmyhusband  Ads: Amazon Music: www.amazon.com/husband HelloFresh: HelloFresh.com/Husband14 and use code husband14  Bombas: https://bombas.com/husband Curateur: www.curateur.com use code HUSBAND Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody welcome back to our podcast. This is murder with my husband. I'm Peyton Moreland. So now I'm Garrett Moreland And he's the husband and I'm husband. Well, it's officially the holidays. I feel like it's been a while since I recorded it It kind of has because we the last week of November we We're celebrating my birthday so we didn't record that week. Oh recorded too. Yeah, so we kind of stacked up there So it has been a minute. Did you notice how Peyton didn't say Thanksgiving, but she said her birthday? Because it was my birthday. What's Thanksgiving? Exactly. Just kidding. That's funny. Gary, is your red solo cup just sitting in our set? No. Okay. Can I see it? I probably add on that.
Starting point is 00:00:36 All right. My 10 seconds. Yep. I'm hopping right into my 10 seconds. Can I do it? Honestly, I don't really have anything super interesting for everybody. I'm sorry, but, oh wait, there's a couple of things. One, Payton's first surprise is not here yet. She asked me every single day. In fact, I guess as she said, you didn't get me anything, did you? It's like what he did to his little sibling when he said,
Starting point is 00:00:58 oh, I got you something and then just wait for her to forget about it. I did that for like three years. Yeah, what? Hey, Miley. Hey. Poor Miley. Poor Miley, but three years. Yeah, what? And then she forgot, hey, Miley. Hahaha. Poor Miley. Poor Miley, but I feel like that's what you're doing to me.
Starting point is 00:01:09 That's so funny. No, but I did get her something. It's not here yet. But it'll be here. I hope soon. And there's actually one person I told. There's like one person that knows. You're not going to tell me who?
Starting point is 00:01:20 She's probably listening to this right now. And she knows who she is. Nope. Not Sydney. Second is there was a second surprise, but I can't tell you. I didn't know this. Yes. She's just finding this out right now. Guys, and I really don't think either are a puppy. I really don't think it because I've been saying it every day and every day. He just looks at me and says, it's not a puppy. You guys will all find out though. Okay. Well, I'm excited. Yeah. So that will be my 10 seconds this week other than that hanging out.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It's getting colder. I'm playing pickleball golf. I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm trying to be more fun and cool, but whatever. You are fun and cool. No, other than that, that's it. So no, we watch selling sunset.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yes. You know, I don't care. Judge me all you want. Selling sunset is a good show. You need we watch Selling Sunset. Yes. You know, I don't care. Judge me all you want. Selling Sunset is a good show. You need to watch it. Good. Gary and I scream at the TV when we watch Selling Sunset. We do.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I was like, we should live stream this because I think people would think it was hilarious and they'd loved. They would have to be thinking exactly what we're thinking. I think it's my guilty pleasure. I love Selling Sunset. Okay. Well, our case sources this week week there is a lot of them,
Starting point is 00:02:25 so I'm going to list them all specifically in our episode notes and then just kind of group them here. So medium.com, a couple of YouTube videos, one by A on video and then the other by CRIM. Some Wikipedia pages, another YouTube video by Dennis Romero, darktells.blog, Fox news.com, and then a couple Facebook pages. Facebook pages. Yeah, I'll see you why. Okay. All right, so as you guys know, we cover a plethora of true crime cases on this podcast, murders, abductions, disappearances, et cetera. And while simultaneously telling both all of you and Garrett these stories, there's always one question that Garrett is obsessed with.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Do you know what that is? Where are the cameras? And I know, Garrett loves it, and we as True Crime fanatics love it when a good security camera comes in and solves these cases. That was not scripted by the way. Anyways, keep going. Everyone knows you love the cameras. So when the video footage answers all of the questions we had,
Starting point is 00:03:29 like in the cases of yinging and calling Ritzer, in fact, according to Matthew PJ Ashby, security camera footage statistically significantly increases the chance of a crime being solved for most crime types. But there are times when camera video footage is found in a case, and instead of helping, it leads to further questions, further mystery. And today, we are going to discuss several mysterious disappearances, people's last known moments that were captured by security cameras,
Starting point is 00:04:05 but the footage led to more questions instead of answers. Hmm. Footage that leaves everyone truly wondering, WTF. All right, so the first case we're going to talk about is a case where camera footage just led to more questions, and this case might be considered a popular one. But Garrett has never heard this story. I'm assuring you guys.
Starting point is 00:04:27 So if you have, you can hear Garrett's innocent reaction as someone who hasn't seen such bizarre and eerie footage when it comes to a true crime case. Okay. This case is that of Alisa Lam. Now, we could do a whole season just on this story. So there will be details that go unsaid because we don't have that kind of time. But please discuss any theories or details on our social media channels with respect to
Starting point is 00:04:52 the victim. All right, so this footage takes place at a hotel. And it's called the Cecil Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. Now the Cecil Hotel became notorious in LA with a haunting and lengthy past. It has a history of suicides and is actually housed more than one serial killer during its time. The Cecil Hotel was opened on Main Street on December 20, 1924. It currently is a 19 floor hotel with 700 rooms, but it is constantly under construction. In the 20s,
Starting point is 00:05:26 the hotel cost 1.5 million dollars to complete. Wow. Which I knew Garrett would love that detail. That's crazy. That's 20s. Yeah. Only five years after it opened, though, the United States entered the Great Depression, and so the hotel began its descent. Skid Row began growing right outside its front doors and in 2011 the Cecil Hotel was rebranded as stay on main because by that point so many deaths and darkness had overcome this budget and long-term stay hotel. So they were like we like they're constantly trying to like renew it, revive it, fix it, but no matter what it's plagued. So by 2013, Alisa Lam, a Canadian student whose parents were immigrants from Hong Kong, decided to take a trip to California.
Starting point is 00:06:17 She was very active on her blog, turned Tumblr account about her dreams and her mental illness. She had actually dropped out of school after a relapse in her depression. She had been trying to go to college. It just wasn't working out. Lisa was actually diagnosed with bipolar disorder and depression, but a lot of people didn't know this detail until just barely like two years ago.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Think about thinking about this case from everyone's point of view before you knew that she was actually diagnosed with bipolar disorder and depression. And she was actually diagnosed with bipolar disorder again, depression. And she was actually on four medications at the time. But this trip to California was supposed to be the start of her traveling adventures, the thing she'd always wanted, like she was like, I'm going to take a break from college and I'm going to go do this.
Starting point is 00:06:58 So after making her way through San Diego, on January 26, Alisa arrived in LA and after two days she checked into the CISO hotel. And like I said, this can be a long-term hotel so many people lived here for short periods of time, like month, two months. Alisa was initially assigned to a shared room at the hotel, but her room it's actually ended up complaining about odd behavior from her. And so she was moved to her own room only two days into her stay. During her travels, Alisa had been in contact with her parents in British Columbia every single day. But on February 1, 2013, the day that Alisa was supposed to actually check out of the Cecil Hotel and leave for Santa
Starting point is 00:07:42 Cruz, her parents never heard from her and so they called the LAPD. After calling the LAPD, her parents flew out once they realized that Alisa was missing after no one could locate her in LAPD. And during all of this, like, oh, she's missing, whereas she's not at the hotel, a bookstore near the hotel actually said that the worker said she saw Alisa the day that she went missing that she had come into the bookstore she was outgoing and friendly she was buying gifts to send back to her family so police searched the hotel once they realized that she's like actually missing they send in sent dogs from the basement to the rooftop of the hotel but they
Starting point is 00:08:21 find nothing and they obviously didn't search all 700 rooms, but they did search some and Alisa's, which looked untouched. A week after Alisa had been missing, her family was posting flyers with her image online and throughout the neighborhood, what the problem is, is Skid Row is very transient with heavy, heavy drug use. So it was really hard to track Alisa's movements or who had seen her. Or if she might even be on the street currently, but there are so many people who live on the streets
Starting point is 00:08:54 within Skid Row that they can't find her. Two weeks after the disappearance and nothing to show in the investigation, LAPD publicly release the security camera footage from the last known siding of Alisa in the hotel. Weird, I wonder why they publicly released it. And this is a big part of this case for me too, but I'm going to talk about that after you've seen the footage.
Starting point is 00:09:17 So the footage was from February 1st, so the like basically last time our parents had heard from her. And these are the last known moments of Alisa Lam. No one has seen her since this security footage. Now, if you are not watching on YouTube, you need to go watch the short two-minute video if you haven't already seen it. This footage alone has a grip on the true crime community and the world in general. We'll post it on Instagram as well.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah, this footage is the reason that this case is so well known. It's actually the reason that there is a Netflix original docuseries covering this case. And I will warn you, this footage can be disturbing to some viewers once you know the context and that she ends up missing after you see what happens in this video. My gosh, does she get taken by aliens or something? I'm going to show you the video now.
Starting point is 00:10:04 OK. OK, so Garrett just watched the footage. But before he goes into what he thinks, what happens in this video. My gosh, does she get taken by aliens or something? I'm gonna show you the video now. Okay. Okay, so Garrett just watched the footage, but before he goes into what he thinks, I'm actually going to explain the eerie parts for those who are listening and don't have time right now to go watch it. So it starts with Alisa entering on an elevator, overly casual, almost like she's acting.
Starting point is 00:10:21 She kind of just walks in, I don't know know it's just so normal and she presses on a row of buttons like all four or five of them. So that's when you're like okay what's she doing because she's clicking more than one floor and then she backs into the corner of the elevator with her face facing the door waiting for the doors to close which is an strange I go to the corner of an elevator when I get in. But for some weird and mysterious reason that defies logic, which Garrett pointed out very quickly, the doors to the elevator don't close. They're just open. They're just sitting there open.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And I mean, this is like, we're talking two minutes of footage where these doors don't ever attempt to close. Yes, but she's also going in and out and so you know when you go. But you know how normally like they try to close and then it's like, oh, come in there. It's a pressure. That doesn't even happen. They don't even like try to close.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Anyways, so this footage is just so trippy. But Alisa tentatively then like randomly tiptoes to the open elevator door and I mean tiptoes. And then she manically jumps with one foot out of the door. Her back foot is still in the elevator and she's standing in a lunge and her front foot is outside of the elevator. Her body leaning forward out of the elevator as well. She frantically looks from side to side down the hallways of the hotel and then randomly just eerily jumps back into the elevator meeting her back foot into the middle of the hotel and then randomly just eerily jumps back into the elevator,
Starting point is 00:11:45 meeting her back foot into the middle of the elevator. And for me, this is the part in the footage where you're just like, something's wrong. Like something's obviously wrong. She stands in the center of the elevator holding her hands, clasped in front of her like nothing happened. Like she didn't just randomly like jump out of the elevator and look around. Then she backs into another corner in the elevator and at this point watching it seems as if she's hiding from someone. Like you can tell that she's uncomfortable, she's trying to hide
Starting point is 00:12:12 herself. And I have to point out at this point that the elevator doors have still not attempted to close. They're just sitting open. She waits for a while and then she tipped toes back over to the open elevator entrance. Now, I don't know how else to explain this next part without describing her as kind of like trying not to step on certain parts of the floor for fear. It will like set off a trap. Like you know in those movies where in order to get the
Starting point is 00:12:37 treasure at the end of the cave, you have to do some like dance maneuver through the cave to avoid all the traps. Yeah, I was gonna say it looked like she was dancing and then she was like waving was dancing and then she was waving her hands in weird emotions. Right, so that's what she's doing. Like meanwhile, acting like there is maybe someone outside
Starting point is 00:12:53 of the elevator that she's scared of, I don't know. But it's like she's square dancing all in the entrance of the elevator. I don't know how it's gonna explain it. This is crazy, you guys, you need to go watch this. I mean, Peyton's explaining it well, but if you get time, please go check out our social media it's because this, that was insane.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I think I was so mind blown watching it. I didn't even know how to react. Yeah, so she stands outside the elevator for a moment. She goes back in and she represses all of the buttons. The doors still don't close and then she walks back out and stands outside the elevator again. You can still see her though. She's right by the doors. back out and stands outside the elevator again. You can still see her though.
Starting point is 00:13:25 She's right by the doors. And it's while outside the elevator that she appears to be talking to someone dramatically with her hands. And this is what Garrett was talking about. But there's no one there that we can see, but she's moving her hands around. And it's very eerie for sure. She's kind of rolling her hands, counting her fingers almost, almost like she's like hand painting or finger painting.
Starting point is 00:13:44 And like you said, it looks like she's talking to somebody. Yeah, but there's no one there that we can see. There's no one visibly there. Yeah, she walks out of the camera frame and then the freaking doors still don't close until after what looks like, okay, so I don't know if you noticed this, but did you see the frame glitching?
Starting point is 00:14:01 No, but that doesn't really get to me as much just because camera's glitch. Okay. So that was happening the whole time, by the way. The frame kind of glitches the whole time. She leaves and then finally the door's closed, but that was two minutes of footage of her doing less. The door's not closing. And then the last minute of the video that the police released, remember publicly, is Jesse elevator making its way to all of the floors that she pressed. So to me, when you asked, why would they release this publicly, I'm kind of like, okay, because maybe it does seem a little personal.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Like she's obviously not, there's something wrong. And so to me, it's a little weird in that sense, but also why have a minute of footage of Jesse, no, there's no person, Jesse Elevator going up and down. I can't stop thinking about this footage. It. That's how everyone who's seen this footage knows exactly how you're lowering half. Oh my gosh, like I have so many different ideas
Starting point is 00:14:55 and maybe I'll wait for you to start telling a little more, but I guess I'll say my initial thoughts and then as you keep explaining it, I can go back. Yeah. But my initial thoughts are, there's something wrong. That maybe she's on some sort of drugs. It looks like she's talking to things that are not there. Correct.
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Starting point is 00:17:38 glitched out. It's not an actual time coded. It's all messed up and no one, not the hotel or police can tell us why. They said it was just messed up. Second, the video looks glitchy the whole time, like we were talking about, but some people think it looks like it's cutting and coming together. But obviously, no one from police have clarified if this footage is edited. Some people think it might be edited because to save like if when the video was going up and down, like there were other people they didn't want to release their, you know, their identity or whatever. And lastly, like Garrett said, something is wrong in this footage, whether someone was tormenting Alisa externally or internally, she is not okay.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And it's pretty obvious, which is why this footage was so devastating and mysterious when it was released. This footage literally goes viral the day it's released. And many theories begin popping up. Was she being haunted? Like this hotel is known for being haunted. It's known for like a ton of people taking their lives, a ton of murders. So was she being haunted? Was someone attacking her?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Was she on drugs or was she having a psychotic break? These are all the theories that come up. And they continue looking for her, the family and everyone, the police. But nothing really comes of it. Everyone's more just like, once again, they get security footage and now they're even more confused about what happened to her.
Starting point is 00:19:02 But during this frenzy, guests at the hotel began complaining of low water pressure. Some even claiming the water was black and tasted weird. So, on the morning of February 19th, Santiago Lopez, a hotel maintenance worker, made his way up to the roof where the access door is locked to all guests. You have to have a certain key to get up there. And he checked the 4,000 gallon water tanks that sit on the roof of this hotel. And it was during this search that he saw through what he says was an open hatch, Alisa Lam's decomposing body lying face up in one of the water tanks on top of the hotel. Just sitting in the water tank?
Starting point is 00:19:44 And they've been looking for her. It's and all the sudden they find her. So this devastating discovery considering the fact that police had searched the roof with dogs just days after the disappearance does not sit well with the public. Is there cameras on the roof? Like where's the other cameras? No cameras on the roof. Not enough cameras. Not only was the missing students still at the hotel when they'd been looking for her, people were literally drinking and brushing their teeth with water containing her decomposing body.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Oh my God. So it was a really bad look for the hotel and the police, like just not a good scenario. The LA corner issued that the cause of death was accidental drowning with bipolar disorder as a good scenario. The LA corner issued that the cause of death was accidental drowning with bipolar disorder as a significant factor. So he basically said that she took her life accidentally while having a psychotic break. That's what he concludes. Alisa Lam had been found naked with her clothing floating in the water with her as if she had
Starting point is 00:20:41 undressed once in the water. Her watch and room key were also with her. There was no evidence of physical trauma, sexual assault, or intentional suicide. A very small dosage of her prescription medication was found in her toxicology report, along with a very small trace of alcohol, but no other drugs were found in her system. And when I say her medication like a small dose, people assumed that she either was not taking the required amount or was trying to get off of her medication at the time. Has a new one in her family ever said that she's had
Starting point is 00:21:14 any sort of psychotic breakdowns before? So her family said she struggled with mental illness, but that she never showed signs of like a psychotic break or signs of contemplating suicide. She had never spoken to them about being suicidal. And she was not on drugs like ecstasy at the time of the video footage and her death. If in her toxicology report there were no drugs in her system. How do you commit suicide in a water tank? Right. So maybe though she was on drugs that had broken down in her system during the time that
Starting point is 00:21:48 she was floating in the tank. So I guess we won't know for sure because I guess there is a chance that they could have left her system during that time. The issue with the manner of death is that it was nearly impossible for Alisa to number one, get on the roof as a hotel guest because because that door's locked, unless an employee left the door propped open or opened it for her. And if she had tried to force the door open and alarm would have triggered,
Starting point is 00:22:12 she could have taken the fire escape from the window to the roof, but that is a very dangerous method. And people are like, this would have been very complicated for her to do, but they did notes in like the investigation that the scent dogs did lose her scent near her window. So maybe she climbed out of her window and got in the fire scape, but most people are like it. That's a very hard way for her to get up there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:36 It's rumored that two of the lids to the water tanks were open. So she could have, you know, climbed in the water tanks, but the hotel said no, they were closed. So this has been a source of issue because they were very heavy to remove. It would have been very hard for her to remove those herself. And the hotels like no, they were all on. Other people are like no, there were two that were open. Like it could have just been the hotel covering for themselves. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:02 There were also no fixed access to the water tanks. So hotel workers, when they would go into these water tanks, when Santiago, who discovered her, went up to discover her, they had to use ladders. Like, there was no way to climb on top of these water tanks without a ladder. Oh, like, bringing a portable ladder. Oh, so there was no ladder attached to the water tank?
Starting point is 00:23:25 That's what they said. They said that they would have to use ladders to look into the water, to be able to get up there and get into the water. Ooh, interesting. People also argued that the autopsy findings were suspicious because they had a lack of detail and her phone was never found, which is a little weird, if it was of her own will, because who took it, where to go, you know what I mean? According to medium.com,
Starting point is 00:23:51 the disappearance shows eerie similarities to that of the 2005 film Dark Waters, which I've never seen, but the movie is based on the short story, Floating Water, where a mother and her daughter find Dark Water leaking from their bedroom ceiling, and eventually the mother finds out that there had previously been a missing girl living in the room above theirs who accidentally drowned in the hotel's water tank.
Starting point is 00:24:13 How is it even possible? I don't know. Alisa's case is technically closed, but most people are very unhappy with the theory that she could have somehow maneuvered her way onto the roof, climbed into the tank without a ladder, maybe or maybe not got the lid off and dropped into the tank all while somehow ridding her phone and just earlier that day happily buying books at a bookstore for her family back home. It just doesn't make sense to me that she would take her life by jumping in a water tank. That seems super suspicious to me.
Starting point is 00:24:43 At least on purpose, right? Correct. So she did seem scared, however, and paranoid, in the video footage that you watched. So she might have jumped in the water tank to hide from whatever was tormenting her. I feel like in the footage, it clearly looks like she's trying to hide or get away.
Starting point is 00:24:59 She's clearly unwell. Maybe she jumped in trying to hide only to realize that there was no way to climb back out. So she took her clothes off because she was struggling. She wanted to lessen her weight. That's where I'm ending this story. There's a whole bunch more details because we're gonna know. Oh, we're stopping there. It's not, the case is closed. There's no answers to this case. It's an, I mean, it's an unsolved, solved mystery.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So that's it. Yeah. That's all you're giving me. That's all I'm giving you. Because we got to move on. We got more stories. But this is just our first case of mysterious footage. But I will say she was very open about her mental health. I think mental illness is something that we don't clearly understand. And I think it is something that could have led to this outcome. So when I piece things together, I don't know. I'm not gonna take a stance on it because I clearly don't know. Some suspicious going on in my books. I also think that there might be ghosts in that hotel, okay? Some crazy going on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:53 But like Payton said, I'm sure there's a ton of theories. So let's go to the next one. So our next case actually takes place in June of 2014. 28 year old Lars Mintenk is a German traveler visiting the Golden Sands Resort in Varna, Bulgaria. He is actually on holiday with his friends. Lars and his friends had actually arrived in Varna on June 30, 2014. They were hanging out, partying, doing what you do on vacation with your friends. But a week into the vacation while drinking with his friends at the bar,
Starting point is 00:26:25 Lars got into a fight. He was a fan of a certain team, and some rival fans were at the same bar, so you know, sports and trash talk, and it resulted in a bar fight. After the fight broke up, Lars actually stormed out of the bar alone to cool off, but once gone, his friends were unable to find him for the
Starting point is 00:26:45 rest of the nights. But the next morning, Lars surprised his friends by showing back up to their resort room, and he told them that he had been beaten all night by the four men from the bar, or that those men had hired someone else to beat him up. It kind of depends on which friend you talk to. But either way, the premise of the story is that the fight extended far beyond the bar when these men had exited more brutality onto Lars. Lars and his friends decided to find a doctor to take a look at Lars because he had been beaten up and they needed to assess
Starting point is 00:27:17 his injuries. They were supposed to leave for home soon and so they wanted to make sure he was okay before they left. After the visit the doctor concluded that Lars had a cracked jaw and a ruptured eardrum. The doctor prescribed him antibiotics and advised Lars to not fly that day with the rest of his friends, because the pressure from the plane would not do anything good for his ruptured eardrum. And so he told Lars to hill up for a couple days in a hotel, let his friends fly home and then he can fly home after his friends. And although not wanting to leave their friend, Lars assured them that he was fine.
Starting point is 00:27:51 So they all checked out of the resort and his friends left for the airport while Lars checked into hotel color Varna for one night to try and rest his ear before he leaves. And it was at this hotel that Lars started to behave in a way that stood out to other guests and his family. He began acting paranoid that the four men from the bar were still after him. He actually hid in an elevator for an extended period of time, and then eventually left the hotel around midnight. He returned hours later, but the front desk didn't know where he had gone and he didn't tell anybody During this time he called his mother and in a hushed voice told her that there were some men Following him wanting to know what drugs he got from the doctor and he felt like you know
Starting point is 00:28:35 They were targeting him and he was scared and that she needed to go cancel all of his credit cards Yes, and so she's worried about him because he's obviously acting strange What? Yes. And so she's worried about him because he's obviously acting strange. But despite all of this, the next day, Lars made his way to the Varna airport to try and catch a flight back home. So it seems like everything's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:54 So at the airport, he met with another doctor to try and figure out if his ear was healed enough to board a plane home. And it was while the doctor was examining Lars that a man who was working on construction at the airport walked up, interrupted the doctor and Lars to ask some questions. Wait, so the doctor was at the airport? Yeah, there's like an airport doctor. They have those still like if someone gets hurt, there's a doctor at the airport. Yeah. So that's who he was with just trying to say, do I have clearance to fly? I think like made an appointment with. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:29:25 When the construction worker comes up and interrupts him, suddenly, Lars stood up and frantically fled the doctor and worker, leaving his bags behind. And this is where our footage comes in. Okay, you guys, we are getting into an ad. I know you guys have both heard the story about how Garrett and I were both paying separately for peacock.
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Starting point is 00:31:20 doctor. And then as if out of the blue, Lars comes full on sprinting out of the doctors and through the airport, hunger. So he took off, he came sprinting and then he just kept running, it just didn't stop. Oh, he's running Usain Bolt without his bags through the airport to the exit. Like he's belining to the exit. You know how far he went from the airport?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah, so once he exits the front doors, it's almost like he doesn't know where he's running to. He stops and then immediately shifts direction sprinting to the left. He kind of slows to a walk, but a rushed walk as he makes his way to the outskirts of the airport by foot. And because we don't know the layout of the airport, it's hard to make out, but people who do know the layout say that one of the last times in the footage, at the very end of the security footage, you can see Lars, he's literally scaling offence and hopping over it, and then continues running into the forest line, never to be seen again.
Starting point is 00:32:23 That's literally the last footage anyone has of Lars and the last time anyone has ever seen him or talked to him. What in the world? And it was of him leaving his bags in the airport taking off by foot, literally scaling fences into the forest in a place he doesn't even know. This isn't his like the only thing I think that could have happened is those guys showed up at the airport if freaked him out so he ran but no one's chasing him
Starting point is 00:32:51 one no one's chasing you into you're in an airport like you're in a safe space according to the doctor the construction worker walked in it wasn't like they were alone in a room it wasn't like but was a construction, one of those guys that he nobody knows. All the sun spooked got up and went sprinting out of the room, leaving his bags there. What the heck? Never too seen again. Okay, on to the next one. So the next case we will discuss today, the next mysterious footage case is that of Jennifer Kessie.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Jennifer was born on May 20, 1981. She graduated from Vivian Gether High School in Tampa, Florida and attended the University of Central Florida in Orlando to get her finance degree. Jennifer was working as a finance major and had actually just bought a condo home in Orlando. In January of 2006, Jennifer went on vacation with her boyfriend to the Virgin Islands. She returned to Orlando on Sunday, January 22nd and stayed the night at her boyfriend's home instead of like going straight from the airport to her home. The next morning, she woke up, that's Monday, January 23rd, and she drove straight from her boyfriend's home to work. That night around 6 p.m., she left work and called her dad on the phone while driving home, January 23rd, and she drove straight from her boyfriend's home to work.
Starting point is 00:34:05 That night around 6pm, she left work and called her dad on the phone while driving home, and then after getting home and winding down Jennifer called her boyfriend from her home around 10pm for a good night call. The next morning, Tuesday, January 24th, around 7.30, Jennifer left for work again. It was between 8.9. that morning that Jennifer's boyfriend began to grow confused as he waited for Jennifer to call or at least text him. Jennifer almost always called her text at her boyfriend while on her way to work. That is when they usually said they're good morning, but when neither came, her boyfriend tried
Starting point is 00:34:41 to call her, but his call went directly to voicemail. He talked it up to the fact that she had mentioned that she had an important meeting that morning at work, so maybe she had just forgot to call him and then turned her phone off. Throughout the day, he continues to try and get a hold of her, but to know of L. And while Jennifer's boyfriend is struggling to get a hold of her, her workplace is frustrated, then worried, when Jennifer fails to show up for work at all that day. Her employer decides to call her parents and alert them about Jennifer's absence and
Starting point is 00:35:10 ask, you know, just check in, make sure she's okay, was she sick, why hadn't she shown up. But Jennifer's parents also hadn't heard from her since she called her dad the night before, they had no idea where she was either. So around 11 a.m., they called Jennifer's boyfriend to see if he knew where she was either. So around 11 a.m. they called Jennifer's boyfriend to see if he knew where she was. They said, hey, she didn't show up for work. Is she with you? Do you know where she is? But we all know that he was worried all on his own already about her. So with nobody able to locate Jennifer or get a hold of her, her parents begin the drive from Tampa to Orlando. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:35:41 now very alarmed. They're just going to go check in at her home, make sure everything's okay. At 3pm, Jennifer's parents and her brother arrive at the condo and they discover evidence that Lisa to believe that Jennifer had been there that morning. But her car is missing out of the parking lot. They decide to call the police, but Jennifer is an adult whose car is missing, so they tell her parents like they can't do much until more time has passed. Like she's an adult and her car is missing. So she could be anywhere. At 5 p.m. that night, Jennifer's friends and family begin hanging up missing person flyers
Starting point is 00:36:12 and spreading the news. They're like, nope, something is wrong. She wouldn't do this. And with the attention spreading for Jennifer, police decided to send a detective out to her home and begin questioning and investigating. They discover that there was no sign of force entry or struggle in her apartment.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So their first conclusion is that if she is really missing and has met foul play, it most likely happened on her way from her front door to her car when she was heading for work, not inside the house. Police, family, and friends spend the whole next day searching and questioning and worried about Jennifer, but nothing really comes of it. But the next day, Thursday, January 26, two days since Jennifer went missing, around 810 AM, a tenant from a nearby housing complex, literally that's only 1.2 miles
Starting point is 00:36:58 away from Jennifer's home is watching the news. They see Jennifer's picture and hear about the missing person and her missing car, and it's then that the tenant realizes something. They think that Jennifer's missing car is literally parked right outside their apartment in the parking lot of the complex. It's only a mile away. They call police and explain, well, I don't know, but it's the same description and the car has been sitting here for a couple days. No one's come to it. It hasn't moved. So police obviously head over to the complex and they confirm that the car is in fact Jennifer's 2004 missing Chevy Malibu.
Starting point is 00:37:34 It had been parked in a nearby parking lot. It's at the parking lot when police realize that there are cameras that if working would have seen this car pull in. And so this is where our eerie security footage comes into play for this case. You don't think it's her. No way. What do you guys think? Let me explain it to him. So when police watch the security footage, they scroll back and discover that the car was parked back on Tuesday, January 24th, the day that she went missing. And although the camera's far away at first, you can clearly see the car drive in
Starting point is 00:38:08 and park in the parking lot at 12 p.m. That would have been during the time that her parents were driving from Tampa to Orlando to check on her. Okay. Her car is being parked in a parking lot a mile away from her home. The car pulls in at parks
Starting point is 00:38:24 and then you can see someone get out of the driver's seat and close the door. They turn away from the car and they begin slowly walking away, making their way out of the parking lot, walking all the way across the parking lot. You can see it on the camera. It's very far away, so it's impossible
Starting point is 00:38:39 to make out any characteristics besides the fact that someone... And I don't think it's her. I mean, yes, that's my opinion. Garrett doesn't think it's her. Someone just parked her car. There's no way. In a parking lot near her home while her parents were trying to find her. This person is obviously involved in whatever happened.
Starting point is 00:38:55 No questions asked, why would they have her car? Why would they be parking it, right? There's just no way. There's no way that was her when I just saw. So, I mean, obviously, I'm not an expert, but that did not look like her. I don't think it did either, but police then tracked the person walking and they find another camera.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And I think this camera's like from a front door. That's what I'm assuming. So residential area. And this time, the camera is closer and you can like spot the person walking. So when they get a hold of the footage, they know they will finally have a face to release to the public in this case a person of interest a suspect
Starting point is 00:39:27 There's zero face in that but the camera that captured the person the second time is shot in still frames So it's kind of skippy because it's basically just takes like a picture every two seconds or whatever So the angle of this footage is from behind a fence the camera is pointing at the road and the sidewalk where the suspect is walking. So you can see the person walking behind the iron fence that's like probably fencing off the home. The problem is that once police watch the footage like Garrett just did, they can't believe their eyes. The three images that shows the person of interest are of no help. I mean, you can see what they're wearing, you can see their shoes, it's a very clear image,
Starting point is 00:40:10 but each still picture, the person's face is obstructed behind a fence post. Like, literally, what are the chances that the snapshots are taken at the only time that the person is behind those two thicker posts? What, um, the she have longer hair? Yes. So there's no way that was her then.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Because the person that they captured... Well, you can't really see the head. I have short hair. Yes, I mean, it doesn't look like they have hair, but also it is behind a fence post. There's no way, guys. The face is concealed. The head is basically concealed.
Starting point is 00:40:41 You can't see it. Basically, this iron fence is like skinny irons and then like the thick posts that's like the, I don't know, probably the structure or whatever. And each time that person is walking, it's head is behind one of those thicker posts. So you can see the body, but each time it snaps, it's head is concealed.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And that was it. Well, so police are basically stunned at this point because they now have two different videos of this person of interest with no leads. The suspect is described as the luckiest person of interest ever. They were captured on two cameras but hidden the whole entire time. The FBI was called in to try and help and they determined from the footage that the person was 5'3", or 5'5".
Starting point is 00:41:21 They couldn't determine a possible gender from the footage. So I personally think that it looks like a male, but I'm not sure. Like I said, you can't see the face, but the boots also feel like it looks like they might be wearing a jumpsuit. So to me, I don't know, it just the outfit looks more masculine than feminine to me. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I wear very masculine outfits sometimes too. So I don't know. The police searched her car and found that it was wiped down, only collecting a latent print and a small DNA fiber. Her cell phone, iPod, keys, purse briefcase, as well as her are missing.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Using scent dogs, the dogs traced a distinct scent from Jennifer's car, back the way the person on the video footage walked in all the way to Jennifer's apartment. So police believe that the person dropped the car like we saw, and then walked on foot, passing that house like we saw, the mile back to Jennifer's apartment. Weird. So everyone in her life has been interviewed, but everyone has also been cleared. The FBI now have custody over this case, but once again, the video footage does not help us solve it.
Starting point is 00:42:24 That's crazy. It's, the video footage does not help us solve it. That's crazy. It's because the video footage sucked. Like how do we have footage of people's last moments? Like literally all three of those people were the last time they were ever, I mean, well, not really her because we don't know if that's her or not. But footage that should help us solve a case, like we said, like it's inevitable. If you have footage, we've seen so many cases that are solved by footage, but these ones just make it more of a mystery. So these cases were just three of many disappearances that have been caught on camera, but remain unsolved or unsolved,
Starting point is 00:42:55 but solved. We will cover more of these in the future, obviously. But until then, if you know anything about these disappearances that could help solve the case, please contact authorities because there's still so much information missing in almost all of these. Those are the mysterious disappearances caught on camera. But sad is it just gone too. Right? The last moments we ever saw. It's horrible they're just gone. And I think there's something to like, you know, sometimes people do want to disappear.
Starting point is 00:43:21 For all we know, Jennifer could have set that up or any of them, well, not Alisa, but either of those could have set it up and, you know, willingly chose to disappear. But there's still a family out there looking for them. That's just weird, yeah. All right. Thank you, everyone, for listening. I do want to remind you that if you want to check out our Patreon and help support the show, you can find that at patreon.com slash murder with my husband. And we will see you guys next week with another episode. I love it. And I hate it. Goodbye.

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