Muscle for Life with Mike Matthews - 5 Ways to Know if a Fitness Guru is Full of Sh…
Episode Date: March 7, 2018The fitness industry is extremely tough to navigate as a beginner because of the sheer amount of “gurus” proclaiming they have the “secrets” to getting ripped. If you hit the popular fitness s...ites, you’ll find contradictory advice at every turn. -Some people say you have to eat bland “clean” foods to get ripped, while others will say you can do it eating junk food. -Some say you should focus on higher rep “pump” training, while others say you have to focus on heavy lifting. -Some say you have to eat meals every few hours, while others say meal frequency is irrelevant. -Some say high-protein diets are key, while others say it’s not that important. -Some say genetics play a huge role, while others say they’re barely a factor. How can you know who’s right and who’s wrong? How can you know who to listen to? Well, I used to wrestle with all these issues and have not only escaped the maze but, ironically, have become something of a fitness guru myself. In this episode, I want to share with you 5 criteria you can use to judge if someone is worth listening to or not. Let’s get started. Want to get my best advice on how to gain muscle and strength and lose fat faster? Sign up for my free newsletter! Click here: https://www.muscleforlife.com/signup/
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If a fitness guru doesn't demonstrate a good understanding of the science of whatever it is that he's talking about, he or she is probably going to lead you astray.
The fitness industry is very tough to navigate as a beginner, mostly because of the sheer amount of gurus out there proclaiming that they have the
secrets to getting ripped. Pretty much everywhere you turn, you get contradictory advice because
some people say that you have to eat very bland, quote unquote, clean or quote unquote, healthy
foods to get into great shape. While other people say that you can do it eating nothing but junk food.
Some people say that you should really focus on high rep pump training. While other people say that you should focus more on heavy strength training. Some people say that, you know,
you have to eat meals every few hours to stoke your metabolism. And other people say that that's
not true, that meal frequency is basically irrelevant.
Some people say that high protein dieting is very important and they also will share specific numbers. Like maybe they'll say, oh, one gram of protein per pound of body weight per day.
And other people will say, ah, protein is not that important. Or they'll say that one gram per
pound per day is much too high. And it really should be some other number that they might throw out there.
Some people say that genetics play a huge role in what you're able to achieve.
Other people say that they're really just not a major factor unless you're trying to become a competitive bodybuilder or fitness competitor.
And so, of course, then it's confusing.
I know because I used to be one of those people who was wondering, okay, who's right,
who's wrong? How can I determine who is worth listening to? And fortunately, I have escaped the labyrinth and I've become something of a, I guess, a fitness guru myself, ironically.
And in this podcast, I want to share with you five criteria that you can use to judge if someone is worth listening to or not.
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Okay, so the first thing you should know that if a fitness guru or expert claims to have a
revolutionary diet or exercise routine, something that changes the game, they are probably full of shit because anyone that
claims to have found special shortcuts or biohacks to gaining muscle or losing fat or getting strong
is almost always lying. Sometimes legitimate people use claims along those lines to just
hook people's interests and get them to read or watch a video or listen to
what they have to say. And then what they actually have to say is good. But most of the time,
these people who say that they have the secret sauce, that they have the special methods,
they know things that nobody else knows, most of the time, these people are just lying.
most of the time these people are just lying. If they say that their discovery is going to revolutionize muscle building or fat burning or whatever, they're lying. And they are lying
because it works. Contrarian marketing like that works really well. When somebody speaks out and
speaks against things that everybody knows, it of course grabs people's attention. It makes them
perk up. It makes them listen. It makes them more suggestible to being influenced as well. It's just
how we humans are wired. And the more contrarian a pitch is, the more that it goes against
the fundamentals, the things that are non-negotiable as far as getting fit goes,
like energy balance, macronutrient balance,
progressive overload, and so forth, the more likely it is complete bullshit.
Now, fortunately, these type of fraudsters are usually pretty easy to spot. So these people
often tell you that traditional methods of building muscle and getting lean don't work
or don't work as well as they should.
You know, they'll say things like bulking and cutting doesn't work or calorie counting doesn't
work or traditional strength and hypertrophy training doesn't work and so forth. These people
will also often share weird tips and tricks or hacks that are supposed to help you get bigger, get stronger, get leaner,
or get healthier. They also often promise fast and easy results. They'll promise things that
you would think would take six months or longer, and they'll say that you can do them in three
months or less, for example. They also often share their transformation stories, their personal
stories, and their physiques to sell their methods.
And these stories, by the way, almost always follow the same formula. This is an old copywriting
formula, which goes like this. You have your starting situation, you have your tried and
failed phase, you have your personal breakthrough, your discovery, you have now your consistent
results, and then you have the others did it too.
So other people were able to achieve the same types of results and have the same breakthroughs
using your discoveries or, you know, in this case, their discoveries. And the final phase is
you can learn too. And it's not that that story formula is inherently unethical or wrong. It
actually is a great formula. I've used it myself,
but you should recognize it when you see it and you should be skeptical. And that also means you
should be skeptical of me and you should be skeptical of my story and you should be skeptical
of what I'm teaching as well. I don't want anybody to just accept what I say as dogma. I want people
to analyze me and my work critically and come to their own conclusions
about it. So these types of people also often refer to scientific research without citing sources
for your review. And they often coin and even trademark weird pseudoscientific names for their
little pet training and dietary theories. So for example, when somebody tries to sell you on the revolutionary
nature of their maximum overload turbulence training, you should be skeptical. Just remember
that you can never get around the basics. You can never get around energy balance or macronutrient
balance, food choices, nutrient timing. Those are the big pillars of diet and that's never
going to change. And as far as training goes, you have
intensity, you have frequency, you have exercise selection, you have load, you have progressive
overload. Those are the main principles. Those are the big levers that you can pull. And the further
you move away from those things and start going into more obscure stuff, the further afield you go,
the more likely you are going to
be disappointed. Okay, so the next point here is if a fitness guru doesn't demonstrate a good
understanding of the science of whatever it is that he's talking about, he or she is probably
going to lead you astray. And this point is particularly important because the fitness space
is so riddled with gym lore and bro science and all kinds of myths and
fallacies are kept alive simply by word of mouth. For example, do any of these things sound familiar?
Bad carbs make you fat. You got to eat clean to lose weight. You have to eat a ton of protein
to build muscle. You're going to lose muscle or not gain muscle as quickly as
possible if you don't eat protein every couple hours. Eating too few meals per day slows your
metabolism down and may even cause your body to go into starvation mode. Eating at night,
and particularly eating carbs or even worse, sugar at night causes fat storage. Now, chances are that you've heard those things
repeated ad nauseum by magazines, bloggers, gym buddies, trainers, and just about anybody else
that talks about fitness. And if you're familiar with my work, then you know my position on all
of that, which is it's all false. And how do I know that? Is it because I have some inside
scoop on revolutionary fat burning and muscle building secrets? No. I know that those things
are false first and foremost because I have reviewed a lot of scientific research that has
categorically disproven them. Research that I cite for others to review in my books and articles and my YouTube
videos and so forth. And of course, I've also found that my own experiences, both with my body
and with the thousands of people that I've worked with, is in line with the research. And I used to
believe those things, or at least I used to think that they're probably true because I had read
about them in magazines and read about them on the internet and heard people speak about them.
But I have since learned my lesson. Now, when I want to know more about any aspect of health or
fitness, I always turn to the scientific literature first. And in particular, I look for reviews and
meta-analyses first because those are the best forms of evidence that we have
in science. And in my opinion, you should do the same and you should really only listen to people
that do this. And yeah, it's time consuming and it's sometimes frustrating to wade through a lot
of jargon and a lot of complex, hard to understand things to just find
an answer to sometimes a simple question. But I think it's really the only way to be truly
objective about this game and understand what we do and don't understand and what we can and can't
be certain about. So if a fitness guru makes no reference
whatsoever to scientific research, watch out. Chances are they are going to be wrong about
quite a few things. And if a fitness guru makes casual references to research without specific
citations, this is better, but I myself am still wary of what this
person says because I want to see studies for myself and I want to see not just study abstracts
for myself. I want to see these studies themselves for myself. I want to see how they were designed,
how they were executed. I want to look at the data. I want to look at the conclusions based on the data because many times
research is misunderstood or misinterpreted or misattributed by people. And often, you know,
by mistake, sometimes deliberately, usually that's to sell things, but more often than not,
the mistakes are honest, but they are mistakes nonetheless. Now, if a fitness guru regularly
references specific studies and regularly references research and even discusses the
details of specific studies, that is a good sign. Again, I myself want to see the studies.
Unless I know that the person that I'm listening to knows the science, then I'm happy to take their interpretation.
If it's not something that I myself want to really dive into, but if it's something I really want to
make sure that I understand, I still want to see the studies for myself and see if my conclusions
line up with the conclusions of the person whose article I'm reading or podcast I'm listening to
or so forth. And in case you're wondering, you can find millions of studies from all around the world on the website PubMed. And those that aren't freely available on PubMed,
which is many, unfortunately, can be accessed using a service like Deep Dive. And that's D-Y-V-E.
So deepdyve.com is a great resource for accessing full papers.
is a great resource for accessing full papers.
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Twitter at Muscle for Life and Facebook at Muscle for Life Fitness. shape themselves doesn't necessarily mean that they can help you get into good shape as well. I don't know how many times people have come to me ready to just give up after some online
fitness coach, some Instagram coach prescribed them a ridiculous regimen of a starvation,
very low calorie diet consisting of a handful of very bland, approved foods, bodybuilder type of diet, and then long grueling
weightlifting sessions and hours and hours of cardio every week and handfuls of pills and
powders every day. And some people are like, you know, if that's what it takes to just look good
and feel good, then I guess this fitness thing is not for me. And I understand. I would feel the exact same way.
And fortunately, it does not have to be like that. If you have had that experience, you should know
that a good coach should be able to get you into great shape eating the foods that you like. And
you really should never feel starved. You shouldn't really be battling with hunger or cravings.
And you shouldn't have to do any more than, let's's say four to six hours of exercise per week. And
that's both weightlifting and cardio. And there are plenty of good coaches out there, including
Instagram coaches. There are a lot of good people that know what they're doing and can get good
results. And those people will always have good client success stories and not just before and
after pictures because anyone can just find before and after pictures on the internet and make fake successes, but they'll have video success stories. They will
tag their clients on social media. You can see there are real people who went through real
transformations and these clients are going to have made clear progress and they're going to
talk about their experience and they're going to share their story. That's what you want to see,
not just before and after images. If you reverse image search before and after images that
are posted around on some of these profiles and some of these websites, you'll see that there are
many people and many websites using the exact same images. Okay, so the next point here is if a
fitness guru doesn't walk the walk themselves, doesn't really look the part,
then you probably shouldn't listen to them. Now, there are exceptions to this, of course.
There are some people out there who aren't in tremendously good shape themselves, but who are
tremendously knowledgeable. However, this rule of thumb is pretty workable. If the guy or gal that
you are considering working with or following isn't in great shape themselves,
you're probably better off ignoring them. So if they aren't strong, if they're not lean,
if they're not muscular, chances are they're not going to be able to help you do the same.
Now it's possible that they do know what they should be doing and therefore they could tell
you what to do. And maybe they're just too lazy to do it themselves or don't care enough, but there aren't very many people that fit that description. In most cases,
the skinny fat guys and gals who are billing themselves as fitness experts really have no
place advising you or anybody else on how to get fit because they simply don't know how to get fit.
And this includes the more scientifically oriented people as well,
who can talk about studies for days, but couldn't deadlift their own body rate to
save their lives. You know, people that will argue that 30 rep sets are just as good for
building muscle as five rep sets. And the only way to build muscle is to train every major muscle
group in your body three times per week. And you never need more than 0.8 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day,
and so forth, yet who look like they don't even lift. Just know that there are people out there
who get off debating obscure, in many cases, irrelevant or impractical aspects of getting fit as opposed to actually
doing the work and getting fit, as Martin Burkhan calls it, fuck around-itis, right?
Okay, the next point here is if a fitness guru looks too good, they are probably on steroids,
and you just need to know that that changes everything. Now, everybody knows that the
freakish-looking bodybuilders featured in magazines and so forth are on ridiculous amounts of drugs, but many people don't know just how
prevalent steroids are in the fitness scene in general. And I know this might sound cynical,
but you should know that a large percentage of people who are making a living or at least
making part of their living off of their physiques
are on steroids. And yes, this includes fitness models and fitness competitors, but it also
includes YouTube stars, social media influencers, and even bloggers and authors as well. Now, all
of these people claim that they're natural, of course. And if you don't know how to spot the
telltale signs of steroid use, you might
believe them. And that's actually kind of strange to me too. I don't know why so many of these
people think that they have to claim natural when to anyone that knows anything about steroids,
they are so obviously not natural. And if you want to know more about that, head over to
muscleforlife.com and search for steroids. You can check out an article I wrote on just steroids in general, side effects, and how to spot steroid use.
Because, again, in many cases, and I'm thinking of specific people on YouTube, on Instagram, who will say lifetime natural, swear up and down, never touched a steroid, never will, are on a lot of drugs.
never touched a steroid, never will, are on a lot of drugs. I don't know why so many people think that they have to insist on being natural. If I were on steroids, I could see being open
about it actually being a positive thing because it doesn't necessarily ruin your credibility,
especially if I were to say, look, I'm on steroids and here's why. Let's say I had a good reason for
being on steroids. Let's say that I wanted to compete. You're not going to go anywhere in the
world of bodybuilding or physique competition without a lot of drugs, period. So if I were to
say, look, I really want to compete. The only way I can do that is to take steroids. Unfortunately,
that's why I'm on steroids. However, I want you to know that here are the
potential downsides. Here are the risks. I do not recommend that everybody jump on steroids.
And furthermore, you should know that things are very different. I get to now do things with my
body that you natural weightlifters should not be doing because of these drugs. Again, that's the
way I would go. And I think that people would actually
appreciate that and they would find it interesting. And you could sell people on like, okay, so this
guy's on steroids and that's fine. I mean, most people probably don't have much of a moral view
of it one way or another. Most people probably agree like, hey, it's your body, do what you want.
But one, he's open about it. So we appreciate that. And two, he distinguishes between natural
weightlifting and enhanced weightlifting. And he offers advice maybe for people who are on drugs,
you can push the envelope a bit more. You can push the intensity. You can push the frequency.
You can push the volume more than when you're not on drugs. He's not telling everybody to do what
he does because he knows that people, most people out there are not going to be able to do what he does. Anyways, that's what I would
do personally if I were ever to be on steroids. And I think that's a much smarter play in terms
of branding and positioning than take a bunch of drugs, be jacked as fuck, be lean as fuck,
be strong as fuck, and just swear up and down that you're natural, natural,
natural, natural, when every sign says otherwise. So anyways, just know that when you see these guys
and these girls who have big grainy, almost stone like muscles, very full, very three-dimensional,
and you have deep cuts everywhere you look, especially in the smaller muscles like the
serratus and the intercostals, as well as extremely low levels of body fat. Let's say
anywhere between, if you're looking, talking about guys, six to, well, let's say more like
five to 7% year round, in addition to being big, full, hard looking. And in women, you probably would see more like 12 to 15% on top of the big muscles,
the dry look, the full look. That is drugs every time. I really do wish that we could look like
that without drugs. So a simple little checklist here for spotting drug use. First, if someone is
freakishly huge, they're on drugs, period. I know it's obvious.
I know, but it should be on the list. Two, if somebody has an outstanding physique and is
constantly talking about how they're natural, even if they're joking about it, they are probably on
drugs. I don't know why this is. This is some weird pathological thing. It's like the politician,
right? That is constantly saying how honest he is and how much he loves God and
loves his country and loves his family. And then we find out that he's like a serial molester,
rapist, pedophile, right? I don't know. It's just something about it. Some weird psychological that
when you are constantly doing something that I guess you know you shouldn't be doing,
you feel like you have to virtue signal and you have to constantly proclaim how you are the exact
opposite. So again, great physique and always talking about how natural they are, always joking
about how natural they are, or maybe even joking about steroid use one way or the other, probably
on drugs. Okay. The next point here is if somebody has an outstanding physique and their workouts are
two, three hour long sessions of a ton of volume, a bunch of high
rep work and high frequency. And then the gym, five, six, seven days a week, just blowing
themselves up. They're on drugs. This type of training doesn't work for naturals because we
can't recover. You might be able to get away with it if you're in a surplus and if you are young
and your body is particularly good at recovering, you might be able to get away with it if you're in a surplus and if you are young and your body is particularly good at recovering, you might be able to get away with it for a little
bit. But by a little bit, I mean like two or three months until you just really start feeling like
shit. I know that personally because I've done it myself and my body is very good at recovering
actually. And I mean, I'm 33 now, so it's not exactly what it was when I was 23, 24. But when I was 25, 26, I really pushed
the envelope in my training. And I just know there's a point where you just can't keep going
without it really taking a toll on your body. Okay. So the next point here is if somebody has
an outstanding physique and never seems to go above 10% body fat if you're a guy, even when bulking, or let's say it's a 20%
or so if it's a girl. And if they also are eating a lot of food, they're on drugs, period.
And this is also usually accompanied by humble brags of like, oh, I've been bulking for three
months, getting a little bit fluffy now, and they're still like basically shredded. Or in some
cases, I've seen guys, fake natties, just lie about their body fat percentage to throw people off. I've seen guys
who have spent months and months and months, quote unquote, clean bulking, spending a lot of time in
the gym every week, putting up big numbers, high intensity workouts, high volume workouts,
high frequency workouts. And after many months of this, still
looking pretty good, full abs, vascularity, you know, maybe nine or 10% body fat. And they'll say,
oh, you know, 13 to 15% simply to make people think that they've gained more fat than they have.
And this is because with the right cocktail of drugs, you can eat a lot of food and you can get really
strong and gain a lot of muscle without gaining very much fat. And lastly, if somebody has an
incredible physique and they compete professionally, so if they have a pro card, even in a
natural league, they are on drugs. Let's stop pretending that the drug testing in most natural leagues even isn't an
absolute joke and isn't extremely easy to get around. Again, there are some exceptions to all
these points. Even, for example, the last point, take someone like Eric Helms, who does compete
professionally in a natural bodybuilding league, and I believe is truly natural. I do not think
that Eric Helms is on drugs. And I don't just say that
because I like him and like his work and think he's a good guy. I say that because, you know,
if you look at him objectively, there are no signs of drug use. There's no clear signs of drug use.
His FFMI is within the range of natural. It's the high end, but you know, he's put in many years of
hard work. He does not stay super shredded year round. He is not
incredibly strong. He's very strong, but he's not next level drug strong. And when he diets down
for bodybuilding shows, yes, he looks good and he gets very lean, but look at his pictures versus
the IFBB physique guys. If you want to see the difference between a true, what I believe is
a true natural bodybuilder in contest shape versus an enhanced bodybuilder, even though the physique
guys are not like in the bodybuilding class per se, but it's comparable. A natural bodybuilder
is actually probably smaller than the physique guys that are enhanced. Now, in case you're
wondering why all this matters, why should we even care who's on drugs and who's not? Why should we
care what people do with their bodies? I agree. I mean, I'm with you on that. I actually don't
personally care at all who uses steroids and who doesn't. But you do need to keep in mind though,
that when you're taking advice from people, it does matter. Because if somebody's on drugs and they
don't know what it's like to not be on drugs, they don't know the difference between natural
weightlifting and enhanced weightlifting. And many of these guys don't because they got on drugs very
early. In many cases, they got on drugs right in the beginning of their weightlifting career. So
they have never even experienced what it's like to be a natural weightlifter. If you're going to
take advice from that person and you're a natural weightlifter, it may or may not work out. They may or may not know what they're
talking about. On the other hand, they may know exactly what they're talking about and they might
give you great advice. So you got to be careful. That's all I'm saying. You got to be careful.
Lastly, certifications. How much do certifications matter? And the long story short here is being certified as a personal
trainer means essentially nothing. You can get certified doing online courses and all you have
to do is memorize some basic facts to pass a test. And in some cases, they're basically open book
tests. So you don't even have to memorize anything. And if you're doing it online, you don't even have
to go looking. It's really just like, can you search for keywords and copy and paste stuff? And there you go. You got your trainer's
license. And this helps explain, of course, why we see so many trainers doing so many foolish
things with their clients. Now, as far as a formal education goes, this is definitely a good sign,
but don't let a degree take precedence over everything else that we've
discussed in this podcast. Because unfortunately, there are plenty of health and fitness gurus out
there who have rather impressive academic resumes actually, and who aren't in very good shape
themselves, who don't have good client successes, and who are more interested in hawking their quote unquote revolutionary
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