Muscle for Life with Mike Matthews - The Best of Muscle For Life: Genetics & Muscle Gain, Making Better Meal Plans, and Meditations on Mastery

Episode Date: December 10, 2021

Some people—my favorite people—listen to most or even all of my podcasts, but my wizbang analytics tell me that while many listeners tune in on a regular basis, they don’t catch every installmen...t of Muscle for Life and thus miss out on insights that could help them do at least a little better inside and outside the gym. That’s why I do “best of” episodes that contain a few of the most practical and compelling ideas, tips, and moments from the more popular episodes I’ve published over the years. This way, you can learn interesting insights that you might have otherwise missed and find new episodes of the show to listen to. So, in this installment of The Best of Muscle for Life, you’ll be hearing hand-picked morsels from three episodes: Menno Henselmans on How Genetics Influence Muscle Building (Originally published 1/21/2017) How to Make Meal Plans That Work For Any Diet (Originally published 5/29/2019) My Top 5 Takeaways from Mastery by Robert Greene (Originally published 9/15/2017) And we’ll be starting with number one, Menno Henselmans on how genetics influence muscle building. Timestamps: 0:00 - Pre-order my new fitness book now for a chance to win over $12,000 in splendid swag: https://www.muscleforlifebook.com/ 4:16 - Menno Henselman on How Genetics Influence Muscle Building 13:57 - How to Make Meal Plans That Work For Any Diet 23:13 - My Top 5 Takeaways from Mastery by Robert Greene Mentioned on the Show: Pre-order my new fitness book now for a chance to win over $12,000 in splendid swag: https://www.muscleforlifebook.com/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, today is the day, my beauts. Today, I am leaping out of the plane with the parachute, and I'm hoping there isn't just raggedy laundry in it. Today, I'm belly-flopping into the old watering hole, and I'm hoping that there isn't a pack of piranhas seething under the surface. Today, all right, fine. I'm just kicking off the big book launch bonanza for my newest fitness book for men and women of all ages and abilities called Muscle for Life, which is releasing on January 11th next year. And it's currently available for pre-order over at www.muscleforlifebook.com. for life book.com. Also, if you pre-order the book now, you will be entered to win over $12,000 in splendid fitness swag that I'm giving away, including a Bowflex bike, a Hypervolt Go, smart fit, adjustable dumbbells, all kinds of Legion goodies, and a lot more. Now, what is this book all about? Well, I have worked with tens of thousands of people over the years, and the biggest struggle for many of them is just getting started. It's
Starting point is 00:01:11 gaining enough momentum to reach the virtuous circle phase where achieving results motivates them to keep going, and then that leads to even better results and so on. And that's especially true of many people I've heard from over the years who are in their 40s and beyond. They often think it's too late to get into great shape, and it's even harder for them to overcome that inertia and find their stride than younger folk. Well, fortunately, research shows that it's never too late. It's never too late to build muscle, lose fat, and get healthy. And in this book, Muscle for Life, I provide a time-proven and science-based blueprint for eating and exercising that can help anyone get from
Starting point is 00:01:56 wherever they are to fit, regardless of their age, regardless of their abilities, and regardless of their circumstances. So again, go over to muscleforlifebook.com and pre-order the book now and make sure to forward your receipt to the email provided on that landing page and you will be entered into the giveaway. And also check out the landing page because you can do other things to easily tend to even 100x your chances of winning the grand prize, which is thousands and thousands of dollars of cool stuff. Again, that is muscleforlifebook.com. Hey there, and welcome to Muscle for Life. I'm Mike Matthews. Thank you for joining me today. If you haven't already, please do take a moment and subscribe to the show in whatever app you are listening to me
Starting point is 00:02:51 in so you don't miss new episodes. And it helps me because it boosts the ranking of the show in the various charts. Now, some people, my favorite people, they listen to most or even all of my podcasts, but my whiz-bang analytics tell me that while many listeners do tune in on a regular basis, they don't catch every installment of the show, and thus they miss out on insights that could help them do at least a little better inside and outside the gym. And that's why I do these best of episodes. These episodes contain a few of the most practical and compelling ideas, tips, and moments from the more popular episodes I've published over the years. And this way you can learn new stuff that you might have otherwise missed and you can find new episodes of the show to listen to. So in this installment of the best of muscle for life,
Starting point is 00:03:46 you are going to be hearing handpicked morsels from three episodes. The first is an interview I did with my buddy, Menno Henselman's on how genetics influence muscle building. The second is a monologue, how to make meal plans that work for any diet. And the third is also a monologue. My top five takeaways from the book Mastery by Robert Green. And we will be starting with number one, of course, Menno Henselman's on how genetics
Starting point is 00:04:12 influence muscle building. Starting with your first question, how much do genetics play? How big is the role of genetics in how much muscle you can gain how strong you can get it's big No to quantify how much? researchers for these kind of questions they often Express something as a hereditary coefficient Which is like the percent it's roughly interpreted as the percentage that your genetics affect your results, okay? So you can think of it as how much your genetics can predict relative to other factors like environmental factors, in this case being your training program, your nutrition, how
Starting point is 00:04:54 well you're sleeping, all of those things. Sure. And here we see that there is a very, very significant influence. We can start with that. is a very very significant influence we can start with that it's so big in fact that in research at least we have people that are deemed non-responders because on any given training program they don't grow any muscle at all or they gain any strength we know that different people react better to different programs we can get into that as well so we have we have these people that at least to that given program they don't respond and other people we have we see rates of increase in those kind of studies of i think two to three fold so
Starting point is 00:05:35 you have people gaining like 250 strength which is huge like um so they're more than doubling their strength level and other people they they don't really gain anything. So we have this huge variance. That is a fact. But if we look at the hereditary coefficient, we see that it's around 50%. And I think for obesity, the most recent estimates are actually closer to 40%. So your genes would explain 40% of who gets obese and who doesn't. And that's actually less, 40% at least, than what we see in most other
Starting point is 00:06:11 research because for people that don't know, I actually came from a background of economics, psychology and statistics. And I made the career switch from business consultant to working as an online coach. And so I'm familiar with a lot of other research areas as well. And I know that in most other areas, 50% is actually deemed normal. So it's actually just seen as a normal average, which is kind of almost seems too coincidental, right? Like you have environmental factors and you have genetic factors and it seems that... Yeah, just there's a balance there.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah, it's about one to one. It's about 50-50. So it seems too coincidental, but it's true for a ton of things, including, for example, your personality. So in that line, you know, like you can get screwed over by your genetics more in terms of strength training that you can get screwed over for your intelligence intelligence or your personality or your height any other such factor so in that line you know it's not that bad but we do just see these huge variants and i think a lot of people may be a bit thinking about it too gloomy because they look at the extreme outliers right they hear about these non-responders and then they think of stories like um the most thing i think that has actually been verified is andy bolton i often use
Starting point is 00:07:31 him as an example in my pt course where as the example of the most extreme outlier because i think he he squatted i think was 500 pounds the first session he was in the gym or something like that yeah with and with a 600 pound that left soon to follow it's actually really straightforward as to why this is why we see more variance for strength than for muscle growth and that is because everything that affects muscle growth basically also affects your strength right Because given any sort of neural level, I often use the analogy of your brain being the driver and your muscles being the race car. So given any level of neural development,
Starting point is 00:08:16 a bigger muscle means more total force production. Or specifically, a scientist would say that a larger cross-sectional area, all else being equal, always increases total potential force output of that muscle tissue. Right. And therefore, we see that we have this variance in muscle growth. How much muscle can you gain? But the variance in strength is even bigger. Because not only we have these morphological factors, as they're called, so factors like muscle size that affect your strength, we also have other morphological factors like biomechanical factors.
Starting point is 00:08:51 For example, the angle at which a muscle inserts on the tendon, even a very minor difference in this angle or a panacea angle of the muscle, for example, which you cannot see at all visually, looking at degrees, and all of this being internal in your body, can make a huge difference because we are talking about these tiny angles that you can have a slight difference in angle that basically doubles the leverage
Starting point is 00:09:20 the muscle has on a particular bone or joint. And that basically means that it also can double the force output. So you can have these two people that have the exact same amount of muscle mass, and they also have the exact same level of neural development, but one of them simply has these insertion points of the muscles and the tendons on bones that make that person a lot more suitable for heavy lifting. So they're actually producing the same amount of internal force. I mean, the muscles are doing the same kind of work,
Starting point is 00:09:51 but it can be a twofold difference in external force output, meaning they can lift twice as much weight while they only have to do half the work. So what do genetics, what's their, how much do they determine how your muscles are going to look? There's, I guess, two parts to that, like how big can individual muscles get? Obviously, with guys, it's a lot of questions about chest and biceps and occasionally calves. And girls don't usually ask about how big certain muscles can get. But these days, it's kind of about butt, I guess, more than anything else.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So I think this is a good segue into that. You can predict. It's actually hard to predict. guess more than more than anything else um so i think this is a good segue into that you can you can predict it's actually hard to predict you can predict it a bit um because you know you cannot change your insertion points the length of uh the muscle at least not visually you can actually change the muscle length but it doesn't make a lot of visual difference because it's it's muscle fascicle length but a muscle is actually going to change shape when you train it and it's inevitable and you can change it to some extent like for example the traps being an obvious part you can emphasize the upper or lower traps to a lesser extent you also have different heads
Starting point is 00:10:56 of the hamstrings for example and a lesser extent still you have the different heads of the two heads of the biceps you can emphasize you get one bigger so you have bigger peaks or you get the other bigger and it's more flat and full. But you cannot really predict that well how it's going to change and to a large extent, especially for a natural bodybuilder where the end goal is just maximum muscle growth in pretty much every muscle group, then to that extent in a very long term perspective it's not really up to your control so there your muscle size is going to shape is going to change as a result of the growth but it's a limited change and one you cannot really do much about
Starting point is 00:11:39 so you have a certain way that you look and either relish it or go cry for the rest of your life because based on the very limited research we have we know that different muscle groups can have exceedingly different genetic potential and again based on the very limited research that we have I'm not really convinced of this but at least in animals it suggests that there is in fact almost no relation between different muscle groups and their genetic potential now i'm pretty sure that there are certain genetic factors um also some that we know of certain genes that you have certain systemic factors like how much testosterone
Starting point is 00:12:20 you have being very common although actually actually overweighted one. And these determine muscle, muscular potential for your whole body. But in principle, some core components like how many satellite cells you have, how much myonuclear addition can take place, these very internal components of the muscle tissue itself that you cannot see and vary in each different muscle group, they are very very very influential for how much muscle can be built and they can vary a lot in different regions of your body right so you commonly see individuals that have like uh strong points and weak points for some people it's quite pronounced
Starting point is 00:12:57 other peoples are more like in between everywhere and you know what you don't really see and this is actually a good example of that where i say i think this is a limited research that we have like some people take it to extreme then they say well there's there's no relation because that's what the research says but how often do you see an individual you know that has like truly really impressive upper body or pecs and just no biceps for example right it Right. It doesn't happen. No. So, you know, there is a correlation there.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It's just, it's obvious. But yeah, you definitely have strong points and weak points. All right. Well, that's it for the highlight reel for the episode that I did with Menno Henselmans on how genetics influence muscle building. And if you want to listen to the whole episode, it was originally published in January of 2017. So you can go back and find it. Now let's move on to the takeaways from how to make meal plans that work for any diet. And let's start with how meal planning can save you from quote unquoteunquote dieting because fad diets all have one thing in common. They have this
Starting point is 00:14:06 assertion that theirs is the one true way. The paleo hordes say that you must follow the calls of your ancient cave-dwelling ancestors and the anti-carb crusaders insist that you subject yourself to trial by ketogenic dieting and the quacks out there swear by cleanses and detoxes and biohacking and other nonsense. And unfortunately, this can result in your squandering months and even years of time wandering in this swamp, defecting from one school of dieting to another, with not much to show for it in the end, in terms of what you see in the mirror and what you've got in the gym. On you'll go, though, certain that the one true diet is out there somewhere, patiently waiting for your arrival, or the next new fad is going to be the one the scientists have finally cracked the code. And I have good news and bad news regarding this. Let's start with the bad.
Starting point is 00:15:13 The bad is there is no one true diet. There never will be. There are no real shortcuts to losing fat and building muscle. The secret they're not telling you about dieting is that it's pretty boring. Actually, it lacks the sizzle that's needed to sell pills, powders, PDFs, and the rest. But there's good news too. And it is this. It is that the truth is very simple and it's very workable. It works for everyone. It works every time. It's like the quote that is often attributed to Thomas Edison, but I don't think we know who said it. It is that opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks
Starting point is 00:15:55 like work. Yeah, dieting is like that. The suckers want glitz and they want glamour, but the real opportunity to build the body of your dreams is frayed denim and a rust-bitten toolkit. Now, here's how it breaks down in terms of importance. The most important aspect is the energy balance that we spoke about, then macronutrient balance, which is how the calories break down into protein, carbs, and fats, and then we have food choices, and then we have nutrient timing. So nutrient timing when you eat is the least important. Food choices is not as important as macronutrients and energy balance. Now, when we look at food
Starting point is 00:16:36 intake solely through the lens of energy balance and weight change, a calorie is a calorie. If you eat too many calories for long enough, you will gain weight. If you eat fewer calories than you're burning, if you restrict your calories for long enough, you will lose weight, period. There is more to consider though, because as I mentioned earlier, we do not want to manipulate our weight so much as our body composition and particularly our body fat percentage. In other words, we want to lose fat and not muscle. And when we are lean bulking, we want to gain as much muscle as possible and as little fat as possible. And when those are the goals, we have to consider more than just calories. Because if we eat too little protein, we will forever struggle to gain and preserve muscle. If we eat too little carbohydrate, we are going to
Starting point is 00:17:21 make it harder to gain muscle and strength and to make progress in our workouts. And if we eat too much fat, we're going to have to dramatically reduce protein or carb intake to compensate. Now, if we get our macronutrient balance right, though, everything comes together. Then we can gain muscle and lose fat with ease. We will have high energy workouts. We won't have any major issues with hunger or cravings. It really makes a huge difference. It makes the experience of getting and staying fit much more enjoyable and much easier, really. It really is the closest thing you can find to dietary magic. All right, so now let's talk about how to create meal plans for losing weight because you now have the basic theory under your belt. It's time to put some rubber on the road. And I want to start with weight loss because that is on more people's minds
Starting point is 00:18:21 than weight gain. So as you know, the key to losing fat is maintaining a calorie deficit over time. So the first step is working out how many calories you should be eating. And that first means that you need to work out approximately how many calories you are burning every day. Now, I did recently record a podcast on this. So if you want to dive into the details of how to determine this, then listen to that podcast. If you want to just go straight to a calculator that'll just do the math for you, make it nice and easy, Google Legion Athletics diet meal plans, and you'll find an article that this podcast is based on. And in that article, there is a calculator that just does the math
Starting point is 00:19:00 for you. And the resulting number from the calculator is a fairly accurate measurement of the total amount of energy your body is burning every day. And this is generally known as your total daily energy expenditure or TDEE. And what that means is if you ate that amount of calories every day, your weight would more or less remain the same. Sure, it would fluctuate slightly up and down over time, but more or less the average would remain the same. And that means then to reduce your weight, you're going to have to eat less than that number. How much less though? Well, I recommend a moderately aggressive calorie deficit of about 20%, maybe as high as 25%. Anything larger than that can cause unwanted side effects associated with starvation dieting. So what this means then is you want to set your daily calorie intake to somewhere around 75 to 80% of your total daily
Starting point is 00:19:52 energy expenditure. And for example, my total daily energy expenditure hovers around 3000 calories. So when I want to lose weight, I set my intake to about 2,300 calories. That's usually where I start. Once you have your calories worked out, the next thing is your macronutrients. It's time to turn those calories into protein, carbs, and fat targets. And here's an easy way to do it. I want you to eat 1 to 1.2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day. And if you are very overweight, so if you're a guy over, let's say 25% body fat or a woman over 35% body fat, modify that to 40% of your daily
Starting point is 00:20:35 calories. I want 40% of your daily calories to come from protein. And to calculate that, all you do is multiply your total daily calories that you have to eat by 0.4 and then divide that by four. That number is your target for protein. And you can just round it up or down so it's easy. If it's 173, you don't have to go for 173, just go for 170. And the reason why that works is there are about four calories in a gram of protein. Okay, next, I want you to eat about 0.3 grams of fat per pound of body weight per day. And again, if you are very overweight, you can simply modify that to about 25% of your daily calories should be coming from dietary fat. To calculate that, simply multiply your total daily calorie target by 0.25 and then
Starting point is 00:21:26 divide it by nine. That resulting number will be your fat target for the day in grams. And the reason why that works is a gram of fat has about nine calories. And then get the rest of your calories from carbs. Once you have your numbers, it is time to turn those numbers into a meal plan that you will actually enjoy. And to do that, you can start by just making a list of foods that you would like to eat every day, and then head over to Calorie King to learn their macronutrient profiles. And many people like to use Excel for this, listing the foods and their protein, carb, fat, and calorie numbers in side-by-side columns. And then you just need to start piecing together meals using those foods until you're happy with the setup and until you're within,
Starting point is 00:22:12 let's say, 50 calories of your daily intake target if you're cutting and 100 if you're lean bulking or maintaining. And if you want to see some examples of these types of meal plans, again, just Google Legion Athletics meal plans or diet meal plans. You'll find an article that this podcast is based on, and it has some examples of meal plans. So once you've made your plan, you now just stick to it every day. And then if along the way you get tired of certain foods or meals, you simply replace those foods or meals with other things that you would like to eat that fit your numbers. It really is that simple. And that's it for the featured snippets from how to make meal plans that work for any diet. If you want to listen to the whole monologue, it was published in May of
Starting point is 00:23:01 2019. And now let's move on to the final episode featured in this episode, which is my top five takeaways from the book Mastery by Robert Greene. This is one of my absolute all-time favorite success slash self-development books and one that I regularly gift and recommend to others because I attribute much of my own success in my work and business and other areas of my life to the lessons found in mastery. Lessons that I believe can transform anyone's life for the better if they are truly taken to heart. Now, the premise of this book is very simple. It is that any one of us can become an elite performer in a skill or field if we simply embrace and embody
Starting point is 00:23:46 the established attitudes and behaviors that have produced past and current champions. And more importantly, that every one of us should strive toward greatness if we want to lead fulfilling lives. All right, let's get to my takeaways. Here is the first one. People who do not practice and learn new skills never gain a proper sense of proportion or self-criticism. They think they can achieve anything without effort and have little contact with reality. Trying something over and over again grounds you in reality, making you deeply aware of your inadequacies and of what you can accomplish with more work and effort. And my note here is that confidence is definitely important, but if it's not based on a realistic appraisal of who we are and what we can do,
Starting point is 00:24:32 it's really nothing more than smugness and delusion. Self-esteem is a very hot topic these days and especially in the fitness space. And you know, that's something I don't think that we can just conjure up in ourselves by thinking the right thoughts or saying the right words. And we can't give it to others through coddling or osmosis. Really the only way any of us, young or old, can develop self-esteem is by working hard at things that we can't do until we can do them and then repeating the process. Next takeaway, mastery is not a function of genius or talent. It is a function of time and intense focus applied to a particular field of knowledge. And my note here is that many people mistakenly think that masters have relied
Starting point is 00:25:19 mainly on inborn talent and genius to produce extraordinary works, but this couldn't be further from the truth. As Green illustrates in this book, and as is illustrated by modern scientific research, there is actually very little connection between natural aptitude and mastery. The reality is, with enough deep or deliberate practice, even the most modest beginner can become a virtuoso. Okay, takeaway number four. Too many people believe that everything must be pleasurable in life, which makes them constantly search for distractions and short circuits the learning process. The pain is a kind of challenge your mind presents. Will you learn how to focus and move past the boredom? Or like a child,
Starting point is 00:26:02 will you succumb to the need for immediate pleasure and distraction? Much as with physical exercise, you can even get a kind of perverse pleasure out of this pain, knowing the benefits it will bring you. In any event, you must meet any boredom head-on and try not to avoid or repress it. Throughout your life, you will encounter tedious situations and you must cultivate the ability to handle them with discipline. And my note here is that our culture no longer promotes the development of discipline through seeking out challenging situations, enduring the initial wave of confusion, frustration, and boredom that they produce, and then continually sacrificing our present lives for the benefit of our future lives. Instead, we actively avoid whatever is difficult and uncomfortable. We decry life's
Starting point is 00:26:53 challenges as unfair and people's criticisms as hurtful. And even our self-help books speak in soft tones, telling us what we want to hear instead of showing us starkly how far we still have to go if we're going to have any hope of living a good life. So the fifth and final takeaway is if you're doing something primarily for money and without a real emotional commitment, it will translate into something that lacks a soul and that has no connection to you. You may not see this, but you can be sure that the public will feel it and that they will receive your work in the same lackluster spirit it was created in. And my note here is that every line of work has its share of drudgery. Mine does,
Starting point is 00:27:37 yours does, everybody's does. But if you can't get fired up about the essence of your work, the writing, the programming, the selling, the personal training, whatever it is that you're doing, it's going to show in the details. The best work in every field is always produced by the people that are absolutely obsessed with their crafts. There certainly are things about their work that they are not obsessed with and they would rather not have to do, but do because it just has to be done. But there's something about their work that they are obsessed with. And I also think that every one of us can find something, something we can do, something valuable that we can do,
Starting point is 00:28:17 that we can be obsessed with as well. And that's it for a few of my favorite talking points from my top five takeaways from the book Mastery by Robert Greene. If you want to listen to that whole episode, it was published back in September of 2017. Well, I hope you liked this episode. I hope you found it helpful. And if you did, subscribe to the show because it makes sure that you don't miss new episodes. And it also helps me because it increases the rankings of the show a little bit, which, of course, then makes it a little bit more easily found by other people who may like it just as much as you. general, or if you have ideas or suggestions or just feedback to share, shoot me an email, mike at muscleforlife.com, muscleforlife.com, and let me know what I could do better or just what your thoughts are about maybe what you'd like to see me do in the future. I read everything myself. I'm always looking for new ideas and constructive feedback. So thanks again for listening to this episode
Starting point is 00:29:25 and I hope to hear from you soon.

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