Muscle for Life with Mike Matthews - The Complete Guide to L-Citrulline Supplementation
Episode Date: March 18, 2020Look at most popular pre-workout supplements and you’ll find they have several ingredients common. L-citrulline is one of them. Its name comes from citrullus, the Latin word for watermelon, which is... a natural source of it. Other food sources include peanuts, soybeans, and kidney beans. Most supplements aren’t all that special and can’t live up to the hype, but, as you’ll see, L-citrulline is one of the proven winners. And in this podcast, we’re going to answer all your questions: - What is L-citrulline? - What are its benefits and side effects? - How much do you have to take to see results? - What’s the best way to supplement with it? - And more… Let’s start at the top. 9:57 - How did citrulline get its name? 10:27 - What is l-citrulline? 11:40 - Why do people supplement with l-citrulline? 14:09 - What are the benefits of supplementing with l-citrulline? 19:24 - How much l-citrulline do I need to take to get the benefits? 23:24 - How do I get l-citrulline? --- Mentioned on The Show: Shop Legion Supplements Here: https://legionathletics.com/shop/ --- Want to get my best advice on how to gain muscle and strength and lose fat faster? Sign up for my free newsletter! Click here: https://www.legionathletics.com/signup/
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Hello, hello. Welcome to Muscle for Life, a new episode. I'm Mike Matthews, and I am
corona-free as of Monday, March 16th. Wear some wood. There we go. And I hope you are too,
and I hope it remains that. And it probably will. We will probably be okay if we follow
the simple recommendations of staying calm,
but taking reasonable precautions, including social distancing, washing our hands frequently,
avoiding touching our eyes, nose, and mouth, practicing good respiratory hygiene. So,
you know, covering your mouth and your nose with a bent elbow or a tissue if you cough or if you
sneeze and then throwing the tissue away right away. And seeking medical care early in the case of fever, cough, or difficulty breathing.
And one other little bit of housekeeping before we get to the topic at hand, which is L-citrulline,
that's what we're going to be talking about mostly in today's episode. I want to talk quickly about
an email that I sent out last Friday announcing Legion's new product,
which is an immune support product. Timing is funny, I know, and I made a joke about the timing
in the email. And every so often, I get the opportunity to look back on something that I've
said or done and go, wow, dumb. Well, this is one of those moments. You see, I sent out that email
Friday about this new product called Immune, and it was tone deaf, I think is a good word.
You know, it was exactly the type of email that I am want to write. It was freewheeling and
flippant. And that was exactly the problem given the gravity of the global situation.
And so while many people liked the email and thought the copy was funny,
some people were rubbed the wrong way and it went against the grain for them.
And I understand.
You know, to them, it looked like maybe I was making light of the pandemic in general
and the people who are
suffering and dying. And what's more, because the email was to promote a new product that
supports immune function, it also looked kind of like a shameless, shameful attempt to maybe
cash in on the crisis. And I do understand those reactions. There weren't many, but there were a few. And especially from people who have recently entered my orbit and don't really know me and
don't know if they should trust me or not. So this is a mea culpa. Now, this type of optic gaffe is
obvious in hindsight now that I look back on it, but it wasn't just a few days ago before I hit the
send button on that email because I was only looking at the situation through my eyes, which
don't see an approaching Armageddon. Now, I also spend very little time in social media. I don't
watch the news and I'm mostly surrounded by people who feel the same as I do. And so I just didn't
realize how worried many people are about what's happening.
Now, if I would have had the whole picture last week, my email would have been very different.
It's also worth quickly clarifying a few things based on the discussions that I've had with some
of my followers over the last few days. So one, this product is called Immune, has actually been
nine months in the making, and it was delayed by my manufacturer for two months. So the timing here is complete coincidence, not an attempt to
wring a few bucks out of a global crisis. Two, the financial implications of this product launch
are completely irrelevant to the business. I mean, I have a couple thousand bottles of Immune and I sell
over 50,000 bottles of product per month. It barely even registers, honestly. Three, I really
do believe releasing Immune now is better than after COVID-19 has passed because it may help
some people not get infected and recover faster if they do. Now that is pure speculation, of course,
but I do think it's a reasonable statement given the evidence of the effectiveness of the
ingredients with other viral infections. And if you want to read for yourself how it works,
and if you want to look at that evidence, just go over to legionathletics.com and go to our store,
click on immune, and then go down to the FAQ all the way at the bottom of the product page. And you'll see the first question is something
along the lines of, will immune help me fight COVID-19? And I explain why I and others on my
scientific advisory board, not just me, why we believe that it may help. It's not a cure. It is not guaranteed to prevent anything from
happening at all. But given what we know about how some of these ingredients have worked with
other viruses, they may help with COVID-19 as well. Furthermore, let's not forget that there
are many other obnoxious bugs out there that are going around, aside from COVID-19. And the ingredients in Immune
have been proven effective against many of those. That's the reason we made the product in the first
place. Fourth, and finally, I didn't realize that the term immune booster is really stigmatized,
whereas immune support is more acceptable. Now, what's funny about this is that's the case
regardless of whether something boosts the immune system or not. So for instance, the available
evidence suggests that eating a clove or two of raw garlic every day will literally boost your
immune system. I'm talking about the dictionary definition to help improve or help increase or
help enhance. But some experts would vehemently deny this,
and they would insist that garlic can only assist or support the immune system. Now, why is this?
I think the primary reason is the immune boosting well has been poisoned by scammers who are selling vitamin C and lysine pills,
selling stuff that isn't going to do much of anything, not to mention what they're claiming.
And so anything that claims to boost the immune system is automatically discarded as fake news,
kind of like detoxing, right? Semantics. Semantics are fun. So anyway, I just wanted to get this message out there on
the podcast for anyone who saw the email and maybe didn't like it. Not enough to reply to me,
but at least thought that it was in poor taste. I do understand. And I actually sent a follow-up
email explaining what I've just explained here.
But again, email can be finicky. Sometimes emails make it through filters. Sometimes they don't.
All right. That is it for Immune and COVID-19. And one other COVID-19 thing that is a bit of
good news is over at Legion Athletics blog. This week, I'm going to say
probably Wednesday or Thursday, latest Friday, we are going to be publishing an in-depth article on
working out from home. And it's going to talk about body weight exercises that we can do,
stuff we can do with dumbbells and kettlebells and bands, of course many gyms are closed and many more are closing.
And it also is probably smart to not go to the gym right now, even if your gym is open,
but we don't want to stop working out. Well, we don't have to. And we actually can get some
pretty good workouts in just using our body and using kettlebells and dumbbells and bands as well,
if we have them available. So again, that'll be coming
this week over at Legion's blog. And by the time this goes up, it may already be live,
but I have to see exactly when we're going to be publishing this episode. Again, it's
Monday, March 16th now. And I think by Wednesday or Friday, the article will go live and I'll
probably do a podcast on it as well, just to get the information out there more broadly.
All right, let's shift
gears, shall we? And talk supplementation. Let's talk about L-citrulline, which is one of the most
popular ingredients in pre-workout supplements these days. And I like to think that I and
everyone here at Legion had something to do with that because back when I started the company in
2014 and launched with a couple of products, including our pre-workout pulse,
it had and still has eight grams of citrulline malate per serving. And at the time, that was
very unique. One, you didn't find citrulline malate in too many pre-workouts at the time.
And two, you definitely did not find it in that dose, which is the proper dose. You might find
two grams per serving, but definitely not eight. I think the most I remember seeing back then was
four grams per serving. And so if you wanted to get more, you had to take more than one serving
per session, which also meant getting a lot more caffeine than I wanted at least. And these days though, again, you see
citrulline in a lot of pre-workouts. It still is often underdosed, but you do see some six grams
per serving doses out there, which is not bad. Eight grams is a bit better, which is why I use
eight grams. But anyway, as citrulline is getting more and more popular and more and more people are
hearing about it and wondering how effective it really is and how much you should be taking, I thought it would make
sense to record an episode on this individual ingredient, kind of like what I did with beta
alanine a couple of months ago. And I get asked about supplementation quite often and I own a
supplement company, but I don't produce much podcast content on
supplementation, ironically. So I think it would make sense to produce a bit more content on
supplementation, particularly a bit more podcast content. I've written a lot more about supplementation
than I have recorded. All right, citrulline. Let's start with the name. Why citrulline? Well,
it comes from the Latin word for watermelon,
citrullus, and that's because that's the natural source of citrulline. There are other food
sources though that include peanuts, soybeans, and kidney beans. And while most supplements are
not very special, can't live up to the hype, L-citrulline is one of the proven winners. That
is the weight of the
evidence currently. And that's what we're talking about in this podcast. So let's start with what
is it? L-citrulline is a non-essential amino acid. And that means that you don't necessarily
have to get it from foods because your body can produce it as needed, at least as far as
general health goes and general function.
And essential amino acids, on the other hand, must be obtained from your diet because the body
doesn't have any way to synthesize them to produce them. And in case you're wondering
why the L on the front of it, that just refers to the structure of the amino acid and it denotes
that it can be used to create proteins. There's another
type of amino acid, which is the D form, D with a little hyphen. And those types of amino acids
are found in cells, but not in proteins. Now, physiologically speaking, L-citrulline plays
a vital role in the urea cycle, which is the process whereby your body eliminates toxic byproducts of digesting
protein and generating cellular energy. And in case you're wondering, it's called the urea cycle
because the waste products are converted into a substance called urea, which is then expelled
from the body through urine and sweat. Now, why do people supplement with L-citrulline? Why is it popular?
Well, the main reasons why people supplement with it are improving heart health, blood flow,
and endurance, and boosting muscle growth and post-workout recovery. Now, this is why
L-citrulline is particularly popular among athletes of all types, not just weightlifters.
And it's also often chosen over
another well-known molecule that is involved in the urea cycle, L-arginine. Now this too is a very
popular supplement, less popular now that L-citrulline has gotten more and more attention.
And there's a good reason for that. You see, L-arginine is often sold as a nitric oxide booster. That's probably what you know it as if you have
heard of it. And I remember first hearing about it all the way back. This was a while ago. Remember
that supplement NO2? It was sold as a muscle growth and pump enhancer. And the main ingredient,
if not the only ingredient, I don't remember exactly, but the main ingredient was a form of arginine. Now, the problem with arginine is research shows
that it can work, it can raise nitric oxide levels, but it's also very unreliable. So studies
have shown that it works for some people and then doesn't work at all for others. And that means
that really the best that can be said about arginine is if you
take enough, six to 10 grams or so, it may or may not help you get more out of your workouts. And
if you're not familiar with nitric oxide, by the way, it's just a gas that's produced by the body
that widens blood vessels and improves blood flow. And that can enhance workout performance
and workout pumps. Now, this little fact about arginine explains
why most nitric oxide supplements are very hit and miss, and they always have been.
Some people experience a big increase in pump and notice better workouts, and some people notice
absolutely nothing. Now, L-citrulline is interesting because research shows that it is absorbed better
than L-arginine and it turns into it in the body. And that process actually results in larger and
longer elevations of arginine levels in the blood than supplementation with L-arginine itself.
L-citrulline also elevates plasma blood levels of another amino acid called
ornithine, which is also involved in the urea cycle. So let's get into some of these specific
benefits that you can get from supplementing with L-citrulline. So one is it does improve
physical performance. So research shows that supplementing with L-citrulline can improve
both your resistance and your endurance training, which is pretty neat.
So, for example, in one study that was conducted with resistance-trained men, supplementing with 8 grams of L-citrulline before their chest workouts increased the number of reps they could do by 52% on average.
And it also significantly decreased post-workout muscle soreness.
And in another study, six grams of L-citrulline per day increased cellular energy production
during exercise by 34% on average. And that, of course, increases your capacity for physical
output and intensity. It's on you to do it, but you'll have more in the tank. You'll have more to give to your workouts. All right. Another proven benefit of L-citrulline has to do with
heart health because of the effects that it has on blood flow. So your arteries are the blood
vessels that convey oxygenated blood throughout the body, and they naturally contract and expand to control
blood pressure. And it's vital that they retain their ability to do this because if they get too
stiff and rigid, or even worse, if they get blocked, that's how you can have a heart attack
or a stroke. Now, as nitric oxide plays a key role in maintaining arterial health and function,
anything that boosts NO levels can help
keep our arteries working the way that they should. And so studies show that L-citrulline can do just
that because it does raise nitric oxide levels. It also can help keep our arteries functioning
properly. Furthermore, L-citrulline has also been shown to reduce blood pressure, which is another key factor in overall heart health. Moving down the list to the next benefit,
ED. Yes, L-citrulline can help with boners because it can influence blood flow. So research shows
that yes, it can give guys harder hard-ons, the technical term. Now, it's not going to be as effective as ED drugs, but it also has
none of the potential side effects. It's simply an amino acid. And even if you don't have ED,
what many men report is harder erections when they are taking L-citrulline every day.
Another benefit of L-citrulline is it reduces free radical damage
in the body. Now, what does that mean exactly? Well, free radicals are atoms or groups of atoms
that can cause damage to cells in the body through various chemical reactions. And that may sound
wholly bad, but it's not actually. Free radicals are essential components of certain basic physiological processes that are
necessary for us to stay alive. However, having excessive amounts of free radicals is associated
with aging and age-dependent diseases like cardiovascular disease, cancer, neurodegenerative
disorders, and other chronic conditions. Now, everyday living inevitably
results in the production of free radicals and intense exercise spikes production as well
because it places the body under a lot of stress. And L-citrulline can help with this because
studies show that it helps your body better deal with the exercise-induced uptick in free radical production by priming
immune cells and reducing the number of free radicals that are produced while we are working
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Now let's talk about dosing. How much do you have to take to get those benefits? And the first thing
you need to understand here is there are two widely available forms that you can choose from,
L-citrulline and citrulline malate. And the only difference between them is citrulline malate is
L-citrulline combined with malic acid, difference between them is citrulline malate is L-citrulline
combined with malic acid, which is a natural substance found in many fruits that's involved
in the creation of cellular energy in the body. Now, there isn't much human research available
on the potential benefits of supplementing with malic acid, but it has been shown to improve
endurance in the animal model. And there's also evidence
that when it's combined with magnesium, it can help treat fibromyalgia and it may also offer
cardiovascular benefits as well. But again, we need more high quality human research to know
if it is indeed worth supplementing with. Now that said, I myself prefer and I recommend citrulline malate over L-citrulline because
I do think it's likely that malic acid confers additional health and performance benefits on top
of what L-citrulline has to offer. Again, the evidence isn't there yet, but there is good
preliminary evidence. And citrulline malate is also the form that has been used in most studies demonstrating the
performance benefits associated with L-citrulline. And I like to use exactly what's used in the
research because again, the malic acid may be contributing to the effects seen. There's also
no downside to citrulline malate. It's just likely superior to L-citrulline, at least for the purpose
of having better workouts. And that's the main reason why I'm using it every day. And I'm not going to lie,
the BDE effect is kind of cool. It makes you feel like a true alpha male. Anyway, for the dosing,
if you're going to be taking citrulline, whether it's L-citrulline or citrulline malate for non
exercise related benefits, go with three grams of L-citrulline or five to six grams of citrulline malate per day.
And if you want to take it to improve exercise performance, then you want to take three to five
grams of L-citrulline or six to eight grams of citrulline malate per day. And the reason why you
need to take more if you are taking citrulline malate is it also has the malic acid. And there
are different forms out there that have different ratios.
Like for example, some citrulline malates have a one-to-one ratio. So if you take eight grams,
you're getting four grams of L-citrulline and four grams of malic acid. And then you can also
get a two-to-one citrulline malate, which is two parts L-citrulline and one part malic acid,
which is what I prefer because we are trying to supplement with L-citrulline and one part malic acid, which is what I prefer because we are trying to supplement
with L-citrulline after all, not malic acid. And it's also the standard form used in most of the
research demonstrating most of the benefits. And you could get the same benefits from a one-to-one,
but you would have to then increase the dosing accordingly because eight grams of a two-to-one
is not the same as eight grams of a one-to-one is not the same as eight
grams of a one-to-one. All right. So let's say you start taking six or eight grams of a two-to-one
citrulline malate every day. What can you expect from that? You can expect improved circulation.
You can expect bigger pumps in the gym. You can expect a bit more muscle endurance in your
workouts and probably a bit more energy as well,
less fatigue and possibly less muscle soreness after workouts as well.
Side effects. Are there any side effects?
The great news is there have been no reported side effects of supplementing with L-citrulline
since it was discovered all the way back in 1930.
And even at high doses.
That said, it is known to interact adversely with certain medications,
including nitrates and drugs for erectile dysfunction. So if you are on either of those
types of medications, make sure to check with your doctor first and do the same if you're pregnant or
breastfeeding or have any other reason to wonder, is this for me because of some medical condition?
All right, now let's talk about actually getting the L-citrulline, the supplements themselves. Now,
as I've said a number of times, as you probably know and have seen, it's often found in pre-workout
supplements. Now you know why. And so when you are evaluating a pre-workout, keep in mind that
if it contains less than six grams of citrulline malate per serving and only
calls for one serving per day, it is underdosed. Don't buy it. You want to see six to eight grams
per serving and the closer to eight grams, the better. Again, my pre-workout poll says eight
grams per serving, and you want to see a two to one citrulline malate. That's important. Not a
one to one. You also want to stay away from proprietary blends, which would
happen naturally if you're trying to look into how much citrulline malate is in each serving,
because you wouldn't know. Now, if you're not familiar with a proprietary blend, it's simply
a collection of ingredients. And because of labeling laws, the supplement company doesn't
have to tell you how much of each ingredient is in this blend,
in this collection. It just has to tell you the weight of the overall blend. So you might have a
muscle pump matrix that weighs, let's say 15 grams, that has 15 grams of actives in it. And then you
look at the actives and L-citrulline or citrulline malate may be on the list along with other
ingredients, but what you won't see is how much. You only know
how much the blend weighs. You don't know how much they've put of each ingredient. And this is
simply a way for supplement companies to hide their underdosing from you. There is no proprietary
information behind these formulations or trade secrets. The research on any and all of the
ingredients in any of these products is publicly available. So if I were to see some ingredient
that I wasn't familiar with and I wanted to know if it's a good ingredient or not, and it is in a
proprietary blend, all I have to do is go look at the research on the ingredient. I don't need to
know what their dosing is. I can go look at the research myself. And if I want to use the ingredient, I can just
go with the dose in the research, the clinically effective dose. And one other little thing that
you should know about the proprietary blend is the ingredients are in the order of most to least. So if a blend weighs, let's say,
15 grams and has five ingredients, many people assume that it is three grams per ingredient,
but that's not necessarily the case. It could have 14 grams of the first ingredient, and then
it could have 250 milligrams of the remaining
four ingredients for a total of 15 grams. And that's important because often what you will
find with proprietary blends is the first ingredient or two or three in these blends
are cheap. And sometimes these blends have 10 or 15 ingredients because it makes for an impressive
label. You look at that blend and you think there's all this stuff in it, but really what it is, is it's 80 to 90% of the first couple
ingredients out of let's say 10. And there are tiny amounts pixie dusted in of everything else
simply so they can put them on the label. That is the proprietary blend game. Any supplement
company using proprietary blends is only using it
for that reason. They're trying to hide the dosing. Okay. So getting back on track here
with our citrulline discussion, you can get it in a pre-workout. I recommend mine, of course,
Pulse, or you can buy it in bulk, like on Amazon from think, what is it? Bulk supplements or bulk
powders or something like that. You can get citrulline malate and you can just measure out eight grams per day. It doesn't taste very good
though, I'm going to warn you. And you may be able to find pills too. I'm not sure. I haven't looked
in a while if there are citrulline pills. Mostly what I've seen are powders. So the bottom line
here is L-citrulline is one of the more popular workout performance and pre-workout ingredients these
days. And for good reason, studies clearly show that it can help you have better workouts. It
can help you recover faster, at least reduce muscle soreness. So you can train a bit more
frequently or get in a bit more weekly volume. And it can also support your heart health and
it can make your dick work better. So I do recommend it. Six to eight grams
of citrulline malate per day, two to one ratio citrulline to malic acid, and you're off to the
races. All right. Well, that's it for today's episode. I hope you found it interesting and
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