My Brother, My Brother And Me - MBMBaM 528: The War With Grandpa Watch

Episode Date: September 21, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The McElroy brothers are not experts, and their advice should never be followed. Travis insists he's a sexpert, but if there's a degree on his wall, I haven't seen it. Also, this show isn't for kids, which I mentioned only so the babies out there will know how cool they are for listening. What's up, you cool baby? Hello everybody and welcome to My Brother, My Brother Me, an advice show for the modern era. I'm your oldest brother, Justin McElroy. Let me check my show notes right here. Yes, it says I'm your middle-is-brother, Travis McElroy. I'm Griffin. I don't need show notes. I got my name from my mommy and daddy at birth,
Starting point is 00:01:02 and that's the one I've stuck with using, so I don't need to show notes like Travis did. Justin, did you have an intro? You kind of just barreled into this. Yeah, we'd barely finished syncing up our count, and yours was like, I don't know. What's that mean? Where are we? What's happening? Set the scene. It's just I'm looking at the movie release calendar, and I'm just pretty excited about all the upcoming releases we got coming to movie theaters. I mean, is this a watch watch? Are we watching now? It's watching for the future watches. We're watching the washroom.
Starting point is 00:01:32 What's the slate look like ahead of us? I want to talk about the upcoming slate in the context of this. Cool. Will people risk it getting COVID-19 to go see it? First up, War with Grandpa. Tell me about War with Grandpa. Oh, wait, can I guess? I'm just going to guess. Is Johnny Knox feeling it? No, you're thinking of Bad Grandpa. This is not a sequel.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Although, if I'm going to go to War with Grandpa, it's going to be a bad one. Yeah, right? I'd feel terrible going to War with a nice grandpa. Is this in the Fokker's verse? All right, question. Robert De Niro is Ed. He did one with that Zac Efron, right? Where he was a bad grandpa. Yes, but in this one, he's a bad grandpa who's going to War with, let's see, the tagline for this one is,
Starting point is 00:02:19 old school versus new cool. And there's a guy. Oh, God, should I say it again? Old school versus new cool. Oh, fuck yeah. Hey, I'm sorry. I'm pretty sure. I realize there are different movies in reality, but I'm pretty sure that could also have been the tagline
Starting point is 00:02:40 for the Robert De Niro Zac Efron movie. Or grumpy old men, or grumpier old men, or road dogs. Or me, the Fokkers? Or wild dogs. Wait, was Fokker especially cool? You could use it for Fokkers. You could use it for Camp Nowhere. You could use it.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Here's the thing, because I'm all, and I'm so glad this tagline's out there enticing people with this fucking Piper Siren song into these COVID-filled theaters that they finally popularized the phrase new cool. I'm saying that on the regular. I'm always saying like, oh, did you check out this guy on Instagram, his new, his board shorts? That's the new cool, baby!
Starting point is 00:03:22 What happened to Robert De Niro, do you think that he went from like, you know, in Oscar-winning movies, and I assume he has won an Oscar, I don't know for sure, to then just like, from now on, I'm gonna play the grandpa. I'm just gonna play, but not even the grandpa in Oscar contender movies,
Starting point is 00:03:40 but I'm gonna play him in like college comedies where maybe there's like a spring break scene or the whole movie spring break. That's me. That's Robert De Niro now. None of what you're saying makes any difference whatsoever, because I'm gonna talk about Oaks-Fegley. What?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Oaks-Fegley, I'm not interested yet. Oaks-Fegley. Is that the name of a movie or a person or a place? Oaks-Fegley is going to war with grandpa. Wait, it's a person? You may remember him from some previous rules, like boy, Paul, young Brian. I love young Brian.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Young Brian's funny. I'm literally just reading, this is his credits, you ready? This is just names. Boy, Michael, Paul, young Judd, young Elias Thompson, young Brian, Pete, Ben, Boy, Lil Josh, young Theo Decker, Peter, Jeffrey, Tommy Callahan, war with grandpa who's playing Peter
Starting point is 00:04:34 and Pete's dragon and played Pete, so I don't know if we're gonna see one of Pete versus. Oh, maybe this is the verse that we're taking part in. Peter versus Falker versus Crossover film. Do you guys see that Pete's dragon movie, by the way? No. First 30 seconds total party kill. They just, like, aside from Pete,
Starting point is 00:04:53 Pete lives, but they show you the car accident that takes away his parents. Okay, that's, it's a super cool Batman-esque move that shows you how Pete became the Dark Knights. That's unfortunate, but Pete's getting his revenge in this one because he's going to war with grandpa. Oh no, my parents died in the car accident. Now it's time to kill my grandpa.
Starting point is 00:05:14 His parents are very much alive. Oh, this is a prequel. The second tagline of this one, it says, Old School versus New Cool. Oh, fuck, baby. I got chills again, man. The war with grandpa. There's another tagline.
Starting point is 00:05:32 There's another tagline. Oh, I thought you were saying that was the second tagline, too, as if to say, like, did you hear that the first time? How good is this? The second tagline is a comedy for the whole family. Huh, fucking good. Yeah, fucking good. And then the third tagline by Justin Macquarie
Starting point is 00:05:48 is fucking everybody slumming it in this one because you've got Uma Thurman. Oh, boy. To Rob Riggle as the parents of Peter who have given away Peter's room to Robert De Niro, the Salty Ed. It's going to war. He's going to war with this kid.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Man, for a second, I was kind of hoping that it was literal. I'm saying it's starting to shape up like a home alone kind of war where it probably pranks and such. But I wanted it to be like maybe Robert De Niro's character led, was the dictator of one country and a young boy, ascended to the throne of another country and he had to go to war with his own grandfather
Starting point is 00:06:29 and it was a very touching Oscar-baked piece. Well, Dennis the Menace sort of, there's a super precedent established by Dennis the Menace who did perpetrate war crimes on poor old Walter Matthow or at least actor who looked a lot like Walter Matthow. No, it was Walter Matthow and sometimes I think about that scene
Starting point is 00:06:45 where he puts chicklets in as his fake front teeth. That would get really sad. That's the new cool. That's the new cool. That's the super resident. Walter Matthow was recently elected our nation's first super president. He is in charge of the other president and he is dead.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Cheech Marin's in this one, Jane Seymour, Christopher Walken. Wow. They're not making any other movies, huh? Is this the only movie they were making? I guess you get a call and you're like, I guess I'll be in the war with grandpa. Nice, dude. That's the script.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Dude, that was fucking cool. My agents, is there any other movie? What is this? I could be in Cyborg. Oh, that was Jane Seymour. Sorry. That was Jane Seymour. That was sounds like a tape recorder
Starting point is 00:07:34 that's being thrown down a plane of stairs. That was my impression of Torgo. I'm going to war with grandpa. So my problem is 2,725 IMDB users have rated this film already. They are sitting at 5.3 in just their excitement or I guess pleasure that they've already derived from the promotional material surrounding the war with grandpa. Is that fair to say?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah, I think, man, here's the thing is that you got De Niro, you got Walken. This movie sounds like it's going to have a lot of sort of mature themes. These two fellas are always doing films with mature themes. So I'd love to take my family to this film, but I have no evidence to point me towards the conclusion that this film would be satisfactory for me to watch with my whole family. Yeah, I'm with Griffin on this one.
Starting point is 00:08:37 It kind of seems like this might be fun for some of my family, like maybe the older kids or they're downplaying it and it's just good for the younger kids. What's amazing is I can actually break these ratings, IMDB ratings down by demographic. So if we zoom in, if we enhance here, kids under 18 are given this one a 6.3. Adults older than 45 are given it a 5.2.
Starting point is 00:09:02 So the kids are saying, yes, I would like to go to war with grandpa. And the grandparents are saying, actually, I would prefer that we not go to war. Well, they know. If I'm not mistaken, Justin, this is out of 10. So saying that 6.3 is I would like to go is awful generous. It's a sort of cautious in theory. I would like to go to war with grandpa. It's as if to say, I'm afraid of what the other options might be.
Starting point is 00:09:29 If this is the best one, then yes. But if there's something better, I would like to do that. This is the episode. Let's really get into the war with grandpa. It's called the war with grandpa, which seems to intimate a back and forth, a firing of, just looking at the trailer here, prank salvos that seem to escalate fairly quickly. Here's Robert De Niro putting foam sealant on his face instead of shaving cream.
Starting point is 00:09:58 That would tear the man's flesh. That would render the grandpa. That's an emergency room. That's an emergency room for sure. For sure. Apparently he sneaks a very big poisonous snake into his bed while he's sleeping. So now that's a tempted murder. This film, it would be pretty fucking wild and also not suitable for me to bring my whole family to
Starting point is 00:10:17 if the grandpa reciprocates even once. This is a war on grandpa. Grandpa is not going to pull out an aluminum baseball bat. Like, now my fucking turn, it's not going to do it. He's just going to take his licks, I guess. Now here's the thing though, Griffin. I would give an Oscar to a movie in which a child mercilessly pranks, and I'd say prank, with quotes around it, an old man.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And those pranks include poisonous snakes and such. And the old man is just like, please, I just came for a visit because I love my family. I just wanted to spend time with my grandkid and get to know you. Why are you doing this? Maybe the title is actually not. Maybe the prank war is like the first five minutes, and then seven minutes in, Oaks-Fegley gets drafted into the war with the robots,
Starting point is 00:11:17 and he has to go to war with his grandpa. Okay, they're both conscripted into the battle against AI, and he has to go to war with his grandpa also. Okay, here's my fanfic for the movie. Okay, the prank war, that's the first five minutes of the movie. And then grandpa says, you know, this isn't the first war I've been in, and Oaks-Fegley says, what do you mean grandpa? And so then grandpa starts telling him about the great war that he fought in,
Starting point is 00:11:48 and Oaks-Fegley is there with him. We could fill that in with whatever war is the hot, we'll focus group that one. It's timeless. When we remake this movie. Yeah, and so then Oaks-Fegley is there with his grandfather, as the grandfather is telling him the story. And you see young grandpa, which is what we'll call the character, and like his time in probably France.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I mean, I'm just assuming France. When he's young, grandpa, can we just call him dad? Yes, okay. And he's drinking a lot of absinthe, and then basically it just becomes like Mulan Rouge. And that, it's fun for the whole family. That's where we get the family fun aspect. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I do see a clip in this trailer between the knocking him off a roof while he's dressed as Santa Claus and putting a poison snake in his bed, where the grandpa and this grandson give a hug to each other. And I'm not sure where in the sequence of events that's going to fit in, but it's fun for the family is here and it's cool for its new cool. Well, you'll have to imagine the movie ends with them reconciling, right? Or does it end with them like, I still fucking hate your guts. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:13:00 This movie was finished and ready to be released February 23, 2018. Oh, it had to mature in the bottle. We got to let this one age. Oh, this one's a barrel age comedy. Get that oaky finish. It's got, it's got peaty notes. Oh, wait, it has Pete's dragon notes. I wish I could be there with Bob.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Bobby, when he opens the newspaper and sees that big one sheet in variety, he's like, go see the world with grandpa. And he has to sit there and stare at it for five solid minutes. Wait, didn't he already put this movie out? And then he'll just quietly say to himself, there's no fucking way I did this movie. This does not seem right. Did they let me make three of these?
Starting point is 00:13:42 How many of these movies I make? I told them that hologram Robert De Niro was to be used only in case of national emergency, not for films like The War with Grandpa. Oh, no. I'm seeing here on IMDb in the trivia that this movie is made all, well, with deleted scenes from Cool Grandpa. Yeah, the Oaks-Fegley was just reacting to footage that they already had.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, and a little bit. It says here, just a little bit of Baby Foggers. A drizzling of Baby Foggers. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:20 He was in there just sort of sky captain in the world of tomorrow and just kind of pranking a tennis ball. But they put in De Niro using Adobe After Effects. Yeah. I could, anybody could do that. My kid could do that. And they had me do the ADR. They had Travis do the ADR.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Travis, give me something. Travis, say like, you just threw, say like. Hey, hey, hey, is this a snake in my bed? What, there's a fucking snake in my fucking bed? You little fucking piece of shit trying to kill me? Yeah, it says that in the script at least on GitHub. And can you read that one line that's like, you're gonna throw a beehive at my penis?
Starting point is 00:15:02 Can you say that line? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna throw a fucking beehive in my penis? So the bees sting my balls? Do it PG-13. I love Travis. I love the sting in the ball stuff. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Okay, I'll work it out. Like this film is for the whole family. So we can't actually show balls. I'll allude to it, okay? We want to paint the image. So it's like a Pixar thing where like you can say a dirty thing and then the parents will get it and think about like sexy stuff. Got it, got it, got it.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Okay, let me try again. Try again, but don't curse so much. You're gonna throw a fudge in beehive at my fudge in genitals so that they sting my old man testicles? No, it's a little too clinical. I just really want to do that size. Okay, let me try again, can I try again? Just don't say fucking and don't say fudge in.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Let's, because this is gonna, this is real now. Okay, okay, okay, okay. What, you're going to throw that GD? Is that okay? I just, okay, yeah, I got it, I got it, I got it. Go back to saying fucking and we'll fix it. Okay. What are you fucking asshole?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Is that better? No? Hold on, but the line there that you gave, and that was an inspired read, is what are you fucking asshole? What are you, okay, I left that away. It's ankle here, but at this point his balls have been so stung, so terribly by these hornets. These fucking bees are stinging my fucking old balls,
Starting point is 00:16:19 and I'm here trying to flirt with this lady at this pool party, and you threw these fucking bees at me, and I'm going into anaphylactic shock, I can't breathe, and you took my EpiPen and you smoked it like a vape, and now I'm dying because of my allergic reaction to these fucking bees stinging my fucking balls. Guys, the reviews are in on this fucking movie, the war with grandpa, everyone is talking about it, somehow it has over 70 ratings on Google.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I just to give you some of the highlights, here's for a four star review from Anthony, this is out of five, I should mention, so I'm going to like it a little bit more. One of the funnier movies I watched these days, reminiscent of the epic Home Alone series, I thoroughly enjoyed the gentle comedy, which I bet is fucking right on the money. We've already established there's a scene with a snake in the bed.
Starting point is 00:17:15 I thoroughly enjoyed the gentle comedy provoked by the war between a grandpa and sixth grader grandson. There's enmity without malice, and revenge without vengeance, I don't know why he became fucking William Faulkner halfway through this review, but here we are, lovely little family movie. If anyone ever referred to our jokes and the things that we do on these shows as gentle comedy, I feel like that would be a pretty huge letdown for me. I feel like, I don't, and I'm not saying we're, you know, edgy, we're edgy,
Starting point is 00:17:51 I don't think that that's true, although we did do an extended bit about throwing a beehive at Robert De Niro's reproductive organs. I think we're just sort of normal comedy. I don't know what gentle comedy entails. He misspelled genital. Does that mean, does that mean that it's just not funny? And it's like, is that what gentle comedy is? It's a thinker, because Brad Barrage says this movie was hilarious,
Starting point is 00:18:17 loved it throughout, funny all the way, a total time killer. Great movie to watch with family and have a great time together. This movie will make you laugh a lot. A total family entertainer. Cool. Now, a TFE, a total family entertainer, always looking for those. Now here's what I will say, if someone was describing something I had made, and they were like, oh, so funny, so wonderful, really killed some time,
Starting point is 00:18:48 I think that that last one would take away from the first two. I'm just like, I liked the way that when I sat down to watch it, it was one time. And when I was finished watching it, it was a later time. And I enjoyed that. I enjoyed how time continued. It's linear flow. Here's one, a five star review. You hardly get to watch movies like that these days.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Well, loved it. I had all the favorite casts there. Where are they watching this movie? Is it out? Can I watch it? I don't think so. How come they get to watch it? Movie for kids only.
Starting point is 00:19:26 It's three stars out of five. This is kind of the other side of the coin, which we've been very positive about war with grandpa at this point. Any bad shit about war with grandpa. Movie for kids only. Or maybe a family. Maybe a family of kids. Like a campfire thing.
Starting point is 00:19:45 You know, like the hard men's from Worcestershire. Imagine ever that kind of deal. You get it. You like it. Some good laughs and typical comedy performance. And damn, Robert De Niro is very old. Is this saying that? Don't be, don't be ages to Robert De Niro.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Robert De Niro is very old, but still kicking. Still kicking ass or still like. There is that, there's that prolonged scene. I'm watching the trailer now. Where Robert De Niro just kicks that kid a lot. That's probably what he's referring to. It's actually, here's one, five star view. Five out of five stars.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Greatest movie ever. It's actually a pretty good movie. Love the scenes between grandpa and his grandchildren, which I would assume for what I've gathered has gotta be the majority of the scenes, right? They were very sparing with the interactions between grandpa and grandson. They just sprinkled it in.
Starting point is 00:20:42 This is just a total family entertainer. Just a total family entertainer. This is the total family entertainer. And she says, I love this movie. Also, the characters are really pretty. Huh? All right, all right, all right. But not the actors, huh?
Starting point is 00:21:00 The characters. Like their hearts. Maybe they have an inner, they have an inner beauty. I think that's maybe what we're talking about. Mmm. You can see the twinkle in Oak Speckley's eye. Is that a first name or first and last, by the way? It's a symbol.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I just want to, I'm going to go down the quick hit of all these other five star views. Awesome movie after so long, especially in COVID. I like that one because it's like, listen, if the COVID shit hadn't happened, I probably would not be enjoying this flick. But right now, it's about all I can stomach. So yes, good.
Starting point is 00:21:36 On that front, yes, good, gentle. It's like, you know, in the scene where it's like, I've been crawling through the desert forever. And I find like a stagnant pond and I'm so excited. You know what I mean? Like, I wouldn't drink that day to day. It's not just me crawling through the desert, Travis. It's my whole fucking gosh dang family.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. And then we find not one oasis. Griffin's family of kids. Griffin's Fagan style family of kids. His little town style of kids. It is many oasis. A total family entertainer, Travis, like bring into noise, bring into funk.
Starting point is 00:22:12 A total entertainment package, like Blue Man Group, baby. It no one's upset by Blue Man Group, right? I can't, I mean, I don't know. Okay, we'll find out. Hey, do you guys think Blue Man Group has done a zoom? Yeah. Do you think they're doing private zooms? Probably just with each other.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Excellent movie. Good, good. Love it. That's like they got asked by Google as they were trying to get to work on time. Like Google's like, hey, real quick, real quick. What'd you think? Yeah, it's good. It's good movie.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, yeah. James Hare says, books butthole. Don't know what that means. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. One more time? Books butthole. Two words. Wait, like this movie is a books butthole or?
Starting point is 00:23:00 This movie is a books butthole. Or maybe the book that or with grandpa's based on grandpa's war. The last review here, five stars from three days ago. And this is, I, this is actually, it seems to sum it up. Good but could be more all caps. Fun. Good. But could be more fun.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I don't think it looks like it could be any more fun. Do you think grandpa dies in this movie? Yes. No, absolutely. Okay, see, I don't actually think so. Oh, interesting. No, I think it's like, I think it's like, I think this whole movie might just be a ploy to get people to be on better terms with their grandparents.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And I think it's, I think it's that this boy just completely just savages this older gentleman. And then not because of a prank. I'm not saying that the boy like pushes him off a ladder as he stresses Santa Claus and he falls, although he does do that, or like he puts a poison snake in his bed and the snake bites him and he dies from that. Although he does do that also, unrelated thing. And then the boy's like, man, I should have been like cooler to him.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Here's what I think happens. Yeah, sure. All that prank stuff, everything we see in the trailer, that's the first five minutes. And then the grandfather gets bit by a snake and dies. And the boy is so sad that he goes to heaven to fight the angels to save, to bring back his grandfather's soul. Much like, and it's been a while since I've seen it,
Starting point is 00:24:39 but what I'm pretty sure happens in what dreams may come. It's what happens in what dreams may come is what happens in Dante's Inferno. It's what happens in the Poisonwood Bible. This movie is a movie. It's a total family entertainer. It's also a total literary omnibus. The boy goes to war with God to bring back his grandfather's soul. And it's fun for the whole family.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Teams up with fucking Constantine? Yeah, baby. Fuck yes. Me, fuck yes. Oh, God, yes. Oh, and maybe there's a fallen angel trying to get his wings back. It's a whole thing. Oh, fuck, I'm excited for this movie, you guys.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Speaking of this movie, I don't want to like diminish because I think that things are often made more beautiful by their imperfections, but I did want to jump into some goofs. Okay. Oh, man. The internet, you know, Sherlock's are already out at this one. Pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick, pick. Knit, pick, pick, pick, pick.
Starting point is 00:25:36 And I think, but you know what? You know what I like about these goofs though? What, Justin? Let's give me an early look at the war with grandpa, because I'm getting a sneak peek into some of the scenes before me. A common American is able to watch and enjoy this. Oh, do they release this in like France? Perhaps.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I mean, there's all these reviews and goofs. Let's see, we got a couple of character errors. Ed is told at Jerry's friend's funeral that he died in his sleep while skydiving. Well, this is a funny joke. In real life, all parachutes for sport jumping are equipped with an automatic activation device designed to activate the parachute to open if the user becomes unconscious or otherwise unable to deploy the parachute when getting too close to the ground.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Who wrote this? Who wrote this? What stupid fucking idiot wrote this movie? Yeah. Can I, hey, can I point out a goof in that goof? Yeah. Yeah. Fucking goof.
Starting point is 00:26:30 If he died in his sleep, he's dead before he hits the ground. It doesn't matter if the parachute goes off or not, you goof. Yeah. If he explodes into old jelly, then it's like. I'm saying he's dead before he hits the ground. Yeah, so. I would love to know how they did the analytics on that one, but yes, Travis, that's an excellent.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Can I say this? Can I say this though? It is fucking funny. Right? Funny. He died in his sleep while skydiving. Okay, this next one's good. Ed tells his granddaughter that, quote,
Starting point is 00:27:02 pretty much every foundation I dug, I found a marble or two. And, quote, if you count all those marbles in the glass jar, you'll know how many houses I built. Pretty much implies he did not find a marble at the start of every house. And for the others, he found one or two, which means he found one, two, or more. Circumstances, which would not give him a left count
Starting point is 00:27:25 of the number of houses he built, let alone an accurate one. I think the jury will find. I don't want to pick holes in Mr. De Niro's film, but. What the fuck? Why would there be marbles just? So this film opens with a different Grandpa's funeral. So there's got to be a grandchild who goes. Who's won his war.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Who's won his war. Or at the very least experience it, who goes to Pete's Dragon and he's like, you don't want to. I'm telling you, I'm going to live with this weight, this guilt for the rest of my fucking days on this earth. Don't do it, Pete's Dragon. Oh, shit. Yeah, but he does it anyway.
Starting point is 00:28:07 This movie is a backdoor sequel to Problem Childs. That kid is like, I murdered my grandpa and it's great. I get all the like sweets and treats I want. Yeah. Also inspired by the Poisonwood Bible. Probably. Got a couple of real quick plot holes. I'm skipping.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Ed demonstrates his ignorance of simple electronic devices, such as the self-checkout, an iPad, and a drone. If I can take a second just to kind of keep my sides from splitting, I just got to say that's fucking sounds funny. Yeah. Yeah, he somehow manages to log on to his grandson's presumably password protected computer, find the game his grandson has been playing,
Starting point is 00:28:48 enter it, locate, and subsequently destroy the castle he has been building for three years. Oh, my God. I got to see this flick. That sounds great. I know, right? I got to see the seat. I just want one time in my life to see the old Rageant
Starting point is 00:29:02 bull get in there and tear down some kids' Minecraft castle. That's where he's at now. Am I talking to you? Not while I'm gaming. Hey, can I eat all your redstone? I figured out a way to eat all your redstone. I ate it all. No more switches for you.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Huh? Fuckin' up, Bobby. I made your Fortnite guy do the forbidden dances and got your band. Now I'm Twitch streaming. But that's just for me. That's not part of the prank. And this is where I do.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I think we should probably put a pin in the intro and move on to show after this. But I have one more plot hole. Oh, OK, great, great. And this may be actually getting into a little bit of spoiler. Oh, OK. So skip ahead about 10 minutes. Skip ahead 10 to 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Make it 20. Make it 20. Do 20. Just 20. Just stop listening. Just stop listening. We're going to have the money zone soon. So don't actually skip ahead.
Starting point is 00:30:04 OK, just start listening to it at like five times speed. Justin has to say that to keep the advertisers happy. But I want you to go into this film with fucking virgin ears and his eyes and a heart and soul of a child's mind. So don't listen to this next fucking part no matter what you do. It's cursed. I'm going to put a ring curse on this next 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Nice. And don't interrupt me for a second, OK? After the many accidents at the birthday party, Sally is angry with Ed for citing the war as being the cause of all the events that transpired. However, almost everything major that happened at that event with the exception of the ejector seat care started as a direct result of a rat chewing through a cable
Starting point is 00:30:49 that is not connected with the war at all. Therefore not his nor his grandson's fault. This sounds like fun for the whole family. Sounds like a fucking total family entertainer is what it sounds like. There's a fucking rat chewing a cable that makes an ejector seat. You know an ejector seat at a party. Fuck, that's funny. It's really funny.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And I'm kind of losing old school versus new cool. Get it in theater. I still don't even want to joke and say that part. No, this one's common. Yeah. So that's our first movie in the intro segment that was supposed to be one of many films we've talked about. The war with grandpa is coming.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Don't see it in theaters. It's going to be out October 9th, 2020. You know, you've waited two years to see this flick without knowing it. I think you could probably wait until it's out on at home viewing options. And that is our first ad. And now let's move on to some more ads in the money. If you want to hire a family to watch war with grandpa with you, you're going to need zip recruiter.
Starting point is 00:32:08 I don't need zip recruiter. Yeah. Let me just put a quick disclaimer here. I don't know that you can hire a family through zip recruiter, but if you could hire a family, zip recruiter would be the place to do it, right? Because it's hard to find the right person.
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Starting point is 00:34:56 Stitchfix.com slash my brother. How about a time we broke the story of a bunch of Disney Channel original movies based solely on the title and the poster? Okay, Sarah Highland is a 50-foot woman. Let's just go with it, guys. Or the time we finally cracked the Adobe Photoshop feature film. Stamp tool is your Woody. And then the auto film is the new Buzz Lightyear.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Join us as we have a good time at matching. All the movies Hollywood is too cowardly to make. Storybreak comes out every Thursday on Maximum Fun. I don't know why I'm using this voice now. Question or Yahoo? Well, I have to make an apology. And maybe you guys can join in too. Because I feel like we've been talking a lot about more with grandpa.
Starting point is 00:35:58 But we've been talking a lot about how it's fun for the whole family. And I feel like we should clarify like that includes found family. You know what I mean? Because not everybody has a good relationship. Maybe your grandpa is more of like a Docker Brown scenario. Where you have like a found grandpa you want to go to war with. And I just want to make it clear that like, I think it's fun for the whole found family as well.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I just don't want, you know, you're sitting there with maybe two roommates. Or, you know, like your coven. Or like, you know, just your high school friends who you're still really tight with. And you talk about how good you did in the big game. Like no matter who it is, right? I think literally everyone will enjoy watching war with grandpa. I think that this movie is really going to bring people back together
Starting point is 00:36:44 after we've been pulled apart by COVID. Yeah, that's actually a great point, Travis. You got to remember that when you're watching war with grandpa at your house, you're actually watching it with everybody else on Planet Earth. Let's also enjoy this film. And that's something that you can't, you can't get for free. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, everybody's, everybody came from the same sort of Adam and Eve.
Starting point is 00:37:06 So we're all family if you think about it. Yep. Griffin, that's so true. That's so true. We all came up out of Abraham. So we got, it's all, we're all family. We all family. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:17 We all came up. Yep, yep, yep. Yes. Thank you. And you know, I think maybe we should do like a widely synced, now I'm not saying me, I'm saying the world. This is a wide, the whole world should just all watch war with grandpa at the exact same time. I think that could be cool.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I think that'd be nice. That could be nice. I'd like to buy the world a limited time streaming copy of war with grandpa for them to enjoy and then we'd all be united. Yeah. And here's, here's like, can I put like a little cool spin on it? Yeah. We're not going to schedule that time.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I want everyone to just feel it. I want them to feel it. Like there will come a moment where we're like, this is it and you're right. It's everybody will just, we'll all sync up and it might be now, it might be 10 years from now. But like we will, there will come a moment where all of our breeding patterns and our heartbeats and yes, our periods will all sync up and we'll just know it's the time to watch war with grandpa. Well, I mean, it'll also have the title song,
Starting point is 00:38:20 war with grandpa that Chance the Rapper did for the soundtrack of war with grandpa. So maybe we'll just like play, like you'll just, you're just going to hear it. And not from any kind of radio or CD player. No. You're just going to, it's just going to be, you're just going to hear it and you'll know that it's time to race to the Blu-ray player and, or sorry, streaming your Roku and- Or your Goku.
Starting point is 00:38:49 On your Goku to watch this film. Or however we're watching movies at that point, because like I said, it might be a long time from now. Am I reading this right? This movie's four and a half hours long. How could that possibly be? Not, nothing was left on the cutting room for it. It's all on screen.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And I mean, including like where they would cut and like reset and like film scenes again, they didn't edit anything out. They made it kind of like Boyhood where they've been shooting this movie since Oaks Fagley was born. And he's 26 now. I would love to talk about Tim Hill, the, I hate, I want to pivot a little bit. Really thought we were about to do a question. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:38 No, I just want to get this one last thing. Yeah, real quick, we'll get to the episode. Super quick. I want to start the episode very soon. I did want to hit this one last thing about Tim Hill and just go through his film. Now, who is that? Like, he's the director of a film called The World of Karate. Oh, right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Of course, of course. Yeah. So let's pretend we're doing like a, maybe this is like our neck. If we're, if we're a blank check, we're doing like our blank check. Here are the films that we'd be enjoying in this series. Muppets from Space. Sorry, Justin, before you continue, are you going chronologically back to front or front to back? Back to front.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Okay, thank you. Muppets from Space. Max Keebles Big Move. Good. Great first one. Fun flick. The SpongeBob SquarePants movie, he did not direct, so we can skip that one. Unfortunately, the one of these that I would have wanted to watch.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Fuck, you don't want to watch Max Keebles Big Move? Max Keebles Rips Ass, dude. Max Keebles is a fine film. Tears it up every, every viewing. I've worn out the spindles on my, on my VHS of Max Keeples. Here's the re, here. Okay, so then he's got Garfield Tale of Two Kitties. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:40:45 All right. Off going. And then Alvin and the Chilots. All right. And then Hop. Huh. If you remember that one. Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Russell Brand is a cute little bunny. Firing on all cylinders. Then Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever. Whoa. And then for six years, nothing. Huh. Well, once you nail it, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:09 And then in 2020, he's got both the SpongeBob Movie Sponge on the Run and the War with Grandpa. So Tim Hill is back. He's on fucking fire. Can I say, okay, Jay Mann, when you started his filmography, I was not expecting this laundry list of certified hits. Yeah. Huge hits all bad. But all recognizable, though.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Recognizable hits. There's been one thread. Tiny. I feel like we have probably talked about Tim Hill's movies on this podcast more than a lot of huge directors. We have definitely, definitely talked about Garfield Tale of Two Kitties. Oh, I'm almost certain that it also inspired an episode long fever dream like the one we currently find ourselves embroiled in. Well, this is just the intro, Griff.
Starting point is 00:42:01 We'll get to the episode. But I'm saying that sometimes you get these and it's like, you know, college bobsled three or whatever. And you're like, what? Who's this person? But Tim Hill has had a storied career. Tim Hill has also done some amazing work on TV. Welcome, freshmen.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Oh. Rocko's modern life. Holy shit. Bobby's world. Okay. Ka-Blam. Action League now. Don't mind if I fucking do.
Starting point is 00:42:28 It's War with Grandpa. Really good. What if War with Grandpa fucking rips ass? Rips ass right alongside Max Cables. I'm saying. We're going to look so smart when this movie fucking rips ass. You have convinced me. I am, I feel comfortable being swept away in the audience.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I don't think I could say it like that again if I try. Say it again. Just like that, baby. Comfortable. Comfortable. Comfortable. Comfortable. I'm comfortable in the arms of Tim Hill.
Starting point is 00:43:02 To Tim Hill. Comfortable. Catering me away to Tim Hill. Where does he go from here? The grandpa's been bad. We've gone to war with him. He's got to be reborn. The next one can't just be love.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Grandpa struggles in peacetime. No, the next one's just going to be love grandpa. And people are going to see that and be like, love grandpa. That sounds a little gross for me. And then Tim's going to have to go on a sort of door to door grassroots marketing campaign and be like, no, you pronounce it love grandpa like a command.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Oh, I thought it was like love actually. No, love grandpa. Love grandpa. You must love grandpa. You have seen him be bad. You have seen him be dirty. You have seen him at war. Now you must love grandpa.
Starting point is 00:43:57 You must love grandpa. Can we real quick, I don't, I hate to do this on the show, but real quick, can I just, can we just enjoy together the trailer for with grandpa? It's like a good use of our time. Okay, give me just one second to get it kind of fire spooled up here. I'm going to do a little Bluetooth pairing. Imagine while I'm doing this,
Starting point is 00:44:23 what if I was Ed from a war with grandpa? Oh my God, you wouldn't be able to figure it out. You couldn't do it. I was trying to do this. Can you fucking imagine? You'd be losing it. You'd be absolutely losing it. I'm already losing it, just picturing it.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I'm losing it thinking about it. Yeah, it's really funny. Got to say, Juice, it is taking you about as long as it would take Salty Ed to figure it out. I haven't seen him even think about that. Yeah, right? You're thinking about that as fucking busting me off. It's kind of bringing us all together,
Starting point is 00:44:57 like our whole family so far loves it. It really is a total family entertainer war with grandpa. This one's got 4.7 million views, more views than anything we've ever done in our entire lives. Yeah, nice. No, it's okay. Here we go, hold on. Let's do this.
Starting point is 00:45:19 The war with grandpa official trailer. He's in a grocery store? Can I help you, sir? You can help me find Maria. All Maria's gone. We're completely self-checked out now. Please scan your item. Please scan your item.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I just did. Please scan your item. Ha, ha, ha. Then he leaves. He gets arrested. This can't keep happening. He hits a mailbox. You're not putting me in a home.
Starting point is 00:45:43 What if it were our home? Oh, my God. Jenny! Hi, Grandpa. Hello, sweetheart. How's your daughter's place that she gave me That's nice of her. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:45:54 How do you like your room? Okay, look, I didn't want it to be this way either. I just want my room back. Jesus. The kid runs into a... I want to put up with this little hanging. I demand my room back or I'll set the small. Declaration of war.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Give me back what is mine and face the consequences. Okay. Okay. You got your wish. It's got a power drill. That's going full sealant. This shirt was off in that scene. You want me to help you and your buddies.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Help beat up your grandson and his buddies because the two of you can't figure out some way to live in the same place. Funny. Well, when you put it like that. I'm in. What? What?
Starting point is 00:46:36 What? This kind of aggression shall not stand for five. I didn't know you were a Marine. Oh, my God. It's because we're walking on a hyperboard. Just saying. Let's do this. Do you even remember how to play dodgeball?
Starting point is 00:46:50 She don't need you diaper. She don't need you diaper. She don't need you diaper. You're shit's blown out, Justin. They're playing dodgeball. Why are we doing it this way? When you have peace talks, you need someone neutral to mediate.
Starting point is 00:47:06 He gave me a cookie. It is true a cookie was given. That is funny though. Yeah. That actually is very funny. That's funny. I think your grandpa might be a ninja. We're going to end this somehow.
Starting point is 00:47:19 He's falling off on a ladder onto a bouncy castle. Oh, did you see that? She said he's dead. It was Christopher Walker dressed in sand. It's going to be cool. OK. It's so fucking good. And then here comes the.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And there's a snake. Yeah, it's like a godfather thing. It's like a kind of a godfather thing. So that is war with grandpa coming to theaters. What did we say? Let's probably not theaters. October. No, sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Sorry. Only in theaters. So don't even try to see this one. That is going to be, you know, I have been very good about this whole quarantine thing. That is going to be sort of an incredible rigid hell for me. Two tempting.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Yeah. Two tempting that people are out there loving this movie, enjoying this movie. The war with grandpa. Please no spoilers. Now listen, there was a moment in that movie. If I'm not mistaken and granted it was playing clearly through Justin's phone.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Where Jane Seymour. Yes. Who is the Miss Maria, I believe is the Maria that he is. OK. Justin's putting the pieces together. She works at the grocery store. She works at the grocery store. She and she they probably will.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Yes. OK. But and she is she Pete's mom? No. No. Uma Thurman is Pete's mom. Yeah. OK.
Starting point is 00:48:41 See, this is why I was confused. Maria is his his sexual partner. Yeah. No, they're going to they're going to pork for sure. Uma Thurman, I imagine has no knowledge of this conflict. That's why it's confused because it did sound as though the mother character was like, yeah, let's beat up my son. No, no, it's no.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It is a I guess it is Salty Ed's lover is. Yes. So they're going to beat up a child. They're going to try to kick ass. And Jane Seymour says it. She doesn't even she's not joking. Yeah, she says that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Let's beat up some. That should be a moment where even if you're Ed and you do, you are craving her wave, right? And and and you have deep beef with your grandson. But then this other human being seems very excited. That's where you should go like, oh, yeah, you should call somebody about that. Man, I would rather old Bob DeNiro give me a four alarm ass whip and then delete my fucking Minecraft save.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I'd let that. I'd let that I'd let that dude just fuck me up with a two by four before I let him anywhere near my Minecraft village. I I love it. If he was like a 20 minute seed of him destroying his Minecraft castle. And then Oaks was like, yeah, OK. And just reload it like it's cocky. I got a cloud safe.
Starting point is 00:50:10 My good. Yeah, it's in the cloud. Dum dum. Was there also a moment in there that was just just brushing up against a little stolen Valor? Yeah, a little bit stolen Valor from Chris Walker. But you know what? Later you see him in a Santa suit.
Starting point is 00:50:27 So that's stolen Valor twice in one trailer, Chris. You sure? Just gently brushing up stolen Valor there. Yeah, I'm I'm the real Santa Claus. There you, sir. I need a 10 percent discount at the movie theaters. Oh, holy shit. The real one.
Starting point is 00:50:47 OK, so the most baffling shot of this trailer, if you're watching this trailer, you're watching this trailer and you're loving it. You're losing it. I don't want to distract you too much from what you're enjoying it. But I do want to draw your attention to one fifty five, where I'm going to give you a shot for shot breakdown because I cannot make fucking heads or tails of it. OK.
Starting point is 00:51:05 OK. We see in sequence. Sorry, let me slow down the playback speed to the slow as possible. OK, so we see a shot of a at the top of a ladder is Bobby DeNiro. He's hanging Christmas lights. Got it. He gets shocked by the wire. We see an elf look up from the snow and Bobby D is falling.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Wait, an elf? A little child elf, probably oaks. I think it's oaks. He's dressed as an elf. He looks up and sees his grandfather falling. The ladder is falling backwards into a bouncy castle. And we see a shot of Ed looking very distraught in his Santa cap as he falls, plummeting.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Probably he has to assume to his death. Yeah. Then we see a wide of him falling in the bounce castle. Let's hope it's a stunt double. Probably I'm just going to say a red herring for the trailer. And then the next shot at the cutaway is someone in a Santa costume landing on the ground. But it's different. It's different.
Starting point is 00:52:15 It's Santa falling on the ground and it's Christopher Walken. So this shot has taken us a composite of Bobby D falling into a bounce castle. And then he rises again as Christopher Walken dresses Santa. Yeah, it's almost like he died. And then Oaks-Fegley had to go and bring the soul back, but the soul got lodged in Christopher Walken, if you will. Here's the part that fucking does piss me off. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Oh, this is my favorite segment when we do when we talk about this movie for an hour. Listen, just the one thing else. Okay, this this is maybe the one in the trailer of the war with grandpa, at least on the movie clips upload. At 201, we see a scene of Oaks and Salty Ed hugging. Yeah. Huh. So like, I guess, I guess that's how it ends.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Thanks. Right. Like, why did we even have the entire fucking war? Red. Apparently at the end of it, they're just going to, how am I supposed to get excited about this war with grandpa? What if I know it ends with peace? Justin, it's a red herring.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Do you not worry? That is something they put in the trailer that will not be in the actual movie, because in the end, they mutually assured destruction. This is what I've decided now. Within layers, within layers, within layers. They've both put snakes in each other's beds. And as the fangs sink in and they feel the injection of venom, they will both say, we weren't so different, you and I.
Starting point is 00:53:41 As they stare into each other's eyes and die simultaneously, like in the notebook. Now, I hate to continue to ruin this, but Chris, we do zoom out to see that Christopher Walken has been watching this entire scene play out from about three feet away. And the camera pans down and we see in his hand a bottle labeled snake venom antidote. And he says, I guess it's true. We are all but shadows. Then he walks up the window.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. He walks out the way. And he's wearing his dressed as Santa and he falls to his death. Yeah. He walks up the window and dresses Santa, falls to his death. His fingers, life was fingers uncurled, a bottle of anti-snake venom, and Uma just starts screaming. She knows what's happened.
Starting point is 00:54:30 She's lost every day. And this is not the first time this has happened to her, by the way. We find out about this later, but like, she's already lost an entire extended family to snake-related acts. In the distance, there's just a man in a white suit who checks something off of a clipboard and then vanishes. The shitty thing is, it's not even, the snakes aren't even because of the War with Grandpa. It's because the rats chew through the damn cake.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Yeah. Fuck. So we don't even learn that till the end. Yeah. Um, thank you for listening to our podcast. We have run out of... We don't have time for a yahoo or... No, we don't have any time for anything in this one,
Starting point is 00:55:06 but gosh, there's a good discussion of the War with Grandpa. Maybe the best we've ever had. One of our top discussions. We're going to keep a really close eye on this flick. Uh, and what, what a treat. Uh, what, what, what a treat we have to look forward to. Uh, just, this is just a quick reminder. Don't go to movie theaters.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Don't go to the movie theater, even as a fucking goof, to go see this movie and send this to your like, take a stab or whatever. Don't, don't, don't do it. Well, okay. If you want to buy a ticket to something, then not go into the movies. That's fine. Toward this great flick.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I'm absolutely into that. We have to get to the 100-year War with Grandpa. Yeah. No problem at all. But thank you. Um, thank you also. We wrote, I, I, no, sorry, uh, we'll do Travis then Griffin. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:48 We wrote a how to podcast book and we just got like the first like preview copies of it. And listen, I'm not just saying this because it's our book. It's really good. It's like a well-made book. All the pages stay in there. No matter how hard you flop it around, you're going to love it. And it will teach you how to make a podcast that you're proud of.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And it's like fun and funny. Teresa was reading it and laughing out loud. And it is hard to make Teresa laugh. Wow. So there it is. You can pre-order it. This is why Frieda's podcast. She chose to, sir.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Graham. It's called Everybody Has a Podcast Except You. You can pre-order it at, uh, sure. Thank. No, it's, it's, it's except. Except? Yep. Is it but?
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Starting point is 00:56:51 For sure. For sure. I almost feel like maybe we don't do a final yahoo. Yeah. I think it's, I think that's the end of the episode. No, I can do a movies one. I have a movies one. Here's a final movies one.
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