My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - MFM Minisode 113

Episode Date: March 11, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is exactly right. We at Wondery live, breathe, and downright obsess over true crime. And now we're launching the ultimate true crime fan experience, Exhibit C. Join now by following Wondery, Exhibit C, on Facebook and listen to true crime on Wondery and Amazon Music. Exhibit C. It's truly criminal. Hello. Hi.
Starting point is 00:00:43 And welcome. To my favorite murder. This is a mini-soat. It's mini. That's Karen. That's Georgia. And that's still Karen. Oh.
Starting point is 00:00:51 We read your stories. Listen, look, the very end of this episode, we have a very fucking crazy special surprise for you. That's bananas that we've been waiting for. That we've been waiting for so long to tell you and told you we've been waiting. You know that. You've been teased so long about this that you don't care anymore. Just get through this one last bullshit.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Because you're going to care again. Exactly. You know, it's going to make your heart grow two sizes too small. And here's a hint. That's exactly right. Okay. You go first. Guys, here's my first, I was going to say number one, but that's not true.
Starting point is 00:01:29 How would we pick? I mean, truly. I'm not going to read this subject line. It's a giveaway. Guys, really, let's be a little more mysterious than our subject lines. Yeah, but then they won't know what to pull. You know, it's maybe an alternative subject line. That's right.
Starting point is 00:01:45 You can give the one that you want to give so people know what the story is about. Yeah. But then how about show line? That's a show subject lineup. That's a teaser. Great. And then Stephen could be like, this is okay. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Look, this is a meeting that we're supposed to be having off mic, but we're bringing you behind the scenes. Behind the scenes. That's exactly right. It's so boring. Okay. Hi, everyone. And also Stephen's mustache.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I went. So I went to the dentist yesterday to get some cavities filled and she casually asked me if I was doing anything fun this weekend. I said no. But that next weekend I was driving down from Reno where I live with some friends to see my favorite podcast live. I told her what MFM is and she got really excited. Turns out my dentist wanted to be a forensic dentist, dentist, sorry, and had taken a bunch
Starting point is 00:02:31 of forensic dentistry classes. Dude. Well, she was numbing my face. She told me about this case she'd learned about in class and actually examine the remains. In the 80s, this biker had disappeared, but since it's Nevada, a state that was basically created to make it easy to hide a body, they weren't able to find him and it was kind of forgotten about until recently. In the interim, a family had bought a house in Virginia City, which is nearby and.
Starting point is 00:02:55 That's where my murder was started in Vegas last night. Yeah, that's right. A quick sidebar. Last night we did a big show in Vegas. Thank you so much Las Vegas for being there and everybody could game. But also the time changed. We lost an hour and George and I look like we're in a cold commercial right now. We're both like, we're both ruddy and run down and we're both wearing weird bath robes.
Starting point is 00:03:20 How did we? I went to bed at four in the morning. Yeah. I played some buffalo. Buffalo. How fun was it? I won money. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah. It was really fun. I won no money. I just kept putting in $5 bills and immediately they just be gone because they know it like she's not going to stick around. She doesn't even know what she's doing. Okay. And now we're back.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Okay, here we are. Again, in the interim, a family had bought a house in Virginia City, which is nearby and they'd been having issues with their septic tank. Oh, no. Yes. They decided to drain it to see if that would help. But the pump got clogged with a boot, which is a huge deal. If they find anything in a septic tank that could be part of a body, it basically becomes
Starting point is 00:04:03 an investigation. Wow. I would hope so. Yeah, I got it. So, and they find a necklace and then some clothing and then a remarkably well-preserved body. Holy sh, literally a holy sh, a whole body, never, you get the rest. Apparently the person who killed him had shot him and put his body in their septic tank,
Starting point is 00:04:25 but then they poured bleach into the tank. Septic tanks operate by having a specific biome, which is made of microorganisms that break everything down. When the killer poured bleach into the tank, they killed off the microorganisms and it stopped de-comp almost completely. Amazing. The person then left the house and it had sat empty until a few years ago when the family moved in and discovered the body.
Starting point is 00:04:46 The body was mostly unrecognizable, but they were still able to pull his dental records and confirmed it was him and my adorable dentist was there doing the work. I tried not to think about the fact that her hands had been in a super dead mouth and now we're in mine. That had been in a septic tank for years too. Right, but that's what soaps are for. Okay. Fine.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Okay. Anyway, that's my Nevada hometown. So incredibly excited to see you all in Vegas next week. Stay sexy and don't put bleach in your septic tank. No. Helen. Amazing. I know.
Starting point is 00:05:19 It's not good. It's so good. Oh, he just never know about people, what their weird shit is. Yes. Literally. I mean literally. Okay. Go on and on.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Also that it also just connects to my thing of things being hidden where whether it's a box of beautiful treasure that you don't know is there from the 1700s or just a perfectly preserved biker. That shits everywhere. God damn it. Stuff is everywhere. It's everywhere. All over the world.
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's hidden. I just want to know. I just want to be a metal detectorist. I just want to be X-ray specs. X-ray specs. What? Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Here's one called Swinger Party Gone Wrong. Yes. You ready for this? I am. Okay. Put your papers down. Okay. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I thought I lost my place. Okay. So I never thought this was too big of a deal until I started listening to your podcast and realized how this could have ended so badly. So I was 22 years old and I had just moved to Austin, Texas from LA. It was my first time living in a little one bedroom apartment all by myself. Around 10pm one night I ran out to my car to grab something and went straight back into my apartment not locking the door behind me.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Oh. I sat down on the couch with my cat and was about to start a movie. Not even a minute later my door right next to the TV I was watching opened up completely and in the doorway stood a man I had never seen. A naked man. No. I was shocked. I couldn't even move and we seriously stared at each other for a good 10 seconds before
Starting point is 00:06:44 I jumped off the couch and said, who the fuck are you trying to sound tough and intimidating even though I'm just this tiny girl with nothing but a cat as protection. The man then said and he was being completely serious. Is this the Swinger Party? No. What? Does this look like a Swinger Party? I said no then he left and I could not stop laughing.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I called my dad right after and told him what happened as I'm still laughing. My dad however did not find it funny. No I bet he did. He didn't believe that he was looking for a Swinger Party. He thought he was testing the waters with me and checking out my apartment. I went from laughing to terrified in.5 seconds. I called the police gave the description of the man told them the situation and stayed at my girlfriend's house the next two nights.
Starting point is 00:07:27 The man ended up being my gay next door neighbor who had just moved in that week so I ended up seeing him a lot and he acted like nothing had ever happened. So weird. I avoided him at all costs so lock your damn doors always. Stay sexy and don't go to Swinger's parties or go walking around an apartment complex naked. Mandy. I mean for real I feel like any Swinger would tell you you don't arrive at the party totally
Starting point is 00:07:52 new. Are you new with this? Let there be a little bit of romance. First of all you have to go to the buffet. You have to go put your hot dish down at the buffet. But does it not remind you of something I would do to make you laugh? Yes. You show up at your hotel room.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Is this a Swinger's party? Oh shit. Is this a Swinger's party? Oh this is a family of four. Georgia have you met my college roommate? Or are you at the room next door? But what's crazy to me is that guy must have been on drugs because he was going to his neighbors and going is this a Swinger's party where it's like so sorry you got invited
Starting point is 00:08:24 to a Swinger's party at your neighbor's house and you didn't know where it was. And B, he owed her an edible arrangement the next day and I'm sorry. Minimum. With fucking chocolate covered strawberries and everything. And a nice card. Send and I'm sorry. Yeah. Arrangement.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You send a card that says dear neighbor. My balls are none of your business and I made them your business. Wow. That must have been scary for you. Yeah. Goodbye. Please forgive me I was on ketamine. Love Barry.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Oh Barry always walking around naked. Barry's balls. Barry the bear and his balls. You're at the party again. He shows up at the apartment building Christmas party. No Barry this is not Swinger's it's just a holiday party. Or maybe they were just watching the movie Swinger's but he wanted to do it naked. Super into John Faber.
Starting point is 00:09:16 That makes way more sense. Okay the subject line of this is my friend had dead bodies in her front yard not light hearted. Oh dear. Hello Karen and Georgia and friends. I've been listening to your minisodes all day and had to share this quite fucked up story with y'all. I live in a small town in Connecticut oh sorry then it's a story with you all.
Starting point is 00:09:35 There's no y'all in Connecticut. I live in a small town in Connecticut that from the outside just looks like the biggest scandal would be the Deborah wore the wrong tennis skirt to the country club. Fucking Deborah. Deborah. However the shit goes down. Deborah had been talked at my town's elementary school librarian and her husband had gone missing and soon the local paper wrote an article about it stating them as missing persons.
Starting point is 00:09:58 We were all kind of weirded out but thought hey if I was an elementary school librarian I'd probably want to get the hell out of dodge for a while also. Amen. A couple of weeks went by and there was no sign of them until their pickup truck was found at a park a park and ride off the highway with its window shattered sketchy. A couple days later my friend was driving home and was stopped by was stopped just at the top of her road by a shit ton of police officers. Side note everyone has that friend that bad and weird shit always happens to.
Starting point is 00:10:29 This is that friend. So true. Poor baby. She asked the officers what was up and they told her there was an investigation going on. When she got closer to her house there were even more police cars and a fucking helicopter flying overhead. They had found human remains in her fucking front yard.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Her front yard was connected on the side to a property with an abandoned house. So it wasn't directly in her front yard but her adjacent yard. But you get the idea. Shit. Anyway human remains. Totally. That's how it's written. Turns out the remains were the librarian and her husband.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Long story short they had a recycling business in the next town where their son also worked. He had been a drug addict and the librarian and her husband had just decided to cut him out of their will. Finally this dude got pissed, shot both his parents and decided to dump their bodies in my friend's front yard. Another side note. This yard is on the main road so I don't know what he was thinking but that was a poor choice if he was trying to get away with it.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I mean it's clear many poor choices. So many. From the beginning. Just a series of them. First one was them having a child. Don't ever do it. And then picking up that pipe he just smoked a really obnoxious tobacco pipe that was just irritating to look at.
Starting point is 00:11:43 To this day my friends and I will still bring up to my friend, hey remember when there were dead bodies in your front yard? Stay sexy and don't cut your psycho son out of your will or you will end up dead in a front yard. Hannah. I vey. Yeah. That's rough.
Starting point is 00:11:58 It's. Yeah. Really. I mean week after week we justify my choice not to have children. For real. Truly. Like that's what this podcast is. This podcast is basically two gals sending you the messages.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Time to wrap things down on this planet. Double up on your birth control. We're done here. Yeah. We're done. The earth is telling us we're done. We're telling each other we're done. They're signs.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Red flags. Earth is like red fucking flag. And we're like I don't know what that is. Is that pink? All of humanity is like we can't figure out new ways to kill each other. Okay. I think it's time to wrap it down. Okay here is.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Too dark. I haven't. Too bad. And you're on the wrong bucket. Helping my neighbor SSDGM. No care in Georgia Stephen and associated pets. Partly due to my true crime obsession I like to know who my neighbors are, which cars they drive and I always have an ear out in case anything is suspicious.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Okay. Yes. I am also a bit nosy. I kind of love that. Yeah. I was lying in bed. All right. I was lying in bed watching television one night when I heard a woman screaming that
Starting point is 00:12:57 didn't match the audio. Sure enough when I paused the show the screaming continued. Oh no. I immediately looked out my bedroom window which overlooks the parking lot of my apartment building. I recognized one of my neighbor's cars backing up while a shirtless man was holding onto the driver's door throwing punches into the window and attempting to pull the door open. I instantly opened my window and screamed, I'm calling the cops which I think I've yelled
Starting point is 00:13:20 that at fights before. Sure. I yelled the cops are coming. Just that's a good way to break shit up. Yeah. That's right. And the guy took off. I got dressed as fast as humanly possible and flew downstairs ran out and got her to
Starting point is 00:13:32 get out of the car and back into the building in case he came back where we immediately called 911. It turns out she had just gotten into the car and paused to turn her iPod on when out of nowhere this guy opened her door and tried to take her seatbelt off and pull her out of the vehicle. Jesus. Straight up grand theft auto style. She started reversing the car in an attempt to knock him off her and that's when I yelled
Starting point is 00:13:53 down. The police response was quick and they brought in dogs and a ton of cars. They ended up finding the guy a few blocks north. I'm so glad I heard the scream and was able to help and look out for a fellow young woman. Yeah. She was okay physically just extremely shaken up. SSDGM always help out when you can keep track of your neighbors and please, please lock your door as soon as you get into your vehicle.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Melissa. Yes. That's such a good point, Melissa. And it's really important. Just there's no reason not to. If you're in your car, you home base click. Always done. I'd like to I wanted to help Melissa to bring a weapon with you when you go downstairs to
Starting point is 00:14:28 help someone. I'm serious. Like I have pepper spray next to the door at all times and in my nightstand and in my purse and in my car. You're absolutely going to get arrested for misusing that pepper spray. I mean, I just spray out of the car window when I'm driving. It's really, really like the freeing and relaxing. No wonder I'm always in a bad mood on the highway.
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Starting point is 00:17:04 I'm so tired that I can't read. It's truly the tiredest it's ever been in here. It's fun. Hey all. I'm finally caught up with all the episodes and I'm surprised there aren't more stories from first responders or nurses. We had a little run there, but yeah, we haven't gotten a lot. Hey listen.
Starting point is 00:17:21 You finally caught up and then you're here to give your complaints? You're here to fucking say, here's what is it? Here's what's lacking? Here's what's missing in your podcast. I mean, thank you for all the feedback. We've seen some shit. That's very true. And most of us have a dark sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Also true. I'm fucking laughing at me attacking you. This story was a pivotal moment in my nursing career. I work in a trauma ICU. I had heard on the news earlier that day in a nearby small town a man shot his ex-wife, her boyfriend and his own daughter and that he was on the run. Thankfully all three lived. Oh good.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yes. Later that day the police were on a high speed chase with him and finally caught up. The shooter got out of the car, took his handgun and shot himself in the head. He did it right in front of the local hospital. So they were able to keep him alive and here's where I come in. Oh my God. The man was stabilized at the local hospital and transferred to me in the ICU at a larger hospital.
Starting point is 00:18:21 He had a through and through gunshot wound to the head, so no chance of recovery. But there was a chance we could still harvest his organs. So I worked on this man to keep him alive all night. He was on the ventilator along with other medications to keep him alive. Those with a weak stomach cover your ears. Oh my God. Oh my God. I'll give you a cover your ears pause.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Stephen cover your ears. Oh wait, his ears are already covered with headphones. He just burst into tears. I can't cover them anymore than I already have. This is just one sentence so you mute it for five seconds. Or say la la la really loud, okay go. This dude had brain matter coming out of his nose. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Okay. I was trying to keep alive a motherfucker that had just tried to kill three people including his own young daughter. It was really a bizarre experience for me. That's nursing though. You take care of the best people and the worst. A lot of the worst. I read that so weird.
Starting point is 00:19:15 That was amazing. A lot of the worst. This man was not an organ donor on his license, but his next of kin, his older daughter made the decision to make him an organ donor. Let's scrape that motherfucker clean. Yes. It was a small bit of justice that we were able to help people on the transplant plant list with his death.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Just become an organ donor. I agree. Yes. Please do. Yes. We're still in female. That was not me. That was not me.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Okay. But I agree. I won't go into too many details, but it is very rare that someone who passes in the hospital is even a candidate for organ donation. Love you guys and everything you do. Zee. Amazing. That's such a good point.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And it, you know, it took me so long. I was in my 20s when I became a donor and like just checked that little box. Yeah. And I didn't think of it as superstitious, you know, that thing of like, well, as soon as I do it, then I'm going to die. Something's going to happen to me or it's like, well, that doesn't exist. This world isn't even fucking real. Like everything is fine.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Just you're going to be a better person. Just put like click donor box. Yes. Nothing is real. Nothing's real. But also it just, um, there is a way you can be generous past instead of standing around fearing your own death. You can look at it in a different way, maybe just briefly and be like, this could actually
Starting point is 00:20:35 be. There are people who need spleens, eyeballs, livers and kidneys and livers probably. I don't know. Everything. And you know what else? It'll actually help your family after because they'll think of you positive, like then not as an asshole as you were in your life. I don't know where it goes.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It will make your family stop hating your guts, those stories, your literal guts because they'll be in someone else's fucking love, finally be able to love your guts, those stories of people who's like kid dies and but they get the organs and then they go get to go meet the person who has their son's heart. Unbelievable. And it's like, that's real. Yeah. That one video where the dad meets the boy with his daughter's heart is like, it really
Starting point is 00:21:17 is her still her heart. I know. It's the most beautiful thing of all time. She lived with it for, okay. Just give people your heart. Okay. I'm gonna, let's end on that one and then tell everyone our fucking surprise. Great.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Awesome. All right. Here it is. We get to finally announce this very exciting thing. It's our first original podcast for the Exactly Right Network. We've been working on it and we've been so excited to tell you, you guys are gonna fucking love this. Are you ready for this?
Starting point is 00:21:42 It is our new show. It's called Jensen and Holes, the Murder Squad. Guess what? Paul fucking Holes and Billy fucking Jensen, our friends are doing a podcast on our network. A true crime podcast. It's so exciting. It's every week they go through a cold case and then you can use your skills social and otherwise to do research and follow leads.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You're basically a citizen detective and so you get a help, you get a listen. It's gonna be incredible. These are two professionals who know what the fuck they're doing. Yeah. Going over cases, some of them are cases that are from Paul Holes' career that were cold and never got solved. Some are from Billy Jensen's career of being a true crime journalist. And there are interviews with people who are involved in the case.
Starting point is 00:22:25 It's really incredible. We're so honored to bring this and so happy that they let us help them. Yes. I hope I am. So you can go to themurdersquad.com. We're gonna play the trailer for it right now. It comes out April 1st, the first episode. We're so excited for this, obviously.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So for all the information, like finding out when does it subscribe and all the links and everything, just go to themurdersquad.com. And stay sexy. And don't get murdered. Here's the trailer. Goodbye. I'm Paul Holes. And I'm Billy Jensen.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Welcome to themurdersquad. All of a sudden, I realized I was in serious trouble. Literally felt a cold wind blow through the car and then he grabbed my arm. This is the last time anybody saw Denise and her daughter. And that's when he, you know, stopped dead in his track and got in my personal space and he said that that's none of my damn business. What else has he done? You've been listening, watching and reading true crime investigations for years.
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