My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark - MFM Presents: Ghosted! by Roz Hernandez - “Georgia Hardstark Sees a Ghost Coach”

Episode Date: July 25, 2023

My Favorite Murder presents the Exactly Right network premiere episode of Ghosted! by Roz Hernandez. Each week on Ghosted!, comedian Roz Hernandez (she/her) discusses ghost stories, psychic experiences and all things that go BUMP in the night along with celebrity guests, paranormal professionals and sometimes…GHOSTS! Human listeners are invited to share their paranormal experiences to be read aloud. Email them to [e-mail]. Now available on the Exactly Right network.This week, Roz is joined by Georgia Hardstark, iconic co-host of My Favorite Murder. She brings Roz housewarming gifts in the form of haunted speakers, summer camp apparition stories and estate sale etiquette tips.Follow Ghosted! by Roz Hernandez on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The show's on Instagram at @ghostedbyroz. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hello! Hey, have you heard about exactly right's newest podcast, Ghosted by Ros Hernandez? Well, you're about to. Ghosted by Ros Hernandez is a weekly paranormal comedy podcast where she and a guest discuss all things supernatural. And right now, we're thrilled to share the exactly right premiere episode with you, because it features a guest that you know and love. Oh, hey, wait, that's me! That's right, it is.

Georgian Raws are talking haunted dolls, state sales, and all sorts of ghostly topics. Also, sometimes Raws reads ghost stories that listeners send her, so be sure to email yours to ghosted by Raws at Gmail. And when you're done listening to Georgia's episode, you can head over to the ghosted by Raws Hernandez podcast feed and listen to the next episode of the show

with none other than the hilarious busy Phillips. And while you're there, don't forget to follow, rate, and review, and listen to the next episode of the show with none other than the hilarious busy Phillips. And while you're there, don't forget to follow, rate, and review, and remember, you can listen early on Amazon Music, or early and add free by subscribing to Wendry Plus in the Wendry app. Goodbye! Goodbye! What's that at the foot of my bed? It's spooky and cute, I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

Wait a minute, hey, I'm ghosted! I was blinded. Please, please, please. Hey, boo! It's me, Roz. Hey Boo! It's me, Roz. Welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez. Oh, how I have missed you, but if you're new around here. Hey, let me introduce myself.

You're probably saying, who is that shouting at me? What am I listening to? Ghosted by what? Huh? Huh? Well, I'm Ros Hernandez. I am a comedian. I'm based in Los Angeles. If you don't believe me, go to my Instagram. It's at Ros Hernandez. You'll see, there's clips and everything. I'm transgender. I use she, her pronouns. I am a retired drag queen. I used to go by the name Ross Dres Files the bargain bin beauty. Yeah, I'm a local entertainer and gal about town here in Hollywood. And because of that, I know all kinds of characters. And I have them come here on this podcast because one more fact about me, I am obsessed with the paranormal.

I grew up in a house that I believe was haunted by the spirit of my dear loving grandmother. And then, you know, I've had several ghostly experiences over the years, and then cut to 2019. I started doing this very podcast because I wanted to dig a little deeper. I wanted to just learn a little bit more about this stuff and talk to more people that have also had these kinds of experiences that they can explain. It's been a journey for me, both in my personal life and spiritually and my thoughts on all this stuff. I started out not knowing a whole lot, but I had a very open mind, and now I consider myself a paranormal, enthusiast, investigator, researcher, all that kind of stuff. On this show, I talk to mainly comedians, but also some of your favorite celebrities.

I have on people that dedicate their lives to the study of the paranormal, and I even have on you, the listeners. Recently, I took a three-month hiatus from the show. I was trapped in a TV like Carol Anne from the Poltergeist. It was crazy and then I was brought back to the light by exactly right. And honey, this feels like the perfect home for what I do. And it is now a haunted home over here. Now, like my favorite murder, this podcast gets deep. We talk about death, but ultimately, it is a comedy show for people that like things a

little bit weird. My approach to the paranormal might not be the most orthodox or highly intellectual, but at this point, I consider what I'm doing here a research project. Okay. This podcast is like one big public survey of people and their beliefs and their experiences with the other side. I like to talk to people from all walks of life. Sometimes, I even on this show talk to straight cisgender men.

And as a paranormal investigator, I am a nosy bitch. Okay. I like to get into dead people's business. I like to laugh. I definitely like to view things through a queer lens. I try to be unbiased the best that I can. My main belief for this stuff is it is called the unknown for a reason. Because it's unknown, nobody actually knows what any of this stuff is and that is the fun of it. I like to leave it up to you, the listeners, to sort

of make up your own mind on any of this. Now here's the thing. We all have one thing in common and that is that spoiler alert. We're all going to die one day. So let's have a good time talking about what happens when it's over. And if you don't believe in the paranormal, hey, that's fine too. Personally, I do not have any agenda to turn anyone into a believer. Frankly, I'm a little skeptical of it myself. I find it very curious though that so many people have these experiences that cannot be explained. It almost makes you think that there might be something there. You might notice that the more you listen to this show.

So I wanna hear from you. It is essential to me to have an audience of people that are a part of this conversation. So please send me your stories to my email address, which is ghostedbyra Ross at gmail.com. That's ghosted by r-o-z at gmail.com. Also, I have a brand new Instagram for the show, which is at ghosted by Ross. And there you will find different visual elements from

each episode. If we talk about something like we want you to see, that's a great place to go. See that. So please follow Ghosted by Ross on Instagram. Anyway, I say we get into this show. Join me every single Monday here on exactly right. I'm going to be talking about poltergeist possessions, extraterrestrials, cryptid creatures, synchronicities, psychic experiences, all that kind of shit. And of course, goves. All right, here we go. Episode one of my new relaunch. I have been brought back from the dead by exactly right, and it's going to be in exactly fright.

I cannot believe who I am joined by today. This is major for me. I have been a fan of hers for years now, such a huge inspiration to me in the podcasting world. And she's got all of them. Now my boss, I guess, which is an insane thing to say. Georgia Heart Stark will be on the show today from of course my favorite murder. Hurt of it. Yeah I thought so. So here we go on with the show. You guys, I'm about to say some words that I have wanted to say since I started this podcast,

I am joined by an icon of podcasting Georgia Heart Star. Hello. Oh my goodness. Thank you. Hi. I'm so happy to be here. Ross. Georgia, I have wanted to talk to you for so long. You and Karen are such inspirations to me and what I do. And I've always admired the way that you

guys keep things fun and funny, but also like you're dealing with stuff that is macaque and serious. And do you have any advice for me on that? Whatever I say to someone, when I say what kind of podcast is it? And I say true crime and comedy. And I always have to say, but the comedy is not about the cases.

Comedy is that Karen and I exchange, you know, funny quips about ourselves, about life, about the horribleness that happens in life, not about the victim, never about the crime that's affected so many people and, you know, devastated so many people. So I think you stay funny, you stay laughing, but take what serious serious. And I think that that'll just come naturally because you're an empathetic person. Right. Which I think people get it wrong a lot of the time when they're like, my task right now is to make jokes about dead people. And it's like, well, but we're not like making fun of dead people. That's not really now.

There is a difference between murder and paranormal. And there's a lot less fact. And it's a little bit more open to interpretation. And that's all the things here. Yeah, you've got it good. You've got it good. Yeah, I imagine that what you guys deal with is not easy to keep fun and light-hearted, but somehow you figured it out. Well, you figured out the topic because when we do have like paranormal like ghost stories that we talk about, or like anything old-timey,

it's just it's easier to talk about when it's old-timey. And I feel like so much paranormal stuff is kind of old-timey. So you just pick the right path is what I'm saying and I'm telling. It's definitely old-timey, which makes me, it makes me think very skeptically. I always try to approach this stuff very skeptically and I'm sort of my approach is always like let's weigh out all the options that could be explanations and if we can't find anything, then that's the good stuff. But so many of these iconic stories are from like not now. And I'm always like, why are things from now?

Is it because back then people were like, oh, something weird happened. It must have been Satan or it must have been. The Beirots, I don't know. It just seemed like the way past 100 years ago, even 50 years ago, was way much more susceptible to paranormal stuff. People were way more open to spiritual,

that crossover with spirituality and real life, which I think it's true. You're on your phone. You can explain a way so much now with technology. And actually something happened to me, not that long ago, that I just want to explain away with technology, because it was so freaky. Okay. Well, personally, I don't know anything about technology. So all of it to me

is paranormal. Like literally, if you think about what is Wi-Fi, I don't know what that is. And so, like, I imagine that 100 years ago, if you tried to explain it, they would be like, yeah, that's superpowers. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so what happens to you? Okay, so we moved to this new house and it's old. It's, I mean, it's LA old, so it's like from the 30s, you know what I mean?

But it has all the elements of what would think a haunted LA house would look like. It's got the creepy basement. Okay. In a couple of rooms, there's like a panic, an old panic button. I guess there was like an old-timey panic alarm in there. It's just got these elements, you know? Like, okay. A ghost child would live in here.

Totally. Do you know the history? Uh, it's not interesting. Yeah, it's just like people owned it. See, but that's the thing. Sometimes, sometimes the good stuff is never recorded. Right. Who knows what's happened?

Or like the ground it was built on. Like, what the fuck happened there, you know what I mean? Exactly. We stole all this land from these indigenous people. That could be it. Yeah. But I don't totally believe or want to believe in ghosts. So I was like this house isn't haunted. And we'll know pretty quickly if it is. So one night then my husband was out and I got into bed. It was kind of like 11 o'clock at night. And suddenly from downstairs, music starts blasting. And I was like, o'clock at night. And suddenly from downstairs,

music starts blasting. And I was like, did I leave the TV on? What is that? Like getting up out of bed to check on something if it's haunted is like a horror movie that you don't do. But I had to do it because there's music blasting from downstairs. What was the music?

It was fucking the least scary music, Thank God. It was Elton John. Oh, okay. Well, what was it? The bitch is back because that's a ghost song for sure. It's a ghost. For sure. It wasn't that. It was some... I can't remember what song it was exactly, but it was like a happy, go lucky song. It wasn't like terrible. So I go down and in my living room, the sonos are like, you know, wireless speaker is just on blasting Elton John for no fucking reason. I don't even have it like on my phone, the app on my phone. Yeah, that would be a ghost. Right. And I go over to unplug it. And I'm like, if I unplug this and it keeps playing, I'm moving out tonight. So I like slowly unpluggedged it and it stopped playing. Thank God. And it hasn't happened again

But technology right like someone a neighbor the Wi-Fi that mysterious Wi-Fi got switched right and they wanted to listen to Sam Elton John Let's pretend it's that because otherwise Leave a ghost. I don't know. Yeah, I think it's a ghost. You do. You caught yourself there for like, you said, you don't believe or you don't want to believe. Yeah. Tell me about this. Well, I don't want to live my life walking to the bathroom every night being scared out of my mind

to pee in the middle of the night. Like that to me is just not how I want to live my life. And how I used to live my life as a kid. I think all of us, you know, we're scared of the idea of ghosts as kids. I still do. I have no reason to believe that my place is haunted. And I do get up to pee every single night and I look around.

Yeah. Or like, you feel like you're being chased to the bathroom kind of or something. So stupid. I just don't want to live like that. And I easily could. So I've told my, and I also think that like, people who are more open to it are more susceptible to weird things happening because I kind of do believe in the supernatural so to not have it happening me I just block it out all together. Here's the good news for you

and I've talked about this a billion times on the show but you have a podcast that a lot of people listen to ghost don't want to be on a podcast. I have tried so hard because I need the content. They're not going to be interested. They're going, no, not her. She's going to talk about us.

Maybe they haven't caught up to the technology and they don't even, like they don't know that they should be haunting influencers and podcasters because that's like how they actually get, you know, those brand deals and attention. Yeah. And the other thing too is like having cats, like they'll tell you when something is off. Oh yeah. So if my cats are sleeping happily at night and not like freaking out about something invisible in the corner, then I'm fine. If one of my cats was staring at the wall meowing and like freaking out about something invisible in the corner, then I'm fine. If one of my cats was staring at the wall, meowing and like freaked out, I wouldn't get up to pee. I know, that's when you burn the house to the ground and leave.

Right, right. I feel like I'm just like justifying so many reasons to not believe in it because I'm scared of it, You know, I try so hard to not view this stuff as scary. Like so what is there is like some old lady that loved that house and she just hangs out and wants to watch you go to the bathroom. Big deal. That's my creepy. Yeah, I'm not you know, when I say to the house, it's and I kind of have this thing where I tell the house, I'm here and this is my intention is when I first moved into a new house or apartment. My intention is to be happy, like be happy and love this house.

I love the old LA architecture, like I've lived in the old apartments and my grandma had an old house. You know, and so it's just, I think my intentions with the house are good. And I do think that the history of the house is kind of absorbed in the walls and time isn't linear. So maybe all the, you know, like that, what was that movie with a cool kidman? The others. The others. Like that to me is a possibility that we're like living on the same plane of existence as all of time. And you're the ghost. And I'm the ghost. So I should be polite.

They're probably scared to eat. You're the one always talking about murder. I don't know about this girl. Yeah. That's true. That's true. So tell me about your first experience that you believe could have been paranormal. Okay. Well, I have this handful of experiences that happen when I was a kid.

Give them all to me. Okay. It was between like five years old and eight or so. I've kind of just carried them with me throughout my life without being able to explain what really happened, but explaining them away, because I don't believe in a ghost showing up. I don't know, it's just weird. Okay, so the first one, and this is Orange County.

Unfortunately, yes, it's Orange County, probably the least haunted place. Which part? Irvine. Okay. So it doesn't even go back farther than like 79. So I don't think ghosts were hanging out in the orange groves. See, but that's what people, that's a misconception though.

Like we always think that old equals goes, which, you know, to me, to a ghost has been around for a long time. They're probably exhausted. They would, why, why would that make something more haunted? Like that's so, it's a long time to be a ghost. So I think that a lot of times it's like, could be, you so, it's a long time to be a ghost. So I think that a lot of times, it's like, it could be, you know, it could not even be a dead person. It could just be something. It could be spirit. Something that, you know, wafed it over from Disneyland randomly. I don't know.

Well, do you also, I don't know, I kind of subscribe to the idea that certain people are more susceptible because I have a friend who like, every how she lives and ever where she goes, there's something weird happening and the electronics always fail and go wonky and stuff. And it's just like, well, she's haunted. She's a she's a conduit to the spirit world more than most people are because she's open to it. Well, or it could just be that she's got magic powers of some sort. And I'm not even like joking when I say that. I think that, you know, a lot of times, polter guys are from what people study. The consensus is it's more so telekinesis coming out of one person. Yeah. And people think, oh, it's the house. Well, when you keep moving to a different place,

you know, you got telekinesis or something, carry, get it together, or you're not going to get your deposit back, because you throw in furniture around all the time. Right. Because blood's coming out of the wall, and you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, I like that idea.

I mean, even just if you think about, it's not a ghost. It's just like leftover energy from a person's life or from, you know, a dynamic thing that happened. If you wanna like look into what the soul is and what it means and I don't know. I sound wacky to do to myself, but I also, I'm like, stand by it. It's like when someone wears too much cologne

and you like go in a date with them and then you come home and you're like They're in my nose. They're like still here and I do think that that energetically can happen as well Yeah, and if you have a better sense of spell you're gonna be more attuned to that stink There it is. You're around. Oh my god. We figured it out I think. But also, I think it can be from the living. I think that, like some bad energy, someone gets into a fight or something, that can stick around. Totally. Well, they say that when you are near someone who's going through a stressful time, you

absorb some of their pheromones, they're stressed out pheromones. It's just because that's how we learn to survive, you know, as animals is to be attuned to what's going on around us. If someone else is freaking out, then maybe, you know, it's because there's a lion close by and we need to, you know, I mean, I'm talking about thousands of years ago, obviously,

but suck if there's a lion, you know, around now. But so you kind of are attuned to that if you're an empathetic person, if you're not a sociopath, you know, around now. But so you kind of are attuned to that if you're an empathetic person, if you're not a sociopath, you know. And the way that we've evolved, we ignore those things a lot of the times where other animals are like, something bad's here, I'm getting out,

or whatever, and we're just like, something bad's here, eh, whatever. You know, who doesn't ignore those things is children because they don't know yet how to process the world. So they don't know they're not supposed to be believing in past lives and ghosts and you know, all the creepy things that kids say. Yeah. We get a lot of hometowns of like my daughter knew my grandmother as her imaginary friend and had never met. I love that shit so much, which is why so the things that happened to me as a kid,

I'm kind of like maybe my imagination was more susceptible. So the first thing that happened was, I was like five years old. I'm laying in bed at night in my bunk bed and we had like, you know, mirrored closets that what it's called when they push like a sliding door. Like a sliding, we push like a sliding door, like a sliding door closet in here. And I'm lying in bed,

like just kind of thinking at late a night, it's dark staring at the closet. I've always had insomnia. And the fucking closet opens just a little like a foot on its own. And I know it wasn't an animal because we didn't have cats yet because when I ran into my parents' room, my parents were still married and we didn't have cats until after my dad moved out around five years old.

So it wasn't a cat or anything like that. So it just hit open by itself. Yeah, weird. And then a couple, maybe like when I was like six or seven, lying in bed, again in my bunk bed on the top level, just kind of daydreaming or maybe I'd like six or seven, lying in bed, again, in my bunk bed on the top level, just kind of daydreaming or maybe I've been reading or something. And then I see a figure pop up from like the side of the bed and like kind of just look to scare me. And I'm like, oh, that must be my brother because he was always fucking around. And I look down, first of all, the door is

closed to my bedroom and my brother's not in the room. So I had seen and I definitely saw a figure pop up and it wasn't a fully formed figure. It was definitely like ghosty, transparent. And I just totally couldn't explain it. And I still can't. There's no gas leak in the house. That's my first thing, is there a fucking gas leak? Because you're going crazy or you don't do a fever and your

brain is playing tricks on you. Oh my gosh. Okay. I don't like stuff when I'm in bed. Bed to me is like safe space, bed and bathroom. Like it should be off limits always. But definitely. Okay. Well, I still remember getting the courage up to run to my parents' room that first time passed the closet because I had to go down the stairs from my bunk bed and run out past the closet. And I just remember lying there being like, you can do this, you can do this, get out of here.

Good for you, though. I didn't stop and save my sister and wake her up from below. I was like, let the ghosts have her. Yeah. stop and save my sister and wake her up from below. I was like, let the ghost have her. Yeah. So do you recall your parents or anyone else in the family also having experiences or have they told you sense? No, no one else has, but my mom always believed in it a lot. Like, she always encouraged the fact that like Georgia sees spirits. Isn't it creepy? Like, she was

on board with it. And I think she believed in some stuff like she went to a psychic a few times and saying like if you make up a story about a stranger like half the time it's true, like the intuition is there and just kind of she's got the woo-woo stuff for sure going on. And so she believed it. She believed it. Like you have that? No, but I feel like maybe as a kid, I was more susceptible to it. I feel like I'm good at reading people's emotions and tapping into that, but not, you know.

And I like to question reality a lot. I think that's really fun, but I try so hard to have a scientific mind, you know. But it's fun, like who cares? I don't believe in astrology, but I'll still read my second horoscope. Literally same. I don't know about any,

and I just had a friend that was doing the whole like, what time were you born and like all of that? And I'm like, here we go, let's do it. And I'm like, yeah, tell me everything about me. It did say that I'm not going to be famous. So I was like, it truly didn't even ask for whatever, but I'm interested in hearing about it. Yeah, exactly.

This will be a challenge for you to prove astrology wrong. You know what I mean? I always love a good challenge. Exactly. Well, that's all this is. I check this shit every morning. And like, sometimes, here's the trick. Don't be too specific with it. Right. I'll have some where I'll wake up and it'll be like today's the day you're going to fall in love. Oh, like it all changes today. So enjoy you're going to meet

that special someone. It's like just say I'm going to have a good day or something. And then I can go, wow, it was right. But like, yeah, like they we want fake, which I think is why it's so important to find the website or the writer who gives the astrology readings that you like. Especially because it's free. Right. Now, these psychics that you pay for, like that's a different story. I'm like, tell me what this person's going to look like that I'm going to fall in love

with. Totally. And all of that. Have you been to a psychic? I haven't been to a psychic, but I've done my tarot cards a couple times. I like it. I think it's cool and exciting, but it's, you know, always been so vague

that it's almost like I can't pinpoint any one thing that I'm like supposed to do or should be living my life in this way because of it. But it is cool and it's always positive when I do it. So that's good. Or I think it's just the suggestion of this card says you need to make a change in your life or a big change is coming.

And you know internally if that's actually true, I think I went right before I was definitely gonna break up with someone and it was like a change is coming and it's a positive change and you should do it. And I was like, it's about breaking up with this person and like kind of, you know, caused me to do it sooner than if I hadn't had that probably. Yeah, I always like it when you're on the fence

and you're like, you know, this thing is saying I should do it or not do it or whatever. Like I think it's a fun little confirmation. Totally. I think it's the best time to go is when you're on the fence about something. And that's the good thing about tarot. Because I do like tarot. And I think that is a nice thing about it is that you can interpret it like, you know, different ways. And some people are really good with their intuition, interpreting it accurately or whatever, but I'm into the tarot.

I pull those things out when I'm like, what should I do? I'm sure, Steph, that's great. I love that. I kind of want to do that too, but I don't know how to read them. No, I don't either. I have no clue, but I just Google each card.

And it tells you like, what, all right, yeah. I could do that. Or I also live in LA so I've got 4,000 people I can call that and sometimes I will call eight different people and go okay this is what I got and they're gonna go one goes that's oh that's not good and then the next one oh my gosh that's amazing so it's like who next one, oh my gosh, that's amazing. So it's like, who knows? You got to vibe with your reader for sure. Yeah, if it's like, I went to one one and it was like some, you know, 21-year-old gal who like, bless her heart, but yeah, it's like, I want someone like who's been around reading tear cards for a lot, has a lot of experience with it and has seen it all. That's what I'm telling you what to do with my life.

Yeah, you have to have a ring on all 10 fingers for me to take you seriously when it comes to that kind of a thing. The third time that the ghosty thing happened was a similar experience to that person or that spirit. I'll call it for lack of a better term popping up. Apparition. Let's call it that. Okay.

I was lying in bed and I saw an apparition of a spirit like on the ceiling like pointing at me. Just it's like a split second, but it's like, it was there. It was definitely there. It wasn't just my imagination, because I have a wild imagination and that doesn't fucking happen ever.

Now hang on. So you're on the top of the top floor of a bunk bed. This is a regular bed, the same as I was at camp. And yeah. Oh, so this isn't even associated with the pop up one. Okay. So could you tell what this person or whatever it looked like?

Could with their features? Yeah, it was an older man who almost had like a coach, he was the coach of a sports team vibe, you know? Okay. And he was pointing at me and he looked very angry. Hard start, get in there. Hard start. Yeah.

I don't know what that means or what it was, but it's definitely scared me because he looked so angry. Like the one that popped up at my bunk bed seemed like there was like fun happy vibes going on there. And it just kind of scared me. But this was like this angry. God, I feel like this is why I don't talk about this. I feel like I sound loopy. Not here. Not here. Okay, save space.

That's what I love so much about this is that. Yeah. There's an audience of people that are like, yeah, I'm on board. Like we're not just like saying this out in the air. I think sometimes, yeah, you can say this stuff and people are like, okay, and they're we're talking to George again. Right. Right. Which is why I always say like, oh, but I don't believe in ghosts anymore. But it's like, well,

I would love it if someone listening were like interpret what happened and like acknowledge or somehow like a firm that what I saw was like a, you know, some kind of little trip into the, you know, supernatural world. But I don't know. I want to believe it, so bad, but I, you know, my brain can't allow that. It's possible that since it is scary, you turned your, you know, self-off to that, and like,

I'm, I am scared of this stuff, which is so dumb, because, well, no, it's human, it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but considering the fact that my job is talking about these things, you would think that I wouldn't be so damn scared, but I really think that sometimes when I go ghost hunting with people or ghost stay at a haunted you know hotel or whatever. Oh my god. It's like yeah I want stuff to happen but I'm

secretly at like please don't. Please. Has something ever has has ever been a moment where like it it pushed you to like this is real and I was you know no one can talk me like, this is real. And I was, you know, no one can talk me out of this being real. Yes, I've got a list that has grown. And you know, I took off a couple of months of this podcast. And I'm going to talk about it when the time is right. But I have had multiple experiences that I was not the only witness for, that I do not have any explanation for. And that is what we call for shadowing. I'll talk about it later. I love it. That's what you want is for someone else to have experienced it as well. It's like so annoying when you're alone. I know my husband, like, he and some friends

have this story of seeing an UFO, you know, not saying it was alien, just unidentified, flying object, hovering, and they all fucking saw it. And, you know, that way you can't talk yourself out of it. You're not bananas. And it wasn't a drone. This is before drones. So I live how you broke it down with it was unidentified, which I'll be honest with you. And this entire time I've been talking to you, I've just been revealing how little I know about anything. I don't know anything about technology. I don't know anything about airplanes. I don't know anything about any of that. So I can identify half the damn shut up there. So technically most of these things are not identifiable to me. Right.

But you don't do you believe in aliens and spaceships and do you think they visited our planet? Yes. I do. Okay. My stance overall on all of this stuff is why not everything. Why not everything? Why not everything? Why not everything?

Anything is possible. But I am very convinced when I look into that kind of stuff. That yeah, of course there's other people or life or whatever, it's not just us. Right. And I do think that they are so much smarter than us and that they come in peace because they could probably make us just disappear instantly.

So I think that we are like, honestly, the bad neighborhood of the galaxy. And they probably want to help us, but they're like, you know what, it's we're good. They'll just kill us all stay away from those earthers. Yeah, and it's like sometimes for whatever reason they come over here and check in on us, they laugh at us. They I have always had a theory that it's teenage aliens taking their parents UFO to go to the bad part of town. They come down here to go to our raves and then exactly.

That's it. I love that. That or that reality is a simulation. Those are things I can totally get behind. Oh, I think that's a fine. That starts to trip me out. I'm really into like the Reddit has like blip in the matrix, you know, a page where everyone just tells their stories of their blips,

things that happened or things I saw that like, doesn't make sense, you know, like more than coincidences. I fucking love that shit. I've been having anything like that ever happen to you. I mean, other than like thinking about someone and they call, like my sister and I have that obviously like really strong bond of like thinking and feeling the same things, I have a friend that just we are so in sync.

My friend Kate, when we're so in sync with reaching out to each other and being on this, you know, in the same place or worrying about each other when something, you intuitively send something's going on with them. So that stuff is, I think, really interesting to me, but I've never had anything like, I accidentally stepped through the matrix and time traveled for five seconds. That kind of thing. But I love that.

See, you are psychic, I think. Really? I don't know. I mean, I think we all are. I think it's definitely a spectrum. I think. Really? I don't know. I mean, I think we all are. I think it's definitely a spectrum. I think so too. Yeah. But I always think about like people that fall in love

or you and Karen coming together and creating what you have. Like stuff like that is something. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, again, I'm trying, I am so skeptical all the time that it's like, I don't believe in fate.

But there are those things that happen in your life that have more meaning than other experiences. And I think a lot about like, what if I hadn't gone to this party where I met my husband or what if I hadn't like made this one decision and hadn't met Karen or just these little things that I think about all the time because you don't believe in fate. Oh, please. I know. I know. I know the type of person you are with this kind of stuff, which is like secretly do you believe in it, but

want to like not just, yeah, don't give it too much energy. Totally. Like, I want some healthy skepticism to go with my unhealthy obsession. Yeah. You know? So, did you have any other experiences as a kid? I mean, other than that, there's like a couple little things that I feel like I can explain away with like the light, the trick of the light or something going on

but then it just kind of stopped happening and went away. Did you ever look up if that summer camp has like the legend of coach Johnson? I'll find out. I should look it up. I mean it was was a Jewish camp, so it'd probably just be like an angry grandfather, you know. But he looked like a coach. But he looked like a coach. No whistle around his neck or anything. No. Just not that vibe.

Yeah. Like in my childhood brain, it was like coach. I can, you know, identify this person. I was like, seemingly coach-esque. Yeah. That's so interesting. Okay. And it's also like, why did he appear to did he appear to you like maybe it was just an anxiety

I was having and it was my imagination, you know That's not fun though That's not a good way to I don't believe that everything is like you know, I do you know, I believe it I'm also like why do why can some ghost float? Like, how does that happen? The floating thing is definitely like something we've assigned ghosts for sure. And why are they like always old timey? Not well, yeah, you're right. I know I've seen people I've talked about those over

the years and people love to send me memes of other people saying this kind of a thing too, with like, why don't you ever see like a juicy couture ghost from the 2000s? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Maybe you don't get your spiritual wings for 50 years or something like that.

You don't get it like, you're not allowed to haunt. You have to like go through some training. That could be. So by the time it had like, they'll be juicy couture ghosts, but it won't be until like 2060. Right. When it becomes, yeah, more of like a,

ooh, it was so spooky she had juicy couture on. And shit is old timey juicy couture sweat pants on. Yeah, but like, yeah, because now it's like ghosts are always like, oh, they had like a lace uh creepy lace dress. Right not like she had butterfly clips in her hair. The good cheesy face. She had like the thong coming up like the whale tail. Like she had a belly button ring with a jewel on the end of it. It was so creepy. the end of it. It was so creepy. Oh my God. Well, speaking of fashion and ghosts, can I show you a haunted eBay doll? Apps of fucking Lulee, please. Okay. Do you know about this

phenomenon? Now tell me. Okay. So people love to go to eBay.com. They also do it on Etsy, honestly anywhere, Craig's list. They love to sell their items, particularly dolls that they claim are haunted. Wow. Or psychic, they always have these stories attached to them. Sometimes the stories really give you the details about who the ghost inside of this doll is. That's cool.

I mean, as someone who goes to a state sales, I have seen some fucking creepy dolls and artifacts from people's lives that could absolutely be haunted. Okay. I'm going to keep my eye out for you next to state sale of ghost because I'm on all those mailing lists. Oh my god, I love it. I show up. I love a state sales so much. so much. And those can be creepy. You know, I always

like to remind myself that it doesn't always mean that a person has died. Sometimes they're downsizing, sometimes whatever. But I've been to some before where it's like, oh, there was a person living here and that will not. And their skin cells are everywhere. Ew! I, I do, I do, so I do love estate sales. I love all things like vintage and old-timey. Like I'm obsessed with that stuff. When I go to estate sales, I try to be very, like polite about the fact that I'm going through

someone's entire life and I have felt really sad about it before that I'm just like picking things from someone's existence that meant something to them. So I try very picky with what I buy because I want it to mean something to me too. I don't want to get rid of it in two years when it's not my style anymore or whatever. So like the things I own are probably imbued

with some of that person's history and life. Yeah. Maybe spirituality, I don't know. So maybe items can be haunted in a way. And let me ask you, those speakers that played Elton John, were those brand new? Yeah, that was a brand new, new technology. I mean, maybe it was from the like- They would have been returned

mid 20 mid like 2010s. So maybe somebody bought them, died when they fell on top of them and then then their relatives returned it because they had the receipt still. Right. While listening to Elton John, I did take my mom to a state sale once, which was a huge mistake because she went up to the seller and asked about a person who had lived there and came back and told me this whole sad story about how that person had died. And I was like, Mom, you're not supposed to know this. You're supposed to suspend your disbelief a little bit and be like, this person lived a beautiful, happy, long long life and you know, diadabled age and the stuff they left behind, their children had picked her to take something meaningful

to them. So this is okay. And I just told her to never fucking do that again because it was just ruin the whole thing for me. And the one thing I bought, I always thought of this guy, this poor guy, because I knew what half I won't say, it's terrible, but I knew it happened to him So that's yeah, I think it's usually best to not know Just ignore that ignore if there's crime scene tape on the ground of an outline of a body just walk over it There was a one estate so they went to where so when I'd live there for a very long time You can tell if someone old had lived there. And on the back of their closet door, they had started taking notes of the dates.

They had started feeling their symptoms. Oh, wow. So headaches start. This happened. Hedic today fell at this, you know, and it was so eerie. Am I finding to me, this is like ghost adjacent or is it? No, it is. I'm, but, but also living here in LA, sometimes there will be the most

interesting, like former porn director from that, that hasn't brought a new item since the 70s. Yeah. And it's like, like that kind of stuff is fun. Alex Trebek had like that big giant sail. And so I find that people who are Jewish have a lot of good stuff Jewish. So like, we tend to save everything.

So if this is an old Jewish person, you're gonna find a lot of good stuff. The antiques. Antique. Okay, sorry, go on about the doll. Okay. It's time for a segment I like to call. The dolls are li-b-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be-be- She is starting out at $53 for the bidding. Okay.

Reasonable. $69 if you wanted to buy her now. Everybody welcome Rita. Oh my God. Wow, she looks like Kristen Wiggs character in SNL when she has the tiny hands. Yeah. It is.

Oh wow. That wonky eyes doing it for me. She does have, yeah, one eye open, like that Metallica song. Which is a great touch. I think having no eyes is probably the best. Because, you know, I always say this is about marketing here. You're trying to sell a spooky doll. So totally. I'm always like either remove the eyes or glue one shot, you know, yeah, yeah. She does have one eye open. She's got, she's got those drawn on eyebrows, which yeah, many of us have had a phase where we draw our eyebrows on.

Yeah, I had those. I had those in the late 90s for sure. Yes. Yeah, she definitely plucked away in the 90s and now draws them on a little high. And then of course, she's got on lace, which is very important for a haunted doll. So what's her story? Well, this one in particular doesn't have a huge backstory as much as it tells you about Rita. So now let's keep in mind that the way that, who are they play this on eBay,

is that there's a spirit inside of this vessel. It's not necessarily the doll that we're talking about. So we're talking more so about the ghost that comes with it. Though there is always a disclaimer that says, legally we are not allowed to sell intangible items or so. Oh my God, yeah. They can't sell you a ghost, but essentially that's what they're doing here Okay, it says meet 10-year-old Rita

I love that name She has attached herself to this doll vessel. She is a big beautiful life-like doll vessel that quote wants a lot of attention. Same. She is a rare paranormal doll that is 21 inches tall. She has a music box in her and it plays as it plays, her head and her arms move and her eyes open and close. Oh, okay. So they just caught her mid eye opening. Mid-wish. She does, you know, her arms move and her eyes open. Okay. Good for her. I mean, nothing is creepier than a music playing a movable doll because it's going to start playing and moving in the middle of the fucking night with how. Oh, of course. Especially if it's possessed. You would hope. I mean, if you're going to be paying

for 53 dollars, I want to be scared out of my fucking mind. It says lots of bumps in the night with this one. She loves the paranormal and was very active almost immediately. She can be a great companion. She is so much fun to work with. To work with. Oh, I guess, I mean, they mean like to investigate or whenever

I don't think she's a coworker. You can just feel the presence and warmth flowing from her. She likes to flicker the lights on and off and she likes playing with the voice spirit box which is like a paranormal investigation device. Oh yeah, yeah. She has been tested personally by me with three different methods. And she's very active. Okay. So would you for $53 purchase Rita?

Listen, having grown up, having way too young of an age watched Chuckie. Child, that's why. There's no fucking way. having way too young of an age watched Chuckie. Child, that's why. There's no fucking way. Like I've been, I've been to many estate sales and never bought a doll. I mean, not because it's also not my style, but Chuckie, man, that thing scared the ever-loving shit

of having me as like an eight-year-old. So no. But I wouldn't. Should you see Chuckie's a little bit unfair because that is an actual serial killer inside of a doll And so yes, of course it's terrifying, but Like you know if you think about toy story, those are just like nice dolls that come alive. That's true But how do you know what you've got? There's something sinister about a doll

Well, this person tested three different methods. And they can tell you that she is very sweet. But maybe Rita's just looking for the right person to haunt. And so she's like, I feel like it's there's some sinister stuff going on underneath this spasad of lace and eye movement. Now, okay. Being the level of skepticism that you're at, if somebody was to be like, all right, Georgia,

just one week with this doll next to your bed, would you, so you're the type of person that would assume, like, no, I'm not taking that chance. I would do it to prove to myself that everything is fine. Okay, put your address in the chat and we're gonna make this happen. Well, someone did once send us this vintage, like, 1976 or 1970s clown doll that was like,

I remember they gave it to us at a show, but it was like a raggedy and type of doll that was a clown. Okay. But on one side had a happy face, and when you turn the clown over, the other side was like the most devastatingly sad, terrifying face you've ever seen. So it was like happy sad clown. And we just like left it at the office and refused to keep it.

And I think we eventually like sent it to a listener. That's what she wanted it. Because neither of us would take it home. None of us would. It was terrifying. So I guess in some level, I do, but I wouldn't have taken it home. Yeah. That's where I'm at with a lot of things. Like a lot of these uneven, I'm like, girl, first of all, the people that sell stuff on here don't assume that there's somebody like me that checks these listings every day and keeps track of who's going for what. And I know the market honey. And they sometimes the same seller will copy and paste the same story on a different now.

Like, this is not real most of it. That being said, what I want one of these in my house? No, absolutely not. No, the bedside table, I want one of these in my house, no, absolutely not. No, the bedside table, I just think I'd have to pass for sure. Okay, so that's understandable. That tells you everything you need to know about my beliefs, I guess. Well, that'll wrap up that part of the show. Now, here's another thing I like to do with all my guests.

I like to play my guest ghost voices. Sound good to you? Abs of fucking literally fucking it's time for EVP or EV please Have you ever heard the term EVP?

Mm-hmm. It stands for electronic voice phenomenon which is basically What they call anytime a ghost is recorded on audio. It could be from any kind of recording device really. And people particularly ghost hunters, sometimes just, you know, people will capture one. And they put them up on eBay, TikTok, wherever on the internet. And I like to find a few. We'll listen to them together. And I like to find a few,

we'll listen to them together and I want you to guess exactly what the ghost hunter believes it is saying. Okay. So this first one comes from TikTok, which is a new thing for me actually. This is the first time I've ever played one from TikTok. This is from somebody named lustfulx, which,

and it was recorded at the Sally House, which is in Atchison, Kansas. And this is a place that I will need to do a deep dive on in the future because it is like a very very very well-known haunted house that people are constantly going to investigate. It's been on a lot of TV shows famously it was on the show in the 90s called Sightings where they covered the the family that lived there and it's there's some stuff going on. So this was recorded in the nursery and I want you to tell me what you hear does go saying Oh

It sounds like Backwards something backwards, isn't it? Okay, I'll play it again. I think it's something backwards or it's ET phone home. I can't get ET phone home. Whatever it is, it's not a cute voice. No, that's a demon. Yes, a demon or like someone that hangs out in a casino all day, like, anyway, you're a demon. Okay. I mean, that's, I don't, I always expect stuff like that to be like quieter and more in the background.

So that's the all different kinds. I've heard really the whole the whole gamut But okay, I'm gonna give you some options because they did not think that it was E.T. Phone home Here's some options one of these is the correct answer of what they believe it said So is it let me play it one more time so you can hear that All right is it A? Eww, what's in your mouth?

B, we want you alone. C, we want you to know. Or D, meal Patrick Harris. We want you alone. Yes, that's what they believe it said. Beat. I hear that. We want you alone.

Ew. I don't like that. That's so creepy. Something like that, do you believe it's real? No. But it's a TikTok. Sure, John. I don't.

I don't, not, I'm not saying I don't believe in the phenomenon, but that to me doesn't sound. Well, you haven't heard the second one I have for you. Oh, fuck. Okay. This one is from a YouTube channel called Sacred Spirits. And it doesn't really tell me much about the location. It just says that Tina was doing a crossover session Which I assume is like

Whoever Tina is was helping a ghost crossover. I guess and that's when they heard this voice Okay, now there is some crumbling going on. Okay, but there's a voice Within the crumbling going on. Wait, what? Okay. But there's a voice within the crumbling. Okay. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey But it's like they don't know what they don't have options so they just kind of pull something out of the air too Yeah, no, I don't hear the voice and I think I will once I know it. It's saying I hear something breathy. Yeah, that's what it is. It's the breathiness. So okay, is it hey? Hey, that's my husband Be okay, that's my husband. B, K, that's enough then. C, ain't that something.

Or D, get a bag of sun chips. I'm gonna go with B. You're gonna go with B, K, that's enough then? Yeah. That's too long. They believe it's C. Ain't that something. Okay. Now we know that.

Let's listen. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. Kind of. I don't hear that, but I do. That one, to me, almost seems more believable for some reason, because it's like, let's clear. Ain't that something.

Yeah. Totally. Well, I want to do one more thing with you. I mean, I wanna do a million things. Yeah, I wanna go to the state sales shop and with you. Yeah. But we're going to do a little thing here where I'm just gonna list off a bunch of phenomena.

This will be really interesting with you. And I just wanna hear, if you have any thoughts on it. Maybe it'll trigger a memory of a story I don't know and whatever whatever comes up. I'm just curious where you're at on this stuff What about big foot give it to me? Specifically no, but I think that there's probably a lot of creatures that we don't totally know in these forests and stuff, but no. Right. Well, whatever it is, if that's the case, there's never been one better ad hiding.

That's true. That's true. Because whoever that is, they do not want anyone finding them studying them Yeah, okay. Yeah, so along that line locked us monster that would you put all the same same thoughts on all of those kinds of things ocean and lakes and waters to me are much creepier Oh, yeah, because you know There's we can't explore the deaths of those things So I would believe in Loch Ness Monster before

Bigfoot for sure. And Karen would kill me if I said I don't believe in Loch Ness Monster because she loves him. So yeah, I could see there being some large creatures down there that we don't know about. What about demons? Do you believe in that idea of a demon? No, no, no. I'm Jewish again. We don't have that. What about past lives? Now that's something I totally want to believe in, for sure. And when little kids, like I said, when they have these memories at a young age of incidents and details that they should have no knowledge about because their children and haven't experienced those things like I just did a story about a kid who had all of these details about being a world war two fighter pilot that ended up being correct and there's no reason for him to have known any of that stuff.

And I think kids are more open to those things because they don't know it's impossible. No one's told them yet that that doesn't happen. It's not true. So yeah, I think it's definitely a possibility. Do you think about what your past lives could have been? No, probably pretty typical, but I do think the people who are in your life now, you know, that people say like the people in your life now were in your life in a different way in your past lives. So, you know, your mother could have been your daughter, like that sort of thing. I do think there's like this connection

to the people you hold dear in this lifetime. Mm-hmm. Okay. What about curses? I mean, that would suck if they're real. But sometimes you hear about these like famous, this family's cursed or this, you know, whatever. Right, this baseball team is cursed and stuff.

I mean, I think it's all a state of mind, you know what I mean? Like if you think your curse and only bad things happen to you, then you're only gonna notice the bad things that happen to you or you're gonna make decisions subconsciously that create those bad things or those unlucky things. Okay. I think I'm a pretty lucky person in general, but I don't think it's because of fate or anything like that. I think things happen and I just keep tripping upwards. I'm grateful for that.

I think that that helps to be grateful. And then the curse won't happen because you're looking at the beautiful things in life instead of the negative stuff. Oh, wasn't this a beautiful experience having you on? Yes, this was the opposite of a curse. This was a blessing to be honest. It really was. Oh my gosh. Thanks for doing this.

It was so good to be honest. So fucking happy, you're on exactly right now. You fit in so perfectly. I mean, it's just huge and I'm thrilled. Well, and I have so much to say about my experience so far, which has been truly a dream with exactly right. And I'm so glad. I mean, I know that you and Karen know how great

this network is, but just as someone that's new here, I just want you guys to know, like, you're doing a great job. The people that I'm working with here are phenomenal. And I feel like a star. Everyone's treating me like a star. Everyone is so excited about you. And yeah, we have the best, most amazing team. And exactly right.

And I'm like honored to have you on. You're gonna think in perfectly with the family. Ah! Family! Well, anyway, I guess that's about it. Is there any last words anything you wanna tell people? Please don't haunt me. That's about it. Is there any last words anything you want to tell people? Please don't haunt me. That's about it. Exactly. It's about consent and that's the thing with these goes. Definitely. They don't, they, you know, they just think they're invited to show up and hover over your bed at night, but if they're not asked to, don't do it. And maybe that's why they don't

bother me that much, because I say stuff like that. Well anyway, thank you for making so many dreams come true for me. Thank you, you too. [♪ Music that you can look forward to. So, I'll be back next week and I cannot wait. I love you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. K-Bye! This has been an exactly right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast? I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you.

So email me at ghostedbyraazatgmail.com. You can send a DM or voice message to the show's Instagram at ghostedbyraaz. Give us a follow while you're there. And follow me, Ross, on Instagram at Ross Hernandez, and on TikTok and Twitter at its RAW's Hernandez. My senior producer is the startling Jeh-Ha Lee. Associate producer is the alarming Alex Chee.

This episode was mixed and sound-designed by the Yuri Edson Joy. My guest-booker is the petrifying, petrified, cutner. Additional production support from the hair-raising, Hannah Kyle Criton. My theme music is by the Spine-chilling, Brendan Lynch Salomon, artwork by the spooky Vanessa Lailack. Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen.

Executive produced by the chilling Karen Killgareth, the spooky Georgia heart-stark and the frightening Danielle Kramer.