My Therapist Ghosted Me - Dating Apps, Workplace Relations & Romantasy
Episode Date: April 19, 2024Where to start this week. Cataracts... That's where. Then, dating app profiles, whether or not Vogue is an "island person" and the whole thing with Jojo Siwa. If you’d like to get in touch, you can... send an email to hello@MTGMpod.comPlease review Global's Privacy Policy: global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com/For more information about Joanne's gigs, visit: www.joannemcnally.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.Thank you!
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Hello and welcome to My Therapist Goes With Me with me, Bo Gwilliams and Joanne McNally.
Happy Friday.
Happy Friday.
I was going to sing that Friday song
And I thought no I won't
Because it actually really annoys people now
Yeah
But I like that you're becoming self aware
I am
I am
But I am self aware
But I'm not
I sneak it in anyway
How are you?
I'm great
I'm back from my holidays
Yeah
It's good to be home
Looking tanned Is that a sun tan or a bottle tan
now i do try to avoid the sun as you know um but because you just can't not for two whole weeks i
get tanned very quickly and very easily so uh so this is actually a real tan but it's so
disappointing because this is going to be gone in a week what's the point i don't want it on me just moisture well the soap is hard like that's the reason people go on
holidays is to tan well not not everyone but like very very white people like i just no i like to
hide from the sun but what i will tell you is and you know what i put so much work into all that
pigmentation getting rid of it
loads of painful treatments
thought my skin
was looking half decent
before I went
wear a cap every day
wear factor 50 every day
wear sunglasses every day
what am I covered in
pigmentation
yeah it creeps in
there's really no escaping it
I was the same
in America
it's like factor 50 every day
and then I double up
it's like maybe that's
factor 100
I don't know how it works
if I like
pile it on I mean the amount of shit that I hear and I don't know how it works if I like pile it on
I mean the amount of shit that I hear and I still came
back with freckles on my face no you can't avoid them
I'm going to start wearing that paint you know that
American footballers wear on their cheeks I'm going to start
wearing that all over my face just go around
like the Aussies the Aussies wear it on their neck
to just spit all over your phone
oh god look oh no I have literally poured
water all over myself.
Great.
I thought I was looking well today.
That is shit.
Downy water.
I'm back in Dublin.
I'm in my mum's
nursing pat
because Pat's had
her cataracts done.
Oh.
Is that like a film
of crap over your eyes
that you have to get taken off?
Yes, Dr. Bougat.
It's a film of crap.
Is it?
That's what I thought it was
because Winston has cataracts
but his are okay i don't have to get them done yet but you can see the film of crap i think it's
like age spots for the eyes does she look really sparkly now she's got bionic eyes now one of them
is completely bionic she can see through walls and the other one is still she you can only get
one done at a time so i was like oh come home you're getting your cataracts done and then she didn't I didn't realize she's only getting one done this time
she's getting one done next week and I was like well I'll zoom in next week I'm not coming back
again I thought I thought you're getting them done at the same time that's what I'm here to
guide you around the house like a like a guide dog but she's only had one done but anyway she's
absolutely thrilled she had it done yesterday she can already see much better that's wild
I think all that stuff
the laser and stuff
I was like to T
when we were on holiday
I was like
mummy has eyes
in the back of her head
just so you know that
so I was looking for her
and he's like
okay
is the fridge door
open or closed
I was like
closed
he's like
couldn't believe it
thinks I've got little eyes
in the back of my head
but I was like
I need to be here when she gets vision again
because I don't think she's going to recognize me.
I need to like talk her through as she comes around.
She's going to be like, fuck, you've aged.
Because you've been so dusty since then.
Well, she hasn't seen me since I turned 30, I'd say,
because she's completely blind.
I was like, now you'll realize there's traffic lights
at the end of the road.
You've been breaking through them
for the last six years.
Well,
anyway,
she can see.
It's great.
Is it great though?
Will it be great?
Was it better the old way
when she could just kind of see?
You could get away with more.
I think your short-sightedness goes
when you get your cataracts done
I've always said cataracts are God's Paris filter
That's why I've always recommended going for older men
If you're not feeling good in yourself
They can only kind of see you quite blurred
Aging's a pain in the hell
I don't know how she's been
I think she's just been kind of pulling her cataracts aside
Up until this point and kind of trying to live her life
But now she's one eye done
She's like a little pirate and then she's going to get the next one done
Soon, I'm not coming back for that She's on her own now and kind of trying to live her life. But now she's one eye done, she's like a little pirate and then she's going to get the next one done soon.
I'm not coming back for that.
She's on her own now.
Ah, she's grand
because she'll have such good vision in one eye
that she won't even need you to be there anymore.
She won't need us.
I just came back to see what painkillers they gave her.
My mum, when she gets painkillers,
I'm like, I'll have the rest of them now
because she doesn't like taking them.
Throws them in the bin.
Throws them in the bin.
That's actually criminal. It's actually criminal it's actually
it's really embarrassing
for her
what a loser
yeah
it's like what they used to say
she should take a couple
and a glass of wine
and just be happy
with life in Spain
Spain would be far more
interesting during the winter
once if she had a couple
of those
Zappa clowns
and a glass of wine
do you know they used to say
if you wasted your dinner
your mother would be like
there's children in Africa
would love that food to say to your mom joanne and i would love that
middle-aged women would love those painkillers don't you dare waste that mom was like why don't
you come down to the hospital there might be like doctor there for you and i was like unless there's
a doctor with a neck tattoo and a pair of snickers i'm more of a clean a cleaner look than you are
like you're more of a tattooey i like the snickers trousers i'm not gonna lie of course everybody
likes the snickers trousers i don't want to have to sense red flags i want to see them straight
away that's me i don't like invisible ones i don't even need to see them because i can just
be guaranteed that whoever i choose is gonna have thousands of red flags i don't need to see them
they're there if i'm into them they're there we. We love a flag. Oh my God. So you know
the way I'm kind of cruising the dating apps without any real intent, just kind of having a
goo. Yeah. And there's kind of the, it's called a celebrity date nap. I don't know. Like, I mean,
it's not, it's just a, it's just another date nap really. But one of the lads is a hobby,
cause I haven't been on them In so long His hobby
I was like
Do you know when you're like
Ugh
I need to get off this
Because all I'm doing
Is rolling my eyes
I'm obviously not in the right
Headspace for this
No
Like I'm just rolling my eyes
Like there isn't enough scalp
For me to roll them back in
His hobbies were
Hiking
Ice baths
And
Sleep
Hygiene
Oh my god
send me his details
that's right up my street
are you mad
he sounds great
he sounds great
a hobby
is falling asleep
hiking is a hobby
is sleep hygiene
sleep hygiene
oh come on
ok you're a filthy sleeper
I was like
are we not even pretending
to be interesting anymore
are we not even lying
about our hobbies anymore like last time I was on these apps we not even pretending to be interesting anymore? Are we not even lying about our hobbies anymore?
Like last time I was on these apps,
we used to lie
to make ourselves more interesting.
Sleep hygiene.
Joanne,
I'm amazed
that you find that unattractive.
I'm questioning
my own current marriage
now that I've heard
about this man.
That man sounds like,
Sleep hygiene.
Yeah.
I'd fucking love
to go on a date with him.
We'd have so much to talk about.
Oh wow,
what's your Orem
Yum yum
I'll tell you now
It wasn't great last night
No
I'm in the red
For last night
Rhetorical question Vogue
I'm not in the right headspace
I don't think
I don't consider sleep hygiene
A hobby
I'd rather he just lied
And said fencing
And then we laugh it off
When we meet
I just don't think
Falling asleep
I don't think
Maximising your sleep
is a hobby
anyway
I shut all the apps down
I was like fuck this
it's a full time job
that sleep hygiene business
it is
definitely
what are your hobbies
down as
I'd be interested to know
I still have my
old
account
like I haven't changed
any of it
so it's ridiculous
I actually took it down
because I was like
I'm a catfish
I don't look like that anymore
so I have to update my photos
I just need to be realistic now
I've been two years on the road
I look like
I look like I've got gout now
And I need to
Those photos need to
Mine is
And Hinge
It's like name something
You'll never do again
And I have your dad down
Which just has to go
Because that's like
Stag party shit
I'd say that definitely
It could be attracting
the wrong
I was going to say
clientele
but we're not there yet
yeah clientele
the wrong Johns
you could
do you know what though
I was in it
when I was in St. Boris
it is kind of wild
to see
because obviously
it happens all the time
but like
the really older men
going out with the
really younger girls.
There's a lot of that.
Because of course it's very expensive.
I mean I wouldn't be going there.
When I was 20.
No way.
Money talks.
I realised something about myself.
Because I got back.
I'm not going to go into.
My little jet lag stories.
Because I know how uncomfortable.
You are around sleep.
But I'm actually so vain.
It's shocking.
So I got back.
The second I got back. I was like. I need to de-feral. I booked. I went and got. I actually so vain. It's shocking. So I got back. The second I got back,
I was like,
I need to de-feral.
I booked.
I went and got.
I was so exhausted
when I landed
and I was like,
no, I have to do it.
I have to do it.
I went straight to this place.
It's called Sister Salon,
by the way.
You'd love it there.
It's these two girls
from Belfast who run it.
It's in Sloane Square
and they do the best eyebrows.
I went straight there
from the airport,
absolutely dragging myself
along on my bike trying
to make it down to them because I had to get my brows done I booked a hair appointment I booked
nails I booked a facial I don't think I'm an island person I think I'd need to get like I'd
have to do a brow course or something before I went so I could figure my own shit out you know
how wild can your brows get in two weeks oh my god my like i am just like
i'm just a hairball waiting to spurt there's just and it's all blonde hair but i nearly think that's
worse because i'm just so like just fluffy all over the all over the face is the way you look
but i was thinking i was gonna put forward an idea for you and joe
you ready okay we should go on a friend holiday three days now i
don't love drinking too much on holidays we'll go a little bit of hiking do a few bits you guys are
allowed to drink two one of the three days we're away no joe yeah okay one of the three days we go
away we'll go somewhere fancy we'll have a big day one day so you'll feel really hungover the next day
you won't want to do anything
and we'll do lots of
nice fun things
no kids
what about
would St Bart's not
host a team building
weekend for us
where we can like
do that thing
where you fall back
and you have to
catch each other or not
or whatever way it works
Jo?
it's a bit far
for three days maybe
St Bart's a little bit far
for three days
it's like a full day travelling
I think we're going to
have to go somewhere European.
I didn't realise our professional bond
had geographical restrictions, Jo.
I was saying to my mum, though,
if she admitted she had an Instagram account,
we could have got her a collab.
We could have got her cataracts done for free.
Is she ever going to admit that? So she had to Instagram account. We could have got her a collab. We could have got her cataracts done for free. Is she ever going to admit that?
So she had to pay for it.
That's a tough one.
Okay, so I saw this thing on the Daily Mail.
Of course it was on the Daily Mail.
Because I read that female section.
Do you ever read that?
Yeah.
And it's the most likely,
the people who have jobs
that mean you're most likely
to cheat on your partner.
Can you guess any of them?
Vets.
No, not vets.
Nurses and doctors,
which are kind of like vets for humans.
Take me through the list.
Okay, okay.
Teachers.
They have high work stress and high expectations placed on them.
They're often blamed for things out of their control
and the blame feels intensely personal,
which creates high levels of frustration
and low self-esteem.
Both harm relationships
and create feelings of alienation.
Only another teacher truly understands how they feel.
Well, I am not
at all surprised
by that
considering the amount
of free time teachers have
and please don't come
at me teachers.
I'm sorry
but it's true
all summer
what else are you going to do?
You have to have an affair.
How else are you going to
kill all that time?
And then they have
ropes in the PE hall
that's sexy.
Really sexy.
And then they
depending on the age of the kids they have that soft play area you can roll around in there. They have ropes in the PE hall. That's sexy. Really sexy. And then they,
depending on the age of the kids,
they have that soft play area.
You can roll around in there.
I was in,
when I was in school,
a couple of the teachers were married to each other.
Yeah, of course.
It's it.
You can drive in to work,
drive out.
It's like logistically,
I can totally understand
why teachers would have affairs
with each other.
Really, really, really do.
Teachers I can understand
because they're in a position
Of power
It's like
It's sexy teaching
Somebody alphabet
You're like yeah
The alphabet has always
Been a very sexual song
For me
Indeed
Since Benny and I
Are about to get it on
I'm like hang on a second
Hit it
A
C
D
And the best bit is
L M N O P
Gorgeous Okay another one for you
bankers and people
who work in high finance
they have to meet targets
and maximise profits
that's why they do
the dodgy thing
because they're used
to cheating
with money
this is desperate
now I didn't write this
by the way
so if there's any
financiers out there
I'm very sorry
you little cheaters
everyone cheats like my mother cheated at Monopoly last night I'm just going you little you little cheaters everyone cheats
like my mother
cheated at Monopoly
last night
I'm just going to go upstairs
and call her a whore
so they do it
because
because it's a tiny leap
to do the same
in your own
personal relationships
it's funny
because they have these
so it's teachers
bankers
entrepreneurs
which is kind of sexy
I suppose
if they're good
entrepreneurs is the is the most vague term like anyone's an entrepreneur bankers entrepreneurs which is kind of sexy I suppose if they're good entrepreneurs
is the
is the most
vague term
like anyone's an entrepreneur
like you know
if you're fucking
selling knockoff DVDs
you're an entrepreneur
I know
are they saying
entrepreneurs have affairs
yeah but
like the thing about
entrepreneurs is like
it's so unattractive
when someone's just
saying something
you're like
oh my god I know
that's bullshit
please stop
it's so painful to watch.
They're spoofers.
Spoofers, exactly.
Spoof of the week. Entrepreneurs.
Dragons Den must be like a
fucking orgy.
There's a couple of those
dragons that would get it. Peter Jones.
Totally. I don't know him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pilots and flight
crew. Of course. Free hotel rooms. Free. Pilots and flight crew. Of course.
Free hotel rooms.
Free hotel rooms.
A little hot.
They're all kind of hot.
Remember the Leonardo DiCaprio and what was that movie called?
Catch Me If You Can.
Catch Me If You Can.
Oh God, he was so hot in that.
You're like fucking walking white on today.
I know, I'm kind of like that a lot,
to be honest.
What's going on?
Do you know what I was thinking imagine working
in an Undertaker
there's no way
he'd ever be horny
working there
even when he left
there's no chance
of the horn
he'd smell like dead
I'd say
well I mean they're not
are you talking about
riding the body
or
no I'm not talking about
riding the body
I'm talking about
workplace relations
I don't think it's the body's job
to be sexy for you
whenever anyone dies
it's like god she looks great
doesn't she look great
it's like no she didn't look great
there's an Instagram account
called the mortician
that I've been following recently
it's very interesting
she's like this young woman
who talks about
kind of what goes on
and
well like how they prepare the bodies and all this kind of stuff.
And one of the questions, she does these Q&As.
One question was, how when I'm in the coffin, do I not, how will I not look like I've got a fat neck?
Is there anything you can do about that?
She's like, not really, to be honest, because when you lie down, the neck does kind of gather a bit.
Scarf, little scarf.
Yeah, a little cravat would work.
I was laughing though,
like even our concerns and deaths.
We're like,
can you just,
can you boost the tits?
I don't want them sagging down.
It's terrible when you,
like the people would
actually have that.
It's just because you're dead.
You don't,
you know what I mean?
You're not ready to give up the ghost.
I just would rather close caskets.
Thank you very much.
Things that annoy me people who eat
on Instagram stories
I just
cannot
stand it
I was watching
someone's Instagram story
she filmed herself
just eating
just eating her dinner
and I was like
I can't
it just made me feel
like I just
really don't like
watching people eat
I hate it
do you mean like
the mukbang trend
where people actually
go on to be seen
to eat
I can't believe
that would even be a thing
mukbang
it's huge
they make so much money
some people watch
eating what
because
well some people
so I think
some people are actually
kind of
if they're lonely and they eat alone all the time they like watching someone else are actually Kind of If they're lonely
And they eat alone
All the time
They like watching
Someone else eat
Because it's like
They're having their
Dinner together
And then other people
Just kind of
Find it fascinating
I do find it fascinating
When the Asian girls
Do the mukbang videos
And the amount they eat
And the way they
They so gracefully
Eat the noodles
And everything
I kind of like it
But anyway
They're making a ton of cash
Oh no
That really wouldn't
Oh gross Jo's just shown me one Oh no It's like but anyway they're making a ton of cats oh no that really wouldn't oh gross
Jo's just shown me one
oh no
it's a
it's like
it's like nails
on a chalkboard for me
and I know I've done
I know I've done it before
so I'd like
my deepest
apologies for that
because it's so disgusting
to me that like
I know I've done it
at the end of a video
when I used to work
with HelloFresh
and stuff
I'd be like
and it's like
even that is so disgusting
so that's something
that annoyed me this week
there you go
I do it by accident
I'm always eating crisps
in the background
and stuff
and I don't notice
the noise
and people are like
the noise
it's like I'm chewing glass
it's so loud
I apologise
yeah it really bothers people
like me
so Jojo Siwa previously of Dance Moms fame now is going
through a very controversial rebrand and she is the talk of the town I was not familiar with her
work before this rebrand happened but apparently she had this YouTube channel she's got like 11
million Instagram followers and I recognized her when I saw her.
She's like kind of a camp girly girl dancer.
She used to wear these huge big bows
and apparently like sells merch everywhere.
She's like a human Teletubby.
Like as in people just bought,
or like she's like a human Peppa Pig.
Yeah.
Such is her merch industry business.
All these young American girls and boys
want to be Jojo Siwa.
They want to be a dancer.
Yeah.
And she's like a Disney,
she's like a Disney child.
I think she's Nickelodeon,
but that's kind of the buzz.
Anyway.
I saw her for the first time
on the Kardashians years ago
because Northwest was like obsessed with her
and came obviously organized
for her to come over
and like hang out with Northwest.
And this was like back in the day
when she had all this mad stuff in her hair
and that's how I know her
yeah okay yeah
so she was doing
a little corporate
for the Kardashians
yeah
which makes sense
yeah she's absolutely huge
just wouldn't
I wouldn't be her demographic
because she wasn't on my radar
but
she's done this rebrand now
she's come out now
she got a lot of abuse
when she came out
right
because there was
yeah she got a lot of abuse
because these mums
of these little girls
were like,
oh my God, you're a lesbian.
I'm burning her bow.
You know, all this nonsense.
Anyway, she's really leaning
into her new queerness.
She's got this new music video.
She's got a new song called Karma
where she's dressed like
Gene Simmons from Kiss.
But the amount of abuse
this girl is getting,
and look,
I'm going to be totally honest
It's not the smoothest
Rebrand in the world
It is a little try hard
Like she's dressed like
Jean Simmons from Kiss
And then I saw an interview
Where someone was like
Oh are you a big Kiss fan
And she's like who
So I think
Her
I know
She's not
She hasn't really been briefed
On her new look
Very well
Which
Isn't her fault
Like someone should be
Briefing her on that
you know
we've dressed you like
Gene Simmons
you need to know
who Gene Simmons is
but I thought she
I think that she
was coming out
saying that she was
really in control
of her rebrand
and her whole new vibe
but actually
if it comes down to it
she probably didn't
really have
all that much to do with it
yeah
Miley Cyrus's
kind of bangers moment
felt a bit more
Authentic
I think
I think that's why
Jojo's Zua
I think that's why
She's getting so much abuse
It's just
She's just an incredibly
Confident young woman
She's talking about
That she's invented gay pop
She's had a couple of clangers
So people started
To turn on her
But oh my god
I have
I don't know how
She is surviving it
I don't She must she is surviving it.
She must have skin made of cement.
She is getting so much abuse and she's saying,
it's just part of my job and it's part of... But you know, kind of deep down...
Of course that's hurting her.
Of course it is.
I feel so sorry for her.
I really, really do.
Now she's a multi, multi, multimillionaire.
She drives around in a car covered in her own face.
I'm sure she's fine. But she's a multi multi multi millionaire she drives around in a car covered in her own face i'm sure she's fine but she's like that she's that child star she's kind of a really mature baby
it's like they've arrested development but they're very mature for their age but they're also really
immature for their age and she's got this new identity now and it's such a breakaway from what
she was but i swear i don't think fucking Orr Kelly got this much abuse she is
getting absolutely
rinsed. The problem is because
she's gotten so big and people are just
people wait around
they're like little piranhas they literally
wait around until you do the slightest
thing wrong and then they attack
and it's just the way that the world works
you sent me that article and I was reading it and the
psychology around why people do it and it's because the way that the world works. You sent me that article and I was reading it and the psychology around why people do it.
And it's because they aren't feeling like it makes them feel insignificant in themselves when somebody else that they don't even know is doing really well.
It's like, why do you care if someone else, you're never going to do what she's doing.
She's not in any way in your lane. Like there's a couple of people now in our industry that you can probably know who I'm talking about. That would very much, well, mine in particular, that would very much kind of sell their granny for a job.
Or like be a bit like, oh, well, why did they get that job?
And it's like, but you would never have gotten that job because it's not like it's not even in your area.
And yet you're getting annoyed that somebody else got it.
There's so much of that somebody else got it there's so
much of that around yeah there is there's a lot of competitiveness and i think actually that article
i sent you that one of the most interesting things in it was it in that one they were saying this um
the kind of why do people hate so much like why or why is the internet so full of hate
and one point they made was because now there's a lot of um
impetus on being kind to each other in real life like people are a lot kinder and more aware of
each other's feelings and more respectful allegedly that bad behavior isn't as isn't as acceptable
outside of the internet anymore so people let off their steam online which i thought was kind of
interesting anyway i stand jojo she she's brought people up the wrong, which I thought was kind of interesting. Anyway, I stan Jojo.
She's rubbed people up the wrong way.
She has said some kind of annoying things.
She has, let's face it.
But she certainly does not deserve what she's getting.
If I was her mother, I would,
well, she won't obviously,
because she finances her whole family.
Like she's the breadwinner,
which is again, a very strange dynamic.
I was going to say if I was her mother,
I'd wrap her up in cotton wool
and take her out of the biz
but I wouldn't really
as in her mother
clearly relies on her
like her income
and they're living
in mansions
all over the place
it's weird
I hope she's okay
I'd say that she probably
does have a slightly
thicker skin
than other people
would have
because she's probably
used to it
but I was saying this
to you yes as well
it's kind of like
you wait for your for your takedown and there'll always be a
little bit of a takedown like remember that whole jesus the i had a woman comment on one of my posts
oh i hate her and i was like you you hate me you've never ever met me how do you hate me
and i don't even think she responded but like it's like that air
airplane seat thing with me do you remember that when I've said it before of course never in a
million years would I ever ask somebody to change seats with me but it was just something for people
to jump on and I still get abuse for that today and it's like yeah I didn't even do that and people
just want to to take you down it's like, oh, I just don't.
Like, they want you to be an arsehole.
They'd prefer for you to be an arsehole so they can be like, she's an arsehole.
Yeah.
I'm not an arsehole.
You're not an arsehole.
I really am into an arsehole.
Bo, I think a friend holiday is a great idea.
Thank you. I would really like that
it's nice to talk about
because we all know
it's not going to happen
but there we go
we put it out there
because we're such good friends
obviously we've been
looking at all of
what's going on with Coachella
yes
little bits and bobs
little bits and bobs
I saw someone online
refer to it as
the influencer Olympics
and I nearly died laughing that online refer to it as the influencer Olympics and I nearly
died laughing
that's exactly
what it is though
like supposedly
so brands pay
influencers to go
to it
now don't get me wrong
if someone wanted to
pay me like I'd be off
like straight away
no problem
100%
and sometimes
they just go
and get their picture
taken and then leave
and don't even actually stay for the festival just go get their picture in all the good spots and they just go and get their picture taken and then leave and don't even actually
stay for the festival
just go get their picture
in all the good spots
and then just go
that'd be me
I know
well no
because there's loads
of really good bands there
there's loads of really good
music acts
that you'd want to go see
Blur were there this year
and Damon Albarn
started giving
the crowd shit
being like
are you going to sing along
but I actually think that
like Blur are not very Coachella.
Like maybe people don't actually know
Blur at Coachella.
It doesn't feel like a right kind of fit.
I don't think that people
were trying to be arseholes.
And I think they're an amazing band.
But like if they were in the UK doing that,
like obviously loads of people
would sing along.
But I'm not really sure
that people would know them over there.
Also, and like correct me if I'm
wrong please but is Cowichella
not a very young audience
and like is Blur not kind of our generation
is Cowichella not kind of 20s
are they not more like a Dua Lipa buzz
than a Blur buzz
I did see him get very frustrated that they weren't
singing along it is I can understand
his frustration it's like when you do a gig and now it's laughing
you're like I know but you can't
Stand there and be like
Laugh
Laugh
Like you can't be like that
Well you want to
But sometimes
Like sometimes you do
Sometimes people are like
I'll kind of bang the mic
And be like
Is anyone here
Like
You've got to
Let them know
That you expect more
You know
Sometimes you just get
A very reserved crowd
It just is what it is.
But I guess he's just so used to people singing along and idolising him
that it was a bit of a, you know, eggy experience, I would say.
I just don't feel, I don't really feel the fit there of Coachella and Blur.
I just, I just like, I mean, I don't even think Oasis would do well at Coachella.
No, I know what you mean.
They wouldn't know who they are and you're
right and it's just like people going to get their picture
taken. Yeah, it's definitely a
different buzz. It's like Burning
Man but for people who don't want to travel as far as
the desert really. It's like Burning Man for less cool
people. Would that be right?
Yeah, Burning Man. It's like, do you know what? I think
Coachella would really suit me because I know I could go home
every day. I could have a shower.
I could chill. That's I could have a shower like I could chill
that would be
that's kind of my
my vibe
saying that I am
going to Glastonbury
and that's not really
a go home
for the day kind of vibe
but did you see what
Megan Fox
was at
Coachella
she was there with a brand
and she was talking about
Machine Gun Kelly
and basically
the engagement is over
she told me
yeah
yeah
it is over but like I me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It is over.
But like, I just,
I think that the level of,
like, you know when you're in a new relationship,
you're like, oh, this is brilliant.
I've never felt like this before.
This person is the best person in the world.
That's obviously,
obviously you're going to do that.
But like,
they were like dripping blood into each other's mouths and stuff like that.
They really took it too far.
And now it's like,
what does she say now?
Oh, we're not really engaged anymore. She did an interview on the Call Her Daddy podcast each other's mouths and stuff like that they really took it too far and now it's like what does she say now oh well
we're not really
engaged anymore
she did an interview
on the Call Her Daddy podcast
and
she
I
I have to say
I'm
I was always a Megan Fox fan
I was never not a Megan Fox fan
but I'm becoming more
of a Megan Fox fan
so she talks about the fact
that she got Dodds abuse
for like her and
Machine
I think he's just
changed into Machine
now hasn't he because he did because of gun violence he dropped the for like her and Machine. I think he's just changed into Machine now, hasn't he?
Because of gun violence, he dropped the gun.
So her and Machine were drinking each other's blood
and people were giving her shit for it.
And she said on the podcast, she was like,
hold on a second, why are you giving me shit?
You let lads you don't know come in your mouth.
And I was like, mic drop.
Touché, Megan.
Yeah, I know.
She's like, I love this man
Why can't I drink his blood
Come on
Okay come on
Come on
There's just too much of it
There's too much
Listen
I think that's
Fair point
Well made
Fair point
But it's very different
I'm not saying that I'm going around
With fucking
That happening to my mouth
All the time
But like I would really find issue
With drinking someone's blood
Like even you know
If you cut yourself And you lick it yourself Just get And it's like Like you just I would really find issue with drinking someone's blood like even you know if you cut yourself
and you lick it yourself
just get
and it's like
like you just
I don't even want to
drink my own blood
let alone someone else's blood
well Jo
I hope you don't mind
me using you as an example
but if I have to
either drink some of your blood
or do the other thing with you
and I don't want to make you
uncomfortable in your workspace
lick the blood
or lick the other thing
but the other thing
will already be out
and on the table
so let's say there's
two little petri dishes one of blood one of the other stuff but the other thing will already be out and on the table so let's say there's two little petri dishes
one of blood
one of the other stuff
which one are you licking?
blood every day
all day every day blood
no I would lick the other
definitely
did you see that
she was dying about
um
just sit here
we don't even know
where our line is anymore
is that too much
Are you going to report us
To HR
Nah you're alright
He's on his way there now
But Megan Fox
Had some great advice
Yeah
Someone
She was like
Don't waste your time on boys
I know
Invest in yourself
And I was like
What a great
Piece of advice
It's like
I won't tell you
I'm newly single but there
will be signs I'll be playing smack my bitch up on the ukulele I'll have taught myself a whole new
skill we're all gonna always waste our energy but like yeah I'm gonna paint Katy Perry's firework
on the recorder they're like oh okay you're saying that's how Joanne's been spending your time
I tried to find some things
that I might have said
in past relationships
of being like
oh look how amazing
actually couldn't find any
just to show that I was
keep our cards
close to our chest
I did look
I looked very hard
couldn't find anything
you're like
I hired an agent
we did a
very strong
forensic search
and I still said
nothing positive
about anyone in my past
I was dead right
dead right
Vogue I have a book
recommendation
for your book club
okay love this
if I said to you
fairy porn
what would you think
I would think
of a magical forest
with fairies
and
and porn
sexual porn
you're absolutely
dead right
really?
yeah
so this is a new genre
sorry
fairy porn
fairy porn
some people call it
fairy porn
some people call it
romantasy
there's a woman
so this book is
New York Times
bestseller
there's a writer
called Sarah J Maas
Who has brought out
A new genre
Of porn
Called Romanticy
She has a book called
A Court of Thrones
Which is a very erotic spin
On Beauty and the Beast
Where she combines
Traditional fantasy elements
Like magical creatures
And mystical words
With traditional
Romance formats
That sounds a bit
Bestiality-ish Come on No Beauty and the Beast It a bit bestiality ish come on no
beauty and the bestiality i'm telling you i'm gonna write a fucking erotic version of rumple
still skin and make a fortune oh god i just don't think i need any more eroticism in my life you've
heard what i've been like this whole pot i don't know what's wrong with me if i start bringing that
in they'll just i'll go down a real real deep rabbit hole of romantic what is it called again romantic or fairy porn i just think what a great i'd much rather porn be delivered through
magical creatures than some lad fixing the fucking photocopier like let's have a bit of imagination
here a bit of creativity sarah j mass i'm telling you court of thrones your book club will multiply
in figures you'll be like so well i just finished i just finished the last book from the book club will multiply in figures you'll be like Oprah Sarah well I just finished
I just finished the last book
from the book club
Green Dot
which was so
like you should really
you should read that
it's very good
but then I read another book
when I was reading it
called Breakdown
and honestly
do you ever
like because someone told me
to read it
that it was really really good
but like I found it so depressing
oh really when I was on holidays and I was like this is not how I want to feel it that it was really, really good. But I found it so depressing. Oh, really?
When I was on holidays and I was like, this is not how I want to feel on holidays.
I feel really depressed.
But it was very true.
You read it and you're like, oh, I see elements of myself in that.
Not great.
Okay.
Well, I'll be busy reading Fourth Wing, which is another Sarah J Maas book about a romance
between a dragon rider and a teacher.
Joanne has pictures of naked leprechauns on her walls
I've been there
I've seen them
she's very into the fae
that's what they call fairies
the fae
it is it?
yeah the fae
do you not remember
I did that ghost show
I told you
and he was like
oh my god
is that a
do you see those fairies
and I was like no
I was like I'm not
don't include that
I was like I'm not doing that
yeah you're like
I'm not having a psychotic episode
I will never live that down anyway I think there's I think fantasy I think not doing that yeah you're like I'm not having a psychotic episode I will never live that down
anyway I think there's
I think fantasy
I think romanticism is the
I think
I think get ahead of the curve
and bring it into your book club
I don't know
there's still
it feels like there might be
a little bit of bestiality
about that
I wanted to
actually I forgot to tell you
about this
I read a thing
in the newspaper this week
and I
do you ever watch
Curb Your Enthusiasm?
Of course.
Okay, so Curb Your,
it's a really, really good show.
And Larry Davis
is this really grumpy man.
And he had a fight with him,
with this man who owned
a coffee shop called Java Joe's.
And then he ended up
opening his own coffee shop,
Latte Larry's,
because it was just a spite shop.
So he was only opening it
to spite the other guy
because he wasn't allowed into the other coffee shop.
And I read this story this week.
So there is, it's called
The World's Narrowest House, Casa de Carrivo.
And it's a very strange looking house.
It's in Sicily.
So basically it was known as the House of Spite
and it was built in the 1950s
following a dispute between two neighbours.
And they wanted to, it was built in the 1950s following a dispute between two neighbours. And they wanted to,
it was common for the Sicilian people
to add an extra floor to their house,
but the neighbour wouldn't let this guy
add an extra floor to their house.
And whatever way the rules worked,
if he built this three foot wide house,
he could build it as high as he wanted.
And just to piss off the neighbour
for not letting him build another floor,
he built this huge high
three foot house
that no one lives in
or no one uses
and it still sits there today
and I thought it was
so amazing
that you could possibly be
that fucking spiteful
good for him
I'd say he felt great after it
I'd say he lived out his days
absolutely thrilled with himself
I think he might have even
blocked his own view as well,
but he was like,
I don't care as long as
I'm blocking the neighbours.
That's so funny.
Talk about cutting off hair.
Well, Fran Lebowitz,
do you know her?
She's a huge,
she's a huge fan of revenge.
She says her two needs in life
are cigarettes and revenge.
And she's like,
people say it's really petty,
but she's like,
it's incredibly satisfying.
And sometimes she won't tell them
that she's gotten revenge on them,
but she'll be like,
yeah, I know why you didn't get that fellowship that's what she says she's like she
finds it very satisfying she says it's justice needs to be served she's a huge fan of us and
it's Fran Lebowitz if she's okay with it I'm okay with it I don't think I'd be I think I'd feel too
guilty and karma would come back and get you Hello and welcome.
Hello and welcome to...
Hello.
Oh, and welcome.
Is there anybody out there?
I'm taking a bit.
Come on.
Did you see that one about the man who basically,
he didn't speak to his wife for 20 years.
They lived together and they didn't speak to each other for 20 years
because she upset him.
Is that not the weirdest thing?
Their son, they have an 18-year-old son who wrote into a TV show
being like, please, can you help my parents?
They haven't spoken to each other
in 20 years
oh my god
because the husband
was jealous of the attention
the children got
so he ignored the wife
come on
oh my god
how weird
I know
apparently a lot of men
struggle with that
when the babies come along
they're like
oh hold on
Paloma Faith spoke about that
on Elizabeth Day podcast
she was talking about
the fact that
her ex-husband needed more attention.
She's like, I have kids now.
The attention has to go on the kids.
Well, Spenny always says to me, he's like, because I'm very much like that.
I'm obsessed with my kids.
I always want to make sure that they're super happy.
And I do tend to veer towards putting them first in every occasion.
But Spenny is, he says that without us, there is no family. So you should really start putting them first in every occasion but spenny is he says that without us
there is no family so you should really start putting us first and it kind of does make sense
to a point i'm willing to do it to a certain level but i think that for me i think kids should always
come first but you shouldn't forget your relationship either yeah that's true i don't
have either of those things but i would say a big yes I choose the kids I choose the kids
I choose
I have to put myself first
Day in day out
Which is
Quite hedonistic
But that's where I am in my life
I can't wait to go to Boston
And New York
And I'm just going to put myself first
The whole entire time
And do whatever
I want
And maybe
Maybe some things
That you want
Speaking of which
We are
Give us
Give us an upload there So the 10th of October We're in Boston And the 11th of which we are give us give us an upload there
so the 10th of October
we're in Boston
and the 11th of October
we are in New York
what
and
I can't wait
it's going to be great
all the tickets are on
mycarapacegallistomy.com
we can't wait to meet you
tip before we go
just in case
anyone's looking for something
to binge
Baby Reindeer on Netflix
by Richard Gadd
is phenomenal
now it's dark
but it's
it's the best TV I've seen
since I made a story
I think
it's phenomenal
oh
check it out
well I'm finishing
Ripley
at the moment
you need to watch that
it's really good
but you have to get through
the first episode
because the first episode
is quite slow
but I saw that reindeer thing
so I'm going to start that next
yeah it's really good
now it's dark
is it Andrew Scott in Ripley
Andrew Scott
he's amazing in Ripley
I honestly feel like
he's stalking me at this point
every magazine
every
he's absolutely everywhere
he is actually
he's like oxygen
he's brilliant though
yeah he is
he's brilliant
we love him
so I have a new podcast
that is actually out today
it's called
The Apple and the Tree
it's everywhere
you get your podcasts
it's basically
it's actually really cool
so it's an adult child
and a parent
and they talk about
different things
that have happened
in their lives
that they haven't been able
to talk to them about before
like there's some stories
about coming out
there's some stories
about really
one guy has
motor neurons disease
and he's talking to his mother
about how she feels
about the disease
he's only 33
so there's loads of
really really
great conversations
so it's called
The Apple and the Tree
and it's wherever
you get your podcasts
I look forward to listening
thank you very much
as if
I can't hear any more of you
also I'm in Dubai tonight
so it's Friday
if you're in Dubai
come and see
Sveni and I
our last show
of the tour
and we're done
after tonight
so thank you everybody
for listening
and have a fun weekend Bye.