My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "Floor Length Denim Cape-Jacket."
Episode Date: May 25, 2022It's time for the midweek therapy dose! This week, the emailers find themselves being driven all over London and carrying out the finest detective work. Plus, creative denim handbags and pregnant bell...ies. If you'd like to get in touch, you can send an email to hello@MTGMpod.comFor more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.comThank you!
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hello and welcome to our bonus episode of my therapist ghosted me with me Bo
Gulliams and Joanne McNally thank you
bye Joanne I'm starting with an email Joanne your story about passing out in a plane reminded me of
the time I was absolutely smashed.
Got a cab in central London
and gave the cab driver my old address.
He drove...
Oh, no.
He drove me to North London.
I fell asleep and woke up outside a house
I hadn't lived in for six months.
I said to him that I didn't live there,
and he went absolutely mad.
Bless him, though.
He didn't kick me out,
asked me where I actually lived,
and drove me to the other side of London.
Must have been an extra 40 minutes.
Still charged me though.
Final fare was 87 quid
and when I got out of the cab
he told me,
grow up and take some
fucking responsibility.
Sorry, why?
It's so weird
that she's like,
bless him though,
he didn't kick me out.
It's his job.
He fucking charged you for it.
It's his job.
He should have been thrilled
you went to the wrong house.
I know, like I find,
have you ever tried
to get into a taxi
and they're like,
oh you're not going far enough?
Yeah, well, supposedly they're not actually legally allowed to do that.
I live in Hoth, so whenever I'm in town, they're only thrilled to bring me home.
Of course, yeah.
Or sometimes they go, you're going too far.
So sometimes it'll be like, we won't get a fare back in.
Well, yeah.
So we're not going out.
And some of them are on their last fare.
So like they want to go the way they go home.
Yeah, he's like, which way are you going?
It's like, you can't legally ask me that.
I'm getting in.
Well, I actually went to jump in a taxi with Theodore
when I was really, really pregnant.
And I went to get in.
He was like, nah, sorry.
There's a, what are they called?
Protests along that way.
And he wouldn't take me.
Yeah, but that's kind of fair.
No, it isn't.
But there's no way of getting through.
He told me to get the tube.
I had a child and I was fully like really pregnant.
I don't want to get the tube. I want to child and I was fully, like, really pregnant. I don't want to get the tube.
I want to get in your car.
But if they can't,
you can't drive through,
if there's people like protesting,
you can't drive through them.
No, but, excuse me,
the next taxi that took me
went around the protests
because he wasn't an asshole.
I got into an Uber,
I got into,
I rang an Uber,
I ordered an Uber the other day
and this car pulled up
and I said,
are you for Joanne?
He goes, I don't know,
I didn't check the name.
Did you check the reg?
And I said, no,
and I just got in anyway.
The two of us were just,
this could just be
some fucking buzzer in a car.
Sorry, it keeps running.
This could just be
some lad in a car.
I'm just like driving,
doing laps of Clapham Common
with a complete stranger
and he doesn't know
if I should be in the car
and I don't know
if I should be in the car
and we're just buzzing around.
I get really worried about that
like I always
like I check
the license plate
then I get in
and I'm like
who are you here for
just to make sure
that like he's not
going to murder me
yeah
do you want another email
oh my boobs are so stingy
do you know what happens
when you breastfeed
it's mad
like my boobs
are like
they sting so bad
and then squirt milk out
yeah I know
gross
this woman
she thought her husband was cheating on her.
I mean, listen, I'm going to say this.
If you think they're cheating,
they probably are. Yeah.
That is true. Female intuition,
it's not, it makes, female intuition
sounds like it's some woo-woo
wacky thing, like we're just like
reading auras. It's not.
You know, you can sense it. We're reading people.
It's an emotional intelligence. Now saying that, I've been cheated on and I didn't have auras. It's not. You know, you can sense it. We're reading people. It's an emotional intelligence.
Now, saying that,
I've been cheated on
and I didn't have a clue.
That's the same.
I say...
Yeah, but do you know what?
That's fine.
So what I'm saying is
when you think they are
cheating on you,
they definitely are.
Joanne, why are people
cheating on us?
Anyway.
I know.
I was like, I've been rinsed.
Me too.
I've been completely humiliated.
Made an absolute show of by lads.
Like a show.
I actually don't find it embarrassing when I think back on it.
Because I'm like, you know, I'm embarrassed for you for being such an arsehole.
I know.
I wish I felt like that.
But I still do feel embarrassed by some of it.
Really?
I just don't think that you should.
I just think it's actually them
that should feel embarrassed
because like they just did
such a shitty little thing.
And I'm embarrassed for myself.
Have you ever done a bit of cheating yourself?
I'm embarrassed for myself
that I stayed
and I'm embarrassed for myself
that I didn't
like stand up for myself more.
I do.
I have a lot of shame around it all
to be honest.
I think that you've turned a corner though.
I've turned a corner.
You're not so shameful.
Have you ever done any cheating yourself?
No. Like not in a serious way cheating yeah no no not really no like barely not like hardly just the tip
kidding um oh yeah so this woman anyway she think she thought her husband was cheating on her
and she had kids married with kids married with kids
so anyway
and I actually can relate to this
so she's
the reason I was suspicious
this is her
we'll call her
let's call her Charlie
the reason I was suspicious
was because I was
I followed his ex-girlfriend
on Instagram
let's call her Julie
and she posted a story
of her TV saying
boyfriend don't work
kids in bed TV to myself
and I instantly jumped
to the conclusion
that she was signalling
to my husband of seven years
that she was available to talk.
Now, that to some people
could sound deranged,
but I can completely relate to that.
I remember having a,
I was in a situation with a man,
as in a relationship with a man,
and he was being,
behaving very strangely,
flirtatiously with this young one
who worked in a shop.
And I was trying to see
what was going on.
Oh, yes.
I told you this, didn't I?
And they were doing the same thing.
They were mimicking each other
on their Insta stories
and I knew,
I was like,
they're communicating
with each other.
But you know what's really bad
about that?
Like that is actually
doing something so horrible
to somebody else
but making a game of it.
It's so horrible.
It was so embarrassing.
It was horrible.
And plus,
you can't pinpoint it.
So you think you're like,
am I...
You think you're mental.
You think you're mental you think you're mental
yeah
a few weeks later
he took our kids
to soft play
and called me saying
oh that was so awkward
guess who was there
and I said
it wasn't Julie
by any chance was it
lo and behold it was
he said that all the kids
were playing together
so we had to sit with her
a few weeks later again
I was on a night out
with friends
I had a few wines in me
saw someone who worked on my husband introduced introduced myself as his missus. The young
lad replied, oh, you're Julie. I just laughed at him, said no, headed back to the dance
floor. My husband didn't think anything of it when I told him. He just straight his face
and said nothing. But I knew. That's the other thing. People are really good liars.
Really good liars.
Liars.
Really good liars.
I had a guy, again, I don't want to get into specifics,
who literally looked at me like,
the earnestness in his face,
because I said, I think there's something going on.
And he was like, I can't believe you'd think that of me.
Yeah, but that's gaslighting.
That's what they do.
But if you want to cheat on me, why do you want to... Anyway.
I can't believe you'd think...
It was like, how can we be together if you think that of me? Yeah. He turned to cheat on me, why do you want to... Anyway. I can't believe you think... Where are... It was like, how can we be together
if you think that of me?
Yeah.
Turned it back on me.
I was crying.
My instincts were on fire.
I knew.
But he basically just talked me
into this shame hell
that I was this paranoid,
jealous weirdo.
Ugh.
I remember I said it
and I was going to say
something too far.
I said it
and they were like,
we weren't even together at the time.
It's like, yes, we were.
Oh, I've had that done as well.
Actually.
Yeah, if you do the math.
Yeah, of course we bloody were.
Oh, you scored her when we broke up for that afternoon.
Yeah, yeah.
We were broken up for three hours.
Anyway.
Then one day he went to work
and left his Apple Watch at home.
I had to look.
Yeah, you did have to look
and I don't recommend
going through people's
bits and bobs
but sometimes
you just need to know
she had to
with all that stuff going on
so she looked into
the Apple Watch
went onto messages
and saw a number
not saved
and the message said
speak Monday
I was too scared
to open the messages
but I put the number
into my phone
saved it as a question mark
and went onto WhatsApp
to see that picture
oh
it was June terrible my friend came to look through the messages Oh.
It was Julie.
Terrible. Oh. I couldn't believe the cheek. So I decided I wouldn't give her the pleasure of knowing that it annoyed me. I left my husband
in the calmest manner I could
and got on with my life.
They got together,
broke up twice
and are no longer together.
Very hard to keep a relationship,
I think,
that's built out of deceit.
I think.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, there's probably loads of people
who are completely happy together.
I, on the other hand,
am absolutely thriving
in capital letters.
I had the best couple of single years
tindering and reliving my 20s
and I've now settled down again.
My new boyfriend
is an absolute ride.
Highly recommend divorce,
10 out of 10.
I would highly recommend divorce.
I would.
When are you going to do it again?
Your time is coming.
I know, I know.
I'm due another wedding.
Like Joe mentioning his wedding,
I'm like,
oh, when's my turn?
I haven't had one in years.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I think it's my turn next
I'd love to go to your wedding
I genuinely
you could have your wedding
in our house in Jersey
I genuinely would like
to have a couple of marriages
so I really need to
get my skates on
I know I don't really
want any more
I'm too busy
to be dealing with
all that stuff to be honest
seven marriages is enough
for anyone
yeah exactly
enough
I'm glad it worked out
yeah that's actually nice
I love hearing a nice
ending to a story
and plus it's been two years
so like we know that like
she won
and I think people
getting off on the thrill
of cheating
I understand people cheating
they get together
and whatever
life is long and complicated
and all that shit
but I think people
who get off on the thrill
of cheating
that's pretty gross
so you wouldn't be like
imagine your face
if we got together
laughing emojis
that's pretty bad speaking of divorces why don't we report julia fox right oh stop firstly okay obviously we're
talking about her because she was shopping in her knickers in her knickers like in her knickers
brown knickers
the whole denim
aesthetic that she's
going for
now
the
do you see her
her handbag
the denim
Jo have you seen
this denim handbag
where the legs
are the
where the legs
are the handles
and the ass
is like where you
put the bag
it's like
it's like someone
who's come out
it's like someone
who's had a breakdown
there you go
look at her handbag though that's like firstly how can come out, it's like someone who's had a breakdown. There you go. Look at her handbag though.
That's like,
firstly,
how can anyone make,
Where is she going like that though?
She can make an entire outfit
out of a pair of jeans.
She's basically if MacGyver
had had a breakdown
and it's come out now
and it's trying to sell.
You know what I mean?
You're like,
oh your aunt,
she's going through a hard time.
She's moved into arts and crafts
and she's putting on a sale in the house
and it's like that denim,
the denim handbag.
It reminds you of that
Sex and the City episode
where your woman's
going through a divorce
and so she went into
making her own handbags.
Do you remember?
And they were absolutely gross
and everyone just bought them
out of pity.
A pity bag.
It's like her outfit,
it's MacGyver vibes.
I don't know how anyone
makes that many bits and bobs
out of one pair of jeans.
She just, though, I hate what she wears and I'm all for people going out and being MacGyver vibes I don't know how anyone makes that many bits and bobs out of one pair of jeans she just though
I hate what she wears
and I'm all for people
going out and being
body confident
and stuff like that
but come on
don't go shopping
in your knickers
do you know what this
new trend is
that I saw today
I saw something from
the Cannes Film Festival
I actually couldn't even
open it to look who it was
because I'm just like
just no
this whole thing right
when you're pregnant
and only wearing
belly tops and stuff.
Well, this woman had a dress on, a full black dress
with just a hole cut for her pregnant stomach.
It's like, no.
I think that's kind of weird, though,
that you don't want to see pregnant bellies.
Yeah, but what, you're cutting just a hole
just so your pregnant belly can hang out.
And I guess they're kind of making a thing of it.
I don't know.
I just, it's not for me, to be honest.
It's not for me.
Yeah, it doesn't bother me. Imagine I went to an event and I just cut I just, it's not for me, to be honest. It's not for me. Yeah,
it doesn't bother me.
Imagine I went to an event and I just cut a hole in my top
for my pregnant belly to hang out.
It's, but...
Because I'm pregnant again.
But I would,
it genuinely,
those things don't even...
I told you, Vogue.
I told you.
Come June,
I'm taking you in
to get your tubes tied
like a balloon poodle.
It's too late.
I've done it.
It's happened.
He can try his best
getting his semen in elsewhere,
but it won't be through
the traditional channels.
So unless you're going to get
your fallopian tube
rewired into your eyes.
Ew, a fallopian.
That's a horrible word.
But Julia Fox,
that's why I was thinking
when it connected with divorce.
It's like,
firstly, she's trolling us.
Okay.
She knows what she's doing.
She's trolling us.
She's getting the publicity she wants.
And like,
because she doesn't have Kanye anymore now,
she has to do weird stuff like that.
I know.
She's got to Whole Foods in her knickers.
Have you been to Whole Foods?
That is like a nice establishment. I know. Well's got to hold foods in her knickers. Have you been to Whole Foods? That is like a nice establishment.
I know.
Well, she did.
Now, in fairness to her,
she did have a floor-length
denim cape jacket on,
which, you know,
so she wasn't completely
in her bra knickers.
I've had this discussion before.
It's that thing of like,
how come on a beach,
it has to be waterproof.
You didn't go with the rules, Julia.
Because she's talking about,
well, why is it okay on a beach?
We've discussed this in the pod. Yeah she's talking about why is it okay on a beach we've discussed
this in the pod
it's only acceptable
if it's waterproof
it's tog material
if you had worn
your togs
yeah then it
would be fine
but you didn't
wear your tog
but like
think of questionable
shit that we used
to wear
I used to wear
a bandana as a top
and one on my head
that's in now
that's totally in now
it's back in
yeah it's back in
90s
yeah
when I used to go
and see
I went to see
Puff Daddy
in concert
late 90s
Julia Fox is just
very much
you know when you're like
if you were throwing
a couch out
they'd be like
don't throw it out
it's a waste
and then she'd have
a whole outfit made
like they'd be on
traps in the curtains
I wouldn't like to know
what that outfit
cost her
don't throw it out
it's a waste
it's a waste
it's still done now
I'll turn it into
a goona dress
you'll be great go into your dabs dressed as a curtain I'll turn it into a tragoona dress you'll be great
go into your
Jeb's dress as a
curtain
I'll look after that
did you ever
did you ever wear
those fluffy leg
warmers that you'd
make yourself out of
that rotten like
fluffy wall material
and you used to go
to those things like
winter party
do you not remember
those things in the
point
I think I went to
one of them
but no not really
like in the O2
like the O2
they used to have
these things for
like teenagers
and they'd be called
winter party and stuff and you'd be called Winter Party and stuff
and you'd wear these
fluffy leg warmers.
You'd get absolutely deranged
before you went in
because I don't know
if there was any booze with them
and then you'd score
as many people as you could.
Classic.
Do you remember?
Classic 90s.
You'd be lucky if you went home
without a cold sore.
That's what Julia Fox looks like.
Her outfit looks like
a home ec junior search project.
Genuinely, that's what it looks like.
Poor Julia.
And she got a C- first.
Like, I remember in Home Ec, I made my aunt a pillow.
And God love her.
Like, obviously, because she's my godmother, my aunt,
she had to have it out.
So I'd say it was down the back of the shed,
and then when I was coming over,
she took it out and put it right in the place.
It's the absolute worst when people get you stuff
and you're like,
please don't make me have that in my house.
It's the worst.
I know.
Theodore's always bringing shite home from nursery.
I'm like, get that out of here.
That's crap.
Yeah, I know.
I can't pretend to be invested in your potato art.
Get an actual talent, please.
Oh, poor T.
We love his art.
Really, we do.
Do you know who Julia Fox she's starting to remind me of?
She's got Heidi Montag vibes.
Yes.
She's got Heidi with the full length.
The denim ass bag
is very reminiscent of Heidi Montag
eating a bull's heart
out of a sandwich bag in town.
I feel like,
I feel like,
and I feel mean saying this
because she's kind of getting a bit desperate.
It's getting a bit desperate. It's getting a bit desperate.
It's getting a bit desperate.
Sorry, Julia.
However,
or she's an absolute genius
because she's given us
some amazing sound clips.
Oh, yes.
Now that you're on TikTok,
I guarantee
you're going to be doing some
thank you,
I do it myself.
Joanne,
oh, I will do things I thought.
Yeah, the lip syncing thing.
Things that I find funny
now that I'm a comedian
I am going to have
the best TikTok ever
who ruined your life
I think I have a TikTok
I just haven't used it yet
I don't know how to use it
I'm going to learn
this weekend
that's my job this weekend
to learn TikTok
I sound like my mum
when she's like
how do I do this
I'm like oh no
I feel like Julia Fox
is going to start making felt hats soon I think that's I feel like that's her next step oh god sorry I'm like oh no I feel like Julia Fox is going to start
making felt hats
soon
I feel like that's
her next step
oh god sorry
I'm actually going
on to TikTok
is this mine
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