My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "I feel like we shouldn't be together at Christmas..."
Episode Date: December 6, 2023Joanne & Vogue are back in the dressing room at The 3Arena in Dublin, for a little bit extra. Time to chat cowardly break ups and 'a kick in the gee'. If you’d like to get in touch, you can send... an email to hello@MTGMpod.comPlease review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com/For more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.Thank you!
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This is a Global Player Original Podcast. Thanks for having me, Joanne. I'm absolutely thrilled. Thanks for coming in. What have you got? A book? What's happening? What are you promoting here?
Well, actually, Spencer and Vogue are going on tour now that Ghost is...
You should.
You don't plug that enough on this.
You should plug that more.
Well, you came to the show.
Do you know what?
I think...
That's enough.
I think it's like with our show, people weren't really...
Like, they didn't know what to expect.
And like, they don't know what to expect and like they don't know what to expect
with Svenny and I
because we just
abuse each other on the podcast
yeah
so we do a little bit
well I have two points
one is
live podcasting
like the tours
are new territory
so no one
knows what to expect
and no one knows
what they're doing
yeah
what I would say is
having seen the
Spencer and Vogue
live show
and I was
I was emotional when I saw it
but obviously I'd taken a drink.
What was real emotion
what wasn't to this
we'll never know.
But I enjoyed it so much.
Do you remember
the messages I sent to you after?
Yeah.
Like gushing.
I was just
I say proud
and I don't mean that to sound condescending.
I just mean
that's what I mean.
And
seeing you go
from like
thanks for explaining it
so much to them
seeing you go
from never having done
stage stuff like that
to the joy
that was
the Spencer and Vogue show
I was like
this woman can do
anything
and I just loved it
so much
I was like your little
your little baby
you were
when you took me
on stage
for the first time
I know
and then and then you set me free stage for the first time. I know.
And then you set me free.
I know you don't, you won't like to admit this,
but I was kind of your mentor for about three weeks.
I was.
Folks started her career in, well, arenas.
Joanna's made me a comedian,
and now she's deeply regretting that decision.
I will see you at the commissioner's desk in Netflix
vying for our specials.
No, but seriously.
It's a fun show.
It's a really good show.
And I just,
I loved it.
And,
but the thing that you've
such a nice dynamic with him,
as much as it saddens me,
because I will kill him eventually.
Yeah.
So that we can live our own lives. Don't worry.
We're nearly finished there. I've already eyed up the space
in the garden he's going to go into. I'm not putting him
in the garden. We'll dust him somewhere. Yeah, you're right.
Let's burn him. We'll dust him somewhere he'd absolutely hate.
We'll take him to, I don't know, like...
I would take him to Toby
Carvery because he doesn't like the idea
of it. Does he not? I mean,
he doesn't like a Carvery, so I think there's something
unnatural about him. We'll take him to the Beaumont House. They do the best Carvery so I think there's something unnatural about him
we'll take him to the Balmont house
they do the best Carvery
so only the best for Spence
is this an ad
the best
that I just didn't get
you're getting no money
from Toby Carvery
anyway
we're going on tour
we're in Ireland next year
we're doing our Irish tour next year
put him in Ireland
I hate that
do you know what
I'll dust him on the cliffs of Hoth
he would hate that that's where dust him on the cliffs of Hoth he would
hate that
that's where he's going
the cliffs of Hoth
he's like
I'll have to go over
to those potato people now
because my wife's from there
oh god
I'll stuff Winnie
and then I'll put him
in Winnie
he would really hate that
yeah
like the
yeah
you're going to foie gras
Winnie with Spencer
with Spencer
that's a good idea
but anyway yes
we're on to where we start in March with Spencer with Spencer that's a good idea but anyway yes we're on tour
we start in March
in the Gaelic
so we did three
three Olympias
and then we're doing the Gaelic
we're doing Cork
and we're doing Belfast
nice
yeah it's a nice little run
yeah it is yeah
so we'd love to see you there
what role do I play?
I think you could
I would be pretty happy
for you to
we'll just
nothing lights
we'll just get sound I could mic you I wanted to tell you something, I would be pretty happy for you to, we'll just. Nothing lights. We'll just get.
Sound.
I could mic you.
I wanted to tell you something that I read about in the paper that I thought you'd love for some reason.
Go on.
A Saudi prince.
Oh my God.
Is this the falcon?
The falcons.
Yeah.
Was he raising them or something?
I think 80 falconry is like a big thing over there.
I would say it's because it's, it's quite epic, isn't it, falconry?
They were just sitting there,
they're probably shitting all over the place.
I'd say it's a real kind of kudos,
you know, signifier of wealth, I would say.
To have a falcon.
I met a falcon when I was in Spain recently.
You met a falcon.
So I met a falcon in Spain.
Just out and about.
Just out and about.
I swear to God,
he was on the strip in Marbella.
I'm not even joking you
he had an owner
obviously
handing out flyers
for linoleums
but I thought your man
yeah
I thought your man
was like going around
to get people
to take pictures
of the falcon
so basically
because there's a big
marina there
with really expensive boats
so what the falcon does
is the falcon goes around
and murders all the seagulls
and stuff like that
so the seagulls
don't shit in their boats
so the falcon is a murdering falcon stop yeah that and murders all the seagulls and stuff like that so the seagulls don't shit in their boats so the falcon is a murdering falcon yeah that just kills all the
seagulls well let's we just have to be clear all animals are murderers yeah that is true yeah you
know what i mean none of them are like putting their prey down ethically yeah yeah i haven't
met a vegan what i will say is a cheetah does it in quite a nice way.
They always go for the neck.
And I think that that's quite pleasant.
A hundred percent.
But again, like it is, you know, still.
Lions would eat a leg off first instead of just being like, I'll put it out of its misery.
They've no etiquette.
No.
Lions are rude.
And we know that.
So go on anyway.
Your man's raising the falcons.
So he's, this fella is bringing all the falcons on the plane.
It was on a flight in the United Arab Emirates.
This is normal in the Middle East. It's not unusual at all because it's such a popular sport over
there the falconry is a sport i'm not really sure what they do in the sport what do they do
hold on a second how is it a sport they just wear an oven glove and send them off and then bring
them back they go off and collect bits i'd say and bring them back like an assault course yeah
it's like a little yeah would you like to hear other weird shit that people have brought on They go off and collect bits, I'd say, and bring them back. Like an assault course. Yeah.
It's like a little, yeah.
Would you like to hear other weird shit that people have brought on planes?
A man was trying to bring 35 pounds of liquid cocaine into the US via shampoo bowls.
That's just dealing.
35 pounds of liquid.
I didn't even know cocaine could be liquid.
That's just mewling, really.
How is cocaine a liquid? Oh did he melt did he melt it down
and then rebuild it
like a candle?
Joke.
Google it there.
So a passenger was held
at the gate
when they rocked up
with their emotional support
boa constrictor snake.
Was I not talking about
the emotional support hedgehog
last week?
There was a hedgehog
and there was something else
that someone brought on.
The crocodile.
Remember?
Someone tried to bring
a crocodile in somewhere
as an emotional support animal.
I could be like
Alan's an emotional support person. I could be like,
Alan's an emotional support person,
I'm not paying for him.
Do you know what I mean?
Very true.
Where does it end?
Where's the line?
So a female Twilight fan had to pay extra to be allowed to board a plane
with life-size cutouts of Jacob and Edward,
the vampires from that movie.
What's it called again?
She had to pay.
Twilight, Twilight.
She had to pay extra.
She was taking up a seat
with cardboard cutouts
where are you going to put
a cardboard cutout
do you know where you would
do you know where you would
in one of your bags
they'd fit in one of your bags
I'd just be occupied
wouldn't have to do anything
with that
I feel like I had something to say.
Just, we have a WhatsApp group called Ghosted Pod Topics
where we just throw in
a line here, a line there,
maybe an article,
something we'd like to talk about
on the pod.
It's been quiet of late
due to the arena shows,
I have to say.
Yeah.
But Bo just randomly last night at half eleven just came into the group, kicking the gig.
And I'd like to know more.
Well, I'm glad you asked because it's a very interesting story.
That's why I invited you on the podcast today.
Yeah, I only want to talk about it.
I invited you on to my podcast because I knew that you were raising awareness for kicking in the gig.
And I want to know.
I want to know more about it.
Tell me, Bo, tell me.
Who doesn't like a little kick in the ghee
what
you tell me
I'm just going to say
I will kick you in the ghee
as soon as we stand up
this is
so I was
we were talking to
more false promises
Una our director
one of her friends
was discussing a story
about her
how her sister
got kicked in the ghee
about something
actually physically
kicked in the ghee
physically kicked in the ghee
for like kind of put out of your misery no just kicked in the ghee brought something actually physically kicked in the gi physically kicked in the gi for like kind of
put out of your misery
no
just kicked in the gi
brought down a peg or two
is it that like kind of
oh I kicked him in the
gi last night
have you never been
kicked in the gi
I honestly cannot say
that I
not that I remember
and I feel like that
would be a special
moment in my life
that I would
do your diary
or you know
that I would jot down
I remember
I have two gi stories
for you.
Oh, God.
We've been doing this pod
for two years.
How has it taken this long?
So the first key story
I have for you
is that Amber and I,
when we were growing up,
and like,
you know the way you used to
beat your sibling up?
Like, we would grab each other's legs
and boot each other in the game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we would do that.
But also, my friend Johanna,
when we were away
on our J1
in America
which is like a visa
you get for anyone
English listening
in Ireland
where you can all
go to America
for a while
and we went on the piss
and she punched me
in the gi
but I actually had
a bruise
oh well I've obviously
been punched in the gi
who hasn't been
punched in the gi
it's like
it's on our rider
quick translation
remind us the English
what a gi is
gi is a vagina
Joe is a gi
or in Wales
a foof
a foof
my first selfie
calls him a foof
which I think is quite sweet
I know
we still
I still haven't decided
what to tell Gigi it is
it's her front bum
or her gi
front bum is not acceptable
I know
my mum was like
front bum
I was like
this feels wrong
at bath time
I'm like
stand up and I'll wash you
will you in your bum
and then Gigi
I'm like
stand up and I'll wash your bum I just think I and then Gigi I'm like stand up and I'll wash
your bum
I just think
I just think
tell her it's not real
and just really
fuck her up
just be like
that's nothing
because I'm not
mentioning anything
she's like
my willy
and I'm like
no no no
no you don't
you don't have one of them
just give her an
old school Irish
rearing and be like
dirty
dirty
you're dirty
wrong
wrong
you're a wrong
mention it
okay I've got
that slit should not be there
oh Jesus Christ
sorry
sorry
remember we did that show
on E4
and she was like
I don't want to call it
a vagina
I want to call it
or was it you
calling it a womb portal
or was she calling it
a womb portal?
And she said
that vagina means
somewhere to like
land your dick
and she was like
I don't like that.
And I was like
well that kind of
makes sense to me.
You remember your one
Womb portal does sound
familiar.
I don't know if she said
womb portal or you said
womb portal
but I quite like
womb portal.
Womb portal yeah. I was thinking of But I quite like Womb Portal Womb Portal Yeah
I was thinking of
Calling my next show
Womb Raider
Why?
Dunno
It just rhymes
With Tomb Raider
And
But maybe
It's a bit annoying
That you have to think
Of another name
Because Prosecco Express
Was really good
Yeah well the only reason
I enjoyed Prosecco Express
Was because
It suggested like
Fun
And like Alcohol consumption Could you not Like call it something Like so we'd get loads only reason I enjoyed Prosecco Express was because it's it suggested like fun and like
could you not could you not like call it something like because so we'd get loads because you got
loads of Prosecco you could call it like Brian Thomas on the road or something so we could get
loads of free clothes from Brian Thomas yeah the porch portal yeah yeah
oh I also have some news
oh
sorry just because I saw
I feel like I had news
yeah I know
you've been saying that
since before we started
and I'm just waiting
for the news
did I not write
I had something to say
I swear I did
go on anyway
em
oh
I'm going to the Panto soon
but I just saw the email
that's your news
no but I've also so I haven't even gone to the Panto yet this year.
And you know how much I love organization.
I've already booked my Panto for next year.
21st of December, 2024, matinee, booked.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
No, no, no, no, no.
This just.
You're jealous.
This suggests you should be in a back to front jacket and a padded top.
You're jealous of it.
I know you're jealous in a back to front jacket in a padded cell you're jealous of it I know you're jealous
I have to
I will say
because when you
everyone in your life
kind of rubs off on you
if you spend time with them
and I have to say
I am a cleaner
more organised person
as a result
of spending so much time with you
that is true
I'm glad I've shamed you
and I will tell you
no no no no no no no no no there's no shame folk this is a shame free zone what i will say to you
is i've never drank more in my entire life exactly ever i'm drinking again i was drinking on the last
pot now i'm drinking on this pot i'm thinking on the tomato yeah exactly you've made me more
organized and i've made you more crack joanne i wanted to say something to you but i just don't
want joe to overhear. He doesn't hear it.
He has been drinking a lot on
this tour. Joe is choking to his nose.
He's like really lost the one
of himself. I know. There was a
bloody Mary at nine o'clock in the morning.
Excuse me? All right, Prince. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. God, okay. He's sucking himself up
now, removing one of his ribs.
Unblock, unplug.
The next thing.
Spenna would do that. he'd be one of those people
that would do that
I'd say
there's a few
Joe I don't know if you would
Spano loves himself so much
he wouldn't have to remove
the rib
he would just
make it work
he would
he would
he would
okay
emails
Vogue Joanne
what the fuck
oh yeah let's go
I like it already
I met a lad this summer I'm 23 he's 26 and we've had the best time Emails. Vogue Joanne, what the fuck? Oh yeah, let's go. I like it already.
I met a lad this summer.
I'm 23.
He's 26.
And we've had the best time.
We've met each other's families and everything.
He's not my usual type,
but I came out of a two year relationship and that's when he dropped into my life.
So I said, fuck it.
There have been no regrets until now.
That's what I said about Svenny.
Not my type, but fuck it.
Listen, I couldn't, I have.
I'm not even joking. Every man I'm with, I'm like Svenny. Not my type, but fuck it. Listen, I couldn't, I have... I'm not even joking.
Every man I'm with, I'm like, this is not my type.
I've no idea what my type is.
No, I know you're a pretty boy.
I don't slip through the net.
I don't, well, do you know what?
I don't like posh people.
He slips through the net.
Do you know why?
Because you want a bit of foreign, a bit of strange.
That's exactly it.
Yeah.
We were watching a film of mine the other night
and he just goes
I'm sorry
can we talk
I'm worried that I'm not
being honest with you
and I feel like we shouldn't
be together at Christmas
or words like that
because I can't remember
the exact crap
he came out with
she blacked out
you know
and you kind of can't
focus on what's being said
because your head's spinning
oh no
I asked what the fuck
he meant
and he was just like
I think we can try again in the
new year but it just doesn't feel right at the moment and i think we should be away from each
other at christmas i went up the fucking wall of course and went full begging i hate when that
happens pleading crying and shouting at the same time yeah i saw him once more since then but it
was just weird and awkward like what am i meant to now? Just have a holly jolly time and wait for this lad to waltz back in in January?
No.
I think he's giving you, he's trying to give you the long goodbye.
He's trying to do something.
He's trying to be kind.
He's trying to be kind, but he's, he, I think, I think, I hate to be the one to say this,
but I think he's broken up with you.
And I think that you need to try and come to terms with the fact that he's a coward and
couldn't do it properly.
And I can say, because I just, I don't know.
I get the impression, and because obviously me and Vogue talk a lot about men.
We love to talk about men.
I, like, I don't get the impression you've been broken up with that much.
I'm trying to rack my brain as to who has...
Who me?
Yeah.
Oh no, I haven't, of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I will take this. There was a couple... No, there was, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I will take this.
There was a, no, there was, no.
There was a couple.
I will take this email.
I'm just telling you, I have been broken up with people.
Like since when?
Like school?
I haven't gone out with that many people.
I'm always fucking married.
I haven't gone out with that many people either, but I can, I've a lot of people.
I've actually gone out with loads of people.
I haven't gone out with that many people. I'll count. One, two. Yeah. Four people. That's all I've actually gone out with loads of people I haven't gone out with that many people
I'll count
one, two
four people
that's all I've gone
and I've married two of them
so there hasn't been
and one of them broke up with me
I'm just a loser
who no one has ever
wanted to go out with
don't you dare
try and spin it like that
you
no but it is
think I've been in
long term relationships
for like 12 years of my life
and I'm only 26
so
so I long-term relationships for like 12 years of my life and I'm only 26.
So I,
when I,
I've actually gone out,
I've gone out with,
I've had a lot of year-long relationships.
They're long though.
I think that's long.
Yeah, they are,
but I've really racked them up.
Oh no,
the other fella dumped me,
remember?
Ghosted me.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But that wasn't a
super serious thing though
you were kind of just
messing around
no
excuse me
sorry
you sound like him
you're like hey
you stop calling me
what are you stressing about
I was with him
for like eight months
was it that long
yeah
yeah no that was scabby
what he did
that was mean
so excuse me
I've been dumped
you have
okay fine you're back in the chat thank you very mean so excuse me I've been dumped you have okay fine
you're back in the chat
thank you very much
I just know
I've been broken up
with so many times
and now that I'm older
I know
looking back
because
I had a funny
I had a funny stage
with lads
which I'd spoken about before
where
they thought I was different
to what I was like
and then they got to know me
they're like
this isn't actually
what I signed up for
and I was like
so obviously
once we started
I'd been completely insane
but
because of that
I've been
I've
I've had to let the penny
drop myself
to be like
oh he's actually
just breaking up with me
but doing it
he's trying to be
do it in bits
because everyone hates
doing that to someone
but yeah
this is what this man is doing
there's nothing you can do
the more you fucking
beg and fight back.
Don't try not to beg.
The more he's going to go.
But one thing I will say is.
If it's not right, it's not right.
And if it's not right for him,
it means it's not right for you.
That's it.
But what I will say is
because you always like to feel like
you've gotten a bit of your like self-respect
back when something bad happened.
Your power.
You need the power.
You need the power back.
So she has done all the begging and stuff.
Leave it.
Even that guy that ghosted me
came crawling back
and I said
fine I will come back
you went
I'll be over in seven minutes
I've been waiting
three years for this text
how dare you
I'll see you in seven minutes
I haven't heard from you
in four months
but I will be over
at 6.30
don't be late
it's actually
what happened
is it
stop
and then I got ditched again
oh wow I don't even think I got ditched again. Oh wow.
I don't even think I got the right
the second time around.
There's so much power playing going on
and it's not even in a cruel way.
They're just doing it subconsciously.
You can kind of
regret things
you're like oh god
that person
I should have actually
given that a bigger go
and then when they
take you back so quickly
you're like actually
no if they're not
it's all
it's just the mind
playing tricks on you
and I think being 23
like go and live a life
you're like
you don't want to be
you're not spending
Christmas with him
are you
no you're not
and at least you don't
have to buy a Christmas present for him
there are no torsos
I know
but the pain of rejection
is worse
than
anything
I was thinking about this
in the taxi
and I don't know why
and I was thinking about
heartbreak
and how horrific
and awful it is
and it is the worst thing
it's the worst feeling
in the world
it is the worst
and like
we joke about it all the time
but we honestly say
as two women
whose dads died
my heartbreak
that I've had over the years
was significantly worse
and like
that's the truth
there's no rejection
in death
it's painful
your father
like
when someone you're in love with
chooses to not
that's all you see
you're like
I'm not good enough
they've chosen not to be with me
what's wrong with me
blah blah blah
but actually if you can change your way of thinking do you know what you need to do
go and fucking google therapist Jeff on TikTok I find him really helpful you need to change your
way of thinking are you working for TikTok like is there something I've missed out on because
you're always talking about the TikTok what are you talking about I went the news I need you to
I need you I need you to help me I meant that psychology book that I was reading. She was reading The Guardian again.
Oh, my thesaurus is beeping.
Hold on.
If you can change your way of thinking,
where if you can develop this almost like Buddhist thing of like,
if it's not for me, it's not for me.
And you just kind of, I know it's, I can say that.
Because I would deal with that now.
If that happened to me now,'d be like do you know what
it's not right
if it's not right for them
it means it's not right for me
I want to be with someone
who wants to be with me
like all those things
and you just need to get there
with your head
and the way to get through
with your head
is honestly
just watch loads of shit
on TikTok about it
and nice quotes
nice quotes
nice quotes
watch some short
TikTok psychology videos
Esther Perel as well
Esther Perel all that
get into the psychology of it and try like i mean light psychology obviously like you know
bubblegum psychology and understand that it's not it's nothing is personal ever ever it's all
about that well not just tiktok like if you if you think that like you're like that upset, therapy is amazing.
It's so amazing.
Oh my God.
Therapy.
Yeah.
I used to skip out of therapy when I was in my crisis point.
And then by the time I got off the bus, I was sad again.
But then the time that I was happy got longer and longer and longer the more I went.
Yeah, I agree.
And now I'm ecstatic all the time.
We're thrilled.
Thank you very much for listening to The Bonus.
That's it, John John have you remembered it
or no
no
okay that's fine
it was big news though
it was really big news
yeah it was something
Joanna's really big news
she just can't announce it yet
I can't remember
she can't announce it yet
she'll announce it next week
yeah I'm going to pretend
I just can't legally announce it yet
but I honestly just have forgotten
what it is
something big though
something's coming
I'm excited
I am excited for it am I engaged or something
what's happening
no you're not engaged
you're not engaged
no no no
anyway I'll get it
for next week
I have used
that silver shampoo
in my hair
I didn't know
you know the purple shampoo
for blonde people
I didn't know you couldn't
Lee has just told me
I could use it once a month
I've used it four times in a row look my hair's gone grey I did know that I didn't know you couldn't leave as you're telling me I could use it once a month I've used it four times in a row look
my hair's gone grey I did know that
I didn't know that
the purple shampoo it tones
it like it's a toner basically I think
so we were leaving you with that information thank you so
much for listening and never ever be grey
would we not have ended on the psychology
high of Esther Burrell we had to finish on a low
I was just trying to give a bit of advice
so nobody has to look like me
folks trying to defend
the fact she's gone
completely grey
alright listen
we'll see you next week
bye Thank you.