My Therapist Ghosted Me - MTGM EXTRA! "I hate scarves. I'm very against them"

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

This week Vogue and Joanne help a listener who may just be being strung along by a married man... Plus, Ryan Reynolds' exes, and Pierce Brosnan.If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [e-mail] review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.comFor more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.Thank you!

This is a Global Player original podcast. Good morning. Welcome to my therapist ghosted me. It's a bonus episode today, which comes out on a Wednesday. You seem like, is that your church voice? Oh, whatever I'm under pressure to speak I just, I become a different person, I don't know what it is. Which is unfortunate because I literally speak for a living but there you go. I was thinking about that because when my voice kept going, I was like, what would I

do? Like I'd be in serious trouble. Serious trouble. That's why they all look after their voices, like singers and stuff. I mean, that's practically singers. We're basically Adele. We're songstresses. I did buy a, cause Chris Evans has this thing where he sucks up a vapor and he has it sitting on the desk and I bought one but his was quite expensive. I got one for a fiver, I haven't used it yet but I'm assuming it does the same thing. So sorry how it sucks up a vapor what on earth does that mean? So you put hot water in it and then you suck it and the hot water is meant to be really good on your voice.

Oh for god's sake! Chris is doing that for the radio. For the radio. Yeah. Well, he's taught. There's a lot of talking goes on in the radio. Well, yeah. Yeah. So he needs to look after his voice. I've heard the radio before. I know how it works. Have you? I have one. Yeah. I have a radio somewhere in the house. Can I say something I have to say to you and... Hit me. I told you so, right? I've been giving you all these options of men, okay? And you've been sneering at them. Oh God, go on, who, what?

There's an entire thread about one of the men I suggested. Okay, he's married, right? But that was an obstacle. Is this Pierce Brosnan? Yes. Now, aren't you, right? That was an obstacle. Is this Pierce Brosnan? Yes. Now, aren't you, aren't you kicking yourself? I actually was only scanning the World Wide Web this morning and I saw some article about Pierce at that he's really sound. Is that the article you're talking about? He's basically the kind of one of the five male actors who hasn't been accused of sexual assault is kind of, he's the last one standing really.

Yeah. The only ones left are him, Dave Grohl, Keanu Reeves, supposedly. Yes, yes, I heard that. Yes, yes. And I'd say, I don't know David Grohl's personally, but I'd say he just hasn't been in a room with us, Fog, if he was in a room with us, allegedly, I'd say he'd have a go. What do you mean you don't know? You and Dave Grohl are practically married.

Like you've been in each other's Instagrams. I danced above him. Indeed, I did dance above. I lap danced for David Grohl, but he didn't know I was doing it. And neither did I, actually. I only saw the footage when it came out the next day. But I was really giving it socks at you two in the section above, David Grell's. Is it Grell's or Grell's?

Grell's. I just said the same thing twice there. Is it Grell's, Grell's? Is it Grell's or is it Grell's? It's Grell's. It's neither of those things that you just said. What was that thing I said in the last step? Oh, streamers.

I was listening to that because I listen back to all the episodes. And the streamer thing, I actually, I nearly said, let's take that out. I really sound stupid. And then I was like, no, tough luck. Now you'll learn next time. What streamers? What did you say? I was like, the streamer was streaming. Oh yeah. What else would they be doing?

I mean, he's just telling me that people talk on the radio. I mean, if I were you, I'd have that removed. But there you go. Joanne, it's nine AM. I'm not sure if you're awake yet. Oh, it's like, can I do this from bed? I was like, I could just turn on the laptop there. Very busy day today. Very busy day. What are you doing, Sue? What are you doing? I'm facial. In Edinburgh? Yeah, they do facials in Edinburgh. Yeah, and they talk on the radio. It's funny that you've hunted things out up there.

Well done. Oh, and you've got a bouncy blow, am I right? I've got a bouncy blow. I've got a face. Okay, look, there's a lot of grooming going on, but in my defense, I've been working very hard up here. Very hard. And then I have a meeting with my accountant, which I'm absolutely terrified about because

I've spent all my money boosting myself on Hinge for £13.99 a day. And then I have my show and then I have a variety show tonight and I'm going to see a show. So yeah, okay, look, it's a nice day out for myself, if I'm being honest. Who's show are you going to see? Her first show at the Fringe, you know? I haven't seen, I haven't been to a single show. I'm going to see Kat Cohen. She's an American comic. I've heard of her actually. Strange, you know, if I've heard of her. Yeah, she's big. She's a big one. So I'm going in to see her. Can I just tell you some things about Pierce? We'll call him Pierce. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry. Pierce. Yeah, yeah.

So it all started with Halle Berry and she said, Pierce Brosnan restored my faith in men on the James Bond set. There couldn't be a human who was more of a gentleman. Swoon. Swoon. Although we probably wouldn't like that after a while. I like to be treated like shit. This doesn't sound like a runner for me. I know someone who when working as a concierge at a fancy hotel accidentally bumped into Brosnan.

While she was crossing the lobby in a hurry she said I'm so sorry and he put his hand gently on her wrist and replied entirely my fault. I'm so glad I didn't know where that was going. That seems fine doesn't it? A wrist? That's fine he can touch my wrist I consent. I know because she usually is so like do you ever get in a picture with some people and they're very like very waisty and it's like, that's a bit too wastey for me. Well, I'm usually, I've only ever get photos with women, so no.

I don't think I've ever had a photo taken with a man. Maybe three in my whole career. They really don't care for them. They really don't want them with me. I actually put it down to my height sometimes because sometimes, because women have done it as well, where they'll put their hand on my arse and I'm like, it's because they actually don't know the ratio of my body. I genuinely think that they're like, Oh my God, I thought I thought her legs would have started by now. They don't realize I've got the long bod.

So it goes in the arse. I think you're being incredibly kind there. And I think it's a, it's, but it's a fair defense of sexual assault. Like she's just really tall. I didn't actually know. I didn't realize I was committing a crime by grabbing her arse. I thought it was her back. Well, it's happened so many times to be honest with you, but it's not in a sexual way. I swear it's because it's because of the size of me there's so many things that like that like change things in my life. People see you train. They watch you train all the time they want a cup of feel. I would. Would you Imo? I would if I would. Well girls you're completely welcome to as friends of

mine you can do whatever you want okay and I haven't had sex in 40 days so whatever you want. Whatever you need baby. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. Honestly and I've started fancying people. Emma didn't I fancy someone yesterday? Emma was like what? So I really, that man better come home quick smart because obviously 40 days is my limit. I'm not going to say who I fancied because he might hear it. Okay fine. Sorry. Is it Joe? No. Yes. It's gonna be really awkward if you start banging Joe. What lie did you? It's not, it's not Joe. You can just wait. After you've really left eight.

Do you know, weirdly you're talking about Pierce Brosnan, do you know who else I was kind of, I don't know why I was having a look at today? Who? Do you know the amount of famous girlfriends Ryan Reynolds, I think this is because Blake Lively is getting absolutely torn apart on the internet at the moment. Absolutely rinsed. And can I just say one thing, I think she seems like a nice girl and I don't think you can marry to Ryan Reynolds if you're a bastard.

Yeah, I'd say she has her moments. I'd say we're I mean, no one is perfect and everyone, you know, you know, I'd say she I'd say she has a what is she here? I haven't. I wouldn't be. He's like, he's like on the scene, I haven't seen her. He's trying to allure me to something. What? I think if people are coming out saying that you're an absolute horror to work with, sometimes that can be true. Oh yeah, I do believe, but I believe if you have a long career, you're going, there's times where you're going to be a dick. Do you know what I mean? Like, unless you make it your entire personality that you're not a dick, which Keanu Reeves has done. I don't think it's hard to not be a dick though, but what I'm saying is, I, like, supposedly she didn't get on with Leighton Meester in Gossip Girl, but like, that's not to say that was her fault and Blake would ask the crew out for

drinks and stuff like that, whereas Leighton wouldn't want to do that. So then it's like, well, if they didn't get on, it doesn't mean that they're like, no, of course not. Of course not. And I did think that there was an interview went viral where she was kind of rude to the interviewer. The interviewer said congratulations on your little bump. And for some reason, Blake just really didn't appreciate it. And she was quite cattie to her. And I mean, as a standalone piece, she doesn't look that sound in that piece of content. Maybe she was having a bad day? I don't know. Who are we to judge? Well she was pregnant I suppose so sometimes you can just be angry with the world when you're pregnant for no reason. It's like having your period for 10 months.

Yeah fair. And like you know, yeah she looked like a bit of a dick there. Sorry Blake if you're listening but she looked like a bit of a dick there. I'm sure you're fine. Anyway, so I was looking, I was kind of scrolling through all that shit and then it went into Blake, not Blake, sorry, that's her. Ryan Reynolds ex-girlfriends. I, did you, okay, name as many Ryan Reynolds ex-girlfriends as possible. Kirsten Dunst, why do I feel like he went out with her? Didn't. Well I know

he was married to Scarlett Johansson. He was yeah. I don't know I can't I have to be honest I don't know that much about Ryan Reynolds only that he did the football club thing that he's meant to be really sound so that's why I think because Ryan Reynolds is meant to be so sound that's why I think that she has to be sound but saying that sometimes like some guys that I know are gonna with girls that are not that sound. I'm gonna I'm gonna list out Ryan Reynolds ex-girlfriends because it's quite an impressive list. Okay. Alanis Marsat.

That is what I was not expecting that. I know they're both Canadian. All Canadian people go out with each other you have to go out with a Canadian before you hit anyone else. That's what the rules are over there. We've all done that. We've had our Irish dalliances and now we're free to date outside of our culture, but you have to start at home. 100%. I agree with that. Kristen Johnson, who was in 30 Rock. Not 30 Rock. Yeah, 30 Rock. Do you remember her?

That was a 30 Rock. No, the one about the aliens. Let me see. Kristen Johnson. Emma. Third Rock from the Sun. Yes! Third Rock about the aliens. Let me see, Kristen Johnson. Emma. Third Rock from the Sun. Yes! Third Rock from the Sun. Then he went out with Melissa Joan Hirst. Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Color fire a real name, no one knows that other name. Sorry, I know, I apologize. I misidentified her there, I dead named her. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Scarlett Johansson who we knew. Some other people who I didn't recognize. Charlize Theron.

What? She is meant to be the biggest ride in real life as well. Like she's meant to be kind of get a fright when you see her because she's so good looking. Frighteningly hot. Sandra Bullock. What? The man has a very impressive list of lovers. I mean, fair play to him. He is, what age is he? Riding rings around himself.

They're a great caliber of woman, in my opinion now. And can I just say all of them also seem sound. They do seem sound, so Blake's kinda letting, anyway, look, we don't wanna turn on a woman. Now I feel, I just, I think, and plus Blake So Blake's kind of letting anyway, look, we don't want to turn on a woman. Now I feel I just, I think I plus Blake live with his friends with Taylor Swift. So let's not fuck with her. Okay. I'm an ally. I'm an ally. I want to be a Taylor Swift ally for sure. And he's kind of same age as me. I just, I really need to get cracking. My list is not impressive at all. To be honest. I really need to kind of I need some.

Do you know what I need? I need a fucking I need a celebrity romance. No, you don't. Where's that for me? He's 47, by the way. He's older than you. You don't want I'm glad a lot of my romances have been kept hidden. You obviously know them, Joanne, and a lot of them are so embarrassing that, like, I just wouldn't want them to ever come out. I don't know. I don't think so. I think most of them are so embarrassing that like, I just wouldn't want them to ever come out. I don't know, I don't think so.

I think most of them are fine. Like they're good crack, yeah we laugh and stuff, come on. I completely forgot about him. Yeah. I totally forgot about that one, yeah. I take the Nora Ephron approach, everything's copy, everything's a story. Like it's all good crack at the end of the day

if everyone survives it. That's a story, it's all go crack at the end of the day if everyone survives it. Ah, 100%. That's my take on it. And I just feel like I am owed one celebrity, you know, like one, you know. What? I've offered so many to you now and I actually think that you're being really hostile about it, you've no interest and now you're upset about Pierce but like I gave, I offered him months ago and you haven't even

You're offering me older gay men Pierce is not gay and Robert De Niro We don't know if he's gay Robert De Niro is not gay and I've told you you don't have long left We don't know if he's not gay Listen does that really matter to you? Everyone in showbiz is gay Vogue When I get into showbiz, I'll be gay as well.

Speaking of gays, moving on. Yeah. It's got nothing to do with gays. It's just emails. That's a great segue. It's the email. There you go. Do you know what we should get? We should get a little jingle. Yeah. I mean, we've kind of tried and all that. Our jingle is, I can't even sing it now because we're talking. What's our theme? Do you remember? Joe obviously bought our theme tune off the internet for five pounds. Do you remember it was used on some Asian shopping website to sell scarves?

I was like, where's that coming from? He obviously just bought it off some cheap website, some jingle website. It's like it's used on all these shopping channels. We're not endorsing the scarves. Do you remember when scarves were such a thing? Like when we were like 18, 19, you had a different color scarf for every outfit and you wouldn't be caught dead going anywhere without a scarf. I hate scarves. I'm very against them. And I can tell you now a man in a scarf. Good luck. Get up the road. Would you like to do some listener emails? I wouldn't do it. So we've got loyalty points. Oh, or he won't admit he has a family.

Oh, well, I mean, there's... I'm going to go for the second one there. I'm going to go. I'm going to take he won't admit he has a family, please. I'll tell you what, like that happens more often than we think. And I know people whose dad had a completely separate family for years and years and years. It's so wild. I know. Yeah, I know. Yeah. How did they get away? How? Where is it at the time?

Yeah, but that's sociopathic, I think, to be able to like to put two boxes there and just be able to completely keep them separate. It's like, or maybe even psychopathic. Yeah, we don't know the term, but like to live a lie to that extent and involve all these innocent people in your bullshit seems incredibly cruel and incredibly selfish. So, but like I know there's somebody right that I know and like really like him and like he just started telling lies and you know it's's like, dude, like, we know you're telling us lies and you're looking at him and you're watching him tell the lies and

you're like, okay, he's just going to keep telling the lies and we're just going to have to. I find that so weird when people lie like that. Is it about is it is it about having another family? No, but it's about kind of important stuff as well, where you're just like, like lying where he's been, but like what country he's been and everything is just really weird. Anyway. Very strange, very strange. Here we go.

Hi Vogue and Joanne, please don't say my name in the pod while I can't see it so I won't say it. Otherwise I would have said it. We're here to out everyone. I'm terrible. I am terrible with secrets. I'd rather not know. Don't, the second John, he'd tell me a secret. I'd be like, no, I won't tell anyone. And I'm literally ringing Amber on the other ear. I'm like, no, I won't tell anyone. Just Amber, you know Amber's going to know.

There's no such thing. I'm head over heels for a guy I work with. We've been seeing each other for eight months and it all started after he told me that his marriage was over and he was just waiting on a divorce I knew he still lived with his wife at the time but he said she knew he was seeing other people and so was she eight months in and I've only ever seen him at mine or miles away from where we live I've asked him why we have to be so secretive and he says it's to stop people talking I know this whole thing is a massive red flag and I'm upset with myself for getting involved, but the excuses are

mounting up and I'm becoming sure that his marriage isn't over and I'm just the other woman. No. There's no, do you know, I read this stat on adulterers and like it's something like 97% of them will never leave their wife. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. Because I read that book Green Dot, which is very good.

I think it's by Madeleine Gray. I read it ages ago and I was looking up all the stats around divorce because it's about an affair and that's kind of one of them. I've done the investigative stuff while his wife posted a family photo two months ago She doesn't post much else So maybe it was just an old photo from memories But it knocked me for six and when I asked him about it, he said it was nothing and they don't really talk at all now He's even shady about whether he even still lives with her Apparently he stays over sometimes with the kids and his new place is too close by

There's just always an excuse and I believe it because I want to. I can't just end up because I'm completely in love with him and I think he's just gotten himself into a tricky situation that he doesn't know how to get out of. What do I do? Well, I... So sorry, just to recap there. So he's, we think he's still living with his wife. He's now, he's kind of saying he has his own place, but she can't go over there because

it's too, it's too near to the ex-wife. Well, I think you know yourself that he's 100% lying to you and especially that you've written it down. You know that he's lying to you, but this is obviously really difficult for you as well. But I think that if I was you, I'd go into serious, protect myself mode because it's just going to get worse. And by the sounds of it, he is lying, lying, lying to you. I also would say just to play devil's advocate, I have witnessed people trying to leave marriages

or leaving marriages and it seems to be an incredibly difficult thing to do. So there could be truth in what he's saying, as in he just doesn't want to rock the boat with his ex-wife or wife or whatever term he's using because he doesn't want to upset her or he's not ready to jump into something else yet. I mean, people leaving marriages seems to be an incredibly traumatic thing for people and everyone's trying to respect the other person and not hurt their feelings. There could be truth to what he's saying. I don't know. I don't know. I think it's been going on for eight months.

The wife posted, or the ex-wife posted a picture two months ago. Why would you post a picture of your ex-husband and your kids and stuff if like you're not together? You just wouldn't do it. Yeah. I just think that there's too many- Maybe she wants them to, she maybe wants them to stay together

and he doesn't want to stay together. I mean, it's pretty sneaky. Well, why won't he have her over to the house? Why won't he like see her anywhere near where they live? They have to go miles out. All of it is just a bit stinky. Yeah, yeah, it's a bit shady. I think give it a go. I think he sounds great.

You know, there's not a lot of men out there, so. I think this sounds really positive. Well that's woman on hinge. Yeah, see him. Date him. I think you need to protect yourself big time and I always feel like if he does it to what starts in chaos ends in chaos, so I'd be very careful about it. And you don't want to hurt yourself even more. I know it's going to really hurt if you're trying to pull back now. But it's going to be even more painful if you wait and fall more and more in love

with him. They'll leave you as they find you. Isn't that the saying? I was with a guy years ago and he cheated with me and then of course, cheated on me because that's what they do. But yeah, good luck with this. I'd find it exciting. And I would be behind Joanne being like, please Joanne, please no, no. And I would be behind Joanne being like, please, Joanne, please, no, no. Isn't it so funny that the lies you tell yourself, I was listening to some of the other day and they were talking about kind of the delusion that goes because you don't want to believe what's in front of you. You just don't want to.

So you choose not to. And you accept the absolute nonsense they're feeding you because it's just easier on the soul. So much easier. You're not actually having an affair with the married man because he's told you or not. You're like, okay, okay, fine. I didn't cheat on you. Okay, fine.

Grant, whatever. I honestly would, I've started seeing my therapist again, but not that often, but I see him every so often. And I would like, please go and speak to a therapist about all this. I just think it's so helpful. I think that they're going to be like your honest person to talk to your sounding board. And maybe you don't feel comfortable talking to your friends about something like this. Or I think that you just need somebody to be able to knock some sense into you because sometimes they do that. Also as well, he's certainly whether he's still married or not still married, he's

definitely treating you like a bit of a side chick, regardless of whether it's because he is still actually married or because he's not ready to be in something properly because he's still kind of trying to handle the breakdown of his marriage. You know, so there is that to be said as well. And that doesn't go. That doesn't go. You're always the side chick then, you know. And some women don't mind that, but it sounds like she wants to be the main chick. No, yeah. You don't have side chick energy. You're grand. Ignore him. Me?

Well, you neither. You neither. But the listener. Oh, sorry. This woman this woman yeah yeah. I was like thank you. That's it I think for this week. John you do the out as well. How do we get out of it? The out is always quite hard I find it's like well we'll see you next week. That's it for this week. I've been Joanne McNally, she's been Vogue Williams, that's been Emma, Jo's... Where's Jo? You're not Jo? What?

What the fuck?