Nerd Poker - S5E19 TEN YEAR CELEBRATION! (with surprise Gerry Duggan)
Episode Date: November 29, 2022Nerd Poker is turning 10 years old! And Dan has something sneaky up his sleeve to surprise the rest of the cast, but you get to know before you listen. Gerry shows up, and we all sip wine and Scotch w...hile goofing off, talking about old games, doing bits way off the rails, and generally being dumb.Â
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Hey everybody, I'm Brian Poussin, Comedian, writer, actor, nerd.
I've been playing D&D with my friends for a long time.
I decided to do a new podcast where we play Dungeons & Dragons in my very own dining room.
With my wife, kid, and my noisy dogs.
So meet my friends...
Sarah
Kev
Dan
Lee
Chris
Now it's time for another episode of Brian Poussaint's Nerd Poker.
Hey, it's Billy.
Season five.
Hey, everybody.
I'm Brian Poussaint.
You're listening to my podcast here.
It's called Nerd Poker.
Yeah.
And it's me and my friends, and we sit around and we play D&D.
You know that.
Episode 19 of season five
that was uh dan laughing let's say hi to him first hey brian buddy remember when i laughed
really loud during john wick 2 and you were like dan i think you have adhd no one laughs
like that when they don't have ad. And I was like, yes. Yes, Brian.
Did I really?
Yeah, remember when the horses started?
Oh, no, I remember the laugh.
The laugh was amazing.
Chris?
Hey, Brian, what a nice little podcast
you have here. I might set and stay a while.
Yeah, it's just my friends playing D&D, that's all.
Oh, cool.
Are you interested in the Bible?
Sarah's here.
Hi, hello, it's me.
Hey, Sarah.
Hi, are you just skipping over that Bible question?
What?
Are you just skipping the Bible question?
Ken's here, everybody.
Hey, Ken.
For the Lord so loved. Blaine.
Blaine. Blaine.
Thank God. I mean, fuck.
Finally, you're one of us. He has risen, right
guys? God damn it.
Michael Rowe, you're both.
Fuck. Hallelujah.
Sam's here.
Hello, saved children.
Yeah.
Hallelujah.
Let's jump in.
How are you, buddy?
I'm good.
I'm very, very good.
And your dog as well.
Yeah, I've switched my desk back around so now you guys can check in.
Wait, wait, wait.
Nothing.
But yeah, he's good.
I love the pink tree.
You got a pink Christmas tree
yeah it's about that time of year the Dolly Parton tree goes up
yay
Dolly
get to work
yeah boss
let's do it
Brian shall I thank some folk
I wish you would
hey folk I would like to thank Patreon supporters
at our top two tiers of support.
And y'all, this is a very special episode.
If you're getting thanked this episode, holy shit, it's the 10-year anniversary of NerdPoker.
And we are thanking supporters like Consensual Cannibalism.
Blah, blah, blah.
Thank you, Philadelphia Collins, a.k.A. The Mustard Tiger
Thank you Dad Dad Daddy-O
Thank you Sean
Why do we only get Nerd Poker stuff on here?
I want to shout out other great Patreons
Like Escher Girls and Read It and Weep
Alright, why don't you go thank them on their own goddamn part
Thank you Grotch Sabat Thank you Stabby McNeedles Thank you Doom Vault read it and weep all right why don't you go thank them on their own goddamn part thank you
grotch sabat thank you stabby mcneedles thank you doom vault thank you rick miller thank you
brian's ravenak ravenak i don't know what that word is do y'all yeah it's the creature that
eats me in um mandalorian oh yeah but do you know how to pronounce it? I think it's Ravnik.
Sweet. That sounds very Star Wars-y,
Ravnik.
Thank you.
Sean McKinley.
Thank you, Castaway Cuties Booty Cooties.
Thank you, Jim. The Jim motherfucking Price.
Thank you, John
M. Emmer.com. It's pronounced
Emmer like emergency. Uh-oh. I still
love you, Dan, And I forgive you.
Thank you.
Iron brush painting on Etsy for your miniature needs.
Thank you.
Rock arm rabbit.
Thank you.
All the little people.
Ha ha.
Thank you.
George.
George.
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George.
George.
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George.
George.
George.
Thank you.
The other eight fingers,
not up your ass.
Then you play the Charlie Brown,
like Christmas music to show the loneliness of those eight fingers.
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the battle bard.
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to rob a safe thank you aiden the s is silent. Jervais. Thank you, Tortilla the Hun.
Or Tortilla the Hun.
I know that guy.
Thank you, the recent Supreme Court decision makes me nostalgic for the time Blaine killed that kid.
It is that bad, folks.
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Thank you, Dildo District Manager.
Thank you, Jonathan Mayer.
Thank you, LV Vallis.
Thank you, Sir Richard's infected hand.
Who here remembers? Did you, Sir Richard's infected hand. Who here remembers?
Did you forget Sir Richard's infected hand?
I didn't forget, Jerry.
No.
Well, that's good.
I'm glad you didn't forget, Jerry.
That's really special.
But hey, Blaine, who are those Patreon supporters brought to us by?
Patreon supporters brought to us by 912, 2 in the 7, 1 in the 11, open all night.
Wide open.
And my doctor said my neck, my open all night wide open and my doctor said
my neck my back my pussy
and my lanta dan
aww thank you blaine
so uh
this
is uh gross first of all blaine
uh but yeah this is the
10th anniversary episode so
our heroes
are approaching the keep of the evil lich and as
they try to ascertain how to get from this outer wall they've been traveling through ascertain
ascertain you creeps so uh yes you're you're approaching but your characters are gonna just
just just take a break will they take a long? We'll figure that out on episode 20.
But.
Ascertainus.
Right now, we are going to talk about just some.
Ascertainus.
This is going to be a really goofy episode with lots of stuff like Brian singing that song.
We are just going to talk about some old school D&D stuff, some nerd poker stuff.
I've prepared some questions I'm going to ask everybody, but also shit can go way off the rails because guess what? We've got a special guest who I invited to pop
in. What?
Who? Hello.
Yay.
Terry Douglas.
No way. How are you?
What a genuine delight.
I've missed you all.
I just talked to you today and you didn't tell me you were doing this.
You son of a bitch.
I love getting last minute invites to 10 year old parties.
We didn't forget Jerry.
I poured for your 10 for our 10.
A liquid. Ohwood single malt.
What's the name of it?
Single cask single malt.
Where's it from?
Say the name again.
It's a Linkwood.
I don't know Linkwood.
We can pretend it's Glynishmore.
Yeah, it should be.
I don't know Linkwood.
I think it's Speyside.
I may have the region wrong. I think it's Speyside. I'm not sure of the region wrong, but
this is a sherry bomb. I don't know if you can
see it.
Sherry goodness.
Is it from a sherry cask?
Is that why?
This was aged
12 years in sherry.
Sweet
is all of you.
Cheers.
Thanks for being here.
Oh my gosh, are you kidding?
So 10 years, it's also,
Brian, I didn't realize this,
the podcast
portion of this is as old
as our
first
Marvel collaboration.
We had 10 years of Deadpool last week.
Man, we were busy 10 years ago.
We were busy.
Yeah, the kids were self-sustaining, I guess.
We could turn back to our nerdy pursuits.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
So 10 years from the start of Deadpool?pool yeah we were the first marvel now book
uh right november 7th 2012 and then i guess we launched so what was the date of the first
it was today right so 17th no ish from nerd From Nerd Poker? What's the actual Nerd Poker anniversary, Dan?
That's a great question. I do
want to point out that I barely remembered
it was the 10th anniversary. I have to give a shout
out to the guy who runs the
Nerd Poker Quotes Twitter
account, who I run
a game for, for hire.
His name is Benjamin Dawes.
He's a very cool dude, and he was like,
Dan, he was like, Dan, it's the 10-year anniversary of very cool dude and he was like dan thank you he was like dan it's
the 10 year anniversary of nerd poker well you were i was like i was like huh you were with us
10 years ago you're with us i was with you six years ago per my name that i put it here but i'm
googling it was it looks like it was released on november 28th 2012 which is like a little bit
before this episode is going to air, I think.
But the other thing to keep in mind, too, is is we played for 10 years before we started
the podcast, which is a big reason I'm hoping it'll be fun to have Jerry here.
Yeah, because he remembers that era much more than I do.
I just remember I remember those all day Sundays at Chris Hardwick's office.
Yes.
That's very insane.
We didn't do too many of those, but they were fun.
Yeah.
A handful of those, right?
We all had chairs and a big table.
Yeah, here we go.
Business executives.
And I don't want to leave Chris Tallman out, but which of you guys were playing Halo?
There was a group of Halo people who had like a LAN party, right?
Sarah was in that too.
That's how I got playing D&D
because I knew Sark
and Jerry, obviously.
I heard about those parties.
They were in the
rolling hills of Griffith
under the observatory.
At least 16 people.
Brewster's Manor.
Four TVs, four TVs,
four,
four,
four machines on each TV.
So just like every Saturday night,
it's like,
this is what I was doing in my 20s.
We would go till sunrise.
I was so jealous.
I had a couple of times,
obviously,
I mean,
I fall asleep here,
but even back then,
20 years ago, I would, I'd fall asleep here but even back then 20 years ago i would uh
i'd fall asleep and then we would have the controllers would be plugged in so it would
pop out of the pop out of the tv and somebody'd go posain and i'd wait it'd be 4 30 in the morning
and i'm on pageant's floor i asked pageant once i, why do you let us abuse your friendship like this?
And she said, look at you.
You guys are all going to be like driving drunk into trees and stuff.
I'm saving your lives.
And then went to bed like a mask on her face.
Yeah.
She's here.
She would do stuff, too.
Like some nights she would have like a party sort of in one part of the house.
And then it would be us and Paulul f on the patio smoking and me
smoking my stuff way before it was legal uh yeah nothing had me wondering if i was on the right
path more like noticing that there was like a party with like paget and some friends and
maybe some suicide girls or people taking pictures and then me playing video games inside
and going, maybe I should go outside.
Touch some grass or
they'd be doing fetish
modeling in the backyard and
20 dudes are on
a video game machine instead of not
even looking.
Hello, I was here.
You can fly.
You were out watching the fetish modeling?
You know, they were right outside sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
It would be rude to ignore it, I think.
Yeah.
What a nice place, too.
That was a nice.
That was a cool house.
I didn't have money.
No, I know.
It was a cool house.
It became sort of an ongoing poker game that we wouldn't even lose money on.
People would bring their own beer and food and share.
And then all sorts of guests would come through.
I don't recall Bob being particularly effective at Halo, but he would show up and play some games and shake his head at all of us and take off.
It was fun yeah it's a weird
collection of people and it is how i met a lot of the people that i still know in la and when if you
trace it all the way back it's very strange to be like oh how did you meet so and so it's like
oh uh yeah we played halo you know blowing each other's heads off and playing capture the flag
like while we were adults yep by the way speaking of tracing I did
invite Steve Agee as well but he is
busy right now doing a photo shoot so
he sends his love
she's picking up
his film at Rite Aid
wasn't there
like one of Paul's
friends that does like movie reviews
and then remember
who now is the mayor
of Hollywood over at the
Anchler Richard Rushfield
oh wow and then yeah Richard Rushfield
we lost him but
Chimp Nugget
yeah of course
John Schnapp from Metalocalypse
yep
God he used to fucking drive me crazy, though.
Like, Chip Nugget would kill me and would just say over and over,
you've been killed by Chip Nugget.
And I'd fuck it.
He would just sit there and snipe everybody.
He sniped from the hills in between where the flags were.
And Richard would just sit there inside with the flag.
sit there uh inside yeah with inside with the flag so i just talked about this because i just did um an interview uh our our buddy joe manganola is doing or manganello is doing um the dnd official
50th anniversary and it's a documentary and uh he had me do an interview recently and uh we talked about you know how i got into it and
everybody knows my my history but how this show came about like he goes how did you find people
in la to play and i said well we were doing you know this uh these land parties and it was cafe 101 and it was you me and sark and i feel like i feel like you had
maybe mentioned it to sark before or did we just drop it like you and i you and i were itching to
get a game going we had both been talking about it i know and we had maybe even asked a couple
other people like if they would be in right isn't Isn't that right, Jerry? Am I remembering it right?
I remember that distinctly.
It was Cafe 101.
It was an afternoon.
No, it was in the morning.
It was after a game.
It was really early.
Oh, we drove after the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like five or six in the morning or something.
One of us bought Sark's breakfast or whatever it was.
And then it was kind of like ghostbusters
like like come on we can do this like you know like and selling him on it and then him agreeing
to do it and then sort of going holy shit you know we're we're doing this now and right and he was
like determined to do it his way he was gonna find because at the time it wasn't easy to find six second edition,
you know, guides or players manuals.
So like you could find, I think third was out at that point,
or that was pre fourth, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we, we were saying,
yeah,
do what you got to do.
We gave him money and he went on eBay and didn't he find,
he wasn't a,
it wasn't a D and D game,
but didn't he find his own book?
Well,
that was top secret.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He told the story on the podcast way back in the day,
but yeah,
like he,
he found a book that had his pencil writing in the cover
that he got on ebay he bought from canada he bought his own and i was like set that shit on
fire that was on the uh the roof of uh kristen batterby's apartment do you remember that we were
out uh dave anthony was there yeah i think that's the night i met sark and he told us the story
about finding his old character sheets
and the thing he bought.
Wow.
And then we started playing within, I don't know,
within a month of that or a couple of months.
Yeah.
It came together pretty fast and it just kept going
and all the wives were cool with it for some reason.
For some reason.
Get us out of the house.
Yeah.
I just wondered because like like i started opening
for brian in like 2006 or something and he would tell me about these games but i lived in chicago
till 2013 so like when did this stop did this keep going like i want to i want to say my recollection of this, and everyone's mileage may vary.
The game kind of blew apart a little bit when the kids started to show up.
Everyone started to show up.
Yeah, yeah.
Babies getting married.
Well, the first three of us, it was me, Patton, and Jerry all at once.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There was something in the water in Comic-Con 2008, and we all came out.
Oh, no, you get pregnant for Comic-Con water?
Yeah, no, our kids were born within a couple of months apart.
Yeah, they're all.
You know, Patton, Alice, and Declan, they were born 24 hours apart at Cedars.
And so it was an easy sort of way to go, hey, we need some time off from the game.
And by the way, people at Cedars that took the baby class that we took fucking hated us.
Yeah, that's true.
Because think about it.
It was me, Jerry Patton.
Also, Dave Anthony.
Yeah, he was his kid.
A real pick me up.
Yeah.
His kid was born at the same time. Yeah, his kid was born at the same time. So us four assholes and our wives, I'm moms, our wives going fucking shh, like everything.
Like my phone went off and we would giggle and we like somebody dropped a baby, like the fake baby and shit.
I took that class at Cedars-Toot in the class about like where she's showing you to be how to really you have to very gently put clothes on a baby because they're very fragile.
She was like, you need to hold the head.
She lifted the baby up and popped the head right off and it clattered straight down the aisle.
Everyone screamed and it was horrifying.
So, you know, it could have been the instructor.
Like a David Cedera story. Yeah. I feel like it's a common trope that don't hire, you know, don't hire women because they're just going to get pregnant.
And it was you guys who derailed everything with all those babies.
Right.
All at once.
100%.
Blue of the game.
They turned out pretty good, though.
Well, yeah.
Well, those were long nights.
Like, we would go to
Sark's house
around 6 o'clock and stay till
2 in the morning, right?
Am I remembering that right?
It wouldn't be two-hour games.
It would be six or eight-hour games.
We would stop and get food.
We would get whiskey.
Patton would bring
20 fucking muffins and shit yeah yeah or
cupcakes now four man cupcakes something i wondered about too because patten has this infamous photo
that went viral a bunch of years ago where like he's in his dnd club in junior high and he's like
clutching a second edition book with all these other little kids around him who are super nerdy
like when did you guys actually start and what was that like because i know when i got to play with you guys one of the
main reasons i was stoked other than you guys being very funny comedy folks is because like
finding a good group is so difficult there's so many people who like they're like yeah come join
our game and then they're just the meanest people or the weirdest people are just not your vibe you
know well it's funny you mentioned that because that was my experience in high school like
i didn't really start playing until later with with my friends because earlier when i tried to
get into the game i don't know whether we just didn't click or whether you know um they didn't
like me or what have you but i almost got along better with the football players
than I did the D&D folks.
So funny.
I didn't stay there.
Same exact story.
Same fucking story.
You tell yours, Ken?
It was the same thing.
It was just everybody was so shitty and clicky about the whole thing
and really strict about rules and just fucking relaxed, guys.
Yeah, the guy that ran it at my school
junior high um my mom i i didn't know he ran it but like he was like my nemesis at at a church
camp and uh sunday school and all this so like i couldn't stand this kid and then i walked in the
door and he couldn't stand me either and there i am with my
brand new you know uh player's manual my mom had bought me at the bookstore and i was ready to play
and uh he goes not you posain and i'm just like i turned around like didn't even didn't even make
it into the room i just went nah fucking flipped to you and walked outside with my new book
and didn't play until like 10 years later when I was back at home living with my mom.
And I worked at Tower Records with this dude named Rick.
And he was like, do you play D&D?
Do you play Palladiums?
Do you play any of these other games?
And I said, nah nah but I'd love to
and he goes let's go play palladium me and Tony and you and we would just play he would DM and
this other dude I worked with Tony at the record store and it would just be two of us playing and
he's Rick's playing hella weights and we just got high with his parents and uh we would like sit on the floor in his room and like with candles and make it
make it as metal as we could it also sounds romantic with all those candles i know right
love blooming tallman when did you first play um i think around the same time as everybody like late 70s i was in wisconsin so i think i was
playing like first edition i kind of remember like dungeons and dragons becoming advanced
dungeons and dragons but i never even saw second edition like i see those covers in those books
and i'm like oh those look beautiful second edition was great that was when the game started making sense to me yeah i was just you know i was sort of what you guys
were describing before i would play with my friends all of whom were like the neighborhood
kids and you know i remember a lot of like oh i hope we don't have to do uh saving throws because
i don't understand how if they're like, you had to roll high for attacks,
but you had to roll low for other,
you know,
like the,
the dice hadn't been streamlined yet.
And so I remember a lot of that being hard to wrap my head.
You know,
we had that problem all the way up to 2018 or so.
So,
uh,
and we still have problems,
but the,
the high and low shit we were,
I think,
I think I accidentally included Faco in the first season of post
earwolf nerd poker. So, uh, uh, no uh no i didn't really but i had plenty of mistakes if you listen
the first season of our post-earwolf there's moments where i'm like yeah and then you just
just just roll the dice and yeah that sounds good like there's a lot of just like uh esoteric
dungeon mastering happening.
But that's what makes it fun.
I will say, too, the commitment over the course of the game,
everyone's commitment to their characters was what really kept me around.
It wasn't just that we were all friends. I genuinely think that you guys were some of the best role players.
And the commitment to, you know,
playing stupid thing,
everyone kind of daring to be stupid.
It made it so much fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jerry,
what did you play before paladins and naked Druids?
So I don't know if you remember everybody.
There was a cleric.
I told,
I told Sark that I wanted to do something weird,
and I rolled up a detective named...
I remember that detective.
Yeah.
Wait, is he the one who touched something
and then was immediately electrocuted and died?
I think he maybe was.
There was like a sword, and you just went like,
I grab it, and it's like you take 1000 points of damage
Is that what we did like police academy
when we were all recruits?
That was after
Wait you roleplayed police academy?
No we were all recruits
We were all like first level
guys trying to become cops
I was experimenting with like a kind of a monster of the week type
thing where it's like we were always
That sounds fun though It was really really cool He was experimenting with like a kind of a monster of the week type thing where it's like we were always on each, you know.
That sounds fun though.
It's really, really cool.
Also reminded me we should get Bobcat to play with us.
And this was before the TV or before the podcast.
This is just at Stark's house.
The thing that I loved about Jerry playing the detective character was he had a notebook and he kept these really extensive notes and he would Columbo every scene.
And now I have a few more questions about. But then the next day. I found that book, Blaine. had a notebook and he kept these really expensive notes and he would Columbo every scene.
And now I have a few more questions about, but then the next day, yeah, it would just be like, oh, this is every has everything in that we need to know to not get killed
or wait.
Do you know where the book is right now?
Jerry, is it in your house?
It's I'm at an office.
It is the house, but I do.
I'll I can shoot a picture of it.
It's the front page
it's this red spiral notebook it says the case book of mitsuki mitsuki knocks and so he was like
a ranger uh i believe he was a ranger class and he had a super high constitution so my recollection
of when i just reached for the sword without checking for traps or doing anything was I was like, well, I have a 19 constitution.
He goes, yeah, that doesn't help you.
You took 10,000 points of lightning damage.
And I was like, OK, you don't have to be a dick about it.
I'll just turn in an air pursuit.
We can get on with the game.
And I'll be thinking about.
Do you think it was like it might have been a different.
You know who it was?
I think the I think the one that grabbed the thing was was my barbarian i sort of rolled a proto-conan tor was his name i
think that would make sense and he had a legendarily bad um charisma and i was like let's not make him
ugly let's just say that he is like like like oj OJ has bad charisma. If he comes in, you know,
like if he pops into the zoom,
you go,
I might have to bounce.
It's that level of,
of,
of,
of bad charisma.
Those,
those are so fun though,
to the,
the peaks and valleys of those stat bonuses and then committing to that
stuff.
I,
I can't remember.
bonuses and then committing to that stuff i i can't remember i think mitsuki nox died when i rode a paladin down um a hole there was like that i heard somebody or no that's that was how sir
sir richard died yeah yeah you died you and chris got lost right yeah that's what that's what
happened and chris rode me down like ace and Gary because I was a paladin.
I heard a cry for help.
And Sark was like, I don't know.
It looks really deep.
We were dropping rocks off.
You don't hear anything.
And then we went down there and we had a side game.
And it took a couple of weeks, right?
It took a couple of weeks to play out because we were just like emaciated and dying and there were giant spiders.
It was very, very Sark.
I'm getting all my characters confused, but Nox was really cool.
And Nox had the coolest, like, they were really cool, like loot.
Did you say what class he was?
I think he was a ranger, but I know he was, he had weird stats because he was a detective but there weren't as
many options then to to do weird yeah now like all the editions is uh classes have been brought
back but there were a lot of editions where they would just leave some classes out because he would
let us fuck around that too like he let me play a monk one of the first times we went out that's what
jackie was uh a pickle loving monk and again to time stamp this for people the photos i have of
this time and a couple of very short videos were taken on my palm trio oh wow that's right oh man
do you remember do you remember the game what was the uh the deck of cards or the deck of many things?
Deck of many things.
Wayne has many from that era.
Oh, yeah.
This was Fing, and Fing was my first level cop figure,
and he had a really bad charisma, so Sark let me play a drow. So people didn't want anything to do with him because he had a really bad charisma so sark let me play a drow so people didn't want
anything to do with him because he had a horrible he was a horrible drow but that was cool because
uh we stopped that campaign i think the kids happened right when this thing right when we
graduated from cop school and we all became like second level or something and then all the children came yeah yeah that's exactly right i dropped a couple of pictures into um the chat um oh you were sending me a virus so i didn't
open them oh they're tiffs uh they're just uh they're they're weird tiffs but jerry i uh opened
your pictures and found them to be beautiful and not at all viruses i don't think you have weird tips no i
found them to be very artistic nudes thank you um one of them is uh the table at uh at earwolf way
back in the day that all that everybody would sign and stuff yeah yeah so the signatures are there
and then uh that i believe that's sir richard character sheet with my 20 strength and stupid charisma.
I downloaded those.
So maybe we'll share those with.
Yeah, share them.
And some of these ones I threw in my book to sort of my autobiographical tumble through Los Angeles.
That'll be out next year.
Oh, yeah.
Jerry, you should tell people about that.
It's a photo book that I did a Kickstarter for,
and I'll have extra copies to give you all as gifts. But the, uh,
it turned out really, um, I think pretty, pretty good for only being me,
which is a bad sign. You know, usually I'm, I'm having artists, uh, you know,
come in and tell the story that I'm telling.
So I only had the photographs really and whatever I wanted to write.
And I think it turned out neat.
The designer
who did Matt Oswalt's photo
book helped me.
I really... It'll be a nice
hardcover. I like Matt Oswalt.
I've seen a lot of your pictures. I mean, you take
great pictures, dude.
Thanks, man. I appreciate it.
Jerry, you should do some nudes sometime.
Well, there are some Stan Lee photos that we can't really tell.
Oh, his personal assistant left the house for a minute and things got steamy.
Jerry.
Excelsior.
He was great.
Yeah.
He was very loving.
But he got done dirty at the end there by some fucked up people.
Oh, God, I know.
I know.
Jerry, to cheer me up, you sent me a thing.
Is that something you can plug yet?
I was having a down and out.
Oh, well, this is so stupid.
Talking about daring to be stupid.
We couldn't talk ourselves out of it once we had this stupid idea but
scott koblish and i uh the very important collaborator from mine and brian's deadpool
we did a story that we wanted to call king dong but the name would not clear
so why it's called the ginormous cock jew because a dildo company beat us, but it's just about like, you know, it's,
we're playing with all the tropes of the monster, you know,
this big giant monster comes out of the sea and everyone screams and then it
turns around and people are like, Ooh,
maybe we're going to dodge this bullet.
And then it roars out its ass and takes big giant shit.
It's a monster with physical needs and so we do we do as many
jokes as we can and then we get out and it ends with uh i won't tell you but it's so funny jerry
it's very stupid but it's very funny i hope it's great we do the it's we do like a naked sauna
fight between a robot and a and a giant monster like
the eastern promises sauna fight you know it's it's fucking stupid you like i'm disney will fire
me from ever working with them again but the fun thing is that it's kind of a thing that you'd only
make when you're kind of run out of fucks and you just are like I'm going to put this up on my
sub stack and so that's where
it is it's at my sub stack
I'm glad you laughed
if you guys all want copies please let me
know I'll give you
a horrible
what yeah
the funniest quote was
Zeb Wells said
I thought I was done hiding comics under the bed.
I was wrong.
And I was like, I'm putting that on the cover.
It's going on the cover.
Nice.
Brian, I also enjoyed War on Weed,
which you coincidentally also handed me to cheer me up.
Yeah.
Comic books from you nerds.
Cocktube makes war on we look
like war and peace man you were doing some highbrow shit with our fucking dumb ass 420 book
compared to cock you oh that's so funny yeah it's a lot of fun now i wanted to uh i prepared a few
questions just in case.
But if I'm trying to pick and choose my favorites because this is just fun to fuck around and not actually ask questions.
But in the old Earwolf days, you guys talked a whole lot about Vin Diesel.
Have you thought about ideal guests for just playing D&D with?
Now, Jerry, I know you don't get to play with us more than once a year or so these days, because, you know, Disney.
But who do you wish you could
play with? Because I know I have a whole list
if connections were
not a problem, I would
just reach out to.
I mean, I thought we were
always kidding about Vin, but maybe we weren't.
If he ever wanted to show up,
we vaguely were threatened with him.
People were like, oh, I know he has a game.
And I'm like, we have a game, you know,
like we're going to challenge him to a fight or something.
And it was always like, can we, you know,
get rolling some guest stars?
I don't know.
I think Joe was probably the one that I'd go,
oh, that'd be a fun one to do someday.
But honestly, I just, you know,
anytime I get a chance to
guest role with you guys i'm very happy so sting i want to get sting
that'll end it you can play for a long time i cooled on the fin thing because i just think
you know our show is so what it is and i think, he's the kind of guy who might not enjoy what we do.
And then some other like D and D live stream got him in like 2015.
And then like he started harassing the rock about fast and furious movies.
And it just sort of became this whole other thing.
Yeah.
It wasn't that entertaining a player.
We've had some great,
we had Joe Manganiello.
We've had some Joe is a fantastic Joe Manganiello. We've had some... Yeah, Joe is fantastic.
Yeah, Joe's a
giant nerd, too. He also asked
me if I would like to do an interview for
the official Dungeons & Dragons documentary.
So if you don't see me in it, it's because I
am not as famous as Brian.
Ooh.
Harrison Ford. Let's get Harrison
Ford to do it. It'd be great.
Yeah, let's... How about Chewbac Yeah, let's have Chewbacca.
I'd love Chewbacca.
Cranky the whole time.
I would love to get any just like Star Wars actor.
We've talked about Mark Hamill maybe doing it.
I would love to just find people who are Star Wars-y.
Just for no other reason to torture Sarah,
but I would love to get some.
You can't play those cards anymore.
Famous cards.
That's right.
You've seen Star Wars.
She's opened the door to Star Wars what's your favorite Star Wars Sarah?
my favorite Star War?
yeah it's that
first one you know that Star War
the main one? Andor is very
very good as we were talking about Andor
I just watched Rogue One so that I can watch Andor
now but yeah
buddy
I think the thing about inviting people
by the way to play like i think part of what was fun is because it was like people who some of us
already knew each other and then you know what i mean and then it's it's it's less about even who's
good at the game or who's played before because sometimes i feel like i've had i've had friends
i'm like oh you should come play and and they hate it. They're like paralyzed
when you get in the game. It just
doesn't click or whatever. They're just like, this isn't
fun for me. And then there's other people
who you would think, oh, that person's not going to
really get how this works
or what they're doing. And then they just
come alive. Like Dave Anthony.
Yeah, I was going to say the same thing.
He's the crankiest guy I've ever met, but
he had a blast playing. You never know who it's going to be, I think. He was so catty, same thing. Yeah, he's the crankiest guy I've ever met, but he had a blast playing.
You never know who it's going to be, I think.
He was so catty, but all of a sudden he's like, okay, I checked the corners.
I'm up against it.
Like, he was in it.
It was funny.
And my wife, I knew my wife would have fun because she makes fun of it, but also she loves games.
So, like, if you have any sort of gaming bug in you you'll dig this game that reminds me i
have to i have to run a game for uh for rhodes and ducklin sometime soon yeah yeah that's right
he um he had a blast so yeah the the next generation literally the the kids so um
started a game whenever your nerds are ready i believe they're the future
ish yeah i'm torn on that yeah i'll have to adopt someone you can adopt me
my my kids love to play dnd for a while then they discovered k-pop and no more so yeah now
they play k-pop i'd watch a show where uh ken raises jerry like would it be
a fun like double decker like loft with a cool like spinny ladder and shit spiral checker that's
the that's the best case scenario the worst case is where we're vans butt to butt down by a river or something la la's la's a wasteland now no water that's the
just following you on your big wheel in the park
just because you said about the butt i'm in Oh my gosh. The, uh,
yeah,
the,
you know,
the,
I,
I remember laughing so hard,
uh, at so many of these,
uh,
adventures before it was a podcast during a podcast.
I have no idea what it would,
what the user experience with the listener experiences.
It like,
it must work because here we are 10 years in if i if i may because i
first moved to la right around the time you guys were started the podcast and i worked on
at midnight with blaine and blaine you might remember you know i would come up to you at
tapings and just be like dude i can't believe sark turned you all into rats. Holy shit. How many episodes are you ahead?
And it was so fun to listen to because you guys were like,
you know, maybe what the second ever D&D podcast
after like Acquisitions Incorporated
and the Penny Arcade guys ran that.
But like what was fun was you guys had fun had fun playing there wasn't this like gatekeeping
vibe there wasn't this feeling that like which was my big problem when i tried to play in high
school like oh these are not just nerds but like they're nerds who think they're cooler than me
yeah i was a nerd who was not cooler than anybody i was like this nerd who had like severe social
issues and would try and play with other nerds and the nerds would be like, you can't do that.
But you guys would have a lot of fun doing dumb jokes.
I think that's because we all had that same experience.
Jerry, Brian, you, me, and we all were like shunned by the other D&D nerds
for some fucking reason.
I don't know.
Who, by the way, Sarah was one of those people.
But I was going to say i recruited from from my friends
when i played i played in high school and i played in college and had different experiences who did
you i mean i feel like you don't talk about your pre-nerd poker group days more than a lot of well
because i was i was right out of college i mean i had just graduated a couple maybe a year or two
before when we started playing so I had been I
had played with the group in college um that those games got very fucked up because people were um
people were really fucked up like that's when I was like it's really difficult to continue a
campaign when someone is like I there's shrooms and then it's like okay now the game is over for
people are getting like too drunk.
What was it like in high school and stuff?
Yeah, high school was fun.
I just played with my friends.
Like I said, I would invite, we had an almost, I probably all,
I had like all my female friends would play with us. And then I would play with another group of guys sometimes.
So, and when we started playing for, with Sark, I brought my own second,
I mean, I had my original second
edition book you didn't have to get me one off of ebay because i still because i've been using
it the whole time so didn't you didn't you play with your parents too yeah i mean i started playing
when i was like with like my mom's boyfriend so you know so i've been playing the whole time did
any of any of your old friends from those games still play now or not so much like do they have their own games no i mean like some i don't think so i don't think
so sometimes people were like you know i've had someone like reach out to me on like instagram
or something to be like i can't believe you're still still you seem well yeah there's there was
like are you playing professionally what the fuck is going on or like 95 to 2015 it was weird to
still play right like there were yeah it was a very it play right like there were like 20 years it was a select
group in like the 90s of people who were it was not what it is now there was like a huge new york
times article about not just like dnd but like dnd podcast like it's like it's a thing now so
everybody plays that was weird how you guys were like the second dnd podcast and now there's so
many of them i actually did a uh like a punk rock comedy festival in
gainesville florida and someone came up to me a very nice super nice guy but he thought i was
with like the dungeon daddy's podcast for a second and i was like wait what is the dungeon
there's so many there's like a whole dnd podcast section now you guys you know
really you were ahead of your time.
Great.
Look at us now.
We're in exactly the same place.
Let's take a look at that clip.
I wasn't looking. Never edited it.
Never scripted it.
Never edited it. That's what we're known for. No editing.
And released it
to you. Much like
the monster in Jerry's new comic book.
Yes, that's right.
It's artisanally sourced local Dungeons and Dragons.
Completely organic.
Direct.
Yeah, and Sam knows when to cut if I say...
No!
And remind me who's a Nazi?
There it is.
So I'm'm gonna send you
king dong and please share it with
gino i think he'd laugh too sure
that's gonna happen yeah open
this link that says king dong you just
want sarah to be like hey
for you king dong
listen it's between
sarah and her husband if she wants to introduce king
dong to their person
that's love no it's a k and her husband if she wants to introduce King Dong to their personal relationship.
That's love.
No, it's a kaiju battle in a sauna.
No, come back.
I have something special for you.
Please accept this.
The gift.
Who's it from?
It's from Jerry. Why didn't he send it to me directly?
I don't know. He wanted to go between.
Jerry wanted me to clear this first before I send it to you.
Just so it's not weird. Jerry's trying to airdrop everyone at King Dong.
Well, that's very thoughtful of him.
It's just like the virus that you tried to send in the chat.
I mean, that's the best part is King Dong's not even the virus.
You got a Trojan horse with an innocuous name. And then, oh, what's the best part is King Dong's not even the virus. You got a Trojan horse with an innocuous name.
And then, oh, what's this?
The story about, oh, the little butterfly.
Let me, and then.
Bambi.exe.
It's real sad when King Dong's mom got killed by that hunter.
Oh, no.
That is.
All my Dong's gone.
Origin stories. Oh, my God god there's only three of them
that is true now i i'm very lucky i get to uh now write role-playing games for a living and work with a bunch of ips i just adapted uh or helped adapt the dragon prince uh the netflix show if you guys like you guys also much like me
played a bunch of tabletop role-playing games back in the day i know i played a lot of like
rifts and vampire the masquerade but uh like what do you guys wish you saw more of in that whole
world like is there is there any game where when you think about the dice and the sheets of paper
and the pencils that you were like oh that would be cool if someone would finally do that
i i really loved uh chill i played that back in the day and it was chill i don't know that it's
a horror-based uh rpg uh and uh it's all like you know you come up with a monster and and uh
you know it's like dnd but horror i didn't have a monster and, you know, it's like D&D, but horror.
I didn't have a lot of board games, really.
I'm very board game curious, though.
Oh.
You should play The Thing sometime.
That's fun.
I know.
I have The Thing game.
We have to play it, Jerry.
It's so fun.
Jerry, guess what?
I've never played it.
Blaine's The Thing.
Blaine is The Thing.
Oh, I could have guessed that.
Didn't want to say anything but
yeah chris what were you about to say jaws is no fun jaws jaws the board game eats the whole ass
mr tallman you were about to say something uh when i was a kid besides dnd i liked playing a lot of
superhero role-playing ones there was champions and villains and vigilantes and that was always
i mean it's not too dissimilar
from dnd just you know i wish i had played more of that and i would love to get a game
of even though i've never played i'd love to get a superhero dnd game going
it's uh i miss our star wars games too that chris oh my god the star wars he runs such a fun game
yeah we can do that again absolutely non-dnd non D&D ones I've ever played I'm just like a
ride or die D&D bitch
since like the early days
I literally never played another
it's very intense my relationship
I have a loyalty that cannot be questioned
yeah mostly D&D and then
a little bit of Palladiums and a little bit of
GURPS oh yeah
GURPS is a generic
role playing one yeah you could GURPS was like a yeah. I played some GURPS. Generic role-playing one.
GURPS was like a system you could adapt to other stuff. I did like that.
You know that Netflix show Altered Carbon?
I played a version of GURPS that was kind of like
that where you would be born into these
cybernetic bodies.
Oh, wow.
I played a lot of Traveler
when I was
in high school. When I wasn't playing D&D,
I would run these Traveler campaigns with my friends.
What's Traveler?
Is that sci-fi?
Yeah, it's hard sci-fi.
It's really good.
It gets a little mathy for some people, I think.
And it's all military-based and very, very scientific.
But it was always really cool.
It was a great universe and lots of fun.
I would love to play one of those,
but it's an entirely new kind of system people would have to learn.
I wish there was some sort of like GURPS interlink where I could sort of,
the way Chris did the Star Wars thing is to adapt that universe to Dungeons and Dragons
and just use those rules.
That was what I would do when I was in high school.
Anytime I was intrigued by
Battlestar Galactica or whatever,
I could convert that into some
sort of rough D&D thing and bring it
into a campaign.
Anyway, Traveler was fun.
Hard to find stuff.
I think that's the holdback for all other games
is that it's like, can I just learn one
set of rules yeah
and then we can be
doctor who yeah
whatever wait I can be doctor who
sure
that'd be great doctor who was in my network
yeah give me a couple of fucking
screwdrivers I'll fuck some
shit up have you guys ever played
tales from the Loop?
Have you heard about this? It got adapted into an
Amazon miniseries, but
it's this game that's supposed to be very...
It's kind of like if Stranger
Things had more sci-fi
robots
and stuff.
It's supposed to be good.
But I heard good things.
Mike Drucker, guest of the podcast has uh told me it's
amazing just curious just curious great mike is great i trust mike i played a lot of shadow run
too you guys ever play that or the name's familiar shadow run it was this it's a cyberpunk game
where it's tries to bring fantasy elements in it's like oh 2000 something and like all of
a sudden trolls and elves and dwarves like come back to earth they like re-emerge but everybody's
can like use their hacking powers to get into cyberpunk shit it's fun nice got adapted into
a bunch of video games it's a great time maybe somebody will make a
king dong board game it's called candy land rights i'll adapt sure uncle wiggly
but they they did sex up the candy land like people yeah like sugar like if you look at them
they're all same with clue the current clue them, they're all...
Same with Clue. The current Clue
drawings, the Sugar Plum Fairy looks like
an influencer on the...
Gotta appeal to that Zoomer generation.
Not Sugar Plum, whatever the Candy Fairy is.
I don't know what her name is. Clue Thirst
Trap Edition. It does. It just makes
everybody look hot. Colonel Mustard.
There was one where Colonel Mustard was hot
on the back. I was like, this is dumb.
I saw like a Monopoly David Bowie edition. like there was one where like Colonel Mustard was hot on the back. This is dumb.
I saw like a Monopoly David Bowie edition.
There's one thing if you think about David
Bowie, it's that he'd want to bankrupt
someone.
I'd say the most erotic game I played
in a while is the new Kerplunk.
There is a game I tell you the most erotic game I played in a while is the new Kerplunk. Yeah.
I'm telling you.
There is a game I saw.
Oh my God, I saw it at
Joanne's Fabric, don't ask.
And it's a game
I can't...
But it's a toilet
and a thing pops up and you have to catch
a plastic turd that pops
up out of the toilet.
No, that's like every kid's game
now is like, throw the shit.
Like, dunk the turd.
Turd catcher.
That reminds me, is there a board game
yet where like a rat comes out of a toilet?
That would be a great one.
Catch Sarah's toilet rat.
I did love
a board game when I was a kid
called Past Lives
and yeah it was really fun
and at the end you get assigned based on like your
point score you get assigned to like what your
past life was and
they range in you know
from good to
very not good and like the worst one you could
get was you were the rat that started the
the black plague
not just a rat with the plague but was you were the rat that started the black plague. Not just a rat
with the plague but like you were the rat
who originally started the
plague. Extra. Extra guilt.
Rat guilt.
That would be funny if you could role play the
rat's extreme guilt
over all the human lives. I think
the point is he had none and that's why he
was a terrible person. Oh he was a total
sociopath. You're reincarnated as one was a real prick sarah what was the what was the best version
of uh that reincarnation you know i was just trying to remember and i'm like why can't i
remember any of the i think mother teresa was definitely in there but i can't remember i do
remember that in the middle was a name that i had not heard i mean i was like a kid it was fatty arbuckle was like one of the and then when
i grew up no but then i learned like then he's he's the history of what actually happened there
is really messed up so it's terrible like it was it was like a very weird thing to be in a
kids game or whatever first of all i wanted to ask you guys because we were talking about like joe manganello um no joe manganello has this like crazy dnd dungeon room right like where he is he has a dungeon room
yes i've i've been in his dungeon no there there's all these custom tables and like dnd
dice trays and shit if you could if you could customize your home to be a game room what would
you guys do i'd have deckard's apartment from blade runner yeah very low light with the you
know uh square glasses frank lloyd right you know uh uh walls and yeah the square glasses not like this bullshit fucking
circular glass
vaporwave neon lighting outside
on the 97th floor
some blood in there
stacks of paper
artisanal dripping
and some sushi
that's what my wife called me
cold fish
I would like a room just big enough for a
fancy table. That would be great.
Yeah, I'd just like to have... That's a good thing now, by
the way. It's the houses that are doing it.
Instead of theaters, they're putting in, like, game
rooms and D&D rooms and stuff.
A friend of mine has a neighbor
that has a big dungeon in his house.
Wow.
All the old sex dungeons are being converted to
gaming dungeons. We definitely need a new name. People can't keep talking about their dungeons.
I feel like there needs to be.
I don't know.
I'm grateful
that we can talk about sex dungeons
more openly because of Dungeons & Dragons.
Why don't we just call them the wet room?
How about bringing me in the wet room?
Yeah, yeah.
Let's all meet in the wet room for a little dnd well speaking of uh speaking of
wet room we are approaching the end of the hour and our good friend sam keifer has been hanging
out with us the whole time i would love jerry to hear if there's anything else you want to plug
we'll all talk plugs and stuff but sam what do you think even happened on this 10th anniversary celebration episode of Nerd Poker?
Guys, I'm going to trade you my usual recap for a small story that I've been very excited to tell you guys.
I was in New York last week and I met up with a first off.
Thank you, Sarah.
But while I was out there for work, a friend of mine met up named McKinley.
She'd never been to New York. So I spent a good amount of the time doing here's very cool stuff that you actually want to see
mixed in with a healthy amount of like, here's your official touristy. Here's Times Square.
Here's all the stuff you've seen from movies. So we're just working our way down Manhattan
looking at you. There's the Seinfeld restaurant and whatever. So we get done. We're having drinks
as we go. By the time we get down to the bottom in the financial district, I am drunk. And I sent you guys a picture in the group chat, but we're
leaving. There's a cocktail bar she wanted to go to called the Dead Rabbit. That's like a
cool, cool person cocktail bar. And we're leaving. We walk up a couple blocks and there's a huge
metal phallic statue. And forgetting she doesn't listen, I go, we made it to the dildo district.
And I laugh, I laugh really, really hard. And she laughs. Uh, and we go to another bar
and about an hour later we're drinking and I forget she's, you know, she's never been to New
York and the whole time she's been, you know, taking calls, catching up with friends back from
LA and we're at the bar and, uh, I hear her behind me. She goes, Hey, I have to take this.
And once one of our friends from LA and I hear her go good, no I hear her behind me. She goes, hey, I have to take this. And it's one of our friends from LA, and I hear her go, good.
No, things are going good.
Yeah, we went to Dead Rabbit.
Oh, it was great.
Well, I guess now, I guess we're in the dildo district?
And I realized that she had forgotten to explain it from the show,
and I didn't correct her at all.
I went, that's right.
And then, so that's where-
Blaine, if you were looking for any legitimacy to your jokes Blaine that you finally
made it yeah
so that's where we are so no
isn't every part of Brooklyn
the dildo did yeah
Jerry
thank you so much for coming by
hey thank you so much what a delight
I miss you guys next time
let's throw some dice at each other and uh i miss you and i love you all i hope you uh i guess when
you're listening to this i hope you had a great thanksgiving or you avoided the people you wanted
to avoid on thanksgiving but because it's in our future i'll say uh i it's it's so good to see you
guys i hope i can see you out on a patio sometime soon
as one of several people
who takes a peek at the social media
for nerd poker people do not forget you
Jerry
it's very nice to hear even 10 years on
that's what I wanted to do
leave a bruise and leave a horribly
horribly
brutalized D&D corpse
filled with swords.
And then surf that corpse
floating through the cave.
That's right.
It's so good to see you guys.
Happy anniversary.
No, you did it. You pulled on my King Dong.
Thank you.
I was looking forward to pulling on your King Dong.
Ryan, do you want to plug anything?
Nah.
Well, in the tradition of Naz,
I will just say thank you, everybody, for joining us.
It's been fun to fuck around on the main Nerd Poker
regular episode feed.
And everyone who has supported the show over the years
and let me, the most newcomer person in this Zoom call,
be made to feel legitimate.
Thank you so much.
My day job is literally thanks to Brian inviting me
to take over Sarah's character and get it killed.
So thank you, everybody.
Yeah, of course.
Thanks, you guys.
Oh, Blaine, what's going to happen in the next 10 years?
Oh, did someone say 10 year?
Hey, Dr. Uwe Joke.
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