New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Chiefs Magic, Bird Bowl & Bill Murray on Iconic Career, Best SNL Host, Prank Calls & More | Ep 113

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

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Jason, why don't you tell the people? We got an exciting one this time. Though, I mean, this is probably the most exciting episode we may have ever done. This was electric. We got an incredible episode for you guys. You're not gonna wanna miss this one. We're gonna talk about the Chiefs Black Friday Nailbiter, the Eagles winning the Bird Bowl. But first, we're going to get into some of that new, new,

actually, before we get into that, we have an incredible guest waiting for you guys. They're probably going to put out a promo, so I don't even have to act like it's a surprise at this point. Yeah. We have Bill Murray. Bill Murray is coming on New Heights and you're gonna hear him talk about some incredible stories from his childhood, time at SNL, movie career, Bigger and McCracken. You're not gonna wanna miss any of this. I mean, the guy is just as smooth

as fucking the other side of the pill. We're gonna make sure to put it at the end of the episode so that you guys have to watch this entire beginning portion. So first, we're going to make sure to put it at the end of the episode so you guys have to watch this entire beginning portion. So first we're going to get a little bit to that new news. That's right. New news is brought to you by ESPN on Disney Plus. Is that some type of like sports network?

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How about it? I can't tell you how much of my time is spent on Disney Plus and I think we've seen every Disney movie at least five times now. Nice. Also, starting December 4th, you can head to homage.com. That's homage, H-O-M-A-G-E.com slash new heights to order our new limited edition holiday merch. That's right. Order by December 9th. That's right. And you can get it by Christmas. That's it for that section. This is also not really new news Not really new news, but we have received

A demand about what our next film club movie should be by a celebrity Mystery fan Travis and I have not heard this intern Brandon and just Jake mystery Who screens these voicemails just so I know how many voicemails do you listen to on average a week? these voicemails just so I know how many voicemails do you listen to on average a week? We are up to 735 un-listened to voicemails. So how many listen to voices? So nobody listens to these. Brandon. I'm trying. They won't stop calling. They text now too. For those of you that haven't heard we have 730 unread voicemails which is similar to probably what I have in my voicemail. Because who does voicemails anymore? Everybody texts. I don't listen to voicemails. Just do a voice memo. I don't want to fucking go into my voicemail box and fucking get some shit.

But if you guys want to keep sending in your uh, your Heights Hotline voicemails, I'm sure we'll eventually get to them. Intern Brandon will get to them before he dies, hopefully. All right. Let's get to this one. Intern Brandon, can we hear this mystery one, please? Play this one. Hello. I'm just calling because I don't have a need for relationship advice.

I can give you a version for the next movie review. I think it's the holiday season and that Love Actually is a tremendous movie. If it's not Jumanji, I'm gonna be so mad. Love Actually, come on, you've got a golden opportunity. That you could really sit down with your significant others and enjoy. Love Actually. significant others and enjoy because it's not like one of your significant others hasn't asked you to watch them multiple times and you said no every time, so this would be a great excuse to get you to watch it. Okay, I hope you take this into consideration. You

guys are great. Love you. Bye. Love you too, Kai. All right. That was Kylie? That was Kylie. That was Kylie. She did have the cadence. I know that voice. Yeah, I haven't heard her voice over the phone, so. Yeah, it's a little bit different. Love Action.

Is that what Gerard Butler, is that what that one is? No, we got Hugh Grant, Liam Neeson, sorry. Liam Neeson? Is it like a taken film? Not even close. No? I would have been in if it was like taken. Oh, Mr. Bean?

Mr. Bean? No way. Rowan Atkinson. Nice. I think we can both probably agree we're not doing love actually. Yeah, probably not. I'll do like a really good Christmas movie though. All right. We'll open it to a fan vote as always. There's no favoritism played here, even for my own wife. Please submit your favorite holiday films and just for the record, before millions of moronic people submit Die Hard. Die Hard is not a Christmas movie. We will not be doing Die Hard. But yeah, any other Christmas film, which is in the spirit of Christmas or the holidays, doesn't have to be Christmas. I mean, I like A Crazy Night. It's a great movie. We will review it and we look forward to it.

I did drop you one note. You dropped me a note? Yeah. Oh, Kylie said she would come on if we did Love Actually. Does that change anything? I don't think it really changes how we feel. She has her own podcast now. She can just do Love Actually, right? What does she need us to do Love Actually for?

Yeah, Kai, why don't you do Love Actually and then put it on Not Gonna Lie. There you go. How about I come on Not Gonna Lie and we can do a movie review of Love Actually? Yeah, don't fucking torture me. Torture your husband. Travis is not a part of this. This is not fair to Travis. I don't fucking come for me. Well, you know Hugh Grant. It's not even going to hit the same. You guys are like best buds now. I'm not going to lie though. You do tequila shots with Reggie. I've watched like two or three movies with Hugh in it since and I fucking love all of them. He's just, there's something about knowing the guy, man. Yeah, makes you like it more? Yeah, I think so. Either that or I think-

So should we do love actually? Now you're talking me into it. I never said we wouldn't enjoy the movie. I just said I don't want to review it. Okay, that's fair. Intern Brandon is giving me a lot of side eye right now. Just, just do it. Just do what? Kylie on the movie. I know what you're trying to do, Brandon. Yeah, everybody knows what he's doing. I'm not trying to hide it. Just do what? Kylie on it's a movie. I know what you're trying to do Brandon. Yeah, everybody knows what he's doing.

I'm not trying to hide it. I'm not trying to hide it. How about this? We'll do two. I'm gonna offer a barter system. We'll do two. We'll do a double movie review episode. So Brandon gets what he wants. So Brandon gets what he wants. We'll do Love Actually and we'll do a double movie review episode. So Brandon gets what he wants.

So Brandon gets what he wants. We'll do Love Actually and we'll do a fan because I don't want to. I think the fans should have some say in this voting procedure. No, 100%. That's the whole point of this. That's the fucking point of it. Yeah. We're going to do Love Actually and another film that you guys will vote on and tell us

which holiday film you guys would like us to review. Again, new news brought to you by ESPN on Disney Plus. Jason Kelsey, ESPN. Did you actually think that the show was good? You were watching Monday night. You were giving me. Dude, I love getting text mid. Yeah. I was laughing with me though, right? Not at me. Right? Yeah. I mean, that's life is laughing at Jason Kelsey. You laugh with everyone when they laugh at you mean, that's life is laughing at Jason Kelsey, but you laugh with everyone when they laugh at you. So that's right. Perfect. All right. Let's move on to maybe something that we can find some laughing with while we're doing it. And that's a bold topics wrap up week 13, which really because of the bill, because of bill, we're only going to get into

the chiefs and Eagles. We're not going to get into too much of the NFL landscape this week because we're going to get right to the stuff that we think is going to be highly entertaining. But we will give you a little Chiefs recap. Travis, you faced off against the Raiders and you guys snuck out the victory. It was tight. There was some end of game shenanigans, which I think all of Twitter was debating back and forth on what happened. I don't think anybody really fully knows exactly what happened But I know exactly what happened. What do you mean? All right. Well, the Chiefs won 19 to 17. We know that

Yeah, there was a end of game procedure. I guess we'll get right into that It's not the start of this but would start and a game procedure O'Connell Receives the snap doesn't know the snap is coming fumble End of game procedure, O'Connell receives a snap, doesn't know the snap is coming, fumble, there's a flag on the play, one official is running into the frame, clearly signaling false start, and the officials convene,

decide to say it's illegal procedure, or snap infraction, how do they say it? No, it's illegal, what do you call it? It's like illegal formation. People are in motion, right? It was like, people are moving around. That's what it is, it wasn't a false start. It's not like everyone got set and somebody jumped off sides. It was, it was the entire team wasn't set. And because of

that, the play then goes on and it does the, the play doesn't stop right there on the snap like a false start would. So yeah, for, for those of you that don't know, false start is not an accept or decline penalty. If there's a false start, the play never existed. It's blown dead right away. So this is why there's a controversy, because there is one official running on the field, one of the side judges, who is signaling false start.

He's signaling the false start, which is this, when they talked about it, they realized that it wasn't a false start. I agree, it's not a false start. He's signaling the false start, which is this. When they talked about it, they realized that it wasn't a false start. I agree, it's not a false start. The one way you could say it's a false start though, the center never gets set. What? The center is set, his hand is on the ball and it's set.

Yeah, but he's moving his head. Now the center can't move his head? So because, actually his head wasn't even moving. Nevermind, I changed my mind. I changed my mind Retract I retract I thought he did like the little deal with his head It is what it is and I'm not pointing blame on anybody You can't put that kind of call into the refs hands. It is what it is And I'm yeah, I don't think you you know

I mean if you're the Raiders you don't do it because we get all the calls you just never want to put a fucking be in position where you're relying on the refs to make a call, whether it's right call or wrong call, a call that takes the ball away from you or ruins your chances of winning. And it just, it is what it is. I've been in situations where I've put it in the ref's hands and I've come up empty handed like that as well. I agree. I think that that's not a false start based on what I just saw. And they got the call right. But for those of you that don't know, O'Connell talked about this. Why did the snap happen in the first place? There's a little bit of miscommunication. The Raiders

are on what we call silent count. Intern Brandon, can you bring up that clip again? Whenever you're ready, intern Brandon. Jesus Christ. We got to get some new interns. Come on, bud. There's a lot of stuff. So pause it right here. When the guard goes to tap the center. Pause it. So you see the guard look back and he taps the center. When you're on silent count, that tells the center, it's on the guard to tell the center when the quarterback is ready for the ball. Typically, the guard gets an indicator from the quarterback. What happens here is O'Connell is clapping his hands to try and get people lined up. When the quarterback claps his hands is another cue for most teams on silent count the play clock is going down or there's an unguarded receiver,

hurry up and snap the ball. So the guard thinks we're trying to go quickly. O'Connell is just trying to get people lined up. All of a sudden, there's a snap when he's not ready for it. And we have the ensuing fumble recovery and game clinching fumble recovery for the Kansas City Chiefs. Pretty critical error. And it's unfortunate. I kind of joked on Twitter, like this is one thing I don't miss about playing center. These little procedure things come up so much and it's, regardless of whose fault it is, it's so infuriating when something like this results in a seriously negative play and something like this actually costing them the game because let's face it, if they don't fumble the ball, they're in field goal range. They're going to get an opportunity to at least kick a field goal to win the game.

So it's just, it sucks for these guys. This is one of the things about playing. We've seen it with Chicago Bears. Teams that are good teams don't make these mistakes, especially in critical moments. This is something that the Chiefs have been unbelievable with. And there's a big reason why you guys have only lost one game is that you guys just are very, very smart in the most critical moments of it. I can't tell you that wasn't a good team though.

I hear you on that. Like you're saying the good teams, you know, that's, that's something that, you know, you just have to learn to live with and learn from. And it is what it is. Even great teams slip up and have those mix-ups. And I think they played this great all game. This dude, Brock Bowers, is having a fucking legendary season. And he really turned it up on us, especially in the second half. And late in those last couple drives, man, the guy seems unstoppable, man.

I'm just sitting here just watching every single snap is, and he's finding ways to get open through. And everybody's eyes are on him. Everybody's kind of like, he's a rookie. And everybody knows how good this guy is. He's a first round draft pick. He's literally been one of the best, if not the best tight end college football since he was a freshman.

The guy is an absolute beast both as a route runner with the ball in his hands and making plays for in the run game. And it's it's showing it's showing up each and every single week man. And it gets me excited to watch, you know, the tight ends, all the young tight ends in the league and you know how much of an impact they all make on their team, man. And he's definitely at the forefront. But this team, I mean, they play us tough,

and they have, for whatever reason, their defense did have a good, they had a good understanding of what we were trying to do and how to stop us and how to slow us down or eliminate a lot of the big time plays that we had. And on top of that, keep us out of that end zone. That was the biggest thing for me was, and where I take a lot of pride is once we get in that red zone, man, I get a little hungrier. And right now I just, for whatever reason this year, I just can't find my way in the end zone. I'm just not on the

same page as Pat. And it can get frustrating. It can get fucking frustrating. That's for damn sure. I think the play you're talking about is that cover zero blitz where... There was more than just one play. Okay. All right. There's that one where clearly Pat thought you were going to continue on that path. You thought he was going to kind of throw it upfield for you. But yeah. I was just trying to... That play specifically, it's cover zero. I'm thinking if I don't have it right now and the ball is still in Pat's hand I need to do something else to get open for him and gotcha. I just I went one way he threw it the other

Yeah, the Raiders are great team, especially defensively I think Patrick Graham is that pet is that the defense coordinator for the Raiders Patrick Graham? I played against him a bunch in New York Very smart guy like he always I feel like when he knows you, individual games are difficult because there's a lot of familiarity. And I just think that he is, he's just a very smart coordinator.

Those are typically the games that you know you're gonna get so the coaches start game planning those specific details and the scheme way in the off season before the schedule's even released. You know exactly who you're playing in your division. Let's get really good at playing those guys knowing that's what six games that Yeah, five games six games that we play right there. Yeah. Yep. It's a it's it's it's over a quarter of the actual season

So it's like let's get really good at those those games So you go into the off season preparing for those teams specifically. And you know, that doesn't that's not saying that we weren't preparing for them all off season. You know, they played us really well last year in the last year. Listen, we heard about it. We heard about it from Raiders fans all week in Tahoe. Yeah. Talking about ruining Christmas.

They knew about it all year next year ago. You know, you guys won this time. I hear you. you're right. Still gonna hear from the Raiders. I've been fortunate enough to beat the Raiders my entire career. Yeah. I've heard it from them every single time I go out.

Raiders fans are still gonna show up. Yeah. It's a good fan base for you. What is the feeling, why are you guys able to close out these games? Like what is, do you have an explanation for everybody who's asking these same questions on every sports show? Where we just regurgitate the fact that you guys find a way to win. Is there something more to it? I don't know you can call it luck. You can call it fortune

you can call it guys just playing their ass off until the last second is off that clock and We know a lot of weird shit happens in this league. I think both sides of the ball do a great job of that. That is the coaches do a great job of making sure the players know how wacky things happen in this league, let alone in this game. You know, we've seen a lot of the weirdest shit happen. I think it's just been coincidence that we've seen a lot of it happen this year just to us. Right. Typically though, just on the offensive side, we'll watch, I don't know, every college football

game, every two minutes from the NFL, every single week, and we'll get caught up on what's possible, what could possibly happen at the end of a game with these types of scenarios. And when you understand that that's, you know, when you understand the possibilities and you start to become more familiar with, you know, man, anything really can fucking happen if we just keep playing hard until the end of the game, no matter, you know, no matter what's happening, what's happened, you know, matter, you know, how the situation at hand, if there is a chance to win

If there is still a chance on that board. Yeah You keep playing man. You just you keep playing, you know to respect the guy next to you for for him Giving him given everything he's got to let's get into the game a little bit more into some of the other stuff Yeah, listen, I know you hold yourself to a really high standard. I think you're being a little hard on yourself. We did get a number of good plays from the big yeti, including another Travis lateral, which, I mean, who doesn't love a trav lateral? Again to P. Ron, you guys have like some type of chemistry here. Look at this, bow. Yeah, man. Right place, right time. I'm just, I'm happy it worked. I think Coach reads under unquote saying either today or yesterday that you know, yeah, if you're going to do it, it better work. If I

have a little bit more awareness, I don't even have to pitch it though, I can just get vertical up the hash and get the first down myself. So as I'm always watching the film, how can I make a play better? How can I make, you know, more of a smaller play game? Yeah. And if I could get the first by myself without laddering, lateraling the ball, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to try and do that. Um, this is kind of just an instinct that, uh, that I had, and I'm lucky that, you know, um, we completed and we, we were able to get a fresh set of downs there.

Well, I think you might, uh, be starting a trend now with the laterals you've done for a number of years now. We had Amari Cooper. Don't start this. What do you mean start this? Now, I'm the guy that fucking invented the lateral or made it comfortable for everybody. I didn't say you invented it. Don't give yourself too much credit.

Everybody's, even Collegeworth said something about me. This was nothing like what I've done. This is just a guy in the backyard playing football. Fair enough. Like the way he has. Yeah, this is this is the first one that just came. Yeah, exactly. This was just instinctual.

This was very intact. Well, they got me. They don't have you. You take it. Well, let me ask you this play as an expert of laterals. Should we see more laterals in the NFL? It's the most underused rule in the game of football. Yes.

God, I love that answer. I love that you're fucking saying that. I think I heard Rich Eisen mention that early on in my career and I was like, damn, he ain't lying man. That shit would be sweet if we were out here just fucking flipping it around every single play. And that's what football used to be. Are you saying that you are taking your football playing advice from Rich Eisen?

I mean, I'd take a, I'd take any type of advice from Rich Eisen, man. That's a good point. He's a pretty awesome dude and smart. Well put together. Yes. That's right. All right. It's a man right there. This was also officially scored as a Josh Allen seven yard touchdown pass to Josh Allen, which yeah, it's pretty cool. Should they start like giving? Assists. I feel like they should say an assist. This should be a version of an NFL assist, right? The thing is, I just don't think it happens enough for them to even create a category for it. But you could do this now even like when people pitch the ball like in the backfield like on a reverse or something like that That's an assist by the guy who I feel like it needs to be tracked. This should not go

Unaccounted for in the stack category. I like assists. It feels like it's an assist Yeah. All right. Well, hopefully Josh man the old three-man weave dude follows my dude And I was watching the we're going to get into the Eagles-Ramons game. I was like, dude, they should definitely design a no joke before this game happened. I was like, they should definitely have a play where Lamar, I think after you lateraled it,

where he runs after like a hitch, like the slot area, and just like catches a hook and lateral. Like, I don't know. Feel like it'd be an awesome play. If you can get a defense to play soft enough coverage where it's a guaranteed hitch and the play doesn't just ride. It would have to be the right situation

of like third and like 25 or like a two minute type situation. But then you're even, yeah, I'm telling you, it's, I've dreamt of all of these situations, I promise you. And I feel like I have a decent grasp on when a team's playing soft enough to be able to catch the ball and evaluate and be able to throw a pitch or a lateral out there. I mean, clearly you do. Or you catch them in man to man and you just, you beat your defender. Now all of a sudden, you know that there's only one there's one guy for every other like route around you yes you know and that's what happened in in buffalo

ironically uh last year the good news from that win the chiefs are officially in the playoffs i know that you guys are really worried about this but you have officially clinched a playoff seed in the afc tra Travis will be playing extra football as well as his rest of his teammates and the Chiefs. So congratulations on making the 2024 NFL playoffs, Trav. Thank you, man. And as shitty as I've played, you know, it does feel good to be, you know,

in my 10th year in a row making the playoffs, man. 10th year in a row? Dude, that is fucking insane. It is. Absolutely insane. That is so crazy. Time flies when you're having fun, baby. Let's make the most of it, man.

Let's make the most of it. One goal has been reached. We gotta win the division. That's another goal that we gotta reach and then secure home field advantage, which we have the keys to the car in that race as well. So we, um, we just got to finish strong, baby. Just finish strong and, uh, and then, you know, get, get violently accurate with our intentions. I love that. Alrighty. Speaking of the division, the chiefs will host the, uh, Los Angeles

chargers in Arrowhead this week against Jim Harbaugh and company. That's right. Do you like playing divisional opponents first at their place and then second at home or do you care? I don't even know why I'm asking this question. Interim Brandon put it there. No, I don't think it matters where we play them. I'll play them in a fucking CBS parking lot. Man, I love the divisional games. It's a complete, it's a whole new sense of like competitiveness. Yeah. And it's a whole new like focus, the intricacies of the game, the fundamentals, the what move that I used last time, what move, what play did we use last time? That what look did we give them last time? All those things start to play a little bit more

and it's even more of a chess match. You know, it's the closest thing to a playoff football game that I feel like you really get. And when there's a playoff potential team in your division that you're playing, like the Chargers or like the Broncos that we have at the end of the year, you know, it makes it even more of a,

I don't know, just like excitement. It's exciting to get ready for these games, man. And I mean, the Chargers, they're a new team. They're way more motivated and way more focused team than I thought they were in the past years. And sure enough, their quarterback's playing really fucking good right now. And that defense has got some absolute beasts that we got to be ready for. That's right. Yeah, Harbaugh has them playing much better. I mean, it's largely the same team, but they got a lot of confidence right now and it's evident and the quarterback

is playing with that level. He is making some big time throws. They're playing with some fucking heart and I hadn't seen that in the Chargers in a long time. All right. He has a new member of the ESPN family this season. I'm excited to shout them out as our next sponsor. What? What? Da da da, da da da. As of today, ESPN is now on Disney+.

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Let's get into this Eagles-Ravins game. What do you say, Trav? Let's do it. Eagles 24, Ravens 19. Eagles come out on top in the bird bowl. I bought that. I bought that. One of the bird bowls in the league. Initial thoughts, Jason.

Huge win for the birds. And by birds, I mean the Eagles, bought that. One of the bird bowls in the league. Initial thoughts, Jason. Huge win for the birds. And by birds, I mean the Eagles, that bird. Nice. Listen, the Eagles have been playing a lot better since the bye. But this was a win in my opinion that I think myself and a lot of people think the Ravens are among the best teams in the NFL from a talent perspective. They have so many very good pieces. This was a huge test for the Eagles, the Eagles defense and them as a team. And they largely answered the bell. I thought they put

together a great game. The front is playing so good between Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis and the edges. A guy like Jalex Hunt stepped up big time in Brandon Graham's absence. edges. A guy like Jalex Hunt stepped up big time in Brandon Graham's absence. Linebackers, the Kobe Dean and Zach Bond are playing and flying around. They're playing very aggressive in smart football and I love watching it right now. The DBs, they've just been able to shut teams down quite frankly. Cooper Dejean, rookie has come in and played lights out, read blanket ship. We still got our man Darius Slay who's out this past week, but Quinian Mitchell, the other rookie that we drafted in the first round is playing great football. Offensively, they've had, they found an identity, right? They have Saquon Barkley, which he's

been unbelievable. We're going to get to that in a second. But I think with the pieces they have, I don't know how you defend them. I really don't. If you play, I talked about this a little bit on Monday Night Football, but if you play man coverage, A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith are going to annihilate you if you're going to try and live in that world. If you play shell, Shaquem Barkley is going to be a heavy dose. If you want to play these zones, this is really what worked very well against the Ravens. They ran the zone read plays, the RPOs, and the play actions were all so synchronistic. Okay, synchronistic. I don't know how you defend the Philadelphia Eagles as an offense.

The Ravens, I mean, they didn't allow that many points, but I think it was an impressive performance for the Eagles. It's been a present impressive performance for, for just about all season long, man, especially since they got Saquon Barkley back there, no doubt running the rock and even more so in the second half. He's been amazing and it's fun to watch him kind of take over games there in the second half. And you tweeted about it saying, Jason tweeted on on X. Saquon has been so good in the fourth quarter this year. How many enormous game leading or ceiling big runs has he had?

It's insane how clutch he's been with an exclamation point. You don't always see Jason use punctuation like that only when he needs it. And it's it's true, man, it's true. It's, it feels like whenever they need a huge play there in the second half, who better than Saquon Barkley to give that fucking ball to, man? He's like zero to 60 faster than any other fucking human that I've ever seen, man.

And he's, he's such a big dude, quads enormous. So you're trying to tackle this dude or slow him down or get an arm on him. If you don't get a thick solid hit on him, then he's liable to fucking break one. You saw it, like two plays in a row. It was an outside zone to the left where the safety just fucking got his cleats and he was kicking himself. He was like, man, that was it. That was it. Let alone, little did he know he's going to get another chance later on that drive to really break one, man. And that's where the MVP kind of chatter really fits in. I mean, obviously the yards, he's

the leading back in the NFL right now with a chance to break the all time Russian record, which would be completely electric. The thing that makes him so valuable and so unique is these second half big explosive runs that have either sealed games or put games out of reach. For instance, the run from last week on the tackle-pull play, he had to run through a couple arm tackles, which might not seem like much, but maybe if it's another back, you get down at the five and you don't end up getting in the end zone there. And like, the defenses have been very staunch

in the red zone. Saquon being able to run and finish these plays off in the most critical parts of the game, it's been such a huge determining factor in the Eagles' late in games and why they've been able to win games. It's been arguably the most valuable factor to have. I think he's up there. I mean, again, it's obviously a quarterback driven

stat, but if Saquon Barkley breaks a record that's been in the NFL, I mean, when did Eric Dickerson set that record? 84. 84. The record's been since 1984. If he breaks that record and the Eagles somehow end up being the NFC champions, I don't know how you don't give it to say one Barkley. I really don't. Even if he doesn't break the fucking record, if he's the best player on one of the best teams in the league and he's proven it year in, year out in the biggest moments, what are we even fucking talking about?

That's a good point. All right. I think that makes sense. What are your final thoughts on this one, big dog? My final thoughts are the Eagles prove that they are legit Super Bowl contenders unequivocally with this win. If they stay healthy, I don't know that there's a more talented team than them in the NFL. I might be able to argue that.

Well, okay, can I say NFC at least? Will you at least agree? I mean, well, the Detroit Lions are pretty damn talented. That's the one thing, man. I really, just as a football fan, as a fucking offensive line fan, there is nothing more than I would like to see than the Detroit Lions face off against the Philadelphia Eagles. Like I want that game to happen so bad. I think all of the NFL wants this to happen, Jason. Who doesn't want to fucking see that?

This is how the NFL fucking got where it is today. It is 70s, 80s, handing that fucking thing off to guys like Eric Dickerson. The guys like Jim Brown. Everybody wants to see that thing in someone's hand and everybody try and stop that man. I'm with you. I will say this. I'm talking a lot about the Eagles. Mark Andrews had a touchdown in that game.

Dude, Mark is a fucking dog. Dude, right now him and Likely, that is a fucking scary dynamic to have in the tight end room to have to fucking get ready for. Dude, that first touchdown that Andrews caught, where he just like caught it above his head and like held it there. He's a fucking beast, man.

It might be the most manned touchdown I've ever seen. Like, it was like, I'm bigger than all of you other mother. It was like, like he went up for a rebound and just like, it was, I'm telling you, the ball, like a little giants, like a little giants moment. I'm like, he is squeezing the fuck out of it. How big are his hands? That ball looks so small. Yeah, it was, I don't know why that stood out to me so much market right now is playing like, you know One of the best tight ends if not the best tight end the league right now I know him George and Brock Bowers those dudes are absolutely playing fucking ball right now

Yeah, and it's fun to watch next week The Eagles are gonna face Bryce Young and the Panthers not just Bryce Young a new and improved brush young who is playing his ass off right now. I mean, quite literally, I mean, they nearly got the win against the Bucks. It's two weeks in a row that Bryce Young has been playing really well. The Panthers might officially be good. I know the Eagles should for sure be worried about them because they are playing everybody tight recently. I play them and I can tell you, they've officially been good for at least the past two weeks.

Yeah. If not before that, we were kind of seeing that, we started to see that thing kind of build and mold together before their bye week, before we played them. And then sure enough, they play us just as good as anybody. Honestly, they've been playing better ever since I made the joke that they were the worst team in the NFL. That's what happens, Jason. It's like the kicker's thing.

You're officially- I just gotta stop. I gotta stop talking. I mean, keep shitting on people and watch people fucking turn. That's what I should do. Shit on people and then all of a sudden they play better and I can take credit for that even though it makes, I had no impact in it whatsoever. Sounds like a typical media person, right?

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Before we get to Bill, it's time for some no dumb questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions, 92 percenters. Just you dumbasses asking them, I mean us answering them. No dumb questions is brought to you by Google TV. No more endless browsing. Google TV makes it easy to find things you love to watch. Alrighty. From Valerie Jean Louis and Twitter. There we go. Nice.

My no dumb question is if you could have been on any team from kids movies or TV show, which would it be and why? Interesting. Any kids movie or TV show. So she's looking for a kid centric team, essentially. I think it's just like kids movie. But it's not like Remember the Titans. I guess they're teenagers and that's a high school movie. So that's still couch, right? Any team from a kids movie or a TV show.

But is it a kids TV show or is it just a regular? I don't know. Valerie, you got to be specific if you want somebody like Jason to answer your question. Yeah, but don't forget we are dumb you gotta be specific if you want somebody like Jason to answer your question. Yeah, but don't forget, we are dumbasses. Travis just told you we are very stupid. But who are you going with? We can't pick Sandlot, because they just picked Sandlot. So Valerie, thanks for taking the fucking answer

that we probably both would have picked. From kids. All right, let's think kids movies that are sports. Teams, Space Jam, we talked about it with Bill. I mean, kids be on the Monstars you get to be on the MondStars. Would you be on the MondStars or would you be on Jordan's Toon Squad? I might go MondStars, that'd be a fucking electric group

to be a part of. Yeah, except that you wouldn't be the one controlling your MondStar. I might be a MondStar if I'm on the MondStars. You're gonna be one of those little fuckers? The little fetshits? That's who you wanna be? Not when I steal, who's talent when I steal?

I wouldn't, okay, so I can't steal one of them. I'll play that game with you. Yeah, I would steal. If you were an alien. I would steal Shaquille O'Neal. I would steal Shaquille O'Neal's talent. Shit. God damn.

You would be. That's right. Who the fuck is stopping me with Shaquille O'Neal's talent. I don't know Greg public Tim Duncan yeah Jack didn't check was unstoppable wasn't yeah, that wasn't the issue now Stopping him was impossible. All right. I think I'm going space jam. Who are you going? I'm going to go, man, there was just, as a kid, I just loved Major League, man. That's not a kid's movie.

It is in my book. All right, fine. What is it? Does it? Is that? Willie Mays Hayes, Rookie of the Year. There's so many good ones. Angels in the Outfield.

I'd love to fucking feel what it's like to. I kind of feel like you guys are the Angels in the Outfield. Are the Angels in the Outfield? There's some unknown, like. Damn. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Here you go with this fucking Tay Budu shit.

Ha ha ha. This dude's such a dickhead. Ha ha ha. Who you going with? Kicking and screaming? God damn, these are all fucking golden. I'm going to say the fucking, the little giants, man. Yeah. Me and Icebox.

I figured that's where you're going to go. It's going to be fucking unstoppable out there. Spike would have no fucking choice but to eat shit. I'm taking you against Spike any day. All right. I like that. There you have it. Great question, Valerie Jean-Louis. So yeah, if you're interested for something to watch with the kids, you can check out my Google TV list. Lilo and Stitch.

We got Brink. How electric is Brink? I love all those. I love all those. Rollerblading period. When was the last time you saw a fucking kid rollerblading man? I want to get back on. When's the last time you saw a kid with a fucking raspberry on his knee? Cause he fucked his shit up outside. Get outside. You first aid kit your mom's dads have in the house. If you never scrape your knee, how are you going to know what life is actually born? Well did you use Neosporin? Neosporin, well done.

Oh gosh. How are you gonna know how to put a butterfly bandaid on? You know? These are fucking essential skills that you're gonna eventually need in life. They need to get outside and fuck some shit up to go figure that out. That's right, that's right.

If you, show me a kid that hasn't scraped their knee and I'll show you Someone that has a gluten allergy. All right, there's a bunch of classes That was uncalled for Shout out to cousin wrists All right, there's a bunch of classics that you're gonna want to you'll love watching with the family That does it for no dumb questions brought to you by our friends at Google TV. Be sure to check out my show and movie Confessions now. That's right.

I don't know why I said that. It was so perfect. We're so pumped to be partnering with our friends at Google TV. How about it? And I know Jason's been getting to play around with it. Jason, want to share more with the 92%ers? Yeah, Trav. Google TV makes it so easy to find what you want to watch since it brings all of your

favorite movie shows and live TV channels across your subscriptions all in one place. Nice. One of my favorite features, and one that I know United 2% would love, is that you can also get recommendations based on what you already like, including live sports content tailored just for you. Right on your For You tab,

it lets you jump straight into the action and access live games from your favorite teams. And if you're like me and you always forget to write down the name of a new show someone recommends, Google TV also has you covered with their awesome watch list feature. It's so easy to add new things, you can even do it right from your phone. And if you're looking for some fresh things to add to your watch list, surprise me Jason, what would I'd like to see on your list?

My list is dominated by Bluey. I mean, it's the number one on the list at all times. I would say, you know, Little Giants is always on my list. Little Mighty Ducks Action. Head to g.co.tv slash new heights right now to learn more. And while you're at it, make sure to check out my show and movie Confessions on Google TV. I might be biased, but I definitely have the best watch list out. All righty, our guest today. on Google TV. I might be biased, but I definitely have the best watch list out there.

Alrighty, our guest today, you might know him from his run on SNL. Legendary movies like Caddyshack, Ghostbusters, Stripes, Space Jams, Lost in Translation, my personal favorite, Kingpin, basically anything with Wes Anderson. He's an Emmy winner, Academy Award nominee, and of course a winner for the Mark Twain Prize

for American humor. Yes, sir. And he's also now my official golf competitor. Yeah. Yeah. Please welcome Bill Murray! Thank you. Baby. How many movies do we miss?

What about Bob, Groundhog's Day? Yeah. I mean, we'd be Groundhog's Day. Yeah, I Don't think I mean we'd be here all day Yeah, well we got it's are you guys on an hourly or is this a flat rate? Honestly, we will take whatever you give us. There's a lot of them, but you know some you know people have their favorites You did yours. We're good. I'm fine. Let's start. Let's start off with your favorite, dude Well, I always say I like this. I like you would have done over well You probably like a game that you played really well and you lost or something like that. Yeah possible

Yeah, so not that they lost but I made a movie called broken flowers with Jim Jarmusch I thought was a great movie and I made another movie called the man who knew too little with a director named John a meal That had it was had some really really funny stuff and some really great actors. That is another one of our favorites. That one had some really funny stuff. When you're on the side of the building and they're shooting up at you and oh my gosh. The freaking Russian dancing scene with the doll. Oh my gosh. My knees have never been the same and I really did it too.

Those were real Russian dancers like, man, God, what the hell's that guy doing? He's actually doing it. Of course, I never walked again, but I mean, it was, it was, I really went hard for that one. Yeah, that's awesome. We're going to talk a little bit of golf. We're in Georgia at... Georgia? This is Cobb. What's the name of this? Cobb? Cobb County? Cobb County. Cobb Town. We're near Cobb Town. We're in Cobb Town, Georgia at Ohupi. Two B's in Cobb Cobb County Cobb County Cobb Town near Cobb Town We have town Georgia to know that Oh Hoopy two bees in Cobb you guys are over at a Hoopy Yeah, yeah onion town on your country. That is I don't know if it's the onion Onion is definitely a little go do they grow onions here Gil. Is that the deal? We're talking to Gil Hanson one of

One of several people taking credit for designing the golf course. Yeah Jim Waggers. It is a beautiful golf course man. Have you been down here? Hell yeah. Two off seasons ago. Saw the what is it the Zebras off in the distance? Yep Zebras they got they have Zebras they have Wildebeest. What else they have out there Bill? And they have my caddy, Eric, who's off in the distance. Yeah, offering zero help. Yeah, we had a great time out there today. Eric, we had Gray, the other caddy. Gray's a jerk. You didn't like Gray?

No, he's all right. He's from Alabama. Heavy accent. He's on the comeback trail. Played safety at Auburn. He's pretty... What? He's an interesting guy. Played safety at Auburn. He's pretty... What? He's an interesting guy. Played safety at Auburn and he's caddying for you.

I love it. You have somebody that you really like playing golf with. Who are your favorite golf partners you've played with through the years? I kind of like playing with women. They're more fun. They're sort of less threatening to me. Okay. But they just seem to be having a better time, most of them.

I play golf with this good golfer who lives up north and south named Bridget Rooney. I had a good time playing with Larry David, who's actually a funny guy to play golf. It's not bad to play golf with a total curmudgeon. He really enjoys the game a lot. So he's not like all, he didn't get all mental when he hits a bad shot. Were you always a golf guy? When did you get into the sport? God, what a setup that is. Were you always a golf guy? Yeah, no, I did some, I did my share of exotic dancing, but then I, I started as, I mean, I began as a caddy.

I mean, I was a child before that, but I started as a caddy. And that's kind of what happened. I was a shag boy and then I was a caddy. And you kind of, you know, once you're caddy for years, you know, you kind of, you're in. You know, it's like a baptism without, you know, approval. You're in.

So that's sort of what- Is that just like the summer job or? Yeah. Well, in my family, you're in. So that's sort of what- Was that just like the summer job or? Yeah, well in my family you had to, like if you wanted to go to high school, if you wanted to go to the Catholic school, you had to pay for it yourself. So not that I necessarily wanted to pay for it, but my elder brothers had gone there,

so that's what I was gonna do, and they'd done the same thing. Ed and Brian had both paid their way through high school, getting and gambling, learning the intricacies of cars. And so I had to do that, too. Nice. What is it about golf that you like so much? Well, if I'm trying to stick up for it, you know, like I often am. Like a lot of people go like golf.

Oh, you're chasing your little white ball around in your funny little clothes. But it's really, you know, maybe one of the only games that's a game of self report where you have to say what your score is. Yeah. So the problem today was I had no idea what my score was. Neither did you. I'm looking at my caddy and he's going, we relied on it. All he was doing was to a fault. I don't think we got it. I think we'll never know if we got tied by Eric's account. According to Eric, we tied.

But that's because someone sitting in one of these chairs gave Eric $700 in small, small bills. And I'm not talking fives. Small bills? Yeah. Throwing ones at him every shot? But that's one thing about golf, it's a game of self-report, where your honesty is a key thing.

You know, and I don't know if you play with people that cheat at golf, but you can cheat on your income taxes. You can cheat on your spouse, you can cheat on your spouse your lover but you cheated golf we're done. No second chances. I understand the impulse to cheat it on taxes or like another guy another woman but you cheated golf I don't ever want to see your face in it. The golden rule.

So there's that so there's like a code you, there's a code which a lot of, you know, Aries sport has a code, but that, I think that has a fierce code. It's a game of, it's a body attention, you know, self-awareness kind of game. You know, you have to, I don't know what football is like beyond the like freshman year of high school level, but you know, you really have to be really have to be composed to play it correctly, to play it your best. Quiet inside and the most efficient use of your body and everything, so it's like that.

It's, I like it. It doesn't look like that. One of the most uncomposed people in the fucking world is Jason Kelsey and Tahoe. Oh my gosh. We did see Jason absolutely special. It's first round. Oh, is he like diving into the lake or what?

He might as well. I might have. He might not like it. We came out the gates hot. I think he was he was I think he was plus four. I think he was like in the red for the was in the red for the first three holes, three or four holes. This is very nice of you to bring this up, Travis. Double, double, double, double, double, double.

This is what you have brothers for. Yeah, no, it's good. Keep your composure, man. I'll tell you what, you got uncomposed. I took you out of your game. What is that, the second or third day? That's right. I was playing so bad, you started playing like that.

It was either you or the Lucky Beaver. I can't figure out which one it was. The Lucky Beaver might have did it, yeah. So how many courses are you involved with? Like members with? How many Lucky Beavers do you guys know? Well, I know one officially titled Lucky Beaver. In Nevada?

In Reno, yeah. I listened. Highly recommend it. I didn't see any in there, but I was in there grabbing some drinks. Yeah. Oh, is that the name of a bar? It's a bar.

So were you guys playing as a team in Tahoe? Were you against each other's rivals? No, Tahoe's individual scores, yeah. It's an individual, yeah. It's a point-based though. The max is double bogey, and that's minus three points, I believe. And then from there, it kind of just.

You were playing together. We were playing, we were paired together, but we weren't. Yeah. Yeah, we were against each other. You play with a different group every day, different twosome or something? It's typically a round of three guys just so they can keep the pace up. We played with Andrew Whitworth, a tackle that played in the league for a long time in Cincinnati. I hate that guy.

You don't like Andrew? I don't like him. Well, he's a very hateable guy. You've played in a bunch of programs. If he's not holding, I don't know who the hell he is. You haven't got an invite for him. He ain't lying, man. So true.

He ain't lying. That's some good shit, man. The camera of shame. lying, man. He ain't lying. So true. That's some good shit, man. The camera of shame. Shame that man. Show his face, show us his face. Yeah, I'd like to see someone. So if you take off your helmet, you have to come off the field?

That's a flag. It's actually a penalty. It's a flag? Yes. It's a flag. If your helmet comes off. You have to leave the field for a play or something? I believe you have to leave the field to have it put back on

or something like that. But if you take it off, that's a penalty. So yeah, you can't do that. Bill, you've been invited to a bunch of pro-ams. Tahoe hasn't gave you a shout yet. Have you ever even been out to Tahoe? Yeah, back when it was just a pond. Yeah.

Yeah. They still got that, that's for sure. Yeah, no, I read the Mark Twain, I read it. Yeah, I've had some good, I've had a nice time at Tahoe, but I like to swim in it. The golf always, those guys always seemed a little too serious for me. I hear you.

That crowd seemed a little too serious. It is pretty serious. Yeah, I played with those guys once and that was enough. Let's get, let's touch. And I did play with my kids, I played a, we got trapped there playing a couple of slot machines. Hey, yo. And I got stuck on one that was the Bonanza slot machine.

Okay. And if you got two out of three. To write this shit down. If you put in three dollars and you got two back, it played, bum, bada, bum, bada, the Bonanza song, you know, and it was like, hey, you feel like you're winning while you're losing a dollar at a time for, I don't know, seven, nine hours, I don't know.

I think that's the most fun I have in Tile is when everybody goes from being done with playing golf and we just jump over to the casino. What's your dumb game? What's your dumb game? Travis plays roulette. Roulette, I fucking love it. That's good. God damn, I love it.

It's so stupid. It's so fun. Jason says it's stupid, the only time he's ever played with me, won Buku bucks. That's because you were having fun. Well, I know how that is. It's like if you're flush and you got a lot of money on you,

you go like, what's your number? And you tell everybody what's your number. And I remember having like a lot of per diem going there for some goofy thing and, what's your number? So I had like seven people's number. We were winning like all the time. Meanwhile, I'm the only guy putting up the money

Six times and one of us is losing and that's not me. It's never me. I'm like so happy for you Yeah I was pretty much broke in about 120 minutes and but other people were walking out with like big bags of pockets I love it. We are supported obviously by Amazon Prime. That's right. Many of you know Prime for its lightning fast free shipping. That's just the beginning, Jason. Prime is a powerhouse of perks. That's right. The powerhouse of perks. Nice alliteration there. I love that.

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Oh, I thought you were gonna say, let's take some phone calls. We do have a Heights hotline. Hey, we got somebody here from Houston. I might be the only one. You grew up in Chicago, Chi-town, baby, with eight siblings. What number are you in the?

I was five of nine. Five of nine? Okay. Where there were nine of us. Nice. And boy, girl, how many brothers, how many sisters? I don't know. I knew their names. There were six boys and there were three girls.

Okay. That sounds like a bad house. Nine? We had nine. You guys could feel a whole diamond. Yeah, for sure. Did you guys ever just go family versus family out on the diamond?

Yeah, we had some cousins, the Collins', they had nine too. Wow. At least I think they had nine. They were not as tall as we were, so they could have had more or less, we couldn't tell. We liked to play them in basketball.

There we go. That was our game. We played a lot of sports. We played everything. Basically, I would spend the winter, long winters there, hitting rocks with a baseball bat over the fence of the backyard. Oh yeah.

Until I would hear someone go, ah! And my neighbor getting into his car, taking one right in the forehead. Oh shit. Who'd you get your sense of humor from? Your mother, father, siblings? Well, that's, well, my siblings are humorous. I got some funny brothers and sisters.

They're all funny. Yeah. We used to think our dad, our dad was a really, really tough laugh. So if you could make him laugh, that was like, you looked at your brother and sister going, see that? And you made them him laugh, that was like, you looked at your brother and sister going, see that? And you made them laugh, see that? But oddly, when the bunch of us that went, sort of continued being funny for a living, sort of,

it turned out we were all doing our mother. That we actually, like when we went into like a silly, goofy mode, we were actually doing our mother. So she was more of a character than my dad was. My dad was, you know, he was hard to read because he was not an easy left. Would you call yourself the troublemaker of the family

or what? No, I was the good one. Good one? Yeah. You were the good one. Nice. No, I was the worst. I was the worst.

I was the worst. Fuckin' said, you had me bear trap me. You asked me a question. Look, it said me have you bear trapped me? You asked me a question. Yeah. What did your old man what did your father's old lumber? Sold lumber. Sold lumber. But he just when he started to make real, real money, he died. He died very young. 46 years old he was. So nowadays that's really young.

Even then, I was really young. But to leave nine kids, it was a tough moment for him. Absolutely. He was a great man. But then my mother sucked it up and went to work as a cement finisher. Wow. No, not really.

There's no chance that this. She worked in the mail room. She worked in the mail room. She got it. I got you emotional emotional and now you're a puppet. You fucking reeled me in. You're a professional. Sorry. She also had nine caddies.

She had nine kids. She had nine kids. And then she went, but she took a job and, you know, she was quite a strong woman. You started off in improv when you started getting into comedy? Is that accurate or should I say? Yeah, that's right. That's right. Did any of your siblings also do?

Well, my brother Brian was the first one to go. Yeah. He was a little bad. Yeah, he was the first one to go. He started going to Second City. I was going to say Second City. Yeah. Taking improv class and so forth and then he kind of progressed and before you knew it,

he was in the show. So I would go down there and watch him and watch he and Harold Ramis and Joe Flaherty and Belushi and all these guys. They were all ahead of me and I would just go there to hang out really because it was sort of a safe zone for me. For sure. But I got, it was an accident. The first time I tried to, I tried an improv class. I was so bad. I

like walked out on the street and walked about 60 blocks south, which is Probably the wrong direction for me to be going back then it was I had all of a sudden I was like at 63rd and stony and I'm like, what am I doing here? I don't I don't eat I I'm now I gotta run. Sorry. I felt like I was scared of the dark. Yeah, it was that's how bad I was. And that's how how disturbing it was to think you're good and not be good. But then years later, I got, you know, someone, I was like, kind of very poetic. underneath the clock at Marshall Fields, I've stepped out and, you know, bells are ringing at six o'clock

Christmas Eve. And there's the lady who teaches the improv. She says, you're Brian's little brother. Yeah. Do you know how to paint? You mean like houses? Yeah, yeah. I'll give you a scholarship if you come and paint my kitchen. And so that's the story. But anyway.

What? That's awesome. No, it doesn't have a happy ending. Turns out she's one of those ladies that has like cats Oh, and everything she wears is purple. Yeah, you know, I don't know if these people exist anymore No, they do they definitely do. So anyway, it's a lot of them listening to the show actually. Yeah anyway I've known I've known more than a few but um, but this one had to have the kitchen painted purple.

That's why I painted a lot of purple kitchen. So she lived in what they call a garden apartment, which is like below the ground level. So all the pipes of the whole building came through her kitchen ceiling. So I had to paint all those hot pipes. So I was purple for about a week, eight days or so. Oh nice.

And burned too. From that point on, you knew you wanted to do improv. It's kind of. And burned, the tomb. What is it? Nice, and from that point on, you knew you wanted to do improv, that's crazy. You know, I don't know if either of you have ever been speckled with purple paint, but it puts a fire, it lights a fire in you. Ha ha ha ha. It lights a fire, and you gotta keep going.

So I went to, actually, so in high school, we went to Second City, I played in the jazz, this is kind of embarrassing to say, I played in the jazz ensemble, we would tour different cities and one of the cities went to was Chicago. Went to second city, it was awesome. That was my first experience with improv.

I've recently been back to an improv show for the first time since then, which was 2004. I went to Upright Citizen Brigade in LA and I did their Ask Kat Show. Are you familiar with that? Where they invite like a guest who does like a monologue and then from that monologue the crew just takes off. And I mean just some of the funniest. Did you do a monologue? I did a monologue. I did a few of them. What was your theme?

We just took questions from like the audience and then you'd go into a story from there. I told a story about how I got lost at a county fair and mom had to try and search for us but. Classic. Just watching how people, how they could play off of each other, I was mesmerized just watching the whole show take place. How do you, I don't know, now that we're talking

about improv, I just, I wanna ask you, how do you learn to do that? Like are there techniques? Are there things that happen behind the show where you build like a chemistry with the person? It just, it seemed insane to me that they were able to make all this stuff. Is this going to be yet another career change for you? Another one.

First your jazz music and then this football thing. I think this is after Gov. The podcast. This is after Mayor. Well, the guys that are really good, I don't consider myself a great improviser. I think this is after Gov. This is after Mayor. The guys that are really good, I don't consider myself a great improviser. They were people that were always better than I was. But people that are good at it, and my brother Joel is very good at it, is listening to what

the other person says and trying to figure out, they're giving you information. What do you do with that information? Right. Bad improvisers are people that have an idea what they're going to do and they just you do with that information? Right. You know, bad improvisers are people that have an idea what they're gonna do and they just sort of try to barrel through it. Well, that's a one man show. You know, it's not a team game.

And it's, you know, the dictum is yes and. You know, you say something to me, I agree with that and, and I come back with that. You never deny what someone says. You build on what they give you. You're starting with building blocks of information. That's how it goes. And you know, the better people can make something that's really, really magical. You know, because if you really connect to the ideas that are being shared,

especially in like a group improv, like a nine-person, twelve-person, like they call the Herald, you know, where you could take an idea that's over that this group over here brings up and and Weave them together into something. It's an amazing amazing experience. I love it, man But what is interesting about improv? It feels like they do oftentimes do make great actors They do make great writers like all the people on the wall in that second city when I was there Back then to see all these wonderful well they only put the good people on the wall. That's true. That's very, there are dozens that are buried in a shallow grave just the other side of North Avenue. It feels like improv as opposed

to like stand up. I would like it feels like there's like a natural. Well, I'm naturally prejudiced towards our team, you know? Yeah. We always feel like at Saturday Night Live. Yeah. You know, those people were sort of, most of them were kind of improvisational players, you know? Right.

And the ones that could do that just seemed to be able to like work together better and most especially because you'd write the show on a weekly basis. You only had a couple days to write it. Yeah. Those actors that had that kind of training could sort of solve the puzzle of the sketch on the air almost, you know, and be like, you know, you could go like, hey, wait, this, what if, and you just sort of go there in the last hour or two just to make it right,

you know, you could rewrite just because you were aware you had all that all that information what seems could be here what supposed to be right and you can figure out an ending so that's when you see those actors they basically make it do better you know the ones that were stand-up guys were you know sort of made more like stand-up pieces more solo pieces that were spectacular you know right you know Eddie Murphy in the hot tub or whatever those guys made those kinds of performance pieces but the ensemble pieces and they they're actually doing really great ones now they they do some really you know people always give me a hard time about look oh

god the original show was so great and it's lousy now. I'm like, no, it's not. The show that's on now, they do stuff that's just as good as anybody ever did, all the time. Oh, I love it, man. SNL's still one of my favorites. What do I do before we get into your SNL career? What do you think it is?

You don't have to talk about me all the time. You guys can talk about... Travis did SNL, absolutely killed it. You did it, right? Yeah. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I hosted two years ago. Yeah. After the first... I saw, I mean, I saw some of it. I record it. So because I'm usually doing something else, but I saw some of it. It was funny. I appreciate that, man. It was an absolute blast. You just buckle up and you just enjoy

that ride, man. And like you said, the scenes, the sketches can change last minute because somebody has the brilliance of mind to either take something out or put a punchline or in man. And the damn producers gotten so good, he's gotten so damn good at it. He's just ruthless. Who's that? I forget his name. What's the guy's name? What's the What's the lead producer of that show? Yeah. He's been on, he's been drawing a paycheck for 50 years. He's on a- That was one thing-

I just watched the Apple TV movie Saturday night on their first ever show, like the 90 minutes leading up to that first show with Belushi kind of going crazy and just all the madness that happens in there and the magic that happens as well of it finally coming together and them going live, man, and the rest is history. But for those SNL lovers out there, man, make sure you check that one out. I did, I really do want to know, what do you think it is about Second City that prepares so many people? Because it's almost like a pipeline, or at least it was for SNL for quite a while.

Well, it sure was. like a pipeline or at least it was for SNL for quite a while. Well, it sure was. I mean, now it's a now it's like a it's like University of Phoenix or something. There's like thousands of people there. They've got like a they have like a high rise of like classes of people taking the thing. But it used to be, you know, sort of a gritty kind of, you know, practice squad, third string, second string, first string kind of thing. But it used to be, you know, sort of a gritty kind of, you know, practice squad, third string, second string, first string kind of thing. Yeah. And you had to, you know, you knew who was better than you, loud and clear, you know, it's very clear who could do it and who couldn't. And if you weren't as good as that

person, you just had to just keep chewing. Nice. So and that's how it was pretty much, I mean, recently, I don't know who's on first name or about coming out there But I mean they had a great run of people that came out of there like when Chris Farley and those people came out of there that that was a good group and the original like Belushi and You know myself Gilda Ackroyd, you know those people, you know, so it comes like Probably the same deal comes in waves, you know, but now there's so many. I don't know what to make of it, but it's a great thing to learn how to do.

It's a great way to live life like that, too. You talked about this. I think the improv thing, if you like you're bringing up, that's like a team game. You're working with other people in like a collaborative experience. When Travis was on SNL, that was the one thing that stood out about SNL, is the amount of people that make that show possible. And you know, you brought up Lorne. I didn't know what to expect from Lorne going to it.

I didn't know that he was still like doing the whole thing in like a very active manner. Like even up until like right before the thing goes live, right after that first rehearsal, he's cutting things and changing bits. Like all the people, all the makeup, the wardrobe, everybody's got like their own pit crew. It felt the most like a game day for football outside of that experience. You ain't lying. Yeah.

You see that when people win a championship, they say they credit the whole organization and it really is that way. Yeah. And I've said this, you know, this is old news, but like when Lauren got that show together, he demanded from NBC that they give him the best sound man, the best sound mixer, the best technical director, the best lighting guy, the best prop man.

And all those guys that were on that show were the best in the business at doing it. So that when, you know, Mickey Mouse here comes up and like blows it and Willie, the prop man says, Billy, I was there waiting for you at the door. I had the pistol in my hand. You didn't get there on time. And he kills you. He's just he looks at you like, you're not there yet, son.

You're just not there yet. Wow. But I also credit those people because they were there on the original shows like Your Show of Shows and Milton Berle. And they've been on the biggest shows of television in the early days. And so they'd seen people go from being unknown to being

famous. Yeah. In a short amount of time. And they saw, they'd seen how big a jerk you can become in just a miraculously short amount of time. Yeah. And they, they just, you know, it was the same look like, they just look at you going, and you knew that somehow you'd screwed up like many people screwed up before. Yeah. And it was sort of up to you to figure it out. So they were incredible teachers. Yeah. I'm sure they were the same.

They made it extremely comfortable for a jabroni like me to come through and have some fun, live out one of his childhood dreams, man. In terms of the hosts from when you were on, when you were working for SNL, who was the most memorable or the one maybe that blew you away with their ability to go from one world into the SNL, like hosting? There's only one that stands above all others. The man that, when they made the song, We Are the World, I don't know who it was, said, hey, the Statue of Liberty just walked in. And it was Ray Charles.

Oh wow. Ooh! Holy cow. Nice! Ray Charles completely buries every other entertainer I've ever met or worked with or read about. Why is that? In what way? I'm gonna make it do what it do, baby.

Ray Charles that night came on, not only did he memorize all his lines, I don't want to say Ray Charles was not using cue cards, okay? I don't want to say that. Ray Charles was not using cue cards. Ray Charles knew all his lines cold. Ray Charles came on and played solo. He played with the Raylets. He played with his septet. And he played with the Saturday Night Live Orchestra. And he may have played with his quintet as well.

And he killed and murdered every single one of them. And you know, at the end of that show, they play that song, they play the song, saxophone's playing, you're like, hey man, I had a great week, you're up there on the stage, you're waving to people. I did not wanna stand on that stage. I had no business being on the stage with Ray Charles.

That's awesome. Wow, that is so fucking cool, man. I was not gonna lie, I wasn't expecting Ray, man. That's awesome. He was the coolest, man. Well, you got the 50th season celebration coming up. You going to go back to the old Stomper Grounds? Yes, certainly.

Yeah, actually I told him I'd like to host one this year. So maybe if I get organized. I think I did it two other times then when I was there. So I'd like to try it one more time. It might be the last time to try it. When you go back, do you have like skits that you would have in mind? When I go back, the guys down at the desk say,

do you have a photo ID, sir? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha would you mind dialing this number and seeing if someone would come down and get me? I mean, we used to breeze through that place. You know, that was our glory. We owe them a hard time. And I can't get through security. I cannot get through security. They're not getting around. I love it, man. Well, hopefully we'll be able to see a host one this year. Yeah, let's transition a little bit to the movie career. We talked about some of your iconic movies earlier. We just golfed, so we got to bring up Caddy Shack. You talked about being a caddy earlier. Was your character based off somebody?

Like when you were on the course? Yeah, my character originally had one small scene in the movie. And I did have one line in the movie. I can't remember what it was exactly. But there was another Green's Keeper, a Scottish man. But they end up liking my stuff and they kept asking me to come back down and shoot more stuff So that stuff wasn't yeah, my stuff wasn't in the script. No, that is There that you get a good movie this guy

Well, I was having fun, you know, and I had the spirit of it, you know, I was a caddy too So and I've been a greenskeeper. I'd actually been a greenskeeper as well. So I had that thing Nails crude and glute, you know, I could come in and Empower keep those positions keeping the lawn you're keeping the lawn in the back looking nice and tight just just Take a few wedges back there. No, no, no, no mine mine. Mine is a waste area No, no, no, no. Mine is a waste area. Did you realize at the time that that movie would be the icon that it ended up becoming? Even before? No, back then you were just doing it to have fun. You didn't think about...

Gosh. You were just having the most fun, you know, and that was a crazy... that was a bunch of really, really funny people in one place. That was a dangerous that was a bunch of really really funny people in one place That was that was a dangerous group of funny people. We you know, we lost some people on that movie There's some people that tried to compete on that movie and just look there they go downstream There was that was you know, think about who those characters were, you know, absolutely Ted Knight and Rodney Chevy and Chevy cool, man. It was a great bunch of characters.

It was really Brian. I forget most everybody, Michael. But it was a nice bunch. We talked about this out on the course and earlier. Kingpin is a... Lane Johnson and I would just rave about that movie and quote Erma Cracken. Is Erma Cracken the best movie villain

of all time, potentially? Well, he says some of the cruelest things. I mean, just like talk about just a bad guy. Oh, just a you. Yeah. Not yet. Not yet. That's I had to change hats here. This is the caveman. This is this visual logo of the of the design team, the the builders and grinders.

Yeah, that was a cruel. The cruelest thing I ever said professionally. We're doing a scene. We're in a coffee shop scene. And I'm just playing this total creep. And I think I'm stealing bags of sugar at the time. But I look over at some women at the next table and I say, hey, how are you? And one of the ladies, they were just like day players.

They didn't have lights. She said, I'm OK. I said, no, not you. Not you. You. You. And it was just the meanest, meanest thing I could do. And there was this silence that was so, so horrible.

It was so horrible. And the director, the fairies, they just let it go. They just let this horrible thing just sink in. And finally, after about 99 seconds, they said, God. And I had to like go get on my knees in front of this woman saying, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. I'm just playing a horrible person. You're very, very beautiful.

You're very beautiful. If I didn't have to work right now, we'd leave, you know? We'd leave. It was so horrible. I was just like, oh God, please say cut so I can get this apology over with. It was so horrible. I was just like, oh God, please say cut so I can get this apology over with. It was so bad. I gotta know how this movie came about, man. Did you know exactly the character and how to portray him or did you kind of just fall

into it? I kind of, well, they've certainly, I mean, the Fairleys wrote a really pretty great sketch of it. But to their credit, they kept saying, and I can pimp them now because they it's it worked, but they would say, how about if you say this? And it would be I'd say, let me try something. And then because they would, they'd sort of throw one up there on the wall, they were throwing spaghetti on the wall all the time. Yeah. But it made you always think more like, okay, no, is the opposite of improv but yes and yeah yeah yeah

that idea but something so it made it just really fun and it just kept getting better and and the more they said they would suggest ridiculous things you go okay I'll go I got that I got that area but how about if I knock down a five iron instead? It was sort of like that. It was sort of like, yeah, I know where you're going here, but let me see what I can do. It seems like you're a natural athlete. Were you always a bowler as well? Yeah, I'm a natural athlete. Just a natural.

We saw that today. Yeah, actually, I'm very proud of that. All those strikes I rolled, I rolled those live. I rolled all those strikes live. Did you nail those last three consecutive? Every single one. I rolled every one rolled those live I wrote all those strikes why did you nail those last three every one I rolled that last frame I rolled them live against Roy that's awesome and I nailed them all they couldn't you know cuz all they're thinking is how many takes is this gonna take yeah yeah so every single one I rolled with the perfect every single one I rolled I rolled a strike that was my that may have been an athletic peak for me, I gotta think.

That was pretty good. Of course, their editing of that movie, what's that song, who was with us? Well, Showdown, it's like a ELO, is it Showdown? The music of that, that pull-off thing, and the hair thing. The hair thing was a really good thing too. That was also a good story.

You nailed that, I mean, oh my, yeah! Yeah! I send those memes and that little short video out to everyone when I'm just feeling unstoppable. The turn and the character, dude, it is fucking gold. So good. When I get my special Oscar, when they wheel me out, that's the footage I want. I want it.

Right here. Right here. So good. Yeah, that was, and I like to say the first day at work in the makeup trailer, I'm next to Woody Harrelson. I go like, Woody, what are you going to do with your hair? He said, I'm going with the comb over. And I said, me too. My comb over guy was the comb over guy. Yeah, nice.

That's so cool, man. We both had some pretty funny comb overs in that one. That was some great hair scenes. I had to go to I had to I knew I didn't see the movie and I and I only really saw. I only really saw what I shot. I didn't see like all this other stuff that they'd done. Oh, yeah. Like the landlord stuff with the lady. Oh my gosh.

Which is so gruesome. It's so horrible. Shaday. I'm gonna send you a VCR. Mr. Mutsy night. Oh. And this stuff was so rough and so raw. And I took my son Luke to it and he was 10.

And I never, I didn't see a lot of this stuff. And there was stuff. Oh my God. There was stuff. Oh my. And there was stuff that was in the movie that when we were doing it, I said, no, no, no, you can't use that. No, no, no, just say it. We're not going to use it. I'm like, no, no, you're not going to say that. And they cheated and they cut things together that were inappropriate. Selfishly, I thank them. I was so stunned. We walked in silence.

I'm walking with my 10-year-old son. We walked in silence about two and a half blocks to a parking garage to get to the car. I hadn't said a word and he said, you were good, Dad. Did he ask any questions about the delivery toll at all? That wasn't obviously your fault. You were good, Dad. Darrell Bock Classic, man. Marshall S. Larson You know what the Bible says about forgiveness? It's against it. Darrell Bock Which time?

Marshall S. Larson Oh, it's against it? Okay. You mean the eye for an eye thing or the other thing? Darrell Bock Yeah. Speaking of people that you've worked with, we talked about, you know, your favorite on SNL, movie. Marshall S. Larson That is just... Darrell Bock Yeah, right. Who's your favorite, I don't know, actor favorite on SNL. That is movie. Movie. Yeah, right. Yeah. Who's your favorite? I don't know, actor or person you've worked with in the film industry. You did Space Jam with Michael Jordan.

Well, he was probably the best shooting guard that I worked with. Larry the best small forward. And actually, Larry was the best, he was in that movie too, he was the best small forward. That was fun, that was a very fun movie. We shot, we played golf in between scenes, it was a lot of fun. I don't want to get too much into Space Jam, but it is one of the childhood favorites of ours and so many others man. How did how did space jam come into play for you? Were you just like because you were so in the sports world as well like

your fandom and your your ability to kind of dive into all these sports that that play into Getting the roller so I knew Ivan Reitman who I'd made a couple of movies with already Ghostbusters and Stripes and Meatballs. He was a producer on it. It was a Warner Brothers movie I think and they had to build a basketball court for Michael on the lot and they built like a serious basketball court with a weight room. Yeah and it was like the game. Like if you were an American basketball player, you had to suck your way into that that game every night and Michael would play after work when they were on

location or on the set on in a studio and it was like a real serious wood floor gym and the whole deal and that was a real like every if you no matter what team you played for you had to get into that game And that was a real, like every, no matter what team you played for, you had to get into that game because that was who was who and who wasn't. That's so cool. But they, I don't know, I just like to say that about nine people said, you know,

Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam, which is like, I get a kick out saying this all the time. I like to pimp Michael all the time when I can, but Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. And all you have to do is not. That's all you gotta do is not. Because it just means, you know, Michael really wants to be in Space Jam and all you have to do is not Because it just means you know, I bet you Mike can find my phone number

I bet you if he sets his mind to it, he could find my phone Or he could find out where I live for even you know walk up on the street That's's not a hard but basically that I know there are people like that in the world and you'll meet them that they're they feel like they never want to be indebted to anybody for anything. They don't want to know anybody anything so they'll have their people sort of ask something. Have you ever noticed this? Yes, of course. So they'll have someone else ask for you. Yeah so I knew exactly day one I knew exactly what was coming here. I heard it from everybody. I probably heard it from like 13 different people.

And the more people, the more I enjoyed it because I knew it was like, that son of a bitch is just twisting, knowing he's got to ask me himself. But it was good. He finally did, God bless him. And it turns out... He gets out of the golf course? Where did he find you? I don't really remember. I don't really remember, but it was good. Finally he did, God bless him. And it turns out- Did he get down to the golf course? Where'd he find you? Out in the downtown or? I don't really remember. I don't really remember, but it was good.

I was glad I was there and I contributed to that movie. You had to have gotten in at least one of the games. Oh no, no, I mean, I don't think, I mean, have you just only shot a basket before the game? That game was like, I mean, they were emptying prisons to get into that game. They would never be allowed to play in the NBA. They were playing in that game.

There were just some amazing athletes in that game. And like the best high school players that try to show up there and they just, Michael just kicked their ass. He just, people would come in there and think that they had game and Michael just murdered him. He was a killer you just you just don't have like Stories are like a legend like that anymore. Like everything is just so

social media forward that like stuff like that just gets posted and the story of it the legend of it never like rides anymore and I just love stuff like that like like stories of dr Dr. J playing on the on the playground or stories of Michael Jordan having these like basketball gyms everywhere he goes so they can stay on top of his game while he's working, man. And it was never a thing like Michael Jordan called up someone said, Hey, I'm having a basketball game. It was the same deal. It's like, Michael Jordan is having a game. And then the P and it was not like any one at all was invited. And you could tell that no one was

invited. You could tell that like Reggie Miller wasn't invited sort of, but he was, he had to be there. He was Reggie Miller. He's like, wait a minute, I'm the best shooter. I got it. All these guys. It wasn't like, like Michael was particularly friendly towards anybody. You know, it was like, I'm going to kill you. It was. It was fun. It was interesting. It was like a line out the door at Warner Brothers with just NBA stars, just with their gym bag. Just waiting to say, you said, 9 p.m. Every, you know, like all of UCLA, Southern Cal, every historic guy was there thinking

that they could still play. There was a grimness about it. You know, you see that that like that dream team doc, where all of a sudden it gets real serious? Well, it was like that, where you go like, oh my God, there wasn't exactly blood, and there wasn't exactly fighting, but it was... I would assume that Michael set the tone for that

because when you watch the last dance and you watch the dream team and you hear his competitive nature, you know, you would assume that he he definitely set that tone when everybody walked in that in that gym that this is for I mean, like we're better worth it for killers are like guys that love to compete so much that they're going to get you're going to get every ounce of it tonight. Like you know, like that, that's it. It was like, don't ever play golf with them

Don't ever play golf. I'm telling you. All right, we're gonna get to this last section. You what is this gracious? It's called we got to ask we ask you a bunch of questions There's only a couple in here, but you don't know I haven't asked. We got to ask you don't ask you Well, you can absolutely ask any questions you want. I don't know if I'm that way We'll find out after you ask me. All right, you don't have to answer you can absolutely ask any questions you want. I don't know if I'm that way. We'll find out after you ask me. All right. You don't have to answer. You can tell us to fuck off.

Please let me finish your question at least first. So we recently reviewed Roadhouse, the original Patrick Swayze film. Yes. There is a legend out there that you used to call the husband of Kelly Lynch who plays Dr. Clay anytime a Particular scene came on with Patrick Swayze on the television. Is this rumor true? One of the hardest things I ever Had to do was to call a friend. Knowing.

And at a late hour, I mean very, very late. And not without some back and forth, should should I shouldn't I should I shouldn't I And as a friend you do it I did not I did not identify myself, but I just As a friend I think she'd probably turn on TBS right now. Because that son of a bitch Pat Swayze is slamming it to your wife. I think. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Swayze, Swayze may rest in peace. There are a lot of wonderful things, a beloved guy, but that was wrong. What he did.

Dude, that's why you're the legend. God, that's why you're a legend. God, that's so good. Thank you for this gold, man. Who's wrong? What's wrong? Are we done now? Bill Murray, ladies and gentlemen! Bill, thank you so much for coming on our show.

Pissed I missed this one, man. Fuck. I'm sorry you weren't here for this, but. Yeah. You also missed out on the best energy bar I've ever been given in my life from Bill. You got some good energy? The best like in-round snack. I think I still got the pepper in my pocket. Yeah, it's street. It's you got it. What's this really?

Dude, I'm telling you right now Clacks snacks. Yeah, it's some clacks snacks. This is it's the mini version It's bar. It's Claxton fruitcake From telling it's made in class in Georgia about 20 miles. So this is an amazing People have gone to war, like in Europe over fruitcake. This is the greatest fruitcake ever made. And it's extraordinary, it's so damn good.

And we stopped there, we stopped there last two years ago on the way, they do deliver, and these guys are golfers too, which is even more wonderful. It's in the realm of and these guys are golfers too, which is even more more wonderful It's in the realm of like energy bar on the course. Well, it's a fruitcake, but it's it's the best tasting one You've ever had and I'm not you're not exaggerating by And it's just a burst of energy. These guys are gonna be thrilled. It's really good It's really good are the people paying for that space going to be very upset with how good this ad just was?

But damn it, it's a damn good fruit bar, so they deserve it. It's really good. And if you have, I have these in your golf bag is a great thing because it's like you get weaker on 14, you know, too much beer or whatever. Son, I'll take the fiver and then one of those clacks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, hey. God damn it. Thank you so much for joining us. This was awesome. Thank you, big guy. Thank you, thank you very much. Thank you very much. All right.

Okay, well enjoy that Kansas City experience. So who's gonna win the Super Bowl? Come on now. Trav thinks it's gonna be Kansas City. Who's gonna be your competition? Let me put it this way. Who's gonna be your competition in the Super Bowl? I think a little Eagles rematch.

They're getting hot at the right time. They are getting hot at the right time. They're getting hot at the right time. I think it's in the AFC, you have the Chiefs and the Bills, and then in the NFC, Detroit and Philly seem to be the top. Well, hell, I could have come up with that. You guys are supposed to be pros. So, the Lions and the Eagles.

Oh, nice word, fellas. And that wraps up another episode of New Heights. That's right. Thank you to our incredible guest, Bill Murray. Dude, this is, I think this is the outside of talking to you on a weekly basis because we obviously enjoy doing that. Yeah. I just, I can't believe that I fucking played golf today

and did a podcast episode with Bill Murray. You son of a bitch. What the fuck are we? How do we get here? You do all the fun shit in season, don't you? Well, you keep playing football. I'll keep having all the fun out here. By the way, never leave. Never grow up. Stay as long as you can. It's a little dark. Although it is pretty cool when you get to have days with Bill Murray, but Grow up, stay as long as you can. It's a little dark. Although it is pretty cool when you get to have days with Bill Murray, but I don't know that that's happening again.

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It was just teed up so well. This is a good job, intern. Ernie McCracken himself. I wanted to just rip off quotes the entire episode, but I felt like... Anytime you have an actor, but that is just kind of... He didn't want to talk about himself. That's not his vibe. Although he appreciated when you brought up some of the quotes.

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