New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Jason Survives Overtime, Travis Escapes from New York and The NFL Needs to Calm Down | Ep 57

Episode Date: October 4, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Cleo Mack. He is a game record. This is what happens. If I'm the tackle, first sack, coach, I gotta be better. I'm sorry man. Dude, I'll get it next time. I promise you I got him. What about the second one? Second sack? Fuck, this guy's really good. I don't know man. I don't know if I can do this. Third sec, I am furious. What the fuck are we doing? Why are we just letting this guy get in front of, like what are we doing coach? I'd be furious if I'm the tackle.
Starting point is 00:00:52 I would be so mad. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, presented by Waysports and Entertainment and also presented by the all-new Experience smart money debit card. Hmm the debit card that builds credit without the debt. That's so smart Why didn't it take us so long to get to this point? Experien thank you for that. Well, we are your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother Jason
Starting point is 00:01:21 New episodes drop every Wednesday during the NFL season so subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get those podcasts and follow the show on all social media platforms at new heights show with one as Jason tell the people what we got coming up. You're not going to believe this, but we got another great episode. Oh, that's right. We're going to get to our week for nail biteers. Of course, answer all of our 92% and new 92% percenters. No dumb questions. And yeah, we're going to try and figure out if the NFL
Starting point is 00:01:52 is doing maybe a little bit too much. What do you mean? Well, we'll get to it. That. But first, as always, new news coming in. I'll tell you what, I might have to jump off this new news with this beautiful blue jersey that I have on. Oh, there we go. Probably one of the, get right to it. More interesting things. I think everybody watching is probably, yeah, I don't know why you're wearing a, why I'm wearing a beautiful, a seven jersey from BYU.
Starting point is 00:02:19 That's right. Let's bring them young right there. How about this? Shout out to check. Skidding. We had a good gentleman's bet in the locker room or really in the entire facility because we got a handful of BYU guys and a couple of UC fellas.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It was even lying just about the entire week. So we just went with the winter loss. Straight up. Just straight up and sure enough, Cincinnati lost by seven. So my bet was if I lost I had to wear BYU Jersey On the show and of course if they lost they all had to drink a beer with me. Oh wow But I did bet I was like you got to come to a Vegas pool party with me at least but they will go to that they would go to that
Starting point is 00:03:01 They were up for that. Yeah, so they're down to go to the pool bar But not to drink a beer. Yeah, no Vegas Pull bar your This bet took place on team premises no, no it did not I thought you just said when you were just talking you said No, I said that you guys made the bet there was a few people in the facility that go to be why you never said it happened in the facility because as you know betting on league facilities is strictly forbidden so that's why we didn't do it we did over text when we all were building just okay that smart that's good we all right well um well you look great in it i'm not gonna. I would say this jersey might have been worn. This might be a game worn jersey,
Starting point is 00:03:48 because you know, guys, when it's too tight on their arms, they cut the corners there, and these corners are cut. So I don't know if I just took this off a guy's back from being in the game, they threw my name on it. How did they get your name on it that quick? Those Mormons, those Mormons the stereo sways, man. Hey, well, yeah, when you don't drink or go to Vegas, people, you got a lot of time on your hand.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Way to go. Way to go. BYU. I was walking around the facility today and had a few guys mentioned that, Oh, I heard you're going to be wearing the jersey. I'm just like, Dan, that word spread quick, or chat Lewis legendary BYU guys excited about an eagle. Big time. He's saying the eagle at the tight end. Yeah, no, he mentioned it. He mentioned he said I heard you're wearing the jersey. I'm just like, they're making you got to see it big. I'll wear it with pride. I'll wear it with pride. Shout out to BYU for getting the dub. Cincinnati, let's go, baby. Come on. Let's get back on the train, baby.
Starting point is 00:04:41 You see you got to be why you jersey and an Andy Reed mustache. This is quite the scene. All right. Let's get to the other new news. New Heights is officially the number one podcast on Apple Spotify. I think just about every podcast network at this point. That's crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:05:00 We are officially on the map. Both Travis and I have officially the put on the map. Just when and I have officially put on the map. Just when you think you are skating away from it. We have also reached one million followers on our Instagram account. Damn. Thank you to everyone who tuned in to our regular episode and our stone cold Jones special guest episode last week. All of the 92%ers, the new 92%ers. Yeah, nothing out of the ordinary from week three.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So can't really explain why the the boost in viewership. But we appreciate all you guys tuning in. Appreciate you guys. Do we have any favorite moments from the Chris Jones episode? Draft. I mean, I just, yeah, me getting called Malibu's most wanted might be the, the funniest shit. I've heard in a long time.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And then somebody put in the comments I saw from one of the 90th percent of the rave. So why we love the 90th. Instead of be rad, it was T-Rav. I think that might be the new nickname. T-Rav! Don't be Hayden. Don't be Hayden. Yeah. You got to love the Tyree Hill hating. Don't be hating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 You got to love the Tyree Hill trash talk, though, man. That's always fun. Tyree, actually, what did he do? He responded with the, um, um, 195 now. I got that South Beach weight now. After Chris Jones was talking about, he's just too light. Then he weighs 140 pounds. He got a little man syndrome.
Starting point is 00:06:25 That I'll tell you what man, be down there and South Florida, man, you train down there and the weight is coming off. Yeah, it's definitely good. There's no running for men. It's gonna affect you. Who do I do? Who's your favorite part?
Starting point is 00:06:36 My favorite part was the whole thing. It was hilarious, Chris is hilarious. You know, I've never really talked in depth with Chris that much. I've only really talked to him after games. So to get to know him as personality, see how funny he is, really, really enjoyed just talking to him. The 40 story, obviously, I think stole the show. Well, let's keep this day moving and get the fan mentions of the week. All right, now this is something you've all been commenting on for the past few weeks and it's
Starting point is 00:07:06 It's about time we finally addressed it Jason. What's up? What the fuck is going on with your microphone dog Do you try and wash that and it like just gets all the lint and the hairballs on it or is it just the filthy thing ever? Yeah, we have a lot of comments Talking about how you just have lint and dirt all over your shit. Look at you. You didn't even pull the right thing off. That's disgusting. From Mr. Crawford 87, is anyone else wanting to clean the wind screen cover on Jason's
Starting point is 00:07:37 microphone? First of all, I had no idea. That's what these things are fucking called. Is that what this is? Yeah, a wind screen cover. I guess it's supposed to block the wind. I mean, let me tell you this. If you think this is dirt,, a wind screen cover. I guess it's supposed to block the wind. I mean, let me tell you this. If you think this is dirt, you should see the rest of my house. But yeah, obviously I haven't talked to
Starting point is 00:07:50 the documentary. If you think this is bad, because I got some dirt in there. Okay, I think I got I think I got just about everything. I don't know if there's something wrong with my screen, but you did definitely did not get that. I think I got it all. Everything. Yeah, I got it. How to boy. Good for you, man. If you guys think this is bad, you should have seen our dorm room when we lived together at Cincinnati. It was. Oh my god. I think when we were moving out, we fruit like legitimately found a full pizza box under one of the beds that still had pizza in it. legitimately found a full pizza box under one of the beds that still had pizza in it
Starting point is 00:08:28 But not mistaken and it wasn't my bed. I'm just gonna say wasn't my Must have been mine cuz I was gonna fuck I was I was getting a shout out day. I'm like every fucking day everybody talks about skyline chilly They don't know that's about it from Cincinnati right scat but hey cold star. Yeah, sorry I'm gonna eat that you know Cincinnati chilly. Did you some of the day? Gerard goes bear cat pizza. He'll enjoy it. Oh, man, it doesn't get any fucking better than that. All right I'll tell you what man. I remember that my bed smelled like tequila for
Starting point is 00:08:59 Why would that happen? Why would that happen? Why would that happen? Well, because they was a random bottle of Jose Querva gold sitting in the living room warm, I should say. And it was my 21st. It was my 21st birthday. It was, there was a Wednesday or Thursday night during the season, so we knew we had practice in the morning. For sure. I practiced the next day.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So I was like, I don't wanna go out tonight. I'm gonna wait till the end of practice on Friday and then go celebrate my birthday on Friday and Share enough turning 21 Jason wanted to make sure that alcohol was, you know forced Upon me it's a good brother so him and loads of three other linemen It was yeah, it was just about the entire house which is offensive and defensive linemen and Zach Lares our quarterback shot Everybody in that house. 127 West Nixon. Great house. There's a great house, but this was not a fun memory for me. They pinned me down.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Arms. You didn't like this? Arms legs. I'm sleeping, by the way, people. I'm sleeping. You were trying to not sleep in this. Again, Clark strikes midnight and here come the calvary. Just come in. Just pinned me down. me down arms one 300 pound man on each arm One 300 pound man on each leg and Jason comes in it says open up I ain't doing it you guys are broke. Mm-hmm I'm not doing it and then pinches the nose So I have to I have to breathe out of my mouth classic big brother move right there This shit's a fucking movie and pours the entire bottle
Starting point is 00:10:27 of Jose Cuervo. It was not the whole bottle. Don't be dramatic. It was the entire fucking bottle to the point where I cough up the tequila after one gulp. There was not. It goes through my nose into my eyes and all over my fucking bed.
Starting point is 00:10:43 So not only did he ruin my night asleep, but for the rest of that fucking, like really the rest of that season, my bed had like a little bit of, like just a teeny bit of just scent of tequila at all times. So every time I went to sleep, I was reminded that I was 21 now. Yeah. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:11:03 You woke up sucker. You went well-puck-sucker. You went to university as an Eddie, not BYU, would you expect? Fuck yeah, I wish I would have went there. Go kooks, man. You only turned 21 one time. Don't be plenty of practice. Yeah, who ruined your 21st birthday, Jason? I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I remember I did a shot. I remember I did a four horseman shot. My first four horseman ever when I was 21, I think. Give the people some understanding. What's a what's a four horseman shot? I believe it's Jim, Johnny, Jack, and it might be Jose. I don't know, but I thought it was, it's either all four whiskies.
Starting point is 00:11:42 To fucking train, Rick. It's terrible. It's the most disgusting shot in the world that I've ever had. I'm not gonna lie. No desire to ever do that. Yeah. Thank you for that Jason. I've enjoyed Tequila ever since. Oh perfect. I'm glad that um we started you off on the 21st birthday. Yeah. I was a vodka guy before that. Let's get to some no- questions. All right, now brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings. That's right. Let's go sports, bar.
Starting point is 00:12:08 That's right. I figured out that you can chant no dumb questions. There's a lot of things you can do in that. Just dumb people. Yeah, so it's a fun little jingle you can kind of put on anything, but let's get to it. All right. Obviously we have some new fans, which has led to an increase in a new type of not dumb question. Who is introduced this to a whole bunch of new dummies, which is a lot of intro level
Starting point is 00:12:40 football questions. Let's get to the first one. Let's get a good one here, man. What is this? New fan at Pearl Bramnic 4300. Pearl, to Pearl is a good name. That's a whole school. That's a Southern ass fucking name too. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:55 That is like, she's, yeah, she's probably like 75. All right. Pearl, a swifty here. Not gonna lie. I learned more in like five minutes of No-Dum questions than I have from watching my husband watch football for years and having him half explain things to me as we go.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Thanks guys. This whole time I thought we weren't making any sense at all. Yeah, that's not a question. That's just a statement and glad we could be of some help, Perl. Yeah. There were a lot of comments. I'm like, how can people ask these questions? Listen, I'm all about expanding football's audience. This is why we're here. Yeah. Come on in. Questions. Join the game. Ask away. Ask the way we won't call you dumb if you ask
Starting point is 00:13:40 a no dumb question. So that wasn't a question. I've read this wrong. I guess that was just a comment. I guess Pearls wasn't a question. I've read this wrong. I guess that was just a comment. I guess Pearls wasn't a question I fucked that up. All right, whatever. First no dumb question is from Laura like a dumbass Chicago N1 and N2 Heart blue heart. Okay. Yeah. One who is drunk? Two why does Travis do the archer pose when he enters the stadium? Three can you please explain one verse two point conversions and why teams choose to do one over the other? I never know what is going on.
Starting point is 00:14:13 All right, we got you, Laura. All right, one, Gronk. Who is Gronk? Gronk is the keeper of the turf. It's an every field has somebody who is in charge of maintenance of the turf. And that is known as the Gronk of the turf. It's on every field has somebody who is in charge of maintenance of the turf and That is known as the grog of that field. He's such a He just bladley lied to you. He's fucking he's playing the fiddle right now. Yeah, Rob Grandkowski is
Starting point is 00:14:37 known as one of the greatest football players of all time. Oh, one of you're just gonna say one of I was wondering Where are you gonna go with it? I say greatest football players of all time. Oh of you're just going to say one of. I was wondering where you're going to go with it. I say greatest football players of all time. Oh, you did say that. Yeah. I didn't say anything about tight end, which was the position that he played that he was extremely good at arguably the best ever do it. When his guard who is wrong? Grunk is, uh, he's like the most dominant force. Well, start with his name. Rock is your most for Rob Grunkowski. There you go. All right. I see you getting good at this whole like you down, man. This guy's good, man.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Is the tight end played for the Patriots, Bucky New Year? Is there anybody else? Yeah. One four Super Bowls. Got a list of accolades that, yeah, we'll get him a first ballot, Hall of Fame. One of the most unstoppable fours.
Starting point is 00:15:22 So I think Travis was on to something when he was getting to that. I mean, blocking, defending. You know, he was just one of the most unstoppable forces, I think Travis was on to something when he was getting to that. I mean, blocking, defending, he was just one of the most unstoppable players of all time. And when you become that unstoppable, they just shorten your name because they get tired of saying ground kowalski, ground kowalski, ground kowalski, ground kowalski, is like, no, that's just ground. That's ground. That's ground, baby. And then other people try and steal it. You know, where, you know, Travis is now, what has been known as Baby Grunk. No, I'm fake grunk. Baby Grunk's a whole different, that's a cute, nested in the other.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Travis has been known as fake grunk. Now there is Baby Grunk, which that's a whole nother issue. Fake Grunk head ass as a Von Miller would say. As Von Miller said, our good friend Von Miller. That's my dog. If you guys want to know more about Grunk, just go ahead and watch our episode
Starting point is 00:16:00 that we had with Rob Gantowski. Yeah, and you'll get to know him. Don't know why we didn't think of that right away. Yeah, exactly. You'll know exactly who Gronk is. I guess I have to answer the second part of this question. I do the archer pose when I entered the stadium because I always wanted to do something when I when I ran out of the tunnel. And I'm like, man, you know what's really been motivating for me is to always, you know, dream big. Always shoot for the stars stars so I'm just out there Shooting up for the stars baby. I am one of my favorite quotes from my guy Deon Sanders prime time He says if we are if your dreams aren't bigger than you then there's a problem with your dreams
Starting point is 00:16:35 So don't forget to shoot for the stars ladies and gentlemen and number three Up on the spotter is that really why you do the archipos? No, it's really why I do the archipos. You've put that much thought into it. I just thought you thought it was something cool. Yeah, you think I just wear number 87 or just because? Well, I know that it's not because of the reason you've given people. Who I do think it is, then?
Starting point is 00:16:55 I think you just got given the jersey and you just wear 87 trips. And you found out that you're doing it. No, Jason, that's what happens to offensive linemen. Jason, that's skill guys, we get the pick I just say. You get the pick it. Yeah. So one verse two point conversions.
Starting point is 00:17:08 This is the real, I guess, not dumb question. Looking forward to answering. Why do teams choose one or the other? So typically a one point conversion, Laura, is a extra point try where you're kicking a field goal now from the, what is it? The 15 or something like that? I believe the 25. Is it the 25?
Starting point is 00:17:28 I don't fucking know. That's a great question, man. I think it's 15 for some reason. Yeah, he's like at this, but yeah. Yeah, the one point conversion is an easy chip shot field goal for the field goal kicker, typically a very, very high percentage chance of getting an extra point. We're talking above 95% likelihood that this thing's going through the upper edge.
Starting point is 00:17:49 So we're going to get seven points instead of six. But a two-point conversion is essentially, you get the ball after you score with one attempt to get the ball in the end zone. You can either run it in or throw it in. If you don't get it, you get no points. If you get it, you get two extra points. Typically from the two yard line,
Starting point is 00:18:07 unless there's a penalty, then you get it at the one you're in line. Yeah, depending on the defense that is, but yeah. That was pretty good. I mean, I understood it. So my head was kind of, it was going, kind of got off track a little bit there, but I ain't going, I ain't going.
Starting point is 00:18:20 That was pretty good, but. Yeah, I could have got more direct with it, probably. From Oh My! Love is a lie, indie, and too. That's a long, long hand. Yeah. You can just throw the old name on there. Can you explain why analysts say that a running back is running downhill?
Starting point is 00:18:38 Oh, I mean, yeah. Have you ever seen anybody run downhill? Have you ever watched Isaiah Pacheco? Yeah. Have you ever seen anybody literally run downhill? you ever watched Isaiah Piceco? Yeah. You've ever seen anybody literally run downhill? They look like they're running faster, they're running with a purpose. There's also a physicality that kind of comes with running
Starting point is 00:18:54 downhill that you like to see. Like if you just watch Isaiah Piceco run, he runs downhill. He runs like a locomotive. I mean, it's like a pistonons fire and type run to him, but it's fucking Tasmanian devil man. Who is the most downhill running back of all time? So, downhill running back is a guy who builds up momentum as he's running the ball and it typically turns into like almost like an unstoppable force, the more momentum that it builds up right away. I think of.
Starting point is 00:19:29 My favorite running back growing up, shout out to the bus drone. Drone bettis. Yeah, the bus. Another guy I think of would be Larry Zonka. I feel like when he was very similar, when he got moving, he just kind of was bouncing people off of him. I've only seen highlights. So yeah, I would say Jim Brown could be one at times, but I feel like he was two, he had too much of the shiftingness at the same time. He had Thunder and Lightning. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:52 Jim Brown had it all. He had it all, so I think he was more under control. Like running down hills, the runner backs are gonna fall on his face if somebody doesn't try and tackle him. The one I think of right now is Derek Henry. Oh. In our game today, I mean, the guy, he's a lot of inside zone, outside zone.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I got to hear him before you get him. Yeah. Yeah. You get hit. He gets his legs moving, get some momentum going downhill. Oh, baby. That's a big man to try and break down. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:20:18 All righty. Good question. Good question. Great question. I actually enjoyed talking about it. Good for Abrams. Oh, you got it. I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:20:24 What is a sack? I need help. Well, a sack is when a lot of types of sacks. If we're talking about football sacks. Yeah, when we're talking about football sacks is when the quarterback gets tackled behind the line of scrimmage. That's uh, that's it. But um, why is it called a sack? Sack loss. I don't know. You wrapped him up like a you wrapped him up in a sack. Yeah, what is the root of this term sack for football? Oh, here we go. Thanks in term Brandon. Thanks Brandon. The term sack was first popularized in the 1960s by Hall of Fame defensive and Deakin Jones. Deakin Jones, who felt that a quarterback being sack devastated the offense in the same way that a city was devastated
Starting point is 00:21:05 when it was sacked. He was referencing a time where villages were ransacked, I believe. Jones provided the LA Times reporter with some other detailed imagery about his forte. You take all the offense alignment and put them in a burlap bag and then you take a baseball bat and you beat on the bag. You're sacking them. You're bragging them and that's what you're doing with the quarterback. I Kind of like the first. I was kind of disturbing. I'm not gonna lie. Um, that was a little bit like Sir, you little fucking this guy. I like the first gladiator days man when football was fucking football Well, good deacon is right. right. Be the fuck out of people.
Starting point is 00:21:45 The sex are devastating to drives. They're devastating to offenses, a loss and a loss of downs is a huge play for the defense, which is why they are so coveted and defense allow me to get paid so much. And boy, did we see a few sacks on Monday night? Oh, we're going to get to it. Oh, baby. Pretty crazy. That was a good, I'm question that we had to have answered. Thank you, insert and Brandon. Yeah. And good for
Starting point is 00:22:08 even asking. Just starving. But thank you. And shout out to Deacon Jones. Alrighty. Last dumb question from At Beth and Ham. What is the little fan effects thing for on some players? Saw one on Patrick on Sunday and Jason on Monday. That my friends is called a handworm. Yeah, just a handworm. Just called a handworm. Yeah, it's just a handworm. Just keep your handworm. Or if it's raining outside, it keeps your hand dry. I typically never use handwormers to keep my hands warm. It's usually just to keep them dry.
Starting point is 00:22:34 That's all I care about. I don't wear them because I've gotten like held by them and like kind of like it just... Tackle by them. Not necessarily tackled by them, but they'll definitely slow you down. Yeah. They're supposed to have velcro on them,
Starting point is 00:22:49 so they're supposed to just rip off. If somebody tries to tackle you by it, but it's still got a little tug to it. If you, you know what I mean? If you're not like just absolutely hanging on by it. So I just... Don't want to wear it if sauce gardeners garden you. Yeah, well, you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Ah! Ah! Shout out to sauce. That boy was, we got, I don't know about that. I'm gonna be more discreet. I'm gonna be more discreet. I gotta be more discreet.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And that was no dumb questions. We answered it fully, right? Yeah, it's a hand warmer. That's it, right? You usually keep your hand warmer dry. And if you just wear one, you're wearing it because it's an accessory. Yeah, or yeah, or it's a hand warmer. That's it, right? Usually keeps your hand warmer dry. And if you just wear one, you're wearing it because it's an accessory. Yeah, or yeah, or it's just cool. Could you actually wear an actual Fanny Pack in a game?
Starting point is 00:23:32 I mean, yeah, it depends on what you put in there, but I don't think there's anything against it. Like, what else could you put in there that would be? Nothing. Are we starting a new trend? No. I might wear a Fanny pack to the next game. What the fuck?
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Starting point is 00:25:25 I really like Tyreek against the Giants. And to be honest, I kind of want to throw in Justin Jefferson for a touchdown as well. But that's just me, I don't know what I'm talking about. You got lots of options. You got past touchdowns, rushing touchdowns. You can even take field goals if you're some kind of degenerate.
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Starting point is 00:27:06 Eagles 34 Commanders 31 little overtime thriller the division games man those fucking those games are fucking real deal every fucking time You know a little free football. Yeah, that was uh, it was wild man initial thoughts man Yeah, I mean obviously like you said in division games are tough. There's a lot of knowledge and familiarity with the team you're playing. We played against a lot of those guys, especially guys I was going to get Jonathan Allen and Drone Pain. We've had a lot of matchups against each other. You're playing against a team that fully knows what you do well, what you don't do well, how they can attack you and it's always going to be
Starting point is 00:27:40 interesting and it always it also means more. You know, the division games are gonna have more implications, come playoff time. So, you know, everything kind of starts with trying to win your division in this league. Commander's got the better of us last time. We played him. We had four turnovers I think in that game. Not a highlight for us last year,
Starting point is 00:27:59 but, you know, got to get him this week at home. And took us in overtime, but we got it done. Yeah. No, man, I, um, shout out to the commanders, man, that's a, that's a hungry football team right there, man. Those guys fight, um, and I personally have an absolute blast watching their offense, knowing that, uh, Eric B. Enemy, he B one of my favorite coaches of all time is he's at the helm
Starting point is 00:28:27 of everything they do offensively over there. And it's fun. I kind of like play the guessing game on what they're going to do and what plays they're going to run because they run a lot of the plays that we ran last year or have ran still to this day. But it's fun, man. It's fun watching that team go.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And my guy Logan Thomas had a few big catches, big tough, some tough catches down on the red zone, getting back from being out for a few weeks. So shout out to Logan for coming down, representing the tight end room the right way. But I'll tell you what, man, that, that commander's team fights, man. And that's one thing that I've always I've always thought eb be enemy brings to the table is just a whole lot of toughness man. Yeah. And it just trickles down you can't go through practice and through a training camp and be underneath his coaching without having just a little bit more grit to you man. It's just how he how he goes about his business. Yeah you guys you guys were down seven and a half.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Is there anything there, was there anything like that you guys did a half time to really flip the switch? No, I mean, I think we got in a better rhythm in the second half. I mean, we only had four possessions in the first half. Damn! They did a good job. The opening drive, I think, was like an eight minute
Starting point is 00:29:39 it felt like drive to start the game off for the commander. So, you know, we had three legitimate drives and one two minute drive and we scored 10 points, but yeah, they controlled the clock and the ball for a lot of the first half. And we finally started catching our groove there in the second half. Guys, put up, what is it, 14 unanswered.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And then going into the fourth quarter, as the commander started to kind of make their comeback. Brian Robinson, a huge 15-yard touchdown to tie it up, 24-24, and back with the ball with 320 left in the game. That's when it kind of got interesting. There's a lot of controversy on whether or not you guys go for the touchdown or just try and run the clock out there, but you guys ended up going for the TD. And it wasn't, it was a design touchdown call too, you know what I mean? It was, yeah, I ended up going for the TD and it wasn't, it was a design touchdown call to you know, I mean, it was, yeah, it was definitely a shot play. 100%. It was right at that point in the game where it's kind of like, so we're second and
Starting point is 00:30:33 four with a minute and forty three left in the game, apparently. Yeah. Commanders had one time out. I think it's right on that cusp of like, do we alter what we're doing? Because basically if you run it twice and you don't get the first down you're looking at kicking a field goal and You're probably giving the commanders the ball with right around a minute left in the game Which in my opinion is a lot of time to try and get a field goal to tie the game again, or potentially win it with a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:31:06 So I think that's one of those things where it's probably, I don't know what the analytics would say to be honest with you. I feel a lot more comfortable scoring seven points. If I could score seven points late in the game like that and go up a touchdown, I think I'm taking that over a bit. There's definitely a, yeah, go ahead. No, I'm with you. I think at the end of the day, I think a mistake that a lot of teams make in two-minute situations
Starting point is 00:31:30 is that they become passive too quickly, whether it's defense or offense. You go into the situational calls that kind of handcuff and make you predictable. And hey, this game's tied. Let's just, until we know for sure that we can run the clock down and kick a field goal to win it or give them minimal, minimal time left. Let's just operate our offense and let's try and score points because that's the biggest thing
Starting point is 00:31:56 that we need to do on this drive. Obviously, Jaylin and AJ connected for a long score. I think we were on like the 25 yard line somewhere around there, 28, something like that. AJ made an unbelievable play, super fired up, kind of got tangled up after the play. Might have, you know, got a personal, he did get a personal foul. And that certainly made Washington's job a lot easier on the ensuing drive, but hard to get after a guy after he scores a lot that's down and gives you the lead. Gotta keep our composure, but I feel them though. Those two were John back and forth all games. So dude, it was all game and you could tell you just gotta keep your composure knowing the knowing the situation in hand. You just embarrassed them by the by the play you just made. Yep. You know, got to rub it in. I'm with feels it. Trust me. He feels it. He knows. He knows.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But yeah, you know, as soon as we scored, I think everybody's like, okay, they got a lot of time. Our defense is going to have to come out here and get it done. And that's a good lead to give a good defense though. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. I mean, you're up a touch. So front, they got to throw it. We know our defense align is stacked. And whenever you have a great deal line, it's daunting for an offensive line, going to do a two minute, but the commanders, same how I mean, dude, he played great? You really did. Coming off of a game where I think you threw like four interceptions maybe last game, you know, he did not do that in this game. He played lights out. Coming back, they score again. Now, back to the one point two point conversion. Now don't question. This is the other thing that's being brought up from the game, which is,
Starting point is 00:33:23 you know, should Riverboat Ron have gone with 2 point conversion to town I don't know. I this is always one of those words damned if you do damned if you don't yeah I'll tell you what man. You're the coach. I'm going for it. I'm going for it. I play yeah my play calls are all like I'm playing Madden anyways So I'm going I go for it. I'm forced down. Yeah. I'm forth and 10 in my own fucking 20 yard line. I'm probably going for it. I say this. We scored. We dug Peterson's first year here. We're playing the Baltimore Ravens. We go down, score, touchdown right at the end of the game. Same exact situation. Go for it.
Starting point is 00:34:03 All of a sudden two point wins it, one point ties it. We go for two and we lost it. So I'm kind of in favor of going over time after that. I think a lot of it depends on the situation of the game. How good is their red dome defense been? How confident do you feel about your two point plays? You got a good play. If you got a good play, have you already run that good play? Because usually in a game, you go in with one maybe two two point plays, right? Like you usually in a game, you go in with one maybe two two point plays, right? Like you're like, you don't go in with a bunch on the call sheet. So, you know, maybe they were maybe maybe EB wasn't confident with the two point play or who knows?
Starting point is 00:34:37 Shout out to the DAPs got Duggy P's got like one of the most legendary like two point conversion like stats and fourth down conversion stats of all time. I mean, how many times he goes for it and how many times he gets it. So that was just the one, that was just the one time that it didn't play out for him. Should be Riverboat Doug. All right now. What's a good one? It was a good one for Doug. Double down Doug. Double down Doug. I like that, that's good. Either way, obviously the commanders like to go for one point and we get a little bit of free football, free football, little overtime football.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Commanders got it, man. They won the toss. That's a huge part of playing, fucking overtime football is winning that toss, but they go three and out. Every time I've seen the coin that has been flipped, the coin that they switched to The coin that they decided to say and the reason no the reason I know The reason I remember this coin is because on one side of the coin. It's a jersey with the number 62 in every time that coin has been flipped tail. It's landed 62 And I think that's tails. I forget whether that's tails or head But every time that coin has been flipped, 62 has been face up. So immediately when they called it, I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:48 fuck, and they got it. That's it, that coin, that coin, it just always goes tail up. So the commanders, they go three and out. And during the next drive, fourth and one, what is Cereani called? The most unstoppable play in the game organized mass 92% baby.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Comes in clutch once again. You guys convert the first and then go down through the fucking uprights earlier in the game. You guys actually get called for off sides on a sneak. Yeah. Dickerson was just he was he was level with you. I don't think he was a head of you. I just think he was level with you and they were like, yeah, nah. Well, I think that actually you might have screwed this up. I'll be interested to see what Ferrari says. So we got warned about this in the week.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You know, defensive players have been lined up in the neutral zone to try and stop the play. And that we've seen that called on opposing defensive lines. But they did send a warning that land in has been in the neutral zone and that that is against like, the only player allowed in the neutral zone is a center. So you I guess for all the Swifties and even like regular football fans, I don't know how familiar people are with the neutral zone, but the ball is a neutral zone. No offensive player or defensive player can break the plane of either side of the ball. All the offensive
Starting point is 00:37:02 players have to be behind the ball other than the center who is obviously holding the ball. All the offensive players have to be behind the ball, other than the center who is obviously holding the ball. And all of the defensive players have to be on the other side of the ball. Landon has been lining up in the neutral zone. So they warned us. That's close. He's still he's still a hair behind you. We can see it from that picture right there. The reason they called this though, they said that his hand was in the neutral zone. And you see that hand in in the neutral zone. Yeah, I also see a defensive player. Yeah, well, dude, so they were actually, the round pain was putting his hand under the ball, which that's a whole another thing. But regardless, I don't, whatever. It's, everybody's going to be jockeying
Starting point is 00:37:38 for position. I don't give a crap. Let's just run the play. Listen, man, you already know that that play is pretty unstoppable. We got to do some of you ain't cheating. You're trying. But the problem is that's not landage hand. That's my hand. What I'm getting at, I get in a four point stance on goal and sneak. That's my left hand. And they called it on landed, but landage hand is behind the ball. So I think they missed this up actually, but that's what happens when you go searching for things. That's crazy. That just looking at it from that view, though, it does look like that's your that's not happens when you go searching for things. That's crazy. That just looking at it from that view though, it does look like that's your hand. That looks like it's his hand.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah, and that's the problem when you go looking to make a call in my opinion, but whatever. They did a good job on that play. I don't know if we would have got it even without the offsides. Teams, I'll say this right now, and you're seeing it across the league, defenses are doing a much better job
Starting point is 00:38:24 at defending this play than they've done since I've been to league. There's an emphasis being made. We have always got quarterbacks in each. If I'm being honest, very easily against the commanders, the commanders came out with a much better attempt at stopping this play than they've ever had. They must have fucking hit up your, uh, who was buddy that came in the Scottish man. Uh, they don't say much. They're like, Hey, how do you stop this organized mess? and hit up your, who was buddy that came in, the Scottish man?
Starting point is 00:38:46 They don't say much. They're like, Hey, how do you stop this organized mess? Yeah, you got to unorganize it. Obviously. Genius. It's no longer the Tush push. It is officially the bar, the least shove. It's a better name.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I don't know who came up with this, but it's long overdue. That's a much better name for it. And it speaks to the team and the city that has really gotten this thing going in the NFL. So I love it. Well, just to give you guys some good numbers here, the Tush push conversions of 2023. The Eagles are 10 of 11 and 91% keeping that thing right around the like we've always said projected numbers. Right. Hey, that's within the standard deviation. Rest of the league though. Not so hot. 49 of 71. He getting us at a whopping 68%. Man. I'm telling you, teams are doing a better job this year. Yeah. I mean, deepens of teams. They have clearly, it's been on their radar. They've been talking to Scottish rugby guys. They've been figuring it out. I hope that we can stop it in November.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Back to the game-winning drive after getting the first on the sneak, you guys drive down the field and ultimately set up Jake the make Elliott for a 54-yard field goal which he nailed. He nailed. The Eagles went 34-31. Devote Smith told the reporter after the game that he calls Jake Elliott, chicken little. When it has why Devote just said, you see chicken little? That's what he looked like. That's fucked up man. Why do you call him that? Have you seen the movie? That's fucked up. Does Jake even wear glasses? He does not. Does not wear glasses.
Starting point is 00:40:30 He has a beard. Pretty much the only thing that he has in common with chicken little is that he is the skinniest and shortest guy on the roster. But got a big leg. But yeah. You think Devonte has gotten a chicken little comment before you think somebody was like you look like chicken That's probably what's in his head. He probably just is like, no, I don't really look I'm a fast little chicken little. Yeah That's too funny. All I know is that Jake Jake made the classic blunder of I'm gonna need to put an end to this shit nicknamed vetoed
Starting point is 00:41:02 Which anybody who's ever been to elementary school or middle school knows that only for the nickname, you can't fight back on the nickname. You can't fight it, man. It's just going to be more of the nickname. You got to have, you had a fun with it, man. Fuck, man. No, we can't be calling Jake, take a little out here.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I like Jake to make. I don't know if that, if, if Brandon came up with that, putting it in his front down. There's a keeps making. There's only a keeps making them. But I like that, Jake, the make, that's it as well as he keeps making. There's only a few making them, but I like that Jake the make. That's good. Final thoughts on the game. I gave him the wangerled at the end of the game. If we can get that clip on here, Brandon, I gave him the we are not worthy.
Starting point is 00:41:34 We are worthy. We are. I was trying to, I don't know why I was thinking of it, but then I remembered your pregame fit in your Instagram. I had the Wayne's World half. Maybe I was going back to New York. Man had to show us and I love man. That fit in your Instagram. I had the Wayne's World half baby. I was going back to New York. Man had to show us and I love man. That's a good shit.
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Starting point is 00:44:52 All right, and let's get to your strap. You chees 23 jets 20. We all watch this one. I mean, everybody. What? Watch this. Yeah, everybody. Sunday night football. Initial thoughts. What do you got? That's a good defense,
Starting point is 00:45:07 man. That's a damn good defense. And a very good team, too, man. When Zach Wilson is out there flying around having fun making plays, man, that stadium gets rocking. That's a home field advantage. 100%. You could feel like you were in a hostile environment when they tied that thing up. Yeah, other than that, though, I just think offense is we just got to get rolling, man. We got to get rolling consistently week to week, put things together back to back. You know, I think we had a great game against the Bears, but started off solid in the first quarter. Got to end the first half a lot better and then start the second half a lot better.
Starting point is 00:45:43 It was it wasn't the most beautiful game for us, but I'll tell you what, man, when you get put in a tough situation with like a four minute situation at the end of the game, and you find a way to run the clock out, keep the ball in your in your hands, not put the offense back out there. There are other teams offens back out there, man. That's it was a fun way to end the end and the game that is well right away. It seemed like the cameras were more interested in potentially the patrons of the game
Starting point is 00:46:09 than the people playing it. There are a lot of stars in attendance. New York, New York. I should say New Jersey, the meta-lands, baby. Most notably of the stars was Aaron Rogers. Yeah. Back in MetLife Stadium, post Achilles surgery, I'm assuming. There was a video of you and Aaron talking
Starting point is 00:46:24 during warmups on the sideline, what were you talking about? My lot, I'm assuming. There was a video of you and Aaron talking during warmups on the sideline, what were you talking about? Um, my lot that's it. 100%. I was, I just, I just, yeah, I talked about a little bit of the stash work, how powerful this thing can be. And then on top of that, just, uh,
Starting point is 00:46:36 I just wanted to go up to him. I didn't shoot him at text or anything like that. I just wanted to go up to him, tell him how excited everybody was and I'll bummed out we were that, you know, you got banged up and needed to get surgery. Watching Hard Knocks, man, it was just, it was electric to see what Aaron Rogers was going to do with that team and not to say that they're, you know, not going to be great
Starting point is 00:46:57 because he's not there, but I think that having Aaron there was going to be, you know, that much more entertaining for somebody that's a fan of the game like I am. But it's, I mean, and you just hate to see the the great ones go down with injury. That's for sure. So I just want to go up to him and tell them we were all hurt and form and hopefully he gets healthy quick. Well, it's wild that he was at the game and walking around this soon. I feel like after surgery. Yeah. I think he's fully on board with getting back.
Starting point is 00:47:28 If they can find a way to make the play out, I'm pretty sure he's fully on board with getting back by then. Who was the fastest we've seen? I didn't tell you about that. Don't fucking hit me media with that. Travis, you're not here right now. Aaron is coming back this season. Hi, here.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Not today on new heights. I think I know nothing. No, who is the fastest we've ever seen come back from in Achilles? I think it was Tural Sugs, right? Didn't Tural Sugs tear Achilles early one season and then play later that season? I can't think about. No cam acres came back pretty fucking fast.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Yeah, I think a lot of it depends on how it tears, right? Like whether it's like a clean tear or it like, kind of like shreds, whatever. I don't know, I'm not a doctor. There's probably a lot that goes into it. How fast your body heals? Like some people's body just takes a little bit longer, you know? Yeah, you know, and he's young so he'll be all right.
Starting point is 00:48:15 It's a power of the stas, maybe you keep that stas. Maybe you'll be back out on the field in November. The other guest that was in attendance obviously was Paul Verib. Yay! Saw your man. My brother. I mean, obviously was Paul Verib. Yay! Saw your man. My brother. I mean, for me, and very technical, he was our first guest, which happened.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Yeah, man. I gave you the birthday shout out last year. What year ago? It was one year ago. Your birthday is this week, shout out. Hey, make sure if you see Travis Kelser this week, everybody who wishes my happy birthday, it'll be this episode of what airs the fourth.
Starting point is 00:48:42 So your birthday will be Thursday? Is that enddignum? Yeah, that adds up. All right, yeah, what'd you and Paul talk about? I just hadn't seen him in a while. So I just said, what's up? Said he just got done filming some stuff. And he's back in the city, he's back in the States.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So yeah, it was fun to see him there, man. He's a lifelong chiefs fan. So I've seen him at every super bowl every parade every big chiefs moment Him and his son Jack and we just we've kind of had some fun throughout the throughout the madness and Throughout all the winds man. It's been it's been a blast getting to get to know him knowing how much of a fan I am of his entire career man So it was cool to see me. He came out of nowhere. I was like, what man?
Starting point is 00:49:26 He just fired me up for the night, man. I know my God, Paul Rudd was in the fucking building. Let's go. The stars are out, man. He got the watch of good game. And ended up being an awesome game on Sunday night. Let's start with the first half, ups and downs. You guys got off to a really hot start,
Starting point is 00:49:42 went up 17, nothing in the first quarter. I'm not gonna lie I was not expecting a good game after the first quarter. I thought it was gonna be out of hand quickly Yeah, we got smell blood in the water man. We got smell blood in the water and just fucking keep the foot on the pedal man Isaiah Pacheco got things going early with a 48 yard rushing touchdown Which I don't even feel right. I'm like announcing that touchdown without bringing up my man, Trace Smith block on that touchdown. Okay. The dancer man out in space, you never know how it's going to go. Vicious.
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's either a KO or it's a lot of elephants on parade. He knew he knew he was going to he was going to land on a stomach after that one. He went full Superman extension left his feet. That is three three three. I'm very often to get a block. And he fucking lay a man. He fucking landed it, man. I don't watch and trade play. I'm not gonna. We need to get him on the podcast. I got a first fucking play man. From the first fucking play to the end, dude. I love that dude. Yeah, we definitely got to get him on the pod. You heard that, Trey. Look at him for you. But check your head. 84 yards rushing. 42 yards receiving in the first half alone. And back
Starting point is 00:50:54 in his home state in New Jersey. Hey, he's worn red everywhere. He's been high school college at Rutgers. And he finds himself wearing red back in his home state, put up an outstanding game. We'll get more to that in just a little bit. Pat my homes then through his 200th career touchdown pass. Two-hundo. God damn. To know a great. We saw that one. My homes is the fastest quarterback to reach 200 touchdowns in NFL history. I'm cheers to 200 more, bud. Let's keep stacking those things up, huh? How about it? NFL history. Cheers to 200 more, but
Starting point is 00:51:31 Let's keep stacking those things up, huh? How about it? Let's just do it. Yeah, man. I mean, patting my homes. I got to know a great man. I thought that touchdown was, if you watch it from actually like diagnosing the play, pat that unbelievable job of, you know, not just pulling the trigger initially because I was open. Kind of like saw the, the fender on Noah leaving Noah to come and tell me because Pat's eyes came to me. Yeah. So in time, that's why Pat my home is one of the best men. That play, it's little things like like that be able to see things that I think would most quarterbacks just aren't fucking. Gonna notice able to see they're just not comfortable enough to keep their eyes on a certain player, but yeah, have my homes 200. You had like three catches early or something like that. And then it seemed like a lot of the attention
Starting point is 00:52:20 on the defense was starting to get applied to you. Three catches then one drop and it was just it was yeah, it was struggling.'d struggle as offense from that point on. It seemed like things are going to get out of hand after the first quarter. Not going to lie. We already talked about that. They also get a field goal. So you guys are leading at the half 20 to 12. But it definitely felt like the momentum had started to shift a little bit before half time. Yeah. What was the message in half time?
Starting point is 00:52:42 What were you guys talking about? Finishes game, man. Finishes game. Don't let that, what happened the message in half time? What were you guys talking about? Finishes game, man, finishes game. Don't let that what happened there at the end of that first half trickle into the second half, which unfortunately, it kind of did. And you know, that's why it's football, baby. You got to rally the troops sometimes and just, you know, find ways to win tough games. And even though we made that game hard on ourselves, I think we still, you know, at the end of the day, finished the game the right way.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And that's what you got to be proud of. That's what you got to take away from it. And sometimes you just get fortunate that, you know, at the end of the day, finished the game the right way. And that's what you got to be proud of. That's what you got to take away from it. And sometimes you just get fortunate that, you know, you can take these learning, these bumps in the road that everybody's got to learn and kind of mesh together a little bit more, you take them with a win. And that's what at the end of the day, all that fucking matters.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah, second half starts. Pat says it himself in the post game interview. Well, you just said you got to find a way to win in second half. Jets tie the game 2020 early in the third quarter. Chiefs D shuts them out the rest of the game. That's a good as deep as man. We got it. We got to start fucking helping these guys out because they're playing. I'm not that we're not helping them out, but we got to start like really put
Starting point is 00:53:43 up points that we know we're capable of because if they're holding teams Under three scores or under three touchdowns. I don't I don't see why we can't put up four to five touchdowns a game man We have the firepower to be able to do it We just got to go out there and stop hurting ourselves man. Harris and Bucker scores. What would be the game-winning field goal? 26-yard field goal. That's my down minutes That's my down. It's in 51 seconds left in the fourth. Hey, Rhee. To put you guys up, 23-20. Let's talk about the controversy a little bit. After the jets get the ball back, Zach Wilson ends up fumbling. Chief D creates a turnover with seven minutes
Starting point is 00:54:20 and 24 seconds left in the fourth quarter. You guys then begin to become a classic, Andy Reed, Long Drive Drill, going 15 plays, 45 yards and killing it all of the time. Killing all of the time left on the clock. You even took a direct snap at one point in this drive on third and one, which I always love when the big getty's at quarterback. Not right now, man, that thing almost got away from me, boy.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I'll tell you what. It was a, you could tell it was a little off and it was hot. It was hot. And I had took a few shots of my left shoulder. I really couldn't like raise it that well. I was like, no, yeah. The drive was highlighted by a final scramble from Pat Mahomes, a 25-yard scramble,
Starting point is 00:55:03 where he went down on the one-yard line to be able to kneel it out and not give the Jets an opportunity to tie the game or win it. But that really might not have been the highlight of it. I think there was a controversial call. Jets fans have been complaining. Friend of the show, sauce gardener has been saying words. I feel like everybody's been commenting on this. We've heard from a lot of Jets fans, but I think it's time to bring on our own Jets fan. The biggest Jets fan we know
Starting point is 00:55:31 and the person that keeps the show successful on all of our social media is, and didn't feel right to give Jets fans to not give Jets fans an opportunity to speak up. So we decided to bring our own Jets Jake. Please welcome Jets Jake on to the show, everybody. Jets fans an opportunity to speak up. So we decided to bring our own Jets J. Please welcome Jets J. Go on to the show everybody J. J. He's doing great. How's it? How do you feel in Jets? Yeah, I mean, it's pretty shitty. That was a rough way to watch an end of a football game.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Oh, come on. You guys had a fuck. It was one of your best games yet. I'm sitting here taking notes about you guys finishing off the game the right way and blah blah blah. Yeah, ball in ball in the hand. Ball in hand. You know, ball in the hand. You you want to talk about the flag in the hand while the pick was called. No, no, all right. Ball in hand. You want to talk about the fun with the heaven right before the dream. Oh, you got to know. I don't want to talk about. Yeah, man, it was, you got to know I don't want to talk about by sound of the night was. Yeah. Now, man, it was, you know, I, the one thing you'd never
Starting point is 00:56:31 do you think it was a whole was to get to the, let's set it up. Everybody wants you. I'm not watching. I feel like it's controversial. Let's set it up. Chief store and interception. Uh, on a play in this drive along the right side line. It seems like it is a interception for the jets and they're going to get an on a play in this drive along the right side line.
Starting point is 00:56:45 It seems like it is an interception for the Jets and they're gonna get an opportunity to come down the field and either tie it or win it in the fourth quarter, below and behold, flag on the ground. And I think what Jake is referencing is that the flag came out, what some are saying and by some, a lot of Jets fans are saying, a little late. Do you agree that the flash was like this?
Starting point is 00:57:08 I've seen late calls my entire life. I've seen late calls my entire life. What do you mean? I've been a part of calls where the plays feels like it's over and I still get called for it. If you're arguing whether he threw it late and whether he waited till the intercept, that's one argument. If you're arguing whether or not it was a hold, that's where I'm, you clearly
Starting point is 00:57:26 see the man's arm across Mark West's face holding onto the opposite shoulder. Okay. He leaned into him with all his weight. It was a bang bang situation, but if you're a ref, look behind the sauce, bang bang is supposed to not be a penalty, right? Bang bang is like they use that to say not a penalty usually That's what they say it's a bang bang play It's not I was saying bang bang because it just happened quick Yeah, if you see if you see strain and somebody getting restricted with the guys arm across his chest holding the back of his Shoulder pads It doesn't matter if it's bang bang or not if you give the ref that
Starting point is 00:58:03 You can't give the ref that. You know what I mean? Like you can't put it in his hands to be able to call that. You know what I mean? Because then you put it in his hands. Because on third and 22, Jermaine Johnson is waving at the ref being held by the other man. That's not forced. You can't just go like this and get a hold in call.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I thought that was nonsense. Let's not go. We don't need office alignment. Get put on the map here. Let's stick to the points of hand. Let's stick to the point and reverse a Travis chiefs are on where the jets are at. Is that a whole? How many times is that happening to you on every play? Um, just question. Just a question. I mean, I'm not.. I feel like they just were playing that much, man. But if you get a good defensive, like they're calling man a lot,
Starting point is 00:58:49 situations like that are gonna happen all throughout the game. And I'm not sure if it was a quote unquote, make up call from what had been happening the entire day. Mm. This is why we just need to interview refs. I would love to hear the refs talk about this. Not a bad idea. I did see Dean Blendee. I would love to hear the refs talk about this. Not a bad idea. I did see Dean Blendino.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I just want to hear it. Like whether it's right or wrong, it already happened. I just want to hear his thought process so that I know I can stay out of that situation the next time. I did see Dean Blendino. Who the fuck is that guy? A very well-regarded former official and knowledgeable on officiating NFL analysts.
Starting point is 00:59:28 What do you say? He said that it was clearly a hole. I'm not gonna lie. What is he, you know? No. I think his problem with it is that even though it's certainly within the realm of being called a hole, I do not like
Starting point is 00:59:43 when officials call questionable things at the end of games. That's all I'm gonna say. I'm with you on that. I do not like when officials call questionable things at the end of games. That's all I'm going to say. I'm with you on that. I think let the guys play through. It's got to be a, it's got in my opinion, it should be a clear blatant file, which this was right on that. Clear blatant file. Right within five yards of the line of scrimmage dudes hold in the flag. It was past five. It was a little bit you could saw you could saw he was like fucking reaching 40 tight as belt little too tight. It was in his head. He had it out. Zach Wilson was more decisive with his throws on Sunday night. He was going to get to that as a jet span. What are you feeling after? I know you're not happy with the way the whole went what do we feel about Jack Wilson is the optimism back for jet spans yeah I mean
Starting point is 01:00:30 I've just been on a rollercoaster ride this entire season but if he plays like that like Robert Tallah said we're going to win a lot of games so very excited to see a play like that at the end of season I think to your point Jason I'll speak to you in some Eagles fans here. I think we're just sick and tired of some late game calls going for the teams when teams could have, you know, had the ball back and a chance to decide the game with the offensive. We just got to give the fans what they want to see, you know, some offensive football. So you guys aren't playing the game right, man. It's all I'm gonna say. It's a good pun right there, the game, the all the ins and outs, baby, you got to play it right. Tom the throw the fly faster next time.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I know that's enough. Okay. Okay. Jake, you've had your time. Right. You're thank you for joining us, Jake. All right. So I'm just just kidding.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Hey, just you. We appreciate you guys and sauce. Thank you. I think Jets Jake had a, at a, at a number of points that I think he goes, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. There was late holding call keeps the drive alive for the chiefs. at a number of points that I think equals, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. There was late holding call, keeps the drive alive for the Chiefs, and then they take a kneel at the one and just run the clock out.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Listen, it's the same thing as when James Berryberry got called for the hold. If you're gonna do it and you do it, there's always a chance that he gets called. I will say, in general, and I remember talking to Gene Starrator after we played in the shoot bowl against the Pats, his whole emphasis was not to make an impact in the game if he didn't have to. And I think that's what officials should be trying to do. Dean Blondon, do you know things otherwise? He thinks you just called the game
Starting point is 01:01:58 the way you normally call it? Yeah. I'm not a favor of that. Let the boys play, Reff. Let the boys play. Yeah, until you got a guy Literally on your back and you're trying to get that's where you call it though. That's it's got to be a gregious. It's got to be a gregious I'm just You just have to in my mind you just have to not put it in their hands. I think that's a good way to say it
Starting point is 01:02:20 You know, I mean just don't even don't even put it in the ref's hands to make that fucking call and say, you know, I mean, just don't even don't even put it in the ref's hands to make that fucking call. And you got to play, you got to play that borderline to be in physical and playing smart in the situation like that because those calls are detrimental, man, if you if you do get hit with them, I'm with them. I've been on the phone. So baby, I've been on kill sad. You can't put yourself in the situation. And listen, a lot of people do complain about the
Starting point is 01:02:44 chiefs getting late calls that go their way and then winning the game That's what good teams do they capitalize on mistakes that other teams make all right, so you know I think that this is a little bit of a fallacy that the chiefs get all these calls You only remember it because they end up closing it out after these calls are made There were other calls out the game that didn't go the chiefs way there are the calls that There are things that didn't go the cheeseway. There are the calls that there are things that didn't happen and just that Unfortunately, it adjusted and capitalized quite as much. That's football, baby. Man, Robert Sellers piss. Oh, I'm so I'm gonna tell you what man. I'm not having
Starting point is 01:03:15 Not I went up to him after the game. I told him coach, you know, that's a hell of a those a hell of a fight Like you do it the right way you can tell that you you're in it for the right reasons. You do it the right way. And I respect the hell out of that. He wasn't trying to hear shit I was saying after the game. You're still pretty fired up from having it. But I still wanted to make sure, yeah, I still wanted to make sure you heard me say that. I just got a lot of respect for that coach.
Starting point is 01:03:35 And I will say this back to the officiating, dude, I am so tired of fans of everybody getting upset at officials. We've talked about it last year. We had a game against the commanders and on everybody complaining should have been a face mask. There are gonna be missed calls. There are gonna be calls that go for you.
Starting point is 01:03:53 This is the way the game goes. And the thing that really bothers me is when people like slow mo-clip something to prove that something happened. It's like, dude, the refs aren't seeing the slow-mo version You know that right like this happened in real time. It's not gonna be it didn't happen You didn't have four seconds in a slow-mo with a yellow circle to be like hey did you see that like there?
Starting point is 01:04:16 Dude, I'm not interested in second-guessing officials with slow-mo. I don't even like seeing it I'm not gonna lie. Let's get to the final thoughts on the game that probably a bunch of the people listening want to talk about. And that's Donna Kelsey's big weekend. All right now Mama Kels. Man, she's been on top of the fucking world, man. She's been on the move, man. It's cool seeing everyone follow Mama Kels around
Starting point is 01:04:39 and show her all the love. Obviously Sunday was a second time, mom has seen one of our games or both of our games in the same day in one day, whirlwind celebrity field weekend. Obviously at the Eagles was probably the biggest celebrity that she saw a week. She sat next to the Jake from State Farm, uh, the entire game. And let me tell you Jake is that guy is a good neighbor. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Now, yeah, this is just going to be just everybody's like way to, you know, jump on, jump on TV. Just sit next to mom. I mean, it's been working. If I'm an advertiser, I, hey, how do we get something next to mom? I mean, she knew I got some. We need to add a new heights at the Eagles game. She is. She's rapping. Reppin hard. Maybe that's why our subscriber counts up.
Starting point is 01:05:28 All because this is walking billboard for new heights, baby. And obviously after the Eagles game, she makes a she makes the car trip down to her up to MetLife Stadium for the Sunday maybe she's for suggests. And it looks like she had made it all of three steps out of the stadium before she is in her Travis Kelsey Jersey. She had that thing in the Fanny Pac-Man. Still infill it out of you at the game and already is taking off my Jersey thanks mom. You guys won.
Starting point is 01:05:55 You guys just won. On to the next one. On to the next one. Nice mom. I was thinking about going to I don't I hope you're not upset. I didn't go but it was I it's birthday. So just happy birthday, baby. Why?
Starting point is 01:06:08 She loves the camera you got her. She's let's go. It's nothing cool. And a little kid going around snapping pics on a Polaroid. Is she taking it? She has. We got a bunch of them lying around. She took a bunch of her birthday party Saturday.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Nice. She was Papa, Papa Kels was sitting with her, showing her how to work it. It was, it was awesome. All right, big head getting in there. So, Bob leaves the Eagles game and heads the East Rutherford, New Jersey to watch the Chiefs take on the Jets. It's Sunday night football and she has to slum it with some be-less celebrities. Hey, man, hey, hey, don't be chopping them down. Oh, sorry. So I said, so the second we get in a row, she's in the booth with a Grammy award winner Taylor Swift. Yeah. And there are, she brought some of her friends, Deadpool's in attendance, Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, Wolverine. Big ride,
Starting point is 01:06:58 man. You've done, you've done something with Ryan before Rob McElhenny's birthday, birthday video. I did Rob McElhenny's birthday party. Um, he reached out about any equals really being a Voluntow's happy deal. Yeah. Me and Rob love my guy Rob. See him in LA this week probably at the game hopefully. Okay, let's get let's get right to it. Is the NFL overdoing it?
Starting point is 01:07:19 What is your honest opinion? Not I think I think everybody is just like over when. Feelings for Taylor. What is your hot opinion on how the NFL is treating celebrities at games? I think it's fun when they show who all is at the game. I think it brings a little bit more to the atmosphere, brings a little bit more to what you're watching. But at the same time, I think they're overdoing it. They're overdoing it a little bit, for sure, especially my situation. Right. I think they're just trying to have fun with it.
Starting point is 01:07:53 And a lot of the people watching, go ahead, let's hear it. I just think the NFL is not used to celebrities coming to the games. Like basketball has to figure it out. They're all court side. They're sitting there. They show them once or twice, and then they get back to the games. Like basketball has to figure it out. They're all court side, they're sitting there, they show him once or twice, and then they, but they get back to the game. And it feels like, oh, look at all these
Starting point is 01:08:10 a-lifes celebrities of the game, keep showing them, show them, show them, show them, do, listen. You show them once, let them know that they're maybe after a touchdown, you get a little clip, but it can't be overboard with it. People there watch the game, right? Yeah, they're not there to get thrown on TV. I'll tell you what though, it is,
Starting point is 01:08:24 because you never know, you get caught, it's just throwing a big old cheeseburger in and you look like an idiot. You know what I mean? There's certain things that you just don't wanna be on TV at all time, you know? Well, it was a lot. Not only was it a lot of the celebrities,
Starting point is 01:08:38 but dude, how many commercials have you done? Every commercial break, it was about seven commercials. It was a Travis Kelsey. We racked it up in the offseason. We've been the offseason. We racked it up. We still got like two more to just in just in case you still got to leave one or two more.
Starting point is 01:08:55 We got to experience they got the state farm my auto shout out to Pat for bringing me into that one. Yep. Yep. Experian who's now the proud presenter of new heights. That's right. Yeah. No, we got them all, man. We're in there. We got everyone you can think it's But a good, it's a good off cover to all. Yeah, we've covered all rational commercials.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Teabrab is Don't be hating. I hope you hate more than two million female viewers. That's got to be an NFL record right there. Oh shit. Damn two million female viewers. How do you even calculate that? There's gender TVs? Like how do you question? How do you know? How do you even equate that? You just base it off of all the other things on that TV they watch. And Si has definitely a female right here. Yeah. I guess what we do know is they're not going to slow down with it because this was the highest Sunday night viewed game that they've had in a while. 27 million viewers tuned in to watch Zach Wilson take on the Kansas City Chiefs. I think a few of them might have
Starting point is 01:09:56 been there for a Deadpool and Taylor. And Wolverine. And Wolverine. What else? I'm trying to think of what else he Jackman's been in. I know the the showman, the showman, the greatest show. Yeah. Yeah, it's an okay movie. I like it. Laym is, which is more of a proud. I didn't watch.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I'm not gonna lie. I know, I know mom enjoyed it. She, uh, I shot her a text. I didn't know I didn't get a chance to see her. So I shot her a text right after the game on the bus ride to the airport. And I was like, Hey, mom, sorry. I didn't get to catch you before I left. But I hope you enjoyed the game. I appreciate you always trying to make it to both of our games. It's crazy. She's been making it to both of our sporting events since I was five and started actually playing sports. So it's really,
Starting point is 01:10:39 she's going on 30 years of making it to both of our events in one day. And that's fucking commitment, ladies and gentlemen. That's what we're talking about when we say we have the best mother in the world because she, even all the way to the NFL when she could just sit there and watch the game on TV, she's still finding a way to make it to the sweet men. So shout out to Mama Kells for coming through.
Starting point is 01:11:00 She also told me thank you because she was in an alternate universe. She was sitting there with Deadpool and Wolverine and Just just in a in a different world and that's where you're at mom exactly that category now She's um and then she got to see some heights fellas Pull up who from the heights daily Eli Yeah, and then a soup bite the soup himself James settled Yeah, and then a soup bite the soup himself James settled
Starting point is 01:11:30 Shout out to the settles James came up look at that dude. We had a good career. We had a good crew let alone, you know Eric Jones and All my all my heights fam that comes every game they can they cut to live shots of the sweet throughout the game No less than 17 times damn. That's crazy. It's like once a drive I mean that's more than Jack Nicholson on court side with the Lakers. There's a hot ticket, man. They'll say that that sweet was rocking. They were enjoying themselves. Somebody told me that everybody was enjoying themselves and that sweet, so. Who said that? Mom, mom told me that she was like, my God, everybody was enjoying themselves. Everybody's having fun. That's what it's about, man. That's what football is about. Hang it out with your friends, having fun, meeting Wolverine, Deadpool, Lake lively. That's what football is about. Hangin' out with your friends, having fun, mean move orine, Deadpool, like lively.
Starting point is 01:12:07 That's what this game's about. Maybe the craziest stat of this whole thing, ratings were partly powered by a spike in female viewership in the demographic of teenage girls, a 53% surge. How do they get this stat? How many stats do people just make up? Just fucking bogus just shit that like show me how you got this stat.
Starting point is 01:12:30 It's AI, Trev. Good point. Maybe Instagram maybe Snapchat really says it. Although all the teenage girls Snapchat in the game. Exactly. There's got to be something like that that they're calculating this off of. I just don't get it how you can just make these assumptions. Teenage girls they how do you know how do you know this in the household yeah oh look at this there was eight times increase in infants watching the game babies were huge into it is really into this football game hey whatever we got to do, nice. There was a four times increase in dogs.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Dog viewership is through the rules. Oh, man. All right, you can't make this shit up, man. Or you can catch all the games all season long at Buffalo Wild Wings. There's nothing like watching football at a sports bar and Buffalo Wild Wings is There's nothing like watching football at a sports bar and Buffalo Wild Wings is the sports bar for football season. They have everything you need on game day, baby. Seriously, absolutely everything. Everything. They got to be missing something. I need trip. I mean, I need a lot of things now. Yeah, you do. You're a man of need. Great need.
Starting point is 01:13:41 But this is not the case, Jason. I can assure you Bdubs has everything. It has it all. Has all. All right. Well, so you're telling me if I need wall to wall TVs, Krispy, juicy wings, with all 26 Bdubs sauces and dry robes and a great beer selection, you're saying Buffalo Wild Wings has all of these things. That is right. It's not being so naive, Jason, plus in addition to having all of that. It's fun to watch the games at a sports bar with your buddies or make your friends when you bond with strangers over an insane game-winning touchdown.
Starting point is 01:14:20 All right. Now, that connection, it's electric. Slap in hands of the stranger over some chicken wings and beer. How do I know what sounds better? Hi, it's Settle. You've convinced me.
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Starting point is 01:16:06 just beat somebody by 70 points. Damn, near 50, but yeah. Only to turn around and lose 4820 to the bills. Josh Allen. Holy cow. No, but Josh went the fuck off. The score might have been 4820, but without question, the highlight of the night was the return of Demar Hamlin, the safety that obviously went down,
Starting point is 01:16:30 I forget what that medical thing was called, but obviously the incredibly scary moment last year when Demar went down is hard-stopped and nobody really knew what to expect, whether he'd be alive or anything, and all of a sudden a year later he finds himself back on the football field. You want to talk about a field good story man. That is fucking awesome. That's the best man. Congrats but other so happy for you for the whole organization the team. I'm sure that that I mean dude that's not surprisingly when 48 20 that would
Starting point is 01:16:58 adjuice me the fuck up the place of football. That adjuice me the fuck up too. Hell yeah. How'd he go out there and get that dub for my guy. Bill's also won each of their last three games by at least 28 points. So the Josh Allen, you know, three picks in the first game or however many picks in the first game against the jets and Finding a way to lose that game. He is back being Josh Allen, ladies and gentlemen. That was he he tightened it up and he's he's playing fucking lights out right now as well as the the entire bills team is so shout out to the bills man I mean shout out to the bills keep it moving though the Broncos get their first win of the season all right finally got a dub against the bears man the bears Broncos climbed out of a 21 point hole. Come back, started with Sean Payton, cutting the sleeves off his jacket. It's too fucking hot out here.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Anybody got any scissors? What happened? He just rolling them up. I don't know. He didn't like it. It was the scrunchies. So it probably. Oh,
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Starting point is 01:18:08 All right. Now now Sean Payton's cutting the sleeves off. We got to get some sleeve cut. I we got to get Nick to wear a long sleeve shirt and cut the sleeves off. We got to get on that. No, I don't think any reason going for it. He wears the exact same thing, whether it's hot cold, whatever. He's, uh, he's no sleeves regardless.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Or he shortsleeves. He shortsleeves should NFL coaches have to dress like players like, uh, like baseball managers, like should we always thought that that's really weird. The baseball managers are in full on baseball pants. What do we do it? Everything. I got the jersey on. We need baseball managers and baseball pants. I don't know. That's a weird scene in the game. That MLB world. Could you imagine Andy Reed and some football pants there on the sideline? Come on, man. You have to come in my coach like that, dog.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Let's fuck up, man. Did you imagine any coach in a fucking uniform? Like, don't come in handy. Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell's going to look pretty. Dan Campbell's going to shoot up right the fuck now. Yeah, right. Good point.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Good point. Oh, fuck. Shout out to Dan Campbell. The dude. Did you see it? Have you seen anything yet on the dude? Have you seen him yet? Have you made the, uh, the correlation? Remember last time I said, no, I still don't see it. I still don't see it. Fuck you. The cowboy is bounced back this week, beating the Patriots 38 to three. Damn. They, uh, they got, they got cracked by the Cardinals the week before and bounce back man back to being a Cowboys I expected this to be more of a game the Patriots defense is I'm really good
Starting point is 01:19:35 So the fact the Cowboys beat them this handily They That's a hell of a bounce back for the Cowboys worse loss of loss of Bella checks career. Yeah, cowboys are for real this year, man. Think Mac Jones got benched as well. I think he got benched, unfortunately. I did see that. Hopefully Mac and the gang can get it going, man. Never loved to see a guy go down.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Christian McCaffery scores four touchdowns and the 49ers win over the Cardinals. After the Cardinals just beat the cowboys, they come back and get cracked or smoked by the 49ers. They are absolutely rolling right now. They are. They're only 4-0 team besides who is it? Oh, the Eagles. Yes. Eagles are 4-0. Good for you guys, man. Fucking guys. Top. McCavory, three rushing TDs, one receiving TD and 177 yards from scrimmage. He was out there running. He was just out there fucking. Give me the ball.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I'm going to go run with it. McCaffery be the first running back to win MVP since Adrian Peterson. If he puts an entire campaign together, he's going to definitely have enough touches and touchdowns 100% man, the guys too good. And their offenses, just like I said, it's rolled right now. It could legitimately happen. If you look at Shanahan offenses, that style, they give the running backs opportunities, he is running out of his mind right now.
Starting point is 01:21:00 They got the offense aligned to do it. The system is there to get it done. I could easily see McCaffrey having some insane stats this year. Andy's like Adrian Peterson. You can't say a single fucking thing bad about McCaffrey. I mean, he's just one of the greatest, man. One of the greatest, what is fun to fucking watch just a good person off the field.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Moving on to Derek Henry throws a TD pass against the Bengals. Bengals fall to the Titans 27 to three. My guy, Vraebs, Northeast Ohio, football, head coach over there and Tennessee finds a way to get the dub and running back. Derek Henry throws his fourth TD pass of his career. Fourth against the day. He's throwing that many touchdown passes.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah, man, he's doing the T-Bow jump pass to perfection. He's got the frame for it because he's so tall. Yeah, so he's got the nice little t-dry. He also has the toss sweep pass. Yeah, the toss sweep, catch it, run and throw it over. The T-Bow pass, I'm talking about it. Yes, I remember the highlight. Jump the jump pass.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Yeah, this one, he lined up in the wildcat formation on third and goal. He rolled to his right and then delivered a Jumping to yard pass to the tight end Josh Wiley since an added bear cat I feel like it's a brony wearing this fucking jersey. May get stung off me man Yeah, rookie Jay Wiley getting in the fucking end zone first first tuddy and it came from Derek Henry That'd be a fun stat to say for the rest of your life man Henry told himself go be a fun stat to say for the rest of your life, man. Henry told himself, go be paid in manning when dad Hill, relayed the play call to him.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Dude, you see what they did? I'm watching the clip right now. No, I actually didn't. So their motion out quarterback leaves. They're in a four by one formation. And while he's on the backside and they forget that he's eligible, it looks like like nobody's guardian. I guess it's because there's nobody in zero who's responsible for the quarterback,
Starting point is 01:22:50 right? Which quarterback? The quarterback that's lining up on him. Like when you think of like a zero red zone defense, nobody has the quarterback, right? Like you're blitzing the quarterback. Yeah, the quarterback's the only one that's on the top. If the running bag leaves, there's one other person, usually that has the running back in coverage. So when the quarterback is the only one that's in the top. If the running back leaves, there's one other person, usually, that has the running back in coverage. So when they burst a wildcat, one of the zero guys that had the tight end on that side had to leave with the quarterback. So now nobody is responsible for the tight end. Is that what haven't you think? It sounds like it's just they they had a tick on being able to get, you know, the defense in a position where they had to communicate
Starting point is 01:23:26 and they just didn't communicate very well. Yeah, yeah. Right. Good old window dressing, is I like to call it? You know what I'm saying? Just throw that shit up there and make them up and figure that shit out. It looks real nice.
Starting point is 01:23:37 It looks real nice when you do it right. Got good carpenters down there in Tennessee. Nah, nah, nah. ESPN Plus broadcast a toy story version of Falcon's Jax. I don't know. Yeah, man. That was pretty cool. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:23:51 It's also kind of scary. AI is a little bit scary, right? Like, how can it be that live? That's what I think happened. I don't think that's AI. I think it's just a simulcast. I don't think it's AI. Well, how would they get the players to look like
Starting point is 01:24:06 toy story characters? A.I. AI creates shit on its own. That was a simulcast. No, no, no, no, no. This was the players were like, I'm not smart enough to even argue this. So whatever it is, it was cool. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Well, the game took place in Andy's room and featured the main toy story characters. It had a claw that came down to spot the ball. Stinky dog serving as the chain gang. Nice. Some of the toy store broadcasts were the B.J. and Robinson Juke, of course, that took a whole bunch of them.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Trevor Lawrence had flames coming out of his shoes on a 22 yard scramble. It's NFL Blitz style. That was the one I saw. That was pretty cool. Did you see the Jaguar's touchdown celebration? I did not. Ooh, that was a good one.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah, good one. You know, everybody's alive, everybody's alive, and then when there's people around, you gotta act like a toy again. So like when Andy walks in the room, everybody falls to the ground, like they're just like a toy not being played with. So what they did?
Starting point is 01:25:02 That was a pretty good one. That's good. That's really good. You gotta see it. You gotta see it. You gotta see it. Smart way to play into it, man. I do think though, if the goal was to get kids behind this, I'm surprised that they went with Toy Story and not
Starting point is 01:25:12 Bluey or Paw Patrol. You gotta understand. Toy Story will forever be for kids. Travis, you gotta understand. I got kids. All right, I know what the fuck I'm talking about. They don't like Toy Story? It's okay, but it ain't nowhere on the level of blue your Paw Patrol.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Like it ain't even in the same place. There's just more, I feel like there's just more content for blue in them, so they like to see more of it. It's new where the animation is better than what was on toy story, especially on the original. You think the animation in blue is better than the toy story animation? Go back and watch the original toy story.
Starting point is 01:25:41 If you haven't seen it in a while, go back and watch the original toy story. It was great. Ground groundbreaking for its time. It is nowhere even close to what they're doing now with the animation. All right, I guess I'll take your word for it, Dad. Hey, if it would have been bluey, I think all of my kids would have lost their goddamn mind
Starting point is 01:26:00 with a bunch of dogs playing football on a field. Maybe that's why they did do tour story because they couldn't nail that level of animation live. Anyway, whatever. If you guys could be any animated character in an alternate broadcast of your games, what would you be? Little, another no dumb question.
Starting point is 01:26:19 If I could be any animated character, man, the animated character I've always assimilated the most with and the one that I've loved the most and the one that I pick every time I'm playing in a Mario game, motherfucking donkey. Toad. Yeah, I'm going DK, baby. That's a fucking good one. That's a pretty good one. Who am I going with? Yeah. What are you going with?
Starting point is 01:26:42 Gosh, you got me thinking of Mario characters now. Animated characters. You can't get the animated yeties. We got Zeus. Could you be Hercules? Oh, Hercules is a good one growing up. What's your favorite animated movie? Goddamn it, see, I'm going to need a list of them.
Starting point is 01:26:58 I'm going to need a search bar. I can give it to you right now. Jungle Book. All the ones when we were growing up, you got Jungle Book, Lion Lion King Robin Hood with the wolf as Robin Hood with all the other animals playing all the other characters I mean Shrek has got to be a good one. I'd say Shrek. That's about a big yeti as a gift Shrek's good Shrek would be good. Yeah, little beauty in the beast. There you go. I can be the beast I would have thought you would have said like Lion King right away or something like that. I mean I do love a fucking I love Lion King
Starting point is 01:27:24 It's a classic. Jungle Book was always my favorite growing up. More modern ones, dude, my two favorites, Coco and Moana. Let's go throw it out there. Those are my favorites. Then I watch with the girls. I don't think Coco Aladdin is good.
Starting point is 01:27:38 God, I love Aladdin. Aladdin's a good one. I love watching it with Aladdin too, because the girls get scared when Aladdin and Abu are in the looking for the lamp and then Abu touches the forbidden treasure. Oh, get them every time. Aladdin was great. I forgot about Aladdin.
Starting point is 01:28:01 And we've been watching it a bunch recently. Kylie keeps asking me why do you keep putting on Aladdin? Because it's a fucking good movie. Yeah, Kai, where do you put on? Kai? That's how I got for you. That's a good animated movie. It was South Parked movie. That was a good one. Dude, we go adult animated movies. Steve America. I guess that's not animated. It's definitely animated. Whatever it's called a puppetry. You got right. You're right. It's got to be at least partly animated though, right? Like you can't all just be who monsters ink. That's another that's another big. It was good. Sully. Sully. Good ball player. Sully would be a good ball player. I don't know. I was asking not so much. What was asking me a kicker? You got one eye.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Not so much Mike was asking me a kicker. You got one eye Got a big foot to it might be pretty good. Oh, you remember Roger the rabbit fuck that's I mean, that's a great movie partly animated It's like a half and half one half and half. I don't think I've Ever been more sexually attracted to a cartoon. I didn't watch that in a fucking minute. I have to fucking watch that Catch up on Roger the rabbit man. I haven't watched that in a while minute. I don't have to fucking watch that catch up on Roger the rabbit, man. I haven't watched that in a while. The Simpsons, where are you big Simpsons guy? We were more South Park in the household. Yeah, we were South Park growing up celebrity death match. I will say there are not many like more on point culturally like specific shows and Simpsons are South Park, like some of those episodes, where they make fun of like what's happening current event style is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Those guys are freaking out. Oh my gosh. I'm a family guy kid, my, for the rest of my life, you could throw on family guy and I'll sit there. Family guy was big for a little bit, but then it just became the same thing every single episode I feel like. No, I'm not going to let you do that to me. All right, fair enough.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Sorry, let's get to the stamps of the week. Now we hand out a couple of stamps to the guys who took their game to New Heights in week four of the NFL season. New Heights stamp of the week is brought to you by our favorite. Metabolism boosting zero sugar having beverage. Accelerator active energy drink. Just when you think we weren't going to find a way to get it in this show. It's here.
Starting point is 01:30:11 It's here at the very end of the baby. I'm even going strong. I'll start it off with my pick. Shout out to Texans rookie quarterback CJ Stroud from the Ohio state. Man, my dog is ball and man. He's playing having the best start to any rookie career at quarterback. CJ Stroud passes for 306 to Tuddy's. No interceptions in the Texans 30 to 6 went over the burgl.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Hey, Stroud now has 1200 yards passing this season. Sir past Andrew Luck for the second most passing yards ever by a player in his first four career games only Cam Newton Hey, fuck he's a good company to be in right there only Cam Newton is the only one that's had more at 13 86 That is 1386 yards. Yeah, Stroud hasn't thrown a pick. He's a second quarterback in the NFL history the entire history of the league to have no Interceptions in each of his first four career starts. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Wow. That's pretty crazy. Joining 2019's Garner Minshew. These guys know how to take care of the ball. How about that? Shout out to CJ Strouse for taking his game to New Heights, baby. I met him up in Cleveland when he was in college and I'll tell you what, man, he's surprised with how tall he is like the guy. He must have been playing around like seven footers in college
Starting point is 01:31:28 Because he was every bit of like six four six five when I met him and I didn't realize he was that big Got some life to him. Yeah, but he's making great decisions over there And he's I'll tell you what man. He's showing some life to a Texas team that I don't know if everybody had the expectations Whether at right now, but he's got that team rolling man. Shout out to Domingo Ryan too, man. Not only the Texans players are taking notice of Texans fans. I don't know if you've seen this, but have you seen the stride boys? They're starting to take over. Are we stride boys? Are we stride boys? I think I'm a stride boy, man. I'm all for him. I'm all for him, I'm going up there and balling, man. Representing no weights like that.
Starting point is 01:32:07 All right, for my pick, I mean, I gotta go to Cleo Mack. Six sacks in one game. That's a dangerous man right there. I mean, what do we do it? That's a dangerous man. How many sacks does he have to have before you start like not letting him get a sack? Like what are we doing here?
Starting point is 01:32:23 You just start rolling out, rolling out the other way every play. Whatever you got to do, you can't let somebody get six sacks. I mean, what the fuck are we doing? Six sacks. The record in the league is like 23. He's already a fourth of the way there after one game. I mean, that is unbelievable. As fucking wild.
Starting point is 01:32:41 You think you get to like three and like, all right, we're going to put a tie to the next to this guy the entire time at the end of the day You got a fucking you got a fucky, baby. We got a bow up. We got a bow up boys whoever it is We got a bow the fuck up. I got to find a way Hey, we got a help. We got to help him out, but we got to find a way Well, they weren't helping him out of me at six X I mean what are we pro? I got to see the place. Maybe they were chipping him and he's fighting through. Dude, he had six sacks.
Starting point is 01:33:08 The Seattle sea ox on Monday night had fucking. There's a lot. 11 sacks. There was a lot. Did they set the record? They tie the record? I forget what it was, man. Either way, though.
Starting point is 01:33:20 The sea ox, I don't know. They had a lot. Khalil set the single game franchise record, obviously, with six sex for the chargers. He might have that fucking record for three teams at this point. He might have been a little bit more fired up playing the Raiders is the most sacks a player has had against their former team. Since it became an official stat in 1982, no other player has had a game against their former team like
Starting point is 01:33:45 Khalil Mac just had. That's some that's taking a game to new heights if I've ever heard of baby. And if six sacks isn't enough, he also had 10 tackles and two force mumbles. What are we doing? How do we do it? That's not funny. I got to play the guy twice. I just don't understand why I did. I know. Oh, fuck you. It's gonna let the guy ruin the game? That's demoralized, man. He is a game wrecker. Shout out to Khalil for taking his game to New Heights, baby.
Starting point is 01:34:15 This is what happens. If I'm the tackle, first sack, coach, I gotta be better. I'm sorry, man. Dude, I'll get it next time. I promise you I got him. Take his through it. What about the second one? Second sack. Fuck, this guy's really good. I don't know, man. I don't know if I can do this third sack. I am furious. What the fuck are we doing?
Starting point is 01:34:30 Why are we just like this guy get running like what are we doing coach? I'd be furious about that What if he was so mad dude? What if he was you know me getting help and he was still finding a way dude? Cleo man. There's no chance There's no hard fucks sex fighting through chips and you don't know that, dude, you ever played a sick guy? Fuck that guy can get through a chip. I'll tell you what when it's one guy, that just blows my mind that you're going to let one person have that kind of set. Why it is astronaut. That's why I'm over here. Like, dude,
Starting point is 01:35:00 there's no way they weren't chipping them or doubling them. The quarterback wants to be just been helped like they just don't I can't see it happening like that. Alright I'd love to watch the clips right now but I think it's time for us to go for this one. We'll get to the clips on Cleo's six-sack game coming up on the Friday episode is gonna get released that will preview our upcoming opponents. Alright, but now, this episode's done. That's right. That's right.
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