New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - Lil Dicky on What’s Next After ‘Dave,’ His Philly Fandom and The Weirdest Thing He’s Signed | Ep 85

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

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Thank you so much for hopping on the Christmas Elm last year. Oh, yeah. I know you talked to, like, Connor. I was so surprised as an Eagles fan to receive an email signed Connor Barwin. I was like, fuck yeah. Did he really? He's in this department?

Are we doing it? Is this live? It is. I think technically we're recording. Hopefully we don't. Hopefully we don't use that. That might be the cold open. Let's not use that. That might be the cold open.

Welcome back to Newell 92 percenters presented by Waves Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Buffalo Wild Wings. Let's go sports bar. I love the class room participation. We're your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey, my big brother brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio New episodes come to you every single Wednesday or whenever we can get them to you and then subscribe on YouTube and wherever you get your Podcast follow the show on all social media at new high show with 1s and check out our official fan club at new high show Also with 1s Kelsey jam presented by Jim Bean is back. That's right

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Not doing it this year, I didn't even get one made yet. All right now, KC, it's going to be absolutely insane. We got my guy Lil Wayne pulling up. Tulche is coming to Casey. Diplo is gonna show up and show out as he always does. 2 Chainz is gonna be out there ripping it on the stage and you're all invited on Saturday May 18th. So go to KelseyJam.com now to purchase your tickets. I cannot wait. We're gonna do the same thing where we bring the best food from KC up there.

So it'll be a music and a food festival. Everybody, make sure you show up. We went 20,000 strong last year, and I can't wait to get back out in front of KC again, man. But let's get this episode going. Jason, let the people know what's coming up. We got another episode lined up for you guys. We're about to be joined very shortly by one and only

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It's that easy. All right, our guest today is the multi-platinum rapper and extremely talented actor out of Shelton Ham High School. You know him from his viral hits like Freaky Friday and save that money. He's the executive producer and star of Dave on FXX. In his own words, his dick is made of balls, skin, I think. He's built an entire TV show around the subject, but most importantly, he's a massive Philadelphia sports fan. It was featured on the Dreidel song on our last Christmas album,

the Eagles Christmas album, making his New Heights debut. Please welcome, it's the one and only, Lil' Dinky Baby! Yes sir! Is this a common thing that people do or no? I think so, we'll do it. Legendary.

Guys, it is such an honor to be here, truthfully. Dude, it is an honor to have you. We were so fired up when we found out you were coming on, and yeah, it's long time overdue, long time overdue. I'm so thrilled to meet new men. And like, I just really, I've never admired two men from afar more. So it's like, it feels, now I feel less weird loving you guys

so much having never been in the same room as you. It's the same thing. We just know it's reciprocating. Thank you. So I've ever since, once I saw you, I was like, that's my longest brother. That's my brother. I felt that way ever since I saw footage of you speaking all get once I saw you I was like this

Since I saw footage of you speaking man, I really what a dancer. It's incredible. He's so talented. Yeah, yes both of you First question as serious journalists, which We are not and I just read whatever the fuck's on this prompter. Um, we want to get to this, right? Do you want to be called on this podcast, Little Dicky, LD, Dave, Young Dick, Mr. Leftward, Sloppy Penis? Sloping, sloping, sloping. I can't read. I put you in a bad position with all of that. White Jesus, the urologist, which might be my favorite,

Cheesedick. That might be the one right there. Yeah, let's go with Cheesedick. I call half of my friends cheesedick, so. I'm sticking with the urologist if you're gonna let me. The urologist is cool. I like that it has like the in front of it. But Dave also works really well.

Perfect. Dave's cool. My preference. But I love that. Thank you for that. We just mentioned that you were on the Eagles Christmas album last year. Yeah, what was your initial reaction, I guess, when Connor emailed you to come on the album? First off, you gotta realize I'm like a true Eagles fan.

So to just receive an email, like an administrative email, signed Connor Barwin. See? I was like, whoa. And I felt really cool just receiving that email. That's how much I, the best part of me, like being a successful entertainer, I always say is truly that I get to like actually like meet and have relationships with these professional actors

There's nothing that like feels better to me in life Then like like being at like a nightclub and like and beads arm is around you. That's not you know what I mean? We're getting an email And that fell into that same bucket And I got that I got the email and out first off, you know, I see everything you guys do and I saw it like when Watching Jordan even sing like that crazy Like it was just like I was right there with you guys watching the whole thing unfold and I was just so honored to even Be reached out to and I was like what Christmas song are they gonna wanna? And then there was the hot, it was the Dreidel song.

And then I heard it and I was like, this is so good. And I didn't even wanna like do too much. I really barely did anything on it. I just introduced it and like really sang a few background vocals. But you guys had it covered and a true honor to be. I like, I literally, I wrote down, sometimes like I write down cool things

that I can say as a rapper In the future. Yeah, and I wrote down that I was on a song with you No, so that might come in a rap later. We need it. We yeah What is what did you think of how I Roseman do you think is a future in the music industry? Well before we get to the very professional interview we're about to do with Lil Dicky, we're gonna start with a little, as we always do, new news!

New news! That's right. Do you have news? Do you want to hear some new news? In your own style? New news! That was gangster. Thank you.

That was gangster. Right off the bat. That was good. Dave, Dave, latest news. We're both huge fans of Dave, obviously. It was recently announced that you're taking an extended hiatus from the show. And you've also just released your new album,

Penith, which is, I believe, a soundtrack from Dave. That's right. Can you share what you're doing next? Yeah, you know, I obviously love the show. It's a dream to make that show. Thank you. And I'm thrilled that you guys It's a dream to make that show. So fucking cool, man. Thank you. And I'm thrilled that you guys even watch it. But no, it just like, there's so many things I wanna do,

just whether it's making music, writing movies, you know, developing other shows that like when I'm making the show every season, the amount of work that a season takes is truly, it's unbelievable. I didn't even expect it. I'm a hard working ambitious guy. I was about to say, you're hands on too.

I am hands on. I think it's because I'm so hands on that it causes all the work. Yes, I'm sure, yeah. Because you know, I'm in the writer's room and then I'm like in every scene and then I'm like the guy editing it. You're writing, producing, directing, editing.

Yeah. That's a lot of hassle. The whole shebang. The whole shebang and then, which is a thrill. I'd much rather be in control and like you know, doing things that I'm passionate But of course like they're just I don't want to just do the same thing over and over again every year There's just other things I want to do. So I'm excited about all these different ventures I'm finally getting the time to focus on that. I wouldn't have had in season

what brings you more joy writing a great song or a great scene. Yeah song or a great scene? Yeah. I'd say right now they, they hold similar levels of joy, which is a lame answer. No, it's not. It's not. It is not lame.

And I will fucking fight anybody that says, Yeah, no, I, right now, I, you know, I, I think when it comes to like, I think I I'm more naturally good at like writing scripts and TV and film than I am as a Like I really feel like rap was like I ten thousand hour my way into like getting to where I feel like I am then even Now it's more of a crap like when I write a scene now Yeah, it's pretty much always good when I write a song. I wouldn't say that's the case, you know, okay I got you but that honestly makes it me even happier when I make a great song,

because I value it. There's no trial and error with it. Yeah, it's more kind of like, songs are just random, you know, throws of paint that come out, and there's so many different factors that can contribute to this random outcome of the way it makes you feel,

where scenes are more granular, and you can really kind of dictate the outcome more. Interesting. That makes sense. Well I'll tell you, some of my favorite scenes are when you go into your songs. Sure. Because those are fucking epic, dawg.

Let's talk a little bit more about the TV show, Dave, and just your TV career itself. Last season ended with an incredible episode where in a hostage situation with Brad Pitt man How cool was it to get Brad Pitt on set coolest experience? How did that even come about nothing school was it just was it just like a administration email dude? It was a cold email I literally have never met him. Yeah, I'm the Brad for answering his email Man, you know

First off dammit. I love both of you and I'm gonna be much later for like five minutes Brad Pitt is definitely the coolest guy I've ever met in my life. I've never met anybody Like he seems cool But sometimes like guys like have personas that are really cool and you meet them and they're like shy or just not fun to hang out with. Like this guy was the man. I believe it. And he was so nice to everybody on set.

I met him, unfortunately, the moment he walked on set, I was filming the scene where the stalker is creating a cast mold of my lower half. So I literally have to meet Brad Pitt fully naked naked covered in like sludge with like my dick outline like visible. And I have to like go and like warm out to like meet Brad Pitt. And like because I didn't even, you know, he responded to my email with a truly iconic response like metaphorically saying he would be there to the point where like I like didn't know like if it was real or like a joke or what and like even like then they asked his Asians is this real? They were like what. And even then they asked his agents, is this real? They were like, yes.

But even, you have to see him show up to believe this is actually gonna happen, that Brad Pitt is gonna make, come on my TV show. I hasn't done TV in 30 years. And it wasn't like a brief cameo where I see him in a bar and say, hey Brad, and he's like, yo, he was there shooting four nights from 8 p.m. to 7 a.m.

Like just giving me every single hour. I gave him every out to like, the way you shoot a scene, like if I was shooting a scene with you right now, they would shoot your coverage over my shoulder then they'd shoot my coverage over yours. I got a man that looked just like Brad from behind wearing the exact same clothing that Brad would wear

and I gave Brad every out, like you don't have to wait around at 3 a.m. to shoot my coverage. And he was like, I would never go. What a G. Oh my gosh. He was assaulted at the question. I can't love him enough, man.

That's a tremendous person. But truly, I've never felt like I made it more. Brad Pitt is the LeBron Michael Jordan of film. And for him to, and like I'm sitting with him on set and I'm giving him like direction and he's respecting my opinion and believing in my vision. There's nothing more gratifying as a filmmaker like ever. I couldn't believe it.

I'm thrilled. I'm so thankful. I love you, Brad. Us too. Yeah, me too. We second that. Well, you've been joined by all sorts of incredible guests I love you, Brad. Us too. Yeah, me too, me too, we second that. Well, you've been joined by all sorts of incredible guests on the show, Brad Pitt obviously, then Drake,

had his unbelievable appearance, Usher, Rachel McAdams, Don Cheadle, Kevin Hart, the list just goes on and on. I mean, which one were you most surprised you could get them on the show or on set? Rachel McAdams was- I just wanted to say, that was the one that was like most surprised, you could like get them on the show or on set? Rachel McAdams was. I just wanted to say that was the one that was the most shocking.

Yeah. I don't know why, it just like, I don't, you don't see your dude like stuff like that, I feel like, often. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen that, right? And she falls into that same category, like when we grew up, like who is like the leading woman

in all the movies that like developed our thoughts of love. It's truly Rachel McAdams, you know, and for her the leading woman in all the movies that developed our thoughts of love? It's truly Rachel McAdams, you know? And for her to be a fan of the show, come on, again, not like a scene in a bar saying hi, she's a three episode arc. I'd say Rachel, but like, you know, I mean, there are certain things that I'm like, man, like, I'm so happy I'm getting Don Cheadle to fart three times. So fucking cool. Yeah? I'm getting Don Cheadle to fart every time. So fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Are you more starstruck by, like, a Philadelphia legend in the sports world or, like, an entertainer? Why are you looking over here? I was just asking. If you're asking if I'm more starstruck when I saw him compared to, like, Usher, I was Usher. Yeah. It's true. But I didn't, I get it, I get it.

You're also, you're a weird professional athlete to me where I find you so incredibly relatable, you know what I mean? In a way like, I think I would be really starstruck by Allen Iverson, you know what I mean? But like there's something about you that I feel like I've been your best friend our whole life or something. Yeah. And I felt that way as like a younger guy watching you And I think that's one of the reasons Philadelphia probably loves you so much because you really feel like one of the people yeah I appreciate that it's not even a good thing. I don't know why that is right

You just come off like unathletic and sloppy. Why thank you, I'm trying really hard for that. Yeah. Yeah, fans know that a lot of your show Dave is based around your actual life. How much of Dave is a reality and how much have you kind of like tweaked in terms of the fiction? It felt like season one for sure.

Yeah, that's where really. Well, how about this, I'll let you answer the question. Please! You guys really do relate. I'll tell you why. I've known him for five minutes. Season one was definitely the most true to his soul. Uh, it's hard to quantify. Like, I'll say this.

A lot is certainly really from my life. But a lot is, like, there are stories. You know, I have a whole writer's room of people who've lived similar lives or had their own experiences and we pull from their lives or we just make things up because sometimes the funniest thing to do is to make up Don Cheadle farting in a bathroom at the Met Gala.

I've never actually been to the Met Gala. In a way, my character on the show has actually surpassed me in real life as far as achievement, which is kind of a bummer. But I think it's because I take so much time making the show that it's that but regardless I think that as time goes on I like to experiment more and like sure I think I entered the show not even knowing the type of mark I wanted to make like as a TV film movie guy I wanted to make like as a TV film movie guy

And it's just evolved to a place where I care so much about filmmaking and like being a true like director and filmmaker To the point where like now I look at Dave as like an opportunity because every episode can be its own thing I could be like, why don't I make this a horror episode? Yeah, I'm like totally see what what it's like to make a like a mini horror movie And then why don't I make a psychological thriller with like Brad Pitt and hostage with a gun. Things can get a little more like unrealistic when I'm like experimenting in genres like this. But I think that's my-

When did film get in to play here? Were you always into like directing and- I didn't know I'd be like a director at heart, but I always loved movies. And when I thought about my life, I definitely thought I wanna be like a director at heart, but I always loved movies. And when I thought about my life, I definitely thought I wanna be the next great comedian. And when I imagined what that looked like, I never imagined myself on standup stage with a mic.

You never imagined Gino? Never, no. Never Santino? Like SNL or anything? I loved and respected standup. Oh, it's the best. For whatever reason, I just saw Adam Sandler and Happy Gilmore or Will Ferrell,

and I'm just seeing all these, there's this murderer's row of comedians that when I was a kid and when you guys were kids, R-rated comedies were the thing that drove everyone's attention. And I just thought those guys never were anything other than everyone's funny friend when they were my age. And I was like, I can do this.

So I answered just without knowing, but then as I did it, I surprisingly started caring so much about like tone and aesthetic and like I can't even like a scene now. Like when you talk about season one, there are a lot of the funniest things from this show in season one, but I also think there are a lot of the worst looking scenes.

Like just visually. Now I don't think people necessarily give too much of a shit about that. But you do. But I do and I only am caring more and more and more to where. Nice. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

I just like the art of. Is that the same way in music as well? Where you look back. Probably in a different way. Like yes, I definitely look back at all my own music and I'm like, what was I thinking? I suck. Like I'm a loser and I.

I do that about my game films too to be honest. I was about to say the exact same thing. Okay, good. Like I'm a loser and I do that about my game film. I'll watch myself and just be like, God damn it. I'm gonna get fucking cut. Why was I doing that? Like, why was I putting my hand there? It's so stupid. Yeah, I mean with me with music, like I was oftentimes early in my career

trying to just like say something outrageously funny to get like a laugh and like really was like driving my song topics around like viral comedy like moments. Whereas now, like if I can make a song without being funny that I like, I'm probably even more proud of that than a funny song. But still, as you guys can probably tell, if we hung out, I try to make you laugh all the time. It's just who I am as a person. So I think I'm always going to have comedy infused in what I do.

I'm not gonna just ever be like a stone cold like depressing drama guy. But I think when I came into it, I was like, I wanna make Superbad, which is like definitely a top three favorite movie of all time for me. So fucking good. But now I think like I wanna make The Social Network. Okay, nice.

Which is also a top three movie of all time for me. Yeah. They're both so good. Or maybe a hybrid between the both of them. That'd be kind of the sweet spot that I'd look to hit. That's dope. I just mentioned Santino, my favorite comedian out right now. So funny. What I heard of you is on the show,

I fucking got real jacked up. We've been trying to get him on the show, he's been kind of a big time, and this is whatever. He's got a lot of things, he's got a lot of movies out right now. He's still doing standup, which he's the best at. Playing nine. Yeah, I've played more golf with him. Yeah.

I mean, I get it. You gotta keep that swing active, baby. Yeah. You think he's dodging us at this point? Maybe. Just threw it on Dave. I think he's so, he really is always, every time I show him, he's like,

oh yeah, I'm in Albuquerque, I'll be back. He's always somewhere. He really is all over the world. He loves touring and being out there and hitting the road, but I'll never forget when I met him in an audition room. I didn't even know about him until I sat in the room early when I made the show, I was in all the callbacks. And he just wooed you, didn't he?

He just came in there, no competition. Never was there a more clear-cut choice of this guy that was supposed to be my best friend manager character. I fell in love with him instantly, so funny. And I threw everything, I like, you know, really, in my show, I would do a lot of improv. I think the funniest, not only the funniest,

but kind of the realest and most soulful, organic moments can occur if you really are being off the cuff and there can be a sentiment that we're obviously going for but it's gonna be better if we say it in different ways every time because it'll be more truthful to the moment. So in the audition process I like to really throw things at people that aren't on script and that guy did not miss a beat.

Oh yeah, that's the specialty right there. He's the only person that makes me break. Where I'm trying to do a scene and he says something and I'll ruin the scene because I'm not. He's so funny. One of my favorites. All right, well Santino, I will keep begging you to come on the show.

Did you get on his? Whiskey ginger, baby, you know it. You were on it? Oh yeah. Okay, then I don't know what you're doing. Yeah, I wore really short shorts and my nuts were showing the entire time. It was a fun interview because I got the hang with Cheeto for a little bit

Yeah, so I'll probably play around the golf before you come on here So we'll just talk about it when we're at Lakeside, baby. You're making him seem so unattainable. I don't know I'm not sure he deserves this level of unattainability After the first season a day premiered though LeBron publicly endorsed the show on Twitter how I mean how fucking cool is that? I Keep I feel like I've said too many times this interview like the coolest thing that's ever happened to me But really I I gotta be honest I Swear to God like a part of me like evaluates my life pre and post LeBron

Reaching out. I'm like I swear to God and post LeBron reaching out. I swear to God. I've never, that was the moment. I always, it's so lame. I can't believe I am this way. You shouldn't be this way. But I always said, like, none of this is even successful until LeBron acknowledges.

I would go to games, I would seek his gaze. You know, I would get nothing. And when he like, you know, I would get nothing. Dude's the best. And when he publicly tweets about it, I look at my DM, there's like this, he's like, hey man, like the back and forth motivating each other. I don't know if I motivated him, but like. But maybe I did, but like for LeBron James to sit and watch a series about my life,

there's no, I mean that guy, I have so much, I told you guys that I have so much respect from afar, but that guy, like the expectations that. You know what this Ohio guy is man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I guess so, I guess so. There's just something about him that is like, anyone that dislikes LeBron James is such a loser.

I'm with you on that, I'm with you on that. I mean, I can answer the same. All he does is do the right thing. We felt the exact same way he tweeted at us. I saw that. And as I'm coming off of the practice field, I'm like a schoolgirl with like, somebody has some hot gossip. Like, hey, do you know that the hottest guy in the world thinks you're sexy?

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Yeah, honestly, I'm Z fuck. He was like a Russian poet. I believe okay, and I don't know why I did it I just like delivered it via rap and it just really went over well I got like a great I got an a got an a and then I kind of thing I've ever done Yeah, I kind of like kept that in the back of my head. I've always loved creative writing or whatever, and then when I graduated college, for example, I had to do another boring report. Some karate, right?

Yep, thank you. I wasn't gonna say it, but. I was gonna ask. Top of the class. But I got this job at an ad agency, and I wasn't even in the creative department. I was actually in the administrative business side of it and I had to do this really boring report on chip sales

because I was on the Doritos account. But it was my one time where I sent an email to the partners at the company and I was like, a young ambitious guy trying to get noticed in this ad agency. So I delivered, instead of it being a word document about the data, I just delivered it as a rap. And they went crazy at my ad and switched me.

What is up with these fucking E-U-N emails, man? Yeah. Jeez, man, very good. I'm very good. I'm very good. That's true. I'm very good over emails. I didn't know emails work like this.

They work really well for me. I haven't been answering any of them. Yeah. And then I just saw, I just saw, like I literally saw, you know, like everyone freak out about this funny comedy rap about like chip sale data. And I always wanted to be a comedian as I told you guys, and I was like, wait a minute, like why don't I, you know,

if people are loving this boring data driven rap, like why don't I actually take my good comedic ideas and rap, like at the time there was only like the Lonely Island Andy Sandberg guys. And I was like look at, they've got no competition. They're so wild. Weird Al Yankovitch was childhood. But he was really past his prime at this point.

Yeah. I love Weird Al. Was he ever, was he kind of motivation? Weird Al was definitely, for sure, I loved Weird Al. I loved Weird Al. For sure. But love weird out. I loved weird out for sure But I was paradise. Oh my god, there was like five Eat it was great. He was really impressive. He had a great run I you know

I was then that's when I started doing the the funny comedy raps and that's what really took off for me and got me Noticed in a song of yours and in your show, Dave, you start your rap career with your bar mitzvah money. Is that it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's an actual story. Yes. Oh, my god.

That is so dope. Yeah, I got, I think it was like six grand, which is amazing. Like at 13 years old that I was never allowed to touch. And then I was like 24. And I still, I don't know how the, I don't think I had like access, I don't even know how my accounts worked at that.

You know what I mean? So I called my parents and I was like, you know. I have access to this? I was like, do I have access? When did I get to touch this? And they were like, no, you can't spend it. And I was like, why? And they were like, you're saving that money for a reason.

And I was like, for what? I was like, what I was like What my two options are this I can spend that money on like a really nice sofa? From like my next apartment or I can like pursue my dreams. Yeah, and I should wait to sell it Yeah, it worked. It worked. I got access to the account I got the funds sent over to me and then what I did was I found like the guy who was doing all the rap videos in Oakland, Brian Storm, and we made six different $1,000 videos.

And they were all really great. And it was my first time doing anything with a camera, and we just winged it and figured it out, and it was so fun. And then those really succeeded immediately. And then I did a Kickstarter to raise $113,000. Yeah, what I did was I accumulated enough online assets. What I did was like, I for two years,

slaved away at like made videos, made more raps. And then- Dude, your shoe doll, you were selling shoes out of the back of a van. I was. This is sweet. And I didn't even show anybody because I didn't want anyone to deflate my hope.

Sure. I was just like, I believe that I'm like the next Kanye. Let me just roll with that attitude. Yeah. Because it's going to be helpful as I get things done. And I worked really hard, didn't put things out when they were done. I saved it because I thought like the best way to roll this out is like to have like some sort of system where everyone knows when to check for you.

It's same with you guys right now. You see how it works. Like consistency is key. Yeah. So I built up up five months of material all while working at this ad. I wrote all my raps in my cube. And really, people actually stopped giving me work.

Yeah, it sounds like you weren't working. I wasn't really working. Like, I caught a real nice wave. Good vibes will keep you alive. I was there early though. I was there early and I was there late. Just like in one good email a day. That's all I got.

Yeah. Yeah. I would here. That's all I got. Yeah. I would write these, I would write these raps and then I put, I created all the content. Then once a week I'd put stuff out. Luckily for me, the first day I put anything out, the thing got like a million and a half views. Which was a dream because I had this,

I was about to start putting it out every- The first day. First day. This is legendary. Such an I told you so moment. Like, my parents on the record pulled me aside and said like we just want to sit down and have this conversation

that we think you are making a huge mistake. Oh no. And we think you're throwing away your career and you're putting this material out about like your dick and like you have a job, it's a good job, and you're gonna ruin your life. And so just day one to be like. You're like copy, send. day two. I'm not kidding.

TMZ hit me up and I did an interview from my cube with that guy, Harvey or whatever. I don't know. That's wild. And then next week, a new one, next week, a new one. Then I ran out of money and material, but it was five months straight of like the best I had to offer. I accumulated a fan base of like, I don't know, probably like a hundred thousand people. I said, I want to offer, I accumulated a fan base of like, I don't know, probably like 100,000 people. I said, I wanna do a Kickstarter, 3,000 of those people donated,

and then they donated like an average of $40, and then I made like 113 grand. Holy cow. And then I funded my tour, I got like Snoop Dogg on a song. That's like how I was able to like make the first legitimate like non-internet stuff. Dude, you were fucking hustling, man. I was. This is so cool. Thank you. Well,. Dude, you were fucking hustling, man. I was.

This is so cool. Thank you. Well, obviously we know you were musically gifted, even back in high school. Did you also play, just like Jason, Jason was a very musically gifted high school kid. He was in the marching band and he played running back, both.

I was not in the marching band. What was your instrument? Saxophone. Huh? Baritone sax. You still let it rip? You played the flute too. I have played the flute, both the skin and the metal.

Talk to them. I'm sure you guys both played the recorder. You know the recorder? Yes, that's what we started on. So in our- The hot cross buns? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In our school district, you started on the recorder,

I think in third grade, and then fourth grade, you started with everybody had to have an instrument. It was a super liberal artsy like community. And I picked alto sax and stayed with it through high school, loved every second of it. Went to college, it was like, nobody's going to want to hear me play saxophone in the dorm. So I started playing guitar. And I've still like kept involved in music, but not, I used to mess around with Fruity Loops and try and make beats and like stuff like that. And I was terrible at kept involved in music, but not. I used to mess around with Fruity Loops and try and make beats and like stuff like that.

Yeah. And I was terrible at it. So I stopped. So the Christmas album thing must be so thrilling to you. It's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Get in a studio to see what real musicians actually do for a living. It's been truly incredible. I'm a fan of watching anybody who's an expert in their field or like the best of what they do or they've been doing it for their whole lives. Like it's just so humbling to see somebody

who's put so much work and dedication and mastered their craft. I could watch somebody, like if you're the best at putting up sheet rock, it's gonna mesmerize me. Like it's like how incredible you've done this and put the hours in that you're the best in the world with this.

And on that music album. From sheet rocker to alto saxer. We're gonna make some swords here eventually. Yeah. We're gonna forge some swords. Or knives, whatever. This is going down a very long, allegedly, we'll figure it out.

I don't know that we can go straight to swords. I'll get back to the actual question. So he played in the marching band, and he was running back. Were you also musically gifted and played running back? I didn't play running back. I played, first off, I played the drums in the ninth grade band, but I didn't know how to read music.

So all I could do- Just feel? Just by ear? Like, yeah, like, which is, you know, but then I had, but I didn't let, I try, I, you know, it was not a good look to be that way. So I like had to work really hard to memorize it to seem like I knew, but like if they changed anything, which they never did, but if they did, it was always very stressful. Are you sure you're not just stealing this

from the movie Drumline? That sounds exactly like the plot of Drumline. Very good. I was a lot like that guy. And I was the captain of the best tennis team in the history of Charlton M High School. Ooh, tennis. Three-year captain.

So this is why you're bringing up pickleball earlier. Let's fucking go! Yeah, yeah, yeah. You think pickleball is like a joke. I don't think it's a joke. I wish I was a ball. I've played like three times and I'm just like not nearly as good as I should be. Okay. So it just frustrates me as a good tennis player to get out there and like, you know,

lose to these guys that just play pickleball too much. Do you take anything from your tennis? That can get infuriating. Yeah. Do you take anything from your tennis... That can get infuriating. Yeah. Do you take anything from your time in tennis and apply it to what you do now? Yeah, I think I always... So, I had the warrior spirit.

Like, I'm telling you, when I was... I could be down 5-1 game point, and I really believed. And I like... I came back so many times, and I truly was like the most, the way I play tennis, I'm not that good. I was the second best player in my high school, purely out of effort, heart, and I was a pusher.

I never made mistakes. All heart. Yeah. What is a pusher? So in tennis, like, you know, you got guys who can rip it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And some guys really look good when they're warming up,

but then you get them in a game and they just can't make more than three shots in a row. I will never make a mistake I will never do anything that looks that impressive. Yeah, but I will make zero unforced errors I will get to every ball and I'll really be like just an absolute pesk Yeah, and I talked a lot of shit back then to No one no one I'm happy we're talking about this because my tennis team deserves this platform. Hell yeah. Nobody.

This is why we're here. This is why New Heights is the show. This is a perfect New Heights topic. My tennis team behaved in a way very similar to Happy Gilmore the way he played golf where we were disruptors. And we were really like not that great at tennis but we all were really good athletes with really good hearts and we were all like really funny

Yeah, and we would like do like one thing I would do I'll show you so basically can I stand or am I gonna stand? We open this camera up a little bit all right, so I'm receiving can you hear me everybody yeah, I'm receiving the serve and The guys there another South Corps and these guys I'm playing the can you hear me everybody? Yeah? I'm receiving the serve. And the guys there, another South Corps, and these guys, I'm playing the second best kid in every school. They're usually like guys who are like tennis lifers, who like really are burnout from tennis, it's all they care about.

I don't play that much, like it's not a big part of my life, but like I'm a winner, I'm there to win. And so they're bouncing the ball, they go up and right as the ball's in the air, I would be like, and I would go and like do so loud. And then they would like fall. You baseballed them? Yeah.

You psyched them to do that? And then they would be like, they'd be like, what was that? And I'd be like, what was what? What was the split step, half step before a serve? Like, that's what I do. Yeah. And then like, you know, in between games.

I love this. I love this so much. This is Jason my entire childhood. Cornhole, you play cornhole? Yeah. You just walk down the board every time the guy's running there. You know, in between games with tennis, you'll, I feel like I've lost control of the mic. It has a mind of its own.

Yeah. Okay. In between games, you switch every odd game. Yeah. And the guy will sit on the bench bench and I would just go sit right next to the guy and be like, man. I would say things like, man, I know that you're better than me and I know that you know that you're better than me.

But I feel like at the end of the day, I'm probably going to win this. I would say things like that to them. And it really had a, as the captain, it had like a trickle-down effect. And like all of us, like we chat. First up, how's it going over there? I'd be like, oh, we're fucking killing it. And we like did this, we overachieved in a way that doesn't, like we finished top eight in the state. I say top five, I am rounding up.

We were top eight, we got smoked in the quarterfinals. Every one of us was completely outmatched. This is so good. This has to find its way. Yeah, Sheldon Ham tennis team, we had our, this is it. We need a photo, we need a photo of the Sheldon Ham tennis team. Yeah, I'll get you one. This is so legendary, man.

Thank you for taking us on that journey. Yeah. Who was your favorite tennis player growing up? I love Federer. Federer, I was an Augusty guy. Yeah, I mean. You were more of an Augusty player, it sounds like for sure. Yeah, just an American rebel just return everything Federer was a class back over the net. It's crazy cuz with tennis too

It's just you feel like we like it's interesting that Federer came up. We're like, oh my god That's Michael Jordan of tennis and then right after him the dog came. We're like, oh my god, that's Michael Jordan And then John, which came we're like, oh my God, that's Michael Jordan. And then Djokovic came, we're like, oh. Like back to back to back, like boom, boom, boom. It was really interesting. Nice, so you're like. The one that was gonna be the next Lebron, he kind of fizzled out.

Who? The dog. What? The dog didn't fizzle out. No, he did not. He didn't? No. He just got beat by Djokovic.

He's the king of clay. Maybe one like 19 or 21 or something. He was all right. He did all right, he did good. He's definitely top five all the time. Top didn't? No. He just got beat by Stokovic? He's the king of clay. Maybe he won like 19 or 21 or something. He was up. He did all right. He did good. He's definitely top five all the time. Top three all the time probably. I think top three.

I think those three are like top three. All right, so he's... Where were we? Magic Johnson. All right, here we go. We always like to ask our guests their welcome to the NFL moment, welcome to the NBA moment, whatever their field is.

What is your welcome to the industry moment? Another story I've never told that just came into my head that's perfect for this moment. Oh, my gosh. Celebrity basketball game. Ooh. Wait, where? I don't know where I'm at.

We need to know more. Somewhere in LA and much earlier in my career than I deserve to be. Like, when I looked at the lineup, it was like Floyd Mayweather, Snoop Dogg, Chris Brown, like John Wall. It was like stacked. And I had no mainstream. I had like a couple of viral. I don't know how I got in the game to the point where I actually put a lot of stock and import in this game that I got there an hour early to warm up because I literally

thought like a way that I could like get ahead in this like industry faster will be like scoring 30 points in this game and really down. It's like I literally went there because I was like, this is a big opportunity. To like advance my career. This is my chance. And I am a good.

If I can somehow dunk on Snoop Dogg. And I've seen so many celeb games where I'm like, these guys suck, you know. And so I was excited to go there and really, you know. And a few things happened. One, I'm there warming up by myself and Chris Brown walks in. First time I ever saw Chris Brown.

And so I'm like blown away by like just seeing him. He walks right up to me and he goes, you're a dope rapper. And I was like, and it was so early in my career, I would never expect him to know who I am and like to have like an icon in the music industry who has countless number, it's just him saying that to me meant everything. That was the impetus of Freaky Friday, us meeting there.

That's step one. That's the least important part of the story. Then we play, the game starts, I'm not in the starting lineup, nowhere close. It's the people I named. My coach is John Wall. The way he starting lineup, nowhere close. It's like, you know, it's the people I named. My coach is John Wall. The way he- The coach.

The way he, well, not actually. Because- The way John Wall went about operating his team was he did five in, five out. So he had starting five, then he just- So complete subs. Yeah, so I'm in the next five. He says, he tells me grab Chris,

Chris Brown. So I go up to, by the way, every time Chris Brown touches the ball in this game, no, it's just like, ah, it's just like squeaking, it's like, it's like, every time he touches the ball, it's like when people boo in Philly when they come back, like when Harden gets the ball, it was like the opposite of that.

So I'm told to get Chris Brown, so I walk up to Chris and I go like, yo, I'm in for you. And he goes, I'm not coming out. That's awkward. And then there's 11 guys on the court. Everyone is like matched up, like I'm clearly the odd man.

I look to John Wall. Can you help? It's like coach, coach, like, and I look to John Wall Did you know? For direction. Coach like and he goes John Wall goes like and he brings me back over. First thing I say is like John like get a grip and like have some like authority on the team. It's just like humiliating to like send me out there and then pull me back in.

It's like so emasculating. This is so good. And then they're playing and then I get in like the emasculating. This is so good. And then they're playing, and then I get in, like the next five or whatever. I get in the game. I get in the game. I get the ball. I drive aggressively.

I go up. I get to the rim. I get fouled so hard by Deontay Wilder that at the time, the heavyweight champion of the world. The bro has a bobber. Dude, like everyone went like, the whole gym went like, because I thought like I really got hurt. I didn't hurt that much. I took it. In the moment of it, oh my gosh. I get up, I missed two free throws and then I play one more meaningless minute and then

I just didn't even, I like moved to the end of the bench and just chose not to even make myself available for the rest of the game. But that was a real, like there was like several different moments in there that felt like, welcome to the industry. That was like the first time I think I ever like, was on like Getty Images. You know what I mean?

When it was like, watermarked images of like me talking to Snoop. Like. So good. Yeah. That's amazing. Let's get to your Philly fandom. You're known as a Philly sports fan Snoop. Like. So good. Yeah. It's amazing. Let's get to your Philly fandom.

You're known as a Philly sports fan, obviously. Yeah, huge. You quoted as saying, I care so much about Philadelphia sports. It's to a level that's unhealthy. Yeah. What's the one team, if you had to choose all of the major ones? I can't choose between the Sixers and the Eagles. It's definitely those two.

I knew it was going to be one of the, I thought you were going to go to the Eagles. I'm not going to lie. I can't choose. I relate to basketball. I relate to basketball more, but like, I don't know. That's what I was saying, I was telling you, it has to be the Sixers. I just feel like Philly is such a Eagles town. It's a Sixers town too, but it's definitely Eagles more.

I really feel like I love them both evenly. And I love the NBA as much as I love the NFL. I just love, I mean, I love the once a week build up of a game, I really love that. But I also love, I love in baseball how they're playing every night at seven. You know what I mean? But there's definitely a drop off for me

with baseball and hockey. But as far as Sixers and Eagles, I've tried to become less unhealthily obsessed to the point where you lose a playoff game and my week is fully ruined. To now I can, as an adult, stomach things. But like when I think of the best night of my life, it's when you won the Super Bowl. 2017 season 18. Yeah, best night of my life was like-

Like every Philly sports fan. I turned down tickets to that game in Minnesota so I could go home and watch it with my like Cheltenham high school fans. So then we could all go out afterwards. Yeah. Oh, I went on Instagram live. I didn't climb the place.

I observed people climbing the poles. I saw I saw my own two eyes. So that is my one. That's what my one great regret is that we couldn't be on Broad Street after the game as players. And my great regret is I had to leave town like a day after and I missed the parade. Oh. So I never got to have that with you.

Well, you have a video of it. You have a video of it. Yeah. Video, video, video of it. Well, there is a viral clip of you wearing a Sixers jacket courts side at the 2016 NBA Finals. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. What a seat.

Yeah. Crazy. We talk about this all the time, best ticket in sports. It's the best ticket in sports. That is courtside, yeah. Courtside at an NBA game. Now I can't not sit courtside.

It ruins it. It ruins it. Like the other day, I was offered third row, like the dream, and I'm just like, I don't know if I can stomach it. But no, dude, sitting courtside and my seat was, it was like warrior's bench and then like 12th man, like most spates and then me.

Like, you know what I mean? It was like right and like that was the three one comeback LeBron blocking cut. Like blocking a Guadala. Like I was in the building for that game. You're speaking to my heart. It was, and like, it was really intense. It was an awesome, it was, but honestly, as building for that game. You're speaking to my heart. It was and like it was really intense. It was an awesome, but honestly, as great as that game was, not the best sporting event

I've ever been to. I was at Kobe's last game where he scored 60 points. I was like in Nebraska the morning of the game and spontaneously I was like, we got to go. And I like brought two of my friends, we- Had you met Kobe? Not courtside to that camp. Yeah, well.

Spent $10,000 of my own money and got like real middle of the pack seats. But dude, Kobe scored 60. That's electric. Every shot he hit in the fourth was insane. They were like down 10 with like two, it wasn't like a meaningless 60, it was really a crucial 60, it was crazy.

It was nuts. It was awesome. Is Kobe the most iconic Philadelphia native sports figure? Native. Well, I feel, yeah. How can it be more iconic than Kobe? Yeah. Um, Frazier. Wasn't he from? Was he from? Yeah. I think he was. Rocky, a fictional character.

So we argue about this all the time. He hates that a fictional character is like the focal point of the city. I don't hate it, I don't hate it. You have said you made fun of this. I've ran up and down the museum steps, have you? No, you haven't. I don't know if I, yeah, I have not. I'm more into it than he is, to be honest. I don't really run up and down steps.

That's not my thing. I don't blame you, I hate all of Cardio. I'm not like the biggest Rocky guy. Like I wish Rocky was a real man. We just, I mean you just saw us, Schwarzenegger leave this thing. Yeah that was like. You should have told him like.

I didn't even feel comfortable even approaching him. I let him walk right by. Honestly the most intense interview of all time. But Iverson, like totally, like there are a few people who shaped, like I'm 13 years old, Alan Iverson's in the NBA finals, he's putting out rap albums, like I really 13 years old, Allen Iverson's in the NBA finals, he's putting out rap albums, like I really think he really impacted

what I define cool as. Yeah, sure. 100%. Absolutely. We just had Saquon on and he talked about how tough it is playing in front of Eagles fans as an opposing player. What do you think makes Philly fans so different?

Well, they're certainly an aggression. Yeah. There's certainly in aggression. They're certainly in aggression level. Look, I love Philly, being from Philly, Philadelphia, sports fans. There are definitely times where I'm like, that's too much. Like when I'm going to like a game with my uncle, who's like a Patriots fan,

and he's like wearing a Patriots hat, and they're like, fuck you fucking pussy. And I'm just like, it's just unnecessary. But I do love it, I do love it deep down. I think it sets the tone. I agree, I wish I didn't agree, I love it. There's like an anger. I got adopted into it for 13 years

and I fucking loved every second of it. Yeah, I mean they care. Where do you think that anger comes from? Just from the generational. I think it's a blue collar town. I think that there's merit to it being like the understudy of New York City and like you know it's like kind of like

just this blue collar, like hard working, you know you're gonna get what you get if you work hard for it type of thing. And I think it's also been like this way forever that it's like exponentially become its own folklore to now. Sure, like now it's a thing. If you're not like that, you're not a great pussy. Yeah, exactly.

But I do, there's a higher level of care and there's a higher level of knowledge. Now there are some like just completely ignorant takes like that come but there is a higher level of baseline knowledge in Philadelphia. But at times those are the best. I think that, yeah, unfortunately those higher like bad takes are the ones that get all the notoriety. Like in general though, the like average fan is just like incredible. They're locked in.

They're locked in like, I know so much about sports and it's because I'm from Philly. Yeah. Well, you threw out the first pitch at the Phillies game last season. Jason just did opening day this year. Not opening, Charlie Manuel did opening day. He texted me advice, he said, Jason, I'm 80 years old,

I had a stroke and I threw a strike today. And I was like, oh, all right, no pressure. He must've seen my opening day pitch in Cleveland last year where I fucking spiked it. He spiked it. He tried to throw it as hard as he could. I didn't practice. You didn't throw it? I fucking spiked it. He spiked it. He tried to throw it as hard as he could. I didn't practice. You didn't throw it or?

I threw it for sure. It was me and Fletch though, so it wasn't over the plate. Yeah, we shared the- Double arm? That's right. Yeah. So, boy it's so loud. Wait, how did your throw go?

I didn't see it. It was good, I mean it was caught. So, for me that's a win. Off a hop? No, no hop. I threw an O2 slider, have you seen mine? No. Mine, mine- Back door? It's a really, have you seen mine? No. Mine, mine.

Back door? It's a really, it's. Did it go off the? It was exactly where I wanted it to be. It was totally where I wanted it to be. I threw an O2 away slider, Jamie Moore was probably like 45 miles an hour. That thing really slid.

It really took its time. It's one of those that you're trying to hit the dirt so that you can get him to chase you. Yeah, I'm not gonna throw it right down the pipe. Yeah, right. I just wanted to show, because I just I'm not gonna throw right down the pipe. Yeah, right. I just wanted to show, because I just really wanted to showcase my, just the movement.

The movement. Yeah. Dude, that high leg kick right there, that is a. It's a really good point. There's audio too, if you wanna fix audio. I go, ah! You gotta get it out there? Yeah, I didn't think I would make any audio.

To get 45 miles per hour? I didn't know what noise that was. It was further, it was further away than you think. It is much further than you think. I know. And it's hard to really get good grip when you have tennis shoes on, on that. I'm making excuses.

On that rubber. Yeah, I didn't have the grip issue, but his foot definitely slipped. I think it's because he wears the fancier shoes that don't have, they're not built for function. I wore hoopin' shoes out there. Next time, I'll make the right decision. Yeah.

What's your all time favorite Philly sports moment, and you can't say Super Bowl 52 because you just said it, and I have to ask you a question. That's fine, because it's actually not. I mean, that is the best, it probably is, but the answer before that, that I've said my whole life, is Iverson stepping over to Ron Lue, game one of the NBA Finals.

Yeah, it was legendary. Like, the Lakers had not lost the whole playoff. I think there were 12 and 0 leading up to that. Real David versus Goliath matchup overtime. I felt like I was staying up late to watch it. You know what I mean? And it was just, you really believed that they were gonna win that series in that moment.

They then lost four straight. Yeah, I did. I was watching it like, this might be the only game they're going. Oh, okay. I really, I'm a tumbler. Yeah, I did. I was watching it like this might be the only game they're going to win. Oh, okay. I really. I'm a tumbo.

It's the diesel. Eric Snow got hurt, Matumbo. Eric Snow, Northeast Ohio guy, baby. He's chopped De'Kan McKinley. I just gotta give shout outs to Cleveland guys at all times. At all times. Yeah.

I don't blame, that's how I feel the same way about Philly whenever I see like an actor who's from Philly. Will Smith. Will Smith is a great Philadelphian. He reps it. He reps it. What's Philly whenever I see an actor who's from Philly. Will Smith, Will Smith is a great Philadelphian. Yeah. He wraps it. He wraps it. Was Philly.

All time. One of the best all time TV shows growing up. Yeah. Let alone music and maybe- It's definitely one of- I get jiggy with it all the fucking time. It might be my favorite TV show ever, The Fresh Prince. It really might be.

I'm with you. I was definitely Fresh Prince kid. Oh my gosh. Just talking the line from- Oh yeah. Yeah, the intro. Yeah, it was like, oh yeah. We actually had to pay money for that. Even though it wasn't in rhythm or melody or anything?

No, that's weird. Yeah, you had to pay money to use that, I think. That's my memory of it. Well, it sounds like Will did it right. Yeah. We got a discount. We got a discount. Oh nice.

The old Philly discount. Back in in 2017 a few Eagles players posted a video of themselves dancing to save that money No in the locker room and they extended an invite to you to come to practice, which I did not take Yeah, I wish I did just see these guys in the locker room like Posting a selfie video where there's like eight players like singing along to my rap song Just an unbelievable experience. It was you and a selfie video where there's like eight players like singing along to my rap song. Just an unbelievable experience. It was you and Dreams and Nightmares. Those were the two songs.

Crazy. Legendary. So legendary. And then you guys went on a, I mean, your speech, your speech is also up there with Iverson's Step Over. Don't put me up there with AI. Honestly, the joy that I got watching that speech. It is, it's up there.

Is, and it was so long, like it was so much joy, the length of the joy. There's no way he remembered half of that speech. Well, I still don't know how I remembered everything, to be honest with you. Yeah, I don't know either. Especially drinking all the way through. Were you very drunk?

I feel like I somehow, I feel't know either drinking all the way through. Wait, were you very drunk? I Don't I feel like I you didn't seem somehow I feel like I was dressed It's Dave you could see it in his eyes when you're being when you're around him around him enough You can see it in his eyes like yeah, that guy's gone. Yeah, I said fourth and down instead of fourth down No, but I think did you know you were gonna do that coming into the day? I did I was going to do that. I knew I wanted to do it like three days before it and I went to one of the guys in the like PR department and I'm like hey are we gonna like get a chance to talk and like I wasn't at that time, like one of the focal guys. It was surprising.

It was very surprising. That, but you may feel like it made that happen. Yeah, there was, I don't know that I would have gotten that if I wouldn't have went up and asked. Just in hindsight. That's nice and administrative work. Administrative work, good guys. But I told them like, I think I got,

I think I wanted to say something and they're like, okay. Well, we don't know, we'll tell you. And they told me a couple of days later like, hey, yeah, you're gonna get a chance to talk. And like gave everybody a chance. So there's a lot of people Yeah spoke, but um, I would like be awake till 3 4 a.m not sleeping like going in my head like different narratives of like first of all myself getting to the screwball and winning it and how crazy that was and then Like how like how many things you overcome.

And then you start thinking about everything your teammates did. Like Nick Foles was just like a backup quarterback comes out here, wins the Super Bowl. Like all these things are going through your head and you're going teammate after teammate after coach after coach. I mean, how he rose and was in a different part of the building. And it's like all these things are building up and you see the correlation completely with the city of Philadelphia and how they had been so close multiple times when in the city I had to overcome so much to get there

So I think that's why I remembered it because it was like it was so vividly Entrenched of my own story come on my teammates come out with the city. It was perfect It really felt like you were from Philadelphia, but I think where you're from is probably very similar in like. We were just talking about this the other day. I think they share similarities. But Philly obviously being kind of more East Coast, they got a little bit more of the aggressive nature. Especially in the sports world.

Cleveland fans, I mean it is blue collar in sports town as it gets too. Yeah. I mean it helped drive our, yeah it helped. There are like, I don't know that any man has made me cry in the last like five years more than you. I can think of three off the top of my head. That speech, your documentary, your retirement speech.

Off the top of my head there's probably more that I was not thinking of. Have you ever seen? I've cried watching, I cry when you guys start getting on your podcast, like when you start, it makes me cry instantly. That's four. Have you ever, have you seen more men cry publicly

than us do? No. We're the only fucking guys out here trying to. It is on that, it's a lot of crying. After we won the Super Bowl, you posted a screenshot of a text from my man, Lane Johnson. Yeah. We'll show that there. Yeah, did you text anybody else? You know, anybody else on the team? How did you know Lane? I think I guess let's start there Evan Mathis, you know Evan. Yeah

But no is a very loose term like this is like, you know your Twitter DM and like, you know, but that's good And even Lane, I haven't really gotten to spend any time with him the way I want to So but you just you know, I think that I don't know who it is It's probably me or it could be them but someone reaches out to the other and the other one's excited and then we just talk and Really not that surprising like I say like the it's cool to like be at a party and like meet like I don't know I haven't even met him a bad bunny or something But like there's nothing cooler than like for me me having a direct line into Darrell Morey,

the GM of the 76ers, and be like, what are we thinking? You know? Like, so that type of, just being able to text a guy like the day of the Super Bowl or whatever, and he responds, I'm just like, I feel like I'm, just the true kid in me comes out. We love speaking things into existence on this show. That's right, 92%ers, earlier this year,

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Matter of fact, some say it can't be beat. As you know, we're in LA right now. How am I supposed to get this thing back to Philly? I mean, they shipped it here. I just figured they ship it to you after this. Anyone wanna send a truck? While you figure that out, I'll finish this ad read. Everyone has a reason why they've earned the right to relax.

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Time will tell time will tell the process when it happened. I was like, I love drew holiday So I was I was bummed to lose drew holiday That was the first domino of the process to fall was no lens to well said you a piece But I was for it. I thought it was the right thing to do. I thought it was innovative. I like love moneyball and I love like weird ways of thinking about like sports and like I don't think there's anything wrong with like being like Big in analytics, huh?

Yeah, exactly. What's wrong with being logical and being like why do I want to like try as hard as I can to be the eighth seed every year? Let's just suck for four years and be able to draft Joellen Bede. Like I think and you know, I think there are a few just flagrant mistakes along the way that are just unbearable. Like and I- Marshall? Which ones are you thinking of? Stan? To me the biggest mistake and is trading essentially Jason Tatum and a first round

pick for Mark Alpholtz. Marshall? Oh, okay. Marshall? That's gonna sting you forever. Stan? Mark Alpholtz is a good is a good player. I have trouble even disrespect. When I was a kid, I would talk shit about athletes, but becoming, I guess, a celebrity, I now have a different perspective on the pressures that you guys deal with,

and I'd like to talk about this for a second. Sure, let's talk about it. I think it's so crazy. The pressure I feel, just putting out a movie or something or a TV show, and I'm in control of like the edit. I'm like in so much control of like exactly what the finished product. You guys are just out there like having live moments that all you can do is like be in the moment and then like if you fail like you're called like weak hearted and like that's

so normalized. Like it's very like it's not even like considered that offensive for you to be in a stadium and be like fuck you You pussy like you have no heart unless you show no heart and then yeah Yeah, told that let's see that alligator Yeah, I mean I think so like I guess so what you just you know what I'm saying Dehumanization of athletes. I think that's fair. I think that's that's true, but I think at the end of the day, a lot of the times what you do on the court, like even if you're bad, you can still stop that

from being said. Narrative, yeah. You can, like if you can't catch a ball, you're gonna get, people are gonna say you suck, but they're not gonna call you soft and attack you. Yeah. There are some outlandish things, and I think people say all sorts of things when they're not gonna call you soft and attack you usually. There are some outlandish things. And I think people say all sorts of things when they're mad.

But the overall narrative at the end of the day, once you're done playing, like once the emotionality of the moment of the game is done. And this is why I try and remind players, because players get wrapped up in what's being said now. And it's like, dude, take out the equation, what's being said now. This is just the moment dude, take out the equation what's being said now.

This is just the moment, this is what the fans are gonna say in the moment because they're pissed. Like, just go out there and play your balls off and do the best you can and show you that you care. And like, if you don't win, they're still gonna probably hate you and think that you sucked,

but they'll at least respect you. I really do believe that. At the end of the day. The guys that do it the right way, they're idolized for a reason because you see the competitiveness, you see the heart, you see the passion. And then in those moments,

you see him be able to persevere or come out on top. And it's like, that's the beauty of fucking sports. There's a winner and loser in it. And that's why everybody watches that. To play devil's- Fans do cross the line, there's no question. And to it. That's why everybody watches that. To play devil's. Fans do cross a line, there's no question. And to play devil's advocate, not that he needs one, I think you boys are exceptional people, athletes,

and you think at a higher level, and you have a lot of self-awareness and confidence. And imagine being a high first-round pick and just being kind of a weird, insecure guy. No, and I think sometimes it's a crutch to be drafted high because the expectation that's layered on you is thick right from the get go. Especially if you aren't ready for that. Thick, real thick.

Super thick. The reality is we weren't there. It's a heavy layer. But back to the Markov Foltz thing you just said, right? I would hope that if he did hear that, it's not like it's an attack on necessarily, when you're thinking about like- He's bounce back, he's having a good NBA career.

I wanted them to draft Markle Foltz. I wasn't like, what are you doing? You gotta get Tatum. In retrospect, it's just that would have changed. That is what the process was trying to do, was get you Jason Tatum and Joel Embiid, and we just never quite got that other guy. And when you look at it in retrospect,

it's just like, this is what it was. It's not like I'm trying to crap on him. Like the reality was it didn't work out the way the plan was. Yeah. And there's reasons why guys don't pan out in certain places. And it's not always like that that guy isn't a good player. There's there's fits, there's schemes, there's all sorts of reasons why things don't pan out.

Yeah. So and now with the Sixers, we're in a tough, it's like they gambled with the Harden thing. I think they were right to move on. I think Harden is great, but I don't think that is a good fit. I don't even think that is a good fit of athlete in city, to be quite honest. I think that would have just been a ticking time bomb. Joellen Bede, when he's playing, and he's playing, he's never, the whole process, every single year in the playoffs, he's hurt.

He gets hurt like a week before, he gets his face broken, or he like, it's like the timing, it's truly been, it's been five straight years. Chris Paul had that kind of thing going along too. Some guys, and that's, in sports you have to be every bit as fortunate in terms of staying healthy that you do to have that success, man. And we've been unlucky in that regard.

That's why I'm just like, look, there's only like two weeks left of the regular season, and Bede has been hurt all year, sure, but maybe he's gonna be back in two weeks is the perfect amount of time to ramp up, get him right back to where he is, and maybe he got the injury out of the way this year, and we're gonna get a healthy Bede for the first time,

and I'm curious what that can equate to because I think he really is the stud. He's unreal. He's like unguardable. The most unguardable player. I watched Iverson and Joel is just a different level of unguardable. Dude, it's, I've never, the way he plays is great. Iverson was like, I love Iverson. I'm the biggest Iverson fan.

He wasn't the most efficient player in the world. Like he had to shoot a lot. And Bede, I mean just look at the stats, I love Iverson. And Bede is just like so efficient, so like and the way he does it is remarkable. Just the eye test of it all is like crazy. Yeah, all right.

Same with Iverson, the eye test of course. And I love Alan Iverson. Did you have Iverson's growing up? Did you have the questions, the answers? I never met Iverson, the eye test, of course. And I love it. I love Alan Iverson. Did you have Iverson's grown up? Yeah. The questions? Yeah. The answers? I never met Iverson either. It's as I was another celebrity basketball game. I rebounded and passed in the ball and he just accepted the ball. Just rebounded. Facilitating. You thought you were the ball boy?

Yeah. I acted like one. So I don't blame him. We're going to get to our segment. We got to ask, but you don't have to answer. All right Feel no pressure first question. Our fans have asked us to sign actual babies Travis Actually signed his first one chrome Parsons Haley let me sign that home dumb his yeah, what's the weirdest thing someone has asked you to sign? Uh, I mean I Signed a man's dick

Way I did I signed a man's dick. So when you said in the show like yeah I basically you know, I was like that's and I was like, you know when I was trying to sell the tickets I was like whatever I forget what studio but I was like, you know Sacramento like, you know, I was like, back then I was like, you know, when I was trying to sell the tickets, I was like, whatever, I forget what studio, but I was like, you know, Sacramento, like still a few tickets left, meet and greet, like I might sign someone's dick tonight, like blah, I said something funny like that. And so people were asking,

the guy eventually comes to the front and he goes like, yo, D, like, you for real about like signing dick? And I just like, like, I just wanted to see if this was actually about to happen. So, I said, I said if you unravel your dick and stretch it and place it on the table, I will sign that. I will sign with it. And he was no hesitation.

Zero hesitation. Zero hesitation. There's probably kids in the store, like I don't know who was there, it's probably like an all-ages show. He unraveled his dick, his medium-sized dick. Medium. His medium size. I remember being very, it wasn't that big,

it wasn't that small. It was very medium, it was normal. I didn't feel annoyed by it or it was easy to, I could find the place to sign easily. It was, and I signed this man's dick. Medium dick. Yeah. Can't call this bluff, baby. That's definitely. Can't call this bluff. That's dick. Could feed him dick. Yeah. Wow.

Can't call this bluff, baby. Yeah, that's definitely. Can't call this bluff. That's weirder than a baby. I think I'm the only rapper probably to ever sign a dick. Guaranteed, guaranteed. Well, let's not say that. It's positive.

Yeah, it's a good point. You never know. You never know. When you were on TNF, the shop, there's an info ball, this past season, you said if you were a woman you date Travis wait what this was said I don't know if you saw that I didn't see us. I'm just now. It's true. Yeah, dude. What you said this honored Yeah, so basically what was your logic?

What was your Like It was very early with you and Taylor and they were like I think it was the I don't know if they were talking about how they like cut to her, just they were talking about just the idea of you and her. And I was just like, I totally get it. I was like, if I were a woman, he's exactly who I would go.

I was like, there's no, first off, he's the best of all time at his position. One, he's like seemingly the nicest, sweetest, like kind of funniest, like most like classically cool guy in high school vibe and I just thought that you know, when you danced it really took my it took me. The way he danced like I forget I DM'd you immediately I was like this is crazy. Like whenever I saw you do the stanky leg for the first time I was like it's unreasonable

to be this talented. You've been working on that stanky Lake for years, baby. How can you dance so well, but you can't come close to doing that? Time out, I can't dance well? Did you not see my little Uzi Vert? I saw it. Yeah.

I'm right in between you two. I'm like dead in the middle. If you let me control the edit, I will look like you, because I catch pockets and moments of incredible grace, but if you're just leaving the camera running for the whole time, I'm really right in the middle. Yeah. Jason's got all the musical playing talents.

Yeah, I was seated playing my saxophone, Travis was up dancing. I must have been wise. Playing the trumpet is what I was doing. Yeah. All right now. Well, I'm honored. That's true, dude.

Who is your- You fucking deserve it. Who's on your Mount Rushmore of rappers turn actors? Well, I'm really thinking about it on the spot. Will Smith, Ice Cube. Ooh. Infiltrate the dealer, find the supply. Can we put Eminem in there?

With 8 Mile? For sure. 8 Mile, 100%. I just think he quarterbacks. It's your Mount Rushmore, dude think he quarterbacks a classic movie. Let's give him the credit. Fair enough. I feel like I'm probably missing someone incredible. First off, I think Tupac would have been the go at this.

I think he would have been the best at all time at doing both. Snoop has obviously straddled both. Am I forgetting anybody? Like, there's iced tea, but I don't, you know, I don't. I could throw some out there for you. Please. 50 cent, I'll cool J.

LL. LL, let's give LL his flowers. Let's go LL. I love it. LL, like, you know. He was gonna say Marky Mark. You could. Yeah.

He really just dipped in and out. Yeah, he wasn't like a mainstream. But he was cool. He looked cool. Marky Mark and a funky bunch, baby. He was hot. Are you sick of being on interview shows and asking to freestyle? Well, I always instantly say no.

So I'm not sick of it but anytime, it's shocking how often people think like I'm just doing like an exactly that like I was like I did this thing for Kevin Hart he just like won the Mark Twain award for comedy which is like winning like the Oscar for like being a comedian. Shout out to Kev. Yeah, shout out Kevin Hart, the Philly guy. You know I'm doing the red carpet and like I'm being interviewed by like NPR, CNN, it's like such a legitimate event and I'm doing the best I can and they're like, little dicky, like

as a rapper, like if you had to like, you know, bust out a few bars about Kevin, like what would they be? And I was just like, absolutely not. That's not how this works. This is his day and I am not going to ruin this. No, I like especially to like pinpoint it down to a specific subject. It's a weird thing. Like I became like a famous rapper without ever like having ever performed in front of anybody like I was like embarrassed to do karaoke, you know what I mean?

Like I'm not the kind of guy who like feels like normal just like being like just busting out into a rap spontaneously. That being said, I do think I can be one of the best rappers ever. So it's a weird place. I mean, I have to put in a lot more work to be one of the best rappers ever So it's a weird place I mean I have to put in a lot more work to be one of the best rappers But I feel like I have the talent to be one of the best rappers alive I am one of the best rappers alive present day I'm making a lot of great music even right now present day I'm in the studio every day and I really feel very strongly about what I just said

but at the same time look at how I talk look at how we communicating. I just think it'd be weird if I was like, you know, I'm not even gonna do it. Don't do it. Don't do it, don't do it. The thing that I'm the most proud of as a rapper for sure is like going on these like iconic radio shows like Sway because I feel like it is a huge part of the culture and it is like back to the wall

and I am a champion and a hero like that in my mind. And it was the most nervous I've ever been going on Sway and having to be impressive. I'm sure a comedy funny white rapper, they'd be thrilled if the guy failed and made a fool of himself. So if I were to show Jay-Z any footage of my rap career, I wouldn't show him any of my hit songs.

I would show him when I went on Sway and I rapped. Because I feel like that is a true representative of my talent musically. Alright, I love it man. Love that. Who's the best athlete rapper of all time? Dame Lillard. Instant.

Yeah, he's got bars. To me instant. He's got crazy bars. I listen to Dame Lillard and I'm like, I love listening to this music. Like the other artists, the rappers, athletes, I'm like, that love listening to this music. Like the other artists, the rappers, athletes, I'm like, that's cool that he did that. And sometimes I really do like it,

but Dame Lillard is just on a different level. I respect it. We've got a lot of new fans, not sure if you've heard of them, they're called Swifties. Yeah. I've heard all of them. For those, yeah. For those that don't-

How you guys doing with all this? It's, listen, it's not changed that much for me, but for, I'm having a blast in life, baby. Yeah. Just flying high. As you should. Enjoying it all. Bringing new lives to the football world.

Yeah, I think it's the best thing ever. Opening the football world up to new things. I love it. Honestly, my take on it, not that you wanna spend time talking about it for the 5,000th time, but I just think there's something that makes everyone feel like the world

is kind of like high school, where your most popular pop star, beloved musician somehow met your most popular, beloved athlete, and they actually fell in love, and it's just real, and I don't know. I think it's, anyone who hates on it is a bitter loser. But I think a lot of people who would maybe expect to hate on it actually love it and they acknowledge

they love it because it's just so, there's something so American about it or something. I hate to say American. There's something just classic about it. I don't know how I did it because she wasn't into sports. So I don't know how the fuck I did it. Well you something like just classic about it. I don't know how I did it because she does not, she wasn't into sports. So I don't know how the fuck I did it. Well you did it because you said you caught around

on your multimedia platform. No, 100%. I know exactly how I did it. Um. Yeah. Yeah. What um. Yeah, what song would you, of all your songs,

recommend to the Swifties that haven't listened to you before? What is your number one song that you ask people to listen to? Or you would want somebody you before what is your number one song that you ask people to listen to? Or you would want somebody to listen to of your catalog of music. Well, I guess my instinct is to go to the poppiest song I make however I'm still the same man that I always would be no matter if it's Swifty or Jay-Z So I would direct the Swifties to my sway freestyles. Yes

to see Just a guy getting after it, like just on a rap level. I have other pop hits that you might, there's a song that, I'm gonna stick with what I'm saying. I'm not gonna. Yeah, I like this. I'm not gonna mention, but I do have a few like breakup,

like you know, emotionally like love songs that maybe you'd find endearing, I don't know, but I also rap aggressively. Love it, love it. So your rap name's of course, Little Dicky. Can you help us give some rap names to me and Jason? So you guys have no starting points, I'm just. I mean, just based off of maybe,

I don't know, I guess. Career, like. Where does the rap name originate? Drunk Speech maybe, for Jason? Is it like the porn star names, where you would do like your street and like your cat or something like that? Well we can't do that because then we'd have the same

fucking, we'd be Flash Coleridge. Is there a real fucking porn name? Flash Coleridge is the great porn name, holy shit. That's the best one I ever heard of that. For me it was like, you know, there's a lot of Lil. So I was like, let's start with Lil. Sure. And I just knew I wanted to make like, probably like a joke that was self-deprecating

about being like not cool. Like Young Man was actually my backup rap name. I don't know if anyone of you wanted to claim that. That's good too, that's great. I thought about it and to this day I wonder would I have succeeded if I was Young Man? It's the raps, it's the raps for sure. The problem with young is that eventually you're not young

and then it's like. It doesn't seem to matter. Like young Jeezy is still getting on record. Who are you? Actually I think he might be Jeezy. He might actually be Jeezy. He might have taken the young away. I don't know, rap names.

Like really random thoughts are going, like stick shift is coming through my head Like for you like stick shift, but that's like that's dumb I never heard it like a rapper name anything like that stick shift, but it's cool. That's how you have a cool name I like the uniqueness of it. You'd have to be something a little cool like I feel like smooth with maybe like smooth like S-M-O-O-V-E. Smooth. Like smooth trav. Yeah. I'm like that. Smooth trav. Smooth trav. Like trav smooth. Trav smooth. Trav smooth. Nine the wave. You guys ever listen to that radio show? I think that was exclusively Cleveland. I never. No, it was everywhere.

107 FM, everywhere. Way over everyone's head. Bring zero bells for me. I'll think on it though, I think we could probably beat both of those. Smooth? Smooth might even be better than Smooth Trav. Is nobody named Smooth?

I don't know. What about Too Rich? I always thought that. Too Rich is a good rap name. It never be Too Rich, baby. Come on now. You are smooth. I mean, I'm happy that you went there immediately

because Trav is like, he is so smooth. I appreciate this, guys. Silk? Yeah, and you are about as sticky as we get. Stop, stop. Stop metal. Jerky. Jerky.

Jerky is a ho. All right, man. I think that fucking does it, dude. Yeah. Dave. Guys. Thank you. Man, thank you.

Thank you, thank you for blessing the show. This has been so fucking fun. You guys don't understand how much this is a dream come true to be like, let me just tell ya, favorite eagle ever. No way. Yeah, it was B-Doc.

Doc. I concur. Come on. I concur. It was B-Doc. I'll give you my quick eagle Mount Rushmore. Oh yeah. You. Let's hear it.

And this is personal. I'm not gonna like go Chuck McNerrick, you know, even though he probably would be in it. No, I probably wouldn't because Jason takes it. It's you, Brian Westbrook. Ooh, B. West. B. West, yeah.

I mean, second in all purpose yards. And I just think, he's just. Throw the guy the ball in the floor. Talk about likeable. the ball in the likeable Yeah, just a likeable game. Yes, I like it Dawkins. Yeah, Oh football and for me fourth. I'm going down at the McNabb Let me tell you something about McNabb controversial. Well, let me say I Would much rather I don't know if you agree but as a fan I would rather Be competitive for ten years and never win than suck and win one year.

And McNabb brought an era of sustained, I would say greatness, but if you wanna say goodness, fine. All I know is that every single year, we were in the last three weeks of the season, and I always believed, and I always, and he was a fucking Pro Bowl stud. Yeah, he was. And I thought he was cool.

I'm gonna have to play some ball now. And he seemed funny and cool and I thought he got an unfair rep in Philadelphia and I'm a big McNabb guy. Yeah. All right. I respect it. I respect that, my old friend.

I mean, I don't know, would I rather, would you rather take one Super Bowl and not making the playoffs ever again? You would. Give me that motherfucking Super Bowl. You want the Super Bowl. Give me that one Super Bowl and not making the playoffs ever again? Give me that motherfucking Super Bowl. Give me that fucking Super Bowl. They went to like what, like four or five NFC championship games or something like that?

They went to three straight. I'd rather not make the playoffs. They went to one Super Bowl. Losing in the playoffs in the Super Bowl is the fucking worst feeling in the world, fuck that. I can't imagine. I was so mad when you beat the Eagles on that bullshit fucking non-call. It was... gosh, it was so electric.

I've never had my hair... We tried to not talk about it together. My hair never looked the way it did after that game. It was like I had been electrocuted. That was so stressful. We don't gotta bring up bad memories, man. We can keep this thing going, dude. It's a good memory for you.

It's a good memory. The best rapper in the fucking game. The best rapper. You don't have to say that. I am saying that. You're right, he doesn't have to say it. Because I believe it. Thank you.

OG, thank you for blessing the show, Dave. Guys, thank you for having me. Thank you. You already know. I love you both. Alrighty, that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Dave for joining the show. Do I stand?

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