New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - New Season Kick-Off, Training Camp Battles & Conspiracy Theories | Ep 51

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

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Oh my gosh, Jason, did I tell you a dad said to me? What did he say? It's fucking gold. Don't punch him in the helmet. You need your hands healthy. Kick him in the nuts or a sh**. Father advice right there, baby. You need those hands.

Kick him in the nuts. God, that's funny. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome back to New Heights! Woo! Say the two, baby! Presented by Wave Sports and Entertainment brought to you by our friends. And the real reason why this show gets made every week.

Accelerator active energy drink, baby. Woo-hoo-hoo! I got my Kiwi Lime popping off today. Jason, what you got over there? I got my Cherry Lime, me shoving what you got over there? I got my cherry lime me shoving these Plant based thermogenics down your throat Delicioso were your host. I'm Travis Kelsey's my big brother Jason Kelsey out of Cleveland Heights Ohio University Cincinnati grads baby shout out to the bear cats as football seasons jumping off new heights is officially back for season two

that's as football seasons jumping off. New Heights is officially back for season two. You can't make this shit up, baby. They let us get a season two. Yeah, man, sorry to keep you guys waiting so long. If you're new here, welcome. We're so happy and so glad to have you. New episodes drop every Wednesday, ladies and gentlemen. Except for this week, this is coming out Thursday.

And subscribe on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S. And as we always do it, Jason, what have we got coming up? Well, we got a lot to cover. We've had quite the absence in lieu of training camp. Travel and I have been pretty busy, but we're going to get into everything that happened at Chiefs Andy, who's training camp. So make sure you you strap in but first as always new news Coming in hey, oh biggest news Amazon is drop the trailer for the documentary

Everyone thought that I was the most selfish one and Jason came out with a documentary about himself first Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha had to go and they just find a way. I thought you were looking for love. Yeah, that too. I'm still searching for it. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. 10 years later, still nothing. Walk us through what all went into making the document.

You know this, but I'll kind of catch everybody else. So two years ago, we started making a documentary really, but the idea that we'll be focusing on a player kind of going in and transitioning into retirement. I feel like all of those documentaries and stories are told retroactively. And I thought it'd be an interesting story to kind of go through that organically on film and everything that kind of goes in to an NFL player transitioning out of the NFL. Problem is I keep playing. So that film hasn't been getting made. And

this past year was such a special year. We had such great content with our family, the team, all of our coaches and everything. We really compiled a lot of footage from outside of the games in the locker room, inside the locker room footage during games. We end up partnering at NFL films because NFL films is following us all through the playoffs anyways to get the Kelsey Bowl documented that right now. So we ended up having a lot of content and The two people down in China as well as their company 9-5-4 productions that have been following us and filming us over the past couple of years Pretty much said you know, I think we have a film here whether you retire or not.

Like there's a pretty great story. We have a lot of awesome content and we think people would really appreciate seeing it. So we ended up moving forward and producing the documentary and partner with, well, NFL Films. using the documentary and partner with NFL films. I don't wanna mess this up, it's Sky Dance and then of course Amazon has been kind enough

to show it on their platform. That's awesome man, I can't wait to see you. And it's hard, people ask me questions. It's hard to comment on a film that's about you and your family. Like it's hard to even know how it's going to be received because it's so close to home for us, for Kylie and I. You know, hey, we'll see how it does. I think at the very least, we made something that's real and authentic and I think that is pretty proud of.

And we'll be able to look back on this and hopefully our kids, when they're growing up, they'll be able to watch it and see what it was like. And yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty excited to, that it's officially happening. No doubt about it. Well, I think everybody's excited to get into the behind the scenes of Jason Kelsey's life. Everybody's been fired up asking us to get Kylie Kelsey on an episode and it looks like

she's already going to be a star on this on this prime video man. I mean, I think it's just by watching the trailer. You know this, but Kylie is such a powerful figure in general, but it sure comes through in the documentary. Oh, man, I can't wait. Out of everyone in the documentary, she definitely looks the best. There's no question about it. Nice.

Well, visually and has her crap together the most. No doubt about that. Well done, well done, Jason. Is there any like certain point in the, in the like the entire show or the entire doc that like you want everybody to really see or. No, I mean, yeah, I don't know. There's so many, you know, pivotal moments and there's there's great content for football fans, right? Obviously, the whole course of the season,

um, you know, we have a lot of stuff in there. It was important to me to try and grab all the different things that are happening in NFL players' mind through the course of a season. So we purposely grabbed audio from media members, audio from coaches and video from coaches, video from family, and then video from, what's happening in my own head. So you get a good narrative of all the noise that's kind of happening throughout a season. You're hearing what everyone's telling

you on the outside. You're also hearing what everyone's saying on the inside from your coaches and teammates. And then you're kind of hearing what at home is like as well as how am I now processing this and moving forward. And I haven't really seen that, I guess, maybe told as much. Because I think that's kind of what's happening in all of our heads. From game to game week to week, there's this ongoing, you know, you're hearing for us last year, it was all, everybody was pumped up about the eels

and where we're going and the roster and everything was set up perfectly. But then there's also Nick Sireoni, telling us, we're not going to accomplish anything. If we don't start at square one and work to get better each and every day, you know, you're, you're, so I don't know. I just think that you get a really, really good look

at what it's like intrinsically for a player going through a season, as well as what's happening within their household and their team. So anything in specific particular is it's hard to say like, yeah, the whole thing, baby, the whole thing. The stuff that really stands out to me is like, especially like, you know, that going to the football, a lot of footage of Kylie and the girls and the family, I got to see, you know, kind of what it goes through on her end, like very visually and in upfront, you know, all the work that's necessary to

go there and support me and the team. There's great content from you. There's great content. And it's also just fun to look back to see where it all started at at the beginning of the season, where it ended at. And, um, yeah, it was an incredible journey. Well, the documentary will premiere on September 12th, exclusively on Prime Video. Um, it's a Kelsey. Is it Kelsey or Kelsey? Which one did you go with? It's definitely Kelsey.

Don't say Kelsey. Okay. Alright, so you Kelsey. When you come out with your documentary, you can call it Kelsey. September John. That God. That's good. Maybe we should come out with your documentary you can call it Kels September God that's good maybe we should come out with another documentary where they follow you around this time too and it's Kelsey and Kels are you still have what do you sell the guys following you? We've toyed around I mean I still

think that there's an interesting documentary to be made of an NFL player transitioning whether that happens I mean now we have the podcast. We first started making this documentary, we didn't have this. So, I feel like even when that happens, that's going to kind of happen organically through the podcast. You know, it's something that is fascinating to me for years because, as you know, you see guys that move on, that go, that transition or whatever they want to do after the NFL and there's

great stories, there's unbelievably sad stories. I think there's a turning point for everybody that transitions out of the NFL that is not to be taken lightly. And it's something that I think is inherently suspenseful and dramatic. So I'm sure it's shit curious about it. And I feel like if I'm curious about it, other people curious about it. So yeah, you ain't in it alone.

Yeah, we haven't really gotten that far yet. We're still, we're going to let this release. And more importantly, we're going to focus on the New England Patriots. We have week one. We know what is dramatic is my ball security and also my baby security because after three children that you've had, I still don't know how to hold a baby. Ball security baby, you told me hold it just like a football and that was probably the worst advice you can give me because I'm ready to lateral that thing at a moment. You would think after three of three nieces, I would have some sort of understanding on how to hold an infant, but I made it look extremely awkward.

So, Ben in this photo is less than two weeks old. I think he's right after SNL. So she's a little flimsy. She's a little flimsy. They have a new girl. She was like, yeah, yeah. It's like, okay, just trying to get you in the packet. They make him durable though. I'll tell you. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've dropped them. I mean, straight on their heads. Well, it's easy to kill. See, I'm here fine.

It's a little different. I guess we'll find out. I'm mechanics. Years later, Bennett's like able to sit up now. And like, so for those of you that don't have kids, Travis, you do these things called tummy time, okay? Oh, I know tummy time. What's still do tummy time? Tommy times when you put them on tummy and they get the neck muscles in the back

Does nobody tell me to work on that posterior chain Cuz read always tell you lose your glutes you lose your game So keep those can't get that posterior on Benny's at the stage now where she's crawling and she can start and she can sit up. That's exciting. Yeah, it's exciting, but it's also like you got to have your head on because you should be sitting there and then all of a sudden just, hug out right on the back of the head. So don't let them lol you to sleep. I grow Benny.

Nice. You can't just sit him on the bed and just know they're going to be good. I'll crawl right off of that sucker. Roll. I learned that watching Rugrats, man. Those things you get it. Babies can get it everywhere. Do you remember Rugrats?

Of course. Who was your favorite Rugrats? It's the only song I can play in the piano right now. Who was your favorite Rugrats? Tommy. Tommy Pickles. Yeah. Dude, have you ever, have you gone back

and rewatched Rugrats? I didn't even know that. I like rewatched. Is it still on it? Is it still on TV? No, but I didn't know what Tommy's dad did. on it? Is it still on to you? I didn't know what Tommy's dad did. I guess he's like a toy maker.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, something like that. I don't remember that at all. I just remember being a goofball. I was always a big fan of Chuckie. I like Chuckie a lot. Make it toys for a living. I mean, you got to be a little goofy.

I think he was a toy maker. Well, the Kelsey documentary, like you said, September 12th, exclusively on prime video. Make sure you check it out. And, uh, and give us your feedback. Yeah. We'd love to hear it from the 92% maybe on, uh, other new news down to Kelsey's officially an NFL spokeswoman. Hey, that's right. The NFL launched its you can't make this stuff up promo to kick off the 2023 season. And mom mom is she's throwing the bait out to Jimmy G the cougar is out mom is

Currently all over the world. She's in the Mediterranean right now. It was just up in Anchorage, Alaska took a trip to Madrid She is Thriving right now in life and we'd love to see it. Love you mommy Can't wait to see you in the first game. Shout out to mom, killing it on the, on the, as an NFL spokeswoman. Yeah.

Keep that shit coming, Ma. Other new news. The NFL has also released the annual list of the top 100 players as voted on by the players. Jason, would you, would you vote me as? I don't know if I should say this, but I have never voted on by the players. Jason, would you, uh, would you vote me as, I don't know if I should say this, but I have never voted on the top 100. I'd still down honestly, I don't know who I don't know where they're getting these fucking votes from. I think I did one time. They were like in the locker room and like NFL films was in the locker room. I think it was a woman who worked for NFL film. She handed me a

piece of paper and it wasn't like a top 100. It was top 20 maybe top 10 I think it was more than that. I think it was like 20 you and I thought a lot of Eels such a hard she was like huh you're a big fan of the Eagles and then rolled her eyes and I was like okay I'll never do that again. Yeah, that's the response I was never into it and then that didn't help but I think you were number one. Yes You were you were number two on my list. It was not wrong. It was first. Well, it's fair. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, amen, 37. I'm not going to lie. 37. You're 37 years old this year. Way higher than I should be in my head. I was like, I was, I don't know if there's 37 players better than Jason right now.

Oh, there's definitely there's there's 50. You're single handily like the. I just don't think a center belongs In the top I'm gonna stop So what 50s where it's like all right centers you guys can't I feel like no center should be ahead of any quarterback Like every quarterback is more important And the most important center

Is that fair to say I mean it is I mean it's just, you gotta have a good quarterback. Every quarterback, every left tackle. I mean, you're the culprit of the most unstoppable play in the NFL last season. After I'm curious to see what teams are gonna do. I've been watching and short yardage what teams are doing.

There's some, they've been studying this. The big thing is that you moved up from 71 to 37. It's a huge jump. Is that the highest you've ever been? Not only is 37 the highest I've ever been, not to two my own horn, but. It's gonna explain his best football, they're in this career, man.

You were thinking about retiring. 37's the highest I think a center has ever been rated on the top 100. Ooh, tuck you, shit, pal. Well, I'm just kind of saying that to say that I been rated on the top 100. Oh, Tokyo ship, huh? Well, I'm just kind of saying that to say that I don't know the center belongs. Walk your walk. Talk your talk. The world's a coach car or semi-aljects that I tied that bow.

I think sometimes people confuse me for youth. Travis Kelsey's really good. Jason Kelsey's a guard. Nobody's ever confused me for you. No, me for you. Nobody's ever confused you for me. I mean, for you. Nobody's ever confused you for me. I mean, we got moustaches. Never.

Confused. They've never confused that. We got similar builds. We got similar eyebrows. Dude, I'm like looking at eyebrows, dude, your eyebrows are thick as fuck. I'm going white everywhere, but my eyebrows just keep getting darker.

I don't even need to just ferment them. They just, all the coloring from my beard and the side of my head just go straight to my eyebrows just keep getting darker. I don't even need to just ferment them. They just, all the coloring from my beard and the side of my head just goes straight to my eyebrow. Man, I'm starting to, I'm thinking about growing this out again. Man, I'm starting to see you a lot more gray isn't the last time I saw. I'm telling you, you're two years behind me. It's happening.

Two years behind me. We got Uncle Don Jeans in us. It's not good. We got to grab a playlock. Grab a playlock. Grab a playlock. You have to point, Fox. Yeah, he is. He is. Grab a play lock. You had a point, Fox. Yeah. He had to go here. Oh, God, no, no hair. I'm there. Well, he's starting his, it's, it's

there. I'll see you. Yeah. You're out of your mind. Go look at Uncle Don. All right. Uncle Don, come here. I made top five. Hey, you mentioned this the first time you are on NFL top 100. And it's,'s it's kind of I don't know It's almost like laughable that you can try and like put like a single player ahead of another like it's a team sport Like I'm benefiting off of a great coaching staff a great quarterback You know, I mean awesome players around me. So it's I think it's very hard to kind of select people one by one on who's the best and things like that, but I know To like put like number ratings as as this is done the NFL top 100. It is if you was weird

Yeah, do you care about the top 100? I don't want to bash the top 100 I mean, I don't think it's bashing it. It's just like, oh, wow, it's nice. You know, it's nice to see that you're the number one ranked center. I kind of think of it similar to the Pro Bowl and other things where it's like, you know, it's it's always nice to know you're respected by your peers. I mean, I think that that's a huge part of playing this game is for respect and, you know, the people like, yeah, that's everything. Yeah, that they notice what you're doing out there. It's a cool way to gauge that. That's where I like it and it's cool to see your teammates get ranked really high you know

Jalen Hertz being at number three it's always fun to see your guys kind of get that recognition as well so yeah. I'm with you. We're talking about recognition man the Eagles Kelly Green jerseys just came out for sale online because you guys are rocking those things this year. I'm excited. Somebody was the number one jerseys seller in Philadelphia. Only for women. Only for women. Yeah. What? You're the sex symbol in Philadelphia? I mean, hey, this is sexy Batman. I thought it was just, you know, because there was no other Batman nickname's left.

Jason Kelsey, women's Kelly Green Jersey, the top selling Eagles item. Ha ha ha ha ha. Oh man, this is great. This is gold. This is fucking gold. They might be because, like, how did they,

how did they, they're not, I don't think that's it. They might be because, oh man. They might have to make's why he's bad man. Lazy gentleman. I don't think that's it. They might be because they might have to make me a women's cut because my tits are pretty big. So maybe that's the only one they're selling. Because it's authentic. I don't think the women's jerseys have an extra few seams. Well, they don't.

No, I think it actually, it has like an hourglass seam to it. So it kind of like gets thinner and is more flatter. Well, that's definitely not my... I'm afraid. Hourglass is not... Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Sweetie, get the, get the, get the Kelsey Jersey. He's got big tits too.

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. What's got big tits too. What's a I'm more like a I'm more shaped like those little kids grenade juice cups. That's my shape. Huggies, huggies. I'm more of a hug shape. I got shaped like a beer can. Well, that's awesome man. Congrats. You're real. You're really in the what is it? The residuals? You're you're really in the NFL PA royalties. The residuals, you're, you're really in the NFL PA. The royalties. The royalties there it is. I knew it was an R word. Yeah.

I'm getting better. Yeah, I don't know those. I don't know what's going to happen. But yeah, that's no, you're out there, man. You get that. I'm excited to wear the Kelly Greens. I've always wanted to wear it. It's so cool.

I thought you already wore them once. No, the, the last year they did them was a year before I got in the NFL because that's the year that they changed that you couldn't have two helmets. Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why all of a sudden we've brought them back because now we can have the Kelly Green helmets. Well, dope and congrats on that, man. No, thank you. Moving on to one of my favorite segments, no dumb questions. Yeah, that's back. That's right, because there's no dumb questions. Just dumb people. Yeah, just fucking idiots out here.

No dumb questions is brought to you by our friends at BW3's. Yeah, baby. Also known as Buffalo Wild Wings, wingsbeer sports. I don't know if that's still their slogan, but I fucking love saying it. There's no dumb questions about where you're watching football this year. And it's right in the fucking middle of a packed Bdubs.

Aggressive. It's an aggressive ad, but I can't say that. I just agree with it. It just made me want to go to Bdubs and get up here and watch the fucking football, man. It brings such a memories back to being in middle school. Gosh, we had a lot of fun in that Cincinnati location. Alrighty, from Tara Shaw, Caruso, I'm a long time Philly teacher about to start my 30th year tomorrow. Damn, who were your favorite teachers and

why? Also, who was the better student? Well, first of all, Tara, thank you so much for the service you are providing the kind of students in your jurisdiction or Whatever school you're at, but anyways Can't say enough good things about teachers. Yeah, I've had some great ones, man It's gonna be hard to just list one. Yeah, I would say if let's we'll tack the second one first who was a better student I think that's unequivocally me. I think that's probably accurate. I think that's probably accurate, say. Yeah, when you're using words like unequivocally, you're better than me, more than 100%. Did you take, were you in any AP classes, you're in a nice, no fuck, no.

You're in major studies? No, I, Mr. Jackson. Dad always said, if I just applied myself, I could have done way better. There's no question about that. Jason wins that. He was in all AP classes, as well as he was in music, as well as he was in swim cadets. Swim cadets was time, that was a, I was an in swim cadets.

I was, tell everybody what swim cadets was for everybody that doesn't know what swim cadets was for everybody that doesn't know what swim cadets are. It's our synchronized swimming team at Cleveland Heights High School. The highest baby. That's right. And swim cadets would put a show on every year and they would choose certain men from their grades. And I was one of the chosen people. They chose you volunteered.

No, they chose. They said, you're funny. We think you'd be a good addition to the show. And I made a fool of myself and made the show. Did you have like a sax, like a solo saxophone act on the diving board or something? Nope. I don't think that sounds right.

Dude, I swear I remember seeing you on the diving board. There's no saxophone on the diving board. I can't remember. I honestly cannot remember what happened. There's something somewhere out there. It was definitely recorded. Who is your favorite teacher at uh in the Cleveland Heights University Heights school district? There's some great ones that come out. Do you start in Fairfax Elementary? Is that we want to start? Yes. I'm going to Fairfax. I'm going Mr. Ioni. Mr. Ioni. I didn't just remember. I didn't even have Mr. Ioni and I loved Mr. Ioni.

He was just one of the coolest guys. You're talking about the word of mouth, word of mouth about Mr. Ioni, traveled. We used to play this game where it was a spelling game and if you spell, I forget how you even play, but if you spell the word correct, there's all my that. You got to shoot the eraser at the waist basket

and then there's a whole point scoring system and that was a whole thing and everybody. Bring sports into learning that's gonna Get the closest every time everybody Class of sweet we were doing sports with Education, I'm trying to remember who the fifth grade teacher I had is was and you would always get these little fuzzy balls And you would get like a whole pack of fuzzy balls. Oh my gosh misses Pack of fuzzy balls. Oh my gosh. Mrs.

This is gonna kill me. She was the nicest lady in the world, too. I actually had her. Yeah, Mrs Something worth it. Em Mrs. We got a text mom mom. No, I'm gonna go with mr. Mr. Campbell. It was my was my kindergarten teacher He ended up being my basketball teacher in my kindergarten teacher. He ended up being my basketball teacher in a fourth and fifth grade or fifth and sixth grade. I didn't do kindergarten in Cleveland Heights. I mean, do you know what I didn't like? You know who was terrible? Mrs. Schwartz. And she was pretty much the same way her name sounded. She was mean as hell. For some reason, it always reminded me of the word Warts. And she was just a mean lady. She did not take any shit. Jason sit out. She was Mrs. Schwartz. Everybody didn't like her. She had no candy. She didn't

have a candy jar. That's what it was. All the elementary school teachers. If you have candy jars, you are a fan favorite. Hopefully you're not like Mrs. Schwartz, Tara. Hopefully you're not. Shout out to Mrs. Schwartz. Yep. Because I don't want to bash anybody. I mean, listen, I'm all for being the kids. I'm so I'm growing up. I was anti-Mr. Schwartz. Now I'm definitely pro, Mr. Schwartz. You've got a little Mrs. Schwartz in you.

These kids are two. We, it's just soft. Yeah, we got two soft. One of the things that always used to be intimidating is when we showed up to school and dad gave the teachers permission to hit us. One thing, just whack them right side the head. No, you can hit them if you want.

I promise you, I'm more than okay with that. They deserve it. Never got hit. Never got hit. They don't hit kids at the Ecclid School. But I can guarantee a dad would have been fine with that. 100%. He was bargaining for it.

I have to, one of my favorite teachers of all time and we actually ended up going to college with his sons, Mr. Thakston. Oh, you can't leave out Mr. Thakston. Cleveland Heights science teacher. He was a he actually taught me. He's a easy top-esque beard. Oh my gosh, he was just a cool cat, man.

One of my favorite guys of all time. He was an iconic Cleveland Heights teacher. I think he grew garlic out in Hudson. He did. Hudson side and was, yeah, that's awesome, man, Mr. Thakston. I actually went to the barn where they had all the garlic because growing because I was back home with Jake his son when he went to Cincinnati with us, but great family. I used to love nature studies because we would actually like learn about the trees and the

birds and everything and the insects. Tell me about these trees that are around the ice. Tell me about the trees, Travis. I'm waiting for the trees. around the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the saw the trees in our front lawn because as soon as we got outside, I was fucking out of there. So I missed the fact that I'm sure you knew this, but yeah, as soon as as soon as we got outside,

I let you guys hit the corner a little faster than I did, and then I vanished. And I played hookie. Kids stay in school. I don't know if I'm going high school. Mrs. Jervore or Mr. Jervore was middle school. Mrs. Bukovak was a high tie. I can't leave out my band teacher, Mr. Baker, one of the few teachers I still keep in touch with. Miss Oh, Keith in at Heights. That doesn't ring a bell for me. There are a lot of coach Rubble and coach Mike Jones, baby. Well, that's what I was going to go next was coach, robo coach, my coach guys have all helped in PE. I learned everything I know about drugs, human anatomy, sex from my football coaches, which I don't know if that's good. I feel like that's not a pretty one-sided demographic there, but I think they did a good job. You're killing it.

You're absolutely killing it. Look at you, you're a professional athlete and you've got three baby girls. You're absolutely killing it in that health department. All seriousness, we grew up in a wonderful school district with a lot of great teachers. A bunch of them. I would not trade that for anything in the world. So, you know, keep doing your thing. A bunch of them. I would not trade that for anything in the world. So keep doing your thing, Tara, Shaq, Harusso.

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bit of free time before the season kicks off Jason? Just hanging with the family. I mean, we went to the beach, went to the shore for the final time. We're gonna try and hit the shore this week too on the extended week from the season getting or preseason ending and the season starting. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Nice. All I got. Yeah. Well, that sounds exciting. What did I do? I can't remember. I don't think I did much. Did you go anywhere? I disappeared. I can't remember what I fucking did. I think I was up in New York. Do you see any movies? I didn't see any. I've been seen a movie and I can't even tell you the last movie I've seen. Well, movie in a theater or just movie in general. In general,

me and TV. I have a turn on TV. Good for you. I just, the last time I turned on TV is that thing right there just to throw season two up. Season two. You see that art. I tell you what, what's one thing that I do watch in training camp? Hard knocks, baby. It is a good hard knock. This is a good, he's got the moxie of a quarterback. No, I was going to go alone. I've been, I love this show alone.

And for some reason it always airs or comes out on Netflix right around training camp. You know what alone is? Basically they take like, I don't know, like 10 or 12 people and they're like survival experts or whatever and they go off into the wilderness and they get like 10 items and whoever makes it the longest wins. Jason, I would have thought that by you being a part of the obnoxious catching Kelsey

that you would realize that reality TV is not fucking real. This is real though. This is not real. They lose like 40 pounds and have to get kicked off the show from being malnourished. Yeah, I bet. But it's had me thinking what a I think it's fun doing it with experts, but we should do our own version of alone and just see how long NFL players can make it out in the field

God damn I'm gonna need some help boys. I'm gonna need some out real bad. I need civilization There's no chance we're making it more than I mean, I feel like I feel like I can make it for as long as it would take to starve to death If you give me a pot of oil water that I could get water down. I mean I got a lot of excess fire. Get the fuck out of here. I can make a fire, you kidding me? I can make a fire now. Do you want to do it just me and you?

No, I don't want to do it. I'm losing. I'm losing. I lost as soon as you said me versus you. I just got more mass to burn off. I can go, I might be able to go much without eating food. I need to get 40. I can just eat itself.

I'll be chilling there drinking water. As long as I boil the water and don't get jardy, I can last a while. I gotta fatten myself, man. I gotta fatten myself so I can survive if it comes down to it. I couldn't build a shelter though. Some of these shelters are crazy.

Who do you think would win NFL alone? NFL alone? Oh, alone the show. If we did just NFL players, you know who I think would do really good. And but he's not a current player. Does I have to be current players? I feel like we don't know about him because they're so like just in the wilderness

and they're out there and they're not like a big fake big name of, you know what I mean? Like in your living room name, like they don't care about that shit. They care about like fucking cooking eggs on rocks and shit. The guy I was going to go with who's not currently an NFL player, I would go and you look. For some reason, I feel like he's read a bunch of books about this and he spent a lot of time outside. I think Andrew Luck would do good.

I'm going to go with, um, you take somebody with like great physical stature, like about Tyree Kill could like catch something and kill it. Give him a knife. He might be able to run down a deer. He's perfect. That day of that be a good show right there. What can Tyree get? Tyree kill alone going. Jared Allen killed something with a spear out of a tree once. I'm not even a word. I mean, Jared Allen wins, right? If he's still in the league, if he's still in the league, just something about those jort and flannel it just stay ahead, that guy can survive. Ha, ha, ha.

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the way the bold topics work during the season is that Jason will see us in topics about my games or my training camp, and I'll do the same about his. All righty, let's get into Chiefs training camp. There was news out of Chiefs training camp that shocked the world. Travis, you brought

back the mustache. So what inspired you to change here, that thing? What, why do you have a mustache right now? I hear it. I hear it. Everyone hears it is. These whiskers are thriving right now. I just moisturized them. Explain the stash. What do you mean explain the stash? I feel like it originally started a few years ago, I always bring it around training camp because that's when I don't have any paid appearances or I'm not subject to like doing anything where I have to like team up with like a company and look presentable.

So you're saying companies probably don't like your stash look? It's just not as recognizable. So it's like, I don't know. It's actually, it's pretty funny. I'll go somewhere with a hat and sunglasses on and nobody knows. I'm fucking hide in the trees, dude. I just blend. I want to see a picture of you and Uncle Don, side by side, because you look just like Uncle Don with the stash. It's so spright on. I want to see Dad in thirties with a mustache.

Well dad used to have the Fumantiu. Speaking of worst facial hair, worst facial hair, what is the worst facial hair you've ever had? The worst face, probably in high school when I had the chin strap. It was just I had the Abe Lincoln. I had Abe Lincoln, but it was like my version of the Abe Lincoln.

Two weeks where we'd just be like, two weeks ago. I had it my entire, my entire high school career. The havelagan. Yeah, I think the worst face you're here. I've ever had is when I didn't have facial hair. You know, um, is this all? Is all of this must.

He go ahead. I did the mustache because of my head coach Andy Reid. I think we all did it. Uh, as it to when I say we, team about 10 of us came together and said, yeah, we're going to come back after this off day with my stashes. Time out. 10 people came back with my stashes. Yeah, there's a picture a few years ago. So that's where it started. Then every year, I've just done it. And I always just look at coach reading. I just start brushing that thing. Coach, I'm a Hawaiian shirt away from looking

just like you. Well, have you found out what Taylor Swift thinks of your mustache? Yeah, we're not gonna bring out Taylor Swift. I did this episode. But something tells me she's gonna like it. I'm, yeah, no, so I always have fun with it. And now I think that the door is here to stay.

I think I'm going to rock this thing until we lose a game. You're going to rock it until you lose. You see, I'm going to see, I'm going to see if it's a winner. If this thing is a winner, man, I might just frickin' keep it going because it's not too bad right now. I'm not going to lie. I think the mustache is kind of rocking right now. Yeah, it's come back in it's a good look

You said you should rocket you had the ultimate mustache you had a full-on Tourler you were walrus. Yeah, by your rookie year. I think it was that was my second year I was born with a 20 CL and You're trying to raise money for November and you're trying to raise money for November. Nice. There was a prostate awareness campaign centered around growing mustaches, so I participated in that.

Hell yeah. Yeah, I won't be going back to shaving and being able to see anything around my neck until I lose about 50 pounds. So what do you think about your mustache versus Kirk cousins? I mean, Kirk cousins is he's that that's that's pretty damn good right there. I mean, I can't hate on a Fumant you. You see a good Fumant you.

It's nothing but respect brother. So is that handle what at what point is handle bar become Fumant you? It's Fumant you and he's the dangle. Yeah. No, I know what you mean. I don't think that's a handle bar. I think that's a Fumant you. So what's a handle bar is when it rolls up that you had the dangle. Yeah, no, I know what you mean. I don't think that's a handlebar. I think that's a fume and chew So what's a handlebars when it swirls up that you had the handlebars?

Yeah, that's because it's like a bike. You know, it's like kind of like a handlebar All right, I'm glad we're getting to the bottom of this. All right, Chippy chief's camp Yeah, we got to talk about it early in camp. There are a few incidences where things got a little Extra-curricular it's football, it's training camp. It's, I'm really tired, I'm really hot, and shit's going on that I don't appreciate. So, I mean, you know, it is what it is. We gotta keep those emotions under control.

So, yeah. Rather get them out in training camp than in the season though, you know what I mean? So sorry to Caprio and Jack for throwing haymakers But it's not the first time anybody's throwing haymakers in a training camp. It kind of happens every year Andy Reid said I'm just glad that at that old he still got some juice in them So I guess Andy wasn't that mad about it Because I got the stash baby. I got the jumble.

Did you have the stash? We were getting in these fights. Was that already there? I was like, I'm not sure. I thought the stash was post-fight. Yeah. That's a good teammate. You can't be punch people.

That's fair. My homes behind the back pass. We all saw it first time outside of warm-ups. Then my homes is throwing a behind the back pass. He's been doing this for forever. And every he does it I scream at him do it in the game. Yeah. Do you think it's going to happen this year in a game?

I don't think it'll ever happen. The situation that has like the it has to be a perfect like instinctual decision like out there's only one way I get this off and it's like behind the back. I feel like it's got to be like a red zone designed play. You know what I mean? There's no way he's like premeditating or what is it? Premeditating like or before the snap like, all right, this is I'm going to throw this backward pass right here.

You know, there's just no way. It just doesn't make any sense. Why don't they think you do it in a red zone? You see like the statue of Liberty plays or the guys do like the handoffs and stuff like that? Like maybe just, you know, like a little, I don't think anybody would go for it though. I mean Possibilities are endless here at the walk of factory. Yeah, it's not very tastes like snowsberries over here That's the next iteration of the ring around the Rosie Willy Wonka the willy-welcome endless possibilities

Chiefs go two and one in preseason games and you guys played your starters in Two of the games just Just about all three. There were a selective few that didn't play that the preseason game. Yeah. But pretty much everybody was getting action. What do you think about still getting play in time in the preseason games? Do you think it's beneficial? I think it's beneficial, especially if you're not doing like the joint practices

to get to get lined up against somebody else, a different opponent. Your defense that you're going up against in training camp, you're like the cheese defense that we go up against. They know our offense in and out. They know my skill set, the guys, you know, it's just, it creates great competition, but at the same time, it's like a team isn't going to know what, my defense knows going into a training camp practice. Sure.

So it's just, it's good to get out there, feel the real time, timing of the offense, and go out there, catch a ball, get hit, or make a block, and just, you know, just get physical, man, get used to playing some football, get bruised up, get beat up a little bit, and get build that endurance for the season, man. I love preseason. Not only do you like it, but I guess Pat Mahomes has said he actually likes getting hit in the preseason. Yeah. He's quite the same.

Which he did not get hit. I know. Let's revamp those to the offensive line. Yeah, he said you want to get hit where it's not too hard, but you can feel it. You go through that long offseason of working through the pocket and knowing that guys are rushing you, but they can't touch you. So it's just different when they actually can't touch you, get into the game where you're able to get tackled and everything like that.

So, I think it's a fair point. Yeah, I'm with it. I'm with it. He didn't get touched nor did I get tackled because I dropped the football. Oh, I did get tackled. I got tackled again. Yeah, the catch, I thought.

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I won in. Got that tackled. Is that kind of your moment that kind of, does it feel nice to actually get tackled? I got to tackle again. Yeah, I got to catch you. I thought. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I won in. Is that kind of your moment that kind of does it feel nice to actually get like tackled? Does it feel like, oh, now we're back into it? Yeah. Once you get hit or yeah, it's it's on a poppin. You know what I mean?

Now it's like, oh yeah. All right. Now get the juices flowing. I say juice is about 10 times. This episode is fucking get you have juice is going. Juice man over here. Well, this was your 11th training camp of the chiefs. How is this one different from the previous ones? It's not. It's been the exact same thing. I feel like I'm in the vortex every time I go out there and it's sickening because everything it's not sickening. I don't want to say

it like it's just miserable, but I put it together that if I do one more training camp in St. Joe, Missouri, I've officially spent an entire year of my life in Missouri, Western state university playing football. And yeah, that's that kind of just blew my mind. I'm like, damn, man, I've been out here an entire year of my life almost and I have fun, but I have fun out there and I use it as like what it's there for, you know, to get yourself ready and get yourself a season ready game ready. So it flies by for me. I'm doing stuff all day, every day when I wake up, I have like a schedule routine of like

just doing shit. That'll help me get better at football. And I focus all my energy on it with no distractions. And that's what it's there for. And I feel like every single year, it gets me prime and ready for that first game, man. There we go. How'd you hold up during the long drive drill?

Which one? How many long drive drills did you guys do? We did one just about every pad of practice. And what was the longest drive drill? Um, I think it was 18 this year 18 who was long drive yeah, and it was hot It was I we might have got a water break in there might have got a water break in there Were you in there for all 18 or did you get a son? No, no, I'm way too old to be in there all That we got to get we got to to get some, some dogs in the tight-end rooms and reps.

They still don't sub me out. They're freaking. Yeah. Well, you're not doing much. You're just snapping. And like you said, yeah, you're just snapping. You're snapping and just putting your belly on people. Uh, I'll tell you what, by the end of practice, I am feeling it, man.

What's the most, I always ask guys, what's the most weight you guys weigh in and out of practices? Yeah. You have to, right? Because it's kind of like a safety tool. That is a mandatory. Yeah, the rehydration. Correct.

They don't necessarily do it to gauge how much you lose as a big red flag, but if you don't gain that weight back by the next day. Yeah, it's more about gaining the weight back the next day. They can tell whether you are hydrated. Nice. What's the most weight you've ever lost in a camp practice? Like this year or just just period that you can remember. Man, definitely over 10 pounds.

I'd be lying if I had a specific number. I'd probably say somewhere 12 to 14 pounds. Yeah, I was 14 this year. I lost 14 one day. Dude, it's, it's no joke sweating my ass off just changing. I went through three pairs of cleats, three pairs of socks and gloves. And just by the end of it, it was still swamp, swamp feet. You know, I mean, even into my third pair, I was just, I was leaking.

But thankfully, I was well hydrated. Yeah, those three hour practices with Andy, you could very easily, you were in not tricking an accelerator on the pre-fucking day, every day. I don't have them on the field at all. You should do. I don't have them on the field.

I should. You got to accelerate. We got to get a water bottle for me. God damn, that's good. I do that. I do a water bottle with some caffeine in on game day. It's like just be fired up. No, I'm an accelerator, at least the big hand,

300 milligrams of fantastic natural caffeine. Right. So what's your name, baby? Juice me up, baby. Yeah, man. Oh, was there any updates on Chris Jones? How is handling this situation? Do you want to talk about it?

Oh, man, Chris, can you please come back? You're really scared, me, man. I don't, I don't get it. You must know something, I don't know, because I just don't get it. I really want to get another super bold ring with you brother. This is me, bargain you to just come back and play football for the chiefs.

That face we need you. Well, I just want you to get, and I don't know what the situation is. Obviously, yeah, I'm a fall. Well, the situation is you guys are painin' enough and I think you should hold off as long as possible Especially past what are we playing? We thank you. I'm trying to get them back in the office Chris. I need you listen don't let them do this to you

We play we For all the other detacles in the NFL you cannot take this injustice you must stay Through at least the Eagles game then you can come back in the NFL, you cannot take this injustice. You must stay. So at least the Eagles game, then you can come back. Thank God. Damn it. The appropriate time. It's just a great defense of player in the league right now. Yeah. He's deserving of all the money in the world. Chris, I love you.

Please come back now. Is there anything different coming off of the shrewd ball in your guys? Prepar anything? I feel like I already know the answer to this but no, it's football. We got some new players. We got some new new new weapons for coach Reed That that we're on on showcase during the preseason and we're excited to see those guys grow man There's something about the new that we've all we always talk about man the excitement of seeing a young guy Come into his stardom or come into his his role in the offense and seeing a young guy come into his start him or come into his role in the offense and seeing that guy have success is going to be awesome. And there's a bunch of, there's a bunch of young guys about a handful of new guys on the

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Bluey, that's what Bluey does. Yeah, she has a big blue thing. Ellie is so adorable. Not a lot of juice left. And all they want to do is run around and play. So I got to think of something to get him running. That day it was, it was go fetch the ball. Oh, yeah Why don't we work on playing catch together? Well, we tried but they're they're They're not great at catching full blown footballs and and all they want to do is run So I think usually we do the obstacle course We get all the pads set them down

Grasses lava and they got to go all the way through nice That day we were not moving very far from where we were at. And they wanted me to throw the ball. And so. Yeah, there's a video that surfaced and everybody, of course, had to comment on how you're playing fetch with your kids. Yeah, it's classic. They should see me tell them to sit and stay.

It's not much different. Joy practices. Let's talk some joy practices. You guys had one or two of them. Two. You guys had two? Yeah, the Browns and Colts. We actually had two boxes with the Browns and one with the Colts. Nice. Nice. I wonder why I just want to, I wonder why I just want to Colts. It was scheduled only one with the Colts. Oh, it was scheduled. It wasn't taken off the schedule that they were just two. Okay.

That's news. All but five teams, chiefs, Steelers, Bills, Cowboys, and Seahawks are conducting joint practices with another team. I did not know it was that common. That's crazy. That blows my mind, man. It's become a lot more common, especially as teams try to not play their starters in the games.

And the live periods. Did you guys do live periods when you do the joint practices? No, definitely not. Oh, that would fucking that would be. At most, it's dead. And that's actually an issue with some of the joint practices, what is, what is the end and all of that. But regardless, um, yeah, definitely no live situations. Quarterback is off limits.

They're designed to be pretty safe. And I think that's why more and more teams are doing it because you get a better look at what your one offense looks against a starting defense of an opposing team. A little bit more controlled environment, hopefully less injuries than with some of the preseason games. You think there's like unspoken rules about joint practices? Or do you guys go over like everything before in like a team meeting? I mean, I think that we go over. So the way we do it is we go over in a team meeting, what the rules are for the day.

You typically, the home team gets the rules of practice. So whoever is visiting, so last year we go to Cleveland, we go to Miami, we're participating in practice along their stipulated guidelines, right? And it's the same when teams come to NovaCare. So that's communicated. So what you're saying is the cults didn't get your guys' rules. I'm not going into this. You asked me a question and I'm answering the question. The joint practices, yeah, I think for the most part,

everybody's just trying to have a productive day. And I think that's what's communicated from the head coach. You know, we don't want to get into fights, we don't want to get into scuffles, lay off of their guys, we don't want people getting hurt. And that's the emphasis from Cereani is just, we can tell if you had the sack just go by the quarterback. We can tell if you could have broken up the pass, don't hit a receiver in a vulnerable position, right? I think that that is the emphasis that is being stipulated

most of the time. Compete, but do it in a way that you would compete with your own teammates and be smart about it. We don't got to get on what happened. Everybody has already seen and saw what happened. Was there any message by Sireoni or anything afterwards? I mean, listen, I think how did your teammates and everything kind of react to it? Was everybody on board like fuck that guy or? Listen, I don't want to do that.

I think that the bottom line is, I got heated and I can't allow that to happen. You know what I mean? You can't let your emotions get the better of you. There's no situation where that should have happened and escalated to that. So that is what it is. And I think that for us, that's all that Nick wanted, right? Like it's just the same preaching, you know, in a game, you don't get to do anything.

If something, if something happens, one of your teammates or whatever, you know, the reality is you got to operate as though it's in a game and you can't do all the little things or anything that's going to compromise the team and it's ability to win football games, which is ultimately what we're trying to do. So, you ability to win football games, which is ultimately what we're trying to do. So, you know, I think that, you know, for us, it's all about trying to be a smart football team, a discipline football team, and that was not a shining moment for me. Well, I respect a big dog.

The Philly Dogs, speaking of dogs, let's talk about a group of players that Philly fans want to hear about the most. The Philly dog is that defensive frontman. How's one on one's with Jaylen Carter Cohen? Well, I have not done a one on one. Again, some thankful he's been going up against the guard. I've been having my hands full with Jordan Davis, which is not much more fun. Yeah, that's a big deal.

So, okay. They only get bigger as they get closer to Jason. Yeah. For some reason, I get smaller, but it's everybody talking about Jalen right now. Jalen Carter has had a tremendous camp. You see all the flashes of what it takes to be a premier rusher in this league. He's got the ability to threaten you with power and the ability to threaten you with twitchiness and get to your edge.

And to me, that's the hardest thing. Whether you're a defensive end, a defensive tackle, a nose guard. If you want to be great and you want to really make it difficult for players to pass block you or run block you, you have to be able to threaten both of those. If you only have one of them, players can play it. If you only have power, you can sit can play it. If you only have power, you can sit down and do things to protect against that. If you only have agility-based moves or finesse moves, there are things that an offensive lineman can do to mitigate that. But

if you can truly do both of those, it keeps an offensive lineman on his toes. Am I going to sell out here to stop power? Am I going going to, you know, kind of bank on the fact that he's going to try and hit an edge on me and expose my chest? And I think that the best rushers I've been around know how to make those moves work off of each other. They make them look very, very similar. So it's hard to, you know, predict what's coming.

You know, he's still young. I don't want to put too much on his shoulder. He's still rookie. He's a big boy. He can handle it. I think everybody, I speak for everybody in NovaCare Complex that, you know, people are really, really excited about

what Jay Young Carter has done so far. The Philly Dogs is a cool name to have. It's like the steel carton or something. You can fill it out. Sure, don't underdog.com. If you want to support Philadelphia public schools and kids. All right now. We got a lot of them Georgia dogs on the team and you know, they're all dogs.

I mean, they've all had good camps. It's been it's been fun watching them. So excited to see what, especially on the demons side of the ball that looks like. Yeah. Lane Johnson says that Jaylen Carter is like a bigger Gino Actkins and a lot of, he might not be the biggest name in the game. Geno that's a good. He was an absolute or he is an absolute beast. I mean you turn on the tape that you do not want to fuck around with that dog. Perennial all pro player. I mean Gino was

unbelievable and he was the same thing. He had crazy power, crazy leverage. What other position battles or one-on-ones did you like watching? Man, obviously in the old line room, I'm always looking forward to watching the young guys play, compete with each other, get better. How do they react to coaching? How do they improve throughout the process? For me, I live so much in that trench road.

I love watching the linebackers. How are they gonna get off blocks? Who's progressing? You know, I think especially for linebackers, you see them noticeably get better at defeating blocks as training camp goes on. Yeah. I think they start to see the plays better. You start to understand. Yeah. Yeah. That's processing speeds up just a little bit. And you know, I think that that's the point of it, man. Yeah, it's been fun to watch the entire defense take shape with Sean DeSci and all those coaches.

So I wouldn't say any other one position. We got a lot of running backs that got a lot of touches. And obviously that's a huge part of the run game. So I'm always watching that and man, I'm not going to lie. I liked all of our running backs this year in training camp. I think they all had the strengths. They all did certain things really, really well. So yeah, I thought we, for the most part, it's just fun watching

guys go out there and make plays, man. Well, the DB versus wide receiver debate has hit the Eagles. Michael Irwin, Richard Sherman, Keeshawn Johnson, had everyone, including AJ Brown and Darius slay debating the hardest position in football. As we've already discussed, we kind of all just came to a, agreeance that DB trying to stop, stops somebody's easier than trying to, you know, make a guy miss. Right.

But trying to stop someone's harder than trying to make a guy miss. I would, the more I think about it though, it's really only the hardest position when it's one-on-one. So you're saying in zone coverage, you can... I could fucking go play cover three right now. That's fair. I do think that if it depends on what technique, it always depends on what technique and what is the circumstances and situations are happening. I still, I mean, one on one with Dory Gill, fuck that. No chance. Cover you. Yes. I go there and play cover two corner. Yeah, I'll play the first one. Yeah. You ever tried to beat a double team in coverage? Have I ever tried to? Yeah, like I have like, like

last year, the Raiders put a safety or a DB on me and then had a safety lurking for any time I crossed the field to come double me. That wasn't the easiest coverage to beat. You know, that was a difficult day. You know, so it's like, is that, is our, what are we basing it off of? Are we basing it off of, at the most difficult point of football? You're going to mean like, are we basing it off of if I'm getting double teamed or if a DB is in one-on-one coverage? Because then it's like, well, I'm going to take a DB in that situation because if it's two-on-one, I mean, I'm essentially fucked on that route or that play. I want to say it again. What people can't even play it. I don't even know what we're arguing about right here. This isn't like a, like, there's not even a question as to what is the harder individual

position. Like, yes, when you're a premier offensive player, David's coaches are going to scheme and do things to slow you down. And that's going to be really hard. But like that does not have anything to do with what is the hardest thing on the field, which is covering somebody one on one. And the field that is 50 yards wide, I'm out on any of these other scenarios that we're bringing up. It's, I mean, sometimes I got a block guys like in down with the Sue, you know, I have to do that all the time. But I'm to 40 to 50.

I'm not that dirty. I'm not that dirty. I don't know why I just told everybody I'm 240. I tried to fucking bargain. I tried to bargain. You got some long arms. You got the reach advantage. Onendomica sue.

I don't have any advantage on done because you got to be a long arms and sue. No way. I guess he's just got like beefy arms. So it looks like his arms are shorter. What? No, you're like you. You got you got long arms, Chef. No, I don't I What were you on? What was your own like?

34 and a half dude those are what that's like tackle arms. You're doing just fine You're like you're like long right there. Yeah, I just got them gumbe knees. Would you explain what the fuck gumbe knees are? Well, I got to ask the other guy. I was like, yeah, I mean, they're knees that aren't stiff. They're there. They're there. Gumbe doesn't even have knees. That's the whole point.

It doesn't even function like it's a joint. It just like, it flaps around and. It just doesn't even flap there. Yeah, I mean, they move in ways that it doesn't make sense for like human anatomy. Gumby knees are like, they're going in, they're going out, there's no rigidity to them. They're a gumby.

Indie forgity. What the fuck? Rigidity. Rigidity, same difference. I have no idea what you're talking about. And I just made up a word, no, I fuck idiot. What's the easiest position to play?? There's no way. Usually just helping a guard out. Physically, I think mentally, it's really hard. I think I mean, every position

has things that are hard and easier than it. I mean, I think center out of all the offensive line positions by far the easiest to play physically. You know, you're in the least amount of space there. I'm gonna say defensive end. I think D tackle is tough because you got to take on double time. You got to do some you got to do some shit. D end. See ball get ball. I mean, it is just easiest metal snap and go. One gap. You have one gap. You got one gap, you stay in that gap or you get the fucking football bud. Yeah. I don't know if I can play the end.

It's like I'd be free. I'd be a 100% finessed DN. No, because you got long arms. You'd use that long arms step. You'll gotta be a strong blue one on your step. I don't know why you think I have long arms, man. I just know you do. Just a guy like JJ Watt of frickin' throw his hands on my shoulders and I just be trying

to get to his breastplate. I can't. It's too far away. Because his arms are so fucking long. Yeah. Well, back to the Eagles' preseason. Final thoughts on the preseason. You guys went O2 and one.

Does that mean absolutely anything? Well, I mean, we didn't play a single starter. I don't think in any of the games, maybe on deep, maybe a couple of young guys. Yeah, I think that preseason games are important for evaluating young players or evaluating where guys are at. Like if we wouldn't have had any joint practices, we would have obviously played starters in the preseason games, but I think that the coaches got a chance to see all of the guys in those environments that they wanted to. And I mean, I love the preseason games.

I really do. They're fun, man. You see these young guys just fucking go out there, play some balls. It's awesome. And like, like seeing a guy carry something over that he's either been messing up or that, you know, he's learning the meeting room. We game planned all week about like, hey, if they do this, this is coming. This is what's going to happen make this call it's gonna set everything up like all those little things and seeing guys go out there and execute is just dude it is Such a joy to watch happen. So I Love the preseason games. I love watching guys go out there make name for themselves or go out there and have a great game

That nobody really knew what to expect from so I'm always in on the preseason games and I'm really happy with the way all the young guys did for the most part All right now All right around the league. Let's quickly touch on some stuff that's been happening. All right, let's do it After the Cowboys traded for trade lance Jerry Jones admitted to also wanting to draft Jalen Hertz. What do you think? It's a, I mean, that's a genius move, Jerry. Yeah. If you didn't already have a quarterback,

why the fuck does he say that with this starting? Oh, we had a quarterback and we drafted him. No comment. The Jerry is hilarious for saying this, knowing that Dak Prescott is one of the better quarterbacks in the National Football League and he's sitting here saying, oh, yeah, I would have drafted Jalen because he's a stud.

You're putting words into Jerry's mouth. Jerry knows exactly what he's saying. And he's saying that he's not sold on Dak. That's what he's saying. Is he not? Is he not saying that he's gladly saying that? I think that you can one can read into that if he wants to. I can't even read

It's simple math one plus what equals to oh my gosh Rams Matthew Stafford is allegedly struggling to connect with young teammates Hmm according to his wife's podcast. Yeah, I got what's uh What's Chad's sister's name? I forget. Oh my gosh. Kelly Hall. Well, Kelly Stanford, Kelly, sorry, Kelly Stanford, Kelly Stanford, and shout out to Chad Hall. Yeah, maybe anytime we get to give a shout out to Chad Hall, if you have a chat, I'm like, I love that guy. He's, I think he's in, he's in, uh, Jacksonville now. Yeah. No, he left the bill. He's with Jacksonville with Doug Peterson, no, he had them bills,

wide receivers only pop it. And now he's got an arsenal of receivers down there in Jacksonville. I can't wait. I'm looking forward to see what they do this year. Ah, right now. So Matthew Stafford got quoted. Kelly Stafford. Yeah, I guess it was from okay. They have a lot of rookies on their team. They're very young, but he's like, I feel like I can't connect. In the old days, you'd come out to practice, you'd shower, and people would be playing cards interacting But now they get out of practice and messing around during training camp and they go straight to their phones They say sir to him and shit. He's like no They say sir they called Matt Stafford sir in the locker room. I mean, that's what Kelly saying that's crazy

And he says no, we're on the same level here. You know, we're both playing in the league. I'm not sure. You know, let me get to know you. Oh, that's just making me cringe. To some extent, I see what he's saying. Do they call you Mr. Kelsey? I've got an old head. Oh, gee. Oh, you original gangster. Some, some, I, I don't know, some may say. No big deal. Yeah, I think when you're a trip, but when you're a trip, a low G, that's when you know you made it. No, I think most people just go by Kels. Um, maybe I can't remember.

Save here. Yeah, I mean, listen, I kind of get what Kelly's saying here and what, like it has changed. There's no question about it. I mean, people use the play cards all the time. There definitely used to be more, especially pre-COVID. I think it's just changed with the culture of the team, like, guys, just might not like play cards. Younger guys also just like playing on their phones

or playing games with each other on their phones. So to a certain extent, it's all changed. Batting on NFL games in the facility. You know, this is crazy what these young guys are doing out of it. And it does feel like when you're an older player, you get to a point when you're older where you have more in common with where you're at with your coaches than you do with some of the younger guys. And where you're at your life. Like, yeah, I did on the fucking head right now. Holy shit.

Yeah, three kids and in a wife, you know, it's I'm in a fucking head right now, holy shit. Got three kids and a wife. I'm in a different situation right now and pointing my life than I was when I said, but I think you have to make that effort. And I know in Matthew, he's making that effort 100%. You know, forging relationships, if they're not talking to you, you can change that. All you gotta do is go talk to them.

Nobody, unless you got just a straight bunch and like Jaggol's, you don't want to talk to you. Like bad people, which isn't the case in the NFL for the most part. If you want to talk to guys, all you got to do is just go talk to them. I guess pretty, it's pretty much that simple. If you want to get to know your teammates,

ask them questions. Go sit down and add a new table at lunch. Ask them no dumb questions, ask them some hypotheticals, ask him some good experiences. What's the conspiracy that'll get a good table going, man? Start asking about some flatters. Get some flatters, some alien questions from Papa Kelsey. Yeah. You can get some US government conspiracies. Oh, man, that always gets them going. And then you slowly work that into football and then you got a full-blown relationship. I think, you know, it definitely, it's changed so I understand what they're saying.

There's no question about that, especially when you've been in as long as Matthew's been in the league. Yeah, Stavra's going to get him going. I feel like the, the flat earth, it's crazy. The conspiracy comes up every fucking training camp. It is like the number one conspiracy or the number one like throughout training camp thing talked about. It is so fucking good.

I was on the practice field last year. And one of our coaches was walking by and I was like, man, how many people do you think on this field like believe the earth is flat? He's out. There's nobody out here that believes I'm like, now I think you, you be surprised. You start pulling, you be surprised.

And before I even finish that, somebody right next to me said, I mean, how you know it is. Like, I did, I did, I did, just somebody 10 feet away, heard Flareth is like,

oh shit, they're talking about it. Where's your proof? I thought, do you know? How do you fucking know? Dude, the one that, like, oh shit, they're talking about. Where's your proof? I don't know. You fucking know. Dude, the one that, like, I don't get right, I don't want to get down like a whole conspiracy revolution. Let's do it. Let's do it. The rest of the, no, it's the 92% is actually before we get off this topic.

Let's see. The only reason we made 92% is our Flat Earth. The only reason Flat Earth, like besides like, you know, photographs and all the other like scientific analysis that would lead to you, one believing the earth is round. Besides that, like, what is the conspiracy? Like what are we trying to do? Like why is the entire world bought into a global conspiracy to fool people and to think on the earth? It is not a globe, you can't call it global. We can't agree with Russia and China on everything

On the fucking flatters like we Like I just like what is happening It blows I just can't this is some good shit right here. It's crazy It gave there some heat of conversations about that flat earth god damn. It's nuts. Got a love conspiracies I don't even know how we fucking got there. Oh, yeah, shout out to Matt Stafford. Hopefully you can connect with the young guys a little bit more, yeah.

Ask me questions. Yeah, ask them. Maybe bring up a flyer. See what happens. We'll need to do a good conversation. I promise you, it never fails. So Kevin Hart is in a wheelchair after trying to race Steve Ann Ridley in a 40-yard dash.

She's the IG clip for you. You said we get out there, we run the 40, and he blew everything out. That sucks. Tor my lower abdominal, my adduters. Man, I don't even know what that is, but I tore them, I tore those two, I can't walk. This is 44.

Listen, Kevin, what are we doing, man? What are you racing? Why are you racing? You're 44, man. 44. I'm Kevin, what are we doing, man? What are you racing? Why are you racing? You're 44, man. 44. I'm faster than you, bro, is still a... I can't even... Oh, man.

I don't even want to race anybody now. I'm pretty sure if I went out and actually race somebody right now, I'm pretty sure I would do the exact same thing. Hamstrings just pop off of the bone. Listen, when you shut it down for a little bit and then you just willy-nilly go out there thinking you're gonna go run full speed. There's a whole warm up thing you gotta do after 30 years old that you gotta make sure.

You gotta start, you gotta foam roll, you gotta stretch, you gotta make sure you're hydrated. You are such a dweeb, you fucking foam roll. No, I don't, I'm making that up. That's like, that's like a whole thing. Here's your hand to a thought last, it's like, I really still don't do anything if I'm being honest, I'm, we know what you up. That's like that's fucking a thing. But here's your hand to thought that is still don't do anything. If I'm being honest, I'm

I mean, we know what you do. We know what you do because I do the same fucking thing. Listen, kids, just be willing to really run out their full speed. Haven't done it. I mean, maybe Kevin Hunt runs a lot. He does.

He's yeah, I know he works out a lot, but there's a difference between working out in sprint. Like there's nothing that strains your core hip flexors and adductors like running full speed, literally. You know what I mean? Like it is, that is an intense amount of stream using all the muscles. Yeah. It's not like, it's not the same as being on a elliptical or you can go on a bike and pedal in it. I just say Kevin Hartz on the elliptical. I mean,

I'm just saying, I'm down. He's running. He actually, he actually is. He actually is a very well tuned athlete. I've seen him challenge basketball players in one-on-one and have some success. I've seen him like do athletic things. Okay. Rams had him catching part returns the one time. He's actually a pretty good athlete. So this is just unfortunate.

If you haven't been doing it in a while, or you take a little bit off, it doesn't take much to pop something. Like Kylie freaking just went back with her high school team. She was trying to get in shape for alumni field hockey game. Nice. Full-bone hernia. Backlocked down. No.

It was actually the night before the coach joint practice. Kylie's backlocked up. And that might have been why I might have been a little bit more ornery. Because I've had to wake up four times getting bent in and out of the crib. So really it's all Kylie's fault for being a hot. I believe you you are a got sucker for believe Kylie. That's hilarious.

Yeah, not a alumni game. Did she end up playing in the alumni game or no, she's a hernias. She can't believe the it. Damn it. Damn it. No, it was the last alumni game ever because her college just got bought by Villanova. So there's no more. Man, this makes me really think about the, uh, the pros versus Joe's man. Dad, damn, that was a good show, man.

She bring it back, man. Dude, we really need to bring it back. Let's just start challenging Joe's. Just, just on our own, just new heights, new heights. I don't feel, I'm actually not being able to Joe. I have to be a pro. Yeah, you can't feel bad about your occupation. It's your professional aspect.

Is that our off season this next year? Are we already thinking about what's in store? So right now we're gonna go pros versus pros during the season and then get right into what? We could twist it into What game should we play that's what I'm saying we can twist it into like what Joe's do like pros versus Joe's But now we're in the Joe's occupation like we're Putting up drywall

I think we might it's just fucking we might it's just fucking hit gold here pros versus Joe's But instead of the Joe's doing the pros, the pros are doing the Joe's. I can't. I'm gonna let you know, I'm one of the least handy individuals on the planet. Well, if you're a handy, as a, yeah, I can only imagine how I fucking thrive in this competition.

This would be fun. I did fix the toilet once and I was pretty proud of myself. I found out that the little bobbler thing that like floats had like disconnected from the chain. So I went and got a load tweezers. No, I went and got a screw. No, it like holds papers together. Paperclip. Nah. Oh, put it through the chain. Janky's set a barber twisted it around. And it works now, doesn't it work like a charm? Pretty much nod. Oh, God, that's the Kelsey Kelsey way. Don't get it fixed. Just fucking Janky just make it janky. Yeah, I think that's a great I mean I mean on that I think that sounds like a fun time and

Education already on the hard knocks Aaron Rogers hit a Giants player with show me respect bro I don't even know who you all what the fuck did you just say show me some respect bro? I don't even know who you are. Oh yeah, I've said say? Show me some respect, bro. I don't even know who you are. Ooh, yeah. I've said that one once or twice. Yeah, it's a, I mean, it's a little cocky and a little, you know, at the same time, a valid statement. Yeah, I mean, I think it is.

Yeah, it's definitely a go-to for older players. That and I feel like it's that or it's about how much money somebody's made in their career that is the go-to for older players when he unguysects an up his A.A. Also show some fucking respect, you know. I don't even know what else to say. That boy here and is out there as just an old 20 year vet. We think more like, bro, you are that you were in diapers when I came into the league. All right. Show some respect to your elders. You're like a jeopardy answer.

I got to say who is? That's a good one. Is that good? Aaron Rogers was a jeopardy host. That's good shit right there. I was going with it. Man, when is dad going to get on jeopardy? And he's not good. I don't know why you remember dad being good. He was not good shit right there. I was going with it. Man, when is dad going to get on jeopardy? He's not good.

I don't know why you remember dad being good. He was not good at jumping. He was, I remember him just right there with the wings and the gal half gallon of branch and he's just blue cheese. I mean, he just dips and just, you have a biased memory. I've sat and watched him. He would get max four questions of four answers around max. He was not good choice.

All right, well, I'm a dumbass. I'll tell you what, I'm a huge fan of hard docs. I love the access that it shows you that it gets. I think it's dope that the Gets kinda, I think they agreed to do it. I don't even know if this is true. I think they agreed to doing it as long as they weren't like showing guys getting cut. Yeah.

I think that was too fucking much. There was a clip from when the Bengals did it that I still remember vividly of Jim Limpicot going in and cutting the full back. Yeah. I don't know. All I remember is the Bengals one and they cut him in the room he was in. It was a know. All I remember is the bangles one, and they cut him in the room he was in. It was a bad look.

I was not a fan of that one, but I think Hard Knocks has gotten better. And the last two years, I mean, between Detroit and now the Jets, they're doing teams that have unbelievable storylines and exciting people. So I think that they've been hard knocks is officially back. The last couple years.

They're killing it, man. Took a little bit of a hiatus, I wasn't, yeah. But, you know, it's, and maybe it's just the jets. Because the last one I remember with the jets was when Rex Ryan was there. And that one was a doozy, as well. That was awesome too, yeah. Rex. That was great.

Rex is awesome, man. I think it's all I mean, you get a character like Aaron Rogers man. It's taken some hits in the media about who he is as a person or whatnot, you know, you can say anything you want about it. It is extremely entertaining. I love watching Aaron Rogers because you can tell what kind of team media is,

you can tell how down the earth he is around around his teammates and in that setting So it's just it's cool to see man. It's cool to see. Let's Aaron Aaron is phenomenal in it Sauce Gardner sauce dog may. I mean, they just got a lot of great personalities and interesting players and characters Well moving on to preseason stamps So because the NFL season is here. We're bringing back the new heights stamp of the week, baby and interesting players and characters. Well, moving on to pre-season stamps. Hey! So because the NFL season is here, we're bringing back the new Height Stamp of the Week, baby. Stamp of the Week is brought to you by our friends

at State Farm. Hey! All right, Matt, to create an affordable price on car insurance just for you to check out the State Farm personal price plan. That's trademarked. Yes, it is. That's what TM means.

So I don't think about using that. State Farm personal price plan. For's trademarked. Yes, it is. That's what TM means. So I don't think about using that. Stay for a personal price plan. For the stamp of the week, let's show some love to the guys who showed out in camp. Trave, who you got? You know, it was really fun to see my god Justin Ross Come come to life, man. Why do severs second year in the league, but last year Missed his entire rookie season with a foot injury. I know what that feels like. I miss my entire rookie year with a knee injury. So coming in and making plays in the preseason,

that's kind of how I started off my career. And I know how exciting that can be. And I know how hard he's worked to get back to full strength and where he is right now. So, had some injury things go down in college as well as he was undrafted in 2022, but he is an absolute stud when he is healthy. And we saw that in the preseason and during camp, man.

So yeah, Justin, shout out to Tegga, your game new heights, baby. Jason, who you got? I'm gonna go up my man, Reed Blankenship. You know, I think he's in his second year. He's made a huge stride coming into this year's new defensive coordinator, Sean DeS blank and ship. You know, I think he's in a second year. He's made a huge tried coming into this year's new defense coordinator, Sean to science system. I don't know, he's just been everywhere. And I feel like we need him step up and he's done really, really well throughout training camp. And if for another, no other reason than the fact

that the social media team has gone on to start calling him Ed Reed, Black and Chip. And the, of course, incredible quote by my man, Slay on Reed, where he says, there ain't no milk check. He's good milk. He don't spoil. Oh, man, Slay, Slay's got some good liners, man.

He's the best. He's got some good liners, man. We got a whole bunch of bad mans. God, he's good for him. This is a this milk check man. That's sweet. All right That wraps up the first official episode of season two To all the 92%ers who are coming back for another season with us. We can't thank you guys enough We will have an incredible guest with us next week to help kick off the NFL season. Ooh, I am so excited for this one.

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