New Heights with Jason and Travis Kelce - NFL Rookie Learning Curve Explained, Witnessing Playoff Luka and Adam Sandler's Oscar Snub | Ep 92

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Starting point is 00:00:36 play side gap, comma number two. Like no, the center guard are going there, I got this motherfucker. It's just for communication when you come off the field. Like how many times is there on a playbook, it'll be a route, but in your head, you know that like, Hey, if this guy's, you know what I mean? I'm barely ever not running what's on the paper. Like I'm barely ever not running what's on the paper. I'm always running what's on the paper. If it tells me I got to go 10. Are you fucking bullshitting? Hahaha!

Starting point is 00:01:10 Welcome back to New Heights ladies and gentlemen. Presented by Way of Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Subway. Make sure you get those all new footlong sidekicks at the closest subway to you right now. Right now. We're your host, I'm Travis Kelsey, my big brother Jason Kelsey, coming from the University of Cincinnati, Cleveland Heights, Ohio's finest right here. That's right, that's right.

Starting point is 00:01:33 Or at least you'd like to think so. Subscribe on YouTube, wherever you get your podcasts. Follow the show on all social media, at New Heights Show with 1S, and check out our official fan club also at newheights show.com. Yeah, with one. Sorry, we're doing a I screwed up my setup, so I'm reading things off my phone. All right. Jason, once you tell the people was coming up.

Starting point is 00:01:52 All right. Now we got a great episode for you guys coming up. We're going to be talking about what it's like to transition into the NFL. We've got a fan conspiracy theory, which who doesn't like a conspiracy theory. Oh, and as usual, we're keeping tabs on Trav. So yeah, who knows where he was this week? Pretty sure everyone knows. But first, as always, new news. New news coming in, Hat.

Starting point is 00:02:20 That's right. Shorty Awards. New Heights has won the Shorty Award for Best Sports Podcasts at the 16th Annual Shorty Awards or Short Awards. Whoa. And we're also selected as an audience honoree for sports podcast. I don't know what that means. I don't know what any of this. We were also selected as an audience honoree for sports podcast,

Starting point is 00:02:42 which means it received the highest number of votes from the public. Nice. Thanks. 92 percenters. Thanks for giving us another award. This is big, full list of nominees, new heights with Jason and Travis Kelsey nightcap, Ocho and Sharp Shannon, the Joel Klatt show, Big Noon Conversations, and All the Smoke. All the Smoke, baby.

Starting point is 00:03:09 A couple of my favorite basketballs, guys. Is that a basketball one? Yeah, All the Smoke is, sir. All righty, Beer Bowl 2, The Deuce, 92 percenters. Remember there is still time to enter your name and for the, gosh, Dane, this is so weird the way he's written. We're killing it. Remember, there is still time to enter he's... We're killing it!

Starting point is 00:03:25 Remember, there is still time to enter your team in the second annual Beer Bowl. Link to the submission website in the description of this video or podcast. And also in new news, I need some hecklers. We need hecklers. Yeah. B-Fili is having their first annual golf outing. It will be June 17th of this year. So we're looking to have a lot of fun with it and do it a little bit different. And one of the things I'm pretty passionate about is I want each and every member that is golfing in that golf tournament to feel what it's like to play sports in Philadelphia.

Starting point is 00:04:01 The only way I know how to do that is to recruit some of the most ruckus, rambunctious Philadelphia sports fans and best shit talkers in the Philadelphia area to heckle all of them while they're teeing off. I think that's one of the great pastimes of being a professional sports player in Philadelphia is enduring the wonderful fans of Philadelphia during tough times. And they can really get to you, so I thought it'd be fun to let everyone experience that firsthand. This is gold. Problem is, I don't really know a lot of the best hecklers,

Starting point is 00:04:35 and I thought just asking fans for your recommendations would be the way to do it. I think this is a great idea and a great way to go about it. Like, really, like, just go out on the podcast and tell everybody, hey, if you want to talk some shit to some familiar faces. Yeah. AKA if you want Jason, because Jason just said like a week ago, two weeks ago, he doesn't want to do a roast because of this, this moment right here.

Starting point is 00:05:00 No, no, no. You know, go out on the ledge. It's way different. You know, just be like, hey, guys, come and roast me for a whole. No, no, no. It's way different. You know, go out on the ledge. It's way different. You know, just be like, hey guys, come and roast me for a whole. No, no, no. I'm not talking, I don't have any problem with people talking shit. I think the, I'm talking about like the roast things in front of TVs and how personal it

Starting point is 00:05:16 is. Whatever. We're not going to go. I'm just saying, I think that this would be a lot of fun for a golf tournament. Things that we're looking for. Yeah. I think this would be a lot of fun for a golf tournament. Things that we're looking for. Yeah, have you ever climbed a Greece pole or have you ever been arrested at the link or the vet? We'll take a link or a vet.

Starting point is 00:05:33 We'll take a link or a vet. You know you're pretty good if you're getting players to turn around at you in the middle of games. Yeah, if you get a player, if you break them, like the guys at, what was it, Eagles Niners game? Oh Niners game. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Got to got to old Nick Bosa, man. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:49 Joey got to Joey. Joey. That was Joe. Well, Joey wasn't playing, though. I'm talking about if you're on the field and you're on the bench, all of a sudden you're getting heckled so well that you have to turn around midgame. It's like, man, you're probably pretty good at talking shit. Have you has anybody ever got you somebody when I was playing in Oakland one time, I still had long hair at the time and they said, 62, you look like Bill Berge's daughter, which was pretty good.

Starting point is 00:06:17 That was pretty good. Did you smile? Did you laugh at it? We were all laughing. Me, Lane, all the guys, we were laughing our ass off. It was great. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we were all laughing. Me, Lane, all the guys, we were laughing our ass off. It was great. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. If it's good, I'll probably, that's actually a good point. I don't know if it's like,

Starting point is 00:06:32 if it's a bad shit talking or it's like a disrespectful one. Yeah, that's not what I'm looking for. If you have some good shit for me though, I'll turn around and give you a nod. Exactly. That was pretty good. That's a good one. Yeah, I agree. I'll turn around and give you a nod. Exactly. I thought y'all was pretty good. That's a good one. Yeah, I agree.

Starting point is 00:06:48 That's what we're looking for. We're not looking for people to be assholes or to make fun of people's families. We're looking for people that are actually funny. But if you're going to make fun of someone's family, just make a good one. No comment. If you would like to participate, please tweet at New Heights Show with why you are a definitive heckler or whoever you're nominating. You don't have to nominate yourself. If you know somebody, put them out there, her or her. We would love to hear from all of them. We are going to

Starting point is 00:07:14 select our favorites to participate who can also be there and want to participate. But yeah, I want to make this as fun as possible. Maybe we can film some of it and have like a highlight show reel. Maybe we'll show on New Heights or something like that. I would fucking love this. Right? I think it's gonna be great. Damn, we might need somebody from New Heights there now. Jets Jake, hop on a plane baby.

Starting point is 00:07:34 Jets Jake. Sorry buddy. Don't know what you thought you were doing June 17th. But you're in. Let's just give Jake an actual mic and he's probably pretty good at heckling. He's a Jets fan. Now we got to let him heckle at least a couple of people. Do we do it on a par three or what hole do we, I feel like par three closest to the pin needs to be a heckle hole.

Starting point is 00:07:54 It's definitely par three. It's got to be a one shot type deal. It's got to be, you know what I mean? Like you get one shot to hit the green or drop it close. It's 100% got to be a par three. We're turning around with other rules. What do you think about this one? Mulligans, if you want a mulligan, your mulligans, you know, they usually give you like little cards like you pay for them and it's like 30 bucks a mulligan or something like that. What if mulligans are like a beer and you have to turn in your cans at the end of the round? So, if you want a mulligan, you can take a mulligan, but you got to buy a can of beer and you got to chug that beer before you hit your next shot.

Starting point is 00:08:25 I think you should make it because mulligan, you could do a mulligan a hole and like between four guys, it's like 18 beers can be done. Yeah. I don't know. You might have to make it two. If you want a mulligan, you got to chug a beer. The other one I thought of was, sorry, go ahead. You're so tall.

Starting point is 00:08:42 No, you got to finish two beers by like the next two holes or so. What? I don't want people to be like stumbling over. I just want to have some fun with it. You know? Well then what's the point of saying you get the point of making it a beer? Cause then it's a choice. It's like, listen, if you want to take the mulligan, take the mulligan, but you got to drink the beer. Yeah. You're going to get hammered if you're going to keep taking mulligans.

Starting point is 00:09:01 Exactly. Which I mean, for me, I feel like it levels the playing field because there's a lot of guys that can drink really well Yeah, but they can't play golf. We don't play with handicaps. We tell everybody if they want a mulligan. They got a drink. Yeah We're just making the tournament a big drinking game beer bowl golf tournament I also thought about is there a hole that every member of your team has to finish a beard before the end of that hole And you have to turn in your can to the attendant hole at the green. Exactly. If one guy does it, all four of you have to.

Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah, I like that one. Or maybe it's if you all, we don't want to force people to drink, but if all of you finish a beer. Not everybody's in on drinking. If all of you finish the beer, then you get to subtract a stroke. I don't know. You're going to have to iron this thing out, but it does sound like a good time. What are some other ones that you've done that are fun?

Starting point is 00:09:50 Some of them you can go out and get a golf ball launcher. Like a... I've seen that. It's a gun. Those are fun. Yeah, it's like a gun or... John's has had that at his before. Those are good.

Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, I forget what else. I ain't got nothing else for you. A heck a hole is, I think that'd be a game changer. That'll be a fun one. That'll be a fun one. Yeah. That would just let people play golf, I guess. That's why they come. Yeah. I guess we just figured it out. Cool. Well, that does it for a little new news. Let's jump into fan mentions of the week.

Starting point is 00:10:18 All right. Now, let's move on to some fan mentions. Our first fan mentioned is more of a conspiracy theory from free love underscore free way on reddit This is the theory Travis Kelsey will be announced as part of the cast of happy Gilmore 2 I didn't even know There was a job opening for a happy Gilmore 2 If there is I'll be a fucking extra Get around a Happy Gilmore 2. But if there is, I'll be a fucking extra. You know, anything to just get around a Happy Gilmore or Adam Sandler film or set, count me in. Obviously, been

Starting point is 00:10:52 a huge fan of the Sandman. But yes, this is exactly what it says it is, a conspiracy theory. Oh. Who knows? A theory, theories can come true. Theories can be true and just people don't know about it. So, I might even be in the talking and nobody knows about it, but I could also not be in the talking. Well, the conspiracy comes from, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of evidence. There's three parts of this conspiracy theory. Part one, on the podcast, of course, Arnold alluded to the Kelsey Brothers being in LA to set up movie deals. Part two is Travis has been wearing this hat for a couple of weeks. Yeah, I mean, it was a great hat.

Starting point is 00:11:32 Part three is just Happy Gilmore 2 was just announced. So, there's really no evidence to support this whatsoever. Essentially. Other than the movie is getting made and I'm looking for movie deals. It's about what we have. We both love Adam Sandler. So, we're just in line with about a thousand billion other people. Trying to think of what role and maybe the old one. Would I be the jackass guy? I'd be the one heckling from the crowd.

Starting point is 00:11:54 I mean, that's a good role. Ooh, I did just do a game show. I did just do a game show. Maybe play the Bob Barker role. Oh, you're not Bob Barker. Let's be honest. You're not Bob Barker. I'm not even close. I'm not even close. That was wishful thinking. Dude, I really think you got to be involved with Shooter somehow.

Starting point is 00:12:13 Shooter? What about Shooter's caddy? Did Shooter even have a caddy? I don't even remember him having a caddy. I don't think he did, but now he might have a good one too. Listen, Happy's got his caddy, which is an iconic homeless guy that he dressed up in these caddy. I don't think he did but now he might have a good more to listen like happy's got his caddy Which is an iconic homeless guy that he dressed up and he's caddy informed Shooter who's like mr. Bigshot has professional tight end being his caddy. I think it works pretty good

Starting point is 00:12:35 I could be shooters caddy. You could be happy Gilmore's. I'm not taking no Homeless No, you fit the homeless. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:12:52 homeless Neanderthal caveman like That caddy was perfect Yeah. So, I can't come out. That's definitely your kind of move for sure. I don't wear underwear, so it's not my move. No, but think about this, I'm serious. I think if Shooter was going to have a caddy, it would be like some random celebrity and I feel like who better than to be the caddy than professional tight end Travis Kelsey? Because he's going to want to show off that he's Shooter McGavin. He's like, look, Travis Kelsey came in my bag. I think it's going to happen. I don't, look, I got Travis Kelsoy camera bag. I think it's gonna happen. Marshall. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:13:26 Stan No? You're not seeing it? Marshall No. But like I said, I'll do anything in the movie. Stan What is there? What else could there be? Marshall I'll be a part of it any way I possibly can. Stan It's hard to know without knowing the script. Marshall Such a good movie though. Stan It's a great movie. Marshall Such a good movie. Actually, it's making me want to watch it right now.

Starting point is 00:13:42 Stan Who's your favorite Happy Gilmore character? Marshall I'm a little biased, but Who's your favorite Happy Gilmore character? I'm a little biased, but I'm going to say Happy Gilmore. That makes sense. He's pretty good at it. He's so good. The loose cannon hockey player turned golfer. I fucking love that shit. God, it's so good. Chubbs is the best of me. It's only just begun. Begun.

Starting point is 00:14:03 What a magical. To live. Just go to your happy place. It's only just begun to live White Lace and Promises. Okay, James. Look, Hemp, got my hand back. Just go to your happy place. Golly, a lesson learned. Thank you, Happy Go-More. Whenever I'm upset, I just go to my happy place. What's your favorite Adam Sandler character that we're going to expand into other Adam Sandler films? Oh, damn it.

Starting point is 00:14:33 I know. I know what you're thinking. You thought of this and then right away you thought about Bobby Boucher. Dude, it is so... I don't understand how he didn't win. He was full character. I mean, I get it. It's like, it's a comedy.

Starting point is 00:14:48 You can't tell me anybody did a better acting job than Bobby Boucher in The Waterboy. Are you? There's only one other movie where, and it's a little, I want to say sillier, but he was full, he was full throttle, a completely different human being little Nicky little Nicky was oh my gosh little Nicky little Nicky waterboy he should have won an academy award for best actor and you can't tell me anybody that year who did a better job of acting like a Creole swamp, like football. I haven't ever thought about this, but what an amazing job that was.

Starting point is 00:15:36 Dude, when you watch it, it still holds up. It's so good. Who was the best actor that won that year? Dude, I have no idea. The Waterboy was in released in what year? November of 1998, one day after my birthday. How about that? Really? Yeah. The Oscar that that would have been up for would have been the 1999 Oscars. Right. I'm gonna say you're right on that. Best actor Roberto Benigni

Starting point is 00:16:02 won the award for best actor for his leading role in Life is Beautiful. They fucked that one up. Life is Beautiful? Man, I'm gonna have to watch it though. I'm not gonna before I judge it. I don't even need to watch it to know that he didn't do as good of a job as Bob Boucher. I don't even need to fucking watch it. There's no fucking chance. What did he play? Like a guy that was in love? Try playing a fucking Creole guy that's in love with his mama.

Starting point is 00:16:32 That doesn't know what love is. What's the actual plot? Oh, wow. Damn it. There goes that segment. We've just been informed it's a Holocaust movie. So. Yeah. So, I mean, he probably deserved it. I bet Adam could go and be in Life is Beautiful and do a pretty similar acting job as Roberto

Starting point is 00:16:55 Benigni. But if Roberto Benigni tried to go be Bobby Boucher, he would fail like a fucking miserable. You are attacking Roberto so bad. Nothing against you, Roberto. But I'm kind of in on what you just said. Was this Bobby Boucher's father that disappeared and then came back? It's your daddy Roberto! It's your daddy! It could be like Tiger Woods, it's your daddy! It's me! Roberto! Yeah daddy! If you were an Adam Sandler character, who are you most like? You want to do me and I'll do you? You can't do yourself. Alright. Yeah, I got you.

Starting point is 00:17:35 So, who's Travis as an Adam Sandler character? It's tough. He's got so many fucking movies. I know. I mean, god damn it. Bobby Boucher is, I feel like your character, but it's either Bobby Boucher or The Wedding Singer. I was going to go Wedding Singer maybe for you. But I'll take Wedding Singer. That's dude. There's so many fucking good movies. Good ones, dude. It's ridiculous. I thought of 41st Dates. Yeah, I thought you were going to go there. I love that movie.

Starting point is 00:18:07 I love that movie. That's Kylie and I's favorite like rom-com with Drew Barrymore action. Drew Barrymore. Yeah. I don't want to say this movie because it's not like an original Adam Sandler movie, but the longest yard quarterback from Longest Yard. Dude. Fuck yes.

Starting point is 00:18:22 That's that's I'll probably take that one. Paul Crew? Fuck yeah. I think we about nailed it. If I can't get in on Happy Gilmore 2, maybe I can get on 41st Dates 2. I'll do my second movie review. I did the movie review on the Twilight series. I'm flying out to LA.

Starting point is 00:18:40 I'll watch Life is Beautiful on the plane ride over there and I'll recap on if Roberto Benigni really deserved the Oscar over Adam Sandler. It's me, your daddy. All right. Well, we also got an email from my boy Brian Michaels. Former Cleveland Heights hockey teammate of mine had this picture attached also showing my hockey talents. Man, this was Squirt. This is a little AA Squirt championship we ended up winning. As I believe maybe tenure, nah, they've got to be like 12, right? No, you're in middle school. This is your last year of hockey ever. No, no, no. That's Peewees.

Starting point is 00:19:23 So you won that you weren't as right as Peewees right before you go to high school. Peewees right before. So you want to in Peewee and Squirt? Come on now, baby. You guys did. Dude, you know what I forgot? How much Daily Baker looked dead on Goldberg? Look at that motherfucker. Gosh, it looks just like before we hit our it was before we hit our gross spurts. Look at that motherfucker Before we hit our it was before we hit our growth spurts I was pretty heavy too. I mean shit I look like a goddamn goalie

Starting point is 00:19:55 If you guys couldn't see me Brad Shoger was Pumped up over there. Okay. I know a lot of the people in this photo, almost all of them, which I don't remember which one is Brian. Brian Michaels, which one's Brian? Brian is standing literally right next to me, kind of like leaning into the picture onto my shoulder to the left of me if you're looking at it. Yeah, Romanski's to the other side and then he's on the other side? Rosinski. Rosinski, yeah. Rosinski, Rosinski, Rosinski, Rosinski, my brother, Matt, Michael,

Starting point is 00:20:28 Chris Dietz in there, Andrew Branson, their little Fredo Shmurri, Adam Shmurri. Man, we got everybody. Who's that? Phillips, Andrew Phillips in that thing. You played with his older brother. Man, I'll tell you what, Mitchell Johnson as well. Man, we got the entire gang in Mitchell Johnson as well, man, we got the entire gang in here. Mr. Dietz, Mr. Ryder. So every, all the, all the Cleveland Heights

Starting point is 00:20:51 hockey guys, man, I just, I always wanted to just get the, get the crew together one, one more time and just go out and play some hockey. Come on out. I used to love it, man. One of my favorite, one of my favorite pastimes of forever, man. We got to get back out on the ice. We got to. JJ, the Watts, we're still in. We got to make it happen.

Starting point is 00:21:11 I hope you are. I hope you are. We got to make it happen. I'm not going to lie. Seeing JJ rip a slapshot is fucking impressive. No, he's got it. Dude, I went out, I tried to take Wyatt and Elliot out for ice skating lessons and it did not go well.

Starting point is 00:21:24 Oh no. They're too young still. They were not ready for it and they cried the entire time. You got on skates what? Six years old? Seven years old? Seven was my first time getting out there. You were younger than me. You were five.

Starting point is 00:21:37 I was five, yeah. I was really mighty mites. I was terrified though. I was crying on the bench. Had all the hockey gear on crying on the bench, and I went and go. It was like it was lava in my mind. I was just like, I'm gonna die. And then dad just like picked me up, threw me on the ice and like pushed me, gave me like a, what was it, like a walker. Sometimes they give kids like the, you can kind of like balance

Starting point is 00:22:00 yourself on the walker till you get your bearings. He said, just do a lap. Just do one lap. I was like, I did one lap and I looked and I was like, I'm going to do another one. The next thing you know, I throw the walker at him and I'm just like flying around having a blast because skating's fun as hell. Ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't gone, you should go and try and do it sometime soon. Dad was good at that. I'm telling you guys, but I'm really telling myself that. Maybe that's what I need to do. I need to get dad to go with me for the girls. Because he was always good at that stuff. He's good at, he's really good at that stuff.

Starting point is 00:22:38 I still remember the bike riding and when we were still in North Ridgeville. I can't get off the training wheels. I'm terrible. Dad's running with me while the bike's going. And then like multiple times until eventually, he's like, hey, look at me. And I look at him and he's not holding on finally. So I realize that I'm actually riding the bike. That was good at that stuff. Yeah. Big Ed is a legend. Yeah. You might need to just see him do it with Wyatt one time and take notes and go from there. Yeah. I don't know. Sometimes he might just have the magic touch. Some people just got it. I got Wyatt out there this year. I think I could keep doing it with Wyatt. Elliot,

Starting point is 00:23:12 I screwed up because I didn't tie our skates tight enough. And when she stood up, they were wobbly. And that's when she was scared. She had zero fear until she stood up with them skates on. And I messed that up big time. That was when she was like, yep, I ain't doing this. Eddie Babcock used to want to fucking kill me at the camps. When we were kids, coach Babcock, shout out to Eddie. Yes. When he was, I believe it was when he was still in high school. He was still in high school. Yeah. So he was in high school and he ended up being Jason's hockey coach, I believe, right? He did. He did.

Starting point is 00:23:46 And the high school team coach for a long time. Mm hmm. He used to hate it because I would be like, Eddie, can you tie my skates tighter? They're not tight enough. And then we go in and he tied real tight and I'd fucking go out for like two seconds. Eddie, my skates are too tight. Can you loosen them up? Just like this little fucking kid. Fucking, just trying skates the whole fucking day for this kid.

Starting point is 00:24:10 Eddie was so fucking electric. We used to play that baseball game. Oh my gosh. Oh dude, baseball on the ice, man. Yeah, man. Shout out to Hightockey. All you kids that are interested in doing it, man, send it. Do it. You'll love it.

Starting point is 00:24:25 You'll absolutely love it, man. Absolutely. Jared Lavender is the coach now, I believe, of the high school team. Oh, nice. Hell yeah. He played for the Missouri Mavericks for a little while out in KC. He bounced all over the place in semi-pro. He played a long time.

Starting point is 00:24:37 Oh yeah. Heights hockey legend right there, baby. That's right. And the Lavender family. Yeah, shout out to Brian Michaels, baby. It's been a minute, brother, but I appreciate you sending in that pic, man. Once a champion, always a champion, brother. PrizePix is America's number one fantasy sports app, and it's the most fun and exciting way to get in on the action while you watch your favorite sports and players.

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Starting point is 00:29:05 We're officially in the middle of the NFL offseason. But you know what never takes on? You know what never takes an offseason? Why am I fucking so stupid right now? Yep. You're killing it. But you know what doesn't have an off season? NFL social media, that's right. Since rookie camps and OTAs have started, a lot of NFL vets have weighed in on the transition from college to the NFL. All right, here's this Dan Orlovsky clip where he talks about an old Texans playbook. What do we talk about all the time when it comes to rookies and playing in the NFL? How quickly they can learn and then go apply the playbook.

Starting point is 00:29:43 And I thought it'd be cool for everyone to understand kind of what that process is for these rookies. Dan does a great job. He's very, he's unbelievable at explaining things. I think that, that he does it better than a lot. And it's always fun when you can dive into like what the plays look like, what the plays sound like, the different verbiage and everything that different teams use. I commend him.

Starting point is 00:30:03 I don't think I have a single playbook from any of my seasons. Obviously him being a quarterback, he's got those things. And he played back when it was an actual playbook. Now everything's on the iPad. That's what I was gonna say. And I don't need to carry around a playbook. Go paperless, I'm a big eco-friendly guy

Starting point is 00:30:25 He does an absolute great job And then so does chase Daniel chase Daniel took it one step further and broke down some plays from an old Sean Payton Saints playbook I Decided to pull out the offensive playbook for the Saints 2016 look how thick it is I love what Dan was saying because he was really focusing on the macro But I want to focus on the micro chase doesn't it does it great as well He makes it really simple kind of breaks it down and simplifies everything

Starting point is 00:30:52 To the to the average fan chase ended up breaking down a one play Dan broke down us essentially like What it's like everything that's in the book how thick it is. I will say the book looks enormous and they're kind of hyping it up like it's that hard. And I think it is hard for quarterbacks. Most of the time, you're not recalling all the information in that book at all times, like the way they install it. A lot of the information in the book really doesn't get used that much in the front half of it.

Starting point is 00:31:21 Like there's the plays, then there's like procedural stuff that you kind of just do so much. It becomes second nature procedural. How you identify defenses, terminology. There's a bunch of stuff in there that's like, and maybe it was just because I was with Stout. I've the way they like name blitz is like there was always like the the name in the playbook.

Starting point is 00:31:41 And if you have half a brain or have ever played football, it's like, oh, that's a wham blitz, like Will and Mike. Like there's a lot of stuff in there that is not that important. The importance of it is, is there. Like you said, you just have to know how to talk football. And a lot of the stuff that's in that book is based off of like, yo, we have to be on the same page when we communicate. You can't just say, oh, number 47 and 23 came off the edge.

Starting point is 00:32:07 You know what I mean? Let's just like, tell me exactly who it was in terms of who we called the mic and things like that. So. I hear you. Dan did a great job of talking about personnel's and that's where it really gets tricky for like wide outs and running backs, understanding the personnel's,

Starting point is 00:32:24 understanding, you know, where you are on the field and how you have to line up in terms of splits and things like that. The concepts were a little bit harder for me to grasp than the run game and the and like the like the pass blocking game. So if I'm in like protection, I think I think that especially from the tight ends like perspective like either you got the widest or it's like we're blocking this in a man scheme, you know, when it comes to like pass pro and things. All you got to know is are you getting the help from the tacklers, the tackle helping

Starting point is 00:32:56 inside to a linebacker? Is it solid or is it area? I know exactly what you're saying. Which is, and on the, on the flip side for center, that's your heyday right there. That's the bulk of your like. And you just have to be able to communicate from that point on. But I think that a lot of the receivers and running backs and like kind of like the skill players,

Starting point is 00:33:16 as they call them, the skill players, the the wide outs, tight ends, running backs. Anybody who touches the ball. Yeah, that's where it gets a little confusing. And it can be a a lot in terms of like the concepts that are being installed because you're typically the first like week to two weeks of training camp every single day, you're getting about 20 plays, 20 different concepts of pass plays. I'll be very honest. I feel like if you played football throughout college, you've run into

Starting point is 00:33:45 the vast majority of this stuff. Like maybe it changes a little bit. And there's all sorts of different systems and whatnot. But most systems have like semblances of these plays. So you're not like going in and seeing a lot of brand new stuff. You're seeing things that you did, something similar in college or in high school. Oh, like this is outside zone. This is what they call that. Or this is inside zone to the weak side. This is what they call that. This is what they call power. This is what they call six man protection. This is what they call five man protection. Like the biggest thing is the terminology and understanding what the names of all these plays are and how they're

Starting point is 00:34:22 coached, the techniques. So there is a lot, but I still think with how it's installed and maybe I think this because I didn't have an off season, like I got thrown in there. In the lockout year. Yeah. So I was, so my first year was 2011 was the year of the lockout. I didn't get a playbook until two days before training camp started. So, I went in completely not knowing what was happening. Within, I mean, it's amazing how fast you can learn this stuff, especially with the way they

Starting point is 00:34:56 install it. You're installing a few runs a day, so you get to focus on those runs and you get to really iron out four down, three down. Yeah. And then in a game, you don't run it like that whole playbook is not in for each game. In a game, when you actually go out and play, you have, yeah, you have like 15 runs in maybe tops, and that's including then you have a special a couple special run plays in like certain situations, route concepts. I don't know how many route concepts you guys have in for a game typically? I'm going to say maybe 60?

Starting point is 00:35:32 I don't know, that's a good question. It definitely cuts it down, but you got about 10 concepts per situation, from base to nickel to third down package to goal line to red zone. So I'm going to say somewhere between 40 and 60. In that scheme, now you're different because you're on the field all the time. You have to know all of it. I do think tight end is probably the hardest because not only you

Starting point is 00:35:57 have to know the route concepts, you have to know the blocking concepts, you have to know, so you have to know all the run scheme and all the passing game stuff. Yeah. And that's what you guys are the only guys. You guys are the only guy like even quarterbacks, even though they have to know kind of what the offensive line is doing, like even a chase is breakdown. He said like the tight end is going to kill the other guards kick out the end of tight ends, folding inside like they're like the quarterbacks aren't paying attention to like that minute detail of the run game. They're really focused on okay

Starting point is 00:36:27 What am I killing this for six or seven man box like blitz? Whatever don't have a good understanding of how it's supposed to be blocked, but I hear you on that They're not well, they know pass concepts They need to know like if they're gonna be hot and pass game But most of these guys don't know the intricacies of like the run blocking in tight end. You have to know it at least to a certain degree, like the actual like line calls that are happening between the tackle and tight end. You need to know if the center makes this call that now your job is changed within the

Starting point is 00:36:57 run scheme. Like, in my opinion, the tight end has to know more than anybody else on the field. Is that fair to say? No, I think the quarterback takes that. But I do I do think that it's it's fun. It's a fun challenge to have to be able to, you know, get asked to do everything. Yeah. And I didn't realize that until I moved to the position. And that's where I really started to find love for the game. It's like I was doing more than just catching the ball and giving it to somebody else.

Starting point is 00:37:23 I was like sticking my face in the fan and the run game, finding ways I can help guys out when they have the ball in their hands, running around downfield, getting blocks and getting open. I mean, I just had so much more fun in the challenge that the tight end position gave me than necessarily the quarterback position and everything that goes on with that world.

Starting point is 00:37:45 And I just yeah, I had a blast with it the minute I switched over. In terms of the transition from college to the pros though, the biggest thing is just like that communication with a whole new team, a whole new coaching staff because you want to be able to have those quote unquote educated conversations with your coaches. So talking to him and saying, oh yeah, that was a bison, gives him commute, that was a bison blitz or that was a wham blitz. That gives them confidence that you're seeing the field

Starting point is 00:38:12 and you know your job and you know what we're trying to get done as a team, as a unit. And all that does is just, you know, make you seem more valuable than just an athlete that can get the job done. Now you're thinking of it from a team perspective.

Starting point is 00:38:30 And I think that the communication with the coaches and the players around you is so much more valuable than some guys may make it. So everybody that's out there trying to learn a play a playbook Figure out how the coaches are communicating it because the biggest thing for me was understanding what we were calling defenses Yeah, well Andy is unique too. He doesn't just yeah like he uses the numbering system how we're identifying Coverages. Yeah, how are identifying the defensive front to how we're on 25 front 59 front Oh, yeah, and And I'm still getting quizzed on that shit. No, here's what happens. And you know, do you know why the numbering system with Andy

Starting point is 00:39:14 is like that? Instead of just saying over and under? Yeah, it tells you exactly what everybody's doing. It tells you where everybody's gap is. No, the reason it's not over and under is because it's easier for the guy putting it into the computer. The numbering system was put in because instead of saying, instead of saying under wink. It's all for documentation. It's all just to file it.

Starting point is 00:39:35 It's filing information. Instead of saying under wink, they just have to put down 25. Instead of saying overdink, they just have to put down five, nine. So like, now I got to relearn all this shit because you guys just don't want to type fucking shit. When did you find this out? I haven't thought it. I haven't thought this deep into it, but that's hilarious. Is this a theory or did you actually ask why we, why is it? No, somebody, one of the coaches said that that's why they got originated is because

Starting point is 00:40:02 guys when they were inputting it wanted to, I mean it allows them to go through more plays instead of having to write out full things. So I get you. That's funny as hell. But anyways, no, I thought Dan did a good job of explaining exactly how it happens. I thought they're kind of over overplaying the difficulty of it. In my opinion, you're a smart dude. I've seen some guys, I've seen people struggle with it and I'm not gonna lie, I've struggled with the playbook at times. Yeah, I mean, listen, I make mistakes. Anyways, I thought they both did a great job.

Starting point is 00:40:32 They did good. Chase threw me my first touchdown pass. We talked about it on his podcast with Trey Wingo or his show with Trey Wingo. And we, yeah, it was my first touchdown of my career, but it was a preseason touchdown. And it was like a two minute drill. He threw me a two minute all go special, which is like four verticals on Madden. I caught the ball and there was fucking nobody in front of me. Oh, we're on Travis Ron.

Starting point is 00:40:57 Go, go. Looking at this the first time I like after knee surgery, I had actually like tried to like run away from a bunch of people trying to get up. Man, I didn't know I could run that fast. Haven't ran that fast since either. Shout out to Dan and Chase for breaking those things down and doing a great job of it. And good luck to all the rookies trying to figure out the playbook. Hopefully Jason gave you some confidence that it's not that hard.

Starting point is 00:41:21 It'll be fine. Listen, just. He learned it in two days. You'll be all right. Well, I learned the learned it in two days. You'll be all right. Well, I learned the first install in two days and then I just learned the next install the next day and then the next install the next. That's why I like, I, and I like, like Dan brought up a good point that you install it multiple points.

Starting point is 00:41:36 Like you install it all from square one, one in the off season. They're going to reinstall it again for many camps. They're going to reinstall it again for the season. And then each game you're doing install. So if you can't get it after all these installs, I don't know what to tell you, brother. We got to figure it out. All right. Come on. What are we doing at night? Don't get me wrong. There's going to be crazy situations that come up that you're going to miss because you're not like aware of like exactly what to do in all these situations.

Starting point is 00:42:14 Yeah, I mean, that's why you need the reps. Yeah, that's why I need the reps. But I think for the most part, learning it is not that difficult. The biggest thing is like the terminology. That's the biggest and correlating all the like checks and like, what are we calling this? What are we calling that? And how are we talking about it? And that takes a little bit of getting used to. Just got to learn the terminology, be able to communicate, maybe. I think the only old playbooks I have are from Cincinnati. I have like a Dantonio playbook. Yeah, I think I have a Brian Kelly playbook somewhere for you, man. I'd love to look at that thing. We had playbooks early

Starting point is 00:42:48 When I was in in Philly, but then we switched over. I think it was like Doug was actually second or third year Yeah, in KC. We started using it the iPad that is yeah, I think Doug might have been the first one that it was all iPad Maybe we had physical ones. I don't know. I always preferred the physical like playbook. QBs also have physical playbook for sure. Yeah. There's something about like turning the papers and stuff like that, that it's just like easier for me to take in the iPad. But by the time we went to iPad, I,

Starting point is 00:43:22 I never looked at the playbook one time. Yeah. You big notes guy. This is the other thing. Like when's the last time you actually looked? I've not looked at a playbook. I mean in years. You installed it three times a year, your entire career. You got to look over your, you got to look over your, your, your work, you know, you've had the same tight end coach, the same head coach. Like you're not installing anything new and you're going to go over it. Yes, we are. No new and you're gonna go over it in the meeting. Yes we are. No, you're gonna go over it in the meeting though. Every year Andy Reid's got a fucking no cards that are like the yeah the little no cards. Yeah I got you there's some new ones but

Starting point is 00:43:54 it's not like. He's got a fucking what so many new ones already we've got like a hundred new plays that we've just been installing in the off season. You are over exaggerating this. No, I'm not. We might not use all of them right now, but he's definitely installing them and like, like seeing like which ones he likes and which ones like Pat feels most comfortable with and which ones look good on on on film. All right. Well, it's different in the past game in the run game. There's like maybe like four or five new concepts a year where you're like run game. Yeah. It's really run a counter inside zone outside zone.

Starting point is 00:44:29 Well, we got a lead hat. We got a fullback going in there. All right, cool. We got that one. I have heard inside zone installed a fucking thousand times and I always hate the way the playbook installs it. That's another reason I don't look at the playbook is because it's fucking stupid. Like nobody in their right mind goes out there on inside zone. It says play side gap comma number two. Like no motherfucker, the center guard are going there. I got this motherfucker. Oh, the tackles going there. I got that motherfucker. Like I'm not going through like the playbook definition. Oh, I got zero. You're not walking up to the line. Oh, this is the 59 front. So we got to. But that's not, I'm just like, okay, we're running inside zone. Where's the first guy

Starting point is 00:45:11 fucking here? Yeah, we're, we're, we're doubling to that guy. You guys figure the rest out. Like you said, it's just, it's just for communication when you come off the field. That's all, that's all it's for. It's just cause they have to have it and they have to have a beginning point. But like once you've already learned it enough, like I'm not going to go back and learn the other way. Because then it's like fucked up. It's like, no, it's not how it is. It's like this. It's like fucking I'm not thinking of it like that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:38 Do you think about it with routes similar? Like how many times is there on a playbook? It'll be a route where you're breaking at whatever yardage, but in your head, you know that like, Hey, if this guy's, you know what I mean? I'm, I'm barely, I'm barely ever not running what's on the paper. Like I'm barely ever not running what's on the paper. I'm always running what's on the paper. If it tells me I gotta go 10 yards breaking, I'm going 10 yards. What are you fucking bullshitting?

Starting point is 00:46:08 Who are you bullshitting right now? What do you mean? I'm just doing what Coach Reed wants me to do. I'm not fucking doing anything else. But even the ones where you're not freelancing, like how many times is it for all of the guys, I know you're fucking, but this is a legitimate question. There's no just like freelance, all right?

Starting point is 00:46:24 There's times where I get confused and I just, I end up in the right place at the right time. Can we get back on track? There's no, what for everybody, like any ex receiver, how many times is he on paper? It says to run it and break it 10, but everybody just knows that if it's this coverage, you're going to push it in like to 12 or you're gonna do this It's that's every single route in the playbook. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it needs to be that But if we're gonna run routes first air, you better fucking run it like that Gotcha like it says on the paper like if there's nobody out there I'm running it we're doing exactly like the paper just so we can get timing I can feel what it what the timing feels like of me running, hitting the break or getting to a

Starting point is 00:47:10 certain part of the field as the quarterbacks are getting ready to deliver the ball. That's when you're doing routes on air and you're just working in the off season or you see Pat thrown with the wide receivers with no defense, that's what you're getting down. You're getting down the timing that it's taking for you to get the ball on this certain play. You know what I mean? I think that's the biggest thing. And those lines on the paper are like that's essentially why they're there. Obviously, every single route, in my mind, every single route has to change depending on what coverage we're running it against. Yeah, I guess this is getting at what I think I'm trying to get at. And I think you're saying it really well. My biggest advice to all the rookies

Starting point is 00:47:55 learning these plays and learning your playbooks for specific plays, try not to learn your job. Try to really think of the play as a concept and understand what's happening because you shouldn't go on a field and think I'm the guard. I have my play side gap, comma, number two or one on a zone play. Like you should think of it like, hey, this is weak inside zone and this is how we're going to run it. Like I am going to step with my play side foot, but if the center calls this combo, I'm running that one. If the tackle needs help, I'm going to indicate his inside. Like you need to think about what is happening

Starting point is 00:48:35 in the overall structure of the play. And that will help you regardless of what the fucking playbook says. I'm just being honest. Like it's more important that you understand what we're trying to accomplish as a unit than what your rule says in that and in that like sheet. You'll naturally with reps get and understand those rules. You'll run something the coach will come over to you like, Hey, if it's covered to or if it's this certain coverage, I need you to run it like that. Yeah. As long as you're open ears on the practice field, you're present while other guys are running routes.

Starting point is 00:49:07 And when you're when there's a film after practice and you're watching the film and everything and you just be open ears and how everything's being taught to everybody in the room. Right. You know, like I'm listening to Coach Reed talk to the running backs about, you know, foot placement in the run game or I'm listening to the I'm listening to coach heck and how he's teaching these tackles to Pull or how he's teaching these tackles that you know Square up a guy in the in the pass game like I'm listening to everybody

Starting point is 00:49:34 Because I know that I there's always a chance that I'm gonna be put in a position like that and I want to be ready For it right, you know As long as you're open ears and you're understanding like the grand scheme of thing and what the team is trying to do I think it's like you said you'll learn those little intricacies of like the difference like of like running a route versus a certain coverage You're naturally just gonna develop that instinct but understanding the grand scheme of things from the install That was I think you were you're you're dead with it. You're spot on with that one. Yeah, we have one play that Stout still doesn't know how to write rules for.

Starting point is 00:50:09 And it's the funniest thing in the world. He installs it every time. He's like, yeah, just run it. He's like, I don't really know what to write down for rules. So, I just write down this, but everybody kind of knows what they're doing. We got a little teachpe for you guys this week and this is perfect. This is me being an absolute idiot and just being at the right place at the right time, Jason. Hey, I love it. I love it. This week, we're breaking down one of my catches from last year's playoff games.

Starting point is 00:50:36 We kind of talked about it after the Baltimore game last year in the playoffs, but Teach Tape is brought to you by Simply Safe. Hey! There's no safe like Simply Safe. There you go. That's good. Clip from at Emry Guy. Travis's crazy catch against the Ravens in the AOC Championship game.

Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah. Alright. Well, you see me circled right there. So I guess let's start it from here. It's third and five. Basically a three by one, a common formation in our offense. This was a play that had a kill to it. So Pat actually in the huddle gave us two plays. There was the first play and then he was, and then if

Starting point is 00:51:10 he sees a coverage that he likes and wants to change the play to the second call in the actual call in the huddle, he'll come up to the line and tell us, he'll give us a signal or say a word that'll then change the passing concept to another play. I was thinking it was a different play. Yeah. Then you got Pat Mahomes just back there with his eyes on you running around for his life and just putting the ball out there.

Starting point is 00:51:36 There's really no teach tape other than when Pat Mahomes has the ball, do not give up on the play. That's the biggest teaching point here. You got Ravens guys running into each other. You got our offensive line, Nicky Allegretti doing his job. Everybody in the offensive line is blocking their ass off. Yeah, they're blocking their ass off right now. And I'm over here picking my nose, not knowing what I'm doing. And then, yeah, once you lock eyes with Pat, you're like, oh shit, he needs me. So I started running around right at the last second, right before Pat gets his knees chopped

Starting point is 00:52:07 out from under him, I kind of spring loose or at least get between my man and Pat so I can kind of box him out for the catch. This is crazy right here. The fact that Pat even threw this ball with the defenders back to him, I commend him. Is that why he's doing that? Because he's like, you're really not that open. He just knows because the defender's back is to him that you're going to have a chance to make a better play on the ball. I think that's notorious for a lot of, a lot of quarterbacks. Um, defenders back to you. Um, and my eyes on him, I think that's an

Starting point is 00:52:39 advantage for us, especially the guy with an arm like pad or, um, any of the really good quarterbacks that can just place it. Yeah, absolutely. And it was third down, he wanted to give us a chance. He knew he had no chance of getting the first down with his legs at this point. He's got all four or five defenders on him. We know that there's a kill involved. You missed the kill.

Starting point is 00:52:59 You're running the wrong play. Let's take an opportunity to talk about scramble drill because that's really what this turns into, right? It's a broken play. Let's take an opportunity to talk about scramble drill because that's really what this turns into, right? Is like, it's a broken play. Yeah. Like, so each, each player doesn't know where to go. We're talking about the timing of the play. Typically seven step drop from under center is like seven step in a hitch. You know, that's, that's the longest Pat's going to like let a play develop essentially in it or a quarterback is going, let a play develop essentially in it, or a quarterback is gonna let a play develop.

Starting point is 00:53:27 You'll go through your progression, seven step drop, five, five and a hitch, five and two hitches, and all of a sudden, clocks ticking, defensive line is like they're rushing the passer, right? I gotta make a decision. I either gotta go somewhere, hit the check down, get out of the pocket to try and make something, shake or just take off with my legs.

Starting point is 00:53:44 So the quarterback after that seven step drop or after like that, the initial play is over with. Now I'm on to a completely different mindset as a scrambler, as a guy with a broken down play, it becomes more of like backyard football where, yeah, you got to understand the coverage and where guys are at in terms of like what the past concept is. But I knew that I screwed up the play initially. So I'm kind of just like feeling out like where everybody is. Pat kind of starts to get on the run. It's just like, all right, just let me give him somewhere to throw the ball. Some like see which which way he's rolling out.

Starting point is 00:54:19 See where everybody else is, is a man, is everybody latched on? Is anybody latched on to me in terms of a defensive coverage? Is somebody, am I just in Frank, Frank air? You know, can I find an open space somewhere on the field? You try not to have your eyes leave the quarterback just in case like, I don't know, he wants you right now, but there are times you can kind of peek around and see where everybody else is at. Like I was doing here. I'm not going to take credit for this. This was, I actually, I'm, I hate, I hate that people are even giving me credit.

Starting point is 00:54:49 It was a great time catch. And a great catch. But I completely screwed Pat over. I'm supposed to be coming over the middle here on time and Pat's just like kind of waiting for me to get open over the middle of the field and I'm running the wrong route. So I am, I hate that this is even a teach tape thing. If anybody watching this, the teaching lesson would be one, never give up on a play when Pat Mahomes has the ball and two, get in your fucking playbook, Travis. I love it.

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Starting point is 00:58:55 We did. We actually we went to the shore, but we're going to talk about the one everybody wants to know about. That's Travis got out of the house. Yep. You're not going to believe it. Haven't been in the house. Yeah. This isn't of the house. Yep, you're not going to believe it. Haven't been in the house. Yeah. This isn't even my house. I think we can all.

Starting point is 00:59:09 This is just a random theater somewhere on the West Coast. You'll never find me. You'll never find it. Well, Trav, before that, you stopped by Dallas this week. That's right. Yeah. You stopped by Dallas to watch the Stars. Yeah, NHL NBA playoffs baby. NHL Western Conference Finals. Stars vs. the Oilers.

Starting point is 00:59:34 Yeah, both Western Conference Finals. Yeah. Well, yeah. But we're gonna start with Stars. How'd the game go? I don't know. Was it a good game? It was awesome. The Stars came out scored early. So did Edmonton literally seconds after they scored their first goal. Edmonton came back and like threw one in the net. And then it was kind of a dead period. The stars were just knocking at the door the entire game though, man. It was so much fun. It was like they had you at the edge of your seat. The puck is just like slow motion hits a crossbar like kind of just goes across the crease with nobody in front

Starting point is 01:00:05 of the net. It was like that the entire night and then finally they started cleaning up some of the rebounds, some of the shots around the net and put two in. They had an empty netter. They pulled the goalie and had like almost a full length empty netter. Oh really? Yeah, it was awesome. Those are fun. It was a fun.

Starting point is 01:00:25 It was a fun time. I'll tell you what, man. Dallas, I know you aren't big fan of the Cowboys and all that. That that city just is so much fun, man. Dallas is such a it is, man. It is so much fun. Everybody. Everybody was everybody was fucking awesome. Running into people before the game, during the game, even after the game, at all the restaurants and kind of had like a little pregame with my guy Blake Bell in the game

Starting point is 01:00:56 before the NBA game or the Mavs game. And just everybody was awesome, man. And Dallas is about as legit of a sports town as it gets, man. Both those games had the arena absolutely rocking, man. And it was a good time. I love playoff hockey, man. There's nothing better than some playoff hockey, dog. It's the best. Dude, so much fun.

Starting point is 01:01:17 Who'd you end up at the booth with? I saw Cole Hamels was up there for the Philadelphia Wolf Series. Yeah, Cole Hamels was in that thing. Shout out to Cole. Bryson DeChambeau got some free time from the live tour. Yeah, it was it was a good time, man. We were up there having some fun. Got to meet Marty Turco, old time stars goalie legend in the in the stars

Starting point is 01:01:39 organization and oh, yeah, ran into Dirk Nowitzki, baby. Nowitzki, Nowitzki, however you want to. I don't know how you pronounce it, man, but Dirk is he's the man, dude. Just the coolest dude you could ever meet. Got to talk to him about a lot of the a lot of his championship runs and just how much of a fan I was. And yeah, it was cool meeting a man. He is an enormous human being, as you would expect a seven footer be.

Starting point is 01:02:05 But always shocking when you walk up on one of those... Mavis. It was a gangly... Yeah. Dude, just so big. Yeah. But yeah, it was... The stars game was fun, man. Well, I guess meeting Dirk might have been a little bit of foreshadowing. You ended up at the Mavericks-Wolves game the very next night.

Starting point is 01:02:25 Which one was more fun, the Mavs game or the Stars? Man, as much as I love playoff hockey, that fucking Mavs-Wolves game was so good, man. Kyrie went off. And dude, Kyrie out there dropping 30 in the moccasins, man. Dude, so good, man. Listen, man, I couldn't be more happier for him the way his career has been. Obviously bringing a championship to Cleveland and the

Starting point is 01:02:50 ups and downs he had not only in Cleveland, but Boston and New York and all that whatever happened. He's he's absolutely killing it. And he looks like he's enjoying the fuck out of it. Him and Luca are one of the best combos I've ever seen on the on the court. I mean, they just the team compliments each other so well, man. The Mavs really did a great job of putting that team together. PJ Washington's a great piece for them. And then on the other side, man, the Wolves are a dangerous fucking team. Each one of these games have been so goddamn good.

Starting point is 01:03:23 You can't say enough about what Anthony Edwards type of basketball player is dog when he Rose up and had that dunk and I think it was like the third quarter. Oh My fucking gosh, I haven't I haven't seen athleticism like that Yeah. Like the NBA NFL debate with that guy on a football field. Oh my fucking gosh. There's no, yeah, it's not, it wouldn't be fair.

Starting point is 01:03:50 It wouldn't be fair. That dude fucking took off from what it felt like 12 to 15 feet away from the rim and was still elevating when he dunked the ball. It was unbelievable, man. The Mavs game was off the hook. The Wolves are such a good team, and Dallas is just playing flawless at the end of basketball games, man.

Starting point is 01:04:11 We had an interesting reception on the Jumbotron, but the Cabs, Cowboys fans were not too happy. I got booed twice, it's whatever. I get it. I get I'm not from Dallas. I'm just kind of like an innocent bystander. I don't know. Maybe they don't know. Maybe they don't. I don't know. They just don't like the chiefs. I don't know. Is it? If they were showing you, they had to be showing Pat too, right?

Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah, but it was like, you know, they'll throw the name underneath and like try and specify who they're showing. Like they showed me. I got caught off guard because I was trying to take a selfie with some people around me. And Pat like kind of like taps me. I was like, what's that like? I was like, oh shit, I'm on the Jumbotron and not heard all the booze. I'm just like, oh shit, I'm getting booed. Okay. Guess this is happening. Nice. Thanks. Nice to see you guys Dallas. Appreciate the warm welcome. And then they showed Pat and everybody was like, yeah! The hometown kid, man.

Starting point is 01:05:06 Best football player in the world. I grew up a huge Jason Whitten appreciator. The Cowboys were always the fucking boys when they had Deion and Emmett and dude, I fucking, I used to want to be a star, man. Shut up. Stars. I used to want to be a star. I did used to want to be a dollar star, but I also wanted to be a cowboy there for a little bit.

Starting point is 01:05:28 Stars on Mars. Dude, stop saying that. You never wanted to be a cowboy. Why would you have wanted to be a cowboy? Because they were fun as hell. The team was electric. Who? What team? Big personalities. What team? Back in the 90s. In the 90s, they were not bad. They're pretty good in the 90s. But like,

Starting point is 01:05:46 I just remember having like action figures of like the stars. Which ones? I just named them all. Well, the ones you named weren't on those teams. Witten wasn't around on those teams. Dion and Michael Irvin. They were definitely there. Emmett. Emmett. Yep. Or Aikman? Aikman, yeah. I'm gonna be doing Monday night with him. Heard of him. Are you trying to call my bluff right now that this never happened? This never happened. You never wanted a crowd boy. I did. I did. I fucked it up though.

Starting point is 01:06:17 No, they fucked it up. He didn't fuck up anything. No, I don't know. I fucked up the interview. All right, I digress though. And I think I also might need to find an outlet because I got like 15 percent. Well, let's hurry up then. We're almost there. Yeah. Shout out to Dallas, man. I had a fucking blast. Love the NHL and NBA Western Conference Finals and always good to see when you go and, you know, enter somebody else's arena to see that thing absolutely rocking and the home team got a win. So I was rooting for the Dallas Stars for sure. The Mavs and Timberwolves, I was kind of in between, but I can't fucking root against Kyrie

Starting point is 01:06:57 and Luca, man. Those dudes are awesome. I was more there for a good time at the Mavs game, but I was cheering on the Stars. Dude, there's one thing too, was I didn't know you're the same exact height as Luca. What is his listed height? He's I mean, he's probably six, six big dude. I think he's got me by a little bit. Now, dude, you're fucking right next to him. You guys are the same height.

Starting point is 01:07:19 I mean, basketball is Slovenian. It's my Slovenian brother right there. These basketball dudes be listing their heights. A little bogus. I always thought you'd be too short to play like the three position in the NBA. Like NBA's three is like a legit six, seven, six, eight, right? Yeah. But not anymore.

Starting point is 01:07:37 They all said you'd be too short to play center in the NFL too, man. Maybe we fucked this up, man. You could be in the NBA right now. I could be I could be somewhere overseas playing because you're sick. You're you're just you're six. Connor Barwin's Italian team. What? You're legitimately six five. Yeah. Well, six, four and seven days. That's what the kind of my guy. Yeah, but that's a six. We'll round up an eighth of an inch. Luke, six, seven. If you're six, in 7'8". Dude, he was just chilling.

Starting point is 01:08:06 He was like, he was right here. He wasn't like standing all the way up. I ain't hearing it. Great dude though, man. Oh yeah, seems like it. Seems like it. Big fan. Jason, did you get out of the house Memorial Day weekend?

Starting point is 01:08:15 Well, we went to Sea Isle. We definitely went to Sea Isle. Went to the beach, had a lot of fun with the girls, ate a bunch of beach food. Nice. Yeah, we had a great time. There we go. All right, nice man. Glad you guys got over to the shore, man.

Starting point is 01:08:29 I miss the shore. The shore is fun. It was good to be out there. It's the first really big weekend of the year. So, all the businesses are back up and running. So, yeah. I love it. It's like you never left.

Starting point is 01:08:40 Heard you guys went over to Uncle Bill's. How'd you hear that? Who told you that? Listen, I got eyes everywhere, baby. Time out. Who told you we were going over to Uncle Bill's. How'd you hear that? Who told you that? Listen, I got eyes everywhere, baby. Time out. Who told you we were going over to Uncle Bill's? Yeah, I got eyes everywhere. Got them chocolate chip pancakes. Best pancakes in the land. They are good pancakes. Which one were you at? I know there's a couple of them over there. Yeah, we used to go to the Uncle Bill's that was in Strathmere and then that one closed. So,

Starting point is 01:09:02 now we either have to go to Avalon or Ocean City. So we went to the one over in Avalon this weekend. Made the trip over the bridge. Oh nice. You had to pay a dollar? I had to pay, I forget what it is. I think it's two, they might have upped it. I don't know. We got the- Damn. The door's getting fucking pricey. Did they keep it? Two dollars across the bridge? Fuck.

Starting point is 01:09:24 Uncle Bill's seven mile special was 15 bucks. Damn. Yeah, I know. Right. That shit is good, though. Seven dollars. Well, I paid it. I paid it. Shout out to Uncle Bill's everybody at the shore and make sure you guys get fired up for that beer bowl. Deuce. All right. Let's move on to some no dumb questions.

Starting point is 01:09:44 Hey, that sounds fun. No dumb questions, let's move on to some no dumb questions. Hey, that sounds fun. Now for some no dumb questions because there's no such thing as dumb questions, just dumb people like two jabronis you're staring at right now. No dumb questions is brought to you by Uncrustables, the best part of the sandwich. How about that? From Heather Bradley on threads, if you could temporarily live in any board game Jumanji style like the movie movie it comes to life Which game would you choose? This is actually pretty good question. Let's do it

Starting point is 01:10:10 I'm gonna go ahead and say fucking Jumanji. Yeah, I mean Jumanji is pretty damn good. That'd be a fun one I feel like I'm already living a monopoly. I feel like I'm not to be like We're already doing that the older I got yeah the yeah, the older I got, the more I understood. Oh, wow, this is like the life game. Oh, now I get it. Battleships would not be fun. What? Dude, I don't want to be on a freaking naval war, getting sunk.

Starting point is 01:10:37 The thing is, is that Battleships is just a, it's just a guessing game. Yeah. There's no real like strategy. It's just kind of like, yeah. I don't want to live in it, though. I don't want to get sunk and then drown. That doesn't sound fun. Like I'm out on the ones that I'm not going into risk or battleships or.

Starting point is 01:10:54 Oh, it was a fun little board game. I'm already doing that one. So I don't need to go there. Which ones would be fun to go to? I think you strike me as a guy that would love to go into clue. I did love that fucking game growing up. You love murder mysteries. Yeah, you'd be all over trying to figure out who done it. I mean shit Kylie killed Jason in the basement with the sword.

Starting point is 01:11:15 I know. I know. I know. I know the girls would all prefer Candyland. That's where they would want to go. Yeah, I can't. I can't do that much candy. That's too much I'm not going into candy. I'm in on candy, but not like that operation

Starting point is 01:11:30 I'm not operating on nobody or getting operated on no, I really wasn't in on that one either What other board games are there? What am I missing? Yeah checkers chess? No, that's not you can't be in that game No connect for no hungry hungry hippos. No, no I got yeah, I'm going to maji though, man Jumanji does sound like the most fun. I mean they made a whole movie off it and then they made another movie of it I mean, it's then they made another movie out there's a third one. I'm pretty sure there's three. Yeah Am I mistaken or they're only two well Jumanji now. Jumanji, though, isn't really a board timeout. What are we talking about?

Starting point is 01:12:07 Jumanji is not an actual fucking board game. Yeah, but it's it's a Jumanji style. It might be now, but you can't say Jumanji is not a board game. Yeah, that's a good point. I'm just thinking I would want to fucking relive that movie. It's a great movie. Yeah, I guess Monopoly Monopoly sounds like the finest. Is there anything we're missing? Probably. Yeah. I guess Candyland. Monopoly sounds like the finest. Is there anything we're missing? Probably.

Starting point is 01:12:25 Yeah. I guess Candyland. I got nothing. Nice, you're going Candyland. I mean, it just sounds like the most magical place. And it doesn't seem like it's too serious. So we're just going to have some fun. Nice. Can't die. Yeah, I'm just here to enjoy it. Well, die from diabetes, but... That about does it for No Dumb Questions, brought to you by Uncrustables. Uncrustables,

Starting point is 01:12:45 the best part of the sandwich. Oh no. How close are you? 10%. Alrighty, new heights show and tell a new segment. At my beach house, there were some gifts waiting from some patrons. So I thought we'd share them. Ooh, what you got there, bud? The first is we were walking around and we saw a lemonade stand. And big lemonade stand supporter. Dude, right? So we were going to support on the way back.

Starting point is 01:13:16 We ended up not supporting it. So I'm kind of upset that I never got my lemonade. But we were walking to play pickleball and we saw them and they got a whole racket going on there. They said, yeah, we set up right after church lets out. The church is right there and we saw them and they got a whole racket going on there. They said, yeah, we set up right after church lets out, the church is right there and everybody comes by and gets some lemonade. I was like, that's a pretty good system you guys got going on there. And I came back to the house and I was a little lemon before I left earlier today sitting

Starting point is 01:13:38 on the note. And the note read, Dear Jason Kelsey, thank you for stopping by at our lemonade stand on 44th Street. We would like to donate some of our money to the Eagles Autism Foundation. Go Birds, Kevin, Lucas, Olivia, Nathan and Charlie. How about that? Big old family. I love that.

Starting point is 01:13:58 Dude. Gotta love that. Like I said, like I said, they were rolling. Oh, nice. Look at that. Are you fucking kidding me? How much is a lemonade? I think it was like a dollar. That's what I'm saying. These kids are killing it. Oh, my God. I've never seen a lemonade stand like that in my life. People were paying in twenties. I Jesus. I think that's just they gave me one.

Starting point is 01:14:26 That's funny as hell. It's impressive. That's good stuff though, man. I had another one that I think was left. I mean, this one might have been out there for a while. But it says, Mr. Kelsey, my name is Vinnie Lynch. I am 10 years old. I am a big fan of yours and your brother, Trapp. My dad showed me some videos where you were wearing a luchador mask. We thought you should have one in the eagle's colors, so we brought you a gift. You were kind enough to take

Starting point is 01:14:52 a picture with me at Yum Yum's before. Thank you for being so nice. I know it must be tough, since so many people ask you for stuff. So I wanted to give you something. Your friend, Vincent Lynch. PS, my mom thinks we are crazy for giving you a mask, but we think it is cool. Nice. Nice. You got another Luchador mask. Well, here we go kids. Ooh. Oh, that thing is gnarly.

Starting point is 01:15:17 This one might not fit. Oh yeah. You know you kind of remind me of a racing dog. I know exactly who you're about to say from Billy Madison. Billy Madison. The teacher. What is his name? The revolting blob.

Starting point is 01:15:34 Dude, so good. That might be my wrestling name if I had one. This one's good. I dig this one. Dude, that thing is sweet. Did you get it? Dude, so good. That might be my wrestling name if I had one. This one's good. I dig this one. Dude, that thing is sweet.

Starting point is 01:15:50 Did you keep the one you actually wore on WrestleMania? We gotta send that back still. But yeah, I still got that one. You gotta send that back? Oh no, I got the WrestleMania one and I got three Luchador masks now. Oh, you're talking about the cheese one. I gotta get that one back too. Yeah, we gotta get that one back. We want to encourage more of this engagement from our fans. We love it when you guys send cool stuff, but please don't send it to

Starting point is 01:16:14 our house. We're going to set up a PO box. We're going to set up some systems. It's too hard. You send it to my house. It's getting sent right back. Yeah. So we're going to find ways that you guys can send things and it will get seen. Please, don't send us anything that you want us to sign, we're not gonna sign it, or anything that you really need sent back, because that's not happening either. But anything that you think is cool, that you want us to have, that we think is cool, that we might throw on the show, like this nutsack bowl, yeah, send it on our way, guys. Yeah, well make sure you guys get the the peel box and I'll tell you what Mail time mail time mail time mail time

Starting point is 01:16:53 All right Maybe that becomes a second. We'll see that's it. We're done. This one's in the books show clothes funny though make sure to subscribe on YouTube to the New Heights channel so you know when all the new episodes come out and we'll be back with a new episode next week. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Once again, New Heights presented by Wavesports and Entertainment and brought to you by Subway. That's right, try all new footlong sidekicks at a Subway today. Oh, I love Subway.

Starting point is 01:17:23 Follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1S and thank you to our production and crew. You guys are the greatest and thank you to the 92 percenters. Hope you guys had a fun Memorial Day weekend. Peace. Balloons! Where are the balloons? There they are. Jason, is it the middle of winter? No, it's spring. Nice. Is it chilly out? It was rainy today.

Starting point is 01:17:54 I wouldn't say chilly. It looks like something, a cardigan that you would wear in the winter. Well, sometimes I like to wear cardigans inside the house because it feels comfy. Like a robe? Kind of, half a robe. I guess that's what a cardigan kind of is. Never thought about that. Not a big robe guy, but I do like a good cardigan. I think I'm going to get into robes. Robes? Yeah. What kind of a robe? A robe sometimes. A robe, when you wear a robe outside, like a coat, kind of looks like a cape, you know? A little bit. Yeah,, when you wear a robe outside, like a coat, kind of looks like a cape, you know? A little bit. Yeah, especially if you don't have a tie up front. What kind of robe are

Starting point is 01:18:30 you going with? Velour? I don't know. Not like a floor-naix. Ooh, you know who's got a good one is Versace's got a few good ones. Versace? They're known for robes? Versace, yeah. Versace. Versace is, is that like Gucci? It's Italian, I believe. Like dresswear? I mean, I've heard of it. I'm not acting like I've never heard of Versace, but I don't think I've...

Starting point is 01:18:52 Yeah, you know, you've seen Versace before. It's like men's warehouse? Yeah, basically.

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