Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Avengers: Age of Ultron (w/ Leah Marilla Thomas)
Episode Date: April 26, 2022Admin reveal!!! Our resident Marvel expert and self-proclaimed nerd-for-hire Leah Marilla Thomas gets in front of the mic to guide us through arguably no one's favorite MCU movie, Avengers: A...ge of Ultron (2015). Next week's movie: Ant-Man (2015) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
This is a HeadGum Original.
I'm gonna show you something beautiful.
Everyone scream it.
For mercy.
You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change.
You're all puppets.
Tangled in strings.
Strings. Strange.
It's the end.
The end of the path I started us on.
Nothing lasts forever.
But now I'm free.
There are no strings on me. Thank you. Hi, everyone.
I'm Lauren Lapkus.
And I'm Nicole Byer. And this is Newcomers.
Yes, yes, yes.
This is the eighth episode of our fifth season.
We are working our way through the Marvel Cinematic Universe
with the help of fellow newcomers, super fans, sometimes people who've contributed.
And this season will be 20 episodes long, so we're going to get to as much as we can.
We can't get to everything, and we are okay with that.
Yes.
Today we're going to be discussing the second Avengers movie, Avengers Age of Ultron.
It came out in 2015.
You can get it on Disney Plus and for a fee on Amazon
Apple TV Plus, Google Play and Vudu.
We are going
to spoil it.
So if you want to watch the movie
first you can do that or you can just listen
and have a nice time. Lauren
what are
your initial thoughts?
I actually
thought this was kind of fun.
I know you didn't.
I thought that there were some moments that I enjoyed.
I actually liked the James Spader AI robot situation.
I actually thought that that was pretty entertaining.
thought that that was pretty entertaining um however and i sort of like the um real life moments that they had like when they went to the guy's house and like that kind of stuff
um but overall i would say it was like an hour too long as you know they all are
i watched it over two nights which was my best choice because i didn't i think when i sometimes when I'm really tired and I put one of these on, it's like so hard to watch it.
So I actually was able to stay awake in a good way.
I paced it out for myself, which was helpful.
But what did you think?
You hated it.
I really didn't like it.
Elizabeth Olsen's accent was so weird and strange.
I have questions about that. So many many questions who was the dialogue coach they
should be you know walked into traffic i really didn't like the action in this one and i also
didn't like the non-action parts yeah so that's the movie that's the whole thing and i think that
um her accent is from a fake country oh okay but then i'm like
so make it something she can do you know like it was like she was uh struggling it was hard and i
wonder and i was like does wanda on wandavision have that accent no right because i haven't seen
i don't think so i haven't seen anything that. So I'm very curious about how that connects. But you know what?
We have the perfect guest today because...
We do.
We are joined by our very own Marvel expert and consultant,
Leah Marilla Thomas.
And don't talk yet, as you know.
Look, she's the first person to not try to talk yet
because she's like, I'm here every week.
I understand how it works.
So Age of Ultron is a slightly controversial part of the MCU.
So we thought it'd be best to have Leah chat it through with us. And Leah is an entertainment
journalist and a writer in addition to the resident Marvel expert, as we said, which has
been very helpful throughout this whole season. You've been chiming in, giving us lots of tidbits
and info to keep us on track. Welcome to the show, Leah. Leah, Leah, Leah. Hello. Thank you for
having me. I mean, I'm always here. Oh, my God. But it's special today.
It's really special.
Tell us, what was your first experience with Marvel?
How did you become a Marvel expert?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So I was not, you know, really a superhero person.
I'd seen, like, some Spider-Man movies, some X-Men movies.
And I did not really like the concept of secret identities um yeah it like it really
bummed me out when the whole conflict in superhero movie is just like oh no they're gonna find out
who i am so when iron man came out and at the end he says you know like fuck it i am iron man
that was interesting and that kind of hooked me on this series. Yeah.
I mean, I personally liked that moment too,
but I also think that's hysterical that that was an improvised moment.
Like they weren't going to have him say that.
And then he's like,
fuck it, I'm Iron Man.
They're like, that's good.
Keep that.
We like that.
So yeah, I've seen them all.
I've seen, I think, yeah,
every Marvel television show.
As part of my job, I've done lots of like Easter egg guides and recaps and explainers.
So I'm I'm in it. Who who's your favorite character from the universe?
Peggy Carter. Who's that? And who is that? Captain America's girlfriend.
that and who is that uh captain america's girlfriend oh that old bitch yes we know her she has um a spinoff television show on abc called agent carter and that is my she does
yes it's my favorite piece of content much content yeah i'm exhausted but wait so is the actress from
the movie on the show oh good for her and she's not old. This is like old timey.
Yeah, it takes place in the 40s.
It's about her like living her
life, being a spy, getting over
Captain America, like
I guess dying because she thinks he's dead.
I'm sorry. She's got like other boyfriends.
I didn't know this was a show
and it's on ABC. Me either. And it's like
I watch things on ABC.
It's as if ABC betrayed you.
I watch things here.
Why didn't they tell me?
What?
Bachelor,
Million Little Things.
I have a lot of...
So, wait,
did she have this show on ABC?
Wait, is ABC part of Disney?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
When did that happen?
Well, they really figured it out,
didn't they? They were like, let's just swoop up everything. Everything? Yes. When did that happen? They really figured it out, didn't they? They were like, let's
just swoop up everything. Everything?
Wow.
Disney is going to just own everything.
Well, buy me.
Daily Bugle time?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Daily Bugle. It's our new segment where we're gonna give a recap
of what's been going on lately in the mcu okay first first topic deadline announced that marvel
studios is developing a project around the marvel hero richer writer aka nova for either film or
television nova a member of Nova Corps?
Everything's a question.
Law enforcement.
Oh, okay.
We're introduced in Guardians of the Galaxy led by Glenn Close.
Okay.
Why do they all have names that are just like Richard?
Steven?
Yes.
Everyone's just very normal.
And there's multiple too
because there's multiple Peters.
There's multiple Richards. There's multiple Richards.
That's so funny.
Is it because Stan Lee was doing this in 1955 and he was like, everyone's name is Dick and Sally?
That's funny.
Dick and Sally.
So here's another bit for y'all. At the red carpet event for Moon Knight in Los Angeles,
Oscar Isaac posed with a child cosplaying as his character,
Mark Spector, a.k.a. Moon Knight.
How kind.
Oh, that's nice.
Very kind.
Honestly, this child looks creepy.
Now, did I see that Ethan Hawke was at this premiere?
Is he in this show, Moon Knight?
He is.
He's the villain.
Okay, I like him.
Ethan Hawke's the villain? okay i like hawks the villain
oh yeah we watched the the trailer and it looked pretty decent right right right i liked how that
one looked actually because it was kind of about like he's like i've got multiple personalities
yeah okay i'm into that and i have seen uh the first four episodes of midnight oh is it good
it's pretty good based on what we have been liking and not liking, do you think we would like it?
There's a little,
I can say all this cause it'll be out.
Yeah.
There's a little bit of romance.
Okay.
It's got Indiana Jones vibes.
Do you guys like Indiana Jones?
Never seen it.
No.
No.
I don't think I do,
but I saw it when I was a kid, but I don't think i do but i saw i saw when i was a kid but i don't know
yeah well i'm also fairly newcomer season six you know there's four of them it's also fairly
like straight forward you know there's only one character that's not a lot of people coming in so
see that i guess he does have multiple personalities or dids so there are other
people coming in but it's all him that i can get behind i can get behind that um okay here's
another little tidbit on instagram live someone asked james mcavoy is that how you say it? McAvoy? Oh, God.
God, McAvoy.
That is, yeah, of course that's how you say it.
If he's in Doctor Strange into the multiverse of madness,
his answer, no.
Why would you think he is?
Why is that interesting?
This is the thing.
This has become the news.
I've been trying so hard to avoid this type of news
because that's all it is.
But all people want to do is ask actors if they're in films
and then catch them in a lie if they're, you know,
like Andrew Garfield went through this with Spider-Man.
Oh, he said he wasn't in it and then he was.
And then he's like fucking, he is Spider-Man.
Interesting.
Okay, well, I guess you can't even say, we'll have to wait and see because that would mean that you are. And then he's like fucking he is Spider-Man. Interesting. Okay.
Well, I guess you can't even say we'll have to wait and see because that would mean that you are.
And then you get in trouble.
But who would he be in Doctor Strange?
The Multiverse of Madness.
He'd be like the younger Professor X.
Like he is in.
Oh, yeah.
First class and stuff.
But isn't that.
Oh, Disney owns Fox now. Boy, oh boy. Oh, my God First class and stuff. But isn't that... Oh, Disney owns Fox now.
Boy, oh boy.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Well, here's another thing.
When asked what he could share about Thor, Love and Thunder,
director Taika Waititi said that it's not finished.
The film will be released in July,
and Waititi joked that he would get it done probably in June.
I love it.
You know, you love someone who's like successful, who's confident.
I love it.
He's like, whatever.
I'll get it done.
Don't worry about me.
He's everyone's favorite.
And I want to know why it's called Love and Thunder.
Now, do you think that he's going to make some thunder in bed with Natalie Portman?
Ooh, maybe, maybe,
maybe he'll put down a different hammer on Natalie,
Natalie Thornton.
Wow.
He's going to lay down the hammer in bed.
I think in this movie, Jane becomes Thor somehow.
I'm not, this is not my area of expertise, that particular comic.
So I think we now have to call her Natalie Thornton.
Okay.
I love it.
It's been decreed.
She becomes him?
Hmm.
I mean.
Kinky?
Sounds a little hot.
Although I got to say Thor's hair in Age of Ultron would oscillate between straight wig and then beach waves.
And I was like, who did the continuity on?
This is nuts.
Yeah.
I want to get into everyone's looks and everyone's vibes.
We're going to go to a quick break.
We're going to come back with Age of Ultron
after this. network, a service that protects your internet connection and online privacy. A VPN creates an
encrypted tunnel for your data, protect your online identity by hiding your IP address,
and allow you to use public Wi-Fi hotspots safely. I'm using a Nord VPN myself. And honestly,
it's very easy to use. You connect with one click to enable auto-connect for zero-click protection.
It has amazing speed.
NordVPN is one of the fastest VPNs out there, and it supports every major platform.
Windows, Android, iOS, Linux, even Android TV.
You can switch your virtual location to access apps and websites in other countries.
Get an exclusive NordVPN deal here at nordvpn.com slash newcomers.
N-O-R-D-V-P-N dot com slash newcomers. It's risk-free with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee.
Link is in the episode description.
And we're back. Okay. Age of Ultron was written by Joss Whedon, directed by Joss Whedon,
Age of Ultron was written by Joss Whedon, directed by Joss Whedon, released on Joss Whedon.
I honestly, he did the first Avengers and I really didn't like it.
I think he must be stopped.
Yeah, I think people were trying to stop him recently.
I don't know what happened with that. He was pretty much stopped, but he was not stopped at this point.
Yeah, so this came out May 1st, 2015.
Let's jump into our plot here.
Okay, so in light of the events of The Winter Soldier,
the Avengers reassemble to track down
and eliminate Hydra again.
More of this fucking Hydra's remaining members.
Their latest mission brings them to a location
of Loki's Scepter,
a fictional Eastern European country called Slokvenia.
There you go.
Sokovia.
What is it?
Sokovia.
Sokovia.
Do you have like heartburn every time I pronounce something?
No, but sometimes I can sort of like anticipate
which paragraphs you're going to read and I go, oh no.
I like this.
I like when you get to a hard word. It's Oh no, I like this. I like when I,
when you get to a hard word,
it's so hard.
Oh,
I like what you make up.
It's always more fun than the real word.
Lauren.
Thank you so much.
Well,
this fucking scepter that seems to be so important in every movie is in the possession of Barton Wolfgang von Strucker
played by Thomas
Creature Man,
one of the last remaining heads of Hydra,
who's been using the scepter
to build weapons
and experiment on the people.
Okay, so,
during the battle,
without Strucker's approval,
two of his agents join the fray,
Pietro and Wanda Maximoff's
Kukovian twins,
who gained, I'm doing the accent perfectly. Who gain supernatural
powers via Strucker's experiment.
Pietro can move at super
human speeds, while Wanda
possesses a powerful plethora of psionic
powers. When Tony Stark
finds the scepter, Wanda uses her powers
on him. In a vision, Tony
sees his teammates dead or dying while the
Chitauri launch an even larger invasion on Earth. So a vision, Tony sees his teammates dead or dying while the Chitauri launch an even
larger invasion on Earth. So this is when everyone started having visions.
Yeah. And I was like, OK. And then there is one part where she is introduced and then moves.
They just like rewind her back through a door. And I don't think I've laughed harder.
It was the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my whole entire life. Also, I didn't really. I was
like, okay,
so she's like an enchantress or whatever.
She can like bewitch you into dreams.
But then I was like, why do I need to see
the Avengers bewitched?
Why can't we just see it later?
I guess, I don't know.
I just didn't need to see all of them bewitched.
It was dumb to me.
I agree because I feel like not all of them paid off.
Like some of them, we saw what they saw and we saw them deal with that. And they had to go like, like, I feel like not all of them paid off. No. Like, some of them, we saw what they saw, and we saw them deal with that, and they had to go, like, I feel like Thor, it was, like, a really big deal to him.
But, like, other people, it wasn't that big of a deal.
They were like, I see myself doing something fun later.
And then everyone else was like, horrible.
Horrible stuff's going to happen.
I don't know.
It was kind of silly.
And I have to say, like, before we started recording, I was just i was just we were talking about like how we don't love when all the
all these avengers get together and like i just feel like sometimes they get a little corny when
they're all together yes yes because there was that whole runner of like don't say bad words
and i was like what the fuck i was just about to bring that up what is that was that oh go ahead please that language
moment sort of followed around both steve rogers and chris evans for the longest time and fans
loved like anytime chris evans says a bad word they're like oh no it's awful that's so annoying
even this movie like eventually proves that that's not, like, who he is.
That's really funny.
I feel like, like, wait, was it this movie or another one where they were all trying to pick up the hammer?
It was this one.
That was this one, yeah.
They all start playing together.
But I was like, okay, like, that was like an improv scene.
Like, it was like a group game.
They're like, how would your character try to pick up the hammer?
It's like, this one's like, no, no, I got this.
You know, it's like, okay, you guys, like this is just a little bit silly.
That whole sequence was improv.
There is a point where they had, what is his name?
Who's Iron Man's friend?
Rhodey.
Yeah.
So Rhodey was like, and then that's when i said boom and everyone's
like i was like totally so this wasn't scripted and you could tell by his face don cheetah was
like all right i guess if you want me to fucking keep making up shit here's this totally it was
it was totally what was happening it was so weird and then I guess that whole point
of that scene
was just so that
later when the
robot picks it up
and it's really easy
it's like okay
so he's really strong
and you guys aren't
like I was like
but yeah I know
like I don't know
there was just something
about that that was very
well he's worthy
we'll get to that later
worthy
oh worthy
I missed that
I didn't get that
okay we have to get back
okay so
the Avengers arrest Strucker and return to Stark Tower.
Now the Avengers Tower, which is like, what?
It's like their house.
Yeah, like what's going on?
In Manhattan with the Scepter, Stark and Bruce Banner begin studying the weapon.
They discover that the gem in the Scepter could be used to develop artificial intelligence.
The two scientists extract the gem
for use in Stark's secret peacekeeping program
called Ultron.
Also on board is Dr. Helen Cho.
Claudia Kim, who is a geneticist?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so, Leah, they live in Avengers Tower tower that's just yes their house yeah that's like
their hangout do they live there all the time well according to fan fiction yes
oh for sure if i was gonna write fan fiction there's so much avengers tower fan fiction it's
its own genre because it's like a condo building where they're like we have a pool up at the top
where anything can happen.
And then there's the gym.
You'll always run into
one of the other Avengers in there
because they're always working out.
And the doorman's got everyone's packages,
but he mixes them up sometimes.
And somebody got Bruce Banner's dildo.
And, you know, it's just a disaster.
It should be like,
it should be like the circle.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
I love the circle.
Wouldn't that be great?
Do you see how I light up? I light up at the worst shows ever i'm like you really did light up i know circle
it's so bad that's why no one who cares about this can really get upset if we don't like it
because we have crazy taste yes we do very bad like i loveiancé. I think it is poetic.
Okay, yeah. So they do live in Avengers Tower, but they
move to another house at the
end of the movie, right? Oh, okay.
Yes, well. But they were there.
Okay, so the Avengers throw a party
with their various sidekicks. At the
party, the Avengers mingle and cover a wide
range of topics. Jane and Thor's relationship
status, Steve and Sam's search for Bucky Barnes, as well as Bruce and Natasha's I just was like, not here for this scene.
Also, there was a bunch of old people there,
and I was like, are there old people
so we can get Stan Lee in here?
He doesn't have to always be with old people.
He could just be a person.
Yeah.
I also think, like, there's nothing scarier.
I mean, and we're improvisers, but I feel like there's nothing scarier than this movie
with a blank page where they go, in this part, you're just going to make some stuff.
This is a millions of millions of millions of dollar movie.
And we just want you to make it up as you go.
Just go.
Just see what you guys play with as you go just go just see just see what you
guys play with when you go pull the hammer and the hammer will be made of styrofoam so just don't
really let it be yeah don't don't touch it um and then somebody almost moves it and thor's like oh
no and then he's like ha ha ha caption america i was like oh my god and it is crazy that none of
them can't even move it an inch
well because it's not about it's not about strength it's about being like pure of heart
or something okay well i remember in thor how he had to just like prove that he was
oh yeah person and then he could wield it okay i missed i missed that as part of what matters
about that hammer so that's going to be a key detail later i think maybe we'll find out
we'll find out okay i mean i watched the film yeah i watched it too and that's why i was just like
okay maybe i missed something well like they definitely made a big deal of it when
ultron or whatever was throwing it to him at that like even that part where he's like
tossing it to him yeah yeah yeah or not ultron jarvis or whatever the red man yeah who
who also looked like he was from the bodies exhibit yeah i was not here for that i was like
that's their main source of inspiration for like half the characters the bodies exhibit
uh okay so what was his name vision vision oh his name is Vision? Wanda Vision. Oh, shit. So, spoiler alert, that's
Wanda's husband.
Oh. Oh. Well, that is a
spoiler. But he was just, like, created.
He's a baby. She's way older.
Seems nasty.
I mean, he's also
annoying. He's like,
Is death what you're afraid of?
No, what we're afraid of is the sky.
Birds, trees, life. life i hated him he was more
annoying i liked the bad guy i like the bad guy too ultron james spader he gets suddenly activated
this was fun this part was fun i thought this was exciting i did like this um so he quickly
absorbs all the information in the world and determines that the only way to save Earth is to eradicate humanity
which is like a lot of bad guys
things where I'm just like this is
pretty dramatic
everybody gotta go
it's a huge thing that you want to happen
you know and then Jarvis
attempts to stop Ultron but the more
powerful AI appears to destroy him
and then takes control of one of
Tony's Iron Legion robots.
Ultron attacks the Avengers, knock-kneed,
and kind of, like, drunkenly stumbling around,
but then he, like, flees with Tony's Iron Legion.
Yeah, this part I thought was very exciting.
Like, they were having their party, and then the...
I guess it was supposed to be Iron Man's costume or something and it and it like
goes like hey i'm sentient now and then they're all like oh shit and then it's like way better
than all of them and i thought that was fun i thought it was a little fun i like i didn't like
how like oh he looked like a rag doll he was like, I've just cobbled myself together.
I'm just like really discovering how bad and nasty I am.
It does seem fairly realistic, though,
that if artificial intelligence
absorbed all of the Internet
in a minute,
they would decide
to just kill everybody, though.
I mean, that seems like
what I want to do.
I don't like the Internet too much. You go on Twitter, you're like, I'm going to end it everybody, though. I mean, that seems like what I want to do. I don't want to look at the internet too much.
You go on Twitter, you're like, I'm going to end it.
I'm like, yeah, we should all stop this now.
Yeah, I guess.
I guess if I was artificial intelligence,
I'd be like, everyone here is pretty stupid.
So, like, they got to go.
Don't you feel like, like, I don't know.
I just pictured the internet actually being gone and, like like the level of peace I would feel at home.
Mm hmm.
But then I'd be like, what's everyone doing?
I know, but you just wouldn't know.
And then you'd have to call someone and be like, do you want to hang out?
And then like you would have less FOMO because you'd like hear you'd maybe hear about something that happened, but you maybe wouldn't.
Oh, my God.
Are we Ultron?
Are we trying to get rid of the world?
Yeah.
All right. So here's my paragraph. Ultron recruits the Maximoff twins in Sokovia who
reveal that they have a vendetta against Tony Stark because a Stark Industries bomb killed
their parents and that Wanda let Stark take Loki's
scepter with the hope that it would make him self-destruct. After Ultron kills Strucker in
prison to lure the Avengers out, he and the twins travel to South Africa to acquire vibranium from
arms dealer Ulysses Klaue, played by Andy Serkis, who blows me away. Yeah, he's great. he's a great actor uh he's fun and then i was like oh so and then they mentioned
something about vibranium like being used to make the shield or whatever and he was like
you made a dumb frisbee or something i i don't know i just just don't know what was happening. We're getting into the answers
that you have been demanding for weeks.
Okay.
Yeah, but like, I didn't really get an answer
other than like, why did
Novacor?
No, who made this thing?
Howard Stark.
Howard Stark made the shield?
Iron Man's dad, yeah.
And I
don't think they ever fully say
whether or not he bought it or bought it.
You know?
Okay, yes.
I think he must have stolen it.
So about Tony Stark.
Mm-hmm.
He's bad.
Like, I think Robert Downey Jr. is so likable
that I have this feeling,
and he's, and now Iron Man is a hero.
He's a superhero.
But he has done a, he's got a very bad history.
Like, I feel like a lot of them
don't have such a bad history.
He literally caused destruction
because he made bombs.
Like, he, I mean, I guess he,
in his first movie, he was like, I'm not going do that anymore but like it's fucked up it's fucked up yeah and he's still
like destruct he's like but then the part where he's like hey how fast can we buy this building
and then he like breaks it all down like the whole building I'm like well he has good intentions I
guess like he's like I'll buy it and then it's my problem or something. But I was like, I don't know. He's he's a he's like a kind of like bad person.
It seems like even the idea to like put a what did he call the ultra and like put a shield of armor around the world?
That's that's still militarizing the planet.
It's like it's still bad.
Yeah, I don't think I think ultimately like I love the actor, but the character, I have problems with some of his core beliefs.
Same.
And then also, yeah, he, his dad and him sold, you know, weapons of mass destruction to people.
Yeah, bad, bad, bad, bad.
And, of course, we have the twins' parents killed.
These twins are in love with each other, correct?
They do love a handhold.
Did they kiss at one point?
He tenderly touched her face.
I submitted it to Siblings or Dating, which is my favorite Instagram account.
Twins who are dating.
Wait, no, what is it? Siblings who are dating. No what is it siblings or dating no siblings or dating and then the
person who makes it will post a picture of a couple and then put a poll like are these two
people siblings or are they dating and though because the poses people are in or and they
either look a lot alike or they're posing really weirdly and then you find out they're siblings
it's like it's just or you find out they're dating but they're like twins it's just the best account
that's very funny it's very fun and some find out they're dating, but they're like twins. It's just the best account.
That's very funny.
It's very funny.
And some of them are like disturbing.
Like, you'll just be like, these people are siblings, yet they're like, like kissing each other.
It's just like sick.
Elizabeth Olsen and Aaron Taylor Johnson did play a married couple in another movie.
So they have tension.
They have chemistry that already exists wow interesting
what movie was that yeah Godzilla which I think came out the same year as this okay what that's
crazy to have them cast in two things that huge playing no it was a year before but still I think
that's insane I think it's pretty funny it's like we were kissing now we kiss in a different way
yeah and I guess they'd already been cast
because they were in that post-credits scene.
Right, right, right.
After Winter Soldier.
When she was like...
Okay, so more plot summary.
After explaining that Klaue stole vibranium from Wakanda,
and both Steve and Tony were led to believe that Howard Stark got the last of it,
the Avengers head to Johannesburg to stop him.
Wanda uses her powers to wage psychological warfare.
Natasha's taken back to the Red Room in Russia.
She's Russian?
Where she was trained by an assassin, Madam M, Julie Delpy, who was on, I think, Angel and Buffy.
And she's from Before Sunrise with Ethan Hawke, which I love those movies.
Have you seen those?
I do like her.
I have not seen those.
Oh, I love those movies.
They're really romantic and good.
Ooh, that's like right up my alley.
You should watch.
There's three of them, and they take place 10 years apart.
Ooh.
And with the same actors.
It's called Before Sunrise.
I think the first one is Before Sunrise, then it's Before Sunset, and then it's Before Midnight.
And so the characters reconnect 10 years later in real time.
Like they made another one, and then they have the characters come back.
It's really fun.
Ooh.
And now also, didn't Natasha have an accent in like the first movie that we saw her in?
Did she?
Natalie?
I mean, not Natalie, whatever her name is.
Scarlett?
She might have, but definitely does not have an accent in this one.
No, ma'am.
No, no, no, no.
She doesn't try to have an accent, no.
Also, again, her wig-etition said, I will do you no favors.
That wig is bad.
I'm blown away.
I'm just like, are we not at the point, like, just in past the year 2000, where, like, every wig should be great?
Like, what are we doing?
Like, it's like, you're in Marvel.
It's like, it's going to be a great wig.
Spend some money.
I don't know.
I know that I've heard of, like, certain actors that people I know who have worked with were like, Oh yeah, she wears a wig in every movie and it's a,
you know,
$10,000 wig or whatever.
And it's like,
she just never wants her own hair to be done.
And they,
it's just part of the deal.
And it's like,
it seems like Scarlett Johansson would be in a position where she can say,
I want a really amazing wig.
I don't know.
One would think.
Every movie gives her a different hairstyle and a different love interest.
It's. Yeah. because she was like i thought she had a necklace with like an arrow for hawkeye in some movie
but now she's trying to fuck a fucking green dude the dynamic between them in their romance where
she's like i love you or like i'm really into you or i adore you but i want the big guy or something
and she's like pushed him over the cliff and like he came back as the hulk and i was like I love you. Or like, I'm really into you or I adore you, but I want the big guy or something.
And she pushed him over the cliff
and like he came back
as the Hulk
and I was like,
yuck.
Yeah.
A lot of what she did
was nasty.
She was like,
let me fuck you
in the shower.
You shouldn't have
showered alone.
And I'm like,
girl.
I know.
Have some respect.
And then does he turn
into the Hulk
when he's horny?
I think so.
We famously didn't watch
The Incredible Hulk, but I'm
pretty sure that that's
like a thing. Because they were kissing.
You get too excited.
And you just can't fuck at all.
Yeah. I don't know what she
called it because they were kissing and she was like,
don't. I don't think she said don't get
big because that's stupid. But I think she said like
probably. There's so many weird jokes in this movie. I wouldn't be surprised. I think she was like, don't think she said don't get big because that's stupid. But I think she said like probably. There's so many weird jokes in this movie.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I think she was like, don't change.
And he's like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
It's like, okay.
So that means he's like baseball, baseball, old ladies.
Old ladies fucking grocery shopping.
So Steve imagines that he's returned to the 1940s
with the war over and Peggy still waiting to dance.
Thor sees a frightening Asgardian party where Hamildoldl tells him that everyone's dead.
Oh.
And when Wanda then hypnotizes Banner, turning him into the Hulk and sending him to attack Johannesburg.
Is it Johannesburg?
Is it?
I thought it was Johannesburg.
Is it?
I think both.
Did I say it wrong?
Johannesburg. No, you might. I think you said it right. Or should I thought it was Johannesburg. Is it? Johannesburg. Did I say it wrong? Johannesburg.
No, you might.
I think you said it right.
Or should I say it?
Johannesburg.
And then people can decide what they heard.
Iron Man decides to call in a special suit named Veronica, which subdues and defeats Hulk.
But the destruction they cause starts a public backlash against the Avengers, who are forced to go into hiding.
Triggered by something he saw in Wanda's vision, Thor does not join them.
So they go to this farm,
which I guess we'll get into in a second.
But now, is this the part where Iron Man
was riding the Hulk around the buildings?
I was like, what?
Yeah, in like a big suit.
Like, I was like, are you on a team together?
Like, what's going on?
Like, does Hulk just lose track of, like, who's on his side?
Maybe.
Yeah, because he doesn't have the same,
he doesn't have Bruce Banner's brain.
He's like his own.
Oh.
The way that Natasha is attracted to him,
and then he also turns into this,
is like something that's so weird.
What did you guys think of the lullaby
that she does to like get him to turn down or like oh my god wait what was it it was um
hey big guy sun's getting real low
she just like kept calling him big guy. And it was like so uncomfortable.
I agree.
I thought that was super fucking weird.
It's like it's like a woman.
Like it's like a metaphor for like nurturing your husband's abusive side.
She's like, I need the big guy.
Yeah.
It's OK, big guy.
And then he's back to his normal self.
And he's he's so boring as himself.
Like Mark Ruffalo is so charming.
His character just
doesn't do it like it's just there's nothing for him on the page i think the only part i really
like of his in this film is towards the beginning where he's like listening to classical music on
big headphones to chill the fuck out yeah that's relatable to me the part where in the beginning
i think it was where he like turned back from the Hulk to himself.
I didn't know what was going on at all for some reason,
even though I've seen him do that.
I was like, ew, what is he doing?
And then he like plopped down and he was himself.
And I was like, this is sick.
Well, it was just like a weird transformation.
He's like grabbing on tree branches and his veins are green.
Yeah.
It wasn't for me.
I agree. Yeah. It wasn't for me. I agree.
Okay, the team takes refuge at Clint Barton's farm.
I was like, what the fuck?
Where they meet his pregnant wife, Laura,
and his children, Cooper and Leah.
Or Lila.
No, I wish.
Just kidding.
Sorry, Lila.
Yeah, imagine it was you.
You're just like in the movie and you're like,
that's my dad, Clint Barton.
I thought that Clint and Natasha were fucking.
So like color me confused that he's got this whole
forest house with these kids.
Me too.
Right?
I think Laura, who was, what's her name from Dead Teen?
Linda.
Carter.
Linda Carlini. Linda Carlini.
I felt like she, when she was like, what's going on with Bruce and Natasha?
And then Clint was like, what do you mean?
Because I thought he was like, I'm into her.
Was that a thing?
Because he didn't know that they were in a couple.
I don't know.
Okay, well, there was something weird about that.
To me, the Bruce and Natasha relationship came out of nowhere.
So I'm on Clint's side.
I don't know what Linda Carlini is talking about where she's like, everyone can see it.
I know.
That wasn't true.
It's like I'm picking up on a lot of context clues through paying close attention.
And I've understood now that they're together.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Just weird.
So Steve and Tony argue while Natasha and Bruce discuss running away together.
Bruce tells Natasha he can't give her the life that he assumes that she wants, kids,
because he's a monster.
And Natasha responds by revealing that the Red Room sterilized her to make her a more
efficient killer
because I guess a uterus would hinder you from murder.
And that she's a monster too.
Boy, oh boy.
I screamed.
I thought it was extremely fucked up.
And I thought it was very wrong
to even put the word monster in that sentence.
I thought that was so fucked up.
Because it's like, you were a victim
and you were abused by these people. i i just i can't i thought that was so crazy and i also thought
it was weird that he assumed the life she wants was like kids and stuff because i was like do you
see what she does all day it's like she's not getting the vibe of trying to settle down
yeah she's literally out here in these streets jumping from dude to dude trying to murder.
Yeah.
Cutting her hair, straightening her hair, curling her hair.
She has no time.
Changing from ugly wig to ugly wig saying put more bronzer in where it doesn't fucking belong.
She's extremely occupied.
Just the dialogue that they gave the Hulk or whatever his name is,
Bruce,
where he's just like,
I don't know the things you want are not the things I give.
Everybody knows.
I don't know.
And I was like,
what?
Yeah.
This is like trying to be like romantic, I guess,
but it just was weird.
This whole vibe of this movie was weird.
I agree.
I thought this was like such a dark, deep moment to have.
Like, with the conversation
they're actually having
that she was sterilized as a child.
I was like,
this is a very heavy abuse topic
and it's thrown into the middle
of this silly movie.
Like, it was just, like,
so unnecessary.
And I assume that's from
the comics or something.
Like, that must be real, right? Like, why would they put that? From the comics or something like what it must be real right like
from the comics I believe
I believe it is
um
100% they do
so uh just
last year you know
almost a decade after it should have happened Black Widow
got her solo movie
and they
touched on this very briefly um using a character played by Florence
Pugh who just like very succinctly did a little uh well that's what I'm thinking of
backtracking I guess like she made it she made it into a joke that was more of like
a feminist joke about it so So I appreciate it a lot.
Okay. Well, they're trying to fix it.
Trying to fix it. Yeah.
And Florence Pugh has the right
sort of like energy for that.
I'm not familiar with her
work. However, I did look up
literally an audio button on how to pronounce her name
the other night because I was like, it can't be Pugh.
It is close. I was like, it can't be poo it is close i was like it can't be though
right and then i passed the button it was like peel and i was like good good we're good we're
good here i'll i'll explain the the joke in black widow um someone makes a joke about her being
angry because she's on her period and she says i don't have one i was sterilized fuck you um
which is a nice way to reclaim that's what i was thinking of
yeah that sort of narrative but i would like it if she because she's black widow and she's a spider
and spiders have eight legs i would like it if she had eight periods yeah fuck you i'm on all eight Oh, boy.
There's still so much more of this summary.
Oh, of course there is.
So much fucking happens in this movie that I just did not care about.
Well, let's see if you like this part.
So Nick Fury, still presumed dead, arrives at the farm.
Banner deduces that Ultron is planning to create a body made of synthetic tissue
using the regeneration cradle device
developed by Dr. Helen Cho.
Meanwhile,
Thor travels with Dr. Selvig
to the mystical Water of Sight
to get answers.
He needs to learn about
the existence of the
six Infinity Stones.
Yeah,
that was like a really big deal.
Like,
he got in the fucking,
and is that,
are we going to talk about it later
or is it right now?
I think that's the scene.
He got into the,
into the like hot spring.
And it was like where he started like tweaking out.
And he was like, his eyes were rolling back.
And he was like having all sorts of visions.
And then the doctor was like, Thor!
Like he was like trying to interrupt it.
And I was like, you got to let him, you put him in here.
Thinking this is what's going to happen.
And then he seemed to want to stop it.
I was like, you got to let all the visions happen buddy you're the doctor here yeah i just i don't know and then
these infinity stones so there's six of them so we've only seen this this is the third one
well yeah we've seen the mcu's seen four we've seen three i didn't realize we skipped um thor the dark world which introduces
one as well oh i didn't know we were collecting the stones i didn't notice that oh are we ever
we're collecting them i think to get to um that fucking the dude with the chin he gets them for
a glennos yep thanos's glove yeah has all the Infinity Stones, I think, right? Whenever I know something, I'm so proud.
I'm like, yep, that was Thanos.
I did it.
I know about it.
Love it.
Okay, so indeed Ultron, Pietro,
and Wanda go to Dr. Cho's laboratory in Seoul, South Korea,
where Ultron kidnaps and brainwashes the doctor
as Ultron transfers his consciousness
into the synthetic body and Cho implants the gem from Loki's scepter into its forehead.
Wanda looks into Ultron's mind and discovers his plan to destroy humanity. Shocked,
the twins say, we gotta get out of here! They leave. And while Tony tries to stop Ultron from
hacking nuclear codes in Oslo, Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye arrive in Seoul and battle Ultron. Ultron kidnaps Natasha and derails a train. The twins switch sides and join Captain America's rescue mission on the train while Hawkeye retrieves the regeneration cradle and takes it back to Avengers Tower. I just feel like these twins really just jumped ship quick.
There was no thought.
And then, wait, is this where fucking Hawkeye's like,
hey, buddy, when you step out there, you're an Avenger.
But if you don't step out there, I got to protect you.
Oh, shit.
I hated that.
I really, I hated so much of this movie.
It's a lot like the Fast and the Furious
where you will be a villain one minute
and then just welcomed into the club.
Yeah, but it makes sense when it happens on Fast and the Furious.
Of course.
Thank you.
Well, there's one other.
I'm kidding, Leah.
There's one character from Guardians
who will become a hero later on.
And that's what i probably should
have used that is that the blue lady yeah oh she becomes good yep okay who's blue uh the one who's
just like oh yeah dad yeah she had like a weird voice yeah thanks dad she didn't she also like
gets up and like
walks really sexy
like I
I know she had
like a good butt
I was like
I don't know about
this like avatar
character having
like a great
American
not American
a great human body
it just feels like
it just feels
it just feels
that's just for us
you know
that's not really like
how the character
needs to be
that's just for us I like that i said i should a great american body though
that's captain america i don't even know what i mean american body
oh did you like when they were chopping wood
at one point captain america just rips the wood.
And I was like, well, if you could have been ripping wood the whole time, why are we chopping it?
Yeah, he's just doing it for appearances.
And then fucking Thor whizzed away for a long time.
It was like they couldn't get him to work more days than they promised him.
He didn't want to stay at all. He had to take a bath. He did. He had to take a long time. It was like they couldn't get him to work more days than they promised him. He didn't want to stay at all.
He had to take a bath.
He did.
He had to take a long bath.
I see.
I see.
Okay, so at Avengers Tower,
Stark and Banner
upload Jarvis
into the synthetic body.
Steve and Pietro
don't want him
to go through with it.
A skirmish erupts
and ends when Thor arrives
and brings the android
to life with lightning.
Thankfully,
the android is friendly
and played in the flesh by Paul Bettany.
He's so friendly, in fact,
that he's worthy of wielding Thor's hammer.
Okay, see, I didn't get that.
That's what that meant.
I thought it meant he was super strong.
That's so funny that you just have to be friendly
to handle this hammer.
It's a good test.
So it's like the sword and the stone,
like where only a certain person can pull it out um oh wait so wait a minute so this man this this
body's exhibit man just has one of the infinity stones just straight up in his head yeah forever
he's an infinity he is the stone that's going to fit on a glove. Thor explains that the gem in the android's head is the mind stone.
The twins in the android who will later name himself Vision.
He named himself Vision.
He's really high on himself.
To name yourself Vision.
I am Vision.
I am Vision.
Wow.
Okay.
What are you at?
Cafe Gratitude?
Uh-huh.
A very niche joke for people in Southern California.
I mean, if anyone wants to know, if you go to Cafe Gratitude, you have to order off them.
Each thing is called I am something.
And it's like, I am grateful.
I am light.
And then you have to say that to order your meal.
It's really embarrassing.
So they ally themselves with the, ally themselves?
so they ally themselves with the,
ally themselves?
Ally themselves with the Avengers,
who return to Slokadabia on a tip from Nat
to end Ultron's threat once and for all.
Arriving in Sokovia,
the Avengers find that Ultron
has used various pieces of technology
to build a machine
that lifts the Sokovian capital into the sky.
This one's scary.
It's intended to crash it into the Earth
to replicate a meteor strike
causing a mass extinction event.
While Bruce rescues Natasha,
the Avengers evacuate civilians
and fight Ultron's army of robots
as the city begins to ascend.
Black Widow kisses Bruce Banner,
pushes him off the ledge,
being like,
forcing him to transform into the Hulk.
Meanwhile, Hawkeye gives miranda no miranda
wanda wanda maximoff the encouragement she needs to be a superhero i hated this part
when you step out there you'll be an avenger but if you stay here i have to like take care of you
and stuff and like i got a lot to do i got arrows to do um fury and the remnants of
shield joined joined by war who's war machine roadie his name is war machine yeah that's the
name he gave himself that's his hero name these people vision war machine this is embarrassing
and i reinstated maria hill who's Maria Hill? Kobe Smulders.
She was uninstated?
Well, yeah, we watched this.
She went to work at Stark Industries at the end of Winter Soldier
because S.H.I.E.L.D. had Hydra agents, so they all got new jobs.
Oh, I see.
Well, they arrive in a helicarrier to assist in evacuating the last few civilians.
This is one of the few movies where like they save people instead of just
murdering everybody.
Yeah.
It's nice.
Kinda.
Yeah.
They didn't save everyone.
Like there was that one part where that woman was in her car and it was
flying through the sky going downward.
And then,
um,
what Thor like flung her up and then captain America,
like grabbed her and pushed her over.
And I was like,
there were literally other cars falling next to her.
Like I was like,
you gotta,
the hottest lady.
You got to save the hottest.
It was a really scary way to be saved, but it was great.
And I was so happy for her.
There was a group of people in South Africa who got saved out of an elevator.
And there was this one extra lady who made me laugh so hard.
You got to watch the extras.
They're really funny because they're all in different movies.
Yeah, I need to be paying more attention.
It's great.
So the Avengers wipe out most of Ultron's drones
and severely damage Ultron's primary body.
In retaliation, Ultron hijacks the Avengers' Quinjet
and kills Pietro.
Hulk leaps into the jet and tosses Ultron out of the rear hatch.
Ultron crash lands in an abandoned tram where Wanda finds and destroys him by ripping his heart out.
Do you know what it feels like to die? What it feels like to die? Something I saw.
It's like this monologue and this accent were wild. As I was watching, I was like, I cannot believe I have to.
I can't believe people willingly went to a theater to watch this.
Okay, once the evacuation is complete, Thor and Iron Man combine forces to shatter the city into rubble,
which falls safely, how convenient, into a nearby lake.
Hulk flees in the Quinjet, which was funny because she was like,
hey, big guy, you you gotta turn off invisibility mode
and he was like won't do it I fucking
hate you
I know it was horrible
I hate her talking to him like that
I don't like it either it's like this weird
baby talk and calling him big guy
it's weird
so Ultron's consciousness attempts to flee
in the last remaining drone
but Vision confronts him.
The two have a brief philosophical exchange before Vision effectively kills him.
The Avengers established a new HQ and training facility in upstate New York.
Believing the Mind Stone is safe with Vision, Thor returns to Asgard to learn more about the Infinity Stones.
Captain America and Black Widow welcome new members to the Avengers, consisting of Wanda Maximoff, Sam Wilson, James Rhodes, and Vision.
Now the Avengers are getting pretty big.
Too big.
In a mid-credits tease, Thanos retrieves a golden glove called the Infinity Gauntlet saying, fine, I'll do it myself.
Oh my God, we did it.
Who's Sam Wilson, James Rhodes?
James Rhodes is...
Rhodes is Rhodey.
Oh God.
Sam Wilson is Anthony Mackie.
Oh, yes.
Oh, I thought he was already part of the Avengers.
Oh, yeah.
Me too.
I guess it was like...
It wasn't formally invited until today.
How wild.
I'm so happy for him.
Me too.
So, that was intense.
Now, in our awards section,
Age of Ultron wasn't nominated for any major awards,
but it did win a Saturn Award for Best Film Costume Design
and a People's Choice Award for Favorite Action Movie Character for Chris Hemsworth.
That's funny because he's barely in the movie.
Yeah, I know he really isn't.
He spins around and leaves.
It's true.
So reception, the film had a huge box office success,
raking in worldwide a total of 1.4
billion dollars oh my god the fifth highest grossing movie of all time it also set a worldwide
imax opening weekend with 25.2 million previously held by the dark knight rises
it's crazy how the pandemic has changed what a box office means because
that's so crazy.
It's so much money.
Oh my God.
It holds a 76% rating on rotten tomatoes down quite a bit from the 91% of
the first Avengers movie holds audience has however,
given an a on the cinema score poll.
I think people,
I think 76 is pretty solid in the way people rate things.
I think so.
Richard Rupert wrote in the Chicago Sun-Times,
Someday an Avengers film might collapse under the weight of its own awesomeness.
I mean, how many times can they save the world?
But this is not the day.
Wow.
He's a big fan.
Richard loved it.
Let's go to a quick break, and we'll be back with more age of Ultron after
this.
And we're back with some trivia.
Scarjo was pregnant during filming,
and apparently her many stunt doubles confused the other actors.
Chris Evans said it got to the point where he would start a conversation
with one of the stunt doubles.
Oh, no.
Only to...
No.
Only to realize...
Midway through that he wasn't talking to Jo Hanson!
I am praying that that was like a joke
that he said in an interview
and then someone like just wrote it out
like it was a fact.
Like he, like,
because it sounds like you could say like,
they looked so much like her.
I was, I started talking to one
and I didn't realize it wasn't her
until I told her my whole life story,
you know, or whatever.
But I'm just hoping that's the case
because that's wild.
And that whoever that was
was probably really happy
that they were,
that he was talking to them
and then like halfway through he's like so Scarlett
and then they're like I'm Brenda
I'm Brenda
because they've known each other for a long time
Chris Evans and Scarlett Johansson
they've like done lots of movies together
it also means that he like doesn't give a
shit about her he's just like
whatever she had a body to talk
to oh you're not the body I'm used to this was not pregnant He doesn't give a shit about her. He's just like, whatever, she had a body to talk to.
Oh, you're not the body I'm used to.
This was not pregnant.
I really wonder how they worked around her pregnancy,
because that seems really challenging with the body suits and all the things that she was wearing.
Like, how did they do that?
That's probably why she ended up kidnapped
halfway through the movie.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, to play Ultron actor James Spader
had to wear an antenna-like contraption
made out of a thick piece of wire
with two red balls that represented the placement of his eyes
attached to the top that went up his entire back
and three feet above his head.
Elizabeth Olsen said this was distracting.
Spader was always giving such an intense performance
that she would look him in the eyes out of instinct.
Whenever this happened, Aaron Taylor Johnson would yell,
Red balls! Look at his balls, Lizzie, to get her to look in the right place.
Wow, this movie seems like a free-for-all.
The working title for this film was After Party.
I'm obsessed with these titles that they'll never use.
Like, there's no way it's going to be called that.
In the first trailer, ultron recites no
strings on me a pinocchio song from 1940 oh well disney film about an inanimate being who gains
sentience ultron serves as a dark parallel of pinocchio and the song is briefly in the film
as well yes when i watched this i was like yes ultron is pinocchio. Yeah, I was like, I was like,
yep, that's who that is.
And then I was like,
I was like,
this reminds me of that.
And then, yeah,
that's like what I kept saying.
Yeah.
Okay, so this segment,
is Chris in this?
So it's a yes or no conversation.
If a Chris was in this,
Chris's were in this.
A Hemsworth?
Yes.
An Evans?
We had multiple Chris's,
maybe too many.
I think that,
should there have been another Chris?
You know,
I'm looking for more female Chris names.
Who in the world are we forgetting
when we think of this segment
that should be in this?
Kristen Stewart.
You know,
would she ever be Marvel?
I feel like she could be like a superhero.
Kristen Stewart,
I think she would do it.
She should do a big franchise.
Twilight.
Yeah.
Have you seen Spencer?
No, I hear it's very good.
I want to watch that.
I got to watch it.
It's really good.
Maybe I'll watch that train.
It's scary?
Yeah, it's a little bit of like a psychological thriller.
Oh.
Not expecting that.
Me either.
I'm into it.
Nor was I.
And I feel like this is a good parents movie i have
my parents here and i think i'll throw that on i'll throw that on and see if we all like that
because famously i did meet princess diana uh when i was 10 years old i did
you did yeah so i'll be able to judge this performance um no this is not authentic to
the princess die that i know. I met her because she
came to my hometown of Evanston, Illinois. She was visiting the president of Northwestern
University and she went to like a couple like galas and things in town. And she there was a
moment where we knew she was where she was going to be. And it was like pretty close to where I
grew up. And so we all ran over there and I took pictures of her on a disposable camera, but I'm not in them
because I was just taking pictures
on a camera.
And that's it.
It was crazy.
She's wearing a mint green
pantsuit,
I mean,
a skirt suit.
So if you look it up,
once you went to Evanston,
you will see that
it's all real.
And then somebody asked,
I'm going to say this again.
It's so unreal.
I'm going to say this again
because I said it on a podcast
and somebody sent me a link
and it was,
I didn't get to go down
a rabbit hole. They sent me a link of all was I didn't get to go down a rabbit hole.
They sent me a link of all the paparazzi photos from that excursion where they were like, maybe you're in one of these.
And so I'm like, I need that to be sent to me again.
I could never find it again.
It was like an Associated Press or something.
I hope you're in paparazzi photos.
I need I need this because like I was in a crowd of people and I'm sure that, you know, maybe you'll see the top of my head or something.
It was very exciting. I love that yeah so now for our segment is kissing this this is a segment where we
talk about if a kiss was in this film was there a kiss there was a kiss um Natasha the barren monster
kisses that man so he becomes the green monster yes and then she pushes him off a ledge which is
like whoa i know like i was like does he have to be pushed off i guess he gets mad so he like
flies back up he's mad and horny i know he flew back up despite all of their flirting the kiss
was not a romantic kiss it was a mean kiss it was it was a means to an end yeah i didn't like that i guess there was like romantic
things that happened but i mean it's not romantic begging a man to shower with him
no he didn't seem interested and i was confused by that too but then we also had linda cartellini
maybe she kissed you know old jeremy renner i'm assuming maybe because they were saying he was like, hi, honey. That part was,
um,
Oh.
And then she like rubbed his,
where his wound was.
And she's like,
I can tell the difference.
Yeah.
I was like,
okay.
She said,
I'm always supportive of your avenging,
which I bet Joss Whedon thought was very funny.
It's very much like someone being like,
oh yeah.
Are you still improvving?
Yeah. You know me still out here
revenging i'll do it wherever i can yeah i'm not a fan of the farm storyline weird hawkeye in the
comics uh famous divorcee oh famous divorcee bachelor hot mess. Oh, interesting.
Well, it's not what they were showing us here today.
Oh, no.
Too wholesome.
Very.
And like, oh, this is what he really wants.
Like, this is a secret life he wants to have.
It just seems surprising.
OK, time for five stock industries.
This is where we read reviews.
Someone named Hufflepuff at Hogwarts says MCU fan here. This podcast is painful to listen to as a fan of the things it's about.
I definitely mean this in the absolute best way possible.
10 out of 10, you need to listen.
Now that threw me for a loop, but I didn't think that our producers would put in a negative
review.
So it is five stars.
I mean, I'm sure people who listen are going to be really upset with me for this episode.
I just, I, if you wait, Leah, did you like this movie?
No, not at all but i do
but i do like the avengers um that's one of my favorites so that was but this one i did not like
i didn't like where they took the characters i didn't like is there another romance i thought
it was sexist yeah um another avengers movie yeah um infinity war and end game which is like a two
part yeah i'm worried for Infinity War
Endgame will be more fun but
Infinity War has a lot of plot
Oh god plot
Oh no plot
Oh no and then Captain America
Civil War has
Tony Stark and a lot of the other Avengers
In it so it kind of
Feels like Avengers 2.5
No I love the standalone movies.
It's not Joss Whedon.
So maybe you'll like it more.
We'll see.
I just, Joss is like,
I loved Buffy and like the quippiness
that he likes to do
didn't work for me in this,
in this movie.
Yeah.
That was just like corny.
Yeah.
Well, this season, in addition to Apple
reviews of Newcomers, we'll also be reading
reviews from Letterboxd. We're gonna
give a one-sentence
review and a star rating, and if
you don't know what Letterboxd is, it's a social platform
where people can write reviews of films.
You can follow the show on Letterboxd
at Newcomers.
Okay. My review is...
Oh, wait.
First, I'll read this review from somebody we don't know.
The three stars.
Whoever greenlit Natasha and Bruce's sudden relationship is my enemy, and they must be stopped.
I agree, Ellie Bean.
This person said, I hate to say it, but Ultron is kind of hot.
I agree.
That's the most sexually attractive character to me in the film.
And my review is, I wish Ultron and Vision hooked up.
Ooh.
And my review is, I raise a thumbs up to that.
Oh, my God.
That was a bad sentence, but I stand by it.
I raise an old thumbs up to that
and what you can't see listening is I
literally raised my thumb to that
my star rating is
a one
wow oh I forgot to rate it a star I would give it
um I would give it
two and a half stars
I'm kind of loose with my stars
yeah I'm tight tight with my
stars
um Leah I'm kind of loose with my stars. Yeah, I'm tight, tight with my stars.
Leah, how tight are you with your stars?
And what's your review?
Oh, boy.
Let me see. Oh, here, I'll cheat and I'll say what I put on Letterboxd when I logged this.
I liked it when Natasha said beep beep.
Okay. That's it that's
a great review and i'll do two stars wow all right two stars um leah we've come to the end
oh wait no i don't want to ask you to promote anything yet so listen to this on uh no write
a review on apple podcasts uh because we're going to pick one for next week and uh also you can rate the podcast on
spotify now leah yes what you want to plug um you can follow me on twitter at leah marilla you can
follow me on letterboxd at leah marilla um i am writing all over the place i'm at slash film i'm
at polygod i'm at cosmopolitan and I am recapping Moon Knight for Vulture.
So that's Marvel related.
Great.
You should check me out there.
Well, that'll come in handy.
That's how I've seen those episodes, really.
Oh, good for you.
That's fun.
That show looks fun.
Well, we'll be back next week with Ant-Man,
which I think might be funny.
I like Paul Rudd.
I've actually seen this one.
It's funny.
But I don't remember't remember oh that's perfect
um well we'll just see you next week and talk about the ant man bye bye bye Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.