Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Captain America: The First Avenger (w/ James III)

Episode Date: March 29, 2022

Wait... could it be? A Marvel installment that Nicole and Lauren actually enjoy? We can all thank the handsome, wholesome Steve Rogers for this little MCU miracle. Comedian/writer James III (Black Men Can't Jump [In Hollywood]) travels back with us to 1942 to discuss the pecs and pitfalls that come with being the Star Spangled Man With A Plan and how much more fun it is to fight bad guys with the help of all your friends. Next week's movie: Marvel's The Avengers (2012) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Rogers, Steven. Just give me a chance. Sorry son. I'm saving your life. General Patton has said that wars are fought with weapons, but they are won by men. Our goal is to create the greatest army in history. I should be going with you.

Look, I know you don't think I can do this. This isn't a back alley, Steve. It's war. But every army begins with one man. Five tries in five different cities. I can offer you a chance. He will be the first in a new breed of super soldiers. Why me? Because a weak man knows the value of strength.

Knows the value of power. That wasn't so bad. That was penicillin. We are going to win this war because we have the best men. Now, Mr. Stark. They will personally escort Adolf Hitler to the gates of hell. How do you feel? It's all me.

Your task won't be simple. Who the hell are you? The first of many. Your enemy is not what you expect. I don't know if I can do this. This is why you've been chosen. What do you think? I think it works. Wow. Wow, it's another episode of Newcomers.

I'm Nicole Byer. And Lauren Lapkus is here, baby. Hi, Lauren Lapkus. Oh my goodness, we're really doing this. We are doing it. God, and honestly, Lauren. What? You hate this one?

It's exhausting! I liked this one. You did? Ew! Ew! Ew, scrawny, weird Chris Evans. Not that part! It's a soldier! I gotta talk about that. The way his face was floating on that head. I just

need to dissect this. But I did, you know, once he got to be himself, I was quite intrigued by the film. Okay. I liked the last two minutes. I liked the last two minutes. I know that baseball game because I was at that baseball game. Where am I? That was really exciting.

I was like, why didn't you start the movie here that's so true well i guess the next one will pick up well i don't know what i don't know what i'm talking about who knows well yeah the teaser at the end i watched it for whatever reason disney plus keeps it tiny and i don't know how to make it big so i had to walk up to my tv to watch it isn't it funny that it says at the end, like, Captain America will, or whatever, like, will appear in the next, like, it's like they're, like, letting you know, like, don't worry, you'll see him again. He's coming back. I wasn't worried.

I wasn't worried. But we should introduce what this episode is. Oh, yes. We haven't said that. We are, we watched Captain America, the first Avenger. OK, it came out in 2011. This is the fourth episode of our fifth season. We're making our way through the Marvel Universe. Yep. With the help of newcomer super fans and sometimes people who have contributed, there's 20 episodes. So we're going to miss, I think, seven movies. Yes, because there's 27

movies in this fucking franchise. Oh my God. So many. So if you want to watch Captain America, it's on Disney+. You can also watch it for a fee on Amazon, Apple TV, Google Play, and Vudu. And obviously we're going to spoil this movie for you if you haven't seen it. So, you know, take that for whatever that means to you. If you want to watch it, watch it. If you don't care, then don't watch it. Then don't watch it. Just have a fun time listening.

Our guest today, James III, is a writer, actor, producer, best known for co-creating and co-starring the Netflix sketch series, Astronomy Club, which is very funny. He also co-hosts the podcast, Black Men Can't Jump in Hollywood. Ooh, James! Welcome, James. Ooh, James! Welcome, James! Ooh, yes. Thank you for having me. What is your experience with Marvel, and how familiar are you with the MCU?

Yes, okay, so I'm very familiar with the MCU. I love everything I've seen. I love everything I've seen, okay? Okay, good. Everything you've seen? But he's only seen one.

I've only seen this. This is all I've seen. I haven't seen anything else. Oh, good. Everything you've seen? But he's only seen one. I've only seen this. This is all I've seen. I haven't seen anything else. Oh, okay. I read some Marvel comics, but I'm not like super steeped in. So I'm not as familiar with the comics as I am with like, well, in this movie, they said XYZ. I can do that stuff. So in the comics is Captain America.

So, okay. I've heard that like I cannot comment on Captain America comics at all oh so you're not well versed in those no understanding of Captain America she did one of our episodes and she said that no one cared about Iron Man in the comics yeah like that wasn't like a popular comic yeah is yeah is um Captain America a popular comic yeah is yeah is um uh captain america a popular comic so i'm i that was the one thing that i knew was that people didn't care about iron man until robert darnay jr played him the way that he played him but i don't know how how revered captain america is the one thing i know about captain america is that there's a comic that came out a few years ago where he is Hydra and that was

everyone was like no we don't like this how dare you do this to us what does that mean so Captain America was the the red man well he wasn't the red man but but yes but like Hydra's the red man but he was him like what do you mean like because he fights so like Hydra's Hydra's the Redman. But he was him? Like, what do you mean? Because he fights him. So, like, Hydra's the organization, you know? And the Redman was the Redman. Oh, I thought the Redman was Hydra. What's his name? His name is Red Skull. His name is Red Skull?

Come on. Because of his red. I'm sure there's, like, more to it. Like, whatever else you're supposed to say. Oh, okay. Yeah, there it is. I mean, if I was a villain and my face was all red and gross, I wouldn't call myself Red Skull. Maybe I'd call myself Scarlet Evil or something fun.

Blood Face. Blood Face is good. I don't know. This movie, I actually really enjoyed this movie. And I was prepared to not like it for various reasons. And my husband wasn't a fan of this one. So I thought maybe it would be bad. But I really liked it.

I liked how it was kind of real reality a little bit. I mean, I guess maybe they're all going to be like that. Is that what we're in store for, James? That they're going to have like a taste of like the real world mixed with something supernatural? I'm going to say this is going to go away soon.

This general vibe is going to go away soon. And I when I first saw this, I didn't like it as much. But watching it now after seeing everything, it was so refreshing to go back to like, we're just dealing with Captain America.

Oh man, he got to go on a publicity tour. That was a nice change. There's a formula that you'll see that they start to fall into. I did like how it looked aesthetically, and I thought it was well shot. It seemed very, not like indie, but it was grounded. But then they killed Stanley Tucci's, and I was very upset about that. Oh no, I was glad. You weren't glad?

I wasn't glad, but I said, oh, we don't have to talk to him anymore. I love Stanley Tucci. weren't glad but i said oh god we don't have to talk to him anymore i love i was like i'm so sad but i didn't like the german accent it was terrible and i loved it also his friend bucky and howard stark to me were interchangeable i know one had a mustache and one did not but i was like so much like no that is true they looked so much alike. No, that is true. They looked so much alike. No, wait, where did Bucky go? I was fully confused. I was like, what is going on? I was like, who's who? And then, Gabe Jones played by, wait, yeah, played by Derek Luke, baby.

Ooh, boy. Juicy lips. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is maybe the best Marvel movie there ever is because it's the only one with Derek Luke, you could say. I mean, I also think it's got some nice kisses. We like to have the kisses.

There was a kiss and I did squeal when there was a kiss, but I also laughed so hard when I saw that the like bombs were labeled. Well, I know. It was like New York. I was like, hmm, well, that makes it easy when you're just trying to do it quickly, send it off. It was so funny to me that they were like, let's label these that makes it easy when you're just trying to do it quickly.

Send it off. It was so funny to me that they were like, let's label these fucking bombs. This one's going to Chicago. This one's going to New York. That's how you know the operation is together. You know, they know what's going on. They know, you know, who getting hit when. See, that's you in trouble when that happens.

They had like a home organizational team come in and just make it super clear. Like these were totally disorganized bombs and now they are labeled in canisters. Oh, my God. Okay. Well, here we have our segment called The Daily Bugle, where we give news for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The Daily Bugle. The Daily Bugle. Anthony Ramos, the star of In the Heights, was cast in the upcoming

Disney Plus Marvel series Ironheart. According to Deadline's source, he will be playing an undisclosed major Marvel character expected to show up in future films

in addition to the TV show. I am so excited. I love Anthony Ramos. I did a show with him in New York years and years and years ago and I was like, he's a fucking star yeah now

he is I knew it in my heart so I'm responsible for his success you are what was the show you did um I did this show at uh it was in Brooklyn and it was with uh Ira Ira Glass yeah This American Life and uh Lin-Manuel Miranda wrote a 15-minute musical called something. I don't know. It's on. And you were in it? No, no. I was in a different one.

Yeah, it's called 21 Chump Street. It's really great. And I'm not in it. I'm in a different story that Sashir told about how we got into a car accident. Wow, cool. More Daily Bugle. What a cool night.

It was very fun. I loved it. Have you seen Anthonyony ramos's um audition for rum tum tugger though have you seen that because that will change your life it will change your life is it good he tweeted it sometime with during the shutdown he was like listen i was i almost got this part and it it's incredible i have to see that. Yes. Okay. I'm going to set it up so I can look at it later. Okay. More Daily Bugle.

A new trailer for Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness debuted during the Super Bowl and featured a mystery voice that sounds a lot like Patrick Stewart as Professor X. Oh, so wait, what? So instead of like recasting Professor X when I'm so confused about like like I know Fox has X-Men so does is Marvel gonna do more X-Men or do an X-Men movie I really hope so I really. I hope so too, because the reboots were like not great. And the last one was pretty shitty. I'm a huge X-Men fan. I find it so interesting.

You didn't like any of the reboots? No, just that you love X-Men, but like you've been actively avoiding this whole franchise, which is like, to me, similar as someone who doesn't watch either. Well, no, because none of this has Storm. And I'm here for Storm. And Halle Berry's a terrible Storm. In the first movie, she has an accent.

And then in the second one, they were like, hey, girl, you don't have to do it. And she doesn't do it. Wow. Let me tell you, that will happen as you continue to watch these movies, too. You will see people who have an accent that then don't have one

it's gonna be nice it's gonna be fun I really like that I like that they just go you know what stop we love you you don't need to do that we don't need this and then they cast I think it's Alexa's ship for the newer ones and she I like her she's a great actress

but she like didn't bring me the like strength of storm when i was little i just fucking loved storm oh that's cute yeah oh yeah like she could control the weather and like sometimes i would get hot and be like oh what does a nice wind be good i is that her catchphrase all i want to be is like i want them to do a storm origin movie i want to be Storm's fat friend who's like, Storm, it's hot. You make it

windy. Also, I'm thirsty. Can we have some rain? Wait, so you would be upset if they could, if Halle Berry came back as Storm. Is that what it said? Because it's like, oh, they didn't. Okay, yes, I understand. I want like a strong

lady to play storm oh what whoa michaela cole has been cast in the black panther theory and one of the theories is that she's stormed that would be so holy shit i'm here for it that's incredible yeah i just read exactly what you wrote even though it didn't make sense she was cast i mean michaela cole was cast in the black panther sequel okay that's what i was trying to say that's so amazing she's like so that would be awesome that'd be a really interesting uh casting choice too yeah i'm here for that she's so pretty she is she's so talented god i love meet her i may destroy you that was so good i haven, I loved. I just want to meet her. I May Destroy You. That was so good. I haven't watched it yet.

Oh my God, what? I'm trying to get into the mindset to watch it. Yeah, I mean, it's intense. I got a little bit of spoilers, so. It's intense. Okay. But it's really good. I want to be in a good place to watch it.

You can't just throw that on any old night. Yeah, and don't binge it, I guess, if that's how you're feeling. Then watch it over time. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Should we watch the trailer to Doctor Strange? Doctor Strange is the man in Spider-Man

whose house was filled with snow? Yes. Okay. Lauren, I watched Spider-Man and I had so many questions and it was really upsetting because I went with a friend who was like, you talk during everything.

You cannot talk during this. And I was like, what? That's not okay. They know that about you. Then why? Why invite you? I know. I was like, don't stifle me. And then guess what? They talked during the whole movie. And I felt vindicated. Did you just remain silent?

I was just silent and nodding. They were like, you can't talk, but I can. I can talk all I want. Okay, do we want to watch this trailer? Let's watch this trailer, baby! Every night I dream the same dream. Then...

The nightmare begins. What was that bedroom? It's very opulent. I did what I had to do. Oh, my God. To protect our world. Okay. What do you know about the multiverse? Viz had his theories. He believed it was dangerous. He was right.

I'm sorry, Steven. Your desecration of reality will not go unpunished. We should tell him the truth. Well, obviously, that's not a mystery voice. Let's get real. Oh, their heads are cut up. That was funny.

You break the rules. Look out! Become a hero. I do it. I become the enemy. That doesn't seem fair. Okay. Okay. Okay. I like Elizabeth Olsen.

I like her too. And I like that she's living out the dreams of her sisters, Mary Kay and Ashley, by talking to herself like she's a twin. I feel like she built a really nice career for herself. She waited to become an actor until she was no longer a child, which I think was great too. Yeah. I think when you have the example right in your home, you go,

eh, maybe I don't do that. But she did act as a child. She wasn't in Adventures of Mary, Kate and Ashley. Oh my God. That's hilarious. She played,

guess what? The twin sister. What? Okay. And I think their brother might have been in it too. Oh, wow. Well, you got to get everyone in there when you can. Oh, shit.

I used to have those VHSs. I wonder if I threw them away. Oopsies. Anyway, there's more Daily Bugle. Oh, yes. Speaking of X-Men. We say it in sync. I'll take it.

Channing Tatum said recently in an interview that he was so traumatized by not getting to play gambit that he can't watch marvel movies he was set to star as the character in a solo film that unfortunately got scrapped when disney bought fox fun fact i auditioned for that movie wow whoa i think i signed an nda but like since it's not happening i think i can talk about it right i don't remember the sides but I did tape it in a shower in Costa Rica. In a shower? Was that the only white background you had? Yes.

There was like iguanas, like stapled to the wall everywhere. Cause it was like this place called Casa Iguana or whatever. That's so funny. So yeah, me and Sashir taped our self tapes. I remember them being good. i remember them being about guess what cards because that's what gambit is all about okay so wait so disney bought fox and then they

just completely scrapped the entire project why probably because they have their own what is it it's like phases or whatever so they're probably going to reintroduce X-Men in some sort of phasing. I also read that he was, him and his directing partner, they were trying to direct it and they hadn't directed a feature

before and they kept being like, we're going to do it. But they have Dog coming out now. who's dog that's the name of the movie it's channing it's channing tatum's dog oh i thought this is like like a fucking marvel movie it's just a movie about a dog yeah well you got to start somewhere yeah wait we should watch that trailer i feel like it's very uh much something a man do to be like, I want to direct the next X-Men movie.

I've never directed, but can I do it? It's like, that's so bold. And they would probably let people do that. I mean, that happens all the time. When I read that, I was surprised they didn't just go, yeah, y'all can, you know, you're that guy from 21 Jump Street. You can figure it out. i would let him do it i thought he'd be a good gambit um i wonder like i feel like fantastic four was directed by somebody who only had directed one other thing there's a lot of that but it's just always surprising to me like i just feel like um it would be hard for me at least to say I'll do it if I never do

Lauren I think you should just believe in yourself say you'll direct the next Dr. Strange movie okay I'll do it I'd love the chance I'd love the chance I would love that opportunity I would see it I would see it and I would probably enjoy it yeah I think the whole world would see it, and I would probably enjoy it. Yeah, I think the whole world would see it. They'd be like, Lauren Lapkus directing a Doctor Strange movie? I got it, Captain. That's random. Let's go laugh at that. Oh, my God. Okay, well, let's take a break, and then we'll jump into Captain America.

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ever seen and we will get to that when we let's jump into the summary here and we'll talk about what we thought so the film opens in the arctic circle in the present day where researchers uncover the buried wreckage of a large wing-shaped aircraft i forgot that it starts there you know what i when this started i said what the fuck is this and as you read it now i'm like that's captain america who's in there to the end so inside they discover a frozen circular object with a red white and blue motif discover a frozen circular object with a red white and blue motif i cannot believe i'm only connecting that now yeah we cut to march 1942 where hydra forces it's a top secret science division of the nazi party invades a stone church in norway seeking a mysterious cosmic artifact

known as the tesseract which possesses untold powers their leader johan schmidt hugo weaving also from the matrix has he's mr mr what's his name i haven't seen the agent smith mr smith you've never seen the major agent smith yep oh agent smith i'm sorry thank you james uh he's an agent yes Yes. You gotta watch the first one. I will watch it. Okay. Has the churchkeeper who guarded the Tesseract killed, along with everybody in the village? Yeah.

So in 1943, what I liked about this, though, is it kind of feels like, it just feels like a war movie at first. So that was kind of interesting to me. In 1943, Steve Rogers, played by by Chris Evans but he's very small thanks to CGI so he's once again rejected from military duty on the battlefields of World War II because he keeps trying to

go to war but he's really small but what they did was they took an actor with a smaller frame I assume right and they put his face on it I think the body was real that part didn't ever strike me with a smaller frame, I assume, right? And they put his face on it. Put Chris Evans' face on it, yeah. I think the body was real, because he's in all this.

That part didn't ever strike me as odd, right? There's one part where he's sitting in the car, and that head is floating. I was like, they didn't connect it good at all. Sometimes it was so weird. I was offended. Why, you're offended? I was offended.

Look at me. I'm a wiry dude okay you know what I'm saying you could just cast a wiry dude to play the part okay

then CGI the muscles CGI the muscles later don't don't make a big dude small oh I actually I went a different way

with it I thought they should have just cast a different actor for that part and then when he turns into Captain America he's Chris Evans

like I didn't think it needed to I could suspend my disbelief they look slightly different you know cast a different actor for that part and then when he turns into Captain America, he's Chris Evans. I could suspend my disbelief if they look slightly different, you know? Yeah, but then we wouldn't see the range of him being like, hey, I'm just a frail bully. I'll speed up in that alley. I'll speed up in that alley. I'll speed up in that hospital. I'll speed up everywhere.

Now I know what to do. I will fight everybody. The way his face like sometimes it was like really zoomed in on the body so it'd be like so much face and so little like space on the head and then i feel like he was like you so he picture him doing that acting of like being like i'm just a little guy like when he was like in a little like blue screen booth or something with just his face. And he has like some spandex around his body or something. And he's going like, I'm okay. That makes it even funnier.

Just him pretending to be little. I just couldn't believe that when I saw that. I was so shocked. And I was kind of more excited to watch it because I was like, what is going on? Who made this choice? I also just didn't understand why he wanted to be in the war so bad. Me neither. Why was he so desperate to go?

So it says, after multiple attempts due to his frail physical appearance and numerous health issues, he keeps getting rejected. He later picks a fight at a movie theater, gets beat up in an alley. rejected he later picks a fight at a movie theater gets beat up in an alley well so in the movie theater the guy's like screaming over like a war video that starts is playing before the movie and then he's like defending the war he's like they're honorable let them be or whatever and then this guy kicks his ass and then bucky barnes his best friend played by sebastian stan who rescues him while attending stark expo seems like there's always a fucking Stark Expo happening. Yeah, right? With Bucky in two dates, Steve tries to enlist again.

Imagine like going on a date and being like, I gotta get to war. Fuck this lady. I know. And he keeps lying about where he lives so he can enlist again. And there's a big sign that's like, it's illegal to lie about your whatever facts. That was interesting because I was like, that never comes back. No one didn't fucking matter. They wanted to just use him as an experiment.

It only mattered for that moment. Yeah. Yeah. He was afraid for a little bit, but then they saw that he could just be the person that they do this to. They put him in. So after overhearing Steve's conversation with Bucky about wanting to help in the war, so after overhearing Steve's conversation with Bucky about wanting to help in the war Abraham Erskine Stanley Tucci's allows Steve to enlist as a candidate of Project Rebirth a super soldier experiment being conducted by the Strategic Scientific Reserve or SSR under

the supervision of Erskine uh Chester Phillips Tommy jones who boy oh boy he's got real big ears that i've never clocked and boy is he old i was concerned i so i hope he gets to sit down in between takes and peggy carter hayley atwell yeah he tommy lee jones i feel like he's kind of looked the same for a long time though like he's kind of stalled out at a certain age um he's got such a he's just who he is you know what i mean like when he's in this role i was like that's he's just being tommy lee jones which i didn't hate watching watching this made me realize i hadn't seen him in a while and i was like oh is he gonna does he look just like this still like you know would he be because i guess what i'm thinking is that he does look like that now but maybe i don't know i think he does i'm looking at his wikipedia he looks the

same he's 75 years old so he is up there so he was 65 when they shot this which seems younger than i would have put you know um i yep i'm there with you he's he's probably lived a hard life in a good way you know he's gone hard like he's he's he's kind of like weathered in a way that makes you think he just smokes cigarettes and does whatever he fucking wants yeah yeah live your life to the fullest that's the timely jones method you gotta just do it totally okay so phillips doesn't think that steve is the right person for the procedure, but changes his mind after seeing the way Steve threw himself on a dummy grenade during basic training. I did not understand why he did this.

So the guy, so they throw him. Because he thought his little body would shield everyone from an explosion. Oh. He's delusional. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fully delusional. that's why he keeps trying to enlist you did you try to protect you do whatever you can to protect that's why he tossed it because

he thought the other dude was gonna do it too you know he thought the other dude was gonna jump down on it you know because that's what you do but why wouldn't everyone just run away from it like why does someone have because they're not heroes that's why everyone runs away steve is a fucking hero because he put his frail body on an explosive it was very cute how he kind of just leapt onto it and then everyone was like oh it was fake oh i'd be like he's not the right person for the job because if that was a real grenade all his like little bones would have gone flying in the air and probably hit somebody in the eye. I would have been mad.

Oh, my God. I liked how this opening sequence was very like Men in Black. It was like Tommy Lee Jones doing the same thing from Men in Black, but to. Yes. But now it's just Steve Rogers. Yeah, it was like just beat by beat the same thing. Yeah, it was like just beat by beat the same thing. So the night before the treatment, Erskine reveals to Steve that Schmidt underwent an imperfect version of the procedure and suffered negative side effects due to his inner ambition for power and obsession with becoming a superior man.

However, he reassures Steve that he chose him because he believed Steve was an inherently good man and that because he had been weak his whole life, he would not lose respect for the strength he would gain. Aww. Yeah, I was like, okay. I mean, just because he's like this scrawny little man doesn't mean he's inherently good. Do you know what I mean? No, and I mean, he seems to like, he adapts to being hot and strong like so easily. Like he never like looks in the mirror and goes,

he's just like, I'm strong now, let's go. Like it's just like i'm strong now let's go like it's just so easy for him he got a little he run a little weird you know what i mean can't quite control how he run yeah he flies into uh the like window and breaks it and he's like oh then he's like back to running put some shoes on him i know when he runs out barefoot wow that was intense i was like that's disgusting so back in europe schmidt and arnon zola toby jones uses one of his machines successfully harnessing the energies of tesseract intending to use the power to fuel zola's inventions he also dispatches to kill an assassin to kill erskine in new york city steve undergoes the super soldier treatment.

He's put in a special chamber. So this was like the Stefan Urkel moment for him. It truly was. I was like, I can follow this. So he's put in a special chamber where Erskine administers the super soldier serum and doses him with Vita-Rays. Steve emerges from the chamber. All of that was stupid. Super soldier treatment, super soldier serum, Vita-Rays.

I know. This is all first draft shit. It's so silly. We'll just give him the super soldier serum. Okay, fine. Just put that in there for now. Steve emerges from the chamber taller and with an enhanced physique. What a polite way to put it.

After witnessing the success of the experiment, one of the attendees reveals himself to be Schmidt's assassin, Heinz Kruger, Richard Armitage, who shoots Erskine, killing him. So, yeah, he gets into this, like, he's in, like, what's it called? Like, where they do, like, a surgery in, like, the sort of viewing place, like the theater. And so he's in that. And they put him inside this little, like, rocket. And they shoot him up with all this blue goo.

And thankfully they closed the machine. Because I didn't want him to have the sort of nutty professor moment where he's like... I did. I wanted to see those muscles bulge. I wanted to see his eyes get big and wide and his arms like... His head expands to make sense of his face.

Yeah, that's what I wanted. That would have been really funny. So Kruger grabs the last vial of the super soldier serum and escapes the facility into the streets of new york steve is now super strong and super fast and he manages to catch kruger but the vials broken in the process and the assassin immediately commits suicide with a cyanide pill before he can be interrogated for information as he dies he says hail hydra can we talk about how he committed suicide with his tooth that was cyanide?

That was the weirdest. He literally like pops his tooth out, chops it, which made me sick. And then crunched. It was gross. And then it was cyanide

and it started filming in his mouth and he died. So like, what was that? James, do you know about this? I mean, I've seen stuff like this

in other spy movies. How does somebody know? Like I've seen, I've seen it happen this in other spy movies I've seen it happen but the thing I don't understand is like how do you if you always have cyanide in your tooth like how do you go about your everyday with the cyanide pill like how do you eat corn on the cob

with your cyanide tooth without killing yourself you have to be very careful and eat on one side of your mouth. Also, are people popping out their tooth? Do you have to have not a tooth? Right. It's not just

loss of tooth. Yeah, he was really slick with it. He'd done it a lot, but that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that was weird. That made me kind of sick. There was a point, too. That evil guy was attacking or was like threatening to kill a child in that moment. He was like holding this kid at gunpoint. And then he throws the kid into the water, whatever water it is.

And the kid's like, don't worry, I can swim. Go get him. I can swim. Like, all right. Very like Jimmy Olsen, like, go, go get him. I loved it. I thought it was so funny. It's so funny to me how nobody was really like, wow, what's happening?

Like the lady was like, put my kid down. And that's about all she said. I know. Like the stakes are much higher than that. Right. That man was willing to do anything, including kill himself one minute later. He would not have cared what happened to that child. So Steve is approached

by senator brandt offered uh offering the chance to tour the nation for the uso to promote war donations although steve is happy to be contributing towards the war effort he's such a good guy he grows increasingly weary of being paraded around and not able to fight actively in the war itself so this part could have been cut it could have been one minute stuff for time yeah when i when i first saw the movie i didn't like this part at all i didn't understand the justification of like you know you you're a super soldier but you're not good enough like i didn't get i didn't get what made him not good enough i guess not preventing the explosion to begin with but how could he just came out the... Right.

I don't know why. Once he was made strong, why is he being held back in this way and he's just kind of being paraded around as like a little mascot? I didn't understand. I didn't get that either. That's why I was like, cut it for a time. I liked it.

You liked it? So you like it now? I liked it. Why? Yeah, it still doesn't make sense. I still don't know why they did it. It's got to be explained. And I just didn't see it.

But I like the, like, him being beat down by this and then how he overcomes it afterwards. Yeah. Like, it hit me much harder this time. Well, I guess it's kind of cute because it makes him sort of an underdog still. And then so that when he starts to really prove how good he is, it makes more exciting that he's a superhero or something yeah i don't know yeah because i mean it would have been kind of quick it would have just been like he got the goo then he's strong and he's like kicking ass like it was just a little way to like build a story i guess to make it so he cared more if he ever got to do his thing okay so, so meanwhile in Germane, Schmidt has declared his succession

from the Third Reich. It's Reich, right? Do I say that right? Claiming that Hydra could grow no further under Adolf Hitler's shadow. Using the stored energy in the Tesseract, Hydra creates a variety of weapons and other technology,

quickly giving the faction the potential to become a major threat to the war front and the world at large. So back with the SSR, Steve learns that Bucky's unit was lost in a battle against Hydra. He refuses to believe that Bucky is dead and becomes determined to mount a solo rescue attempt with help from Carter and Howard Stark, who fly him behind enemy lines. Steve manages... Real easily.

Yeah. They're dodging the shots from the Hydra rays that just evaporate people. But you dip, you go up, you go side to side, and nobody's going to get you. I know, I really felt sad when people were getting evaporated by that. I was like, that's a life lost. I don't know. That's a life lost. It's hitting me.

Sincerely is one of the most violent Marvel movies it felt like. A man gets chopped up and you see blood sprayed behind. The blood trail? The children see this? I couldn't believe it. They would never do that now, I feel like. But in the early days, they were just like, yeah, a guy gets

fully chopped up. Yeah. More than chopped up. He went through a food processor. Yeah, he was blended. it was he was a smoothie that was a while yeah well in the beginning when the bad guy shoots that old man and then the blood spatters onto his little pin and he's like that was fucked up too so okay so steve manages to sneak into hydra's main factory where he finds and frees most of the captive soldiers including including Bucky, who he discovers is being operated on in an isolation ward of the factory.

And I couldn't figure out if he had been operated or was the operation was beginning because he was like a little dazed. He was like, oh my God, you big? Yeah, it did not hit him enough that his friend now looked completely different in a way that was completely impossible. But we see later in the bar where he's like, I guess I'm now a piece of shit and girls don't like me. And I was like, wow. Wow. Someone was in their feelings writing that scene. Yeah.

But I feel like he stays that way. In the first few scenes, they're like they're friends and he's chummy and he's this. But for the rest of this movie, he is looking at Steve like, I'm supposed to be the one with the muscles. I know. He's so upset at him. When he says, let's hear

it for Captain America, he gives him the side eye to end all side eyes. Yeah, I clocked that too I was like wow I know and he and it's like don't be so jealous like just be excited that your friend is doing well yeah your friend is hot now you can actually go on go on double dates do everything you want he's still hot Bucky maybe he liked it in the beginning where he was like I'm gonna go try to get in the army again he's like great i'm gonna have a threesome with these women yeah okay so schmidt sees what's going on sets the factory to self-destruct to cover hydra's operations as the building begins to detonate

schmidt confronts steve on a high catwalk and reveals his face is actually a mask that was crazy believe that um so it's a red skull like visage a result of the super soldier serum that earned him the nickname the red skull so how come steve has a face still because he didn't have a bad like he didn't have the bad serum he wasn't he wasn't evil inside so it like reacted well with his body and was just like it'll just so funny that like if you're a good person super soldier serum will just make you hot and if you are evil you will look like you're inside yeah have come to that thing about him having the red skull underneath his mask i don't think i knew that going into it the first time i saw it but watching it this time there's a point like two scenes, where he like itches his eye

and like his eyelid goes down just a little bit too far. It's like, but I don't know if you would have seen it if you didn't know what was coming, but it goes down.

He got, it's like really, it's gross. It's really gross. So I'm glad that you didn't. That's cool. Clever nod to what's going to happen.

Okay. Steve gains his superior what's going to happen. Okay. Steve gains his superior officer's respect and is given high rank and the chance to fight as a key figure on the war front opposing Hydra directly. Steve recruits Bucky Dumb Dumb Dugan. I missed that character's name. I missed that man's name. Dumb Dumb Dugan? Gabe Jones, Jim Morita, James Montgomery Falsworth and Jacques Dernier as his personal team of howling commandos to take out the other known Hydra operations. So, yeah, this is when they start just kicking ass and taking names.

And it was funny that he had like a crew because I was like, he has a crew for five minutes of this. I know where they go. I don't know. And also, who are they? Like, he doesn't know these people. That's true. They're not like his friends that we care about or something. No, but they're, what's his name?

They're Bucky's friends. Is that his friend's name? Yeah, Bucky. Yeah. So maybe he's like, if you're good with Bucky, you're good with me. He also gains the respect of private Lorraine, Natalie Dormer, who pulls him in for a kiss as Carter,

who's visibly jealous, calls him to test some equipment with Stark. Howard outfits Steve with a durable custom combat uniform and a circular shield made of vibranium, which he explains is the rarest metal of the earth, stronger than steel, a third of the weight. And I was like, did this billionaire steal from the Africans? Oh, yeah.

Wait, is that what it's called? Because vibranium is from Africa. It's from Black Panther. It's also what, that's what Wolverine's lined with, right? No? Oh, no, he's with adenomum. Ademantium. Or adenomum.

Adenomum. Adamantium. Adenomum. What is it? What is it? Adamantium. What? I think you can think of it as the hero Adamantium.

Oh, adamantium. Well, what's adamantium? It's different than vibranium? It's some compound. Some thing. I don't know. Well, don't know he used his shield i didn't know he was gonna throw it like that like he would just throw it and like kill people like he just like throws it at a tree and some guy falls out and then he throws it and bounces back like a boomerang i think that was pretty fun i didn't

know that was gonna happen i was like this is the strongest Frisbee I've ever seen. So two years later, Steve and the Howling Commandos assaults a train carrying Zola. That's what they're called? The Howling Commandos? I guess. What? Steve? Did Dum Dum name them that? Let's be the Howling Commandos.

All right, Dum Dum Dugan. All right, Dum Dum Dugan. Steve and Bucky engage in a fight with the soldiers on the train, during which Bucky falls from the train, while Jones locates Zola and captures him. Steve is deeply affected by the loss of his best friend, and is convinced by Carter to use his sorrow as motivation to put an end to Hydra for good.

Using information extracted from Zola, the final Hydra stronghold is located and they lead an attack to stop Schmidt from attacking the United States. So then Steve climbs aboard Valkyrie, Hydra's massive aircraft bomber, as it takes off. During the fight, a machine containing the Tesseract is damaged. Schmidt handles the Tesseract, which opens a wormhole into space, sucking him right into that bright light.

The cube falls to the floor, burning through the plane and falling into the ocean. Can we talk about when he takes the blue thing and then he just like it melts his entire face and body and he goes into orbit like it was like yeah and i was like so we think captain america is a hero he just like accidentally hit that thing and then he was like not my cube and then the cube took him the cube is the hero yeah i didn't i agree i fully agree like i didn't like that when i first saw it and i still don't like it now like i don't like that like red skull is supposed to have whatever the serum inside of him but all it did was remove his face skin right. But this final battle should have been like,

I don't know, like they're punching each other like out the plane and then jumping out and grabbing him, pulling him into the plane. You know, all kinds of crazy stuff. Because all he does with his red face is literally run away. Yeah. He just like keeps leaving the scene being like,

ooh, I don't want to be here. I'm going to get in my little spaceship. You drive my car, not a scratch. Yeah, I thought that was really weird. And yeah, then the cube falls and burns the plane and falls in the ocean. I was like, wait, like that cube was insane. First of all, was the cube always just in Red Skull's hands

like the entire time? Like when he's the first one to open it in the beginning then does captain america interact with the cube no i don't think anyone touches it so it's just a line that yeah well in in this a line that's stood out to me this time than the first time is someone says like oh they've got the old man that he kills in the beginning maybe it's like you'll you'll never be able to wield the power you'll never be able to hold that in your hands it's like the first thing is said to so then it's just supposed to hit like he tries to hold it and then you know or whatever oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you know steve is also just like oh he's dead i can't land this

um with no way't land this plane. With no way to land the plane without detonating its weapon, Steve crashes it into the Arctic shelf while making a sorrowful goodbye to Carter, making a promise to take her dancing. Stark later recovers the Tesseract from the ocean floor, but is unable to locate Steve's body or Schmidt's aircraft. Yeah, I wasn't scared here because I figured it was gonna end well but

i didn't know how but the stakes didn't feel that exciting to me right here because i was like well there's no way he's gonna die yeah he can't die because i know he becomes a winter soldier so this is this is the best part i think steve awakens in a 1940s-style hospital room, deducing from the radio broadcast of a baseball game that he attended that something is wrong. So they were playing a radio broadcast of a game, and he's like, wait, this game's from 1941. I was at that game.

This can't be possible. And the nurse is like, um, sir, and she's pushing a button, and all these people come in, and he breaks through the wall like he's on The Truman Show. He runs outside, and he's in present day times square which is so crazy it says american eagle behind him and then also like forever 21 i was like wow shout out to that but i was like he's taking this so well he's adapting to the lights he's nothing i would have been like it's bright what's all the noise what is everyone wearing what are these vehicles he's just basically confused about the date more

than anything yes he was like you're lying about the date and then nick fury that was exciting what the fuck how is he just here i like that i like that so nick fury walks up and tells him he's been asleep for 70 years and stunned by this revelation steve's only response is that he had a date i thought that was actually cute that was like a basically a rom-com at this point yeah this was a nice ending but i was mad at the oversight of the date like how do you they they do this whole thing and they're like yep let's do it from a baseball game that i guess he not only was he at but like he watched you know i mean like he like i know everything that was happening like it's just really funny to me the attention to detail because i don't think he died in 1941 well that's what doesn't make sense because he saw the baseball game

so he died in 1942 and they didn't think to get a baseball game from like insane like that's what I don't understand it's like because like the date could be said during that like you just want to like I don't know I mean that was that's what I was so confused about like why did they pick a game that he was at before he even became

Captain America he didn't go to a game I think they just fucked up. They just picked something they were like, I don't know, something from the fucking 40s? Yeah, it was just somebody going like, here's one I found on YouTube and like they just put it on. You're trying to ease someone into 75 years in the future. Just

play a different game. Yeah, just think about that a little bit. Oh my God. Yeah, just to touch, you know? I also love that that nurse was like, um, you're in New York? And he's like, no. Tell me where I really am. She's like, oh no.

She panicked so fast. Oh, you're so down. It was her first day having to handle him. I do think he didn't prep her. He was not awake ever before. This was her first time she had to come in and do her lines, and she freaked out immediately.

Truly. She couldn't even go like, oh, you're just feeling fuzzy. No, that's not the date. Like, she had to come in and do her lines, and she freaked out immediately. Truly. She couldn't even go like, oh, you're just feeling fuzzy. No, that's not the date. She didn't come up with anything. She just pushed a button, and they all went crazy. Oh, my God. Should we take a little break? Let's do it. Okay, well, this movie was not nominated for any major awards,

but the film was pretty well received critically. It has an 80% approval rating on Rotten Tomatoes, with a consensus that reads, with plenty of poppy action, a pleasantly retro vibe, and a handful of fine performances, Captain America is solidly old-fashioned blockbuster entertainment. I actually agree. However, Karina Longworth, who hosts the Hollywood History Podcast, you must remember this, reviewed it for The Village Voice writing, a hokey hacky two-hour-plus exercise

in franchise transition slash price gouging complete with utterly unnecessary post-converted 3D. Oh, it was in 3D? What? Price gouging? I don't know. What does that mean? Yeah, what does that mean? Maybe the 3D tickets?

Oh, maybe. I don't know. But, geez, calm down. But what price gouging means? Yeah, no, I don't know but geez calm down but what price kareena's man yeah no i don't know yeah what would that be it's like how did they are they saying it's cheap that's isn't that what because when you yeah maybe she maybe it's like the 3d ticket prices are more expensive and she's like and i didn't want to pay it yeah i, I don't know. Well, audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of A-. Well, that's good.

And here's our new segment. Is Chris in this? So we have to have a conversation as to whether Chris was in this. And I'm going to say there was a Chris. There was a Chris. And can I just say that I have never understood the excitement about Chris Evans.

I mean, I've always been like, yeah, he's a good looking person, whatever. I don't really care that I now understand it. I understand why everyone is, he's a superstar, very obsessed with who he's dating,

all that kind of stuff. I understand the fandom. Who is he dating? Well, I don't know now, but I also watched a video the other day of him and his brother, like scaring each other. And it was very cute and charming.

They like surprise each other all the time and like scream each other's name, hiding behind something. And it was very cute and charming. They surprise each other all the time and scream each other's name hiding behind something. And it was funny. I liked him. I thought he was really likable. And I want more. And it's half of why I liked the movie was him. So I think I'm on board for Chris Evans now.

He is very charismatic. I did enjoy the performance. I really couldn't get behind him scrawny. No, that was weird. That was a little much for me. Yeah, he quickly becomes one of my favorite characters. Oh, wait, Captain America's your favorite character? Well, he quickly becomes one of my favorite characters after this.

My favorite character is Hulk. I love Hulk. I feel like Hulk not getting the love. He not getting the love he needs. I'm excited for the She-Hulk show. I think that's gonna be fun.

But they not, you know what I'm saying? Hulk need to be out here smashing and stuff. They not letting him do it. Did you like the Ed Helms Incredible Hulk? Ed Norton.

Wait. Hold on. I would love an Ed Helms Incredible Hulk. Ed Helms as Hulk would be so funny. We gotta do that. Someone has to do that. It meant Edward Norton. I would love an Ed Helms. Ed Norton. Ed Helms as Hulk would be so funny. We got to do that. Someone has to do that.

It meant Ed Norton. Did you like that one? I did like that one, but I am a Ang Lee Hulk stan. So I am sort of upset of how that movie has been sort of ostracized. Yeah, we're not even covering it because we were told it's trash. It's also not in the MCU. It, we're not even covering it because we were told it's trash. It's not, it's also not in the MCU. It's not, it's quote unquote not in the MCU. It's not canon?

It's not canon, but Ed Norton's Hulk starts with a flashback of events that's basically the whole Ang Lee Hulk movie. They're like, this didn't happen, but it happened. You know what I mean? Oh. Okay.

Well, I'm intrigued. Leah's furiously typing. She wants to see it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. Leah is protecting herself and saying, Incredible Hulk was trash.

She did not say Ang Lee Hulk was trash. That is the key difference there. So... Jennifer Connelly is fantastic in angley's hulk and and eric banna is also fantastic and not that i don't like edward norton or uh live tyler they're both great but i just miss my friends yeah i'm saying wait so angley's hulk was the first Hulk movie? Yeah, it was the first Hulk movie that they made during this... I think it came out a few years after Spider-Man. And it's not Marvel? Well, it is Marvel, but it's not Marvel Cinematic Universe.

So is it Sony? We're lost. No. What are these phases? No, it's Universal. What are the phases? Do you understand the phase thing? Yes, I do understand the phases.

Can you tell us? So the phases are just periods of movie that's the rollout that they had essentially but so like phase one no my i'm so confused by this because like on disney plus the films are categorized in phase one phase two i'm like how am i supposed to know when it was rolled out when i'm searching for yeah well well i well yeah you know you're not gonna know but if you go in order then that'll track that'll help track it for you i think disney plus has also put the movies in the timeline order which is different than the phase oh what the timeline order is different than the phase order

why would they do that people might say you can watch this captain america you know you can watch this early since it takes place in 1930 whenever whenever, 1940, whenever it is that the movie takes place. You can watch that first, I think. And then, you know, and then like, well, I'm not going to, y'all are watching it. But you'll see that some movies come out and you're like, oh, this actually happened before this movie that's in phase three, you know. Okay, so it's very star wars ask it's very star wars ask yes okay so they're asking me to not be interested because that's a lot of work on my behalf to like figure shit out okay we have another new segment is kissing

this now this is a new segment where we have a yes or no conversation about if a kiss is in the film and what we thought of any kissing scenes or romantic storylines now was there a kiss in this film oh there was two kisses yes first kiss did not really love she was a little aggressive in a way where i was like yikes i see myself and i will make a change, take a chance and not be that aggressive. That's so funny. I gotta say, I liked both kisses in this. I don't think I liked the first kiss the first time because I was like, Captain America don't need this.

But I liked that there was just randomly a woman out of nowhere like, if the other women aren't here. They're in the office. They don't even go into. They are in the office. They don't go away. They're just visible. Anyone can see.

She pulled him behind a bookshelf with huge gaps. And I was like, that's not privacy. And when then his crush saw and she was hurt. I didn was like that's not privacy and when then his his crush saw and she was hurt um i didn't like that but then when they kissed i liked that that's my thought i thought it was beautiful i did like the little peck and i really loved when tommy lee jones was like i ain't kissing you i like that too that was funny that was a good line yeah i laughed very hard but then think about this like really hit me so basically from her perspective he died after he said he was gonna take her dancing and

then she had to live like that for the rest of her life she had to live like that yeah like she had like captain america was her boyfriend basically and then it was over that's so fucked up yeah and i think for me after watching now that i've seen like all of the other the movies i when i first watched this it didn't the consequences of that didn't resonate with me in the same way but like watching it now knowing that he you know goes on to be alive 70 years in the future like super touching their kisses really it's so what if she was still alive and she was like 98 yeah yeah what do you do he would be like ew talk to her and just say like oh he's in like a coma leah says maybe she is me oh my i'm not gonna say so we're gonna see that

little bitch i really hope i'm not gonna say any oh my god gonna see that old bitch I'm not gonna say any words Oh my god I hope there's a sex scene With a very I hope she's played by the woman from Titanic And I hope She has the attitude of Blanche from Golden Girls And she's like let's do it Oh my god I love this

Should we get into some trivia? Yes please So according to IMDb.com, Hayley Atwell, Peggy Carter, admitted in interviews that she was very taken by Chris Evans' physique and nearly broke character in the scene where he first steps out in his new form

and ruined the take by bopping him on the chest, which made it into the film as a result. I clocked that. I was like, how wild. She was just like touching him. Yeah. And I love that that was not acting. She was like, well, dang.

Like they saved the reveal for the moment they were doing the scene together and she's like you do look good like i but i also feel like it makes sense for her to touch him because it's it's like a crazy change but that is funny i wonder what he was thinking during that moment um stanley tucci took the role of dr ersskine because the role enabled him to use a German accent which he always wanted to do oh I'm sorry I insulted it yeah do you feel bad now Lauren Stanley Tucci was living a dream and here you are shitting on that dream no I'm sorry he did a great job

and I'm really glad he got to do what he wanted is it a bad accent I can't I can never tell I don't think it was even bad it was more that I was thinking I wish it was like someone where I wasn't thinking oh they're doing an accent because i know he's not german like it would have been cool if it was an actor either i didn't know or that one that had a german accent naturally and then that was just the thing but that's just my opinion while watching i feel like i've never heard stanley tucci except for his current show on netflix but like i'd never

hear him speak in his regular accent oh my god is his like cooking show is that the or like his travel show where he eats or something I want to watch that yeah his wait what is his regular accent American you know I guess and I guess it's American I don't actually know

he does an American accent in the devil wears Prada but he often plays like a sort of debonair like he's always kind of like putting on a little bit of something. Yeah. Yeah. I love Stanley Tucci. I think he's so hot.

Okay. Skinny Steve was achieved by an LA-based CG company called Lola. They also make feminine care products. I wonder if they're the same company. And I just have to say, I'm not laughing at the concept of him being attractive. I'm laughing at how not laughing at the concept of him being attractive.

I'm laughing at how horny you just got about him being attractive. Okay, please go back to what you were saying. Stanley, don't you? It's called Lola, and it specializes in digital plastic surgery. Wow. They shot each of those scenes at least four times. Once normally,

once with Chris or with Evans gone in front of a green screen, once with everyone else in the scene, but Evans absent and once with a body double. Oh, my God. That's forever. That's a lot. For close ups, Evans fellow actor had to look at marks on his chin that represented where his eyes would be. And he had to look at marks on the top of actors heads. That's so hard. But what if they would have just cast a little dude and then cgi the muscles later

you know i'm saying it would have been totally but i truly wait so hold on let me just see this again they did it once normally once with him alone in front of a green screen once with everyone else in the scene but him not there and once with a body double now i would know would the body double be small because that's what i was picturing the whole time. A smaller actor so they could look down. It would just be all natural. It'd be easy to act that out. This is so interesting. So many ways they did it. Well, I guess it's helpful for his acting. The body double is the one that

confuses me. Me too. I mean, I think for his acting purposes, it's good that he was in the scene with everyone because he was having to react off them. But that's just, that's so confusing. And then when they're looking at his chin in the scene, that's just like goofy's just that's so confusing and then when they're looking at his chin in the scene that's just like goofy like that's so hard gotta say very impressed with the acting me too with those fucking it's hard like whenever i have to act with a c-stand like the thing that

holds the light or whatever i'm like it's hard because you have to look at this like taped x yes and then you're just trying to emote. And then the other actor is somewhere else with like a just a disembodied voice. It's that's I'm thoroughly impressed. That is really hard. And doing that for a whole movie would be really hard. Yeah. Okay.

Well, a fan on Tumblr placed a caption on a GIF from the end of the movie of a child playing with a homemade Captain America shield that said, Phil, time for dinner, indicating that the child was a young agent Phil Coulson. Fans shared the image, not realizing it had been manipulated, and it became a popular fan theory. Clark Gregg has not confirmed this retroactively. Okay. I love how the fans are like, this!

And then people are like, I guess it's true. But this one, they were like, no! Now you can have this one, Tumblr! Also, why is Clark Gregg? Now you can have this one, Tumblr. Also, why is Clark Gregg the person to talk to? Why wouldn't he confirm it? He doesn't know. Well, that's like, what's his name? Andrew Garfield, or not Garfield, the other one, the little one.

Who? He was like, I am the Spider-Man kid from, I don't know, something. I can't remember. Oh, yeah. I know what you're talking about. No, that is me. I am the kid. Oh, Tom Holland. I'm sorry. I called't know, something. I can't remember. Oh, yeah. I know what you're talking about. No, that is me. I am the kid. Oh, Tom Holland.

I'm sorry I called him the little one. Oh, my God. But he is tiny. I think most Spider-Man actors are shorter. Isn't that true? It feels kind of true. I think so. I'm still really sad we're not watching Spider-Man 3.

Yeah, I'm curious, but also I'm fine with it. Okay, now for our segment, Five Stark Industries. This is where we read newcomer's listener reviews. This is a five-star review from Van WNB. Thanks for doing something I would never do to begin with. I will absolutely never watch any one of the movies they review, especially Tyler Perry. That was the best series.

Those are the best. That's the real MCU, okay? That was the best series. Especially. Those are the best. That's the real MCU. Okay. That was the best. But these people keep me coming back. Nicole and Lauren could review off-brand cereals. I'd listen to every episode. Good idea.

Yep. Maybe that's the new podcast. Oh my God. Okay. So this season, in addition to Apple reviews of newcomers, we're also reading reviews from letterboxd um and then we're going to give the film a one sentence review ourselves

and a star rating and anyone who doesn't know what letterboxd is it's a social platform where people can write reviews of films follow our show on letterboxd it's at newcomers um so this is nate nate said central to this story is an idea that one of the worst fates you could suffer is becoming an entertainer. Wow. Oh, interesting. He was humiliated when he had to stand on stage. Yeah, he really didn't like it. This one is a three-star review from Fran Hefner, and she says, small guy gets big.

Well, Fran is insightful and intuitive. So what is a one-sent sentence review You would give the film Pretty to look at Cinemagraphic Nah that's not a word Keep that in Nice to look at Cinemagraphic

Did not like skinny little man But overall I think okay Didn't like the end. Oh, here's my actual review. Okay. The last five minutes were the best part of the movie. Yeah. And I will add to that.

I now understand the Chris Evans fandom. And I liked how it was like the 40s. Okay. I like it. Period. I'm gonna go with bobblehead redhead is he

dead James I fucking love that in our review please and quote James that's incredible I would give this movie four stars I'm leaving room to grow I think there's five stars possible

I'm giving it three based on this man's shield is stolen from my people okay out of five is it out of five right yeah oh I don't know what to do i i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with 4.5 hey that's good okay yeah see yeah and i would also just say i think

go back and watch if you watch all of these and have an affinity for the movies by the time you're done, watch it again. Because it ended up meaning more watching it. Okay. I'll stop you right there. I'll never watch this movie again. I don't think I'll be watching it again, but I wouldn't be mad if it was on in the room that I was in. I might ask someone to turn it off. I liked it.

If you like the other movies. This movie was two hours and five fucking minutes. That's what happens with all of these. And when I started it at midnight last night, boy was I upset that I had done this myself. I know, I started it late too and I was so tired and then I had to finish it this morning, but then I really enjoyed watching it this morning

when I was laying on the couch. We did the same thing. We all did the exact same thing. Why did we start at midnight? That doesn't make any sense. Why was that the time we chose to start watching? Here's why I started at midnight. I was like, I would rather do my laundry, clean my

room, do anything but watch this movie. I get it. Well, please review us on Apple Podcasts. We will pick another five-star review to read on the next episode, and you can rate us on Apple Podcasts we will pick another five star review to read on the next episode and you can rate us on Spotify as well yeah James do you have anything you want to plug

yes follow me at James third comedy third is three R D and my podcast Blackman can't jump where we are wherever you listen to podcasts I think great well thank you so much for being here and for illuminating us as to why we should love these

films it yes this is very enjoyable and it is funny because I did like the movie a little bit better after talking about it but like I really gotta stand stick with it I hated that little skinny man so we're gonna be back with the fucking Avengers oh my god it seems I'm like overwhelmed So we're going to be back with the fucking Avengers. Oh my God.

It seems, I'm like overwhelmed. Wow. Yeah. So I see he's, I'm overwhelmed at the thought of all of them playing together. Yeah. I know.

And it's like, Oh God, it's going to be so intense. Well, you get Mark Ruffalo as Hulk and he is a great. Oh good. I like him as an actor. Is this the first time we see the Hulk?

Yes. First time you see Mark Ruffalo as Hulk because Ed Norton is technically in the MCU, so it's our second time seeing Hulk. Okay. Interesting. And this is not the end game. This is just Avengers?

Oh, no. Oh, goodness. There's a lot, miles to go before the end game. Oh, my God. I just thought it was interesting that it was like Avengers Endgame. And I was like, but you're going to make more movies. So why call anything the end?

I mean. You know what? You're right. I'm excited. I'm excited to see how they interact. I enjoyed when Nick Fury came in at the end. So then I was like, oh, now he's going to meet all of them. So I am curious what's going to happen.

Ooh. I wonder if it's going to be like Charlie's Angels when Nick Fury is like, oh, now he's going to meet all of them. So I am curious what's going to happen. Ooh. I wonder if it's going to be like Charlie's Angels when Nick Fury is like, hey, Avengers, I got a mission for you. I need you guys to team up and go do something crazy. Tee hee hee. Oh, my God. Well, thanks for listening, everyone. We'll see you next week. Okay.

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