Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Goodfellas (w/ Caitlin Durante and Jamie Loftus)

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Lauren and Nicole rejoice in another Di Nero x Pesci collab with 1995’s Goodfellas! Joined by very special guests Caitlin Durante and Jamie Loftus (The Bechdel Cast), the group discusses the ins and outs of life in the mob while pausing every now and then to celebrate Joe Pesci’s range. From the Copacabana to eating ketchup and egg noodles under Witness Protection, the twists and turns of this episode are ones you won’t want to miss.Follow Caitlin: Instagram, TwitterFollow Jamie: Instagram, TwitterListen to The Bechdel Cast hereNext week tune in for our next episode covering Casino (1995)! Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut. As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. Hey, Mom, what do you think? You look like a gangster. By the time I grew up, there was 30 billion a year in cargo moving through Idlewild Airport. Believe me, we tried to steal every bit of it. What do you do?

I'm in construction. He's not Jewish. Mazel tov. Mazel tov. For most of the guys, killing's got to be accepted. Hey, Henry, here's an arm. Very funny, guys. Here's a leg.

There's a wing. What do you like, the leg or the wing? It's you. For us to live any other way was nuts. And we were treated like movie stars with muscle. We had it all just for the asking. It's going to be a good summer. It was a glorious time.

In a world that's powered by violence, on the streets where the violent have power, a new generation carries on an old tradition. Newcomers Allie and producer Anya are here. We are going to be doing 10 episodes this season, and we've picked all the essential movies of Scorsese's super long and prolific career as, you know, as told that are essential to us. We simply don't know. But of course, we can't get to everything. But today we're going to be discussing the film based on Nicholas Pileggi's book, Wise Guy, 1990s, Goodfellas. And Goodfellas is available for free on Hulu or for a fee on any major streamer.

And guess what? We're gonna spoil it. Wow. Boy, oh boy. I can't wait. We're so excited for our guests today. Caitlin Durante and Jamie Loftus are creators and co-hosts of The Bechdelcast, a comedy podcast that examines

movies through an intersectional feminist lens. Along with both being comedians and writers, Caitlin is also the host of Sludge, an American healthcare story which examines the broken and biased healthcare system in the U.S. And Jamie recently finished her work on Lolita Podcast, a feminist and survivor-focused documentary series on Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, and all of its crummy adaptations. We're so caitlin and jamie thank you for being here oh my gosh thanks for having us just the wisest guys uh in podcasting i love it okay just this is perfect to have a feminist lens of good fellas right now one of the most feminist movies i've ever seen are you too familiar with old marty scorsese pretty familiar i would say yeah i've seen most of his movies

not to brag i've seen like i think i've seen four i it's so hard because i feel like i lie about movies i've seen uh so frequently that I forget what I've actually seen. I think I've seen like four of them. I've seen The Wolf of Wall Street. I've seen The Departed. I've seen this. I saw Killers of the Flower Moon. I've seen like 20% of them.

That's a pretty good batting average here on this podcast. So what are people's general thoughts? Had you seen Goodfellas before this podcast today i've i had seen it quite a few times again not to brag but i do own it on dvd currently oh yeah and i bought it like when it was still appropriate to buy dvds and i've hung on to it all those years i feel like every time you've had a few drinks and we are like hosting at your place, you'll bring out the DVD binder. Really thrill guests with it. I mean, that really is a fun way to watch a movie.

It's so annoying to scroll forever trying to find something. And like if you have limited options in a in a folder it's like you're gonna pick something and you're gonna enjoy it and you're gonna watch it it's like you just commit this is it and the dvd menu is so such a romantic concept there's so many yeah it's like what else am i gonna do i'm gonna watch the movie i know i remember one time my friend had bootleg dvds of wonder years because they never made them at the time because of the music was copyrighted or whatever. And we got really stoned and watched that and then fell

asleep and we woke up and it was just like, whoa, what did you do? Like repeating for like hours. The menu. So good. That doesn't happen these days. It sure doesn't. And all the special features

and the director's commentaries. Bloopers. Oh my god. So much good stuff. I only saw Goodfellas once because we covered it on the Bechdel cast last year because it's a feminist masterpiece, obviously.

But I really like I mean, it's like, I i don't know this is a movie that i'm like i don't want to have to hand it to goodfellas but then i watched it i was like this movie is it's so good it is so good and i i had never seen it but i there was one part i realized i had actually walked in on my husband watching one part of it like when they're flushing the coke down the toilet so i was like what's this and like that was it sparked a memory of me not knowing what was going on which i have a lot of those i had never seen it and my god it's a perfect movie um the last like 45 minutes of it i was like i feel on edge i feel i feel anxiety and then I did some quick googling

and that's what old Marty wanted you to feel the quick cuts are on purposed so you I just the acting was the writing and then I found out that during rehearsals I did improv and then he incorporated it oh I loved it oh cool it's I't know that. It is such a good movie. It really is. Well, what's wild about Goodfellas is that he basically makes the same exact movie two decades later when he makes Wolf of Wall Street. I don't know if you're going to do that one on the show this season. We've seen that one. So we're not covering it.

But there are connections for sure. Yeah. Okay, we're going to jump into our fun little segment called Spotted, where we see if today's movie has any of the following celeb sightings. Do we get one of Marty's boys? Do we get Robert De Niro, Harvey Keitel, Joe Pesci, or Leonardo DiCaprio? Ooh, baby. We obviously get De Niro.

We obviously get Joe Pesci. I think that's it. I think that's it. And obviously get Joe Pesci. I think that's it. I think that's it. And again, Joe Pesci. Okay, wait, I have to bring this up now because we've been talking about him for episodes and episodes now. And I haven't even mentioned that I was in a commercial with Joe Pesci like 12, 13 years ago or something like that.

Yeah. And it was, I think a Super Bowl commercial or it was like with, it was a Snickers commercial where I was with him and Don Rickles and maybe we can play it on like plug it in or something later but it was really cool it was I it was one of my first jobs ever in LA and like I had to audition so many times it was like one of those things where like they just have you keep doing it over and over for a commercial where like there's not much I can even do I only have a couple lines whatever but I had to like show many different people that I could say those things which was good because on the day it was with Joe Pesci and Don Rickles and I was like totally nervous did they tell you yeah I knew that okay I don't know I don't know when I found that out I think it was

during the process that I knew that it was i don't know i don't know when i found that out i think it was during the process that i knew that it was a big celebrity thing or something but um should we watch it yeah let's watch it yeah did you find it i found it i think i found it it's it's quick but i'm gonna see if yeah okay hold on let me see if i can do this i just i have to watch it immediately, so I figured you'd be able to see it. It's great. You're going to love it. You're going to want to see it. Was he nice? He was. So he basically directed the commercial, even though he wasn't the director. I do remember him really telling people what to do.

And that was great. And I think I can say that he had on platform shoes oh I love a man in heels I love Joe Pesci he there's something about him that really gets me going I feel insane being like Joe Pesci but I just I find him to be so like sexy he He is. I get it. Yeah. He has so much charisma. So much charisma. Yeah. And then Don Rickles came in and insulted all the crew,

which everyone was like dying laughing. It was like everything. Everything they've all dreamed of. Oh, they were like roasting. He was roasting them. Do you know about Joe Pesci's music career? Oh my God, I was about to say the same thing. Caitlin Mayer's Christmas album? With Joe Pesci's music career? Oh my God, I was about to say the same thing. Caitlin, are you obsessed with Joe Pesci's album?

He has a song called Wise Guy. And the lyrics, wait, I have the lyrics up already. It's, the song starts, it's the bitches that'll get yous. It's the bitches that'll get yous. Hey, hey, paid out my ass. And it keeps going from there. And then he also has a Christmas album

now I know what I'm listening to for the rest of the day I was gonna say there you have it this is all set let me know if you can hear this okay cool so you guys grew up together? yeah since third grade what are you looking at?

I'm not looking at anything we're not good enough for you, you look for something else? what are you looking at? I'm not looking at anything. We're not good enough for you. You look for something else? No, I don't. What are you, a big supermodel? No, I don't. Use us. Supermodels.

What are you, model gloves? What are you doing? The girl's totally into me. Brad, eat a Snickers. Why? Because you get a little angry when you're hungry. Better? Better.

So, ladies. So, losers. Stacey, relax. I'm sorry. You're not new when you're hungry stacy relax really gets me but everything joe pesci says gets me oh i know it's so funny i honestly i'm having this moment with him where i'm like and and i'm sure there are many people are going to roll their eyes at this but i know know Nicole understand what I'm saying. I know him from Home Alone. Okay. And to watch him in these roles, it makes it so funny that he committed to doing Home Alone and like anything kid related. It's

like, it makes that role so much funnier knowing all of this history and watching him be like this super hardcore, like killing people and swearing so much and everything and it's like it's just it's it's so funny to me and same with that commercial i'm like oh the commercial is funnier now that i know even more backstory 10 12 years later but yeah so home alone and goodfellas came out the same year so goodfellas came out in september insane to me that is wild. Truly showing off the range. Truly. I mean, in one year.

Yeah, you took those jobs back to back. I'm obsessed. Yeah, they came out two months apart. That's fucking nuts. That's so awesome. I love it. That is crazy. Because in my mind, that Goodfellas feels much older.

Yes. And because, of course, it takes place over so many decades, I kind of like put it back further in my mind but i'm like no it's right there like when we were little kids it came out that's so crazy um okay as part of spotted we also were looking for marty's mom catherine scorsese she is in it she has one of the funniest parts do you want to see my painting like i she's so funny. She's so cute. She's so charming. She's great. And then Marty himself.

Do we see Marty himself in the movie? I don't think so. I don't think we do. Yeah, I don't think we do. But his mom is so hilarious as Joe Pesci's mom. She's great. It's my favorite scene. Like, they kill a guy, and then she insists that they sit down for dinner.

And he's like, I just need he's like i just need a knife i just need a knife also there's a clock in that scene where the clock says three o'clock and it's nighttime so i think they're eating at like 3 a.m either that or they just didn't care that much about like the production design i think it was the middle of the night she wakes up and she's like oh i never see him we have to have a meal like yeah and she knows that he's like in the mob and she's proud of him so she's like yeah come in at 3 a.m of course I have food for you I love it I feel like she tells her friends like my son works nights and just like doesn't get more specific okay we're gonna take a quick break and when we we get back, we will jump into Goodfellas. a service that protects your internet connection and online privacy. A VPN creates an encrypted tunnel for your data, protect your online identity by hiding your IP address,

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N-O-R-D-V-P-N dot com slash newcomers. It's risk free with Nord's 30 day money back guarantee. Link is in the episode description. Ooh, baby, we're back. Goodfellas was released September 19th, 1990. It was written by Nicholas Pellegiri. Nope. Pellegiri.

Pellegi. Pellegi. And my escasez. Before we get into this, I just want to say, Lorraine Bracco in this is amazing. A tort of fucking force. She is incredible. I know.

Oh my God. I love it. And then also I love how this happened. This is like based on real life. And then it also mimics John Gotti. But same thing happened to him. I think it's Sammy. The bull gave him up.

It's mob shit is so interesting i don't how do you know that i know is wild right in that wild yeah i was pretending to know yeah he brought down the gadi family and gadi also ordered a hit on the boss of that family to become the boss and then also they i think it's like boss, like they all have names when they become made. I know this because I loved Mob Wives. I loved it. And Sammy the Bull's daughter, Karen, is on it. And it's great.

It's great. That's amazing. Oh, my God. I feel like I'm not really familiar with the mob stuff. Like I started watching Sopranos, and I really want to watch the whole thing, but I just, I didn't get completely sucked in immediately.

But then I recognized Lorraine Bronco from that as the therapist, right? Oh, she's in it? Okay. Then I, people keep telling me to watch the Sopranos because I do, I really love mob shit. It's.

Yeah. Really. It's really good. I just like, I, you know, I'm all over the place with what I watch, obviously. I watched the first season twice and I'm like someday someday i'll bust through to season two

but it just like has not happened yet yeah it's hard wait nicole have you seen the movie gaudy no i have not is it good john travolta plays gaudy right it is famously so so bad like madame webb's style bad i love john's style bad. I love John Travolta. I do love John Travolta. But also, like, making a bad movie about Gotti is rude. He's the Teflon Don. Nothing stuck to him. Batman did so many, like, I say incredible things,

but, like, he was a bad criminal who murdered. A murderer, people. But, like, it's interesting. He got results he did he got he he achieved his goal and we gotta respect that that's the american dream it sure is okay let's jump into this plot and talk about our thoughts as we go but um henry hill who's ray liotta jimmy conway robert de niiro, and Tommy DeVito, Joe Pesci, are in a car late at night. Henry's driving while the other two men sleep.

And when they pull over to check where a strange thumping noise is coming from, they find that the dead body that they were hiding in the trunk is actually very much alive and banging to get out. Henry opens the trunk and Tommy repeatedly stabs the man, which was gnarly, before shooting him to ensure he's dead. Henry narrates, as far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. I loved this scene. It truly sets the tone for the rest of the movie. Joe Pesci is so violent.

He's a little ball of violence, and I love it. It's so scary, but it is hot when he's being scary. Yes. I know. I understand the Karen line in the context of Joe Pesci only. The other guys, I don't get it. When she's like, when Karen's husband kicks the ass of the other guy, and then she's like, I couldn't help it.

I was turned on. Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. It's weird. It's weird. That opening scene made me i was like if i was in the back of a trunk i don't know i feel like i would maybe stay still yeah i don't know i just feel like there what did what did that future corpse expect to happen yeah yeah but maybe the second they open the thing he's's just going to be killed officially.

But maybe he got scared. Maybe he's like, oh my God, it's so dark. I passed out. Where am I? Hello? Yeah, maybe he just didn't know what had happened. He knows where he is. He knows that other wise guys threw him in a trunk.

So what he should have done. The last guy I saw was Joe Pesci. He should have played dead until they dragged him out of the trunk. And then he could have gotten up and ran away. And that's how he that's what I would have done. Kitten's a mop member. Okay. I would have stayed very still

and like waited for the sweet embrace of death. I would have let them bury me and then I would have run after I caught them. Ooh, that's good. Crawl out of your grave. Kill Bill style. I have seen Kill Bill kill bill okay give me that one oh i've seen kill bill too i think kill bill one and kill bill two are the only uh what's his name quentin tarantino what's his name this is the best podcast

so we go back in time to the 1950s and see young Henry Hill, Christopher Cerrone, idolizing then slowly becoming involved in the Lucchese family. I don't know how to say that. A gang run by his predominantly Italian blue collar neighborhood in East Brooklyn, New York. He quits school and becomes a protege of crime boss Paul Cicero, Paul Cerv servino the dad from uh romeo and juliet who i there we go uh and his wingman jimmy conway this was so cute i really enjoyed watching the story i loved i love the narration as a choice over this and flashing back to his childhood where you see how

he gets into this whole situation and it's so it's it's just like a cute story also the music is that crushes the whole movie it's so i love this soundtrack so much it's so fun and um and like the 50s music is which is so like peppy kind of like fueling this moment where he's like getting into all sorts of trouble it's really cool it's like there's like a bajillion movies that have tried to do that same thing with like the same, but it feels like lazy when some directors do it, but that way he knows what he's doing. Yeah.

And I love Ray Liotta. Ray Liotta is boy, oh boy, charismatic without trying. I was like in love with him at times and i just like felt for it i yeah the movie's so well done he's so natural also the kid they cast to be his younger self looks so much like him they did such a good child acting i was actually wondering about that i was like did that kid ever work again or was it just because he looked exactly like ray leota as a kid that

he was like put into this thing they just found him they're like we just need someone who looks like ray leota i just learned about the whole like uh i don't know i feel like i've seen the same discussion on twitter a hundred times of like actors used to have fucked up teeth and now they did but like ray leota's teeth are busted in this movie and I appreciated it. The worse his life gets, the more busted his teeth get. I was like, I feel seen.

And I do, I do think that like, that's something that I appreciate in actors when they don't just fix every single thing about themselves. Like it's, it's so nice. Annette Bening was somebody who I think of like where she just like, she just ages so beautifully and like beautifully and is just a real person.

And it feels so authentic when you watch her. Yeah. It just does a lot for characters. So Henry's partnered with fellow youngster Tommy DeVito and they sell bootleg cigarettes that Jimmy gives them. One afternoon they're busted by detectives and Henry is arrested. And when Henry goes to court and keeps silent, he's celebrated by the gangsters and welcome into the lucesi family i loved it i loved that like it's like not implied that he needs to stay silent but he just does it naturally and then they're like yes you're one of us you didn't rat anybody out uh yeah i just i love it and then to be a kid being like oh my god all these adults

are like i didn't tell the truth to the cops and i like that i feel like it really establishes like that it's kind of like a game to him when he's a kid too because you're like oh yeah he just like beat that level of lying in court yeah i'm I'm just thinking right now, I have to assume this movie doesn't pass the Bechdel test. No. I forget. I don't remember.

We did cover it a year ago, but I don't know what we said. Probably, if it does, not often. Yeah, I mean, there's like women talking about men. But they're talking about

their sons and their husbands. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So the Henry-Ty partnership endures into adulthood and both men become more and more entrenched in the gangster lifestyle tommy regularly exhibits his violent short temper to the amusement of henry and the other gangsters for money they steal regularly from the local airport as well as take over bankrupt and burn

down a local bar this scene where joe pesci is like what do you mean i'm funny am i a clown to you do you think i'm a clown what am i a clown what do you mean by that what do you mean by funny oh i was dying it's amazing and it was like of course that's an iconic line that i've heard so much i've never known the context for it's so good and then you're like is he even fucking with him or he actually, I feel like he's going to kill them. Like I actually was like, he just decided to just be kidding at one point,

like far into it. And I read that that was improvised because Joe Pesci had said, you're funny to like a gangster. And that's kind of how he responded to him when he was like waiting tables. I don't know how true that is, but I read that somewhere on the internet and i was like oh i love that i love when people bring something from their life and they're like oh this works perfectly in this character oh yeah i know he feels so authentically like a gangster though but it's like i feel like it's true like i just feel like it's true. Like, I just feel like that's his background. Yeah. But he just has that.

He plays it so well. And it plays super into him being shorter than everybody else. So it's like, of course you are overcompensating. And you're like, why am I funny to you? Like, so aggressive because you're, you know, trying to seem bigger than you are. Oh, I loved it. Yeah. Yeah. He's such a fragile little man i could fix him i really think i could yeah i'm here for this love story that's going to play out

over the course of 10 episodes and then end with you marrying jo Oh my God. On our live stream. Our live stream. I do. So Henry meets Karen Hill, Lorraine Bracco, a Jewish girl on a double date with Tommy. And after a failed second date, they try again by spending a night out at the Copacabana nightclub. Real quick. Sometime later. Yeah. The steady cam shot of them going in the back.

Through the restaurant. I looked it up. I love that. They couldn't film through the restaurant i looked it up it's because they couldn't they couldn't film through the front so that happened by accident so they went through the side entrance and they did it in eight takes which is crazy to me because it's such a long winding shot and then uh ray leota like bumps into something and that like is so natural and great um and I think what song is playing it's like and then he he kissed me it's yeah oh god it is it's just like it was so fucking juicy and yummy but it made it so much better that they go in the back because it's like

they're getting the special treatment and they get a they bring out a table and put a tablecloth down and put a candle on it and like they just sit in front of all the tables that are already there. And somehow there's an outlet. Yeah. For the little lamp, yeah. Yeah, no wonder Karen is so horny for him after that. I know.

And she's like, what do you do? And he's like, I work in construction. She's like, you just gave everybody a 20. I don't understand. It's just so cute. But like i don't understand it's just so cute but it's yeah it's very it would totally whisk you off your feet um so she calls henry and tears a bit later having been sexually accosted by the son of her parents neighbor and henry immediately finds the young man and beats which was so insane because she they we see this guy

meet see her at the club that they're at, having a drink during the day or whatever. And he seems like a really sweet, like, nerd who's like her neighbor. And then he accosts her and she has this whole horrible experience with him. I feel like it's a comment on, like, gangsters treat her bad and a seemingly nice guy is going to treat her bad. So it's like, where is a good guy? Yeah. I mean, like, where do you find them? Where are the good fellas?

It's true because when you see that guy at the, you know wherever they are country club you get the feeling of like oh she could have this normal life if she was just with him and she's with this guy who has this dark secret she doesn't even really know at this time and then turns out that guy sucks too so he goes henry goes and finds the young man and beats him with a revol daylight yeah it's he kicks his ass oh and then he runs across the street with the gun or walks across and tells karen to hide the gun which is covered in blood doesn't even seem to really blink an eye she was like i am wet yes i will do anything you ask me to do which which I get. And she literally has a voiceover where she says it actually turned her on.

And they get married shortly thereafter, despite her parents' disapproval. And after the wedding, she slowly learns more and more about Henry's criminal enterprises, but she comes to rationalize the gangster lifestyle. And Henry also begins an affair with a woman named Janice Rossi, Gina Mastrogecomo, and rents her an apartment. The affairs are such a bummer because they're so involved. Like, they're like, they have full second lives. Like, it makes me so sad. I mean, it wouldn't be better, I guess, if he was just sleeping with anyone.

But, like, it's just so depressing that his wife doesn't know there's this like whole apartment that's like furnished by him and all this stuff and everywhere you know when he goes out he's with her it's just such a bummer that's my whole with affairs i just i don't know i'm just like it's so much work it's like a job like why i don't understand like i i don't know i like, even morality aside, I'm like, who has the energy to keep that shit up? I like I could even if I wanted to, I'd be like, it's not worth it. Yeah, I think you can see that he doesn't value either of them that much. He did make it easy on himself because he was like, Friday nights, those are for the girlfriends. And I was like, ah, yes, a set day of the week.

So you don't get confused. You never have double bookings yeah also i love at the wedding people are just handing them bundles and bundles of cash and she's like oh no that sack of cash and he's like everyone fucking has money here don't worry about it and she's like oh yeah no one's gonna steal that here i thought that was such a chart like a cute scene where all those envelopes coming to her and she's kind of like oh my god i can't believe how much money we're getting right now this is like and like she's starting to piece things i mean how much does she know at that point i i don't know i feel like that's part of the puzzle coming together but yeah that perspective should i like the first time i watched it like last year i i was so i think because we covered the godfather

and goodfellas the same month just to like uh hurt ourselves and um like i did not see that like perspective shift to her coming because there's just like no interest in mob wives in mob movies and you're just like oh this movie is gonna actually give a shit about karen that's so yeah yeah uh so in 1970 billy batts frank vincent a made man in the gambino crime family recently released from prison demeans tommy at a nightclub owned by henry tommy and jimmy kill billy but realized too late that the unsanctioned murder of a made man will invite retribution jimmy henry and tommy bury the body in upstate new york uh i love this because i i like mob shit so it was like yeah you killed a made man which means just a dude who is like actually in the mob like really like part of it not just on the streets but like a part of like

planning and shit and it's like once you kill one of those people, now it's open season. Like anybody can kill you. Anybody from that family can kill you. Your own family can kill you. And I was like, this is so, and it happens pretty early in the movie. So I was like, so there's a target on their back

for the rest of this movie. So that, and the fact that they do what they do later, I'm like, that's so ballsy. I know, it feels so stressful. and like henry you can tell i felt like he didn't really want to do all that like it was too much for him but he just keeps going because there's no option but like that stressed me out so much the idea that like you're kind of like i don't really want to be sparing a body here like and everyone else is like just go with it like what the fuck's your problem i don't know i also love that like during that scene where they're burying the body or maybe

they're because they have to dig it back up a little later and they're like clowning on each other so hard because henry hill is like barfing all over the place from like the stench due to the corpse smell due to the corpse like to the rotting flesh and then Joe Pesci's like oh ha ha what's the matter you want an arm

you want a leg you want a wing and he's just just guy stuff I know you always wonder what boys do

when we're not around he should have been a stand-up comic in another life i think yeah so yeah this is exactly this next scene six months later jimmy learns the barrel set is slated for development which they means they have to go exhume and relocate the decomposing corpse and henry later witnesses tommy murder spider michael michael imperioli an errand boy oh oh it's michael imperioli from white lotus oh my god he was so young an errand boy oh oh it's michael imperioli from white lotus oh my god he was so young

an errand boy after exchanging insults them during a card game that would wait that blew my mind just now um he's like famously from the sopranos so it's incredible he's famously that's so perfect for this show um it's like, I'm a white lotus. But that scene was so depressing to me. So he comes over with drinks. He's serving the guys during a card game. And then Joe Pesci's like, just like, of course, I still want a fucking drink. You think I don't want a drink?

Where's my drink? What are you doing? And he's like, you said you didn't want one. And he's like stuttering and stuff. And then he basically shoots him in the foot. Well, first he's he's like dance for me which is a thing i've seen in other things uh yeah and then yeah shoots him right in the fucking foot and then they continue the card game i i know i was like was that a different day or was it the same day that he just gets a bandage on it and just keeps going i think that's a different day okay so it's a different

day and then he's like oh okay your bandage looks stupid basically you're such a dork it's like your foot looks too big now and then he shoots him and kills him because the guy tells him to fuck like the young teen tells him to fuck off and he he just kills him and then they're all like what the fuck are you doing you know what it's kind of like a second beat of am i a clown to you do am i why am i funny to you yeah he's like fuck you and then jimmy's just like oh you're gonna let him talk to you like that riling him up for him to have the opportunity to be like yeah yeah whatever i guess i shot him already but instead he fucking kills him and jimmy's like I was kidding. What are you doing? And he's like, wow, wow, wow. You're mad about it?

You mad I shot him? And then they're like cleaning it up. And he's like, I didn't want to get your floor bloody. Sorry. Like his priorities are completely all over. They're real fucked up. I love how Joe Pesci just like delivers the word what? Where he's just like, what?

Like any time after, he fucking kills he fucking kills oh it's so yeah they're just getting loosey-goosey with it at this point yeah that's like i don't know i don't i think this is i haven't seen a lot of mob movies but like it's the only mob movie where it it feels like aware that the guys like only sort of know what they're doing and they're like not very good at it yeah they would have maybe lived longer yeah yeah well i do think them killing a made man emboldened them because they didn't get caught and nobody came after them quick and i think they were like oh we're literally untouchable when it's like no no you're you're actually not yeah uh so karen discovers janice and threatens henry at gunpoint this is so oh my god that scene was amazing ray liotta is an

incredible actor because you in that like when you're just focused on his face you really feel like he's like oh fuck i don't know how i'm gonna get out of this i don't know if i'm gonna get out of this yeah because she's standing over him in bed and like he basically wakes up to god in his face and so you kind of think she could just do it right then uh-huh and you you just wonder and then you know they wrestle and he's like how dare you do you fucking like a gun in your face and i was like damn um no scary scary it's like, how dare you? Do you fucking like a gun in your face? And I was like, damn. No, scary, scary. It's like, if you're going to do that, you got to just shoot that guy. You got to just shoot your friend.

He's going to come get you. It's so scary. More women should kill their husbands. Yay. So Henry then moves in with Janet. What's her name? Janice. Janice.

But Polly insists that they should return that he should return to karen after collecting a debt from a gambler in tampa with jimmy jimmy and henry find the man who owes them money and dangle him over a lion cage at a zoo upon returning jimmy and henry are arrested uh after being turned in by the gambler sister an fbi typist where they receive a 10-year prison sentence. And this is such a crazy moment when they're in the jail. It felt like cute. They're sharing a room.

It looks like kind of an apartment. They're sharing a studio apartment, basically. To me, I think it's really fun because the mob is so connected everywhere. So it's like they've already prepaid to have a nice stay in prison. Right. Like they get to be separated. At first I was kind of like, oh, are they separated because they'll like they'll know they'll kill people or something?

I know it's because they just like have all these connections and they're just a little special. So prison life is initially depicted as idyllic with henry sharing a very large cell with polly and several other well-connected mobsters they cook italian gourmet dinners with smuggled in ingredients and the prison guards are bribed into compliance to finance his prison life and support his family on the outside henry has karen smuggling food and drugs which he sells in cooperation with a fellow inmate from Pittsburgh and a bribed member of the prison staff.

Karen discovers that Henry's mistress has been visiting him from the sign-in sheet. Wild. And she almost publicly exposes the smuggled goods as revenge. But Henry placates her by promising that he'll be faithful from now on and that his drug deals will make them enough money to support the family without anyone finding out. He's reliable.

Let's give him another shot. Let's see how he does. Oh, God. Poor Karen. I'm just like, I know she has to, like, pretend to believe him in order to survive. But it's like. It's so sad. It's always sad in these movies when they're yelling with these kids next to them, too.

Well, I think it's. I'm like, what do they tell the'm like what do they tell the kids what do they tell the kids and i think it's really interesting that he does put kids in these horrific situations because it's like yeah these kids they're in real life had to live through this shit and these adults are just running around being awful also did we talk about when karen goes to janice's house with the kids oh yeah talk about when karen goes to janice's house with the kids oh yeah i know and she's like threatening her on the intercom doorbell or whatever oh so good i i liked i i don't know like yeah i like that the movie doesn't also just like make janice out to be like an evil bimbo character too like you could tell that she's scared she also doesn't know how to get out of this situation she

knows that henry's basically evil and not doing great and i don't know i just i it's so nice to see mob movies be like yeah these women are in a bad situation and she does say i think when the gun is in his face he's like are you crazy she's like you make me crazy and it's like a nice thing to be like she knows that he is the reason why she feels this way but she can't get out yeah i just she's such a like a full three-dimensional character that i didn't expect to see in this movie yeah totally uh so four years later in 1978 henry is paroled and secretly expands his cocaine business with jimmy and tommy against paulie's orders jimmy organizes a crew to raid the lufthansa vault at the john f kennedy international airport stealing over six million dollars in cash and jewelry

after some members purchase inexpensive or expensive items against jimmy's orders and the getaway truck is found by the police. He has most of the crew except Tommy and Henry murdered. I loved that car. The pink convertible or whatever it was. I was like, you know, it was reckless but there's only so many cars

like that out there. And that montage, right? It's like Barbie's car. That montage where they're like bodies are being uncovered like either they're in like dump trucks garbage trucks things like that it's just oh so good and i forget what song's playing over that montage too but you're just like oh yeah because now i think we're in the 70s with the music it's like it kind of takes a turn from the 50s pretty quickly or i guess they did some 60s stuff too but it's like it kind of takes a turn from the 50s pretty quickly or i guess they

did some 60s stuff too but it jumps to that sort of like like rock and roll and it's really fun and yeah like the the body hanging in like the frozen like butcher that's so good i was sad to see him go i was i liked him he's uh he's in the wedding singer that's what i recognize him from um also samuel jackson's in this movie yes he is yeah he's the guy who gets shot he's uh the guy in his underwear in the apartment you're gonna have to be more specific he's the guy who gets shot in goodfellas. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There, I was done. Yeah, and then he's like, get that coffee to go. And then he's like, what are you doing? That scene is so funny.

It is so funny. I got to watch that part again because I didn't see his face well enough, I feel like. That's so cool for that to be him. So Tommy's later deceived by the mafia leadership into believing he is to become a made man.

This part made me so sad. Yeah. And is murdered as retribution for murdering bats and other infractions against the organization. Jimmy grieves for Tommy, knowing he's incapable of avenging him. This was so sad.

So they're all getting so pumped because he's about to be a made man, which means they have someone on the inside. And Nicole, I'm sure you know more about this, but it basically kind of sets them all up for like safety. Yeah, because Jimmy and Henry aren't fully italian it's explained in the movie they can't be made so it's like having someone on their little team who is made means that they can influence paulie to do some things that they want to do yeah and then

so he gets so it's joe pesci gets taken into this like room he thinks he's going into like i don't know have some a ceremony dinner like yeah and then he sees the room which is like really odd and he immediately goes oh no and it's like a real scary oh no and then they shoot him and then he's dead and the fucked up thing is they shoot him in the face so his mother can't have an open casket so it's like not only are we killing you we're gonna make your mother suffer yeah well also how bitchy is it the the other mob guys who are like going to be like making him a made man lead him to believe that he's being made only to kill him what like also right then it's like oh no you're gonna be made and it's like just we're killing you yeah it's so bitchy i love it yeah and henry henry says later something about

like the person who kills you is gonna have a smile on on their face so you don't know it's coming and i was like fuck that is so that's scary that's, yeah, you just live like that. Oh, my God. Another perfect Joe Pesci line read. The, oh, no. I know. You're like, oh, it's horrible. I know. You could feel the fear. You really could.

And then De Niro's just incredible. Like, as a man who is so sad, but also is like, I'm a man. And, like, cries, knocks over a telephone booth, cries again. And then Henry, like, tries to to hug him but is also like i don't really understand love yeah male displays of affection i don't know uh the film shifts to a momentous day in henry's. Sunday, the 11th of May, 1980. All the messy threads of Henry's life all collide. Henry has a large cocaine shipment that needs to go out, a family meal to make and host,

a mistress to calm down, all while high on cocaine and being followed by a surveillance helicopter. Backing out of the driveway at the end of the night, Henry is arrested and brought in for questioning. This is the chunk of the film where I was like on edge. Yes.

It's so, so, so good. So much happens in this movie. Like there it's so insane how much stuff happens and it feels really short. And it's sort of like all the stakes are equal. Like mixing the pasta sauce is as important as like, you know, running from the helicopter and like going over to the mistress's place. Who, who is, um,

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is an eight ball a ball? I didn't think it was a ball. And then I Google eight ball of cocaine. And then the first thing that pops up is, if you need help, call this number. I was like, I was like Googling how to get one.

Google was like, oh no, Lauren's falling on hard time. The strike really affected her. But is an eight ball literally a ball of cocaine? No, all the pictures that I found were not balls. So I was like, what were those? What were the balls?

I don't know what they were. I was so curious. Maybe that's how it originated. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I just. I was so curious. Maybe that's how it originated. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I just know it as an eighth of cocaine. More drugs should come in sphere form.

Yeah. Make it fun. Make it fun. That's why acid is fun. Because you get a little cartoon on it. This is fun. I like my I think I forget when she first comes in but one of my favorite characters i always i like forgot she existed but the babysitter lois i feel like that's

as close as i come to feeling seen within this movie where like yeah i i'm not a carrot i wish i was i know i'm not i feel like i'm the babysitter with a lucky hat. Yeah, yeah. She's perfect. I'm off my hat. I know, but then I was like, I thought she was going to get away with it because she didn't have the drugs all strapped to her like she was about to. But she called from the house. Yeah. I also love, we don't forget about Karen. Karen's down dirty with him. She fucked up. They look terrible running around going shopping being like there's

a helicopter like they are not okay they look so fucked up and she flushes the coke down the toilet well he doesn't know which is a really great moment and yeah like the panic where she's like just like shaking the bag and like trying to like get rid of it and then so after bailing him out karen reveals that she flushed sixty,000 worth of coke down the toilet to prevent FBI agents from finding it during the raid of their home, leaving them penniless. He's so upset and he wants to kill her. And Polly reproaches Henry for dealing drugs behind his back and severs the relationship with $3,200. Karen goes to Jimmy for help, but eventually flees upon suspecting he might he is setting up a trap to murder her. This part was so intense. Yeah. He's like,'s like come on just keep going she goes and he gives

her some money and he's being super nice and he's like hey do you want some dresses that i got like some like dior or something like they're down there's a couple doors down and she's like okay and she's like getting suspicious and she's walking down the street and then she sees this like really weird storefront where these guys are like doing stuff. She's like, clearly I'm about to be killed in there. And she runs away. And it's like, it's so, it's so stressful. I also was like, he's just watching her leave. Like, I guess he has no option there, but it just, it was probably like, damn, that didn't work.

I was like, Jimmy, you know, she's not stupid. Yeah, come on. But I also kind of love that it's open-ended you're yeah like is he trying to kill her is he scaring her to i think right i think maybe he wasn't trying to kill her because the last thing he wants is her to go to henry and be like i think they're gonna kill you yeah right right right but she doesn't really explain it when she sees her no she doesn't fully say she just says you him. She doesn't fully say, she just says you got scared. It's because she didn't say that she went to go see Jimmy.

So it's funny because everyone in this movie is like doing underhanded things or like not telling anybody shit to get themselves more in trouble. Yes. Well, so much of the like theme is like, are you a rat? Are you going to be a rat? Are you going to rat out your friends? And so maybe she's just like, I'm you a rat are you gonna be a rat are you gonna rat out your friends and so maybe she's just like i'm not a rat i'm not gonna rat out jimmy for maybe about to kill be about to kill me but also it's like maybe she was just super paranoid from on account of all the

cocaine balls she was right exactly like maybe nothing was really happening there and they're actually were dressed in there i guess we don't know really know. Yeah, Jimmy's like, damn, she would have looked great in those. Why'd she run away? I was just trying to give her a little gift. So Henry later meets Jimmy at a diner and he's asked to travel on a hit assignment, but the novelty of such a request makes Henry suspicious.

That definitely felt like, oh, he's trying to send you over there to kill you too. So thankfully he doesn't, thankfully, I don't know why I care. He doesn't do it but those moments where you they're turning on each other and it's all like shifting are really really fun yeah i fucking love and i love that karen is like but you don't need me to go on witness protection and the guy who is playing the guy at witness protection is actually the guy who put henry the real life henry

in witness protection he plays himself in the movie whoa he seemed so real to me because he is a regular guy yeah and he improvised the line what are you a babe in the woods uh that's the line that he came up with i truly was googling until 2 a.m because i loved this movie so fucking much um but i yeah i love karen is like not ready to give up the life she became accustomed to this thing and she's like you don't need me you don't need my kids i can't see my family and it's like bitch you're gonna die um yeah it's so weird that it feels like till the end for both of them there's still like an element of like the lifestyle that is a game to them, even when their lives are completely busted and they're like on the verge of

death. They're like, well, no, that's, we could still do whatever we want. Right. Yeah.

So they moved, they get put in witness protection and they just end up, the movie ends with him having this like really boring life in the suburbs where he orders, he orders spaghetti and gets like, he's like, I got egg noodles with ketchup yeah and it's like it's a very funny detail at the end of just like his life being

like now this is what i'm doing i'm over here getting my paper my normal lawn and that's it and uh i mean yeah he stays in witness protection i think until 1987 and then he is arrested for trafficking narcotics. And then I believe he and Karen got divorced right after that. Yeah. Good for her. Who was it who ended up, there was something in the, in the,

where they were explaining where everyone ends up. Someone's in jail until like 2004. Yeah. That was Jimmy, I think. And he was released when he was like 78. And then Pauly died of, uh,

I think lung, something lung, something I think. And he was released when he was like 78. And then Pauly died of, I think, lung something in jail. Yeah. Boy, oh boy. It's so fun because it's a, and we haven't even said it's a true story, but it is. Yeah, I'm seeing like Henry Hill lived until 2012. Wow, that's so crazy. It's crazy to have a movie like this be made about you and to still just be like out there doing your shit like when it's like this is like not a good look you also got paid a lot of money uh for the movie i think it was 480 000 in 1990 is like that's a lot of money

crime pays baby still pay should we become mobsters and then sell our life rights yeah I think we're doing this wrong yeah do some crime write a book about it and the reason why

Marty wanted to do this is because he said that the book was the most honest depiction of mob life because it was a lot of like day-to-day stuff and I was like

oh that's that's interesting yeah yeah I'm like I'm seeing okay wait this is just from Wikipediaikipedia so who knows if

it's true but it's saying that uh henry hill and ray liotta did a photo shoot together in 2006 and ray liotta was like henry you have to go like you have to be sober you have to go to aa and henry hill was like okay and then he did it. Whoa. Wow. I know. That's insane. That's beautiful. It is beautiful. We got that murderer to stop drinking. That's very sweet. Well, this movie grossed $6.3 million

from 1,070 theaters and opening weekend, which topped the box office. And Joe Pesci won the Oscar for best supporting actor. And the speech, I did look this up. I was like, it's so cute. We have to watch the speech. It's a very sweet moment.

I love it here. Let's see if I can share now. I'll try sharing my screen. Okay, cool. The Oscar goes to Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. in good ballet. Yeah! It was my privilege.

Thank you. Oh my God, I want to cry every oscar speech should be that short yeah it's the shortest speech ever and it's really just i love it i know i love him wow he's he's perfect everyone all right let's jump into some trivia from this nicole's sobbing he's just so humble and wonderful i know it's a really cute speech now everyone gets up there and says something for like 20 minutes and names every agent they've ever had and you're like we don't we don't care we don't know these people move it along no i like they started doing a thing on the emmys where they would just put the agents or they put

the name of all the people they want to thank on the screen, but then you could talk and not say it, which I was like, that's good. We don't need to hear a list of names. I want to hear one motivational thing or a thoughtful thing. I don't know. Some emotional moment. I want to hear like, war is bad. Tell me about war.

Because I only know that from when celebrities do that so that's always really helpful to me i forget i forget here's a little trivia for you so according to nicholas palegi some mobsters were hired as extras to lend authenticity to scenes the mobsters gave warner brothers fake social security numbers and no one knows how they received their paycheck. That is so fucking funny. That rocks. It's so good. Honestly, probably through a teamster who then went to accounting and was like, cash.

While directing his mother, Catherine Scorsese, he didn't tell her that the character's son had just killed somebody and the body was in the trunk of his car he only told her that her son was home for dinner and to cook for them oh that is so cute so i wonder if there were even lines was that all because it was very like loose and conversational feeling i wonder if that was just all improv yeah i want to know who's responsible for there's one dog face who won't away there's one dog face in the other way i'm like i feel like that yeah that feels like joe pesci improv yeah she's like what do you care which way they look like she says what face a one face of west what's the big deal um robert de niro wanted to use real money for the scene where jimmy hands out money because he didn't like the way fake money felt in his hands the prop master gave de niro five thousand dollars of his own money at the end of each take no one was allowed to leave the set until all the money money was returned and counted but it is so much better when it's real i

fake money and tv feels fake and it is it's and but the i always thought there was like a legal reason but i guess it is probably more about theft people stuff. People stealing shit, yeah. Yeah. Like the prop master's like, don't let De Niro rob me. Yeah. Count the money. You know, he's not really this character, right? He's got $5,000 for sure. Time for another break. We're back, and we've got the new Academy Awards.

So Scorsese, he's been nominated a hundred times. He's only won one, which seems crazy. So now we're presenting the first annual New Academy Awards. All right. Best food scene. And the nominees are Polly's Backyard Sausage Barbecue Party, the Bamboo Room Banquet Table where all the gangsters have a dinner together,

the collaborative prison sauce making scene where Polly slices garlic with a razor. Oh, yeah. That was very sweet. I loved it. That's what I'm voting for. I love this big mobster, like thinly slicing garlic.

I like that too. I feel like that was, that was a kind of iconic moment when he's just using a razor to make the garlic soup. He's like, it melts right away in the pan. It's a close race for me. I love a sausage party.

It feels very inherent to this movie. But yeah, I'll go with prison garlic too. Caitlin, thoughts? Oh yeah, no, that was mine. Although I would like to say honorary mention to henry hill's brother stirring the sauce in that like chaotic sequence where all the stuff's happening that is yes that's true i love control over so many things uh wait in the scene where he picks up his brother from the hospital i love that the doctor's like you're sweaty fidgety seem anxious here's valium i know you're like was fidgety, seem anxious. Here's Valium. I know.

You're like, was that what the 80s were like? I guess so. Is that what happened? And the new Academy Award goes to Polly slicing garlic with a teeny little razor. Congratulations. Allie, you want to do this one? Sure. So this is best line delivery.

And the nominees are as far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. Henry. So good narration. Next is I'm funny. How? I mean, funny. Like I'm a clown. I amuse you.

I make you laugh. I'm here to fucking amuse you. What do you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny? Tommy DeVito to Henry Hill at the Copacabana. And then last one is I know there are women like my best friends who would have gotten out of there the minute their boyfriend gave them a gun to hide. But I didn't. I got to admit the truth. It turned me on. I didn't. I got to admit the truth. It turned me on. Kieran Hill after Henry

beats up a guy for her. That's such a good one. I mean, I have to vote for Funny How. Just perfect. And the New Academy Award goes to Joe Pesci for Funny How. So good. See, I feel like his work saying oh no is

underrated, but as long as he takes the win, I'll take it. The oh, no was perfect. Let's jump into best soundtrack song. So the nominees are Rags to Riches by Tony Bennett from the opening scene. Then He Kissed Me by the Crystals from the Copacabana scene. Gimme Shelter, that's the one that we were trying to remember. Rolling Stones, What Can I Promise?

Says Pauly, he won't get involved with drugs. shelter that's the one that we were trying to remember rolling stones what kind of promises paulie he won't get involved with drugs um and it's also a scorsese favorite that we're going to see in the future apparently we have a little note here or um my way by sid vicious from the sex pistols covering the frank sinatra hit in the final scene my ways that final scene is really great but i loved then he kissed me it like the music made me fall in love with them as a couple and it really made me buy that cameron was like into this uh yeah then he kissed me and it came like during that amazing that i don't know i feel like it goes so perfect with that perfect shot that goes on for 45 minutes and I could watch that

shot continue until they were in fucking like Arizona so cool Caitlin what was your favorite oh I'm gonna go with the opening song when oh yeah like open the trunk and all that kind of stuff

that was yes i mean i thought yeah gimme shelter was a great turn that moment when that just like suddenly it's like now it's the 70s everyone's dead everyone's like i love that but i i'm voting for then he kissed me too because also i feel like nicole that one really stood out to you that you even named it earlier like it was a that song felt so important um but yeah it, do we have a tie or are we on? I think it's, and then he kissed me. We did it.

Congrats to that song. It's now time for score. Susie, it's time for reviews. We are going to be reading reviews from letterboxd and then we will each give the film a one-sentence review ourselves and a star rating. And for anyone who doesn't know,

Letterboxd is a social platform where people can write reviews of films, and we are on there at Newcomers. If you want to see all of our reviews, you can just go do that. This first review comes from Brendan O'Hare, five stars. Love when young Henry Hill talks about why he wanted to be a gangster, and the first thing he mentions is that they got to park in front of fire hydrants without getting in trouble that is very very funny it is true okay so everyone is going to give a one sentence review and how many stars you would like to give

uh okay i'll go first i'm gonna give it 10 stars which is double the amount you're allowed i loved it i loved how fast paced it was i love how it made me feel anxious i loved i love that karen was just a show she was a showcase i love joe pesci this is my favorite movie maybe yeah what a terrible review I just gave I thought it was really good it was perfect anybody else Sonia, Ali, Caitlin, Jamie I'm trying to think of something I'm ready

I've got five stars the absolute blueprint it's beautiful I logged this on Letterboxd before we came in today. And I gave it five stars. And my review was, I'd say they were rather bad sunglasses emojis. Bad fellas. More like bad fellas.

I'm going to give it five stars as well. I think, you know, the, oh God, how do I even begin? Great storytelling, great music, great acting. A perfect film. I'm sad I haven't seen it sooner. Mm-hmm. I also read somewhere, because I can't stop with the trivia, that the end when the scenes are like, choppier and choppier,

that, like, test audiences didn't like it, so the woman who edited it went back and made them shorter. Oh, wow. Just to fuck with them. That's so cool. To be, like, to make it more intense. More choppy, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I want to learn more about his editor, because I know that they work together, like, almost exclusively exclusively and Thelma shoe. Yes. We, we've talked about her. She's like amazing.

Yeah. It's God. It's so, and she was nominated for an Oscar too. I feel like you never hear about like women, uh, as like lead editors and they've worked together for so long. It's so cool.

Do you think she would do our podcast? She's 84. Do you think she can hop on Zoom? We can have the show. Always worth a shot. I just gotta say I also feel like there's a iconic I feel like in film class in college I was shown that the diner

scene. I don't know if we talked about that moment where like it's a dolly Zoom so it's like they're zooming in and you can see in the window everything's like it just feels crazy because I think that's like zooming out but the camera's moving closer and it's like this like whirlwind effect so that's like a very yes like a iconic I think Hitchcock used it first obviously it's like been used before, but that's the shot that people talk about along with the Copacabana scene. Oh, that's cool. Oh, wait.

We didn't get everyone's review, did we? Sorry. I see. I still have to go. We still need Allie and Caitlin. Okay. I'll give it five stars, and my one-sentence review is

this movie makes me hungry and makes me want to eat a ball of cocaine. I'm also going to give it five stars and I'm going to say great movie. Great book. We'll watch it any day. No questions asked. Yes. You've read the book.

It's so good. Wow. Maybe I'll get it. Okay. So impressive. Someone has read a book. All right. I'll get it. Okay. It's so impressive when someone has read a book. All right. All right.

I'll read a book. Ooh, Thelma was born in Africa. I'm learning over here. You think you're better than me? Yeah, you're over here Googling Thelma. I love Thelma. Thelma, do our podcast. I'm truly so excited that we all loved this so much.

That's just delightful and we thank you so much Caitlin and Jamie for being on the show thanks for having us do you guys have anything you want to plug I mean you can plug our podcast the Bechtel cast

and we're going on tour in Europe in May so people should come to those shows. Mostly cities in the UK and maybe Dublin. We're still trying to confirm it. Amazing. Okay. Fun.

That's really fun. Yeah, we have new episodes come out every Thursday on iHeartRadio. Great. And I'm sure people would want to check out the Goodfellas episode to hear the full Bechdel analysis. Which is on our Patreon. So it is behind a paywall, but it's only $5 a month. Go pony up. Well, thank you to our listeners. Please go review our show as well on Apple Podcasts and rate the podcast on Spotify. Five stars only. We're going to be back next week with Casino.

It came out in 1995. I don't know. I don't know anything about it. I know it probably takes place in a casino. Okay, that's maybe the one thing I was going to guess. That's all I know. Please enjoy Sharon Stone in Casino. Oh!

Okay, is this like an iconic thing that we definitely are aware of but don't know that we're not, you know what I mean? I saw it last year

and she just like blew my mind. She's so good. I'm great. I ride for her forever. I can't wait to watch it. Yeah. All right,

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