Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Iron Man (w/ Preeti Chhibber)

Episode Date: March 8, 2022

Nicole and Lauren are back to cover the Marvel Cinematic Universe (although, the Madea Cinematic Universe will always be their true MCU). Marvel expert, writer, speaker, and friend of the pod Preeti Chhibber joins them for the movie that kicked it all off: Iron Man (2008). Next week's movie: Iron Man 2 (2010) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Mr. Stark, you've been called the Da Vinci of our time. What do you say to that? Absolutely ridiculous. I don't paint. What do you say to your other nickname, the Merchant of Death? That's not bad. They say the best weapon is one you never have to fire. I prefer the weapon you only need to fire once. That's how Dad did it.

That's how America does it. And it's worked out pretty well so far. To peace. Is it cool if I take a picture with you? Yes, it's very cool. I don't want to see this on your MySpace page. Please, no gang signs. No, throw it up, I'm kidding.

You have till tomorrow... to assemble my missile. I should be dead already. Unless it was for a reason. I just finally know what I have to do. That doesn't look like a missile. What are you building, Stark? I'm working on something big. Thank you. oh boy oh god it's a new fucking season of newcomers

oh my god we're back i mean we're Look, I think everyone should be thrilled right now because we're doing what you want us to do. You guys have been saying for, I guess, years at this point that we should cover the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And we are going to do it. Have you seen any of these movies before? Okay. I have seen Black Panther. I have seen Ant-Man. And then I saw the new Spider-Man,

but that's like a Sony movie or something. But I guess it's part of the Marvel, the MCU or whatever. I've seen Black Panther. I've seen Captain Marvel. I kind of think that's it. By the way, I'm Lauren Lapkus.

This is Nicole Byer. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. You should know. You know by now. I just have to say, i i'm i'm actually not too scared of this um this franchise because there is some like humor there's some i don't know i was kind of surprised by how i felt about this movie that we watched last night boy oh boy um

i couldn't disagree with you more um i really did not like it i found it to be humorless joyless oh no the humor isn't good in this movie i should say i will but i enjoyed it i are we gonna do the spider-mans i don't but like i'm really oh yeah we are okay i'm only interested in spider-man 3 because there's a lot of dancing. I don't I've only seen clips. Tobey Maguire has this weird emo fucking My Chemical Romance haircut and he is snapping and dancing and moving and grooving. And two people on our Zoom right now are going, no, no, no, no, no.

I don't know what that means. I couldn't even begin to tell you what no no um i don't know what that means i couldn't even begin to tell you what it means i don't know um i i do want to see what you're talking about i i don't i don't even know who's in what like i feel like i'm not i have never paid attention to this so like either i'm like is andrew garfield a spider-man he and i recently started liking him because i watched him in tick tick boom whichick, Boom, which I thought was really good. He's very good in it. And he's really charming. And then I saw him in a couple interviews because I looked him up a little bit and I was like, oh, I kind of like him.

So then I'm like, are we going to watch him? I like him. Well, there's three sets. There's nine Spider-Man movies. That's too many. And then there's three sets of them. It's insane. We have to say, like, we negotiated to do fewer movies because there are 27.

There's too many. So our Marvel expert, Leah, narrowed it down to 20. Yes. And I did see the new Spider-Man. And let me tell you, I had questions. Which one's that? This is the newest one with Zendaya or Zendaya. I'm not sure how you actually say her name. And Zendaya and that little man that she's dating.

I don't believe they're really together. I think they are. No, I don't think so. They bought a house together. I don't believe you. Tom Holland. I don't believe Tom Holland. I don't believe there's something about that. I don't i don't know i mean i'm sure they're together i just i look at the pictures and the way that they interact and i think it's fake right like some some relationships are fake and celebrity some of them are fake but for whatever reason i like really believe in it

okay people love them together so whatever i guess i'm the problem um okay so this is our fifth season i guess so is that true wait okay so we did fucking star wars lord of the magical hike uh what was after that medea lord of the rings then tyler perry this is fourth season yeah this is the fourth. No, because Gabrus and I did Fast and the Furious. Oh, I wasn't there, so I consider it bad to be real. So this is yours. It didn't happen. You weren't there. That wasn't really a thing. No, I was out having

a baby, and it looked like you guys had a lot of fun, though, and I did participate in one episode, so that was fun. Yeah, in every episode we said you were busy with something. Because I couldn't remember if you had posted about your baby oh yeah so i was like i'm not the i'm not i'm not gonna fucking out your child this news oh my god okay well so this first episode we we're gonna discuss the first mcu film which is iron man it came out in 2008. And it began phase one? There's phases of the franchise?

I don't know what that means. What the fuck? I don't know what that means. Iron Man is available with a subscription to Disney+, which I was thrilled about because I was like, oh, all these movies are in my subscription. With Tyler Perry, I was like paying $3 every two days. Oh, I paid for all of Tyler Perry. Tyler Perry bought a new house with the money I gave him.

But here's the thing. What? How is Marvel? Why is Marvel in Disney Plus? I don't understand that. Well, they like bought it all, right? Disney bought Marvel and the Lucas Brothers. No, the Lucas Films. Yeah.

Lucas Brothers. Lucas Brothers. Those are nice people who I love dearly. Lucas fucking films. So they bought. Wait, Disney shouldn't be able to buy all that uh i think it's insane that they have they have everything now that's like literally everything they have all the fucking nerd shit well because they did wandavision which i have

always been curious about yet did not turn on at any point yeah well john millhiser was watching it and i sat for one episode. It was not the first or the second and I had questions and oh boy, my friend was angry. He did not want to answer

a single question. Mike was really adamant that I not be on my phone during the movie last night and kept taking it away from me. And I was like, you're not cool or fun.

It's okay for me to look at my phone but it's really not because i i miss so much and oh by the way if you don't have disney plus you can get this movie for a fee on amazon apple tv and google play and voodoo obviously we're gonna spoil it yeah if i can talk about this movie uh okay what's your what's a what's a quick thought on your experience watching this film my quick quick thought is that, well, here's something really dumb I said. I said, I was like, I always forget that superheroes were regular people who got a special thing that happened to them. And Mike was like, that's literally what superheroes are. And then I was like, yeah, becauseark kent is like well no he's

from he's an alien and i was like i can't do this i can't do this wait oh yeah clark kent he's from the planet he like fell from the fucking sky i don't know and then these people they got a sky baby and then they were like let's raise it like that's crazy i would return to send her like try to ship that shit back throw it back up get a big old slingshot get rid of it oh my god no yeah but i kind of forgot that the it's that's the origin of superheroes is that they're like a regular person who like stumbles into something and then they have a superpower and it made me a little more excited because i was like oh he's just a regular guy who's doing his thing and then this happened to him and so i was I kind of liked that part of it. I love Robert Downey Jr. So I'm a big fan.

I like him, but gotta say this facial hair really. Not good. I thought it was an act of violence. I was like, what on earth? So there was like a line above his mustache that was shaved. He looked like a pervert. He did look like a pervert. And I guess my initial thoughts were just like the fuck what why he's got goop inside his chest that he made that woman

scoop and then sick that was supposed to be funny by the way oh that was supposed to be funny i asked mike if that was supposed to be funny and he said yeah oh i thought they were trying to make it like sexy no because he's like do it like operation she's like what's operation then she like pulled it out and he's like oh no now you pulled it okay just don't put it it was like just kind of supposed to be kind of funny i think well okay what were your initial thoughts you hated this i hated it so much um i really i was just like okay so he's trapped in a fucking cave building a suit and everyone's like watch he dare away you know he's not doing war propaganda sort of like it was like yeah there was something kind of weird about that to me um and yeah the guy i was confused i

mean we could definitely get into all this when we go through the entire plot, which we're going to do. But there was a point where the guy's watching him on the camera while he's actively not building the fucking thing. And they don't stop him. They don't. And that was like really, really aggravating for me. I was like, so you're terrorists. I think that's what you're supposed to be. How come you're not terrorizing him to build exactly what you want him to build you it's like he was just going hmm he's building a costume does he think halloween

happens here he's in captivity no halloween no trick or treat it is oh god okay we need to get we need to bring our guests in here because we actually have somebody who's going to know more about this than we do. We're so excited for our guest. She's been on almost every season of this show at this point. Yeah. Everything except for Fast and the Furious. Yes. Preeti Chipper.

Yay! Yay! Let me give you her credits a little bit. Preeti is a young adult author who's written for Syfy, Polygon, and the Nerds of Color, among other publications. And she also co-hosts the podcast Desi Geek Girls and Tar Valon or Bust. Did I say that right? You did.

Okay. In 2002, the first book in her original Spider-Man trilogy, Spider-Man's Social Dilemma, will be out in July. And the latest installment of her Avengers Assembly series, Exchange Students 101, releases in September. And you can find her Marvel Comics debut

in Women of Marvel No. 1 out in March. Oh my god, you have so many cool things. Yeah, this is really fucking cool. I was almost just like, I'm proud of you! But I'm just so excited to know you, and I feel like since we first met you have really done

so much! What a treat! And why do I feel like you had a book that came really done so much what a treat and why do i feel like you had a book that came out with every theme of our podcast like you were like star wars that is funny yeah i'm just following the track of newcomers and being like what can i publish next you're like this is what's in the zeitgeist okay so you are you seem deep as hell into fucking marvel yeah what's your first experience with marvel and uh it seems like you're very familiar so like what's your first experience with it i mean i grew up with comics i like grew up with like the x-men game and like reading my older brother's comics and that kind of stuff it was i had to like bite my tongue so hard when you're talking about spider-man i was like oh my god you're not gonna watch the to like bite my tongue so hard when you're talking about Spider-Man. I was like, oh my God, you're not going to watch the Tobey movies.

I'm so sorry. We're not watching them? Why? Those aren't MCU. They're not MCU technically. So I don't get what that means. Yeah. What does that mean?

Help us. Iron Man started in 2008. That movie came out. I think I saw it like three times in the theater. Why? Because I loved it. I want to know more about that. I love that you loved it. I loved it so much. Wow. And it

launched this whole thing. So there are like teases in this movie to other things. So like the post-credit sequence. There was a post-credit sequence? There was a post-credit sequence. Oh, I did watch that. Nicole, we got a note and maybe we have to make sure that you saw this. There's a note that after each movie they put like a scene. Ah, shit. Way past the credits. It's like a fucking hour of credits and they're like, and maybe we have to make sure that you saw this. There's a note that after each movie, they put like a scene.

Ah, shit. Way past the credits. It's like a fucking hour of credits, and they're like, and here's a little thing. Don't forget to stay and sit in your seat. You have to sit there. If you go to the movies, you have to sit there for like 20 minutes and read every person who's involved, which maybe is a good thing. It forces you to acknowledge everybody's work. Yeah, yeah. That's nice,'s nice i guess it is nice and kind

it was it's definitely an act of goodness uh-huh wait so spider-man is spider-man is marvel but it's not part of the m. So like long, long history wise, like Marvel at some point sold the rights to a lot of their bigger characters like Spider-Man or whomever. And so they didn't have the rights to make a Spider-Man movie, which is why the first movie is about a character that nobody cared about. Like Iron Man, nobody cared about Iron Man when this movie came out because they still had the rights and this was their Marvel Studios launch. Oh. Wow. And so the Spider-Man movies are all

under Sony. Oh. Is that why X-Men is Fox? Yes. Although now Disney owns Fox too so they also own X-Men. Oh my God. Are they going to redo X-Men? Maybe. Huh. It's all super complicated but basically that's why sony and disney like brokered a deal for the tom holland spider-man movies and that's

why those are in the mcu and the toby and andrew garfield movies are technically not whoa what okay so then i won't watch them because i have no reason to but i gotta see why you gotta watch spider-man 3 man oh my god i am curious now but i'm sure there's a youtube clip you could watch i've seen so many youtube i've seen three where he like dances in this like bar in front of uh fucking kirsten dunst and then he like snaps into a place and then gets a suit okay i need to see that he was just it was that was the zeitgeist it was emo yeah it was so emo and like jazzy i was like what is this i think that's something that i'm kind of intrigued about with these movies because we we're coming from star wars and Lord of the Rings. And obviously I didn't watch all of Fast and Furious,

but they're in a different era. And now these movies are now, or present day of whenever they're being filmed. So that's kind of interesting already, I will say. I don't know. Because I feel like the nerd stuff of Lord of the Rings and Star Wars, it starts to take over so much, and there's no touchstones of like

texting or something you know where's the flip phone yeah there was no texting in Lord of the Rings Gollum wasn't like I have a call so I didn't know how to relate it would have been so much easier yeah they could have just flown

to wherever they were going but whatever yeah truly just get on a plane so we have a new news segment yeah we need to pick a name so we got the thor report loki lockdown loki lockdown loki lowdown maybe you should just read it that was bad just read it it's bad that was bad looky lockdown i like that isn't it loki i don't know like the looky lockdown who's loki cap chat which i don't i guess captain marvel ant-man buzz or the daily bugle now the daily bugle that's from what spider-man okay so which one speaks to you the most pretty because i feel like you actually know about these things. Well, I'm probably like the biggest Spider-Man fan on the planet.

So I'm going to say Daily Bugle because I'm a huge Spider-Man dork. Okay, I like that one too. Okay, me too. I'm going to go with that. Because that's a newspaper and that's news. Makes sense. We got it. We did it.

Oh, I did. Okay, wait, Preeti. Is Spider-Man into the megaverse or universe or whatever into the spider-verse sure oh the cartoon one is that is that canon is that part of the mcu but it's so good i've heard that one's really good but But it's Sony. Oh. I really liked that one. It's so good. And they're doing a sequel? Mm-hmm. And I saw some of it, or like a clip of it.

It doesn't, I don't know. Everyone's seen the clip. It's like on the internet. It's not like, Nicole got an exclusive. No, that'd be insane. They'd be like, this woman who doesn't care, do you want to see it? No, I just saw this clip that they posted on YouTube, and I was like, I don't know. It doesn't look as fun as the first one.

Is the second one going be mcu no why also sony sony has their whole thing i feel it's just it's like boring legal rights issues right it's like sony's like we own these we're gonna keep making these movies so we'll never not own these so like for our next season we could do the Sony universe. There's a lot of Sony universe stuff coming out. All the movies. Who's that? And movies that that's Venom or the Tom Hardy movies. And they're great. They're terrible,

but they're great. But in a different way from the MCU. Interesting. Oh, wait, he's okay. So I did see the last Spider-Man movie. And then there was a scene where he was like having a margarita or whatever but like was fucking weird as hell

that's venom that's venom god too much you actually know a lot about this nicole i spent a long i just saw the movie no i'm saying nicole knows more than i do somehow she's got a lot of info. Well, wait. Okay, let's do our Daily Bugle. Okay, now for our first news segment of this season, we're going to give a recap of what's been going on lately in the MCU. As of February 1st, Spider-Man No Way Home, the latest installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe,

has grossed over $735 million in the United States and Canada. It is nearing in on Avatar, which is currently the third highest grossing film of all time. Holy shit! What are the other two? I'm curious. Backstage revealed that Loki season two will start filming in summer

2022. I don't feel familiar with that information. The trailer for Moon Knight? Who's that dropped it'll be the first oh i like you i do like oscar isaac he was in that movie um what was it called uh fucking mochaccino uh it was about a robot uh mocha latte oh oh oh oh uh uh creme fresh uh i have no clue it's like a drink oh uh maki that's not a drink okay that needs to be the fucking clip that we promote this episode i was so lost i just watched him in scenes from a marriage, which was... Oh, was that good?

It was interesting. It was kind of fucked up and dramatic. I liked it. Okay. Well, Moon Knight will be the first series on Disney Plus to center a Marvel character not previously introduced, what, in the MCU? The show stars Oscar Isaac,

our old friend Hottiee dum-bum-bum from star wars oh yeah he was in star wars yeah oh yeah uh the social media chatter surrounding the trailer had to do with oscar isaac's campy english accent oh we need to hear that so wait he's not what he's not introduced but he's part of the MC. Oh, so he's new. Yes. Oh, I can't believe how hard that was for me to understand. I was like, so they didn't introduce him? Why not? That's rude.

I was like, oh, because he's fucking a new character. But I feel like they have a lot of characters. Don't they have properties that they haven't like made into movies yeah and i think they're slowly trying to do all of them oh okay here's the trailer for moon knight hello and welcome to staying awake i have a sleeping disorder I have a sleeping disorder. I can't tell the difference between my waking life and dreams.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Ooh, I love this song. Oh, no, he song. Me too. No, he's sleeping on people. You'll catch you all. You're bloody useless.

Steven. Steven. I can't tell the difference between life and dreams. Ooh, I'm scared. Thank you. Lost the contact lens. Thank you. Lost the contact lens. Hope you find it.

Thanks. Oh, that Marvel humor. It gets you, right? Hold the phone. Hold the phone. Now hold the phone. A razor? I miss mine. Is this a period piece?

What's wrong with you, Mark? Why did you call me Mark? That must be very difficult. What? The voice in your head. Shut up! There's chaos in you. Oh!

Oh! Oh, no! Embrace the chaos. Oh, no. What the hell? Okay. Moon Knight! Okay, I think that looks good. I think it looks really it looks really good do people think it doesn't

look good no i feel like everyone's excited oh great i thought it looked great i think it looks like a lot of fun i thought the accent was you know a choice it's a fun choice it's strong but it's like what are you supposed to do yeah it like makes me want to be a superhero. Why can't they make a superhero movie with just a fat black lady who's like, Okay, time to fight the crime. They should. Sounds good. Let me do it.

Let me fight the crime. Why do I feel like within a year you will be doing that? Let me fight the crime. From your lips to Marvel's ears. Can I be your sidekick? I'm like, hi. Just like two ladies who are not paying attention to anything.

I do like the first moment of every season. We're like, okay, we have to be in this franchise every time. We're like, what is this? Okay. We want to star.

Okay. Yes. Let's, let's do it. We're in it. Thank you. this is okay. I that and i think i might watch it ethan hawke with long stringy hair being like embrace the chaos i was like that's kind of

hot i think he's super hot i think so too i think they're both very hot people yeah um and i think maybe that's what's missing from some Marvel stuff. More hotties? I was going to say Rodney Dangerfield. What is his name? Robert Downey Jr. That is the one thing I was thinking was missing from the MCU. Yeah.

Where's Rodney Dangerfield? Because he's hot. Robert Downey Jr. is hot. I mean, look, I think he was kind of being 2008 hot in this a little bit. Like, it's not what we want to see right now. There were some points where his hair, I thought he had pure highlights. I was like, what's he doing? Like, who is this guy?

His style was just really weird. But he's still one of, I think he's like such a good actor. Like, he elevates everything so much that like the scenes were kind of whatever. But I was like, he makes it everything so much that like the scenes were kind of whatever but i was like he makes it feel so real he did at times make it real and grounded but also there was times where i was like this is loony as hell like the close-up shots of him in the helmet he's like that's the funniest shit i was laughing so hard at some of the technology like when he was like making he was like drawing his new wrist guard or whatever and he's like hmm and then he put some of it in the trash he like

dragged it to the trash can and then he put his arm in he was like i was like i was cracking up i said no a lot i kept going no thank you oh it's the hard thing when you're doing like cgi stuff because and like green screen stuff because it always looks bad like 10 years later. You know, I mean, there's no way for it to stay cool. Right. Right. But at the time, I remember being in the theater and being like, this is the coolest shit I've ever seen in my life. I was like, I what?

Who would have thought of that? And then it like mapped for like 25 years what movies are going to look like. Well, that's. Oh, yeah, I guess it did. All right. years what movies are going to look like. Well, that's good. Oh, yeah, I guess it did. All right. Well, I think we can take a break because we're going to jump into the whole plot of this. We're going to get into it piece by piece.

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It's written by Mark Fergus, Hawk Ostby, Art Markham, and Matt Holloway. Where did Hawk Ostby and Art Markham come from? What fun names! I know, they're really fun. They're like poets or something. Yes! It was directed by Jon Favreau. Yeah, a lot of people wrote it.

And I bet you more than that wrote it as well. It was released on May 2nd, 2008. We've got Robert Downey Jr. We've got Terrence Howard. We've got Jeff Bridges, Gwyneth Paltrow, who I love. Gwyneth Paltrow. I did like her in this. I usually find her to be a little soft.

Yeah. But I liked it. Also, Jeff Bridges. Ooh, he had a little meat on his bones. He had no hair. Come on, Obadiah. Obadiah. Obadiah obadiah

i when they said his name i was like this man's name is obadiah i know that was really funny um okay so here's the plot okay okay let's get into it. Oh my goodness. Billionaire playboy genius Tony Stark, Robert Downey Jr. inherited Stark Industries, a defense contracting company from his father, Howard. He travels to Afghanistan to demonstrate their latest technology, a Jericho missile, along with Lieutenant Colonel James Rhodes, who's Terrence Howard. They are ambushed and imprisoned after the demonstration by a group called the Ten Rings, a fellow captive and Dr. Jensen, played by Sean Tube, implants an electromagnet into Stark's chest to prevent shrapnel pieces from reaching his heart. Pause. Da fuck? Like, what? Like, okay.

And by the way, we're jumping in so hard. So, like, the first minute you see tony stark in a um army vehicle military vehicle he's like riding through being like he's drinking a drink in a glass he's like fucking chilling okay even though they're in a war zone actively uh-huh he's taking a selfie with the guy in the back seat with him and then he's flirting with the fucking woman in the front seat yep and she calls herself an airman he's like well you don't say and i was like what is going on he's like your bone structure honey or whatever i was like okay but also i was like why is he with them i could not for the life of me figure out what was going on. And then a truck exploded in front of them.

And he's like, what now? And they're like, get down. And then he turns out he wakes up in this like dungeon or whatever he was with. Yeah. With a hole in his heart or a hole in his chest. And then a stranger was like, tee hee hee, I put put some lights in you now you have a circle in your heart and i gotta say he really took it well if i woke up in a fucking cave and someone said t hee hee you got a ring light in you i would be like what he's literally like why is this like this and then

the guy is like it's an electromagnet preventing shrapnel from reaching your heart and he's like okay they were like listen audience just say yes to the science we just have to get to the point like they're like we gotta just get put this thing in his heart and then he can be doing all the stuff he's gotta do is this

true to the comics Preeti is that I this is the thing right it's like iron man was such a character like he is not i don't love iron man he's not my favorite i do i didn't read the comics because i was like you seem like an asshole and i don't think i like you because he's like a he's like a jerk to everyone he's like a misogynist. Like it's a bad vibes going. And so, yeah, I think mostly. Okay. Weird though. In the beginning, was I supposed to think he was a douche?

Cause I sort of was like, he's having fun and he's flirting. And like, it's actually what I thought. I was like, disgusting. I thought he was like, charismatically like bad at flirting. And like, just like, I'm having a good time. Are you having a good time? And I'm like, I don't know. You know what it is, though?

It's like, I think it's Robert Downey Jr.'s power in that moment because it's like, he's so charming that I'm like, he could basically say anything to me and I'd be interested. But if it was somebody who was a little skeezier, it might have worked to get that point across more if he's supposed to be a bad person. But he doesn't seem like it. They talk about the casting, right? They talk about how good the MCU is at casting and that like Robert Downey Jr. like built that by being Robert Downey Jr. on screen.

Yeah. Yeah. Because he brings so much to it. I mean, truly. So, OK, so he's got this thing. And then later the 10 rings commander Raza played by Farhan Tahir offers him freedom in exchange for him building a Jericho missile. So basically they're like, you have to go into this cave for an undetermined amount of time until you make a missile for us that your company would normally make. But because Robert Downey Jr. is a genius, he knows how to make all these things by hand. Jr. is a genius. He knows how to make all these things by hand. But it's like, why have him make it by hand if you could just get it from the company like you've been getting? Right. And later in the movie, they show that they just received a shipment. Yeah. It's all very confusing. Okay. So to aid in their escape, Yizhen helped Stark build a small generator called an arc reactor meant to power

the electromagnet as well as a suit of armor which is crazy like if i was locked in a cave with someone and they're like all right we got to build this missile and then he's like actually suit i'm gonna make a big old metal suit you want to help i'd be like no i don't want to die right like it's crazy so the ten rings discover the operation and it's like discover they're watching them on a closed circuit television. There's nothing to discover. They just watch them do it. And they allowed him to do it. What I also don't get is how.

OK, so there's a point where the guys are coming to attack Jensen and Tony. And then there's like bombs on the door and I'm like wouldn't they have seen them put the bombs on the door in the camera? I think there was a lot of head turning a lot of the henchmen being like eh we don't really like our boss we'll just tell them

better later. Yeah. But eventually the ten rings discover the operation and attack them Jensen sacrifices himself to allow Stark to escape in the suit this was sad he was like yeah I'm good but eventually the ten rings discover the operation and attack them yizin sacrifices himself to allow stark to escape in the suit this was sad he was like yeah i'm good my family's dead too so like you know you're pretty charismatic you better get back to wherever you came from yeah he was like you're not actually enough for me to want to stay alive like hanging out with you isn't gonna do it i want to see my family who are all dead. And then he's like he literally runs out with

a gun and starts shooting chaotically to distract Not even chaotically. He just was like tap tap. That's true. And then they're like at them. He's shooting to the side. Uh huh. He's a scientist.

Yeah. He's not an army man. He's a scientist yeah he's not an army man he's a scientist so Stark fights through the cave and finds he isn't dying he destroys the group's weapons in a rage and escapes but destroys his suit when he crashes into the desert

oh well there's also a point where so the reason why Jensen runs out is that the computer is like downloading something for like iron man suit to work and like it won't work until this green bar is filled on the computer from 2000 more time the dial-up isn't working listen service in the caves in the mountains i know it's amazing it's amazing i love how Tony Stark was like he's like function 11 hit tell me when it's ready I won or whatever I'm like and then he just does it and it's like downloading or whatever and it's it is pretty anticlimactic that it's like oh we're just gonna download

something that's kind of downloading an app for the suit Yeah. That's what happened. So Rhodes rescues him. Who's Rhodes? Rhodes is Terrence Howard. Oh, yeah. Okay. And they return home where Stark announces that his company will no longer manufacture weapons. How did they find him? He's just walking in the desert having a bad time.

And then a helicopter is like, there's a person. It's literally what happens. They just go like and he's right there this was after he made he was literally in a gigantic iron suit that he built he flew through the sky he landed i thought dead on some sand pretty hard i mean seemed like it would hurt and then he's fine they don't pick up the suit. They don't. They just left it in the fucking sand. I know.

And is that because he's being secretive about his identity at this point? I don't know. So he wants to develop arc reactor technology. A larger version of the generator in his chest powers his office building. I didn't get that. His father's... I missed that. His father's...

Wait, what? And I'll tell you, my eyes didn't get that. His father's... I missed that. His father's... Wait, what? And I'll tell you, my eyes don't leave the screen. Wait, a larger version of the generator in his chest powers his office building already? So how did Yinsen know that when he made a mini version for his chest? Yeah, how... Yinsen's like, this is like what you have, but small. This is where I don't remember this like suspension of disbelief when i was watching it back in the day like i don't remember because i had the same thought i was like how did they

like what is where did this come from yeah but yin sun i thought was like this is a magnet to stop the shrapnel and then tony was like i'm gonna turn it into an arc reactor oh okay so that happened later so okay his father's old business partner obadiah stain jeff bridges warns him that the initiative will ruin stark industries and his father's legacy which is like almost immediately there was no question in my mind obadiah is bad to the bone baby if there's one thing i could tell, it was that he wasn't good and he didn't have good intentions. No, he is a bad man. Sexy, but bad.

So Stark ignores the warnings and builds a more powerful version of the armor suit in his home workshop. He updates the arc reactor in his chest and his personal assistant, Pepper Pats, Gwyneth Paltrow, places the original reactor inside a display case. Isn't that cute?

And that's after he was like, get rid of it. And I'm like, Pepper, bad assistant. He said get rid of it. But anyway, yeah, Stane requests details about his experiments. But Stark opts to keep everything discreet. Now, Pepper, she showed up earlier and we see that she is kind of his right hand man. She like knows everything about his operation. He's kind of his right hand man she like knows everything about his operation he's kind of in love with her the trash yeah which is leslie bibb yeah

from popular fame i know you've ever seen uh ryan murphy's first foray into television yeah so leslie bibb was a journalist who like hooked up with Stark in the first scene. And I thought, we'll never see her again. And then, of course, she did. No, no. She comes back, baby. And then in the meantime, Gwyneth Paltrow is doing everything she can for him. And he is flirtatious with her. It seems like they're into each other.

In a weird way. Because he's like, nice dress. And she's like, you bought it. And he's like, I got she's like you bought it and he's like I got good taste and then they almost kiss and then they're like we need booze I know I can't I couldn't tell if she's annoyed by that or she likes the

dynamic. Preeti do they get together? Don't tell us. No no you told me not to tell you. She's already telling us. Well we're gonna watch Iron Man 2 tonight. Ugh, Nicole! Oh boy, I've never been angrier in my life. I know.

Our first recording, we had to reschedule and Lauren texted me. She's like, we're not recording. And I truly did a dance. I spun my dog around. I said, I don't have to watch Iron Man. I was literally going like this. I don't have to watch that.

I don't have to watch that. Cut to a week later. I'm like, okay, I have to watch it now. I have to watch it. I want to be on every episode of this podcast. You should. I mean, we enjoy it. I know.

You should be okay at us okay what happens next is that at a stark industry's charity event reporter christine everhart leslie bibb tells stark that his company's weapons were delivered to the ten rings and that and have been used to attack jensen's village and she had three pictures yeah three blown up pictures that she got made at a fucking two hour photo. That's right. It was like, what on the phone? Why didn't she print them out? But also, why is he expected? Now, he's the head of a company.

Like, do you think Jeff Bezos knows where every Amazon shipment went? Absolutely. Absolutely. When he went to the moon, he was looking over documents knowing that I got a curling iron delivered today. And he was like, to the moon! Nicole looking over documents knowing that i got a curling iron delivered today and he was like to the moon and paul has her fucking hot iron no like people like the heads of companies don't know anything about the ins and outs of their company so she was trying to like bring him down like you didn't know that your company sent these these horrible weapons over to the wrong people or whatever and it's like he's like how am i supposed to know but okay he then puts on his new armor suit and flies to save the villagers but before

that we get to see a bunch of like trial and error that's the funny part and then was it i was like what is his best friend this fucking robot that is like a bad dog i know his friend is like a claw from one of those machines where you get stuffed animals and he like comes over and he's like not today or whatever like i don't know what their vibe is he's like don't put fire extinguisher on me 80s robot humor to you like it felt like 80s robot to me it is i was just like this man is sad and when he like flies through the ceiling and like hits his head like he like flipped back into the ceiling his head went straight into cement i was like he's dead yes he passed away several times in this movie just flipping really hard into walls falling on his car so they're

like the they're basically showing that the suit is so strong like he goes like let's just do it at one percent and then he still shoots up into the air and so it's like okay that's one percent i don't want to see a hundred so on his way home also what he flies over the cars and i was like there's like jet fuel coming out of his fucking feet his cars would be up in filet he has the largest property i've ever seen and why is he practicing in his garage truly you have so much space dude You're limited in your basement. There's no reason for this. And all your fancy cars are going to get damaged. Anyways, on his way home, he's attacked by two F-22 Raptors.

He tells Rhodes that the bogey is actually him over the phone to end the attack. Now, I can't follow that sentence for the life of me. So, yeah, okay, the military is like, we got a bogeyy and i guess a bogey is like a flying thing that you don't know about and then one of the guys is like the bogey is a man and he looks so crazy so he's like flying around there's like the bad guys have those villagers and they're taking them by the throat they're like gonna kill these little kids it's like so terrifying and actually there was a point where i was like why is the world like this why do we harm each other and then i mean kind of and then i i know because it's like why did bad things

happen i don't understand why people do bad things but that's a whole nother story then the iron man comes in and he he basically goes like beep beep beep and he uses his like computer brain and he basically goes like beep beep beep beep and he uses his computer brain and he goes like bad guy bad guy bad guy and he just eliminates them and they just drop the villagers because they drop dead and then the villagers are like oh my god and there's like one little boy who has like the shoulder of a sweater as a hat

did you notice that? Lauren! I was like how is it staying on? And that's so funny. He's like, he runs to his dad. There's true stakes. The stakes are high. But I gotta say, everyone reacted to this fucking gigantic red and gold metal man murdering people in front of them.

Everyone reacted very well. Everyone said yes. They yes they were just that's what happens today thankfully he has precision shooting and he didn't hurt any of us and then he then he gets one bad guy and he goes you guys can do whatever you want with him he throws him to the ground in front of the villagers like i'm like kill that guy too they don't want to kill him yeah they went through trauma they don't want to murder. Just end it. End it. Oh, my God. I couldn't believe that. Okay, so the Ten Rings meet with Stane Obadiah, who's been trafficking arms for them.

He intends to replace Stark as CEO of Stark Industries, and he has most of the group killed, and he steals the suit that they had been building to mimic Stark's, and then Stane then builds a new suit from the remaining parts, and there's a lovely scene with some fucking scientist

where he's like, the technology exists. Tony Stark built this and I cave with nothing. And then he's like, I'm not Tony Stark, baby. And then we never see him again. Yes.

And he builds, so Stane builds like a huge version of it where he's- Honestly, too big. It's too big. Yeah, agreed. It's very Ursula vibes. it's very ursula vibes like it's like okay we get it you're very scary and meanwhile stark sends pepper to hack into stain's

database now she's sitting on a desktop and she's like copying file copying file transferring like it's literally it says like stealing the images like it says everything she's doing so that we can follow it because Cause you know, Nicole and I would have no idea what's going on unless you said like, I was like, thank you for that. I was like downloading bad thing onto good thing. I was like,

thank you. So then she finds out that he hired the 10 rings to kidnap and kill Stark. She meets with agent Phil Coulson. Who's played by Clark Gregg of shield to inform him of the activities. Yeah. and then I think there was supposed to be a joke there when he was like, we're from shelter... I don't know.

I can't remember what the acronym is. And then she was like, that's a mouthful. And he was like, yeah, I guess we'll figure it out. Oh, they do a lot. Oh, is that SHIELD? Yeah, they do stuff like that, right? Well, that was the time. I feel like at the time, these are like, I'm sorry. Wow, real Marvel apologists here.

We need you. We need you to balance. I know. So what? That was that time? That was like funny to everyone right then. Yeah, that was like funny when you were like, I have read the comics. I do recognize that.

And so it allowed for that moment at the end post-credit sequence. But it is very funny to me like listening to this and like revisiting this movie after like i haven't watched this movie in years and revisiting it and thinking about how all these things have like branched out into all these movies is bananas to me it's like what it's it's crazy if you're if this was the original thing and you were so excited and now it's been now there's 27 and we can't keep up and we've just you know wait and then also isn't there like a shield tv show there was yes is that part is that canon um that's a big question

whoa it's like uh sort of but sort of not. Some creators say yes, some say no. How wild. Why is there a debate? I know, it's so much. Shouldn't it all just count? Do you think this is the dream of, I want to say Patty Stanger, but that's the matchmaker? That's the millionaire matchmaker. What's Stan Lee?

That's his name? Patty Stanger. Who is it? Is it Patty Stanger? It's Stan Lee. Patty Stanger created the Marvel Universe. And she now matches millionaires up with hot women. I think this is Stanley's dream.

Wait, is that his name, Stanley? Yes, Stanley. Do you think this was his dream? Stanley! To Stanley's dream? I think it was part of his dream. I think Stanley was someone who, yes, the bigger the better, the more the better. But I am imagining Patty Stanger having a cameo in every single Marvel movie.

She's like, your picker's off. She only has one thing she says. We need more of that show. Where is that show? Yeah, I don't know where it went. I think she got married and she was like, done. And I don't know why her name was in my brain. No, you don't know where it went. I think she got married and she was like done. And I don't know why her name was in my brain. No, you've never seen it?

No, I think Stan and then I was like Stanger? Patty? Newcomer's millionaire matchmaker next season? I'll watch it. Okay, we have to take a break. Alright, so then tell us what happened in Mexico. All right. So then tell us what happened.

Oh, Stan ambushes. Right. That's where we are. Yeah. Ambushes Stark and steals the arc reactor from his fucking chest. But he uses this thing to like make him sick. Oh, yeah. They put something in his ear and it's like basically it's like apitched thing that they put by their ear so their whole head basically gets so like intense that they bleed out their ear and they're like but he goes it only lasts for 15 minutes so like which is

crazy he did it he practiced it on terrence howard right and then he's like no or who was it he practiced it on the one of the bad guys oh okay and then he's like don't worry it only lasts 15 minutes so then when we see him do it on robert downey jr i'm like i'm not worried it only lasts 15 minutes he'll figure it out so that was nice they set that up for us well he does figure it out somehow he's able to crawl down to his basement and he replaces it with the original reactor that saved him because pepper potties uh she put it in a glass box because she didn't do her job right. He said destroy it, but she was like, I'm keeping it. And then S.H.I.E.L.D.

It said proof that Stark has a heart. Stark has a heart. And it's right here in the box. And I keep it in the box like an award. S.H.I.E.L.D. agents attempt to arrest Stane, but he attacks them in his suit. Stark and Stane fight on the top of Stark Industries building and stark tells pepper to overload the reactor that powers the building

the surge kills stain gotta say pepper potties she knows a lot for being a personal assistant like she's not just grabbing coffee she knows how to and she had to run in heels on a great i was like her heels are going in the holes. There's no way they're not. Oh, that's trusting me out. Well, at a press conference the next day, Stark admits to being Iron Man, okay? He was supposed to not do that. They gave him cards. And they gave him little cards.

Say exactly what's on the cards. And he's like, I might. I could do that. I could do that. And he gets up there and he's like, no, I'm not a superhero. I am Iron Man! No, he's like, I'm not a superhero i am iron man no he's like i'm a i'm a narcissist yeah he couldn't help it oh we forgot to mention there was um a real interesting burger king uh cross promotion there was when he gets back from afghanistan he says i want a an american cheeseburger which i was like xenophobia yeah that was what's wrong with

an afghanistan cheeseburger it was probably just as good but he gets two cheeseburgers from burger king and i was like you're the richest man in america trump loves you could have you could have gotten something better yeah i mean but then there's like he's holding the burger he took two bites you know i i always notice when people don't eat things and things because the actor doesn't want to sit there and eat 500 burgers throughout the day so he takes he takes a nibble and then he puts it down like you're hungry you're so hungry in how long were they feeding you three months they he he hadn't eaten in three months he took a direct flight right back to america and said i gotta get to the press conference. Hospital for who? Not me.

No. First BK value meal. That's what I need. My favorite is watching the reporters when some of them had really big reactions before they were supposed to, which I really love. He basically is like, he said something that wasn't the big thing. And then one guy's like, oh, and I was like, oh, because he goes, I want to stop making weapons for like foreign countries or something. Or like he said something like that. And then someone was like okay because he goes i want to stop making weapons for like foreign countries

or something or like he said something like that and then someone was like oh and then i was like he's about to say something bigger than that then he goes i'm iron man then that guy goes and everyone stood up and i was like you probably wish you didn't react so big to the first thing that's so funny i wonder if the director was like hey um i'm sorry can you not do that again bob and he's like got it and then just kept doing whatever oh my god so funny okay wait and then there's a thing like as we said after every movie there's a scene after the credit so in the credit scene stark is visited at home by shield.H.I.E.L.D. director Nick Fury, who is played by Samuel L. Jackson. He's in the movie?

Yes. He tells him he wants to discuss the Avenger initiative made up of other superheroes. He comes in when he has an eye patch and he's like in his house. Someone got one eye? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what's going on under it. But yeah.

And they have a moment. You'll find out in 20 years. Oh, 20 years? 20 years? I don't know. It's something like however long it was. Oh, my God. 11, 12 years.

We'll get there next week probably. So, yeah, that happens at the end. So it's kind of like a little teaser that something's about to go down. I guess I'll watch it. You have to. I mean, overall, I felt like pretty fun but I will say I got bored in the part near the end where they started fighting and I was like I don't really care I guess part of it is that I knew that Iron Man was going to be okay yes and so I don't really

want to watch a long battle but I know that they kind of need to do that right like it just feels like every movie is going to have something like that I also just I wanted more Obadiah I yeah I really you didn't get enough I did not get enough Obadiah I thought Obadiah might interact more with Pepper I thought it was going to be a little like like because once he kind of knew that she got the thing he just looked over his balcony like she walked out of the office and secretly took the the drive that had all the stuff that she downloaded and then then she like walks off really fast and like teams up with clark greg and like walks off really briskly and then obadiah is just watching and he's like yeah and then she like

takes the newspaper to pick up her little fucking Amazon fire stick. I don't know. What do you like a USB port thing? And he's like, is that today's paper? And she's like, ah, he's like, give it to me. She's like, and then she has in her hand. And I was like, oh, that was like a tense moment. Maybe more tense. Right. What happened? And then Marvel said, not a chance. Didn't you like Nicole where she left the office, though? She gave him the newspaper and then she's holding her the thing in her hand, and it's clenched. And then she goes out, and she holds it up, and she opens it.

So we know that she has it. Yes. I will say this. Not one time did I get lost. Yeah. The only times I got lost were some of these things that I'm reading here that I was supposed to get. But I never felt confused in the moment, really, except for a couple of the you know i was kind of questioning things but i wasn't like what's going on i was like he's attacked they got him now he got out

that he killed the people you know it was pretty pretty straightforward yeah pretty straightforward uh i appreciated that wow okay so they got some awards or they they got nominated for some awards for this iron man was nominated for several awards, including Oscars for best sound editing. Oscars? And best visual effects. They loved when they dragged the trash. They were like,

that's incredible. It was so cool. At the time, that must have been really good. It was also nominated for a Grammy for best score soundtrack album. I don't remember

a single song sang. No. I don't remember a single note of music. I don't either. Maybe it was powerful, I guess, you know, taking me through the story. But I feel like Oscars?

Dude, that's big. Seems wild. It also won Best Science Fiction Film, Best Actor, and Best Director at the Saturn Awards. It also won Best Summer Movie at the MTV Movie Awards. Now that's more where I thought this would fit in. Now I didn't think it should be nominated for Oscars. Me either, but okay.

Okay, I'll take it. And critically, the film was well received. It has a 94% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Wow. So you are in the minority 6% that doesn't like this film. Okay. I'm not saying I liked it, by the way. I'm just saying I didn't mind it.

Okay, I'll say this movie was better than every single thing we watched for Lord of the Rings. Well, and an hour shorter, which we have to praise. But I gotta say, it was two hours. It could have been less. It could have. There were times where I checked to see how much I had left and it was always an hour somehow. Yes, it's always an hour. But Lord of the Rings, it was always like two hours.

I know. And you go, what? Yeah, it's always an hour but lord of the rings it was always like two hours i know roger yeah it's so wild roger ebert of the chicago sun times gave the film four out of four stars praising downey jr's performance at the end of the day it's robert downey jr who powers the liftoff separating this from most other superhero movies so this must have been an incredible departure from what people had been used to at that point. And I mean, he is so charismatic. He really makes the thing come alive. Like he's just

he can take a very like bland moment and give it some charm. I mean, I love him. Audience is like the film giving it a 91% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Its budget was $140 million and it ranked number one at the box office earning $98.6 million during its opening weekend.

Wow. At the end of the film's run, Iron Man had earned $585 million worldwide. That's so much money. It's a lot. All right. Well, should we do some trivia? Yeah. Okay.

Okay. Iron Man made his Marvel comics debut in 1962 stan lee created the character his brother larry lieber penned the issue artist don heck designed the character and artist jack kirby designed his battle armor iron man's original origin story is relatively the same that we see in the film but the comic but in the comics tony stark was kidnapped and held in vietnam not afghanistan so do you think they did that because of the war then? Yes. I think they just updated it because we weren't in the war in Vietnam anymore.

Oh, because they were in Vietnam in the 60s. I was thinking it was not connected to a war. I think it might be a commentary on us being involved where we shouldn't be involved. Wow, there's a deeper meaning to this? I think? They're often, they often were. Tell us, tell us.

Here's a question. First of all, there's a little part of me that feels like these are like fairy tales where they just always existed. Like the idea that a man sat down and was like Iron Man, you know? That's like, that's cool to me. I think that's neat. So yeah, Preeti, what do you think in terms of like the message or something? Do a lot of these the message or something is do

a lot of these comics tend to try to do that or what yeah I mean the look at the X-Men the X-Men are all about like othering and you know the rights of the marginalized done incredibly imperfectly but that was sort of

the instinct behind it I don't know anything about I mean I've never seen X-Men so I don't know I'm a very big X-Men fan I've seen sort of the instinct behind it. I don't know anything about, I mean, I've never seen X-Men, so I don't know. I'm a very big X-Men fan. I've seen all of the movies, but I agree. Like it is about othering and it's done in a, in a very interesting way with a bunch of white people.

And you're like, huh? Okay. Well, they got, they got halfway there in the comics and then we're like, all right, that's enough.

But so that makes sense why they put it in afghanistan it wasn't just a choice for it was based on what he had originally written which was happening in vietnam okay so that's more luckily history tends to repeat itself so they were like perfect there's always another unnecessary war awesome so according to e other actors who were considered for the lead role over the years included Nicolas Cage. Wow. Oh, wow. That would be different.

Different movie. Tom Cruise. Also very different. Rob Lowe. Very different. Leonardo DiCaprio. I could see it though. Clive Owen, Timothy Oliphant, Sam Rockwell, and Hugh Jackman.

Okay. Who's your favorite? I could see Timothy Oliphant. Yeah. Did I say see Timothy Oliphant. Yeah. Did I say his name right? Yeah. I think I could see Leonardo DiCaprio, but not... Yeah.

But has Leonardo DiCaprio ever done a superhero movie? He doesn't feel like he really would. No. Hmm. What? Terrence Howard was the highest paid actor on this film? Why did he get more than Robert Downey Jr.? Yeah, that's wild.

This is Robert Downey Jr.'s big comeback. Robert Downey Jr., he had some career lows, lest we forget. He went to jail. There was like a whole thing. Wait, but this was his comeback? This was a big comeback for Robert Downey Jr.

I remember when he was cast, and it's part of what worked so well because it felt like a really scrappy movie. Like everyone's like, this isn't going to work. It's a character nobody cares about. And it's an it's a washed up actor. And it's like directed by the guy like who did swingers. Right.

Like I'm a weird thing. And then it just like like nobody saw Iron Man coming. Nobody saw those accolades. Nobody saw the money coming. Wow. So that must have been interesting.ades. Nobody saw the money coming. Wow. So that must have been insane. Yeah. Wait, that seems so wild to me.

Because to me, Robert Downey Jr. had his whatever going on a long, long time ago. But I guess it's more recent than that. Yeah. And then Jon Favreau. Yeah, I guess I'm like, he's always been a director, a big time director. Interesting. Well, that does change it. I feel like RDJ was doing those like fun, cool, but they were like low budget, like weird movies.

Like he did like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, which I loved. And like this was like a big mainstream jump for him. Wow. Okay, wait, this last bit of trivia is interesting to me because I was going to ask you if you thought that Gwyneth Paltrow was improvising because I felt like a lot of her lines felt really casual

in a way that seemed unscripted. And it turns out this is true. Yeah. Oh, so much of the dialogue was ad-libbed. Oh, including the final line, I am Iron Man. He just threw that out there? I mean, pretty cool. the final line. I am Iron Man. He just threw that out there? I mean, pretty cool. That's awesome.

I am Iron Man. Everyone's like, hmm, it's not in the script. What did the script say if he made that up? Yeah. Hello, I am Iron Man. He gave it the intonation.

It was like, it's me. I did it. I wonder if they just like got the scenes they needed and if they just like got the scenes they needed and then they were like I don't know what do you think have fun and then he had fun and everyone's like yes

we love it so in this franchise superheroes don't generally have secret identities which I like I like that it's not that's interesting so I liked that he just said he was Iron Man I thought that kind of cut to the chase in a good way but I really really felt, did you feel that any of this felt sort of casual? Like there were moments where I was like, it felt like, I particularly noticed it with Gwyneth Paltrow and Robert Downey Jr. that I felt like they were making up their lines that she was like, when she's doing the operation thing and she's like, what do you, what do you mean operation? What's operation? And he's like, the game, the game. It just seemed like it was just so like whatever you want to say they seemed very comfortable with each other there was like a familiar

they for sure had that well I think that's interesting maybe that's Jon Favreau's touch letting them have a little fun with it yeah I mean I guess I guess I didn't hate it as much as i thought you like this is this is what happens every time i fucking watch these fucking movies i like talk about it with a

nice person i'm like there were nice elements to it it wasn't that bad it always happens like by the end we like love everything it's so confusing so here's a new segment we have it's called is chris in this now this is a new segment where we will have a yes or no conversation about if a chris chris hemsworth chris evans chris pratt chris pine is in this film wait chris pine is in the marvel universe i don't know is what i can bring to the conversation now okay so was a chris in this film now i would say no we had no chris's even though all these people blend together for me hemsworth evans and pine are one person as far as i can tell chris yes absolutely i don't think there was a chris in this movie i don't think there was now should there should a chris have been in this film

not necessarily one of the big four chris's but should any chris christine chr a Chris have been in this film? Not necessarily one of the big four Chris's, but should any Chris, Christine, Kristen, et cetera, have been in the film? I don't think it needed a Chris. Yeah, I think the film did well without a Chris. Let's put Kristen Chenoweth in there. Yes. Or Christine Baranski. Oh, yeah. She would be great.

I've heard that show Gilded Age or whatever is really good. The one with Christine Baranski. Ooh, that's on HBO Max? Yeah. I don't typically watch things that are set in that sort of period piece vibe. Me either. But hey, I'm open to new things as we've seen here. Okay, so this is our review segment.

Oh yeah, we have to name this. We got to name it. So we have MC Review. I thought it was Mick Review. I was like, why is it Mick Review? Five Star Lords. What is that? I don't know. Five Starks.

Or Five Stark. Tower Stark Industries? Five Stark Industries. Five Stark Tower... Okay. This is so funny to pick names on stuff that I don't fucking understand Which one should it be? Of those?

You can make one up It needs to be 5 star related or review related The last one was 5 Starks 5 Starks isn't bad, right? You could do better Okay okay i'll read them again mcdonald's review or no mc review five star lords five starks five stark five stark industries five stark industries is kind of funny five stark industries five stark industries i kind of like

i i think i'm leaning towards that one too wait what was our medea one uh what was it oh because i always had to say it right yeah and it really brought me joy and i cannot remember it what was it oh my god i don't know oh was it five hollalers yeah yeah yeah that's it okay five star hollalers five five five hollalers yeah five stark industries okay we have some reviews and everyone should give us reviews uh that are all five stars this one comes from hd felder seven love love love this podcast has kept me alive during COVID. Wow. That's a big statement. And my crazy nurse career, please do Marvel.

Oh, you're going to be happy. you're in luck. We're doing it. Okay. So this season, in addition to Apple reviews, we'll also be reading reviews from letterboxd.

And then we'll be giving each film a one sentence review ourselves in a star rating. For anyone who doesn't know letterboxd. And then we'll be giving each film a one-sentence review ourselves and a star rating. Oh my God. For anyone who doesn't know, Letterboxd is a social platform where people can write letters. No, they can write reviews of films. They can write letters to their favorite films.

Dear Iron Man. Dear Iron Man, you're so hot. I love you. You can follow the show on Letterboxd at Newcomers. Okay, so we're going to be leaving our own reviews, and that puts a lot of pressure on us, I will say. This review comes from Griffin. It was three and a half stars.

If Iron Man asks you to stick your hand in his hole, you absolutely do it. No questions asked. Oh. Oh, okay. Lindsay said, we should slut shame Tony Stark more. Wow. She gave it four stars.

So what's a one sentence review you would give this film? Oh my God. Okay. What's our star rating? Do we have to decide together? I think we do because we have a shared page. Okay. So I guess I give it three and a half or four stars. Well,

Preeti, now you're giving it four stars. You started this episode saying you hated it. I want to know what Preeti rates it because you genuinely are a fan but you have time on your side with seeing all the other ones. Does it matter or do we rate it based on just the experience of watching this movie? That's so hard.

Would you give this different stars based on knowing everything you know about the Marvel Cinematic Universe? I think if I was basing it, like, at the time, I would have been like,

five stars! Oh, okay. Okay, so is it out of five? Is it out of five? I need to know, because, like, okay. I think it's out of five.

Okay, so I think three and a half is reasonable for us to say. We have to set the bar, because, like, if we love something, we want to give it five. Yes. Give it five. I didn't love this.

No, but it was like easy to follow. OK, that's my review. My review is this was easy to follow. I understood everything. More Obadiah. Yeah. That's my review. I'm going to add to that.

Needed a kiss. Yes. No kissing. And overall, enjoyable to watch Rodney. Rodney Dangerfield almost did it again. Rodney Dangerfield. Robert Downey Jr. Robert Downey Jr.

Robert Downey Jr. elevates the script. I'll say that. He does. Okay. Wait, does Obadiah come back? Okay. I was so confused because later

there was a villain that I was like, did Jeff Bridges play two villains? Oh my God. It's like a soap opera. No, it was Kurt Russell. Oh, I messed them up.

And I just, I just thought they were the same person. Wait, it was Kurt Russell. Oh, I missed them up. And I just, I just thought they were the same person. Wait, what is his name? Who? What's Obadiah's? Oh, Jeff Bridges. Jeff Bridges.

Is he single? Let's find out. Because I like, I'm horny for him. He has a wife that he's had since 1977. Yuck. Dude, he's fully married that's so her name's susan fuck susan no i shouldn't do that i can't hate three oh my god how old are

the kids uh maybe i can have one adults beau bridges oh that's his brother okay what who's the kids let me see hold on who are his kids isn his children are jordan bridges is an actor oh how old is jordan he was born in 73 okay that's old for me okay i can't find more information fast enough isabel jessica and hayley are his kids so wait is that not his kids? What's going on? Yeah, okay. Isabel, Haley. Wait, so there's no boys? Jordan is his nephew. He has three girls.

Unless one of them is bisexual or gay. I mean, I don't know what's going on. Suddenly you want to date his daughter just to get close to him. Just let me near him please anything can happen whoa he's from an acting dynasty his dad was lloyd vernett bridges jr an american film stage television actor well we learned something new every day his mummy was a

poet wow he's he seems great doesn't he let me in the family let us in um okay well everyone should go write a review on Apple podcast giving us five stars and we will pick a five star review to read on the next episode and you can rate us on Spotify and go leave a letterbox you know review yourself if you watch the movie for the first time

um Preeti do you have anything you would like to plug yeah Women of Marvel number one comes out march 9th and you can pre-order my spider-man book spider-man social dilemma which comes out july something 2022 oh great so that's that was yesterday for us right now the march 9th um that's very exciting and thank you so much for being here again it's so amazing yes thank you know about everything that we talk about and that you're like delighted when we're like duh we don't get this i know we're like we hated

this and you're like that's quintessential to the plot like let me convince you why eventually you love it you already did though because you're so charmed by all this stuff that makes us think it's good and then we're like oh wait we get to watch the second one tonight oh my god okay so next we're gonna watch iron man 2 came out two years later um i'm i'm semi excited i'm curious what's gonna happen with some of these characters we know and here's the thing i'm really sad that there's going to be no Obadiah. But maybe there's a new person you're going to like. Maybe they'll have a throwback

to Obadiah. I'll be like, remember when Obadiah did this? And he'll be like, and I'll be like, oh yeah, it's Obadiah. Just the flashbacks. When he has like a memory about Obadiah and you're like, that's the best part. The best part's a slow motion fucking memory of him in the suit being like, I'll kill you. and you're like that's the best part the best part's a slow motion uh fucking real like a memory of him in the suit being like i'll kill you and i'm like yes horny for that obadiah

okay well we'll see you next time bye Thank you. That was a Hiddem Original.