Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Madea's Big Happy Family (w/ Rae Sanni)

Episode Date: May 4, 2021

Comedian and writer Rae Sanni joins Lauren and Nicole to discuss another film within the Madea Cinematic Universe–Madea's Big Happy Family (2011). Follow Rae on Instagram and Twitter, and check-out The Cast with Rae & Jacquis on HeadGum.Next Week's Watchlist: The Oval S1 E1 "The Pilot" (2019)Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what Tyler Perry hit they should check out next.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Mabel, can you do something for me, baby? Yes. Do one thing for me. Yes. Can you just hold me one more time? What bring you by here? I just wanted to have a nice dinner, everybody together.

You need to help her with her kids. Can't nobody bring a family together like you can. Hallelujah. Girl, I will stump a mud hole in your skinny, bougie. What's a mud hole? Byron, I want my money. What are you talking about? Byron.

Stop. Stop. Byron. Listen, we ain't together, OK? All right. Let me help you get these children over here. Stop. Stop. Ram. Ram. Listen, we ain't together, OK? Ah. Let me help you get these children over here. Yes. I ain't going.

What are you doing? I'm so glad you're here. Did you blow your voice? Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth? Everybody, here's Madea. A rum-dum-ditty. You on the roll, girl. You on the roll.

Shake that. Madea's big happy family. Can I take your order? Give me a ham, egg, and cheese biscuit. We out of ham. You out of ham. We got no damn stuff. I'm taking everything you got. Oh, wow.

Oh, boy. This is the eighth episode of our third season of Newcomers. It's me, Nicole Byer. I'm Lauren Lapkus. Oh, boy. We are working our way through Tyler Perry's abode of work for the very first time with the help of Perry Scholars, super fans, and sometimes people who have contributed. This season will be 10, maybe 15. We don't know yet. Maybe 13. we don't know yet maybe 13

I don't know we love watching Taylor we have to keep going and nothing has ever gone faster than these first 8 episodes we are zooming through this it is so fun so much fun so today we have experienced another film within the Madea cinematic universe

the real MCU Madea's Big Happy Family from 2011, and we're going to revisit some movies, TV shows, and the weeks to come. And if you want to watch the movie, it's on Netflix, HBO, and Amazon Prime, as well

as for a small fee on Apple TV and Google Play if you want to pay for it. Obviously, we're going to spoil the movie, so if you want to watch it first, go, we're going to spoil the movie. So if you want to watch it first, go do that. I would highly recommend it personally. Before we bring in our guest, Nicole, what did you think of the movie? Okay, you texted me, you were like, I am laughing. I cried. I also laughed. And I found my I was, I woke up early to watch this. So at like 1130 in the morning, I was like sobbing over this death. And I, at one point I was like, Nicole.

Dude, it's so intense. I mean, this movie truly goes everywhere that it could possibly go. It's very, very funny. It's really sad. But then it's, that it ends on a really funny note again. Cause actually when it was like the funeral, I was like, so he's just going to end a comedy with a funeral. He does this. But then he didn't.

He made it insane. Oh, my God. The last three minutes of this movie, Lauren, I was laughing so hard. It was so funny. And the bloopers were great. Oh, I didn't watch the bloopers. I should have watched the bloopers. You gotta stick around for the bloopers.

They're always good. I truly was like, and this movie is like an hour and 45 minutes it went pretty fast I feel like when Medea is present um time flies I I mean I love the whole thing with the fucking um burger place in the beginning oh my god that was so good also Tiana Taylor I didn't know acted she was very funny what do you know her from she's a singer oh oh i don't know and she's in the um kanye west music video nope that's not how it goes like uh okay she's like banging on the floor um and then she's like with her husband and they're

like sexy and oiled up and then they're in a shower together um how does the song go doom doom doom maybe our guests can help me but she's also looking at me like she doesn't fucking know oh no doom doom doom okay well let's bring our guests out we're so excited for our guests today ray sani ray is a comedian and writer who most recently wrote for the second season of hbo's a black lady sketch show which we love and she's also the co-host of fellow head gum podcast the cast with ray and jackie's with jackie sneo welcome ray hi oh my god thank you so much for having me we're so excited she told me before we started that she had never seen a tyler perry film welcome so this is i know i'm i this was this is great for me this was this this whole thing the idea of coming and talking to you guys

about my first tyler perry experience was like a delight everything happened while i think this is a good movie too, as an introduction to the Tyler Perry universe. Wait, do you know what song I'm talking about? The Kanye West song? I know the video and I know the song, but I don't know the name,

but that was Tiana Taylor. I think froze all of black America for like two minutes and 30 something seconds because she's doing sick choreography. Yes. And her like every muscle like possible for a human being to have. She uses and flexes while dancing. It's incredible. She's also a really good singer.

Her last album, she has since retired. She's very talented. But her last album was so good. Lauren, maybe you remember her from my sweet what is that my beautiful sweet 16 oh my super sweet 16 my sweet 16 i just was googling this and that i did watch like all of that show yeah so i probably at the time she was she was she was like signed to pharrell so pharrell paid for her to have like a huge Sweet 16. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

What a treat. But now she's like our age, I think. I think she's a little younger. I think she's like 32, 31. It says she's 30. It's Fade. Fade, yes. Fade.

I don't know how any song goes. I like your version thank you real dumb oh my god okay go ahead right you've never seen like a tv show of tyler perry's you've never seen a movie have you seen clips at all? Yeah, I've seen stuff. You don't live in America and have not seen something. Tyler Perry. And my mom is, you know, a very typical middle-aged African woman. Like, she just likes whatever syndicated sitcoms on television.

And she's often getting her life to meet the pains and something, the Browns and all this stuff. Like she loves and she just puts on the own network, which is probably just Tyler Perry's stuff. Right. So I've seen stuff in passing. And I know that guy, Mr. Brown, because of his like outrageous colored beard. We gotta talk about Mr. Brown because I'm starting to feel like Mr. Brown, I'm still confused. We watched Meet the Browns in the last episode and we understood now that, okay, he's the father of that woman that he really is married to yes but they're married it comes up at the top of this movie and i swear to god i googled i tried to google a medea family

tree and it like was so confusing it was so confusing well it's because medea is related to so many people and when you get into this storyline of this movie, the family tree is very mixed up. I mean, by the time you get to the end. I actually can't figure out, wait, how is Medea related to Loretta Devine? She's her auntie. Oh, okay. Because Shirley, I had to look this up like three times. Because Shirley, I had to look this up like three times.

Shirley, Loretta Devine, is the daughter of the very rude Miss Aunt Bam, who's hilarious. She's so funny. Like the opening scene at the doctor, I was like, this is hysterical. Then it went on too long. And I was like, this is sexual harassment. Then it got funny again. Don't you love how they go on too long and i was like this is sexual harassment funny again don't you love how they go on so long like i feel like watching the bloopers was funny because at the end like you see them improvise for a long time and then tyler perry is like and we cut like he lets it go forever almost to the point where it becomes not funny and then he cuts it but it's it's almost

weird because you're thinking okay he's directing this as he's in the scene, especially the moments when he's Medea in the scene, directing it, letting this person improvise. But he also is going like, okay, it's not fun anymore. Okay, well, I'm going to say cut in a second. He's debating how long it should go on. And there are points where he uses almost not even the Medea voice when he's improvising. I'm like, he's not going to use this.

It's weird. I mean, they must have so much fun for the three days they shoot you know what i mean like the best three days of your life i gotta know how long this movie took to make i yeah because yeah like if you're only shooting for three days that hospital scene should not have taken 45 minutes to do i don't know why we did that. Why did we do that? And there's so much improv in that scene. When you go to, like, with the bloopers, like, I think it's Mr. Brown talking to the doctor. He, like, asks him, like, they just go on and on with, like, all takes, like, different lines he could say. I mean, everyone is so funny that you would definitely want them to do that.

But they are moving so fast. Like, what movie was it that was shot in eight days acrimony like it's it's unbelievable days you can tell i will say i did watch so i like cut it right at the beginning of the bloopers and i loved he was like your eyes real and he was like yes he's like okay your eyes real i was like oh is he gonna give you and then in the movie the doctor you can see him trying to not break so many people so funny there are so many scenes where someone is just like smiling like those kids like when mendia is like like you know yelling at the kids and trying to get them to act better like they're just kind of like smiling at her, like little doubles.

It's so funny. Oh wait. And I got to say the end of the movie, you get a heavy traumatic thing that happened to, I think Kim. And it's truly like, it is just like, she was raped.

Go upstairs and talk to your husband about it. And you're like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Medea is such an interesting character because, especially in this movie, you get to see the depth of the character. She is so ridiculous and crazy and yells and is funny and whatever. But then she has this power in the family where she's able to like put everyone in their place and like fix everything and get everything right. And I was like, this is this is a great character.

Like she comes in and she's like, your kids are raised wrong. Like you were raped by your uncle and you need to tell your husband. Like, oh, my God, I just loved it. But what was so confusing to me was like. The movie could have been like 20 minutes long. Because all Shirley had to do was call her kids individually. Like all she had to do was be like, I know you don't fuck with your sister right now. be like, I know you don't fuck with your sister right now, but

Kimberly, please call your sister because I have cancer and we need to settle our affairs. And it's going to be four weeks. And by the way, the picture of the cancer looked like a fucking x-ray of like vegetables. I was like, what is that?

I did not understand why we all needed to sit down in perfect harmony to hear that mom's dying and no i did not understand like time is running out like time is of the essence also did she not tell them she had cancer at all ever because and she'd been battling it she said for seven years oh they never knew it's about they never knew when she first had it i don't think so it doesn't because she didn't say it's back she was like i have cancer and i'm dying or whatever and and even if like let's say she had told them in

the past if this important scenario where mom must talk to us, all of us together in one scene, in one setting to give us important news. And we remember mom has had seven years of cancer. Wouldn't we deduce that she's about to die and we should chill out a little bit? Instead, they're like, like no we will not sit down also tyler perry loves to reveal things at a dinner table it does yes and because you have to watch what is it why did i get married there's this whole scene at the dinner table honestly i have since watching it i have watched just that scene multiple times. It's so fucking good. So they start revealing.

I don't want to ruin it. Well, it's just so good because it's like it's a bunch of couples and they're on this like retreat. And basically one of them like reveals what's going on with one couple, like tells the secret that they've been keeping. And then everyone just like unleashes other secrets. And it's like so crazy. And all the secrets are so crazy.

And you're like this is this is why i like tyler perry though because the shit gets so crazy and real like i mean not real like in anything i've experienced but real in like the sense that like he'll just make the craziest statement like you were raped by your uncle i'm like what it's a comedy like it's just like we can go there and so the movie always keeps you on your toes like it's always interesting and i will say tyler does something interesting so in the beginning of the movie comedy pure comedy then the comedy gets undercut by like you're dying and then we get back to the comedy and i'm like that's not how anyone does it usually it's something serious that is

then undercut but i was like honestly i liked it this way because i was like oh no he does not care about structure there's no there's he's never studied how to write something like it's just however he wants it to go even the fucking like opening credits were like 20 minutes long i was eating dinner and i was basically done with it by the time it started i was like this cartoon that is playing was eating dinner and I was basically done with it by the time it started. I was like, this cartoon that is playing of the whole, so it was almost like a sitcom opening

of like everyone's got their thing and then you're like, she has cancer, Medea's driving through a burger place. It reminded me of Bebe's Kids, the movie.

And I was like, I was like, okay. It felt to me like Tyler Perry had watched, like Tyler Perry created a movie that used tropes from every single thing he had ever watched and ever loved. And I was just like, okay, he likes this movie that he's seen with a sassy grandma.

And he likes this movie. Oh, definitely watched Soul Food 90 times and put that in there. I love Soul Food. Maybe that's why I love Tyler Perry so much. I love the drama. It's like a crazy fucking drama. Yeah. That like the death scene.

What, you know what really bothered me is I don't want to cast dispersions about Tyler Perry as a man based on this movie, but like, I was like, this dude hates women. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. man based on this movie but like i was like this dude hates women oh yeah yeah the women suffer a little bit in the movie it's interesting because like jeez like i was like hold on a second they made this oldest oldest sister of course she was beautiful light- skin and rich. So she has to be evil. Right. They made her like mean for for no reason. So mean.

And I was like, what? Like they made it look like her husband was the he's the old Spice guy. I know. She's just terrorizing this poor old Spice guy who's siding with her family, even though he don't know what the fuck he's talking about. Mind your business, Old Spice. He's like, like jumping on the family side. Everybody's acting like she's she's just this horrible person for no reason. I'm loathing her because nobody offered her any humanity whatsoever.

Didn't even see evidence of why Isaiah Mustafa's character would be into her. And then revealed at a dinner table because you in a fight with your sister that you got like, we don't find out how, but Lil Bow Wow's your brother's son. No, they say she was raped by her uncle. And'm like who's the uncle is it joe wait was it joe well i was like it can't be joe right like that's the other tyler perry character yeah no it can't be that's too fucked up like you know what i bet it's someone who married into the family. I hope so, too, because then I was like, now Bow Wow has to deal with this. Bow Wow's an incest child. Incest, yeah.

Also, Bow Wow was real dense in that scene. I was like, how do you? Oh, my God. Well, who's the kid then? You watched the baby? So you watched that baby? Where's the baby at? And I loved, you should look in the mirror.

Look in the mirror. Like, that was the emotional moment. I was like, no, no, no, Tyler. The weight of this scene is not in figuring out that Bow Wow's the baby of the rape. It's that she was raped by an uncle and that her fucked up sister revealed it at a table. Yeah. That was where the emotion should have. And that no one has given her.

Why didn't anyone love this girl enough. Exactly. Pursue her and make her feel better. Like and then for it to then be later revealed that that child was the child of rape by a family member. That makes it even worse that no one consoled her. And they were like, talk to your husband about it. What's he supposed to do? He didn't rape her.

He said, we're going to get you some help. And I was like, okay, finally. But I gotta say, Bow Wow, Brian, Byron, he took it rather well. No, he took it too well. He took it too well. That made me laugh every single time. That was so funny.

Byron, Tiana Taylor, I usually hate that character. I really do usually hate that, like, stereotypical, like, baby mama from the hood character. because it always feels like men making fun of or like being derogatory toward black women in a way that makes me uncomfortable a lot, you know, just because it plays on tropes that like affect us in real life. But something about the way Tiana was doing it was so endearing. I don't know. I liked her. I found it really funny, like in a way that I think she was adding so much to it. I felt like she was bringing her own humor and flair to it.

And the part where she comes in with that hat and then he calls her a leprechaun. That made me laugh so hard. I was dying. But yeah, no, I know what you mean. I feel like she brought something to it that was really different and like and she was so charming yeah comparison to lauren london which isn't fair to either of the actresses so i don't mean to compare them that way but it was like there there was nothing i don't know it's again a misogynist movie because there was nothing written about

lauren london's character that made it make sense that byron jr would want to be with her in the first place but i think that's a testament to tiana taylor who made an unlikable character you're not supposed to like the baby mom no no you're not supposed to like the baby mama or the current girlfriend, though. And I ended up wanting Bow Wow to get back with Tiana Taylor. Me too. Because she like, I can't. Yeah, she like just really made it her own. And you understood why Bow Wow was with her.

Like with Kimberly, you're like, why would anyone be with Kimberly? Kimberly is horrific. But it's like, yeah, Sabrina, Tiana Taylor's character, wants her money. She's loud. I know, she's so mean. But she's also a joy to be around. Yeah, she's really funny. And also, there's a baby, but she cares about him.

Yeah. It looks like, to me. Yeah. Before we get into the summary, should do our news media news media so tyler perry received hilarious i love the parentheses after tyler perry received an honorary oscar this was very exciting i was like we have our finger on the pulse we sure do talking about the right thing right now he He is finally getting recognized. So at the 93rd Academy Awards on April 25th, Tyler Perry dedicated his Gene, uh-oh,

Hursalt Humanitarian Award to anyone willing to reject hate and stand in the middle with him. In selecting Tyler Perry to receive the award, the Academy cited a cultural influence extending far beyond his work as a filmmaker. I mean, yeah. And they talked about all the stuff

that he's done for like getting all of his cast and crew vaccinated i mean you know making it safe for everyone and um i mean i i really liked his speech i thought it was good i thought he was like i i it made me i feel like we haven't um gotten into him as a person that much and i haven't seen that like a lot of interviews with him so that was kind of interesting to see after like being so in deep with his movies right now but I like the story he told I thought that was very moving and he seems like a good person yeah I think he's a good person he's a good billionaire is what we're hoping I guess that's what I'm hoping I mean it seems like he enjoys his money but not like in a flashy way but then again i don't follow him on instagram maybe he is flashy

with it oh my god well no on from what i've seen on his instagram that makes it to the shade room i'm not here following talib very it's just that sometimes he's like he you know he's he's filling himself you know what i mean like yeah he wasn't like in perfect shape when he started out. You know what I'm saying? But every now and then, like Tyler Perry will post a thirst trap and you've got to start reckoning with so much in your head. You got to you got to start being like, OK, I'm attracted to medea right now and then and then also you gotta be like oh and my mom and my church friend like her church aunties are also getting their rocks off to this picture right now that's really confusing it's a very stressful it's a very stressful thing well because he got divorced during the pandemic right so it's like he started i think

working out we saw one post where he was like announcing his divorce slash he's working midlife crisis oh yeah he's doing the body like ex revenge bad and yes to be like you shouldn't have left tyler perry yeah i mean i wonder how much his ex got, actually. Were they actually married? I think they were just maybe partners. I thought they got married, right? I know they definitely had a baby. They have a kid, yeah. Yeah, a man, Tyler Perry. Which makes me laugh so hard.

Let's see. A man or amen. But I really like a man, Tyler Perry. Okay, he did get married in 2009 okay okay so now yeah can you google and see if she got any money i mean that's like she she looks like a like an east african woman if you divorce a billionaire i always look for when they marry foreign nigeria like africa i'm niger, so I'm always looking for like, get you an African girl. Let's see. You know, so I hope she got half them billions. I know.

I mean, let's see, dude. I mean, he got Beyonce to come out all the way to Atlanta for a party. This is a big deal. Really? For the opening of his studios. Beyonce don't go nowhere. Tyler Perry says his longtime girlfriend will get her share of his studios. Beyonce don't go nowhere. Tyler Perry says his longtime girlfriend will get her share of his wealth. See, maybe he is.

See, this is the thing. I'm like, I think it's helping his cause as a good person that he would say she'll be getting money and it's fine. Mm hmm. Because I feel like people avoid even talking about that kind of thing when. Yeah. They're super rich, too. Mm hmm. I wonder how much she got. I'm sure she got enough to never speak about it yeah that's probably huge oh my god do you think like you mean even speaking about their relationship because i'd be i'm very curious what is happening behind closed doors right

i yes she she knows what what to be quiet about there's an nda i'm sure honestly i bet you he pays her enough to not even have an nda oh yeah we're just like i'm fine away friend she's not stupid enough to fuck up the money all right nicole you know the part where they're in the mansion that's like for sale yes i was wondering if it was his house again because it looked like that house oh i wonder but then i was like would he use it again i feel like because he said he didn't want to they messed up his house so maybe he wouldn't do it again but they only they were only in that little part so yeah maybe it was yeah he he used his own house in acrimony um okay set for like which is that makes no sense that's crazy yeah i would not have all those people in my house god no i don't think he realized he was like they messed up my

floors and it was like oh because it was um why did i not why did i get married it was a diary of a mad black woman his first movie so he didn't i don't think he truly understood how many people would be coming in and out. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, the house was, the house was nice. I, that was another thing.

I like didn't understand how one of the kids was so much better off than every other kid. Oh my God. Yeah. And like, there wasn't an explanation about why that was so or why she didn't help her siblings. I just didn't get it. I know I were wealthy and selling multimillion dollar houses. My little brother would not be a drug dealer.

I mean, that's right. Right. Right. Yeah. You'd have to assume. But she's so angry at the family because they didn't do anything to help her. So why would she help them? Which they should have told us way before two minutes before a whole Maury episode.

Where Maury's like literally doing an episode. I'm like, I think they were just like, do whatever you would do in real life. Because he like fully. It was a full episode. A full episode. it made me so happy period this is what he does he will not tell you a reason why you should feel for someone until maybe at the end and even then you might not even get it and a lot of it is like the morality play of it all where it's like oh you it's very clear this person is evil we do not like them

and then by the end you're like but the reason why was she was raped by her uncle and then you're like oh and so then it's like it puts everything in perspective it's like it's not smooth so it feels like very it does feel like misogynistic to be like and it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like the illumination did anything to make the character more relatable or understandable because pardon my language i still thought she was a cunt after she told me that well she had a moment she had a moment there's a reason as to why she's a cunt well then it like, like, it shows something along the way. Like,

show a really sweet moment between her and her husband to explain why he would stay through this obvious emotional abuse.

Or, like, show her hug her mother even if it's when the other siblings aren't around. And then she doesn't even get to see the mom until she's dead.

And that was not nice. They didn't get the moment. Like, that was really sad. And that felt very punishing of the daughter. It felt very like, look, you're such a shithead. You don't even see your mom die when she'd been assaulted by her uncle. And no one told her why she was in the hospital. She walked in the hospital like, she's going to be fine.

I'll see you later. And has that all sprung on her. And it is really messed up. It's like, yeah, I'm resentful of this family who is making me pretend the product of my rape is my brother. So no, I didn't answer the phone call. And now my mom's dead. Like, that's things you should tell me yeah it's not fair and i mean there is that point in the beginning when bow i was like

um i don't keep secret from you mom just like you would never keep a secret from me and then like so so in my head i'm going wonder what the secret is, a big secret's gonna happen. Yeah, I know. I was like, slap me in the face. You know what I mean? Like, you can be a little subtler, my friend, you know? No, that's the thing about Tyler Perry. No, no, no. Nothing is subtle. Okay, well, let's take a quick break,

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So, Medea's niece Shirley goes to a visit at her doctor's office, or a visit with her doctor at the hospital. She's joined by Aunt Bam, who's her aunt and Medea's first cousin. The doctor lets Shirley know that her cancer has gotten worse, and she may only have a few weeks to live. After the appointment,

Shirley asks Aunt Bam to call her children so she can invite them to dinner and let them know the news I was like why can't you call your children one also I didn't realize that was like the first line of the movie and it takes us hours to get to dinner also we need to say that Aunt Bam smokes weed

in the hospital she's fucking hilarious she's like constantly high yeah she's and they let her say whatever she wants the actor which i love does does marijuana make you grope doctors has that ever been a side effect is that sativa or indica i need to be yeah i've never smoked in a hospital so also she touched the doctor's chest and then she like turned her butt on the doctor. She was like, yep, he's straight.

I was like, wait, is this Dr. Hart? He was a boner? Yeah. I was like, did this turn him on? This whole carrying on turned him on. That's disgusting. Okay, so Cora and Mr. Brown, our favorite characters from Meet the Browns, are also at the hospital getting Mr. Brown a checkup. The doctor tells them he has to do a colonoscopy on Mr. Brown and they find a growth that needs to be removed.

I mean, I think Mr. Brown is very funny. I think this character is really funny. I just cannot, I can never wrap my head around this relationship between this woman who's the exact same age as this man and supposed to be his daughter. I feel like her calling him Mr. Brown also throws me off because it feels like that's what she's saying to her husband or something she also calls her mother medea but also in real life they're married that's what trying to find out the medea family tree led me to so i was like is he her husband on this in this movie is here dad that's what you think but that's her dad who's the same age as her. She calls him Mr. Brown.

Is she Medea's daughter? Yes. So he's Medea's former lover? Yes, but only for like 32 seconds. Yeah, which she also subtracts down to 14 by the time she's on board.

Okay, so he pumped once and she dumped him. Yes. Got it. In a graveyard. But a baby came. A baby came, yes. But yeah, why does she call her mom Medea?

That's why it's confusing. And that's why I was like, I had no idea. Just say mom. I know, I know. Okay. Meanwhile, Medea enters a drive-thru for a restaurant called Snacks. Medea tries to order from the breakfast menu,

but the woman working the window is talking on her cell phone. Medea demands her attention and tries to order again, but is told she missed the cutoff time for breakfast. She has to speak to the manager only to find out the woman working the window is the manager.

Medea's enraged and drives her car into the restaurant with no repercussions. Nothing happens after that the only the only consequence is that the girl who worked at the place later sees medea and they is like upset like it's like nothing but that doesn't matter at all that's it i so i'm just trying to understand if if the woman who who ran wouldn't you know that that's your baby daddy's great aunt? You're telling me you've never met Medea? Like, it's like you are basically related to her.

And Medea is such a, you know, a figure you can't ignore. Yeah, she's not your standard great aunt or whatever she's supposed to be to them. So, like, I'm sure Byron would have had stories about his crazy ass aunt. And they all live in the same town. It's like you've met her. It doesn't sound like it's a big town. So aside from the fact that Medea never gets arrested, citations, nothing for destroying the whole property of a chain restaurant driving a whole car into a

restaurant literally nothing the fact that uh the baby mom was she sabrina she didn't know who she was at all was absurd and when she saw her didn't report her to the cops or anything no no one did just wreak havoc The restaurant doesn't even complain. Everything. So Shirley's children, Byron, Tammy and Kimberly arrive at Shirley's house for dinner. Byron brings his girlfriend Renee. Oh, I was mixing up Renee and Sabrina in my head. OK, so Renee and his baby Byron Jr. Tammy arrives with her husband, Harold, and their two sons. Kimberly arrives with her husband, Calvin.

Tammy and Kimberly argue when Byron's ex-girlfriend and the mother of his son Sabrina arrives. Sabrina is revealed to be the manager from Snacks who wouldn't serve Madea earlier. Sabrina annoys Byron by addressing him as a drug dealer. Byron, Sabrina, and Kimberly leave the dinner with their respective families due to the constant

arguing and Shirley doesn't get the chance to tell the family about her cancer. I'm like, at that point, you just yell it out. You just, I have cancer. Also, I love that Sabrina's like, he's dealing dope. And then Aunt Bam is like, let me get a dime bag. And I was like, wait, so we're using dope for just weed? I was like, dope is heroin.

Like, do you want a bag of heroin? Yeah, dope is like an old old i feel like it's something older people would say about yeah yeah call it all dope i think they do so that night byron is arrested by the police for failing to pay child support shirley goes to kimberly's house to ask her to bail him out and kimberly refuses calvin helps with the bail wait before that the men have this conversation about how mean their wives are and how they how like one's like i gotta get divorced like oh this is a misogyny uh okay okay i'm cool with that i'm i'm here i'm clear i'm like because all like with the exception of old spice guy both you har, and Byron ain't shit.

What are we complaining about? Oh my God, I know. I'm like, wait, Harold is the one who works at, wait, where does he work? At the car place or something? Yeah. And doesn't discipline his kids or seem to help his wife. I'm not rooting for him at all when he's

trying to bring her flowers or whatever. I'm like, you're annoying. And she's kind of right to tell you to fuck off like it was just like you're not a good parent and she's not doing worse than you like it's i don't know i thought that whole thing was really weird and then with byron like i'm not to say that you know people in like formerly incarcerated people don't deserve another chance. But it's like, bro, you just got out while I held your baby down while you were in prison. Like I get to complain about what you owe in terms of money while I raised your child when I'm the custodial parent like that. It just seems like a weird bashing woman session that wasn't necessary no and

you're right because we don't really get any of that from the women's side like we don't get to hear them say anything together have like a moment that would balance that at all it's truly just um okay the next day aunt bam tells medea about shirley's cancer prognosis and the family situation and medea promises to gather all Shirley's children for another dinner that evening. She goes to Harold's auto repair garage, where Tammy works with him. While there, Medea demands they go to the family dinner. She also scolds

their sons for their disrespectful behavior, which was fucking funny. She just slaps this kid. Oh my god, it was very funny. Medea then tracks down Byron. As she arrives, Byron is being fired for arriving late After his night in jail Medea demands that Byron attend the dinner

She then tracks down Kimberly Who's in the middle of showing a house to a real estate client And after Medea threatens and embarrasses her Kimberly also agrees to attend the dinner When she's disciplining the kid And she's like, you say thank you And the kid's like, thank you Afternoon The kids are so funny with like kind of a

smile creeping on his face being like thank you i just i know i actually wondered if that was supposed to be like that or they just started doing it back it was improvised and it made me laugh so hard it was really funny i. I was so, what would you do if you had never been slapped in your entire life? And you got to say whatever you wanted your entire life.

And here comes this six foot five gray haired lady slapping the shit out of you. What do you do? With swinging titties. I think it would shock me and I'd be like, yes, yes. You definitely don't want to get hit was swinging titties i think it would shock me and i'd be like

yes yes you definitely don't want to get hit again no i think i would have been frozen silent too meanwhile mr brown loses a lot of blood after his procedure and the doctor asked cora to donate when she does she finds out she doesn't have the same blood type as him, implying that he may not be her biological father. And I was like, wow. I was about to say, I don't think blood type even works like that. That's not how blood type works. No, no.

They didn't tell us that she was like O negative and he was AB or something. But maybe that's what they're trying to tell us, that it's like an impossible blood type to have. They're gonna need to explicate for me okay that whole thing was so crazy though so like she's i mean i don't know how old she's supposed to be at that point like 50 or something and she's finding out that her dad is not her dad then we find out when she's on mori that she was told that a couple years ago

that he was her dad so it's like they just started having this relationship i don't know oh so maybe that's why she calls him mr brown because she's always just been this elder to her and then she finds out that mr brown is actually her dad and she's like i don't feel comfortable calling him daddy he's yeah he hasn't been around he's mr brown that makes so much sense that i'm almost like giving tyler perry props that i almost think he doesn't know that he meant to put him there like like it makes so much sense but you're like oh there's no way that was on purpose like i feel like it's just like his name is mr brown i have a question is it is it understood that medea was the thought like no slut shaming just is it understood that medea

was getting around i don't think that was ever said i feel like that was so offhand like offhandedly said in this in this movie where she's like well just so you know like it was like kind of thrown in there to kind of explain why it's possible that mr brown is not her father it felt just like a way to so like because i'm wondering now it's like was Mr. Brown is not her father. Okay. It felt just like a way to kind of get through it. Because I'm wondering now, it's like, was Medea one of these naughty girls who then found Jesus? Because now all she does is quote scripture.

I feel like yes, because she's like had her license taken away. So the beginning of Medea goes to jail, it kind of explains. Okay, okay. Well, now I'm thinking about how they're making that show based on Medea as a 20-year-old or whatever.

So is she going to be like hot? Oh my God! Are we going to find out that she's like a stripper? That's really funny. I don't even know what to do with that. We need more information about this series. I need to know if Tyler Perry is playing young Medea. I need to know if a man is playing Meda or if a woman is playing Madea.

If it's a woman who's just like hot. It's not going to be funny in the same way if a woman is playing Madea. I do agree. I feel like it needs to be a man, but I also feel like I don't know that it can just be anyone. Like it's such a specific thing to be doing. Are they going to do like Martin Scorsese style CGI to his face and make him so young?

That would be so awful. I'm kind of here for it. I'll watch every fucking episode. Well, I'll watch it, but I'm not happy about it. So, okay. At dinner that night, Tammy and Kimberly argue and Tammy reveals that Kimberly had a child at 13 years old.

Already a huge reveal. Byron realizes that he is Kimberly's son and storms off after. And no one reacts. No one helps him. That's a Tyler Perry thing where huge, heavy fucking secrets are revealed and everyone sits there and nods their heads. And I'm like, so nobody's going to comfort the boy. No one's's gonna comfort the boy no one's gonna comfort her no one mom's not gonna say shut the hell up to the sister i i know they all just let it happen so harold puts his foot down this part was kind of weird to me and tells tammy to start respecting him after medea's urging

later that night kimberly and calvin continue to fight. Calvin leaves the house with their son. Okay. So when Harold and Tammy, when he's like telling her, like he suddenly starts yelling at her, like you need to respect me. And she, and he looks off at Medea, like he, he I'm doing it.

And she kind of gets like turned on. She like touches her collar and she's like, Oh, I, I, Oh, okay. She likes it.

And then it's weird because she can see that he's being told what to say by the two women over there but she doesn't care and she's just like this is working for me and like you are putting me in my place which like why she's like so strong and it was so weird right because none of the reasons that the absence of desire were resolved by his tone. Right. Because she's mad. He doesn't help with the family. Right. So it's not like the issue is that he don't talk to her the way a man should talk to a woman. This like outdated notion of what that is anyway. But like he also isn't bringing anything different to the table why was this sexy

i know i don't know also only one of their kids is at the dinner i guess they couldn't get the other kid for that day there was only one kid there when they were like run along go upstairs i was like wait only one okay also funny the night he brought her flowers and she's got like cream on her face. Pure white piles of whipped cream. Yeah, she goes to sleep like that. And I was like, you're not going to rub it in or wash it off. She gets to bed. And I was like, so that's going to be all over your pillow in one second.

Like, it's not going to get hard. It's a pile. I mean, it was truly whipped cream. So when Byron and Renee go to the drugstore they say they see Sabrina on the the store's tv which is funny because the night before Sabrina goes I need to leave and go to the tv station which is like wait what and then you find out the tv station is the set of Maury Povich she's doing an episode of Maury Sabrina humiliates Byron by publicly demanding her child support this finally pushes Byron over the edge.

He reluctantly decides to go back to drug dealing. Which is so funny that he like looks at the TV, hears Byron! Byron! And he's like, gotta go deal drugs. Bye bye! Also like

what? Like why? Why? Why? Like, why? Why? Why? Why, Maury? Well, just. I mean, I was wondering about that. So, why, Maury? Yeah.

Because, I mean, yes. But also, like, why be so insistent upon the fact that you are on the right track? I'm here for my son. Doing things for my son. And you catch a trash-ass clip 30 seconds on TV, and now you

done forgot what your parole stipulations are. What the fuck are we here doing? And it's like, oh, it's the job that he lost the only job yes it's one or the other you work this one singular job or you deal drugs become a male stripper or some shit like what do you mean being escort bow wow was still cute back he was you know i'm sure he could have you know smashed some old ladies for a little cash what you're dealing drugs for it's okay shirley's condition worsened she goes to the hospital byron tammy harold and calvin

arrived to see her she tells him that she loves them and dies shortly after really in a very chill fashion she's like goodbye yeah medea she was like where's kimberly and then she they were like not here yet we called her a hundred times she's never gonna answer and she's like tell her i'm waiting so i thought she was gonna hold on until kimberly got there and then die when kimberly there. But instead, she said, I can't wait no longer. Oh, bye-bye. Why wouldn't you, if Kimberly isn't answering the phone, text her, hey, you need to pick up this time. It's about mom.

It's serious. And then text her husband, who you all seem to love more than your sister. and then text her husband, who you all seem to love more than your sister. Tell Kimberly mom's in the hospital. It's serious. Well, yes. Yes. I mean, it's like he was already there.

Right. Then she gets there and he's like, she's dead. Yeah. Your mom died. She dead. Your mom died. And I was like, oh, we messed that line up.

It was not good. But then her reaction was, felt really real. Everyone was crying a lot. I was like, I was very impressed by all that. I find crying to be challenging.

Um, but okay. So in real life, not in real life, on camera, I'm like, uh,

I'm thinking about 20 things. Okay. So Medea confronts the family after Shirley, Shirley's funeral. So Medea doesn't go to the funeral, by the way, which I thought was funny. Which is so wild. She's like, oh, that's amazing.

Oh, it was so good. That woman singing. Ooh, wee. Yeah, it was beautiful. I was sobbing and it felt real. I was also crying. I too would not go to a funeral. Really?

I would never go to a funeral. You? I would never go to a funeral. You've never been to a funeral? I've never been. Too much or what? I don't know that grief is a thing that I can do well. And I don't know it's a thing that I can do in front of other people. And if you are directly related to the person, no one directly to me in my immediate family has died. But if I can't imagine having to be strong for other people when I'm also at my worst. So I probably would not go like I would go maybe put a flower on my

mom's grave or something, but I would not sit through a whole program and then you know go to and perform a eulogy or anything like that um i don't think i'm strong enough well i think your reason makes a lot more sense than medea's which was like he literally just said it's too loud i was like it's too loud i'm like i was like you a rude bitch you are having the noise by the way yeah it'd probably be like your tits hitting the wall when you walk in so okay so she tells them surely was a peaceful woman who would not want who would not have wanted their incessant fighting medea confronts sabrina about abusing byron's money and tells byron to get a respectable job

and she then tells Byron and Sabrina they need to work as a team to take care of their son. So she's putting everyone in their place. Yes. After addressing them, Medea tells everyone Shirley didn't want them to know that Kimberly had been raped by her paternal uncle when she was 12, which resulted in her pregnancy

with Byron. Medea urges Kimberly... Which is why she's telling everyone right now. Paternal uncle. Paternal uncle. Doesn't that mean that he was related then? No. So it's her father's... Her father's brother. But I mean, that is not married in. So it is her blood relative.

Oh. Yes, but it's not part of Medea's family. He's not part of Medea's family, but it is Bow Wow's grandfather. Right? No, Bow Wow's uncle. Uncle. Bow Wow's uncle is also his daddy.

Oh, so wait. Bow Wow's great uncle is his uncle who's his daddy. That's actually really horrible. Okay. Yeah. Just to be like skipped over and like can it just be someone who's not in the family for the sake of this insane dramatic storyline you're gonna just throw in the last 20 minutes like and also like he's he seems cool like i would have so many

questions about you know ill like god forgive me for being this ignorant about incest but i would have questions about illnesses diseases like that sort of thing trauma on my mom trauma on the abandonment issues his son like is now a product of that uncle when we found out is he in jail was he still living where is he did not have a single follow-up question. He just went like, wow, no one told me. My mom kept a secret. I'm like, you're missing the point. Who cares that your mom didn't tell you at this point?

Your mom was raped as a kid by someone everybody protected. But even protected or trusted. He's saying Loretta didn't tell him who he says is his mom or whatever so it's like so like you know what i mean like you are totally no one told you is not the problem the problem is your whole life is a lie like this is hard yeah um so medea urges kimberly to forgive her uncle for her own sake kimberly and Calvin reconcile. Oh, no, that made me want to punch everything. Yeah, I was like, I don't think she needs to forgive him. This is something she's been dealing with for so long.

I think she needs, like, full therapy. Also, when Byron breaks up with, what's her name? Renee? Renee. Raven? Renee? Yeah, Renee. I was like, okay, this has been a long time coming

because she, I i think has heard everything and it's like oh my god i just found out that my boyfriend is the product of rape by a paternal uncle yo you gotta do that drop i was like wait girl like there's so much more happening than to do a drop and then i was like what is the drop is it drugs is it money what is the drop it seemed like drugs to me that was very subtle at the beginning when she's like it's just one drop and i was like i okay what and then i felt like i had to hear it five more times i was like it's one drop one stupid okay so the film ends with medea mr brown and cora on maury which was a huge uplifting moment trying to find out if if Mr. Brown is in fact Cora's father. Medea insists that he is, but Maury reveals he is not.

Medea is shocked. She runs off stage sobbing hysterically. That was hilarious. Which is ridiculous. I gotta say, what a beautiful parody of a Maury show where the woman who's saying that the baby is his just repeats herself that's your baby that's your baby that's your baby and then when medea starts cursing and i don't think i've heard medea curse no not really starts cursing like the show it's so funny to me

that they bleep whole sentences there's a really oh my god she was just bleeping for the entire time and then there's a really funny blooper where she's like there's a security guard who comes out and she's like you're blocking the camera you're blocking the camera no you're actually blocking the camera we can't use this move or whatever it was great that is the best moment for me in that maury Povich parody was because it's always my favorite. The guy who desperately wants to be the father sees a picture of himself next to the baby. And the baby is so obviously not his. One time there was a white guy with a white woman and the baby was black.

And he was like, it looks like me she is jamaican in her family and i so i loved it i loved everything not that cora is a different color than uh doc or mr brown they're obviously both black but that complexion difference was doing a lot and they just look nothing alike like it's so funny for that moment. It's literally perfect. I really liked this movie. Well, and then he goes. I did, too.

Oh, my God, me, too. I think it was a blooper. I don't think it was in the thing. But then he goes, when he's, like, told that he's not the father, he's, like, he says he's, like, attracted to her and he wants to date her. And then she's, like, what? Ew. Which is great because they're married in real life. Because they're married.

It's so fun to shoot that. I loved it. I did remember when I started to watch it, I was like, look, I'm about to watch a Tyler Perry movie. And I spent my last 15 years on purpose avoiding it. And honestly, within the first three minutes minutes i got out loud guffaws yeah so i feel very bad for having judged tyler movies in advance without having seen them because they're not any worse than most bad comedy movies and totally i found them really relatable i found somewhat relatable very absurd but i had a good time yeah

i also had a good time this film did not receive any awards or nominations he often gets something um critically the film was not well received it currently has 32 fresh rating on rotten tomatoes well i mean that feels about right yeah i mean but i still laughed a lot i laughed so much however some critics noted that it was the best medea film to date a critic a critic from entertainment weekly wrote now that i've stated what feels like the inevitable complaint about tyler perry's tendency towards overly shrill broad bombt bombtastic. Let me say, while I was watching Medea's Big Happy Family, I couldn't deny that it plays. Audiences like the film for the most part.

And this is always what it is, giving it a 74% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. And the film's budget was $25 million. That's pretty high for it. That's pretty big for Tyler. That's to pay for what, Bow Wow and Taylor Taylor. And it ranked number two at the box office on its opening weekend. And by the

end of its run, it grossed $53 million domestically. Doubled the budget? That's not so bad. And he tends to do that. I feel like he makes the money back. So it's like, you know, you can't really say it was a failure. It's like, you're making money. Yeah, none of his movies are failures. And also

it's like very clear he's a playwright when it it's writing you know he writes monologues a lot um and i feel like you know if if and i'm glad for him that he doesn't seem to care what the establishment thinks about his work if he wanted to be doing more establishment worthy or respected stuff, all he would have to do is like chop some dialogue in half and then insert some platform. The fact that like, I don't know, that the death happened off camera for one of the characters was disappointing to me, though. But like, other than that, I mean, I thought it was I thought it was great. I had a good time. I expected to come on here and be like guys this sucked yeah yeah i mean going into this i was like we're gonna have fun i honestly didn't

realize how much fun i would have same yeah same and i thought i would get sick of it eventually like no i want more i want more too i figured by like eight and i'd be because i feel like by eight and when we're doing star wars or lord of the rings we're like oh my god it starts to feel like crazy this is very fun and they're each so different and like every week i feel like we watch something that's it's like it has a lot of the same components but there's a totally different energy to it and we have the oval coming up next oh which is that one that we saw online this clip was so nasty right i don't know if you've seen it but it's this kid like jerking off to this woman very calmly telling him not to do it

and then he throws his cum at her it's not funny but it's so wild sick and it's a tv show very silence of the lambs what are we doing it's honestly so messed up i'm so curious we're gonna watch the pilot of that show. So I'm like, something crazy is going to happen in that pilot, of course. Yeah, I'm really excited. I just, I love Tyler Perry's brain. Tyler Perry represents

a true step toward equality, which is that if we can celebrate open Black mediocrity, we're in a place that we've never been before. And I love it. But is it mediocrity? Because I in a place that we've never been before. And I love it. But is it mediocrity? It's even not. Because I am thoroughly entertained by, like, I don't look at my phone.

And when I miss something, I rewind. Not to talk about it on the podcast, but because I've missed chunks of Star Wars. Oh, yeah. And you don't miss, and I'm like, whatever. Well, I mean, I recognize what you're saying, and I agree, but I would like for it to sound like he cares sometimes. So like leaving out the fact that that girl had been raped by an uncle for 40 minutes, a hundred minutes, almost. It felt, I was like. But that's a child's thing.

That's his thing, though. So in Daddy's Girls, Daddy's Little Girls, Idris Elba's character had been accused of rape, and you don't hear about it until an hour into the movie. And you're like, wait, what? You know this character, and you find out that he was accused of rape and went to jail, I think. Yes. And then you find out it was all a lie later that the person falsely accused him.

So you're like, I just went on basically the roller coaster of someone in his life at this point that I thought it was real. I don't like him anymore. Now it's not real. So I have to reconcile with that. Like he, he does that though.

And I do think it's like, I think he, Oh my God, this is a morality thing. So it's like, we were judging Kimberly before we knew what Kimberly was going through. So it's like when someone is hateful and mean, maybe you have to dig a little further. I figured it out.

This is actually really interesting. Okay, go ahead, Ray. I agree that that's so, but that's not fair because it feels like if that's the lesson we are meant to learn, it shouldn't be me experiencing that. It should be the characters in the movie experiencing that. That's such a good point. For me, I shouldn't have to. The only thing I had to go on was this beautiful, rich sister in this family was a cunt to everybody for no reason. And then, boom, here's a reason.

And then we see the family not respect this traumatic thing for her. And so it's like, there wasn't a thing that I learned about myself through watching this. I learned that the writer of this movie has no problem dumping on this character and then revealing her most intimate secret in public and that the rest of them seem to continue to punish her for it like no i think that's such a good point because i do think when we've talked about these movies

with the sort of morality play like you know way of looking at it like okay so we hate this guy but then by the end we realize that he's good in these ways or whatever you know he of looking at it like okay so we hate this guy but then by the end we realize that he's good in these ways or whatever you know he's not just evil then he suffers and he you're right though that the characters in the movie never have the same realization that i'm having as the viewer and that is a necessary part of the storytelling to say like, and then they respected her or they like, then they listened to her. I forgive you, sister, mom. I didn't know the mom part was there. Let's work through it. And the part when Loretta dies and then, um, I can't remember the character's name comes, she's late or whatever. And she's just like, I'm so sorry. And we don't even like,

you just see the back of Loretta's head. And then it's just like, that's it. That's all she gets to do is say, I'm sorry to a dead person. It's like, it's not fair, but it was funny. The movie was funny. That's the thing. No,

no, we can complain. We have like all these complaints, but we're like, I still liked it. You know, I don't know. I,

and I still thought it was really interesting. Like I was never bored. I wanted to see what happened next. So, you know, I also thought Loretta Devine's performance I thought was like quietly powerful. I agree.

I agree. I like her. Yeah. She, she, she sure played tired. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I was like, I mean, it was like quiet. Her eyes were fully closed. She's not all right. She was, she was just tired. She was right. She was just tired.

She was so tired that she couldn't make a phone call. I need you to call my children. You want to watch all my children? That got me. That was a good impression. That was another thing. Thank you. I love Loretta DeVine.

I don't know if I like this or if I don't like this, but then by the end, I think I liked it. Everybody was stupid in the end, I think I liked it. Everybody was stupid in the movie, right? There was so many mishearing and pun jokes. And it wasn't just the Mr. Brown character. A bunch of people did it. And I was like,

oh, everyone's stupid except Madea in this universe. I got it. Well, no. Madea does call DNA Dana. Yeah, that's true too you gotta find the dana this is kind of the balance that i find for myself at least with accepting the misogyny is that i'm like the characters are really fun to play so i'm like even if you are there's that even the really mean woman who was raped it's like she gets to be like a total crazy bitch the entire movie which is pretty fun i don't know as an actor but

i was worried about the little kid who was getting like the really little kid who was getting yelled at and stuff and she's like play with it this way or whatever like she was like yelling at him and she's like the kid seemed to be taking it in and i was just concerned that he was witnessing a lot of yelling yeah yes when he takes the baby the baby looks like it's in peril. And I was like, Oh boy, this poor baby is going to have flashbacks to filming this movie and think it's his life.

Yeah. I do have to say, I one time had to make a baby cry and scream with a baby in a scene. And it felt so bad. I was like supposed to be yelling at my husband through a window with this crying baby. And the, and I,

and I'm like screaming and the baby wouldn't cry and then the director came over and went and it started crying and then we went and i was like this is this feels bad like i was really worried about this little baby um but it was interesting to experience okay so let's do some trivia here. So this is the 11th film in the Tyler Perry film franchise and the fifth in the Madea franchise. Okay. The film was based on the play of the same name, which debuted in 2010.

Okay. Perry began writing the play after the death of his mother in 2009. Surely is based on her. Whoa. Whoa. Okay. And that was one year later this movie came out. Cassie Davis is the only cast member from the stage play to reprise her role in the film as aunt bam huh so i guess

mr brown wasn't in the stage play oh he might have been too busy doing meet the browns yeah people working but also to to be fair the brown storyline felt a little extraneous in this film. So it makes sense that he wouldn't have been in the stage play. Yeah. The film's official marketing campaign included posters featuring Madea and spoofs of popular movies and TV shows such as Black Swan, The Godfather, True Grit, and Jersey Shore. That's hilarious. We'd scroll down. You have to see this.

Okay, wait. I'm going to share my screen. great the the god is the godfather one is great like i'm excited to watch medea be serious georgia shore georgia shore is glorious yes also true grits this is amazing he He is very funny. He's so funny. I like, it feels like I have to keep being surprised every time, but he is like, he's genuinely funny.

I got to figure out how to get in one of these movies. I was wondering a little bit through some of the scenes, if he had ever been a standup comic. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think his background is all plays and, and being in them but because he writes jokes in a that would if this that would be like this yeah and i'm like oh that's a very like

basic like standard uh stand-up you're right template fun. I wonder if someone, I mean, it's too late now, but if someone just like walked or someone like edited Tyler's movies, like they might be like masterpieces. Because he is smart. I think they would be. He has the right idea. He is good. He makes, he extends monologues to, or extends dialogue too long because it turns into monologues. If he truncated a lot of stuff and then filled in more backstory, Big Happy Family could have been this like really incredible film about, you know, kids having to come together. Well, it would have been soul food, actually.

But I will say, here's one joke that went on for too long. When was it? Is it Joe Joe the other character played by Tyler Perry yeah Uncle Joe when he's like help me help me and everyone's like finally like what the fuck are you talking about he's like the floorboards the joists are saying help me because y'all are too big I was like that was such a slow burn for such like a yeah we worked too hard for so little I don't love that character i kind of feel like i don't think i like him either i would love him to retire uncle joe because i just i love medea so

much that i'm like who is him no we don't need this i agree it sort of like takes away from medea a little bit i'm like we don't really need this other tyler perry in costume thing like it i really just like the media character the. The one. It felt a little the clumps. Yeah. And there's another movie where he does a bunch of them.

Yes. Oh, okay. In which movie is that? Diary of a Mad Black Woman where he's like five people at some point? Oh, no, thank you.

If you think so, yes. I don't think so. He plays like himself as like a handsome man. Then he's like Medea. He's Uncle Joe. He's somebody else. I don't know.

It's a lot. Yeah, I don't need it. I don't need it. I always like when he's like medea he's uncle joe he's somebody else i don't know it's a lot yeah i don't need it i don't need it i always like when he's himself personally i would love for him to just do like a definitive medea family tree like if you just that would be nice it would be very helpful for i mean this podcast and my life because i'm gonna continue the next medea movie that comes out in theaters i I'm going. Oh, my God. Me too. What's that show that they find your roots? Oh, my God. That would be so funny with Madea. Yes.

That would be so funny. It's the Harvard professor. God forgive me for forgetting his name now. Gates. If she went with Henry Louis Gates and found her, like, genealogy, and we've met all the medias in her family i would love and they go to like black and white photos of like him as other variations of media and it's in every great every grandmother or great-grandmother is just the media in a

different outfit from a different era it would be amazing that would be so funny i feel like he's probably gonna do that for i mean that's kind of like the mori thing like you could just put that into one of those movies and have it just be like a side thing yeah oh my god okay well tyler perry we're coming to the end of our show sadly i mean we could talk about it forever but ray do you have anything you want to plug obviously the cast which is great yes um and we have an episode with you miss lauren laugh it's very fun um which is gonna be fun because she talks her expertise and uh we learn a lot and it gets really intense it does but not intense we fought you know i intense, and she went with me. Oh, okay.

I love it. But so we have a podcast called The Cast wherein we watch random clips of, you know, historic moments in reality TV, and we build the greatest cast of all time according to who we would like to invite onto our cast on that podcast. Based on that, I don't know English, whatever. But it's fun. And it's mostly just us really discussing our favorite reality TV moments from childhood that, you know, you look at very differently when you're 33. Like how when I thought Diddy was hilarious for making them get cheesecake when I was 13.

And then you're an adult. Now that I'm 33, no motherfucker, you walking in that cheesecake. That's sort of fun. And please, please, please watch a Black Lady Sketch Show on HBO Friday nights at 11 p.m. Also watch season one because I really like residuals. And season two, please enjoy yourself. We worked really, really hard

and it should be a blast. It's already so funny. I watched the first episode and it's great. The first season was so good. Oh my god, obviously, yeah. Fantastic. You were in it, Miss Nicole. I know. Watch my episode so I can get some residuals. Obviously.

And now comes the time that everyone looks forward to where i say it's time for our five hallelujahs um five star review segment and so this uh review comes from a fish 28 if nicole does not play medea in mabel series i will will riot. If this podcast has taught me anything, it's that Nicole was born to play Medea in the new Showtime series. Please direct me to the petition because I will be signing. If someone has a petition going, we will promote it. So please let us know.

Let us know if there's a petition. I want it. And then someone, Vivian P. Chen says 20 episodes, please. I've been a listener since season one. And this third season has gone above and beyond the genuine delight that

Lauren and Nicole feel watching Tyler Perry movies makes last season's entertaining but clearly painful Lord of the Rings deep dive worth it I was unfamiliar with Tyler Perry's work before this podcast and Lauren and Nicole are the perfect guides for sharing the mad genius that is Tyler Perry we want more episodes don't stop at 10 thank you guys so please go out there and give us five stars and leave a review we will read more every week and we'll be back next week with the oval, I believe. And if you always want, if you are curious,

we're watching, we tweet about it. HeadGum tweets about what the next thing is going to be. If you want to watch with us. So be sure to check that out. And thanks so much, Ray, for being here.

That was awesome. Thank you so much. This was so much fun. Thank you. I had a blast. Honestly, this was great. Okay thank you i had a blast honestly this was great okay Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.