Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Ruthless Episode 1 - Watchalong
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This is a Headth episode of Newcomers.
In our third season, we're working our way through Tyler Perry's body of work for the very first time with the help of Perry Scholars, super fans, and sometimes people who've contributed.
This season is going to be 15 episodes, so there's literally no way we can get to everything.
I honestly think we would have to do this show for years for it to cover all of tyler perry's work um we're gonna do
a watch along today which i'm very excited about it's tyler perry's ruthless which came out in 2020
and we'll be watching season one episode one titled the pilot and you can sync to watch the
episode with us or just listen to get our moment by moment thoughts and we'll be revisiting more
movies and shows in the weeks to come.
We're already getting sad that this season is coming to a close.
It's too fun.
It's going too fast because we're actually enjoying ourselves.
I mean, I don't know what's going to happen.
So anyway, if you want to watch this,
Ruthless is available with subscriptions on Philo, BET+,
which you can get through Amazon and YouTube TV or on Amazon itself.
I mean, this is, okay okay so before we start this episode what do we know about ruthless because like we we know that
that character ruth is in the oval yes and she's like in a cult and there's this creepy cult members
like come to steal that little girl also i'm eight episodes in Oval, and we still haven't found the girl. The little girl is just gone.
We don't know.
So also, so Monique told us that Ruth's identical twin sister is the mistress of the president.
So I've seen that.
They fuck on the Oval Office desk.
It's wild.
Oh, my God.
It's honestly great.
And I'm, like, scared to watch Ruthless because I'm like, oh, my God, I'm and i'm like scared to watch ruthless because i'm like oh my god i'm
gonna have another thing to watch and this one and ruthless is a spin-off of the oval which makes
less sense because we were like so confused about ruth as a character and then we were like oh she's
from a different show and it's like no they made a show about her from this yeah it was like people didn't understand
the whole cult thing and then tyler perry was like oh i'll just explain it in 13 days i'll
create a season that's one of our trivia one of the trivia one of the trivia facts is the first
season of this show was shot in 13 days first season whole season. Like oftentimes a single camera pilot could take that long.
Like it's not an obscene amount of time to shoot one episode.
Yeah, because these are hour longs.
So yeah, that would be the one episode of an hour long drama.
He did a whole season in that amount of time.
I mean, I wonder if we're going to be able to tell.
That's what I'm excited about the oval
premiered in late october 2019 and ruthless premiered in march 2020 and tyler perry was
able to create the spin-off series for ruth in a five-month span i mean this is it's unheard of
insane also let me tell you in 13, they shot 24 episodes of television.
What?
It's like a soap opera.
Yes.
I mean, that's more than an episode a day.
Even a soap opera, I feel like they do one a day.
And they go really fast.
Like, they don't take it over.
They don't do a lot of takes.
We finished episode one.
They probably block shoot it, which is, if you don't know what block shooting is, it's like you take scenes in the same place of a different episode.
So you can be shooting two or three episodes simultaneously.
So if like you're in a church in a bunch of scenes and, you know, throughout the season, you shoot all the church scenes one day.
But for an actor, how fucking hard.
It sucks.
It sucks.
but for an actor how fucking hard it sucks it sucks and we i was recently doing that on good girls because uh with covid and all these different things there were a bunch of reasons
why we had to do block shooting and it just gets really confusing because you're like wait where am
i and who am i where am i going what's my emotion what has already happened by now you have to like
really talk it out which i kind of doubt is happening here no like i don't think there's much explanation
they're just just say your lines let's go say your lines we have to do this we have to fucking go
i am absolutely floored they did 24 episodes in 13 days literally more than two episodes a day
in some cases and i i'm like do they work 24 hours a day?
Right.
It feels honestly like they would do Saturdays and Sundays and they would never stop.
And the hours would be maddening.
I can't believe the second season premiered March 11th, 2021.
Tyler Perry.
Honestly, you can knock him and be like, aren't good but he produces the stuff do you
know what i mean it's like well the idea of having a spinoff like i'm trying to think of like other
shows that have had a spinoff like like for example there's like big bang theory and young
sheldon but like the amount of time that had to pass years prove that then they could do a spinoff
and then you know and then they made it took a long time to go through they still had to pass years prove that then they could do a spinoff and then you know and then they made it
took a long time to go through they still had to do a pilot and whatever there's none of that here
it's like it just is straight to series whatever he's doing and he just fucking bangs it out i mean
i'm the fact that he did he did a whole second season during covid is fucking bananas and
meanwhile the show is just,
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
I think we should just jump into it.
Okay,
let's do it.
Okay.
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Are you ready, Lauren?
I'm ready.
Okay, so we're doing it.
We're watching Ruthless.
I'm very excited.
If you want to sync with us, I'm going to count us in.
Three, two, one, play.
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Ooh, sexual situations and violence.
I'm already excited.
And foul language.
I mean, that's Tyler Perry.
That's the pilot.
Already I'm into it I'm already confused
Oh this is
So this is
This is where she went
This is from the oval
Okay
This is where
Okay
So we're gonna get to see
Where she went
So maybe that was
Kind of his idea
He's like
We won't see her
For eight episodes
But we'll cover that
On Ruthless
What did you say?
I'm going the speed limit.
I don't think that she is, sir.
You will learn.
Die, come fit, slow down.
Oh.
Now she's going so slow.
It takes him telling you that.
No.
No, sir, I'm sorry.
I really think you've begun to overstep yourself.
I'm sorry.
Andrew, sir, you have to do something with this.
Yes, sir.
Oh, no.
You definitely do.
There's no need to punish me, sir.
I'll be better.
It's, it's, oh my God.
It's hard to watch when you kind of
know how tv works because it's like this scene alone should take a couple hours yes they are
in the car and there's like all these different shots truly set two cameras and that was it
you will never go back you have a new daddy now his name is the new daddy I want my daddy!
Oh my god. hmm i want you to hear me dry your eyes where are we going shut her up to heaven
oh my god i don't want to go to heaven i want to go back home you have a new home i don't want to go to heaven i want to go back home you shut up man with your ugly self okay honey oh
You'll love it.
You'll see.
Mommy, I want to go home. The video of the trees and stuff look like it's in slow motion.
It's a drawing.
It's a drawing.
They're not even trying to convince us.
Oh, what's the theme song?
Oh, it's good.
Oh, the sun go down i'm i'm learning nothing from this no but it feels like more time was spent on the theme
song than the show a hundred percent wait there was a lady's face in flames
on a stove and I really liked that.
Ruth!
Ruth!
Ruth! Tyler Perry's Ruth
Les!
Oh no.
How long is this scene?
We know he wants to shut her up.
It's the whole pilot.
To heaven.
Stop talking back.
I swear to God.
Yeah.
Mori on his side.
Stop talking back.
No, you said something.
What did you say?
I don't know.
Lie to me again.
The trees are going.
They're so funny.
Fast on his side and slow on hers.
I'm seeing specific trees.
Tell me what you said
I think you said she was scared that's what you said to me yes yes yeah that's what I thought No, she's driving! He hit... What?
What?
Nicole!
Nicole!
Nicole!
This is exactly...
What?
Motherfucking?
I can't believe it.
He punched her in the head.
In the head.
While she was driving.
The car crashed, and then we just cut to hardcore fucking. Hardcore fucking. He punched her in the head while she was driving.
The car crashed and then we just cut to hardcore fucking.
Hardcore fucking.
Yes, boss?
I need to see you.
Yes, sir.
Honestly, that's the most realistic sex I've seen on television. That was really good, honestly.
And I will say this was the most Tyler Perry moment.
Because I was starting to get a little bored and then he punched her in the face and then they crashed.
I was like, all right.
Look at this full nudity.
Yes, sir.
Did he just say get dressed and open a door?
Uh-oh. Who are these people?
Who are they? But he's about to like suck her tits.
What?
What the hell? Uh oh, who are these people? Who are they? But he's about to like suck her titty. What? Honey.
What the hell? Does he know we're having sex?
He's about to suck her titty.
Are they watching us like that?
Will you stop it?
How does he know you're not dressed?
It's late. He's probably just talking about the fact that I was sleeping.
No.
No, no, no. He knows.
Who knows?
It's probably an assignment. Well, no, no. He knows. Who knows? It's probably an assignment.
Well, better be local.
How are they watching, though?
Sweetheart.
Sweetheart.
Okay.
God, I hate this.
Wow, she's leaving the titties out.
Wow, she's really just standing there with her boobs out.
Honestly, if I had titties like that, I would leave them out for all the time.
They're so beautiful.
Might as well.
Oh, boy.
I was this close.
Wow, so that's what we're doing now.
Just get the damn door.
Just get the damn door.
Lynn, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'll be right back.
Tyler Perry writes a lot of scenes where there's a lot of dialogue, but nothing is said.
Exactly.
I'm going like, well, they just said the same thing like eight times.
Like, I feel like nothing happened.
Get the door.
How does he know?
I don't know.
And this is the same house?
Why is he so aware of him being naked?
Stop.
Wait, he's got other people.
Whoa.
Was he wearing her underwear what the fuck
sorry that how does a woman's underwear end up on your ankle i don't know i truly okay so they
come off and that was how that man was cleaning he understood that he was naked that was so weird
like ladies underwear stuck to his ankle like a skip it.
Like a skip it.
Do you remember Andrew Whiteside?
Maybe he took them off.
No.
Here's his picture.
Maybe in bed his foot shoved through the hole of them while they were off.
Maybe.
I don't know.
It's a stretch.
We still don't know who he is.
We have no clue what's going on.
I'm like, who's that?
Who's that?
Who's she?
Maybe he's like an agent?
Tell me what's going on.
Yeah.
Okay. So he's going on. Everything was fine.
And he stopped calling.
Okay.
How long ago did he stop calling? So he's a cop.
Three weeks.
Is he in trouble?
Is he alive?
Is that what you mean?
What was that?
Three.
We don't know.
Three months, three weeks.
So why did he stop checking in?
We sent him undercover to be part of this cult.
They call themselves the rockadooshies
so he's rockadooshies the rockadooshies is such a funny name
what's the cult's name uh rockadooshies
okay they're anti-government anti-white man anti-laws and so on what makes this group so
dangerous as we think that they're drug trafficking and so on anti-government anti-white man and other
things okay i follow this is according to an informant who's also got missing a race war
so they're deadly yeah i'm gonna try to avoid a few things
including a jim jones also that one being so mad that like they couldn't finish having sex
and this is his job it's like there seems to be some stakes to this uh-huh where you go like okay
i mean i guess it would get annoying but it's the one they call the highest i'm not a man but like
it would get annoying but it's the one they call the highest i'm not a man but like don't hard on stay hard for a minute like is he hard right now i actually thought that's what the guy was saying
when he said like look down like i think it was about the other one that he's gonna say you have
a boner that'd be really funny highest in prison i wouldn't put it past tyler berry at this point
i mean a person throws come at someone later in the oval and i can't wait to get to it
I mean, a person throws cum at someone later in the Oval,
and I can't wait to get to it.
I have to watch all of that show.
Rockwell, Virginia.
A few hours from here.
You know what's great?
Normally when we did a watch-along for Star Wars,
and we were like, I don't get what's happening.
Everyone's like, because you're talking over the whole thing.
With this, we were like, I don't get what's happening.
It wouldn't matter if I was talking or not.
I honestly don't think I can follow what's happening yet.
Is it okay?
Also, now her hair is perfect.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it looks amazing.
I've arranged for you to get a job as a deputy, local police department.
You're going to be undercover.
They can't know you're FBI.
Okay.
Some of the officers and...
Why is he allowed to say this in front of the woman?
Doesn't this seem like...
Yeah, it seems like a breach of...
Yeah.
She's just like getting orange juice.
Where is this?
Baby.
Maybe she's a cop too.
Am I supposed to be a little wife and not ask anything?
Of course not.
Okay, so then where is it?
Virginia.
We knew this would be an issue.
Okay, there's a school there that needs a teacher.
We will need to talk about it.
I understand.
So she gets to go undercover too?
A school teacher?
Or like they just set her up with a job.
Oh, I see.
I would send him my best guy.
I know. You, I see. I would send him my best guy. I know.
You are the best.
What's the background?
This is so boring.
Move on.
Yeah, just say yes.
We know you're going to say yes.
Yeah.
Honestly, it'd be very funny if the whole pilot was this man just interrupting sex to be like, we need you to go to Virginia.
He's like, I get it.
Okay, bye.
Yeah, see you later.
Now can we go back to fucking?
I mean, they might as well.
Oh my God, I forgot.
Oh yeah, I forgot that this car crashed.
My head hurts. My head hurts.
My head hurts.
Yeah, you crashed into me.
Is she going to be in trouble for that?
I mean, he should be in trouble.
He hit her in the fucking head.
Speak to a man that way.
Yes, sir.
No, I think you're just trouble.
No, I'm not.
I think you need time in the cooler.
Oh, no.
In the cooler?
With us worrying that Tyler Perry hates women.
Andrew.
A man is not fit to walk in his shadow.
Now we need another call.
Andrew.
Andrew.
You will be.
You will be. You will be.
How are they going to get home?
Elias is going to be so upset.
They need another car.
I'm sorry.
Go get another car.
Yes, Tycon.
Go.
But you know what?
You know what?
I feel like this is exposing.
You must stop.
Like the fact that.
The fact that these scenes are so like roundabout,
like they talk so much and don't say anything.
It's partly because it's not planned well.
It's like they're shooting too fast.
Like if you figured out like you could trim these so much and then do them better.
Yes.
No. She stays. trim these so much and then do them better. Yes.
No, she stays.
I will teach her how to stop.
So
the highest will be very pleased if she is taught.
What is she is taught.
Take her.
Take her.
Also, where is she going to get another car from?
That's what I'm saying.
They're in the forest.
She just ran off.
Honey.
Look, I don't want to talk about this.
I think he's holding scripts.
So we have to up and move every time he says to?
Baby.
No.
I'm not doing it.
Lynn, I know this is hard.
Do you? You know, I gave up my career for you. I know. Hmm. Making our lives a priority. Is that fair? I have a degree in psychology and a minor in education.
Do you think I did all that work just to be a little side wife?
No, no.
To be a little woman in the shadow?
Baby.
I don't want to fight about this.
Okay.
Well, I will tell him that he'll have to find someone else then.
Good.
Okay.
Call him now.
Okay.
What?
Will you just look at the file first?
No, you see, you always try to guilt trip me.
Look at the file.. No, you see, you always trying to guilt trip me.
Please, please.
Look at the file.
Child trafficking in trucks.
We have an agent on the inside, but he might be compromised. Look at all those kids.
I definitely don't think this is like protocol.
No, he's telling her everything.
He's from FBI.
He's in the FBI.
He's telling his wife every single thing that's happening.
You're not going to tell me you don't care about what happens to these children. What I am saying is that I'm not saying anything
other than
I'm not going.
Okay, we're being a bit difficult.
Do they not have a comforter?
Who sleeps with just a sheet?
You are okay.
There's no time to pull it up.
They have to shoot two more episodes today
The set dresser was like we have a comforter
And they're like we've already shot two scenes
I know
Mom please take me back to grandma
That is not happening sweetheart
Please
Callie stop it
I want to go home
Look at me
You cannot go home
You have a new home, okay?
But you have to stop hurrying.
She saw what he did to me.
You should have obeyed.
She can hear him.
I thought these things were maroon, not purple.
Yeah, they were.
Wait.
I thought they were two.
Although maybe the one she showed up in was almost black like this.
Maybe.
Where are they walking to?
They're going to have to walk for hours to get to a car.
They're going to go to CarMax and buy a new car.
Rocket douchey. What? Rocket douchey. My daughter. She should be raised in the Rakadushi way.
Rakadushi.
What?
Rakadushi.
Tally, you and I have been in the Rakadushi for three years.
What is wrong?
Tell me.
Our loyalty is to the heart. Three.
He loves three?
Who, Tyler Perry?
Yes.
Yeah.
So they've been in the Rakadushi for three years. And then the undercover agent've been in the Rakijushi for three years,
and then the undercover agent has been in the Rakijushi for three years,
and they lost contact three weeks ago.
You don't approve, brother?
Sir, I don't understand.
The way that I handled Sister Tally, she needed to be corrected.
Yes.
I know that.
What, do you know that?
Yes, Nikikon.
I do.
It's getting about time for something unexpected to happen.
Yes, I can't wait.
I have some wonderful report.
And I'm beyond honored that he chose me to be with you.
Has he cleansed you yet?
No, sir.
He has not. Well, that No, sir. Yes, not.
That day is coming.
Oh, I wonder if that's the undercover agent.
Oh, right.
Because he's like a little like,
he's questioning a little bit.
What exactly is it that it does to cleanse?
Impatience is never a virtue. What exactly is it that it does to cleanse?
That's not the line.
And they didn't go back to reshoot it.
That's how I feel about every line.
It feels like every line is like loosely what was supposed to be said.
And they just let them kind of like find it for like five minutes you will be if i tell him you did well tonight
was there anything that i can be doing better improving her lets you know he sees all and sees
you yes sir he does he really has his hands on you you've only been here what three months yes sir you moved up the ranks quickly
three months that's not a good thing it isn't sir no that's what i did so you must watch your back
yes and trust no one yes brother daika especially the women so this scene is going on forever What?
So wait. This scene is going on forever.
It truly is.
Wait, this is wild.
So he said, I moved up the ranks fast.
That's bad.
Okay.
Oh, for men.
We all do.
But the cleanse will help you with that.
No sex in the rocadushi?
I guess not.
Do not violate any of the pure.
That surprises me.
You're the pure.
Who are the pure?
So basically he said, if you have sex, make sure it's not with the pure one. Yeah.
Invites?
I mean, I get that.
Okay. So, yeah, they're're literally gonna steal a car oh stay here
yeah but how do they know who's pure and who's not i'm still stuck on this sex thing me too
this poor little girl.
The way she's creeping!
Of course, there's like keys in it.
Yeah, I mean, this is Charlie Perry land.
People park their cars, leave the keys inside.
Or she knows how to jump it or something.
Yeah, she's wiring.
Wiring the... This man! jump it or something yeah she's wiring wiring this man he was running so slow but he got in
lauren he was running so slow oh no she bit him oh fuck, no. Dear God, not worth it.
That man.
Did she shoot him?
He's flat on his back.
Call the sheriff.
Are you all right?
Are you all right?
Oh, my God.
She also ran really funny.
That was crazy.
Yeah, he probably should have been driving, you know, in the first place.
Yeah.
What happened?
Daikon asked you a question. Did she?
We ran into some trouble.
She didn't even have time to answer.
I can see that.
What kind of trouble?
We got shot at as we were leaving.
Did they see you?
Why is he acting like it's a surprise that something went down?
They just stole a truck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was in a fight.
Here's what I don't get.
Why does she want to be in this cult?
I don't know.
She's like, we we've been in for three
or she's the one who was saying this is bad i guess the other one was saying what were you doing
i was waiting by the tree and the girl she was with me i thought she was going to help you
she will come up She's a child.
What's she going to do? She will.
You both will.
God, I would be terrified being in this car.
I just not going to be happy.
Yeah, this is not a cult for me.
Like, this man is, he's too scary.
No, it's so abusive.
He gets mad at you for asking too many questions, and then he asks a thousand questions.
Yeah, really.
Oh. asking too many questions and then he asks a thousand questions. Yeah, really. Oh, I mean, the Colts kind of, it's a nice little campground.
It's like a bar in Austin.
Yeah, it's cute.
It's like South by Southwest vibes.
I'm here for it.
I can't believe Tyler Perry had one scene in the oval and said, I'm going to create a whole spinoff.
I mean, so do you see a lot of Ruth in the oval?
No.
No, because then when she leaves,
she takes the girl and then she doesn't come back.
You see more of Ruth's twin.
But that's so insane.
To think that there's enough there to just go, okay, a whole season about this.
The confidence.
I'm sick of this girl being...
I love this little girl.
Mom!
I know, I don't like how they keep pulling her away from everyone.
She will be fine.
She just needs to learn our ways.
Wait a minute.
These cloaks, I feel like were straight up purple in the other scene,
and now they're maroon.
What are your trailers?
Maybe it was the lighting?
No, but the girl's shirt was maroon, and they trailers maybe it was the lighting but the no but the girl's
shirt was maroon
and they had purple
next to it
yes
this is awful
mm-hmm
are you okay
yes
um
no I got punched
in the head
and I crashed a car
okay it was 20 minutes ago Yes. No, I got punched in the head and then I crashed a car.
Okay.
It was 20 minutes ago.
You didn't think that was wrong?
The way you hit me?
Could have killed your daughter.
Tally, you know where we came from.
I know.
How he found us.
We were so lost. Drugs and prostitution. Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah, because she was a crackhead.
I need this backstory.
But you have to be totally brainwashed and then suddenly be like,
I like this here
yeah i don't understand cults i feel like i'd be like wait no this seems weird no thank you
i know did you watch that documentary um why can't i think of what it was called with that
guy who keith ranieri oh nixxiom no this is a beautiful thing it was of what it was called with that guy who Keith Ranieri. Oh, Nixxiom? No. This is a beautiful thing.
It was interesting, but it was
it's like how, you have to be in such
a specific place in your life
to be like pulled into
this.
I mean, I say I don't think
I'd be pulled into a cult, but I did do improv
for a very long time.
I will, yeah.
It's not that far.
Yes, and...
There's a lifestyle
that goes with that.
Yeah.
It's weird to take a year off
from that and then be like,
oh, yeah, that was like
every night of my life
for a long time.
Look at her running.
This poor little girl
just slowed down for her.
She's like literally at a jaunt.
This would be the scariest place to be taken to.
This looks awful.
Uh oh.
What are you doing?
Is she standing in there?
Needing the highest?
I hate this.
This poor little girl.
Well, she's not locked in.
No, she definitely is not
She can open that door right up
What is this weird jail
Oh other kids
Oh no
Oh god I'm depressed
I mean it's less scary to see other kids.
Mm-hmm.
You're like, I don't know this fucking kid.
She's hugging me and shit.
Get in there.
Silent.
And then she just left her.
That sucks.
And she went right to sleep.
I would cry a little bit.
Yeah, I would definitely cry.
Oh, now they have a...
Now I was going to say, there's a quilt.
Maybe they knocked it off during sex and then they couldn't find it.
And she was like, who cares?
I'm mad at you.
I'll sleep under the sheet.
I want more sex.
Me too.
It was really well produced.
It was nice.
You're the head of a criminal organization.
Women are easier to get into the column as the leader has many wives.
The majority of the children here were born here.
Others are here with the custody of their parents. Try to get as much as I can. Oh, I was right.
Yep.
She's pretending she didn't just watch all that.
But like, why?
Yeah, he already told her everything.
By the way, I think only
she has been named.
That's the interesting thing that Tyler Perry
does. He doesn't... We don't ever hear
people's names.
No.
Wait, she just said she wants to
join the cult?
And wait, she used to be a Marine?
And she was a police officer.
And she was a psychology...
She has a degree in psychology.
She's a double major.
And she's a teacher, but now she wants to go undercover.
What?
Why not?
Undercover is dangerous.
I can't let you do that.
For you too.
I know that.
Why not?
They're really hitting this.
Jeez.
I noticed that.
He keeps flexing his pecs.
Yeah, he does.
He wants us to know that they're beautiful.
I'm like, I see.
And I know. These kids.
Okay, they need help.
Lynn?
They need someone to break them out.
Lynn, no.
Lynn, don't you dare.
Then I'm not going.
Honey.
I'm going for a run.
Oh my God.
Go or don't go.
Let me join the cult or I'm not going.
Well, and also, why does she have to go like couldn't she stay while he does a mission or something i mean i think so
what's your decision you sure i'm your only guy yes yes so man what kind of phone is that
she wants to be in what she wants to go undercover
what she was a really good cop well she wasn't really good i will not hear of it so don't tell
me you can't do it and she doesn't want to move i understand that but you were marine why are you
being controlled by her when you're in the FBI and she's not?
There's a clear line.
I wonder if those are real tattoos or if they're symbolic of some real show.
At least I think they're real because they look a little raised. Yeah. At least I think they're real because they look a little raised.
Yeah.
And I feel like that's maybe specific to black people.
I have a couple tattoos that are raised.
Yeah. Hmm.
Oh boy, these guns.
What is this shithole?
What? Is this shithole? What?
Is this the laundry room?
He's like, are you pure or not?
I'm trying to figure out who I can fuck.
I'm trying to fuck.
Are you pure?
Are you pure?
She has like an old timey wash face in like scrub thing.
I see everything. At what point?
Why would you not believe that he sees everything?
There's probably just cameras everywhere.
It's not like he's a god.
I want to meet the, what do they call him?
The one? The one?
The highest?
The Kish or something?
It was something...
The Kishi?
The Kishi?
Oh, no.
He's in love with her.
Oh, no.
It's not a good time.
But he was wrong.
I was wrong.
I needed to be punished. Are you wavering but you already
said you didn't like that oh boy and say it
tell you were wrong that you needed to be punished
oh wow put people out of here for less. I know.
And if I didn't have you,
I don't know what I'd do. What do you mean put them out?
Be put out.
Do you really?
What does be put out mean?
I mean like,
I thought that's what she was saying.
Like they kick people out
or like murder.
Or maybe they get killed.
We have to stay away from each other.
You should plead your case to the highest.
He's a compassionate man
why do you think he can't hear this
he just leaves i'm trying to plot something now go
howie i've been watching you i just see it in your eyes that you are growing very tired of this place.
That's not true.
Look at me.
Listen.
Do not tell anybody about the way you truly feel, okay?
No one.
Not even Ruth.
You can't trust anybody, okay?
You remember that.
I will.
But Andrew.
What?
Tell me.
What? I? What?
What? Yeah, well, they're gonna know soon. I'm gonna get something, okay?
Yeah, you can't really hide a pregnancy.
So he already did fuck people.
He did fuck her.
You're right.
How's he gonna get the morning after pill?
Is he gonna like, I've got to run to CVS.
About our punishment.
Thank you, but that's not your duty. I've got to run to CVS.
He's so clearly undercover.
He's like normal how he talks.
Yeah, he's very normal.
He's like, I was just talking to her.
I can't believe.
Wait, what did he just? He just just he just he just like bowed his he like bowed his head and spun around
oh we get to meet the highest one oh good what if it's tyler perry i hope so i truly hope it's
medea good afternoon oh my god that would be so good wait she's just gonna walk up to the cult and join it
yes hi may i help you uh may i speak to someone about what my husband he's beating me and i i need to leave him so why did you come here
i was told you helped many in my situation may i just come yes you must meet the highest
thank you so much the idea that a person could come up there and say, I'm being beaten.
And then they go, okay, meet the highest.
And you're just like, okay, that's got to be better than whatever I'm going.
It's like, no.
But also like, how did she know to come to the cult grounds?
Right.
How have you heard of this?
Wow.
This is stunning.
Yeah, they are.
They're marching.
No, I don't.
So how did you hear about us?
Also, the gate doesn't close all the way.
It seems like it should have a lock on it.
Something.
In the store?
Mm-hmm, yeah.
What store?
Grocery store in town.
Yeah, your story's falling apart.
Mm-hmm.
What day was it?
I'm not sure.
And what were they wearing?
Purple robes.
And what day did you say that it was again?
I don't remember.
So how did you know where we were?
Did they give you an address?
No.
So how did you know how to find us?
How did you know how to find us? How did you know how to find?
I mean, these are good questions.
Yes.
What were they driving?
Car.
This is bad.
I would want to leave now.
So you're telling me you were following them and they didn't know that they were being followed?
Well, they drove off the side of
this road and i just took a chance at this may be the place did i do something wrong no yeah you
came to a cult yeah like unannounced but you said that you wanted to meet with a bad story
With a bad story.
Yes.
No.
You said I should meet the highest.
Yeah, that was your idea.
Okay.
Oh my God, I hope it's Medea!
If it was, that would be the best reveal,
but there's no way.
No. I'm going to be so mad if it ends before we meet the highest.
I know, I know. Because I don't have an ends before we meet the highest. I know.
I know.
Because I don't have an Emmy to give to this show.
No.
This show's not doing it for me.
What did I do wrong?
You came here.
Is he the highest?
Sorry, shall I leave?
So?
Look, I don't know what you mean, but I felt led here.
Okay, she's getting herself into a pickle.
In case I was followed.
Are you always this cautious?
Yes.
Okay.
And apparently so are you.
Is he going to have sex with her?
Oh no.
How so?
You could always do this before someone dies. How so? How so?
You can never be too careful.
No, you can't.
Wait, are they in a potato room?
Are they on the same side?
No.
Like he's undercover, right?
Yes.
So it's like...
From where?
Look, if this is a problem,
I could just come back another day, so...
Oh, no.
He's like, more potatoes.
Oh, no.
Uh-oh.
This is why you don't just walk into a cult.
Yeah.
Why are you touching me?
I think you're thirsty.
What are you doing?
Is this yours?
You went through my car?
Is this your stuff?
What is that, makeup?
I just...
Listen to me.
Are you sure you're not thirsty?
Drink this.
No.
Yeah, drink it.
No.
Let me go.
Why do I feel like she's going to laugh?
I mean...
Put your head back.
No! No! No! No! No! Why do I feel like she's gonna laugh? I mean... Okay, she's like drowned.
That's it?
Oh my god.
I mean...
How wild.
Oh wow. I mean, Tylerry does do a very good job of like hooking you in because i was
like maybe i will watch the second episode because i need to know how that turned out with forcing
water down her throat and then the thumbnail was of a man with like long hair who looked insane i mean that one okay the oval is much more exciting like so much more happened in the
oval than in this one um but yeah i mean i am curious like what's gonna happen i'm confused
about why the guy who's undercover is now so entrenched in it that he's like against anyone
who comes you know what i mean like why is he
trying to do whatever they do but i guess he's gotta like keep up with appearances
i right because i don't know it seems like the the cult people are always hiding behind a door
like there's always like 20 more about to come out and get you yes just like ready to do things
steal a kid give you water I think you want water.
You want water.
Are you sure you don't want water?
That was truly wild.
Even the cup was weird when you think about it.
You have this weird blue plastic cup.
This is truly so, so wild.
Well, it was written by Tyler Perry, directed by Tyler Perry. Yes. I mean, I'm unable to move on from the fact
that they shot a whole season within two weeks.
In 13 fucking, I mean, it's insane.
It's completely insane.
Yeah.
Okay, I do need to watch The Oval, though.
I think that's my next binge.
I very much recommend it.
I thoroughly enjoy it.
So many more crazy things happened in The Oval.
I felt like this show, compared to all his other stuff that we've watched even,
like there just weren't enough like shocking twists.
It's more just like more of the same over and over again.
And so I don't, I'm not as intrigued.
I'm not as intrigued.
I think like what keeps me, yeah.
But I do want to know who the highest is.
I do too.
And apparently in the second episode,
we get to meet the highest.
So I might be, I might watch the second episode.
I could watch the second one.
I don't, the thing about it is,
it's like I do think it could be half the length because it feels like every scene they just keep repeating the same
thing over and over again yes oh wow okay so Deacon is gonna be he's on the oval season two
oh I'm now on IMG okay so I guess the oval and ruthless are gonna have like crossovers
oh my god Tyler why are you doing this to me it has to happen at some point because they have to I guess the oval and ruthless are going to have like crossovers. Oh my God. Tyler,
why are you doing this to me?
It has to happen at some point because they have to,
you can't,
you can't steal the child and then never revisit and just go,
Oh,
you have to watch the spinoff to see what happened to her.
Cause that would be insane there.
He has to bring that storyline back to the oval at some point,
but it's funny that you've already watched eight episodes and it doesn't
come back at all. No, not at all. We still truly don't know where she is well now i know where she is but
not on the oval i don't know but don't you think it'd be better if it was just the oval and then
you had like a cult scene every couple episodes like that would be so much better because you
really don't need so much of this i also cannot believe now i'm on the wikipedia tyler perry directed and wrote every
single episode but he must have some sort of writer's room i don't know if he does
i just i feel like he doesn't that's literally he never gives credit to somebody else. He sure doesn't. He sure does not.
Well, should we read
our five hallelujahs?
I do love when you say it.
Yes.
Five hallelujahs.
This one comes from
XOXO Gossip Girl 1.
The MCU,
I didn't know I needed.
Lauren and Nicole
have opened up
a whole new world
to the real MCU.
I've never watched
a Tyler Perry film, but this podcast has opened my eyes.
They also allowed me to be up to date on current Tyler Perry events and sound very informed
while watching the Oscars with my husband's grandparents.
Watching Star Wars and Lord of the Rings paid off by leading you to this season.
Thank you for your service.
And then we have another one from Here Queer and Tired.
Tyler Perry fanfic, please. please hi y'all i'm
loving this in every season of newcomers the fanfic episodes are my favorite so i hope you
plan to work on your on your perry phrasing i tweeted this at y'all but i want to give you a
title to inspire one of your fanfics multimedia multimedia thank you for the tds i mean i think
we talked about how we can't really do fan fiction because it is wild.
And you could just write anything.
Yeah, it's already there.
Like, it would just be like, I don't know, sex on a rocket or something fully bonkers.
But then, I mean, Chris Rock made a joke about Boo Medea.
And then Tyler Perry wrote a whole movie.
We write fan fiction.
Oh, my God.
If we write fan fiction, my god if we write fan
fiction it might just become a movie or a tv series off later or we or we get we get to direct
some saw movie just as a payment yeah oh my god yeah we get to star and uh direct a saw movie
it's so random it's so so random but i am excited to see it i think it's gonna be good
uh i'm excited to see it too um okay well ruthless honestly not as exciting as i wanted to be
i i am glad we watched it so we just finally can know but if you guys want to write a review for us
we will be picking more to read on the next episode and we'll be back
next week with another one of tyler perry's works so we'll see you then bye bye bye Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.